I’m so happy you do these. I do a lot of beta testing on classes I know but impossible for me to test all classes and a great gauge for when things go live
C'mon don't stoop as low as the Mages' propaganda machine of constantly pretending they're weak Warlock was indeed quite shit for DF release, however! Affliction was top3 dps in Nathria and best Ranged DPS in Uldir in BFA
Tell me your angle on this Is your plan to have 0 players talk about what's happening in the Beta because "it can/will change" ? Are we just gonna tune out until the expansion is released then?
@@Izenhart i'm joking-the first quote is this video. the second one is the usual goofy reply that these conversations aren't useful (they are useful). the third one is "no shit sherlock, i said they're just early impressions from the beginning" but my joke was perhaps too dadlike due to father's day
IMO remove malefic rapture and put the damage back into the dots. Also 3 dots will do just increase their damage rather than giving locks 5 dots to manage. Make shadowbolts actually fucking pump so when you get an instant proc it’s feels good rather than just insignificant damage. Also bring back fel lance instant cast to allow you to refresh the duration of UA and give some instant cast damage on the move.
I don't know, we know Blizzard has been a proud parent of their golden child, Mage, for years but I think Warlock might as well be an illegitimate child they still take care of...
Never forget Blizzard giving Destruction warlock a 5% aura buff the first week of season 3 of Shadowlands. But true, they have, at least, been a bit more vigilant about warlocks this expansion though, at least.
Doom is insane as well. You can use it to insta kill critters and summon doom guards. I'm mostly doing solo content and amount of doom guards I have following me is comical
That with the shadowbolt doing so much dmg could be the Tier- set 50% more shadowbolt dmg XD Warlock Demonology 11.0 Class Set 2pc - Your primary demon deals 5% increased damage, and your Shadow Bolt damage is increased by 50%.
I hope they adjust Soul harvester to make it more AOE viable for locks, the recent nerf to its damage has basically just made it redundant against Hellcaller. Nerfs are definitely coming, just hope they don't over do it
I guess since Hellcaller feels tailor made for Affli and Diabolist for Demo, SH is kind of in the middle of both But yeah too much shadowbolt/nightfall synergy which doesn't do too much in aoe
Shadowbolt hitting almost as hard as a Chaos Bolt is kind of dumb. Affliction has multiple issues with how they designed Hellcaller including, for some unknown reason, they made Wither the same base damage across Destro and Aff. That means it is based on Immolate’s base damage rather than Corruption’s base damage which is already much higher in damage than it should be. Then it gets amplified by their mastery. Currently Hellcaller Warlock is still bugged for Overfiend. For whatever reason they get free procs of Overfiend if they are Hellcaller Destro. Those free procs don’t take away from the stacks you already have so Hellcaller Destro procs Overfiend twice as much as they should. Blizzard knows about this and it will be fixed. Wither doesn’t actually deal a lot of damage by itself. Other than multidotting which is problematic for Aff, Wither isn’t that strong compared to the better Hero Talents.
Warlocks are farrrrrr from golden child lol. 😂 good try tho. And as a high rated pvp warlock..... we are blizzards melee punching bag tester. But good try.
Lock can be good as blizzard wants (it’s one of their love childs) but for the sake of everyone’s good time do not make demo the best spec. I legit have more respect for tanks in pvp than a spec based around standing in one spot, do nothing, and letting NPCs carry you offensively
He's trying to give people informative info while showing DMG numbers on a decade old training dummy... Not like there's any training dummies in valdrakken🙄🙄🙄 (there is)
@@Izenhart we all know shaman dps will be dead in m+, in raids enh will have 1 spot for windfury regardless of its dps prolly. ele is hands down the worst ranged dps spec now not only from numbers and gameloop wise. hopium!
@@Vytautas-y7j unfortunate because it's my favourite spec. If they had more survivability I'd still be playing them. Unfortunately the fact their damage is non-existent gives me a great excuse to play another class
Mediocrity? Lock has been bis in full aoe with destro and in st with demo all exp lol, in fact lock has had at least 1 top performing spec at least every exp and the utility/survivability is crazy, you'll never have a problem getting in pugs...
@@dariominiello9934 Since they gutted the Demo ST build at the start of S3 there wasn't a single fight where Warlock was a top performer in ST situations.
@@dariominiello9934I think you’re still living in Shadowlands. Aside from season 2, warlock has been mediocre in mythic raid. Check the data on Warcraft logs. This doesn’t mean they’ve been bad. Mediocre means middle.
@@krayt5875 i checked and it's true, looks like they got rekt in last patch lol, still destro is bis in aoe though it doest fit the "god comp" rn, but you see locks in almost all bosses top 100 in mythic raids, as almost every fight is cleave, a lot of bosses also have locks in top 10 or even r1. Let's be real, with that much, portal, healthstone, the crazy defensives, you cannot go wrong with lock in any expansion. Locks are mandatory.
Listen, they better not nerf this damn thing, for PVP i can understand to a point but for gods sake im tired of getting tuned into being too weak at the start and by end game it ends up being "average" in 2 specs and 1 spec finallys hits "okay yeah its good", for gods sake can we be the busted for most the expansion class this time? xD
The fact any of these hero talents are going to be in pvp is MIND BLOWING to me. won't be fun anymore having to track someone's CD from their gravespire robotlord spec tree. Way too overcomplicated, balancing will be impossible for them
@grantx6 yeah but when pvp gets crazy in a wierd way that's also when it's the most fun and memorable times, as long as it just isn't one spec/class dominating everybody
maybe not attack a legacy test dummy to showcase dps also dmg right not means nothing as tuning has not been tuned yet so numbers right now are irrelevant do not make decisions based off of numbers right test the playstyle of the spec. 1 more thing you had the st build doing aoe for destro
That's a WoD target dummy, numbers are much higher! Although we can expect S1 to have players around 6-7 million HP, tanks at 10+, and player critting in the millions still
Eveyone needs to stop worrying about numbers and worry about how the spec/hero talents plays. Currently rogue,warrior, and maybe dh Imo feels kinda bad to play. Their hero talents dont feel impactdul. All other specs feel pretty good. If you are playing beta voice your opinion on the forums with CONSTRUCTIVE feedback tell them why it feels bad and how to fix it. Its crazy that everyone is just ZOMG THIS SPEC IS OP. Do you ever wonder why? Those who voice their feedback in the correct way get heard.
Until they get rid of rapture for affliction i will not play warlock. Its a terrible ability and fights with the spec do much that they keep adding instant cast procs to it as a bandaid fix.
Im pretty sure Warlock is also considered the least mobile dps in the game atm. If they get 0 mechanics and able to stand in 1 spot, hopefully they manage to do good dmg.
Funny how this is from the perspective of already tanky Specs who are still having problems Imagine finding M+ too bursty when playing Mage, Warlock, Spriest, Aug or Ret wtf are Shamans, non-Aug evokers, healing priests, balance druids even supposed to do
@Izenhart agreed, I thought the whole point was to create create more aoe dmg. Like they could make a splash dot dmg that stacks off bolts. Otherwise we are going to see two worlds in war within wrecked pvp and pve
Dude mage is only good on retail right now with elite Aug and spriest players, go pug some 12-15s and fire come back to us all before you act like mage is some good class, you will do 400k overall if your lucky, spriest for example will do 650k, ret will do 650k, Sin rogue will do 650k, fire mage is fucking trash right now
@@waxoncrypto9524nobody cares about low keys. Fire mage and spriest are breaking the game since s2 dragonflight. And it needs to get fixed. Fire mage is currently the most broken spec on beta. Only unholy dks and ww monks keep up with it.
No, that doesn't help anyone except you so that you have content to upload. As everyone knows, a lot of changes and/or adjustments are made up until shortly before the first season. The video has exactly zero added value.
According to your Mensa member logic then nobody should be discussing a single thing about the expansion until it's out, right? Oh wait, but we all know it doesn't matter until the Season actually opens so we have to wait until then? But wait, we all know Blizzard balances Specs after a couple of weeks of results so I guess that's when we're allowed to talk about the game? late September? I lost IQ reading this
I recently tried to learn affliction wk I have tried the other 2 wk specs but damn affliction feels so much better for me I hope they will be good also for M+
I’m so happy you do these. I do a lot of beta testing on classes I know but impossible for me to test all classes and a great gauge for when things go live
every beta pass for the past decade warlocks dominate and then last second get nerfed to absolute dogshit for the first live patch
C'mon don't stoop as low as the Mages' propaganda machine of constantly pretending they're weak
Warlock was indeed quite shit for DF release, however!
Affliction was top3 dps in Nathria and best Ranged DPS in Uldir in BFA
@@Izenhart Affliction should be in top3 dps in raid in every expansion :)
As a warlock main since Vanilla, this comment stings. It’s like they won’t let go of how broken we were at the start.
Wrong
Has there been even one patch in WOW's history where you didn't have at least one of the lock specs being at the top?
"here's what's good on the beta so far"
"but it's just the beta, and it's only so far"
"yeah"
Tell me your angle on this
Is your plan to have 0 players talk about what's happening in the Beta because "it can/will change" ?
Are we just gonna tune out until the expansion is released then?
@@Izenhart i'm joking-the first quote is this video. the second one is the usual goofy reply that these conversations aren't useful (they are useful). the third one is "no shit sherlock, i said they're just early impressions from the beginning"
but my joke was perhaps too dadlike due to father's day
@@VizerPS Don't worry I understood the joke it was funny, we can still laugh and appreciate the content!
They where nerfed by A LOT Yesterday 😢 back to hitting like soggy Asian noodle mix
IMO remove malefic rapture and put the damage back into the dots. Also 3 dots will do just increase their damage rather than giving locks 5 dots to manage. Make shadowbolts actually fucking pump so when you get an instant proc it’s feels good rather than just insignificant damage. Also bring back fel lance instant cast to allow you to refresh the duration of UA and give some instant cast damage on the move.
i miss legion UA so much
I miss the time when melees were in the game.
Izen gets everything nerfed. So... youre time is up Locks. Hope you enjoyed the 1st week of Beta!
Don't worry, Warlocks are master gaslighters, they'll get nerfed, forgotten for 2 and a half months and then mysteriously buffed during Heroic week
Yay, warlocks rule!! I miss playing affliction, hope that's the best one but I'll play any of the three.
Those squeaky door noises scared me half to death, I live alone 😂
I want to affliction to have their time in the light! I’m personally rerolling spriest. Looking forward to TWW!
Cue Affliction no longer being a scuffed SPriest after 3 expansions and becoming Meta just because you rerolled. It was your fault!
@@Izenhart needed a break from the DH, my boomer wrists can’t take it anymore 😂
destro warlock 7+ years here; yay! :)
We all know what blizzard does to people that fly to close to the top of the dps meter. Besides mage.
I don't know, we know Blizzard has been a proud parent of their golden child, Mage, for years but I think Warlock might as well be an illegitimate child they still take care of...
Let us have our moment in the sun! 😁😁
Never forget Blizzard giving Destruction warlock a 5% aura buff the first week of season 3 of Shadowlands.
But true, they have, at least, been a bit more vigilant about warlocks this expansion though, at least.
@@Izenhart is this what grand delusions look like? lol
Doom is insane as well. You can use it to insta kill critters and summon doom guards. I'm mostly doing solo content and amount of doom guards I have following me is comical
I mean by back the youtube algo is on your side now keep pumping i guess :D
That with the shadowbolt doing so much dmg could be the Tier- set 50% more shadowbolt dmg XD
Warlock Demonology 11.0 Class Set 2pc - Your primary demon deals 5% increased damage, and your Shadow Bolt damage is increased by 50%.
It's also because of the new Rune of Shadows: Reduces the cast time of Shadow Bolt by 25% and increases its damage by 40%
I get tricked every time by warlock in the run-up to an expansion. Not gonna do it this time.
I hope they adjust Soul harvester to make it more AOE viable for locks, the recent nerf to its damage has basically just made it redundant against Hellcaller.
Nerfs are definitely coming, just hope they don't over do it
I guess since Hellcaller feels tailor made for Affli and Diabolist for Demo, SH is kind of in the middle of both
But yeah too much shadowbolt/nightfall synergy which doesn't do too much in aoe
Demo has never been a bursty spec except DF season 2.
love it in the First 1 min it was almost the same sentence repeading over and over
It is a necessary disclaimer to prevent people getting triggered as to why their particular Spec isn't being mentioned
Shadowbolt hitting almost as hard as a Chaos Bolt is kind of dumb.
Affliction has multiple issues with how they designed Hellcaller including, for some unknown reason, they made Wither the same base damage across Destro and Aff. That means it is based on Immolate’s base damage rather than Corruption’s base damage which is already much higher in damage than it should be. Then it gets amplified by their mastery.
Currently Hellcaller Warlock is still bugged for Overfiend. For whatever reason they get free procs of Overfiend if they are Hellcaller Destro. Those free procs don’t take away from the stacks you already have so Hellcaller Destro procs Overfiend twice as much as they should. Blizzard knows about this and it will be fixed.
Wither doesn’t actually deal a lot of damage by itself. Other than multidotting which is problematic for Aff, Wither isn’t that strong compared to the better Hero Talents.
those WoD target dummies got that thicc dmg
Hey! Great video! With the luxthos WA how did you change the CD timers fonts? :)
I just picked the first WA I found for the Spec, so if it wasn't that then it's OmniCC
I noticed the name halfway through the video "Womanlet" HAHA.
Remember that one time warlock was bad? I don’t. Look at all these warlock cry babies in your comments LOL
blizzard golden child mages and warlocks.
Warlocks are farrrrrr from golden child lol. 😂 good try tho. And as a high rated pvp warlock..... we are blizzards melee punching bag tester. But good try.
@@Flyt824 idc about pvp, im talking about pve, in wich they are.
I dont care if they nerf them last second, playstyle looks so fun right now for Demo and Destro
What giving Destro a new button to press after 20 years does to a mf
@@Izenhart Ain't that the truth brother, I just hope that if they do decide to nerf, it will be a number game and not playstyle flow
Yoo what setting or weak aura using to get the big cooldown numbers
Lock can be good as blizzard wants (it’s one of their love childs) but for the sake of everyone’s good time do not make demo the best spec.
I legit have more respect for tanks in pvp than a spec based around standing in one spot, do nothing, and letting NPCs carry you offensively
As a warlock main i am excited for affli, demo reworks/changes but also please nerf them so they will not be played by everyone on tww release
I have a suspicion, my beloved rogue will not show up in this vid! 😭
You would be correct!
Actually your Rogue will come up in tomorrow's video!
Although on which terms I wouldn't be so happy...
@@IzenhartYeah that’s what I expect :/
wtf are these numbers man? 63 million? Is that a lot? I can’t even tell anymore.
He's trying to give people informative info while showing DMG numbers on a decade old training dummy... Not like there's any training dummies in valdrakken🙄🙄🙄 (there is)
what a surprise - looks like shaman dps is garbo once again xd
Elemental - Yes (totally being reworked soon *copium*)
Enhancement - top half of the results so far, not great, not terrible
@@Izenhart we all know shaman dps will be dead in m+, in raids enh will have 1 spot for windfury regardless of its dps prolly. ele is hands down the worst ranged dps spec now not only from numbers and gameloop wise. hopium!
@@Izenhart Before Elemental gets a rework there will be at least another 5 reworks for shadow, 7 for retri and 23816268 buffs for mages...
@@Vytautas-y7j unfortunate because it's my favourite spec. If they had more survivability I'd still be playing them. Unfortunately the fact their damage is non-existent gives me a great excuse to play another class
Oh wow those double-digit million numbers are so MoP🤣🤣
Can anyone send a link to these logs? Wanna see the others
Not warlocks not mages i think its hunters after the rework
There will be a ton of balance tuning and warlock will return to the mediocrity it saw throughout most of Dragonflight.
Mediocrity? Lock has been bis in full aoe with destro and in st with demo all exp lol, in fact lock has had at least 1 top performing spec at least every exp and the utility/survivability is crazy, you'll never have a problem getting in pugs...
I see you like starting the day looking on the bright side of things!
@@dariominiello9934 Since they gutted the Demo ST build at the start of S3 there wasn't a single fight where Warlock was a top performer in ST situations.
@@dariominiello9934I think you’re still living in Shadowlands. Aside from season 2, warlock has been mediocre in mythic raid. Check the data on Warcraft logs. This doesn’t mean they’ve been bad. Mediocre means middle.
@@krayt5875 i checked and it's true, looks like they got rekt in last patch lol, still destro is bis in aoe though it doest fit the "god comp" rn, but you see locks in almost all bosses top 100 in mythic raids, as almost every fight is cleave, a lot of bosses also have locks in top 10 or even r1. Let's be real, with that much, portal, healthstone, the crazy defensives, you cannot go wrong with lock in any expansion. Locks are mandatory.
Thank goodness Izen is here to let me know what I think
Can you tell Blizzard what I think about Shamans as well?
So you get banned instead of me? lmao
what in gods name are those numbers. Are we going to actually have those numbers?!
He's attacking a 10 year old training dummy for some reason.... The scaling is screwed up
Listen, they better not nerf this damn thing, for PVP i can understand to a point but for gods sake im tired of getting tuned into being too weak at the start and by end game it ends up being "average" in 2 specs and 1 spec finallys hits "okay yeah its good", for gods sake can we be the busted for most the expansion class this time? xD
The fact any of these hero talents are going to be in pvp is MIND BLOWING to me. won't be fun anymore having to track someone's CD from their gravespire robotlord spec tree. Way too overcomplicated, balancing will be impossible for them
@grantx6 yeah but when pvp gets crazy in a wierd way that's also when it's the most fun and memorable times, as long as it just isn't one spec/class dominating everybody
raid testing means nothing, the game is mostly about m+
Wrong MM Hunter is the best, literally multi shot rapid shot 2mm dps, 1.5mm sustained on 4 targets it’s wild
maybe not attack a legacy test dummy to showcase dps also dmg right not means nothing as tuning has not been tuned yet so numbers right now are irrelevant do not make decisions based off of numbers right test the playstyle of the spec. 1 more thing you had the st build doing aoe for destro
Its hilarious that after all of the stat crunches we're still casually critting for 50+ million damage per hit
That's a WoD target dummy, numbers are much higher!
Although we can expect S1 to have players around 6-7 million HP, tanks at 10+, and player critting in the millions still
These are ashran dummies bro
@@Izenhart haha jokes on you my fury crits 500k . Please send help
just show the tier list. damn it.
Eveyone needs to stop worrying about numbers and worry about how the spec/hero talents plays. Currently rogue,warrior, and maybe dh Imo feels kinda bad to play. Their hero talents dont feel impactdul. All other specs feel pretty good. If you are playing beta voice your opinion on the forums with CONSTRUCTIVE feedback tell them why it feels bad and how to fix it. Its crazy that everyone is just ZOMG THIS SPEC IS OP. Do you ever wonder why? Those who voice their feedback in the correct way get heard.
Its been weeks of an entire hero tree being BROKEN and blizzard hasnt done shit. Why fight it, i think im finally dropping rogue this expac
u see that overfiend? u see that damage? if the nerfs did not come i delete wow pronto.
Until they get rid of rapture for affliction i will not play warlock. Its a terrible ability and fights with the spec do much that they keep adding instant cast procs to it as a bandaid fix.
Im pretty sure Warlock is also considered the least mobile dps in the game atm. If they get 0 mechanics and able to stand in 1 spot, hopefully they manage to do good dmg.
warlock was nerfed 100% allways blizzard do
holy shit and warrior cant even get decent aoe?
no the best spec is WW monk
After years its starting to be a little cringy from blizzard side its always warlock or mage.
Oh its warlock ? 385th patch in a row ? Who would have thought.
what XD
do it on proper dummies, giving some of the viewers false numbers lol
Nah, huge nerf incoming, survivability to dmg ratio insanely unbalanced.
Funny how this is from the perspective of already tanky Specs who are still having problems
Imagine finding M+ too bursty when playing Mage, Warlock, Spriest, Aug or Ret
wtf are Shamans, non-Aug evokers, healing priests, balance druids even supposed to do
@Izenhart agreed, I thought the whole point was to create create more aoe dmg. Like they could make a splash dot dmg that stacks off bolts. Otherwise we are going to see two worlds in war within wrecked pvp and pve
Dude mage is only good on retail right now with elite Aug and spriest players, go pug some 12-15s and fire come back to us all before you act like mage is some good class, you will do 400k overall if your lucky, spriest for example will do 650k, ret will do 650k, Sin rogue will do 650k, fire mage is fucking trash right now
@@waxoncrypto9524nobody cares about low keys. Fire mage and spriest are breaking the game since s2 dragonflight. And it needs to get fixed. Fire mage is currently the most broken spec on beta. Only unholy dks and ww monks keep up with it.
No, that doesn't help anyone except you so that you have content to upload.
As everyone knows, a lot of changes and/or adjustments are made up until shortly before the first season.
The video has exactly zero added value.
According to your Mensa member logic then nobody should be discussing a single thing about the expansion until it's out, right?
Oh wait, but we all know it doesn't matter until the Season actually opens so we have to wait until then?
But wait, we all know Blizzard balances Specs after a couple of weeks of results so I guess that's when we're allowed to talk about the game? late September?
I lost IQ reading this
Can you not read? The title literally says "for now"
Your comment added zero value to the universe. It actually subtracted quite a bit.
@@Izenhartit’s just typical brain rot comments. Keep posting mr izen king 👑
What a jackass 😂
nice propaganda
Retitle video: LoCkS R BeST. K LAWL
I recently tried to learn affliction wk I have tried the other 2 wk specs but damn affliction feels so much better for me I hope they will be good also for M+
It's the luxury of being a pure DPS Class! You always have the option to choose 1 of the best 3 available
Mhh for now I roll the dices for voidwaver priest
bleh
how are frost dks and surv hunters?
Frost sucks sadly :( rip my main and surv hunters are busted