History of Finland (Animated)

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  • Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
  • The arctic wonderland of Finland may not sound too interesting for the average folk in historical terms, yet there is so much hiding under the hood that is about to be unraveled in this video. Time to appreciate Finland!
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  • @BalkanOdyssey_
    @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +321

    I apologize for the first soundtrack being noisy and as you may have noticed with headphones, being hearable only on one ear.
    I guess these are the mistakes where I will learn the most for future videos, so I hope you don't mind :)
    Also, If you are willing to support me with a small donation, you can do so on Patreon, it really means a lot since UA-cam monetization isn't very generous :)

    • @legoaatukallefilms3527
      @legoaatukallefilms3527 4 роки тому +18

      You forgot lapland war

    • @stoneknight865
      @stoneknight865 4 роки тому +1

      You should do estonnia

    • @Copratra
      @Copratra 4 роки тому +5

      Not to mention that Simo Häyhä's record was not 'urban legend' as mentioned, but verified tally over the course of the wars... Thankfully there are several similar videos about mr. Häyhä and his exploits which remember to mention these things properly.

    • @TheMrTommo
      @TheMrTommo 4 роки тому +4

      The Lapland war was the period after the continuation war, where Finnish were forced to kick the Germans out. It's excuseable, since you're a foreigner

    • @Pintless
      @Pintless 4 роки тому +1

      @@samiels5081 winter war not cold war

  • @adhdasdfroflxd123
    @adhdasdfroflxd123 4 роки тому +683

    ”The land of snow”
    *looks outside*
    Let me stop you right there

  • @evill01
    @evill01 4 роки тому +1546

    Someone once said: Swedes we are not, Russians we do not want to become, let us therefore be Finns

  • @kamielheeres8687
    @kamielheeres8687 4 роки тому +757

    Why is finland so brave?
    It's because they're the balls of the scandinavian peninsula.

    • @jussieronen3707
      @jussieronen3707 4 роки тому +216

      As a finn I approve this. Sweden is the great dick of Scandinavia.

    • @Sipu97
      @Sipu97 4 роки тому +45

      *Fennoscandian. Finland is not part of Scandinavia...

    • @jorgosgustavus3183
      @jorgosgustavus3183 4 роки тому +21

      Sipu97 they never said Finland was part of the Scandinavia?

    • @Sipu97
      @Sipu97 4 роки тому +11

      @Jorgos Gustavus To me the implication is clear because of the of-genitive. If it were stated as "balls to the Scandinavian peninsula" it would have a different tone.

    • @neponen3236
      @neponen3236 4 роки тому +12

      This, this puts a smile in my face

  • @yharnamite7349
    @yharnamite7349 4 роки тому +502

    Serb from Bosnia talks about Finland (2020 colorized)

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +90

      Expect the unexpected

    • @lloyd.a
      @lloyd.a 4 роки тому +4

      Wut is this true?

    • @beaversforlife1298
      @beaversforlife1298 4 роки тому +4

      my like is the 69'th nice

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +9

      @@lloyd.a Very true

    • @danyagha5654
      @danyagha5654 4 роки тому +4

      Serbian Mapping then I shall expect you to go over the history of Central Asia. That would truly be unexpected.

  • @melvinherkel
    @melvinherkel 4 роки тому +781

    Finnish history is pretty much: tribes, Sweden, Russia, intependence

    • @Calaman228
      @Calaman228 4 роки тому +7

      Mosquitoes!? But its cold there how do you have them there? :D

    • @petrirantavalli859
      @petrirantavalli859 4 роки тому +75

      @@Calaman228 mosquitos breed at fall and hibernate during winter and hatch again when summer comes.

    • @casperk5164
      @casperk5164 4 роки тому +32

      @Stefan Calenic dude do you really think it’s cold all the time? I can tell you like two years ago i wen’t too finland (don’t ask why. it’s a tradition) and there was like 2000-5000+ mosquitoes.

    • @user-ce6iy2nw5o
      @user-ce6iy2nw5o 4 роки тому +22

      there's been tribal kindoms a thousand years before swedes and russians tho, all the history has been written by swedes

    • @finnicpatriot6399
      @finnicpatriot6399 4 роки тому +8

      Keaper The tribal period itself is 1000 years long and had many interesting phases. Finns arrived in Finland around 100ad.

  • @idiotandco.1750
    @idiotandco.1750 4 роки тому +327

    My left ear really enjoyed that soundtrack

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +49

      Yep noticed only after i uploaded... Was very frustrsting..

    • @FrozenPanzer
      @FrozenPanzer 4 роки тому +2

      Too and i am finnish person

    • @akioja1112
      @akioja1112 4 роки тому +1

      i just want my ear to explode

    • @user-qs3dq8qz9v
      @user-qs3dq8qz9v 3 роки тому

      My right ear realy enjoying classic

    • @northstar2621
      @northstar2621 3 роки тому +1

      Thank God I'm not the only one. Thought my earbuds finally broke

  • @Cikeb
    @Cikeb 4 роки тому +189

    Ok, there's more. The reason why Lenin accepted Finnish independence in 1917 was partly because they had civil war all over the place in Russia, and partly because the Russian Bolsheviks hoped that their ideological partners in Finland would overthrow the newly declared independent government in a Finnish revolution. As you yourself state, the Reds received support from the Bolshevik during the civil war in 1918.
    You also missed the last part of the Finnish wars - The Lapland war 1944-45. This was fought against the German troops in Lapland, to drive them out instead of letting Soviet troops into the country to do it. Germany was militarily responsible for northern Finnish Lapland 1941-44.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +20

      The Russian bolsheviks didn't only hope - they practically made sure that the war in Finland started in January 1918 - within a month of the "agreement" with the Russian bolsheviks and the legal government of Finland.
      Without the Russian bolsheviks there wouldn't have been any war in Finland.

    • @Cikeb
      @Cikeb 4 роки тому +1

      @@timoterava7108 Semantics, but yeah.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +6

      @@Cikeb Not really. When I read your text I got the impression, that the Russian bolsheviks were merely "helping" the Finnish Reds and "hoping" for the best (for them).
      Perhaps (hopefully) you didn't mean it quite like that, because in reality it was Russia and the Russian bolsheviks all along. As I wrote, there wouldn't have been any war in Finland without Lenin & co.
      The Russian bolsheviks agitated, initiated, armed and (partly) lead the Finnish Reds. The Russian bolshevik soldiers also fought along the Finnish Reds, as well as started the atrocities against the civilians.
      The Finnish Reds were mostly just ignorant and simple sheep, which were used for the soviet ideology.

    • @romaliop
      @romaliop 4 роки тому +8

      @@timoterava7108 Lenin was urging the Finnish Social Democratic Party to take up arms long before the war even started. They refused many times while trying to achieve their political goals through the democratic process. The war begun only after the whites conspired with the temporary Russian Government to prevent a SDP led declaration of independence and to break up the Finnish parliament where SDP at the time had an absolute majority.
      The idea that the civil war was a (proxy) war against the Russian Bolsheviks is a later fabrication with few ties to reality. The White Guard was backed by the Germans and was even considering handing over Finland to the German empire after their victory and installing a German noble as the king. Only after Germany lost the war were they forced to go for real independence and democracy as well as make real concessions to the working class.
      The truth is the first victim of war and most people even now are ignorant and simple sheep, this is nothing new. It is also evident in the way you still take pride in your ancestors killing their own kind and keep propagating their retroactive justifications for this. The war was a great tragedy to the Finnish people and the saddest part is that it all could have been avoided had it not been for people like you.

    • @hannavirtanen7006
      @hannavirtanen7006 9 місяців тому

      Finland has always been the brighest jewel In the Tzar's crown.

  • @aleskz1964
    @aleskz1964 4 роки тому +370

    When serbian mapping from Bosnia living in germany usually making videos explaining balkan history talks about finland: *visible confusion*

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +55

      Expect the unexpected

    • @Just_Alex5
      @Just_Alex5 4 роки тому +7

      *Lol i know you from discord.*

    • @aleskz1964
      @aleskz1964 4 роки тому +2

      @@Just_Alex5 ye Ik

    • @panzer_waffle4150
      @panzer_waffle4150 4 роки тому +1

      So many of us in bosnia, damn

    • @LukasBlack2003
      @LukasBlack2003 4 роки тому +1

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ Wait, you live in Germany? Kannst du auch Deutsch? Ich bin nämlich aus Österreich.

  • @simohayho8622
    @simohayho8622 4 роки тому +334

    Finnish history: "Invasion by Sweden, war, war, war, Invasion by Russians, war, war, war"

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +21

      Thank god, you came around. Can you please snipe our national debt and aging population.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +1

      Also submachineguning them
      is good enough

    • @lottatoikkanen6940
      @lottatoikkanen6940 4 роки тому

      simo häyhä 😎

    • @11sjv
      @11sjv 4 роки тому +4

      Ur name is not right its simo häyhä

    • @simohayho8622
      @simohayho8622 4 роки тому

      @@11sjv your name should be hot dirt block not bl0ck

  • @Robbini0
    @Robbini0 4 роки тому +379

    Helsinki wasn't really the capitol during swedish reign, either at all, or barely for a short time, I believe it was Russia that made it the capitol, because it was closer to Russia.
    White Death isn't really an urban legend. And he's either known to have killed 500+ with his rifle and an additional 200 with his suomi submachinegun, and most of them are pretty much confirmed.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +63

      There was no "capitol" of Finland during the Swedish era, but Turku was always the city of Finnish administration. Helsinki became the capitol of the Grand Duchy in 1812.
      I'm pretty sure that the total of 500+ includes also the ones with the SMG, which were estimated, not counted. This still doesn't diminish Simo's achievements - at least not in my books.

    • @Luthies
      @Luthies 4 роки тому +6

      @@timoterava7108 Tbh under Swedish reign there was no "Finnish" administration. Swedes kept the territory purposefully divided into separate zones to prevent the identity of a united people forming. Grand Duchy of Finland under the Russian Empire was the first time the entire territory of Finland was administered as one.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +12

      @@Luthies True. Turku was still the see of the bishop of Finland, who for a long time was the highest authority. Turku also was the "capital" of the Grand Duchy of Finland (during Johan III), which covered most of Finland.

    • @jonathankinnunen4229
      @jonathankinnunen4229 4 роки тому +11

      @@timoterava7108 he had estimated 542 kills according to a researcher in war museum. And his unit's captain credited him with 259 confirmed kills by sniper rifle and an equal number of kills by SMG, total of 505 confirmed kills

    • @jonathankinnunen4229
      @jonathankinnunen4229 4 роки тому +5

      capital of finland* capitol on kongressitalo

  • @Scouppi
    @Scouppi 4 роки тому +99

    Suomi mainittu TORILLA TAVATAAN! Alo brate kakosi!

  • @hyp3r459
    @hyp3r459 4 роки тому +73

    You could've used Jean Sibelius for the background music

    • @nakkilama2645
      @nakkilama2645 4 роки тому +2

      that would have been pretty cool

    • @akioja1112
      @akioja1112 4 роки тому +2

      but what if jean sibelius copyright claimed him

    • @hyp3r459
      @hyp3r459 4 роки тому

      @@akioja1112 the copyright actually goes out in 3 years

  • @numans.254
    @numans.254 Рік тому +27

    Finland is a brave nation. Respect.

  • @finnishdoomguy
    @finnishdoomguy 4 роки тому +49

    Respect from Finland.

    • @finnishdoomguy
      @finnishdoomguy 3 роки тому

      @Sina Fazel It's not a finnish name, so I don't know.
      The reason why I call myself "Finn" is because I took it out of Finnish.
      My actual finnish name is Kimi.

    • @finnishdoomguy
      @finnishdoomguy 3 роки тому

      @Sina Fazel What about it?

  • @Lurkki91
    @Lurkki91 4 роки тому +21

    I'm finnish and proud of it! My grandpa was in the continuation war and made through it alive.
    He never spoke or told about his experiences voluntarily, i'm sure he was traumatized. He carried grenade-sharps in is body for the rest of his life.
    I am so thankful for their sacrifices.

  • @cassu6
    @cassu6 4 роки тому +49

    Fun fact: Finland was the first country after Soviet Union to receive MIG21s, even before other Warsaw pact countries.
    Even funnier fact: the pilots sent to train in Russia saw a nuclear test, and one day the people in the facility they were at had disappeared. The Cuban missile crisis had started.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +4

      It was either that we would bought them from the Soviets or they would have come themselves to monitor our airspace. They wanted Leningrad and Murmansk vicinities to have modern aircover. I guess, It was also a way for the Soviets to know, would we enforce our neutrality when needed, I guess. You don't intercept western spyplanes with few DeHavilland Vampires and Folland Gnats.
      Interesting interview from a Finnish MiG-21 pilot
      ua-cam.com/video/RaPQYCvVN6k/v-deo.html

    • @Vamutus
      @Vamutus 4 роки тому +4

      Those MiG21 were beautiful and were cutting edge aerospace tech in 60-70s. Too bad they are obsolete now, glad i got to see them fly

  • @ifinnishboy4126
    @ifinnishboy4126 4 роки тому +279

    Finland is so good that there is a saying like
    Being born in finland is like winning the lottery

    • @FrozenPanzer
      @FrozenPanzer 4 роки тому +30

      Yes it is and i just won borning lottery

    • @trumpjongun8831
      @trumpjongun8831 4 роки тому +30

      Today it's like winning on the slot machine.
      For the immigrants from islam countries it's like winning from a lottery when they get here.

    • @user-dc2hs9lt2m
      @user-dc2hs9lt2m 4 роки тому +4

      Remember Miss Helsinki 2017? :)

    • @nicolas__788
      @nicolas__788 4 роки тому +2

      guess i won the lottery then

    • @spacepizzer
      @spacepizzer 4 роки тому +1

      Guess i'm lucky then

  • @anonymousperson8475
    @anonymousperson8475 4 роки тому +246

    Fun fact: Britain against Finland is the only war between two completely democratic countries in history!

    • @willed6264
      @willed6264 4 роки тому +31

      Hm? Wdym Finland alone has never been in war with UK. It was cus we were with nazis :D

    • @simohayho8622
      @simohayho8622 4 роки тому +8

      Has Finland actually ever been in war with Britain?

    • @joonas1923
      @joonas1923 4 роки тому +23

      Finland has fought British only during the Crimean war, when French and British ships bombed several Finnish fortresses. There was war declared between these two during ww2, but actually the Brits wanted to help Finland during winter war, before the war was declared during Continuation war.

    • @anonymousperson8475
      @anonymousperson8475 4 роки тому +15

      joonas19 As Finland was not an independent country, I don’t think it counts. But yes, no fighting actually occured during WW2 (or the Brits bombed German airfields in Finland?)

    • @anonymousperson8475
      @anonymousperson8475 4 роки тому +7

      Wille D: While yes, the reason for the declaration of war was our alliance with the nazis, the UK declared war on us independently (on 6 December no less, rude). But yes, the reason was our ”alliance” with Germany.

  • @jebbus132
    @jebbus132 4 роки тому +21

    One war you forgot to mention was the small part Finland had in the Russian civil war, where Finland through volunteers and "off the books" operations tried to at the very least achieve independence for the many people groups of Finno-ugric decent, if not annex the areas where they lived outright. These military operations where collectively called The Kinship Wars here in Finland. Now those are so obscure that many outside of Finland don't even know of them and are remembered by few. We don't really like to talk about it. The only really successful operation was that of our volunteer forces send to Estonia to help them achieve independence. The force was called the Sons of the Nordic.

    • @hung-upear2659
      @hung-upear2659 4 роки тому +2

      We thank the Finns forever for that!

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +2

      That's because Estonians were really keen on the idea of Independence and fought really hard ( not only againts the Russian reds but their former German masters too ), but East and White Karelians really missed the train in Tartu Peace Treaty of 1920 and were betrayed by the USSR of their autonomy.

    • @jebbus132
      @jebbus132 4 роки тому +4

      And now that I have had more time to think another war not mentioned was the Finnish rifle battalion of the Russian Imperial guard sent to fight along side with the Russians in the Crimean war as Finland was a grand duchy under Russia at the time. Most notably the battle of Gorni Dubnik.

  • @pomeranianproductions647
    @pomeranianproductions647 4 роки тому +191

    My favorite country in the world besides Germany of course. I already was in Helsinki and the city is a beauty.

    • @ninaakari5181
      @ninaakari5181 4 роки тому +20

      @Nationalistic FINN Helsinki is as real Finland as any other part of the country is. You hillbilly boys prefer there are no cities at all for you are scared of noice and people.

    • @OltskuMP
      @OltskuMP 4 роки тому +14

      @@ninaakari5181 Tbh Helsinki is kinda ass. Every other city is better in Finland imo. Finland is kinda ugly country tho.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +25

      Helsinki is as much Finland as New York is America (the USA) or Brussels Belgium - not really that much.
      In Finland it is common to speak of "the Helsinki bubble". Both the people inside and outside of the city see Helsinki as different.
      E.g. half of the immigrants (and especially most of the illegal ones) live in Helsinki area. The Greens party ("melons"...) of Finland practically only exists in there. The rest of the Finns still take protecting the environment seriously mind,, but they still want/need to live with the nature instead of only talking about it.
      One can find many other dividing examples. Of course Helsinki is the capital of Finland and many essential institutions are located there, but if you only visit Helsinki, you haven't really seen Finland.
      Helsinki is the exception, not the example, of Finland or the Finns.

    • @ninaakari5181
      @ninaakari5181 4 роки тому +1

      @@timoterava7108 I don't think people get confused and mix cities for country side. Every country has cities and country side outside of the city, so I am pretty sure someone who says "I like Helsinki" does not think the whole Finland is just Helsinki spread up all over borders. They simply like the city. It is not some kind of 0 sum game where liking Helsinki is disliking the country side. Also me living in Helsinki area have never ever heard someone dislike any other part of Finland, and there are huge diversity of people living in the capital area. So called green-leftists are minority (although loud one) here and majority of people are just normal, hard working & family oriented good fellows.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +5

      @@ninaakari5181 I didn't write anything about liking or disliking - just that Helsinki (area) is not typical Finland.

  • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
    @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 4 роки тому +74

    Thank you! This was a very well made video but it would have been cool if you had talked about me, the king of Finland.

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +16

      Thank you man, I'm sorry but I realy had to oversimplify many parts of the history in order to pack everything into under 15mins

    • @Asptuber
      @Asptuber 4 роки тому

      Well, if you'd had stuck with Väinö instead of that misch-masch of a name...

    • @skidi4218
      @skidi4218 4 роки тому

      Almost king*
      He declined the offer himself after seeing how bad the war was going for Germany, but it's still cool to think that we were that close to becoming a kingdom.

    • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
      @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 4 роки тому +1

      @@skidi4218 Yes. Technically I wasn't a king but the the official name of Finland for few months was "Kingdom of Finland".

    • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
      @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 3 роки тому

      @syntikkamies I changed My channel name

  • @Foolsworn
    @Foolsworn 4 роки тому +5

    Glad to have found this channel! High quality and well versed.

  • @siisi2965
    @siisi2965 4 роки тому +20

    The reformation and the translation of the bible gave the Finnish language a proper written form for the first time
    Also Turku used to be the capital before Russia took over and moved the capital to Helsinki

  • @divine2962
    @divine2962 4 роки тому +6

    Love the Eu4 Music used in the video. And the video was really good and something you really should be proud of. Good job, Serbian!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you man, it really means a lot 😊

  • @Cikeb
    @Cikeb 4 роки тому +68

    Oh, and you got that revolt of 1595 completely loopsided I'm sorry to say. The so called "cudgel" or "club war" was a part of a bigger internal struggle in the Swedish realm, which included Poland-Lithuania. The war the Finnish peasents fought was not against the central power in Stockholm, but against the elite in Finland (based in Turku, Åbo in Swedish) that had sided with king Sigismund of Poland-Lithuania, son of the Swedish king Johan III and his Polish wife Katarina Jagellonica. As the son of the former king, Sigismund became the king of Sweden, but his uncle Charles (Karl in Swedish) would later oust him and become King Charles IX. It was Charles who gave his support to the peasents to fight against the elite in Finland, that had sided with Sigismund in the conflict. You see, in those late medieval days the peasents usually sought the protection of the king, from the nobles who usually administered the regions and collected the taxes. The rebels were not rebelling against Sweden you see. In fact, the peasents were as far as they knew subjects of the Swedish king. There was not a sense of national Finnish identity yet, especially not in the rural class. Not in Sweden either. Only the smaller, higher classes of society might have thought about such things.
    It seems you've fallen for outdated interpretations of history that were usual in those older history books, that were too often influenced by national-romaticism, and has a narrative which quite frankly is anachronistic, when it tries to explain people's motivations in those early days.

    • @Cikeb
      @Cikeb 4 роки тому +6

      @rigegs Small correction. The concept of citizenship did not exist in the monarchy of those days. Everybody was a subject to the king/queen. Loyalty was expected to the monarch, not a people or a country. That's one major difference that people tend to forget about when comparing this day to yesterday.

    • @emmamemma4162
      @emmamemma4162 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for explaining this so clearly!

    • @1alecci
      @1alecci 4 роки тому

      ​@@Cikeb From what I've understood, the peasants of Finland had the right to send their deputies to attend the Swedish parliament. This differs from occupied areas that did not have this right and therefore can be considered as some kind of "citizenship".

    • @Cikeb
      @Cikeb 4 роки тому +5

      @@1alecci It sure does. It's because the area today known as Finland was NOT occupied for over 500 years. It was an integral part of the Swedish realm, not a "colony". As you probably know, the only Finland back in the medieval days was the area around Turku. An area called "Finland Proper" nowadays. It was one of several Swedish provinces all around the realm. The other provinces were Tavastia, Karelia, Ostrobothnia, Nyland, Savonia and Satakunta. They were no different than the provinces in what is today known as Sweden.

    • @LynxSouth
      @LynxSouth 3 роки тому

      @@Cikeb Was the amount of royal investment in these now-Finnish provinces equal to expenditures on equivalent areas in what is now (still) Sweden? Did the Swedish crown spend as much on roads and harbors, fortifications, combatting outlawry, administering justice, ameliorating famines and epidemics, etc.? I ask because I've read that, however the government felt about the geographical territory, the Finnish-speaking peoples and areas received only a fraction of the positive attention and development funds that Swedish-speaking areas got.

  • @Raccoon_A
    @Raccoon_A 4 роки тому +44

    Makes my head hurt when so much crucial history has to be left out to make this video fit under 16 mins.

    • @henri9109
      @henri9109 4 роки тому

      Which parts of history would you consider important to mention as well?

    • @SilverGamingFI
      @SilverGamingFI 4 роки тому +6

      @@henri9109 thw Lapland war for example

    • @iAmPesukone
      @iAmPesukone 4 роки тому +8

      @@SilverGamingFI And everything between wars. The history of Finland, like that of pretty much any country, is full of interesting twists and turns not related to warfare or even foreign politics.

    • @taistelusammakko5088
      @taistelusammakko5088 4 роки тому

      @@henri9109 muinaiskuninkaat?

  • @DanskuRL
    @DanskuRL 4 роки тому +4

    Honestly im genuinely surprised as a finnish guy about the quality of this video. I even learned new stuff. All the animations were great, your voice is amazing for this and this couldnt get any better. Keep up the great content

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +2

      Im extremely glad that you liked the video and that you find it educational and well-made. It actually means hella lot and motivates me. Thank you!

  • @eelipekkala121
    @eelipekkala121 4 роки тому +8

    Im from Finland, and i can confirm that Finland had 10 tanks on start of the winter war. Not 32 tanks, as this video tells.

    • @heba4021
      @heba4021 2 роки тому

      Im from uruguay and i know that you are gay

  • @aamo3960
    @aamo3960 4 роки тому +3

    This video was really interesting and as a finn i gotta praise your pronounciation of Finnish words👍🏻. Also fun fact, during the Civil war, my hometown of Seinäjoki acted as the main military and political hub of the white guard from 27.1.1918 to late March same year.
    PS: You earned a subscription

  • @Martin-oi9ln
    @Martin-oi9ln 4 роки тому

    I'm rly glad this channel is back, just got back from binging on the discontinued AHOE from 2 years ago.

  • @ristoh1420
    @ristoh1420 4 роки тому +2

    Great video overall! I'd love to have seen more about the 1500s and Gustav the first, he truly was an instrumental part in shaping the path Sweden and especially Finland were heading towards, with the laws, protestant faith and a lot of other stuff. Also you really should've mentioned the first and second oppression periods, 1st being from 1899 to 1905 and 1908 to 1917 which lead to a lot of national spirit and will to leave the empire. Lastly as a side note you could've mentioned some of the great people of the 19th century Finland since that period is regarded as the golden age of Finnish art and literature and a lot of the nationalistic spirit was built up during that period.
    Nothing that was in the video pops out at me as wrong, but I still would've loved to see these things added. Anyway, love that you made the video, thank you a lot!

  • @stefanvlad8472
    @stefanvlad8472 4 роки тому +9

    I was recently thinking about your posts and now this... Thanks daddy

  • @lemontank5533
    @lemontank5533 4 роки тому +154

    It would be nice to see the history of the vikings

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +25

      Could be a very interesting video idea. Thank you!

    • @Minecratify
      @Minecratify 4 роки тому +1

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ if you do! Take up that Viking was a thing people did. Most people was farmers and traders

    • @oliverludwig6148
      @oliverludwig6148 4 роки тому +1

      @@Minecratify that doesn't mean, that viking is a thing people "did". I viking, you viking, he vikings?

    • @epeli0035
      @epeli0035 4 роки тому

      Mun kaveri on sukua viikingeille XD

    • @TheParez
      @TheParez 4 роки тому +1

      @Polish Hero Witold Pilecki Wikipedia source, the best source.

  • @somaliandictatorship8372
    @somaliandictatorship8372 4 роки тому

    This is fantastic, please make more videos like this. You, my good sir, have earned a new subscriber and member of your community, you deserved it.

  • @JanneRanta
    @JanneRanta 4 роки тому +44

    Vikings weren't that much of thing in finland thought. It was more like vikings raided here and finns fought against them.

    • @paavoilves5416
      @paavoilves5416 4 роки тому +6

      You're kinda right. Finns were quite static during the viking age, fighting vikings that raided Finnish coastlines. But in the 1200's after Scandinavia became christian etc, Finns raided Scandinavians and burned Swedish cities and did trade with countries as far away as the Byzantine Empire.

    • @hammyhamsterisagangster6630
      @hammyhamsterisagangster6630 4 роки тому +3

      @@paavoilves5416 Wait we Finns did that? wow

  • @hung-upear2659
    @hung-upear2659 4 роки тому +62

    Good video, but Estonia is Finland's neighbour too :(. Estonia's history is similar to Finland's before and after middle ages (middle ages was weird thing anyways). We also were one of the last pagans in Europe (officialy it got christianised 1229) and got independence too after WWI, but unlike Finns, we lost our independence in 1940. Still, through the ages, we have kept close ties with the Finns and consider them as friends always. Love from Estonia!

    • @hung-upear2659
      @hung-upear2659 4 роки тому +1

      @Mika Hamari tõsi

    • @hohoo4067
      @hohoo4067 4 роки тому

      its not neibhbour theres the ocean between finland and estonia

    • @Battlebox0
      @Battlebox0 4 роки тому +7

      Kiitos halvasta viinasta🙏

    • @PunteriVR
      @PunteriVR 4 роки тому +4

      You're not my friend, you're my brother my friend!

    • @hung-upear2659
      @hung-upear2659 4 роки тому +5

      @@hohoo4067 ocean you say... It is a gulf...

  • @slavicmapping1438
    @slavicmapping1438 4 роки тому +5

    Wow amazing you don't make much videos so I sometimes forget that I subscribe u lol.
    Dark Souls Countryballs next?

  • @E5rael
    @E5rael 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the nice video! The audiovisuals were top notch! Having played only EU3 and not EU4, I was thinking to myself how the music sounded kind of familiar. And sure enough, it was because it was composed by the same Andreas Waldetoft. Great music!
    A few errors here and there but they've been brought up in other comments already. I was kind of surprised you didn't mention Finland joining the EU in 1995, considering how the last era you addressed was 1945-2020. Oh, and you definitely should've mentioned Nokia! ;D And perhaps the recession that began in 2008, from which we're still kind of recovering, but that wouldn't have ended the video in a very high note, now would it? xD

  • @tikkurilaboi6893
    @tikkurilaboi6893 4 роки тому +11

    Nice, never expected this video to be made lol. As a finn, i approve of this. I myself would have talked about how Russia tried to russify Finland during the two periods of oppression, but other than that, great video!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +7

      Thank you mate, It really means a lot to know and see Finns themselves approving the video and supporting me!

    • @AttilaKattila
      @AttilaKattila 4 роки тому

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ I wished you covered the details of the medieval Swedish (and Finnish) estate-based society, perhaps some economic aspects of Finland and the Finnish people at different times, a little more about the happenings and events during the Swedish rule, early Finnish independence and World War 2, if the video was 30 minutes long for example, but I can understand that it's even more work and would perhaps be too long of a video for people to watch. Dunno if people are interested to listen for 30 minutes about Finnish history. However, I think this was an excellent crash course in Finnish history. Good job!

  • @bjorn7100
    @bjorn7100 2 роки тому +8

    03:56 I'm pretty sure it's wrong to call it Swedish occupation. The complete land, or in the early days some parts of, what is the sovereign state of Finland today was simply part of Sweden from appr. 1150 to 1809. The country was called Sweden and it included these lands, it was not Sweden-Finland (sort of like Denmark-Norway) and there was no political union of any two states called Sweden and Finland etc., it was simply Sweden (although the kingdom of course included Finnish people). If anything Sweden colonised Finland in the early days and made it part of the country, but it wasn't a military/belligerent occupation.
    Finland have been occupied by Russia during this time (as part of Sweden) for brief periods, and Åland was occupied briefly by UK and France during the Crimean war etc.

    • @bjorn7100
      @bjorn7100 Рік тому

      ​@NäköKulmaPulma Well, Finnish-speaking areas were part of the Swedish Empire so it makes sense that they played their part. I would like to see your source for "mostly", because I don't think that's true. On wikipedia it says slightly less than half for the 30 years war, six Swedish companies and four Finnish. The Empire relied on many foreign soldiers, which might mean from places not part of Sweden unlike Finland, such as a lot of Germans (although some small northern parts of Germany were Swedish at the time).
      By the way, no need to "thank" a regular Swede like me. A regular Swede in those days had more in common with regular Finnish-speaking people than with a Swedish king. Guess who wanted the wars, the regular folks or a few kings and nobility men?

  • @petrirajaniemi4370
    @petrirajaniemi4370 4 роки тому +9

    As a Finn I must admit, this was by far the most objective, unbiased and accurate presentation on Finnish history by a foreigner I have ever seen. Wow! Impressed! I could not have done a better job myself - I'll show this to my kids as well! Keep it up! Subscribing now :-)

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +2

      I'm extremely glad that you liked the video that much and that you think I did a good job :)

  • @deusgiff
    @deusgiff 4 роки тому +2

    Very interesting choice of country to cover. I personally love this country and wish to visit. Baltic States shared a lot throughout the years together with Finland and Estonia. Great content, keep it up!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +3

      Thanks mate, I always found Finland very mesmerising and enigmatic, so I thought people ought to know more about this gem

    • @madsbuhris
      @madsbuhris 4 роки тому

      Not really! The Baltic states have a different history beeing vassal state of German whereof Finland shared some 800 years with Sweden and had to mingle with the other Scandinavian countries in unions and wars.

  • @heikkisallinen9012
    @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +2

    As a Finnish history nerd ( for what it's worth ) ,I have to say : Well done !
    The humour here is spot on and there is no blatant over-simplifications
    I could spot no factual errors ( edit : except for the club war ) and pretty much all the Finnish history with it's most defining moments and developement as an independent state was covered really well.
    Perhaps there could have been a mention of Scandinavian Bronze age ( c. 1700-500 BC ) and more details about the developement of Finnish society under Russian rule ( 1812-1917 ) and the role of the Fennoman movement in shaping the country. And maybe also about the political turmoil and painful political reconciliations of the Interwar years ( 1918 - 1939 ).
    But that's actually all worth of nit-picking about your video here. And I like to nit-pick a lot, when it comes to history.
    Excellent work ! Liked and subscribed !
    and велики поздрав to you ! ( You are Serbian, right ? )

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much mate, it means really a lot to get confirmation from a Finn himself and especially from someone who is interested in his country's history. Really motivates me, I'll give my best in the future too 😊

    • @bolle9810
      @bolle9810 4 роки тому +2

      The Club War was quite factually wrong.

  • @kyoofyardale
    @kyoofyardale 4 роки тому +4

    Other people: In Finland are cold
    People from Finland: No? Here isnt cold!?

  • @miauni6803
    @miauni6803 4 роки тому +50

    The music is on point 💯

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +10

      Wonder who helped with the choiceee 😇

    • @kujalanville
      @kujalanville 4 роки тому +2

      I see someone has been playing EU4 :D

  • @fcole90
    @fcole90 4 роки тому

    Great job, so far one of the most complete and detailed history of Finland 🇫🇮 videos I've ever seen 😃 please, next do Sweden 🇸🇪 😊 (plus a suggestion, lower the volume of the background music, sometimes it covers your voice) 😉

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому

      Thank you very much for the support mate, I'm glad you liked it 😊
      And thank you for the suggestion, I'll make sure to perfect that nezt time

  • @thanksforthe57subs66
    @thanksforthe57subs66 4 роки тому +2

    Are we looking at a future series possibly..? Awesome video btw!

  • @polskieuirb6456
    @polskieuirb6456 4 роки тому +52

    Request: Next Do the History of Poland please
    Следеће, молим вас, историју Пољске.
    Następnie proszę o historię Polski. :)

  • @Luthies
    @Luthies 4 роки тому +22

    The number given here for casualties during the "Great Wrath" is based on old research. Newer research puts the number closer to 20000 dead and over 20000 taken to slavery. This doesn't count the number of people who died to starvation due to Russian troops taking most of the food either.

  • @housti
    @housti 4 роки тому

    Great video Serbian Mapping. Thank you!

  • @laiskapyykki
    @laiskapyykki 4 роки тому +7

    Reason why Finland won the winter war is: The soviet soldiers were actually mostly Ukranians, dragged from their homes to fight a war they had no part in. They had no sufficient winter gear, no camouflage in the snow(brown/green jackets and pants) and the winter was the coldest in 50 years. People literally froze to death. Finns were used to those conditions. Still that being said, finns really fought remarkably concidering the power against them.

    • @Cocakone
      @Cocakone 4 роки тому +1

      Finland lost the winter war

    • @mystergamer0750
      @mystergamer0750 4 роки тому

      Yes but actualy No

    • @Cocakone
      @Cocakone 4 роки тому

      @@mystergamer0750 actually yes. Even though Stalin didn't get what he wanted, Finland still lost the war

    • @williandarosa5485
      @williandarosa5485 4 роки тому

      They lost, after 3 months of fighting supplies were running low and with a new experient soviet commander, the soviets were finally breaking through. So they surrendered and ceded lands.

    • @diamondsarenotforever8542
      @diamondsarenotforever8542 2 роки тому +1

      @@Cocakone Finland retained it's independence and freedom. It is a victory.

  • @clashoclan3371
    @clashoclan3371 3 роки тому +7

    At least the Soviets acknowledged Finland's existence.

    • @E5rael
      @E5rael 3 роки тому

      @@eemil.894 Just a reference to the "Finland doesn't exist" memes. :)

    • @Lawh
      @Lawh 3 роки тому

      Soviets dont exist

  • @LivingIronicallyinEurope
    @LivingIronicallyinEurope 4 роки тому +3

    Definitely worth the wait :D

  • @stefandusan9629
    @stefandusan9629 4 роки тому

    Glad to see your channel is still doing well

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you man, thank you for sticking around 😊

  • @balys2
    @balys2 4 роки тому

    I really like these videos! Keep it up. Will you still do mapping?

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому

      Thanks man :)
      No I unfortunately won't, I'll be concentrating on this more serious video format

  • @Cikeb
    @Cikeb 4 роки тому +16

    There is no geographic logic in the term Scandinavia. Denmark isn't part of the Scandinavian peninsula either, while actually a part of northern Finland is. It is, like "the Nordic countries", a political and historical construct (compare the Baltics, Western Europe or Benelux), which has grown less important as a transnational cooperation dimension compared to "the Nordics"-dimension. As good as all cooperation happens in a Nordic context nowadays.
    Also, the early "proto-Finnic cultures" described here might not have spoken a Finnic language, but the genetic heritage is probably real. A lot of mixing has happened over the thousands of years. Although isolated compared to the rest of Europe, people did arrive in what was to become Finland too. Borrowed words from proto-germanic (way before Swedish became a factor) and the proto-baltic languages tell of this connection.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +10

      People often confuse the geographic and political/cultural terms. Here is the summary:
      Scandinavian peninsula (geographic)
      - Norway
      - Sweden,
      - the North-Western tip of Finland
      Fennoscandia (geographic)
      - Norway
      - Sweden
      - Finland
      - East Karelia (Russia)
      - the Kola Peninsula (Russia)
      Scandinavia (cultural)
      - Norway
      - Sweden
      - Denmark
      The Nordic countries/the Nordics (cultural, political)
      - Norway
      - Sweden
      - Denmark
      - Finland
      - Iceland

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +5

      @@timoterava7108 Fennoscandinavia is also a geological area. We share a distinct bedrock from the rest of the Europe, formed mostly of granite and gneiss.

  • @GeographyWorld
    @GeographyWorld 4 роки тому +4

    Interesting video. Hello from a new subscriber from Ireland!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much for the support and for being here :)

  • @giorgi2702
    @giorgi2702 3 роки тому

    I just found your channel because you commented on another video! I love your channel. :) You should make a video about the country of Georgia!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  3 роки тому

      Im really glad you enjoyed the video :) Ill see what I can do in the future

  • @Jokakutihut1
    @Jokakutihut1 4 роки тому

    That was very well made. keep the videos coming

  • @Sipu97
    @Sipu97 4 роки тому +6

    Was about to get very triggered and ready to let you know when Finland was called a Scandinavian country, but that solved itself.

  • @piippopaska6467
    @piippopaska6467 4 роки тому +92

    There is one Finnish saying that still pops up in some times. ''Sweden will fight to the last Finn'' Meaning to us Finnish
    People that Sweden will tax shit out off you, and use you'r People to fight on Swedish wars like an meat shield.

    • @cassu6
      @cassu6 4 роки тому +27

      Blåbärspaj _ I find it quite interesting how Sweden stopped warring after they lost Finland.

    • @piippopaska6467
      @piippopaska6467 4 роки тому +16

      @@blabarspaj_3381 that was then and now is now and future is mystery .at now
      Finnish army and Swedish army are doing some great cooperation in trying to maintain Nordic way of living and their independence. that i would like to see future as well
      ua-cam.com/video/L8rGyWSC0O4/v-deo.html

    • @grateug6887
      @grateug6887 4 роки тому +3

      Trapped In A Bagel We took Norway after we lost you though

    • @iirowiik2855
      @iirowiik2855 4 роки тому +6

      @@finnishwehraboo8377 😆😆

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +7

      @@grateug6887" You" didn't "take" Norway - it was given. Google it.

  • @pillivonwaldemar5993
    @pillivonwaldemar5993 4 роки тому

    anyone else have this problem that i only hear sounds on my left cup if i use my headphone? yes i check my headphone that they work and they work normally in other videos but this videos only left cup works???

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому

      Yes its a mistake with the video, the first track is broken and plays only on one ear... Sorry for that.

  • @pietarisorsa153
    @pietarisorsa153 4 роки тому +5

    Fun fact : During WW2 Finland was first friendly with the axis powers who helped them during the continuation war and the they allied with the allied forces to push the axis powers out of lapland.

    • @greeneyedwolfen9866
      @greeneyedwolfen9866 4 роки тому

      When you think about it. We technicly stabed them in the back. Witch would explain why they burned the houses on Lapland down. Before they where pushed back to Norway.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +4

      Finland's political manouvering still spared the country from the catastrophy that befell on Eastern Europe.

    • @jarskil8862
      @jarskil8862 4 роки тому +4

      We werent allied with Soviets.
      We were forced to attack Germany after defeat in Continuation war.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 роки тому +3

      You forgot the Winter War, during which the soviets were allied with Germany.

  • @Banaaniapina692
    @Banaaniapina692 4 роки тому +36

    Thank you for talking about the greater wrath. It is really important part of history for some regions (like mine). It doesnt get mentioned much prob due to the lack of translations to english. Whole villages were killed and enslaved by the Russians. Dark times.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +8

      One could say that during Greater wrath the Finnish general population first painfully realized that they actually weren't the same country with the western half of the realm.

  • @filthycasualgaming9715
    @filthycasualgaming9715 4 роки тому +12

    You forgot to mention the War of Lapland :)

    • @tmas47
      @tmas47 4 роки тому +1

      Part of Continuation War

    • @Pnaraasi94
      @Pnaraasi94 3 роки тому +1

      @@tmas47 But since it was against Germany and not the Soviets it deserves a mention. After all, it makes Finland the only country to successfully fight off both the Soviet Union and Germany during WWII (correct me if I'm wrong).

  • @JuanGarcia-qk3gm
    @JuanGarcia-qk3gm 4 роки тому +2

    The Finnish landscape is one of the most striking in Europe.Finland is 80% covered with thick forest and thousands of lakes.Finland is not as mountainous as its closest neighbors, Norway, Sweden and Russia,but it is stunningly beautiful especially in the Autumn.

  • @romanianpatriot777
    @romanianpatriot777 3 роки тому

    Could you do the History of Romania ? Great work by the way your videos are very good and nice explained !

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  3 роки тому

      Thank you man. Romania will be on my list when I start making videos of 10min histories of countries :)

  • @sebastiantiainen2749
    @sebastiantiainen2749 4 роки тому +20

    The club war wasn't a Finnish uprising, it was a larger wave of peasant uprisings. Also Sweden didn't conquer Finland because there was no Finland to conquer, and the crusades that went to Finland were crusades against Novgorod trying to spread into what today is Finland.
    Österland was as much of a part of Sweden as Svealand, Norrland and Götaland. There were Finns in the swedish parliament and the third university of the Swedish Empire was founded in Finland, the Royal Academy of Turku.
    Österland was a buffer between Russia and Sweden but that was the unfortunate fact of being the border land. Attacks on Österland was still an attack on Sweden. Finns were not exploited in war, they were still citizens of the Swedish empire and were called up to arms as any other citizen.
    The Finnish national identity came about in the 1800's when Nationalism began to spread across Europe. The awakening was first about building Finland up as a nation for the Finns but later became more a counter against the Russian empire, trying to suppress Finns and make Finland an integrated part of the Russian empire.
    What I'm trying to say is that it's unfortunate that the notion of Sweden as an oppressor of Finland still lives on. We were a part of Sweden, not a colony, not a sovereign country in a union with Sweden as some like to claim. We were as much of a part of Sweden as the 19 different regions are a part of Finland today.

    • @SouverG
      @SouverG 4 роки тому +2

      Everything else is right in here and I want to underline in beginning that at that time the cultural influence of Sweden was really important to Österland. But they were exploited by crown, Finnlands dukes and swedish and german nobility. Crown branded Österlands people as primitive and simple, but that is right that Sweden saw Österlanden and it's provinces as part of their core lands. Also they heavily taxed "Finns", but over 50% of the taxes went back to mainland Sweden. Dukes helped crown to enlist Finns before swedish in their wars and use them as meat shield for better trained swedish forces (not to say that your people didn't see success in those wars either). Also native Österland nobility in the beginning moved a side from their places of power to give way to mainland and german nobility. And I'll put this again in the end. I think that swedish sphere of influence was the best choices of spheres that were close that time for evolving from backland area to somethin it is today.

    • @TheSpekkel1
      @TheSpekkel1 4 роки тому +8

      Samalla logiikalla, isoa osaa Afrikan tulevista siirtokunnistakaan ei sanasta sanaan valloitettu, kun siellä oli vain suhteellisen vähälukuisia ryhmittymiä ihmisiä, jotka pitivät tiettyjä alueita koteinaan. Tulipa vain mieleen.

    • @0mgskillz96
      @0mgskillz96 4 роки тому +10

      Sebastian Tiainen so just because there wasnt a country here makes it okay to enforce ones rules and cultures upon them through violence? And no matter how you try to justify the crusades still wont make it right, the US were in Vietnam to stop the spread of communism but ended up killing thousands of civilians and infecting the place with agent orange and other chemicals, its well documented that swedes, norwegians, danes and even germans all participated into these violent trips of raiding and conquering to finland which only later got the name ”the northern crusades” so they could save face, the indigenous people lost their rights to fish and farm (ancient moisio farms and fishing grounds of the coastlines immediately transferred to the crown) on the land they had inhabited for thousands of years so of course battling ensued (for example in Tavastia, Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, Eura etc.), in Ostrobothnia the swedes even brought real criminals in to Finland who had no interest in converting people but to war with the finns, a lot of people escaped from Tavastia and Satakunta to the north to get away from these convertings and to save their culture, after the last crusade in Karelia, the full on colonization and systematic destroying of our culture began, all our ancient rituals and gods were associated with the devil so through shame finns could be integrated (Perkele was changed from ancient god of thunder to the devil, coincidence?), practicing of ancient religions was made illegal in the 1600s but through smuggling/trafficking of pagan books these traditions lived on secretly, also in 1622 the law was passed that if a finn didnt want to speak swedish or go to church, he could be killed, where is the equality?
      I agree we were an important piece of land to the crown and a big factor in Sweden becoming a superpower, since they got a huge chunk of their resources (taxation) and soldiers from here, but the swedish elite never really cared about the people of Finland, finns were seen as expendables and were thrown as meatshields on to the battlefield during wartimes, battles against novgorod ensued on finnish grounds with big portions of the armies on both sides being finns, also Swedish kings and nobles never visited Finland and the crown inheriter Aadolf Fredrik admitted in the year 1746 that ”we were only swedens storage and buffer zone”, and since the beginning our language and culture was deemed inferior to those of swedish and german origin, swedish/germanic racial pseudosciences (such as phrenology) and eugenics targeted finns and other finno-ugrics heavily which affected our image to the rest of the world negatively (swedish racial studies about the ”superior germanic race” were later on copied by Adolf Hitler but originally they were used to justify the exploitation of ”inferior groups” such as the finno-ugrics, also the first institute of racial biology was in Sweden 1922), even up to the era of russian rule when Svecomans were trying to stop finnish independence in fear of losing their status in society, their political party RKP (which is still in parliament) used to spread racist rhetoric about us to undermine us, (also even after our independence and during WW2, our governments ”ruotsalaispykälä/swedish segment” favored finnish-swedes over those karelian refugees who lost their homes in the war), so becoming apart of swedish government back then was impossible unless you were a finnish-swede (descendant of swedish crusaders who settled on the finnish coast)
      And yes its true, we didnt have a ”finnish” identity but all these different tribes that inhabited finland and that later on became the finnish people had identities thats thousands of years older than the swedes themselves, before they were destroyed..

    • @AS-bu9rw
      @AS-bu9rw 4 роки тому +1

      Oli ne Venäläiset parempia kuitenkin.

    • @Vamutus
      @Vamutus 4 роки тому

      Typical fennomanic garbage.. under swedish rule our land would still be exploited. Your arguments are on par with the colonial idea of "White mans burden".

  • @PetriW
    @PetriW 4 роки тому +24

    Why you didnt talk About Hakkapeliitta?

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +10

      Had to oversimplify and pack everything into 15mins

    • @sebastiantiainen2749
      @sebastiantiainen2749 4 роки тому +9

      Because the Hakkapeliittas were just a Swedish cavalry unit in the 1600's who were elevated to the almost mythical level during the 1800's as a part of the Finnish nationalistic awakening. I'm not saying that they weren't brave and good soldier but they were ultimately just a small part of the Swedish war machine.

  • @Brodorbis
    @Brodorbis 4 роки тому

    On your 500 subs special, can you reupload the files?

  • @elementalic1520
    @elementalic1520 4 роки тому

    Excellent video! As a Finn I appreciate this video. It was great even with some incorrect sayings and little lack of important events.

  • @Volume_Halome
    @Volume_Halome 4 роки тому +5

    Great to see someone paying attention to fact that we went through a civil war.

  • @gayfrog6188
    @gayfrog6188 4 роки тому +16

    i am from finland and i really didn't know that uk decleared war against us. i believe we never learned about that in school at least i don't remember and history was one of my favorite subjects specially ww2

    • @gayfrog6188
      @gayfrog6188 4 роки тому +1

      @@sense8151 oon kuunnellu historia on yks lempi aineista ja todistuksessa on aina ollu 10 mutta ei mitää muistikuvaa että meille ois siitä kerrottu

    • @saaga2235
      @saaga2235 4 роки тому +3

      Meille kerrottiin jo yläasteella ja lukiossakin moneen otteeseen. Ehkä opet ei kokeneet sitä tärkeäksi kun mitään virallisia sotatoimia ei käyty.

    • @ZanzaPlayz
      @ZanzaPlayz 4 роки тому

      @Nationalistic FINN no siis ku oltii natsien kaa ni uk tietenki julisti sodan suomee vastaa

  • @rokashahaq2023
    @rokashahaq2023 4 роки тому +1

    great video. would love you do video about lithuania in the future.

  • @dorkfish1275
    @dorkfish1275 4 роки тому +2

    What a wonderful video to watch to calm my nerves.

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +1

      The music does it's work doesn't it :D

    • @dorkfish1275
      @dorkfish1275 4 роки тому +2

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ the other parts of the video aren't hurting either.

  • @tedjohansson129
    @tedjohansson129 4 роки тому +5

    The last war sweden fought was with norway, arter they refused swedish rule after the napolianic wars. Not with russia. Why Wuld you say that?

  • @valen23arg
    @valen23arg 4 роки тому +5

    I love these types of vids
    Wish u did one about my country, but that will never happen lol

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому

      I'm gla you like them :)
      What country is it?

    • @valen23arg
      @valen23arg 4 роки тому

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ argentina🇦🇷

    • @leoliver4288
      @leoliver4288 4 роки тому

      What a gay country

    • @valen23arg
      @valen23arg 4 роки тому

      @@leoliver4288 are you british?

    • @jonzka98
      @jonzka98 4 роки тому

      @@leoliver4288 oikees oot

  • @Pataassa
    @Pataassa 6 місяців тому +2

    Funerals for war heroes of the Winter War are still held in Finland even today. Deliveries are still coming regularly. Russia last handed over 40 winter war heroes found on the ground to Finland yesterday, on November 4, 2023. Or their remains. In the next few days, there will be funerals for 40 different families in Finland again, when these heroes will be escorted to their final resting place with the defense forces in the home country. History is not at all as far away as it may seem. Finnish history is still a part of Finns' lives, in many different ways.

  • @yl95
    @yl95 3 роки тому +2

    Informative inspiring video

  • @paskapaavo
    @paskapaavo 4 роки тому +3

    I'm finnish, but when watched video and noticed how much there has been war and fighting in Finland history. 😯 Even after so many years finally got independence there started civil war. 😕

  • @ievgeni.fesenko5636
    @ievgeni.fesenko5636 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting! Thank you for sharing! Greetings from Ukraine 🇺🇦🇪🇺

  • @serbslav6519
    @serbslav6519 4 роки тому +1

    Finnaly new video do you have discord

  • @basura4136
    @basura4136 4 роки тому +1

    Discord?

  • @turskanperkele188
    @turskanperkele188 4 роки тому +13

    Little-known fact: the earliest writings about Finland go way more Back than The Swedish crusades. In old Norwegian writings Finland is mentioned multiple times, for example about the ancient Finnish kings. It's debatable wether these point to tribes or more or less organized prehistoric society, though it's certain Finland has way richer and deeper history than commonly known. According to some writings, it is believed that the Nordic ancient Kings actually descend from these Finnish kings. Sadly this history is not taught in schools or aknowleged by some of the history people at all, but it still doesn't change the fact that there is A deep uncovered history of us which deserves to be revealed.

    • @samuelskogqvist5565
      @samuelskogqvist5565 4 роки тому +2

      Bruh you finns literally try to claim that everything swedish is finnish, from military marches to the rulers of proto sweden

    • @Chokwik
      @Chokwik 4 роки тому +7

      @@samuelskogqvist5565 wouln't claim anything we have no reason for.. i have no idea what marches you mentioned, don't really care about them, but those ancestries are from the old sagas that your ancestors and their cousins have written down.. we finns are not taught any of that, only Church history from conquerors' point of view

    • @calbackk
      @calbackk 4 роки тому

      Interesting. What are these "Norwegian writings " you refer to?

    • @simo8191
      @simo8191 4 роки тому +3

      @@calbackk he is propably talkin about saxo grammaticus and snorri sturlusson's sagas(Fundinn Noregr)atleast and then there were third, it was saga by bardr lumitunturinharju about fornjótr or something.
      Old myths...

    • @turskanperkele188
      @turskanperkele188 4 роки тому

      @@simo8191 Exactly

  • @dalecarlia208
    @dalecarlia208 4 роки тому +3

    This was wonderfully executed. You should do more videos like this for nations that like Finland, aren’t very well known

  • @chubbyboi3027
    @chubbyboi3027 4 роки тому

    Amzing video and music on point too👌

  • @ivo0575
    @ivo0575 4 роки тому +1

    I started wondering why weren't you uploading any video

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому

      If you followed me on instagram you'd see that I've been actively working on this for way too long

    • @ivo0575
      @ivo0575 4 роки тому

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ no I wasn't following you oof
      Now I am don't worry :D

  • @vjollila96
    @vjollila96 4 роки тому +9

    Says heavy "heavy metal" shows Lordi. Is'nt that kinda tame for heavy metal? They are more like hard rock to me which is fine

  • @lmjp1623
    @lmjp1623 4 роки тому +6

    In years 1100-1200 finns were last pagans of the nordic countries, they were simply asked by crusaders ''sword or cross'' And made ''Perkele'' ( God of Thunder) calling name for the devil.

    • @sebastiantiainen2749
      @sebastiantiainen2749 4 роки тому +4

      Most became Christians by choice, not because they were forced. The crusades into Finland weren't crusades against Finns but against Novgorod trying to spread orthodoxy from the east.

    • @alainerookkitsunev5605
      @alainerookkitsunev5605 4 роки тому +5

      @@sebastiantiainen2749 Hahahaahahhahah!!! Christians by choice and peace! What a load of crap. Maybe do some of your own research and not just trust what your pastor tells you...

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 роки тому +1

      @@sebastiantiainen2749 Tavastians didn't go down easy during the second crusade tho.

    • @samuelskogqvist5565
      @samuelskogqvist5565 4 роки тому +1

      Can we all just agree that christianity destroyed both swedish and finnish cultures and traditions?

  • @mikkouusimaa1795
    @mikkouusimaa1795 4 роки тому

    Is that europa universalis 4 music I hear in the background?

  • @HydraMann
    @HydraMann 4 роки тому

    Epic could you do Ireland next?

  • @Daniel-jm7ts
    @Daniel-jm7ts 4 роки тому +3

    Could you please do the history of Hungary? Most Europeans don't know anything about Hungary but it is a very interresting country

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 роки тому +2

      I find Hungary extremely interesting myself too...might consider that as a video idea :D

    • @cassu6
      @cassu6 4 роки тому

      • Daniel would be very interesting! Only thing I know about Hungary is their participation in WW2 (Horthy’s government) and some bits about them during the Cold War. I also know about Arpad (don’t remember what special letter are in his name) and how he lead the Hungarian people to the Carpathian basin.

  • @tinyupes
    @tinyupes 4 роки тому +5

    yay finally!!!!!!

  • @Suomalia2100
    @Suomalia2100 4 роки тому +2

    I thought that the first mention of Finns was by the Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus in 98 AD. He described people the Romans called "Fenni".
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenni

  • @Just_Alex5
    @Just_Alex5 4 роки тому +2

    *Super video, samo tako nastavi!*

  • @lehtokurppa7824
    @lehtokurppa7824 4 роки тому +12

    The war of Finland's real motive was the land embargo enforced by Napoleon against the Brits. All but the Swedes agreed to it, so Napoleon ordered his then ally Russia to attack Sweden to force it to stop the trade to Britain. Russia did this, but decided to take the entirety of Finland, since Russia knew the alliance with Napoleon was just temporary, and if Napoleon managed to convince Sweden to join it's attack of Russia, Finland would serve as a buffer for Russia.

    • @samuelskogqvist5565
      @samuelskogqvist5565 4 роки тому

      This youtuber got so many things wrong and it's annoying that people just takes what he says for granted.

  • @ketsuppi
    @ketsuppi 4 роки тому +10

    7:50 Helsinki wasn’t yhe capitol that time it had only few hundred people living there. Turku was the capitol of the finland that time. Helsinki became the capital of finland when finland was given to russia in 1809.

  • @spirosgreek1171
    @spirosgreek1171 4 роки тому +1

    can you do a video about greece please?

  • @laiskapyykki
    @laiskapyykki 4 роки тому +1

    Tavastia was(and is) called Häme btw. :) I live in the middle of Häme, very old history is visible here.