My mother and her parents lived in Yorkshire during WW2. While they were visiting a friend's house, they heard Lord Haw Haw's voice in the next room. But it wasn't him. And it wasn't the radio. It was their friend's African Grey Parrot. Even the bloody parrot listened to Lord Haw Haw!
roared with laughter on reading the parrot mimicked lord haw haw so well he fooled the family into thinking they were listening to the real thing, bet their expressions were priceless when they realized the truth
@@irenabevans3411 Apparently the parrot at that friend's house got them into trouble when he was able to fool a road work team into thinking they'd heard the 12:00 lunch whistle at only 11:45 on their third day rebuilding the roadway out front.
Hahaha....this reminded me of our own African Grey parrot named Jo Jo....when I was about 10yrs old my mum would always be asking me to "put the kettle on Frank". ....yeah you guessed it...Jo Jo learnt to say it in my mums voice!...I was forever putting the kettle on to make mum a cup of tea....I wish they was both still here, to hear it once more...👍🏻
@@aughawillen. I pity the people during world war 2, alls they had to listen to for entertainment on the wireless was a drunken Irishman lord haw haw and a drunken Englishman Winston Churchill..
I have no doubt that Lord Haw Haw was an unpleasant character and brought it upon himself however on the flip side you have the Japanese Emperor, Hirohito, walking away unscathed and continuing to rule!
Those responsible for the crimes of the Japanese unit 731 were also not prosecuted because the Americans were interested in their knowledge. William Joyce was an American citizen of Irish descent, so he could not commit high treason against the United Kingdom. N. b .: By contrast, Norman Baillie-Stewart was an Englishman and a former officer and was only sentenced to five years in prison.
@@herosstratos That's why I have little respect for the scumbag "generals" who served in the Pacific. THEY are the reason these monsters got away with so many crimes. PS: Fuck Dugout Macarthur. I'd piss on his grave if I could. He did that and more to the men who perished in P.O.W. camps and in room 731.
@@herosstratos they could've "exctracted" the knowledge from these monsters, with various inventive ways, then dispose of them as the scumbags they were. I read, some time ago, that the NKVD employed this method on some captured japanese "scientists" they've caught, don't know how real was
@@zinziberi Well the Britain is on its way to a full Glasgow smile lol, you are but a rump of the empire you once wore, Scotland, Wales and Norther Ireland will dump you soon.
@@luisromanlegionaire Scotland would be hard pressed to prosper independently they struggle as it is, there is not a healthy infrastructure in place. Especially at the moment with Nicola sturgeon running things (into the ground) and with her lack of care for half the population (women) it’s only going to get worse.
@Robert Stallard Whilst I agree with you in general about not wasting useful skills, I would have some hesitation in using the "research" carried out by the Auschwitz doctors, or by Unit 731 in China (although the Allies undoubtedly did make use of it).
My late grandfather, Ralph George Goffin, was works manager at Shorts' at Hoo, near Rochester, England. When Lord Haw-Haw came on the radio, all work stopped, and everybody listened. Apparently, the laughter could be heard outside the factory, with the doors shut. His humour was a real tonic! He should have been given a medal, for services to the British war effort.
Im 45 years old and when my gran was alive she told me that it was like a radio comedy. Everybody gathered round listening to the idiot. My grandad said he had never heard him, but he was stomping through france at the time slowly and thankfully making his way to germany. I asked him about that time but he declined to talk about it. He left me his 2 medals when he died. Nice guy, every time he was in the garden alone I always thought he had been crying. Now I'm older I understand it.
@@aughawillen look he was an old fool, he was a traitor to England and Ireland, probably the world, but the clever people just laughed at him, and proper order…
For those sputtering "But he was Irish!!" he worked with the British Army during their war of independence, hung out with the Black and Tans, and did not support Irish independence. He may well have claimed it when it was convenient to him, but I hardly think the people of the Irish Republic are in a great hurry to claim him as one of them done wrong by Britain.
@@alankirby1353 Correct Sir, he was indeed born in America in 1906. Father was Irish his mother English, born in Lancashire although she came from an Anglo Irish family, both parents strong Unionists.
Certainly quite a few scientists and engineers got transported to USA .... even a Japanese scientist who worked on their nerve gasses and other biological substances got to America ... USA so wanted to be ahead of the rest of the world weapons wise it turned a massive blind eye....
This is what he would get today. A person convicted of treason is liable to imprisonment for life or for any shorter term.[61] A whole life tariff may be imposed for the gravest offences.[62] (See Life imprisonment in England and Wales for more details). The verdict seems apt but Joyce's sentence may seem harsh by our standards.
It must suck the moment you realize you've chosen the wrong side of history and you get that uneasy feeling in your stomach and that's as good as it gets and it won't ever be that good again.
If you choose oppression and hatred over freedom and compassion, you’re already a loser. Choosing to spend his time trying to frighten people in war time shows Joyce was a cowardly twit to start with.
I knew one of the soldiers who arrested Joyce. He reached conscription age just as WW11 ended and was posted to Flensburg to help manage the return home of the large German army that had been stationed in Denmark. That was because he was quite fluent in German, he'd concentrated on that in his last years at school. In his version (in his old age) one of his unit recognised Joyce at once and shot at him to stop him getting away. My friend later served in Malaya and came very close to getting killed there.
Assuming verifiable veracity of any of the stories you claim your friend told you, of what relevance are they in this context?! Exactly how did your friend "come very close to getting killed"?! As evidenced by several survivors from Hiroshima, even being in the immediate vicinity of a nuclear explosion does not mean one was 'close to being killed'. It simply means one's physical safety was in jeopardy with a possible extreme end result being one's death. Everyone in a war zone is equally 'close to being killed'. That's the very nature of a war zone. The overly dramatic statement 'I/he/she/it was nearly killed' is nonsensical.
@@jpbsv Aaaaah... the REAL historian has made an appearance. "Screw the academic who does research!" he cries. "I can prove without proof that history is lies and only I can enlighten you!" Yeah. Screw actual historians. They pay money for the title, "Doctor," so you know you can't trust them. How much did he pay for those two consonants before his name? Why put up with the expensive, corrupt consonants when you can get the real unvarnished, unresearched truth from a couple of free random consonants in UA-cam comments?
@@skipdreadman8765 any evidence I upload here is instantly deleted by UA-cam under the guise of "false facts" If the facts are false, why censor them? Since when does truth need to be defended?
@@skipdreadman8765 Hmm... my PhD cost me 9,000 GBP per year in fees (then living expenses on top), but that is because I self funded... so I guess I DID kind of pay for it? So I suppose you could kind of claim that I paid money for the title Dr? Of course, I also did my research, wrote my Thesis, and had to defend my PhD against a panel of experts... but of course, to idiots like the guy you responded to that is unimportant. All made up!!!!
The "Lord Haw-Haw" broadcasts were famous enough to provide the plot for "Sherlock Holmes and The Voice of Terror" (1942) starring Basil Rathbone - one of those wartime Sherlock Holmes films that transplanted the character into contemporary times. Yep, Sherlock Holmes versus Lord Haw-Haw was actually a thing in cinemas in 1942, while the real Lord Haw-Haw was still at large. ua-cam.com/video/IfJdSL2HvXs/v-deo.html
An interesting anachronism for sure considering Sherlock Holmes was a19th century character, and if there was a real Sherlock Holmes, he would have been an elderly man.
@@toddholmes4480 LOL!!! Since when has Hollywood et al ever relied on facts? Surely, you have noticed that cowboys usually were wearing clean clothes and never had to use the bathroom. A little boy we knew did not want to wash his hands because cowboys never did! So much for realism in scripted films.
You know, I resented them taking Holmes & pal out of the Victorian/Edwardian era but perhaps that wasn't such a bad thing as it kept them contemporary when the Victorian era was still recent enough as to be embarrassing and hokey. It took until the 1980's and steam punk to make the Victorians seem cool. I know my mom despised Victorian era dark furniture so all her furniture was ugly light barf colored or a mix of colonial with I don't know what. Picture a Sears catalog from 1956 or something. (I was born after the furniture was already dumb-looking)
@@paulaharrisbaca4851 Yep, it's funny how past eras go from being "now" to being deeply unfashionable for a while, then gaining a kind of retro cool. Seems to take about 30 years, and 30 years is generally considered to be a "generation" - so that's probably no coincidence. I remember the steampunk thing suddenly becoming very popular, but I don't think I became aware of it until the early 90s. There must've been an earlier wave of popularity, though, as there were a whole bunch of 50s and 60s films like "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea," "First Men in the Moon," "The Time Machine," (etc.) that were into their Victorian tech - I just don't think anyone had coined a name for the sub-genre yet :)
My Irish born parents fought and suffered against fascism in WWII, my dad in many campaigns, my mam in the blitz; both loathed Lord Haw Haw. They agreed he wasn’t a traitor, and shouldn’t have been hanged - but they were both glad he was.
Because he was Irish, he couldn't have been a traitor to Britain (a foreign country). Hard to feel sympathy for him though. One could argue he was guilty of treason to Ireland by working for the Black and Tans, and should have been hanged decades before.
@@colmlarkin8665 His mother was English, which means de jure citizenship of the UK, so yes, traitor to the UK as well as Ireland. Also he was born BEFORE 1920, when Ireland was still part of the UK, which means again, British Citizenship which means he WAS a traitor to the UK. If Wales was to become an Independent nation tomorrow (which it wouldn't because we don't want it) I would still retain my British Citizenship.... You do not lose it until you either renounce it or the Government removes it, and the latter is actually far rarer than the former....
My Gramps was 26 when the second world war broke out ,and i remember him tell me no one in Britain at the time took Lord Haw How's broadcasts seriously and thought he was sad and pathetic
nicky leighton So he was kind of like Rush Limbaugh? Most people knew he was a real piece of work, then you had those who thought he was a beacon of truth. All it takes is one idiot like either one of these assholes to really mess things up for a country.
@@coldblue9mm It's amazing the harm these people can do. My mother and youngest Half-sister were avid R.L. fans and believed everything he said and based life decisions on his broadcasts. People them R.L. and Haw Haw are dangerous when there are so many non-thinkers listening and believing.
i'd avoid universals if i were you- for very obvious reasons. it was demoralising or what Americans call trash talk, he picked the wrong side and paid for it, which is a form of justice; he lost which is part of the actus reus of crime. men(human beings) will go to any lengths to worship their god Justification, which really is their god or that which is more important to them than anything else at any given moment, and nothing is more vital t o them than justification, without which they cannot worship their other god Blame. what will a man not do for justification? To 'worship' means to value or prize.
@@davidcounter4866 The current set of royals have a lot of German ancestry, mostly from long ago. They haven't actually been German in the sense of nationality or loyalty for a long time.
He was fortunate to make it to the niceties of a trial. Our troops hated him because so much of what he broadcast was aimed to do was to scare the families at home.
I listened to some of his broadcasts , afterwards ,while in conversation with my father. He did a perfect impression of his voice. I broke out laughing. I guessing that was the best tribute to the man.
I was not born in Britain. My parents were overseas when i was born but i have a British passport and have had one all my life. I am therefore British whether i LIKE IT OR NOT. If i chose to do something against the British government then I would be a traitor. It is semantics to talk of wether it was right or wrong to discuss if Lard Haw Haw was a traitor. If you Aline with a country and get a passport of that country then act against it you are a traitor END OF STORY. If you do not want to be a part of a certain country then move and renounce citizenship. Surrender your passport and become a citizen of the country you support.
Sorry for you but this personne did not have a british pass port like you.but he was from Irlande république. I am british and we also did a lot of shit . In fact we did kill a lot of P.O.W. Edward Arckless
@@edwardarckless3112 He obtained a British passport. Learn, read, google it even!!! Before you comment and make yourself look silly. What is with the stupid comment of "we killed a lot of POW"???? State your source , provide proof or evidence. You are British?? not with the spelling of république. That is a french spelling.
@@edwardarckless3112 He got a British passport in 1938 when he was an American citizen, what is with you????? facts and history not to your liking???? What pow were killed by the allies or British.. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
@@edwardarckless3112 Still waiting for your sources , proof or evidence of these alleged POW killings that you dreammed up!! and your acknowledgement you were WRONG about this traitor not having a British passport when he did have one!
@@mkay6089 in thé 1st World War my dad was in France and Belgique hé told me that British Soldats kill prisonniers of war.this Is true Ask thé Ministre of War. In the 2 World War England sent back to Russie p o w a lot jump from that boot to die in the water of South Hampton.so do not tell me that we are wonderfull.Edward Arckless
@@Wife_Mother_Failure How many Brits left the UK to go fight with ISIS and have been allowed back into the country ...? That is just the Tip of the Iceberg if you will ... You might want to have a gander around the internet and gain some facts .. Sweetie
@@fetus2280 she (that "sweetie") probably won't gain anything by having a 'gander', as that requires critical thinking, something Americans aren't capable of
@@walterbrunswick I know ... its far easier to go with the narrative than it is to be a Free Thinking Individual . How times have changed eh ... I remember being taught in school to be Critical, trust but verify, hear both sides, Challenge your preconceived thoughts and bias and look to prove yourself Wrong not Right . Now its assbackwards stupidity . All in under 20 years .. What is Progressive to them is Regressive and Racist to us . Cheers .
@@patrickgleason2066 He held a British passport that he had applied for and obtained. He had lied but for his own purposes. Signed his death warrant himself.
@Blue --Or a job working for the Globalist New World Order. I notice they didn't hang Anthony Blunt ''keeper of the queens pictures''. I wonder how many mens deaths that traitor caused.
Born in America of Irish parents, yet according to their Lordships, a British citizen. A very flimsy 'legal' excuse for a vindictive revenge. If we were to apply the same standards to propaganda today about half of the House of Commons would hang.
Joyce's nationality was based on the British passport he successfully applied for in the 1930s - and twice renewed. Presumably if he'd retained US citizenship he'd have been guilty of treason after America entered the war ?
During the Irish War of Independence 1919-1921 a young William Joyce would go around with the British Crown Forces( most notably the notorious Black & Tans who by today standards committed War crimes)in Co.Galway and point out the safe houses of IRA men on the run and would also spy on Irish Nationalists. He referred to his previous British service at his trial to save himself from the gallows. People in Ireland think he got his just rewards and consider his conduct in Ireland much worse than his propaganda for the Nazi's.
@@bigbird6039 Thank you for your reply. On the surface Ireland was neutral during WW2 but historians due to recent research state that about 70,000 men from southern Ireland joined the British Forces. The previous figure of 50,000 has been questioned. Also thousands of Irish women(would serve as nurses etc) and would work in the UK helping the war effort and also Irishmen emigrated to work in the UK. Also there was thousands of Irishmen and women who would serve in the armed forces of the US,Canada and Australia and New Zealand and also on the Home Front of the aforementioned countries. Irelands stance during WW2 can be accurately described as belligerent neutrality that favoured the Allies. Check out Churchills famous speech in the House of Commons after the war in relation to these Irishmen and the gallantry awards they won.
@@johnroche7541 without a doubt John. My family come from Galway. My grandfather was a labourer ( with his own shovel) , had eleven kids. He saw an opportunity when the war started, and joined the Royal Engineers. He spent the war “ fighting in Jamaica “ brilliant 😀. When the war was over he went home and was treated badly by the authorities. Like many veterans. He re-enlisted into the RE. Eventually the entire family made it to the UK. My Aunt, who was the eldest(now 98yrs) had already independently gone to London as an auxiliary nurse. Even now she says that she misses the Londoners who had nothing but gave her everything. I have Irish ancestry, but consider myself as British through and through. I’m not American 😀😀😀. The British acknowledge without question how much the Irish have been involved, positively, in the shaping of this country. Godbless.
I personally feel he did not kill any body and should have been given a prison term as a lot more people have done far worse than what he he ever did. For instance a lot of Nazi scientist who help to kill British civilians in their thousands with the V2 rockets but their crimes were ignored they were given new identities nice homes well paid jobs in order to learn their rocket propulsion technology. Do you smell the hypocrisy here? The irony here is the British listeners thought of him as a comic kind of a figure Unbeknown to him he actually helped to build moral to hate Nazis Germany more.
@@factorylad5071 Obviously you did not bother to even read why I feel like this. so he is a scumbag I want argue with that. but Nazi scientist killed thousands of British civilians using V2 rockets some how their crime gets ignored and they are given well paid government jobs if you want to kill the devil kill them all and dont leave out the worst ones. other wise it just hypocrisy.
just as in justification- not a particularly attractive god, justification. he he reaped what he sowed and made the mistake of picking the losing side, but he was hanged for treason when he owed no duty of loyalty to England; one cannot betray those to whom one owes nothing.
Wm Joyce spent his childhood in my home of Galway, Ireland and worked with the British army. I am no admirer of his but many, as would I, say that a lengthy jail sentence would have been more appropriate. In 1976 his remains were exhumed and re buried in Bohermore Cemetery, Galway,
@@roberthonan3492 ..Don't know,but I guess you could call him a ,kind of mercenary..when you're getting stick from all sides,you have to compromise...well double agent then,or whatever..I don't know if anyone would be different,under the circumstances
@@TheOnlyElle. The question of guilt as something felt by the conscience as opposed to something assessed by an outside authority...law, courts, etc., is an interesting problem. It appears that not many Nazi mass murderers FELT guilty. Hanah Arendt has written "The Banality of Evil" decades ago. In modern times Gitta Sereny has written extensively on Albert Speer who "knowingly" used slave labor in his munitions production. The human personality is a deep, dark maze that often just cannot know what in actuality it does know. It cannot face itself.
@@grantsmythe8625 I guess the same could be said about the Allied mass murderers, Churchill, Bomber Harris, Roosevelt, Stalin. No guilty feelings while murdering women and children. I guess they all rationalize their actions.
@@TechSavvy. Yes, evidently so. "The Bad Guys are forcing us to do bad things" (or if you prefer, The End Justifies The Means) seems to be a universally used bandaid. Was it General Sherman who said. "War means killing"?
Just because America and Britain were belligerent forces during WW2 you need to realise that not all countries were involved with WW2. There are other countries out there who don't have the same opinion about things as America and Britain. Ireland is a neutral country and was a neutral country during WW2. Thus as an Irish Citizen he was free to do as he liked and even speak to whom he liked.
@@Hope-un5wv Charges specified: 1. William Joyce, on 18 September 1939, and on other days between that day and 29 May 1945, being a person owing allegiance to our Lord the King, and while a war was being carried on by the German Realm against our King, did traitorously adhere to the King's enemies in Germany, by broadcasting propaganda. 2. William Joyce, on 26 September 1940, being a person who owed allegiance as in the other count, adhered to the King's enemies by purporting to become naturalized as a subject of Germany. 3. William Joyce, on 18 September 1939, and on other days between that day and 2 July 1940 [i.e., before Joyce's naturalisation as a German subject], being a person owing allegiance to our Lord the King, and while a war was being carried on by the German Realm against our King, did traitorously adhere to the King's enemies in Germany, by broadcasting propaganda.
@@sce2aux464 your King was responsible for hundreds of thousands of brainwashed souls who died for nothing and the survivors left poverty and came back to poverty and mass unemployment
@@xaverlustig3581 After the millions of true innocents that died in all of the warring countries, this is not even worth a footnote. In the laws of the day he was a traitor. It would not happen today, but neither would terror bombing.
Fortunately for him he was back in Britain and had Albert Pierrepoint as his hangman and not in Germany with the American John C. Woods doing the job….
@@tonybarnes3858 No. Brush up your studies. You seen to be behind. Have you heard of a thing called the internet? It's kind of like Gutenburgs' printing Press 2.0
@UCRDfacvLahAaM0HZMdgTnUQ You know you could validly point out things the Israeli Government has done wrong but you intentionally chose the word "Zionists". Glad you made it easily known what kind of person you are.
Eh, he spoke on the radio. He didn’t kill any Jews, poles or Soviets. Yeah, he sucked, but he didn’t deserve to hang, seeing how he effectively gave him his British citizenship, that was born in America BTW, and grew up in Ireland, and became a German patriot.
William Joyce's last words before his execution: "I am proud to die for my ideals and I am sorry for the sons of Britain who have died without knowing why."
just goes to show Nazism is a religion -if it involves norms or what men call 'morals'(or 'ideals') it is a religion. he was hanged for aiding and abetting Nazis and for treason, although he was Irish, but hanging was too good for him, although i will grant that vengeance is unattractive as a motive.
@@samueljesse2179 America and Britain were allies . He also claimed British citizenship . He was atraitor to both country's. Hes just lucky he lived to see a trial .
Exactly! Had the Nazis won? He would have had no problems with the murder of innocents the same as the Nazis did during the war. They should have special penalties for traitors. Drawn and quartered sounds about right
@@pizza4me298 & how exactly does it 'rule Europe?' & was it worth around 15million axis soldiers deaths, the civilian deaths in over 3 years of near continuous day and night bombing , the firerestorms in their cities & having half the country controlled by another Totalitarian regime ???
@@robertgrey6101 so we’re many other British men and women of importance in government and the royal family who we’re worse than William Joyce hanged for having an opinion you must be some leftist nut job anyway he wasn’t even born in Britain so he shouldn’t have been hanged by the British government judiciary. USA even stated that as well as Ireland 🇮🇪 the British fucked up in hanging him they had no right too.if something happened like that now they’ve been lucky if they got a fine or asbo. Moseley, Edward the viii far worse than Haw Haw.
@@jpbsv in fact I am from German descent and just like to see bad things happen to people who treating it's citizens like fodder. You must be from that disgusting boot licking cult that is going out of style harder than platform shoes.
The second world war was closer than we think and very complicated in terms of ideologies…very blurred hence so many people on different sides…communism looked just as bad as nazism and pretty much proved it was at least as bad…just see the legacy of stalin etc
Stalin actually hugely outnumbered Hitler in terms of sheer “bodycount.” Both were probably eclipsed by Mao. It’s hardly necessary to decide which one of these three monsters is the worst.
@@patrickgleason2066 capitalism has killed way more people than communism. Capitalism is responsible for the enslavement of so many people in Asia and Africa.
he wasnt lol.... he was booted out the BUF. the british union of fascists, not the nazi party lol.... FFS did you even watch the video lol..... the word 'Nazi' is fake news propaganda lol..... The german national socialists never referred to themselves as Nazis lol.....
Both sides did this, Lord Haw Haw wasn't even a UK citizen, he was a US citizen and no reason why he should have been executed. Haw Haw was just a drunken mess by the early 1940's and by 1945 he was physical and mental mess.
@@oveidasinclair982 I've only ever heard a part of one of his broadcasts, but for the part I heard he was absolutely right. He spoke about how the British illegally invaded the republic of the Orange Free State and Transvaal (South Africa, Boer war 1899 - 1902), and were guilty of war crimes by implementing a scorched earth policy and concentration camps for women and children. So I don't know much more than this, but for my part I also believe his execution was revenge, because the UK "writes the rules", especially post war . . .
@@mdk9495 in 1945 the events that happened during Queen Victorias reign in South Africa/Natal/Transvaal were from 'another era' & of little interest to those that were not there ( like Chec-Slovakia was in 1938 to the British).... by 1918 the British even had enough of 'a Hero of South Africa War' ,Winston Churchill..... an example ..A Hs book 'Mein Kamf' from years after The Great War was 'just the Ramblings 'of a lower rank ex -soldier non Historian.....it only became 'what its viewed as now' due to the Author ,I tried reading it over 30 years ago and found it the proverbial 'cure for insomnia..'
@@mdk9495 -also 'Concentration Camps in Boer war' set up by British was something i used to say during my adolescent 'anti Brit phase' ....would that make me a 'Traitor '?......try not to confuse 'Concentration Camp' as said in the film 'Casablanca', a brutal harsh environment for those kept there ,like most prisons & pow 'camps'.& 'Concentration Camp - as a final stop in the line of Genocidal Extermination policy... was Anderson' prison 'better' because it was 'only a POW Camp for Union Soldiers'....the death figures may contradict this .... * playing the 'who did wrong first' card is a game I call 'the endless cul de sac' ( how did 'the Dutch ' get 'Their "free state" etc etcetera )
He was no more a traitor to his country of origin than many of our politicians, journalists and sports figures today. May he rest in peace. I do not support him. I hate the Nazis. But I do not believe he deserved this. Two wrongs do not make a right.
"I hate the Nazis." Really? If you don't believe a Nazi that spread Nazi propaganda contributing to the Holocaust, deserves death, then you clearly do not hate them. Maybe you just find them distasteful?
@@TardyTardigrade We do not know if "Lord Haw Haw" knew all the details of the Nazi crime sat the time he was spreading propaganda. If you are going to say people who spread propaganda of a totalitarian regime deserve death, then be careful for what you wish for. How about Jane Fonda-who spread propaganda for a nation which was in the middle of a shooting war with the United States. How about a host of our elite media who continue to spread propaganda for the Chinese? If we were to hold your standard for everybody, then that hang man is going to be one busy fellow!
@@nolongerjuicyboiz4413 For genocidal maniacs? For Nazis? For pure evil? Not from me, not in this life. Save your empathy and forgiveness for those that need/deserve it.
@@TardyTardigrade the point of forgiveness at least, is that the person you give it to doesn't deserve it. Obviously though, you have no moral obligation to forgive anyone. You can also still hate what they did, but yet forgive them. So someone can give forgiveness or mercy to a nazi, but that doesn't mean they're sympathising with the nazi ideology, or love the crime that was committed. Anyways sorry to get all preachy on you, I personally don't think the lord haw haw thing is a matter of forgiveness, I just think that capital punishment is wrong, and that his execution was wrong.
@@donkeyslayer4661 yes, it amazes me that she got away with that. She can denounce and protest the war all she likes. However actually going to North Vietnam and speaking on their behalf is unforgivable. Once you military is in harm’s way, you back them up or shut up.
judicially correct- or simply lawful, or not, it was motivated by a desire for revenge which has nothing to do with justice, but he had it coming to him, and hanging was too good for him. he reaped what he sowed as do all men. something is vengeful if the motive was a desire for revenge. it is sometimes said that revenge is like drinking rat poison and expecting the rats to die.
Yes, because it's always a brilliant idea to immediately reach for a pocket, or inside of your jacket when being arrested. What could possibly go wrong?
What was vengeful about his execution? He fought for our enemy and just like all the rest of the Brits who helped our enemy, they were caught at the end of the war and brought back to stand trial for their crimes. His punishment was execution for the crimes he committed. That's not vengeance, that's the law!
Nothing “vengeful” about it. He was a traitor during wartime. He assisted the enemy and paid a well deserved price. And BTW Demitrillion - stupid comment.The Brits are not particularly vengeful.
@@giuliakhawaja7929 the punishment did not fit the crime. Lord Ha Ha never sold his country's secrets to the Axis Powers,, nor did he kill anybody. Tokyo Rose was actually an American citizen making propaganda against our own country and allies but we did not execute her.
"Vengeful" simply means "… feeling or showing a desire to harm someone who has harmed you [or someone else]." It does _not_ mean that the prosecution is unjust or the punishment inhumane.¹ All criminal laws are vengeful. The penalty may range from death to revocation of one's library card. Vengefulness most often is just and lawful. The penalty inflicted is usually appropriate.² ――――― ¹ "Vengeful" and "revenge" sound alike, but vengeance can be lawful. Revenge is, by meaning and common use, pretty much never a function of law. ² Any form of capital punishment is inhuman and unjustifiable.
Never understood why Haw Haw was successfully prosecuted and executed while at the same time Mosley’s life was spared and he died of natural death at an advanced age.
Joyce was not executed for being a Nazi but for aiding the enemy in time of war. Mosley stayed in Britain, was interned in 1940 and did not actively aid the enemy. Therefore he couldn’t be tried for treason.
@@christinagiagni3578 You can't commit a crime by give aid and comfort the enemy, when you aren't a citizen of the country accusing you. It's not illegal to have supported or served the Nazis. They're as legitimate as any other nation in the war.
Whatever about Joyce's fascism etc., it is simply a fact that Joyce was not British, he was American/Irish. So while most people would not object to him being executed for his Natzism, it did not make him a traitor to Britain, which was the crime he was hanged for. He wasn't British, so why should he have been executed for supposedly being a traitor to Britain? He certainly was a traitor to Ireland because he acted as an agent for the notorious Black and Tans during Ireland's War of Independence against Britain. That makes him a nasty, reprehensible character but not a traitor to Britain.
@@joegeorge3889 I remember my mother talking about him, as they were always amused by his broadcasts during the war, or the Emergency as it was called in Ireland. They were amused at his references to the British monarchs as: " the stuttering king and the bandy-legged queen". Irish people had no objection to that, as Ireland had suffered greatly under British occupation, but there was no implied sympathy for fascism. So it was generally assumed in Ireland that the British hanged Joyce out of vengeance for his insults towards their monarchy, and British hypocrisy was well understood in Ireland, as it is now.
By using a British passport (fraudulently or not) he had accepted the protection of the British crown but the trade off was that he had in effect given the British monarch his oath of allegiance. As the passport was still valid when he worked for the Nazis and he hadn't formally renounced his right to use it, he was aiding the Kings enemies while enjoying the advantages of one of his subjects which included diplomatic protection. Case closed.
@@justonecornetto80 Again, you are simply repeating the hypocritical justification for his execution. He wasn't British and that is the only pertinent fact. Therefore he was not a traitor to a country to which he did not belong. The rationale used to suggest his fraudulent passport outweighs the reality of his actual nationality is so much nonsense. It is really not believed by anyone outside the belief system surrounding Britain's monarchy. At the time of his execution he was a Nazi and his allegiance was to Germany under Nazism. He was captured in Germany, not in Britain and not as a German spy in Britain. Saying he was a traitor to Britain is nothing more than an excuse for vengeance, and not many people would be too concerned about that, but it is hypocritical.
Look at the people invading UK from France on weekly basis. The HMS Defender might help… I forgot she’s busy sailing off Crimea trying to start war with Russia.
Thanks for posting this history. I can imagine anyone under the age of about sixty wondering, Lord Who? He has disappeared from history, hasn't he? It seems incredible that even in 1946 there were still a few die-hards raising a Nazi salute to him. I can remember accidentally being caught up in a crowd outside Pentonville prison in the fifties when someone was being executed and it was a gruesome feeling, knowing that inside that building someone was being deliberately done to death at the end of a rope, even though I can't feel much sympathy for Haw-Haw.
When the last haging in Glasgow took place some journalists gave the murderer's weeping mother a lift home from the prison and got her talking about him. They took notes and used what she said to boost their paper's circulation the next day. Ghouls love hangings and a lot of us have some ghoul in us.
Most don't know this but b4 televisions ppl would sit around the radio like we do with TVs. I always wondered what that'd feel like, nice to finally see pics of that for the 1st time.
Propaganda isn't only used in times of war. There's plenty of propaganda around today
Watch any news broadcast
Most of it is hilariously bad, but somehow it works 😞
Very very true
constant. Especially about getting vaxxed
@@michaeltaylor8835 Which flavour of that bullshit cake do you prefer?
My mother and her parents lived in Yorkshire during WW2.
While they were visiting a friend's house, they heard Lord Haw Haw's voice in the next room.
But it wasn't him. And it wasn't the radio. It was their friend's African Grey Parrot.
Even the bloody parrot listened to Lord Haw Haw!
HAha I could do with a chuckle!
roared with laughter on reading the parrot mimicked lord haw haw so well he fooled the family into thinking they were listening to the real thing, bet their expressions were priceless when they realized the truth
@@irenabevans3411 Apparently the parrot at that friend's house got them into trouble when he was able to fool a road work team into thinking they'd heard the 12:00 lunch whistle at only 11:45 on their third day rebuilding the roadway out front.
...or so the Germans would have you believe!
Hahaha....this reminded me of our own African Grey parrot named Jo Jo....when I was about 10yrs old my mum would always be asking me to "put the kettle on Frank". ....yeah you guessed it...Jo Jo learnt to say it in my mums voice!...I was forever putting the kettle on to make mum a cup of tea....I wish they was both still here, to hear it once more...👍🏻
I visit an old boy (98) he remembers listening to Lord Haw Haw. He said nobody took him seriously.
someon body did sadly ..he just a lud mouth.. did not need to die
@@aughawillen he fought for england against the irish. What the hell kinda nonsense are you saying?
@@aughawillen You forgot to mention the thousands of Irish men that fought for the UK,i had 3 uncles that fought in the far east.
He was the Sean Hannity/Tucker Carlson of his day!!!
@@aughawillen. I pity the people during world war 2, alls they had to listen to for entertainment on the wireless was a drunken Irishman lord haw haw and a drunken Englishman Winston Churchill..
I have no doubt that Lord Haw Haw was an unpleasant character and brought it upon himself however on the flip side you have the Japanese Emperor, Hirohito, walking away unscathed and continuing to rule!
Those responsible for the crimes of the Japanese unit 731 were also not prosecuted because the Americans were interested in their knowledge.
William Joyce was an American citizen of Irish descent, so he could not commit high treason against the United Kingdom. N. b .: By contrast, Norman Baillie-Stewart was an Englishman and a former officer and was only sentenced to five years in prison.
@@herosstratos That's why I have little respect for the scumbag "generals" who served in the Pacific. THEY are the reason these monsters got away with so many crimes. PS: Fuck Dugout Macarthur. I'd piss on his grave if I could. He did that and more to the men who perished in P.O.W. camps and in room 731.
A truly dreadful human being.he was dealt with correctly.
But the Emperor was merely a war criminal, William Joyce had committed a far graver crime, he was a traitor.
@@herosstratos they could've "exctracted" the knowledge from these monsters, with various inventive ways, then dispose of them as the scumbags they were.
I read, some time ago, that the NKVD employed this method on some captured japanese "scientists" they've caught, don't know how real was
Hard to go undercover when you have a scar from your ear to your mouth.
It's only half of a Glasgow smile, pity they didn't finish for him.
@@zinziberi Well the Britain is on its way to a full Glasgow smile lol, you are but a rump of the empire you once wore, Scotland, Wales and Norther Ireland will dump you soon.
Apparently, he fell from an apple tree when he was a kid living In England.
@@luisromanlegionaire Scotland would be hard pressed to prosper independently they struggle as it is, there is not a healthy infrastructure in place. Especially at the moment with Nicola sturgeon running things (into the ground) and with her lack of care for half the population (women) it’s only going to get worse.
@@fredrickaappletree3402 that's what u call a "MARS BAR"
He just had the wrong job, if he'd been a rocket engineer, under operation paperclip he would have been welcome in America.
Or Russia.
So, another instance of his poor judgment.
Right you are!!! Like von Braun...& others..
The “wrong job” - you are right comrade, if he had the right job he would have been welcomed with open arms in the US or USSR.
@Robert Stallard Whilst I agree with you in general about not wasting useful skills, I would have some hesitation in using the "research" carried out by the Auschwitz doctors, or by Unit 731 in China (although the Allies undoubtedly did make use of it).
I love listening to your historical accounts. Great channel, with great content. Thanks.
My late grandfather, Ralph George Goffin, was works manager at Shorts' at Hoo, near Rochester, England. When Lord Haw-Haw came on the radio, all work stopped, and everybody listened. Apparently, the laughter could be heard outside the factory, with the doors shut. His humour was a real tonic! He should have been given a medal, for services to the British war effort.
Im 45 years old and when my gran was alive she told me that it was like a radio comedy.
Everybody gathered round listening to the idiot.
My grandad said he had never heard him, but he was stomping through france at the time slowly and thankfully making his way to germany.
I asked him about that time but he declined to talk about it.
He left me his 2 medals when he died.
Nice guy, every time he was in the garden alone I always thought he had been crying.
Now I'm older I understand it.
Maybe the execution squad was laughing too.
@@aughawillen I think it was "Germany calling". London calling was The Clash.
@@aughawillen look he was an old fool, he was a traitor to England and Ireland, probably the world, but the clever people just laughed at him, and proper order…
You're all nuts.
But thanks for the fish.
For those sputtering "But he was Irish!!" he worked with the British Army during their war of independence, hung out with the Black and Tans, and did not support Irish independence. He may well have claimed it when it was convenient to him, but I hardly think the people of the Irish Republic are in a great hurry to claim him as one of them done wrong by Britain.
I say he was American. That’s were here was born and his family immigrated to.
@@alankirby1353 Correct Sir, he was indeed born in America in 1906. Father was Irish his mother English, born in Lancashire although she came from an Anglo Irish family, both parents strong Unionists.
@@freddyferret2313. There see, only a unionist could could something like he did, a nationalist never..☘️👍🇮🇪
@@Shane-zx4ps True their all a bit fascist.
@@Shane-zx4ps Didn't Eamonn De Valera offer condolences on Hitler's death..?
Crazy that worse war criminals got off with a slap on the wrist
Stalin comes to mind....
Certainly quite a few scientists and engineers got transported to USA .... even a Japanese scientist who worked on their nerve gasses and other biological substances got to America ... USA so wanted to be ahead of the rest of the world weapons wise it turned a massive blind eye....
But they didn't draw attention to themselves, and were seen as useful to their captors during the cold war.
i was just stating this.. it was wrong
This is what he would get today.
A person convicted of treason is liable to imprisonment for life or for any shorter term.[61] A whole life tariff may be imposed for the gravest offences.[62] (See Life imprisonment in England and Wales for more details).
The verdict seems apt but Joyce's sentence may seem harsh by our standards.
It must suck the moment you realize you've chosen the wrong side of history and you get that uneasy feeling in your stomach and that's as good as it gets and it won't ever be that good again.
If you choose oppression and hatred over freedom and compassion, you’re already a loser. Choosing to spend his time trying to frighten people in war time shows Joyce was a cowardly twit to start with.
@@mindrolling24 things are awesome in the "good guys" world 👍 trust me it is best to keep your head down
@@justinbieberlake5635 You sound like an assassin looking back and saying what the hell did I do?...
@@mindrolling24 Sort of like todays racist brexiteers.
Choose wisely.
My dad said they used to listen to Haw Haw in ww2 and just laugh at it.
Exactly. My parents thought he was laughable!
In this day and age he be head of the BBC by now
I don't think you really know who runs the media.....
Exactly and he is not even as bad a traitor
Lol
No, Fox News
😂😂😂😂
I knew one of the soldiers who arrested Joyce. He reached conscription age just as WW11 ended and was posted to Flensburg to help manage the return home of the large German army that had been stationed in Denmark. That was because he was quite fluent in German, he'd concentrated on that in his last years at school. In his version (in his old age) one of his unit recognised Joyce at once and shot at him to stop him getting away. My friend later served in Malaya and came very close to getting killed there.
World War 11? I must have missed the other nine...
@@misterbonzoid5623 I had a similar thought. CG: It's WW2 or WWII (the II being two of the uppercase letter i, not 1s).
Your friend was a hero! So glad he recognized the POS and shot him!
@@21stcenturyozman20 I sit corrected:-)
Assuming verifiable veracity of any of the stories you claim your friend told you, of what relevance are they in this context?!
Exactly how did your friend "come very close to getting killed"?!
As evidenced by several survivors from Hiroshima, even being in the immediate vicinity of a nuclear explosion does not mean one was 'close to being killed'.
It simply means one's physical safety was in jeopardy with a possible extreme end result being one's death.
Everyone in a war zone is equally 'close to being killed'.
That's the very nature of a war zone.
The overly dramatic statement 'I/he/she/it was nearly killed' is nonsensical.
Words DO have consequences. The hardest lesson I have ever learned is this: Sometimes it's best to keep your big mouth shut!
true, but who does?
Lord Haw Haw broadcasts were truly superb!
Excellent! Thank you for continuing to share these necessary history lessons.
You're not allowed to know the REAL history.
Just this garbage.
@@jpbsv Aaaaah... the REAL historian has made an appearance. "Screw the academic who does research!" he cries. "I can prove without proof that history is lies and only I can enlighten you!"
Yeah. Screw actual historians. They pay money for the title, "Doctor," so you know you can't trust them. How much did he pay for those two consonants before his name? Why put up with the expensive, corrupt consonants when you can get the real unvarnished, unresearched truth from a couple of free random consonants in UA-cam comments?
@@skipdreadman8765 any evidence I upload here is instantly deleted by UA-cam under the guise of "false facts"
If the facts are false, why censor them?
Since when does truth need to be defended?
@@skipdreadman8765 Hmm... my PhD cost me 9,000 GBP per year in fees (then living expenses on top), but that is because I self funded... so I guess I DID kind of pay for it? So I suppose you could kind of claim that I paid money for the title Dr?
Of course, I also did my research, wrote my Thesis, and had to defend my PhD against a panel of experts... but of course, to idiots like the guy you responded to that is unimportant. All made up!!!!
The "Lord Haw-Haw" broadcasts were famous enough to provide the plot for "Sherlock Holmes and The Voice of Terror" (1942) starring Basil Rathbone - one of those wartime Sherlock Holmes films that transplanted the character into contemporary times. Yep, Sherlock Holmes versus Lord Haw-Haw was actually a thing in cinemas in 1942, while the real Lord Haw-Haw was still at large.
ua-cam.com/video/IfJdSL2HvXs/v-deo.html
An interesting anachronism for sure considering Sherlock Holmes was a19th century character, and if there was a real Sherlock Holmes, he would have been an elderly man.
@@toddholmes4480 LOL!!! Since when has Hollywood et al ever relied on facts? Surely, you have noticed that cowboys usually were wearing clean clothes and never had to use the bathroom. A little boy we knew did not want to wash his hands because cowboys never did! So much for realism in scripted films.
Excellent spot.respect
You know, I resented them taking Holmes & pal out of the Victorian/Edwardian era but perhaps that wasn't such a bad thing as it kept them contemporary when the Victorian era was still recent enough as to be embarrassing and hokey. It took until the 1980's and steam punk to make the Victorians seem cool. I know my mom despised Victorian era dark furniture so all her furniture was ugly light barf colored or a mix of colonial with I don't know what. Picture a Sears catalog from 1956 or something. (I was born after the furniture was already dumb-looking)
@@paulaharrisbaca4851 Yep, it's funny how past eras go from being "now" to being deeply unfashionable for a while, then gaining a kind of retro cool. Seems to take about 30 years, and 30 years is generally considered to be a "generation" - so that's probably no coincidence.
I remember the steampunk thing suddenly becoming very popular, but I don't think I became aware of it until the early 90s. There must've been an earlier wave of popularity, though, as there were a whole bunch of 50s and 60s films like "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea," "First Men in the Moon," "The Time Machine," (etc.) that were into their Victorian tech - I just don't think anyone had coined a name for the sub-genre yet :)
My Irish born parents fought and suffered against fascism in WWII, my dad in many campaigns, my mam in the blitz; both loathed Lord Haw Haw. They agreed he wasn’t a traitor, and shouldn’t have been hanged - but they were both glad he was.
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Because he was Irish, he couldn't have been a traitor to Britain (a foreign country). Hard to feel sympathy for him though. One could argue he was guilty of treason to Ireland by working for the Black and Tans, and should have been hanged decades before.
@@colmlarkin8665 His mother was English, which means de jure citizenship of the UK, so yes, traitor to the UK as well as Ireland. Also he was born BEFORE 1920, when Ireland was still part of the UK, which means again, British Citizenship which means he WAS a traitor to the UK.
If Wales was to become an Independent nation tomorrow (which it wouldn't because we don't want it) I would still retain my British Citizenship.... You do not lose it until you either renounce it or the Government removes it, and the latter is actually far rarer than the former....
Why would they fight for their British enemy?
I hope your parents lived long enough to enjoy the Africanization of Ireland!
I remember the film "Twelve o'clock HIgh" had a scene with a Lord Haw Haw radio broadcast, but I didn't realize that he actually existed.
My Gramps was 26 when the second world war broke out ,and i remember him tell me no one in Britain at the time took Lord Haw How's broadcasts seriously and thought he was sad and pathetic
nicky
He may have been seen as sad etc, BUT he was dangerous while drawing breath.
nicky leighton So he was kind of like Rush Limbaugh? Most people knew he was a real piece of work, then you had those who thought he was a beacon of truth. All it takes is one idiot like either one of these assholes to really mess things up for a country.
@@coldblue9mm It's amazing the harm these people can do. My mother and youngest Half-sister were avid R.L. fans and believed everything he said and based life decisions on his broadcasts. People them R.L. and Haw Haw are dangerous when there are so many non-thinkers listening and believing.
i'd avoid universals if i were you- for very obvious reasons. it was demoralising or what Americans call trash talk, he picked the wrong side and paid for it, which is a form of justice; he lost which is part of the actus reus of crime. men(human beings) will go to any lengths to worship their god Justification, which really is their god or that which is more important to them than anything else at any given moment, and nothing is more vital t o them than justification, without which they cannot worship their other god Blame. what will a man not do for justification? To 'worship' means to value or prize.
Your channel is great. You do so much research and bring factual stories to life. I'm 58 and don't recall ever hearing this story. 😊
Didn't you go to school
Must be American.
Unreal story. Heard of him previously. Found ur archival pictures very interesting n informative. Kudos for video. Anticipating next one
What's all your "drivel" pertaining to? Not sure how how you are able to delare this Is "Unreal sory"...Are you another "whacko"
conspiracist??
A traitor in time of war is serious business. This punishment should still be used for passport holders who fight against us with our enemies.
@@theRealBased1492 Thanks for the update Herr Goebbels...
@@theRealBased1492 'Their German brothers'? Can you explain why the Germans were our brothers yet the French, Poles, Dutch, Norwegians etc. weren't?
@@davidcounter4866 The current set of royals have a lot of German ancestry, mostly from long ago. They haven't actually been German in the sense of nationality or loyalty for a long time.
@@richarddyasonihc Hu
@@theRealBased1492 Even in this day and age there is something utterly repugnant about holocaust supporters like you.
He was fortunate to make it to the niceties of a trial. Our troops hated him because so much of what he broadcast was aimed to do was to scare the families at home.
His trial was illegal as he was not British.
Thank you for this piece of history I never knew about , of course I knew of Lord haw haw but not the history behind him
Sadly the manipulation of the masses is still with us today. Albeit nicely dressed up in a BBC suit.
As usual great upload friend. 👍
I watch Holmes (Rathbone) and Watson (Bruce) The Voice of Terror which is based VERY LOOSELY on this guy.
I listened to some of his broadcasts , afterwards ,while in conversation with my father. He did a perfect impression of his voice. I broke out laughing. I guessing that was the best tribute to the man.
Ha ha 😂
I can’t handle the BBC news style cadence and “up” inflection at the end of each sentence.
I was not born in Britain. My parents were overseas when i was born but i have a British passport and have had one all my life. I am therefore British whether i LIKE IT OR NOT. If i chose to do something against the British government then I would be a traitor. It is semantics to talk of wether it was right or wrong to discuss if Lard Haw Haw was a traitor.
If you Aline with a country and get a passport of that country then act against it you are a traitor END OF STORY. If you do not want to be a part of a certain country then move and renounce citizenship. Surrender your passport and become a citizen of the country you support.
Sorry for you but this personne did not have a british pass port like you.but he was from Irlande république. I am british and we also did a lot of shit . In fact we did kill a lot of P.O.W.
Edward Arckless
@@edwardarckless3112 He obtained a British passport. Learn, read, google it even!!!
Before you comment and make yourself look silly.
What is with the stupid comment of "we killed a lot of POW"????
State your source , provide proof or evidence.
You are British?? not with the spelling of république. That is a french spelling.
@@edwardarckless3112 He got a British passport in 1938 when he was an American citizen, what is with you????? facts and history not to your liking????
What pow were killed by the allies or British..
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@@edwardarckless3112 Still waiting for your sources , proof or evidence of these alleged POW killings that you dreammed up!! and your acknowledgement you were WRONG about this traitor not having a British passport when he did have one!
@@mkay6089 in thé 1st World War my dad was in France and Belgique hé told me that British Soldats kill prisonniers of war.this Is true Ask thé Ministre of War. In the 2 World War England sent back to Russie p o w a lot jump from that boot to die in the water of South Hampton.so do not tell me that we are wonderfull.Edward Arckless
In this day and age, we give the traitor a council house and all benefits.
Who? Do tell....bless your heart sweetie
@@Wife_Mother_Failure How many Brits left the UK to go fight with ISIS and have been allowed back into the country ...? That is just the Tip of the Iceberg if you will ... You might want to have a gander around the internet and gain some facts .. Sweetie
@@fetus2280 she (that "sweetie") probably won't gain anything by having a 'gander', as that requires critical thinking, something Americans aren't capable of
The most dangerous traitors nowadays inhabit the Houses of Parliament.
@@walterbrunswick I know ... its far easier to go with the narrative than it is to be a Free Thinking Individual . How times have changed eh ... I remember being taught in school to be Critical, trust but verify, hear both sides, Challenge your preconceived thoughts and bias and look to prove yourself Wrong not Right . Now its assbackwards stupidity . All in under 20 years .. What is Progressive to them is Regressive and Racist to us . Cheers .
Joyce seemed to be more deserving of the nickname “Scarface” than capone, considering the prominent visibility of his scar…
I remember one account that states that is scar burst open after his execution.
@@johnroche7541 It's mentioned in this video.
He certainly had a face for radio.
@@fezhat7096 would have never made it on the silver screen
Great video as always thank you
"Giving comfort to the King's enemies in time of war"
Didn't the former King and brother of the reigning King do the same?
Sounds like Johnson's cabinet...
Sad. If he had done what he did then today he would have got community service.
he would have become an elected Tory MP or US Senator.
Just another killing. It’s lawfulness is questionable. However, in the context of the time, there were much worse losses.
@@patrickgleason2066 He held a British passport that he had applied for and obtained. He had lied but for his own purposes. Signed his death warrant himself.
I see him as a bit of a Farage in his time.
@Blue --Or a job working for the Globalist New World Order. I notice they didn't hang Anthony Blunt ''keeper of the queens pictures''. I wonder how many mens deaths that traitor caused.
Always such a fascinating stories
My late mother told me that Lord Haw Haw was often listened to and laughed at.
More didn't and acted on his words.
Hence the name.
This was interesting, you totally got my sub my dude 😎❤️
William Joyce, Lord Haw Haw is buried in Bohermore Galway, I found his grave ❤️🍀🇮🇪
Not far from me. Might offer my respects when i have a full bladder
@@willywonka7812 😂
Born in America of Irish parents, yet according to their Lordships, a British citizen. A very flimsy 'legal' excuse for a vindictive revenge. If we were to apply the same standards to propaganda today about half of the House of Commons would hang.
Joyce's nationality was based on the British passport he successfully applied for in the 1930s - and twice renewed.
Presumably if he'd retained US citizenship he'd have been guilty of treason after America entered the war ?
During the Irish War of Independence 1919-1921 a young William Joyce would go around with the British Crown Forces( most notably the notorious Black & Tans who by today standards committed War crimes)in Co.Galway and point out the safe houses of IRA men on the run and would also spy on Irish Nationalists. He referred to his previous British service at his trial to save himself from the gallows. People in Ireland think he got his just rewards and consider his conduct in Ireland much worse than his propaganda for the Nazi's.
@@johnroche7541 of course the Irish would think that as Ireland wasn’t involved in the War. And what he did in Ireland directly involved Irish people.
@@bigbird6039 Thank you for your reply. On the surface Ireland was neutral during WW2 but historians due to recent research state that about 70,000 men from southern Ireland joined the British Forces. The previous figure of 50,000 has been questioned. Also thousands of Irish women(would serve as nurses etc) and would work in the UK helping the war effort and also Irishmen emigrated to work in the UK. Also there was thousands of Irishmen and women who would serve in the armed forces of the US,Canada and Australia and New Zealand and also on the Home Front of the aforementioned countries. Irelands stance during WW2 can be accurately described as belligerent neutrality that favoured the Allies. Check out Churchills famous speech in the House of Commons after the war in relation to these Irishmen and the gallantry awards they won.
@@johnroche7541 without a doubt John. My family come from Galway. My grandfather was a labourer ( with his own shovel) , had eleven kids. He saw an opportunity when the war started, and joined the Royal Engineers. He spent the war “ fighting in Jamaica “ brilliant 😀. When the war was over he went home and was treated badly by the authorities. Like many veterans. He re-enlisted into the RE. Eventually the entire family made it to the UK. My Aunt, who was the eldest(now 98yrs) had already independently gone to London as an auxiliary nurse. Even now she says that she misses the Londoners who had nothing but gave her everything. I have Irish ancestry, but consider myself as British through and through. I’m not American 😀😀😀. The British acknowledge without question how much the Irish have been involved, positively, in the shaping of this country. Godbless.
The British put in a "speed lane" for Lord Haw Haw!
Is it me, or Does the narrators voice really get on your nerves? He finishes every sentence on the same note and it’s really annoying.
@@robskihollands9942 It's very monotone to say the least, and did wind me up a bit.
I felt a bit mean until I read your comment lol.
The title should be "The Rightful & Just Execution of Lord Haw Haw".
I personally feel he did not kill any body and should have been given a prison term as a lot more people have done far worse than what he he ever did. For instance a lot of Nazi scientist who help to kill British civilians in their thousands with the V2 rockets but their crimes were ignored they were given new identities nice homes well paid jobs in order to learn their rocket propulsion technology. Do you smell the hypocrisy here?
The irony here is the British listeners thought of him as a comic kind of a figure Unbeknown to him he actually helped to build moral to hate Nazis Germany more.
@@yell50 I have no feelings for him whatsoever he was a scumbag in life and a scumbag in death what would you want him for? To shame the devil?
@@factorylad5071 Obviously you did not bother to even read why I feel like this. so he is a scumbag I want argue with that. but Nazi scientist killed thousands of British civilians using V2 rockets some how their crime gets ignored and they are given well paid government jobs if you want to kill the devil kill them all and dont leave out the worst ones. other wise it just hypocrisy.
just as in justification- not a particularly attractive god, justification. he he reaped what he sowed and made the mistake of picking the losing side, but he was hanged for treason when he owed no duty of loyalty to England; one cannot betray those to whom one owes nothing.
@@vhawk1951kl I could have not said it any better.
Wm Joyce spent his childhood in my home of Galway, Ireland and worked with the British army. I am no admirer of his but many, as would I, say that a lengthy jail sentence would have been more appropriate. In 1976 his remains were exhumed and re buried in Bohermore Cemetery, Galway,
his remains should have been put in a dumpster.
Then those many would be wrong. He was a Nazi and got off lightly the bastard.
Soooo... the enemy of your enemy is your friend, then. Got it.
@@julieclayton-west624 Exactly! He had no honor, as was displayed by his serving the Crown against the Irish nation.
@@roberthonan3492 ..Don't know,but I guess you could call him a ,kind of mercenary..when you're getting stick from all sides,you have to compromise...well double agent then,or whatever..I don't know if anyone would be different,under the circumstances
His final broadcast is on UA-cam. He’d clearly been drinking heavily.
Probably couldn't cope with His actions when sober..the guilt must of got to Him
@@TheOnlyElle. The question of guilt as something felt by the conscience as opposed to something assessed by an outside authority...law, courts, etc., is an interesting problem. It appears that not many Nazi mass murderers FELT guilty.
Hanah Arendt has written "The Banality of Evil" decades ago. In modern times Gitta Sereny has written extensively on Albert Speer who "knowingly" used slave labor in his munitions production. The human personality is a deep, dark maze that often just cannot know what in actuality it does know. It cannot face itself.
@Insert Name Here LOL!!!
@@grantsmythe8625 I guess the same could be said about the Allied mass murderers, Churchill, Bomber Harris, Roosevelt, Stalin. No guilty feelings while murdering women and children. I guess they all rationalize their actions.
@@TechSavvy. Yes, evidently so. "The Bad Guys are forcing us to do bad things" (or if you prefer, The End Justifies The Means) seems to be a universally used bandaid.
Was it General Sherman who said. "War means killing"?
As he was born in New York, he was an American citizen at birth. If the British couldn't try him as a traitor, America could have.
I'd like to think we would have. God knows he deserved it.
Just because America and Britain were belligerent forces during WW2 you need to realise that not all countries were involved with WW2. There are other countries out there who don't have the same opinion about things as America and Britain. Ireland is a neutral country and was a neutral country during WW2. Thus as an Irish Citizen he was free to do as he liked and even speak to whom he liked.
@@Hope-un5wv
Charges specified:
1. William Joyce, on 18 September 1939, and on other days between that day and 29 May 1945, being a person owing allegiance to our Lord the King, and while a war was being carried on by the German Realm against our King, did traitorously adhere to the King's enemies in Germany, by broadcasting propaganda.
2. William Joyce, on 26 September 1940, being a person who owed allegiance as in the other count, adhered to the King's enemies by purporting to become naturalized as a subject of Germany.
3. William Joyce, on 18 September 1939, and on other days between that day and 2 July 1940 [i.e., before Joyce's naturalisation as a German subject], being a person owing allegiance to our Lord the King, and while a war was being carried on by the German Realm against our King, did traitorously adhere to the King's enemies in Germany, by broadcasting propaganda.
He was an Irish citizen and therefore should not have been executed DeValera being the ultimate coward he always was did nothing
@@sce2aux464 your King was responsible for hundreds of thousands of brainwashed souls who died for nothing and the survivors left poverty and came back to poverty and mass unemployment
TheUntoldPast: ".. propaganda.."
Narcissism: "HEY...I resemble that remark!!"
Maybe the title should be "the hilarious capture of Lord Haw Haw."
Ur going to hell
@@carlosmaya701 We're already there.
Or the capture of the hilarious Lord Haw Haw.
LOL. First real laugh I've had today...
He sported the best "Glasgow smile " ever.
That happens to snitches here.
There was an actor in a couple of the "Thin Man" movies with the exact same scar.
you should have included some of the broadcast here.
Not gonna lie - that scar looks badass
Kinda explains where he got his hate from
Communists did that to him.
It probably reminded the Germans of the duelling scars from student fraternities.
The Skorzeny scar.
It looks like he ran foul of a razor gang, like a few criminals of that era.
Are we supposed to feel sorry for this guy? He knew what he was doing
Even idiots deserve due process. Making silly radio broadcasts isn't a criminal offence.
@@xaverlustig3581 After the millions of true innocents that died in all of the warring countries, this is not even worth a footnote. In the laws of the day he was a traitor. It would not happen today, but neither would terror bombing.
@@barraindymacneil6256 he wanted peace
Agreed 👍.
@@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098 Your comment is irony, correct?
Please show ten more minutes of him lying down looking into space.
That scar looks just like a Schlager cut. Perfect foreshadowing.
I was thinking Glasgow Grin. I think we mean the same thing.
Unfortunately, we are now losing our liberties without a shot fired. What was the point of it all?
think they had it worse back then + they weren't as entitled
Not half as treacherous as what our fearless leaders are pulling on the world these days.
So true.
As bad as the world is today, there isn't one country anywhere near as evil as the Nazis (and Japan for that matter) were.
Fortunately for him he was back in Britain and had Albert Pierrepoint as his hangman and not in Germany with the American John C. Woods doing the job….
Woods was a serial killer in a harness with a leash.
Woods gave them what they deserved.
Or he could have been put in the electric chair, which was how Nazi spies and saboteurs were dealt with in America.
@@maximvsdread1610 Doing what the Nazis had been asking for.
@@tonybarnes3858 No. Brush up your studies. You seen to be behind. Have you heard of a thing called the internet? It's kind of like Gutenburgs' printing Press 2.0
I have no sympathy whatsoever with this man! I´m glad they caught him and his execution was valid in my opinion........
Ha Ha 🤣
DEATH IS BETTER THAN PRISON,, ALMOST ALL LIES EVERYTHING IN WAR.ALL ZIONIST BULLSHIT PROPAGANDISTS NEED SLOWLY STARVED OR PUBLICLY EXECUTED
@@johnham9631 Okay bigoted, prejudiced, Racist
@UCRDfacvLahAaM0HZMdgTnUQ You know you could validly point out things the Israeli Government has done wrong but you intentionally chose the word "Zionists". Glad you made it easily known what kind of person you are.
Eh, he spoke on the radio. He didn’t kill any Jews, poles or Soviets. Yeah, he sucked, but he didn’t deserve to hang, seeing how he effectively gave him his British citizenship, that was born in America BTW, and grew up in Ireland, and became a German patriot.
Evidently The King had the last laugh over “Lord Haw-Haw”
Served the sorry bastard right 👍
And now look at Jolly old England today.
@King Harold Most of the royal family are inbred.
The traitor got what he deserved, vile man.
Read Twilight over England, if you are literate
@@clivelucas5751 what a patronising comment to make, for what reason should I read this?
William Joyce's last words before his execution: "I am proud to die for my ideals and I am sorry for the sons of Britain who have died without knowing why."
just goes to show Nazism is a religion -if it involves norms or what men call 'morals'(or 'ideals') it is a religion. he was hanged for aiding and abetting Nazis and for treason, although he was Irish, but hanging was too good for him, although i will grant that vengeance is unattractive as a motive.
@Betty it said his mother was "Anglo Irish" so he was half British
@Betty Lovely stuff👍
@Betty
American Colonist, Nathan Hale , was hanged by the British in 1776..and he was not even British..
@@sanchezroman8995 Pre-Revolution? Legally he was British. Dura lex, sed lex...
Question: Who was the first POTUS who was a natural born American?
Great work as always!
He was a Traitor and got his just deserts . And it wasn't vengeance . He made his choice and payed the price
That's not true, he was a US citizen therefore the courts in Britain had no constitutional powers over him
@@samueljesse2179 America and Britain were allies . He also claimed British citizenship . He was atraitor to both country's. Hes just lucky he lived to see a trial .
Exactly! Had the Nazis won? He would have had no problems with the murder of innocents the same as the Nazis did during the war. They should have special penalties for traitors. Drawn and quartered sounds about right
@@stephencostello3174 quartering is a wee bit messy . But I'm up for hanging and drawing traitors
That doesnt mean it isnt vengeance, it just means you see the vengeance as justified
That was fascinating. I have just discovered your channel You have a new subscriber.
I would have thought that little blemish Joyce had would have given him away, you know that ear to mouth deep scar !
Yep, massive clue to who he was.. I'm surprised he didn't think to grow a beard to cover it.
l would say there were a lot of soldiers that had war scars on their faces during those times
I guess Lord Haw Haw did not have the last laugh.
Actually he did have the last laugh have you been to London lately? Looks like a💩 hole.
@A Man called Horse
William Joyce went to "HeeHaw Junction", where the people there had the last laugh!
Hee-Haw!
@@shanemiller7697 It’s probably not worse than the situation in Sweden which is approaching full outbreak of civil war day by day.
Two world wars and Germany rules Europe, sounds like the last laugh to me.
@@pizza4me298 & how exactly does it 'rule Europe?' & was it worth around 15million axis soldiers deaths, the civilian deaths in over 3 years of near continuous day and night bombing , the firerestorms in their cities & having half the country controlled by another Totalitarian regime ???
"May Britain be great again.." Wait, that sounds familiar.
Serious
No you've had your day. The good news it's getting worse, you aren't even a proper country anymore. Eire32
A very interesting and informative video thank you 🙏
Thanks for the video !
Excellent video as always. Thank you.
The Brits got the last laugh with Lord Haw Haw.
Actually inadvertently helped morale in Tobruk by referring to them as rats.. no one took him seriously.. except the govt.. a serious case of overkill
Stephen Barnes
Overkill ?? Of who ?? HAW HAW ?? He got what he deserved. He was on the wrong side.
@@robertgrey6101 so we’re many other British men and women of importance in government and the royal family who we’re worse than William Joyce hanged for having an opinion you must be some leftist nut job anyway he wasn’t even born in Britain so he shouldn’t have been hanged by the British government judiciary. USA even stated that as well as Ireland 🇮🇪 the British fucked up in hanging him they had no right too.if something happened like that now they’ve been lucky if they got a fine or asbo. Moseley, Edward the viii far worse than Haw Haw.
These are my favorite stories to fall asleep to.
Ypu must be from that disgusting group of rats they were after.
@@jpbsv in fact I am from German descent and just like to see bad things happen to people who treating it's citizens like fodder. You must be from that disgusting boot licking cult that is going out of style harder than platform shoes.
@@tryhardname I see.
It was people like you that were responsible for bringing about the Balfour declaration.
@@tryhardname why does Germany have a date they refer to as "the stab in the back"?
@@jpbsv probably cause the British were at wars with the ottomans is my best guess. Wasn't there can't tell ya.
Another classy well done and informative video
The second world war was closer than we think and very complicated in terms of ideologies…very blurred hence so many people on different sides…communism looked just as bad as nazism and pretty much proved it was at least as bad…just see the legacy of stalin etc
Stalin actually hugely outnumbered Hitler in terms of sheer “bodycount.” Both were probably eclipsed by Mao.
It’s hardly necessary to decide which one of these three monsters is the worst.
@@patrickgleason2066 Both Stalin and Mao made Hitler look like an amateur.
Hilarious.
Kinda strange that British declared war on Germany after Germany attacked Poland. Then Russia attacks Poland and Britain does not care
@@patrickgleason2066 capitalism has killed way more people than communism. Capitalism is responsible for the enslavement of so many people in Asia and Africa.
Imagine being booted out of the Nazi party, then starting one of your own Nazi party, because the other one wasn’t quiet Nazi enough 😦
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
he wasnt lol.... he was booted out the BUF. the british union of fascists, not the nazi party lol.... FFS did you even watch the video lol..... the word 'Nazi' is fake news propaganda lol..... The german national socialists never referred to themselves as Nazis lol.....
Maybe he didn’t take any lives, but he sure as hell tried his best to destroy our morale.
Both sides did this, Lord Haw Haw wasn't even a UK citizen, he was a US citizen and no reason why he should have been executed. Haw Haw was just a drunken mess by the early 1940's and by 1945 he was physical and mental mess.
@@oveidasinclair982
I've only ever heard a part of one of his broadcasts, but for the part I heard he was absolutely right. He spoke about how the British illegally invaded the republic of the Orange Free State and Transvaal (South Africa, Boer war 1899 - 1902), and were guilty of war crimes by implementing a scorched earth policy and concentration camps for women and children. So I don't know much more than this, but for my part I also believe his execution was revenge, because the UK "writes the rules", especially post war . . .
@@oveidasinclair982 ...yes
@@mdk9495 in 1945 the events that happened during Queen Victorias reign in South Africa/Natal/Transvaal were from 'another era' & of little interest to those that were not there ( like Chec-Slovakia was in 1938 to the British).... by 1918 the British even had enough of 'a Hero of South Africa War' ,Winston Churchill.....
an example ..A Hs book 'Mein Kamf' from years after The Great War was 'just the Ramblings 'of a lower rank ex -soldier non Historian.....it only became 'what its viewed as now' due to the Author ,I tried reading it over 30 years ago and found it the proverbial 'cure for insomnia..'
@@mdk9495 -also 'Concentration Camps in Boer war' set up by British was something i used to say during my adolescent 'anti Brit phase' ....would that make me a 'Traitor '?......try not to confuse 'Concentration Camp' as said in the film 'Casablanca', a brutal harsh environment for those kept there ,like most prisons & pow 'camps'.& 'Concentration Camp - as a final stop in the line of Genocidal Extermination policy... was Anderson' prison 'better' because it was 'only a POW Camp for Union Soldiers'....the death figures may contradict this ....
* playing the 'who did wrong first' card is a game I call 'the endless cul de sac' ( how did 'the Dutch ' get 'Their "free state" etc etcetera )
He was no more a traitor to his country of origin than many of our politicians, journalists and sports figures today. May he rest in peace. I do not support him. I hate the Nazis. But I do not believe he deserved this. Two wrongs do not make a right.
"I hate the Nazis." Really? If you don't believe a Nazi that spread Nazi propaganda contributing to the Holocaust, deserves death, then you clearly do not hate them. Maybe you just find them distasteful?
@@TardyTardigrade We do not know if "Lord Haw Haw" knew all the details of the Nazi crime sat the time he was spreading propaganda. If you are going to say people who spread propaganda of a totalitarian regime deserve death, then be careful for what you wish for. How about Jane Fonda-who spread propaganda for a nation which was in the middle of a shooting war with the United States. How about a host of our elite media who continue to spread propaganda for the Chinese? If we were to hold your standard for everybody, then that hang man is going to be one busy fellow!
@@TardyTardigrade Or maybe there's such a thing as forgiveness and empathy
@@nolongerjuicyboiz4413 For genocidal maniacs? For Nazis? For pure evil? Not from me, not in this life. Save your empathy and forgiveness for those that need/deserve it.
@@TardyTardigrade the point of forgiveness at least, is that the person you give it to doesn't deserve it. Obviously though, you have no moral obligation to forgive anyone. You can also still hate what they did, but yet forgive them. So someone can give forgiveness or mercy to a nazi, but that doesn't mean they're sympathising with the nazi ideology, or love the crime that was committed.
Anyways sorry to get all preachy on you, I personally don't think the lord haw haw thing is a matter of forgiveness, I just think that capital punishment is wrong, and that his execution was wrong.
"we're the good guys, its ok when we do it"
Yeah, thanks, but we've already heard too much of that kind of thinking from Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and the rest of the crowd.
@@leelarson107 yep
Absolutely yes!!!
History is written by the victors
This channel in a nutshell
They went after Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose also.... A good movie with that same theme was Mother Night.
Tokyo Rose was a prisoner of the Japanese and was forced to read their Propaganda to American Troops .
Don't forget Hanoi Jane.
@@donkeyslayer4661 yes, it amazes me that she got away with that. She can denounce and protest the war all she likes. However actually going to North Vietnam and speaking on their behalf is unforgivable. Once you military is in harm’s way, you back them up or shut up.
@@donkeyslayer4661
She did in the time of conflict and sat laughing on an enemy AA gun. Yea, I would say that is treason.
As always, great stuff.
Who the hell are you to decide that this execution was "VENGEFUL"? Why wasn't it judicially correct?
judicially correct- or simply lawful, or not, it was motivated by a desire for revenge which has nothing to do with justice, but he had it coming to him, and hanging was too good for him. he reaped what he sowed as do all men. something is vengeful if the motive was a desire for revenge. it is sometimes said that revenge is like drinking rat poison and expecting the rats to die.
Yes, because it's always a brilliant idea to immediately reach for a pocket, or inside of your jacket when being arrested. What could possibly go wrong?
@TheUntoldPast Keen follower of your channel. Very informative vid but I waited and waited for a sound bite of his voice.
How ironically fitting that he had a snitches scar.
In all honesty Lord Haw Haw did not really deserve to be executed, many more have done far worse!
And got knighted for it, like Blair
If they had not executed him he may have suffered a far more savage ending.
What was vengeful about his execution?
He fought for our enemy and just like all the rest of the Brits who helped our enemy, they were caught at the end of the war and brought back to stand trial for their crimes. His punishment was execution for the crimes he committed. That's not vengeance, that's the law!
British are some vengeful people.
Nothing “vengeful” about it. He was a traitor during wartime. He assisted the enemy and paid a well deserved price.
And BTW Demitrillion - stupid comment.The Brits are not particularly vengeful.
@@giuliakhawaja7929 the punishment did not fit the crime. Lord Ha Ha never sold his country's secrets to the Axis Powers,, nor did he kill anybody. Tokyo Rose was actually an American citizen making propaganda against our own country and allies but we did not execute her.
"Vengeful" simply means "… feeling or showing a desire to harm someone who has harmed you [or someone else]." It does _not_ mean that the prosecution is unjust or the punishment inhumane.¹ All criminal laws are vengeful. The penalty may range from death to revocation of one's library card.
Vengefulness most often is just and lawful. The penalty inflicted is usually appropriate.²
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¹ "Vengeful" and "revenge" sound alike, but vengeance can be lawful. Revenge is, by meaning and common use, pretty much never a function of law.
² Any form of capital punishment is inhuman and unjustifiable.
Cause he didn't have British citizenship when he started working for the Germans. He wasn't a British citizen.
Vengeance can be sweet.
Another great show. Thanks bud.
My mother told me they used to listen to Lord Haw Haw for a laugh. She would do a good impersonation of his "Germany calling Germany calling"
Never understood why Haw Haw was successfully prosecuted and executed while at the same time Mosley’s life was spared and he died of natural death at an advanced age.
Because Mosley was connected with the aristocracy
@@bluenose007 Hardly so. Google the Mosley's wartime imprisonment.
And Wodehouse and his public school, cowardly, Nazi supporting chums who ran from Nazi Germany to US/A
@@tonyves Hardly the same as being executed, old boy. What, what.
Joyce was not executed for being a Nazi but for aiding the enemy in time of war. Mosley stayed in Britain, was interned in 1940 and did not actively aid the enemy. Therefore he couldn’t be tried for treason.
Technically, I would say not a hanging offence but those were tough times.
it's called giving aid and comfort to the enemy...a hanging offence during wartime
@@christinagiagni3578 He wasn't British. This was British state sponsored terrorism, and a war crime by Britain.
@@catlover1986 i don't recollect saying he was a brit.
@@catlover1986 oh well... never mind
@@christinagiagni3578 You can't commit a crime by give aid and comfort the enemy, when you aren't a citizen of the country accusing you.
It's not illegal to have supported or served the Nazis. They're as legitimate as any other nation in the war.
Whatever about Joyce's fascism etc., it is simply a fact that Joyce was not British, he was American/Irish. So while most people would not object to him being executed for his Natzism, it did not make him a traitor to Britain, which was the crime he was hanged for. He wasn't British, so why should he have been executed for supposedly being a traitor to Britain? He certainly was a traitor to Ireland because he acted as an agent for the notorious Black and Tans during Ireland's War of Independence against Britain. That makes him a nasty, reprehensible character but not a traitor to Britain.
The British would never pass up an opportunity for a scapegoat if the propaganda gained from killing one helps them.
I didn't know his background they had no business executing him
@@joegeorge3889 I remember my mother talking about him, as they were always amused by his broadcasts during the war, or the Emergency as it was called in Ireland. They were amused at his references to the British monarchs as: " the stuttering king and the bandy-legged queen". Irish people had no objection to that, as Ireland had suffered greatly under British occupation, but there was no implied sympathy for fascism. So it was generally assumed in Ireland that the British hanged Joyce out of vengeance for his insults towards their monarchy, and British hypocrisy was well understood in Ireland, as it is now.
By using a British passport (fraudulently or not) he had accepted the protection of the British crown but the trade off was that he had in effect given the British monarch his oath of allegiance. As the passport was still valid when he worked for the Nazis and he hadn't formally renounced his right to use it, he was aiding the Kings enemies while enjoying the advantages of one of his subjects which included diplomatic protection. Case closed.
@@justonecornetto80 Again, you are simply repeating the hypocritical justification for his execution. He wasn't British and that is the only pertinent fact. Therefore he was not a traitor to a country to which he did not belong. The rationale used to suggest his fraudulent passport outweighs the reality of his actual nationality is so much nonsense. It is really not believed by anyone outside the belief system surrounding Britain's monarchy. At the time of his execution he was a Nazi and his allegiance was to Germany under Nazism. He was captured in Germany, not in Britain and not as a German spy in Britain. Saying he was a traitor to Britain is nothing more than an excuse for vengeance, and not many people would be too concerned about that, but it is hypocritical.
My dear old nan used to tell me about Lord Haw-Haw and how much she hated him
She was brainwashed.
Famous or Infamous??? Great video.
So, freedom of speech does not apply to all situations.
It never has.
Even at the end of a world war, demonstrators at the prison used the Nazi salute in support, these people have always been amongst us.
We have them here in the US too.
They just would make you take a knee and feel bad for them now.
Look at the people invading UK from France on weekly basis. The HMS Defender might help… I forgot she’s busy sailing off Crimea trying to start war with Russia.
The force was strong in them!!!!
@@Michael_Veritas
Are you going to fly your Spitfire over the dinghies and strafe the women and children?
Asking for a friend...
Thanks for posting this history. I can imagine anyone under the age of about sixty wondering, Lord Who? He has disappeared from history, hasn't he? It seems incredible that even in 1946 there were still a few die-hards raising a Nazi salute to him. I can remember accidentally being caught up in a crowd outside Pentonville prison in the fifties when someone was being executed and it was a gruesome feeling, knowing that inside that building someone was being deliberately done to death at the end of a rope, even though I can't feel much sympathy for Haw-Haw.
When the last haging in Glasgow took place some journalists gave the murderer's weeping mother a lift home from the prison and got her talking about him. They took notes and used what she said to boost their paper's circulation the next day. Ghouls love hangings and a lot of us have some ghoul in us.
He got just what a traitor dev.
Most don't know this but b4 televisions ppl would sit around the radio like we do with TVs.
I always wondered what that'd feel like, nice to finally see pics of that for the 1st time.