Budget sharpening stones- worth it or waste?
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2021
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Sharpening seems to be clouded in mystery for no better reason than the fact that there is so much information available, so much equipment and gadgets and gizmos you “need” to buy, and too many strong opinions on how to get from point A (dull tools) to point B (sharp tools).
But you don’t have to be a wizard or have the fanciest, most expensive setups to get where you need to go. Learn how to sharpen on the cheap with this inexpensive waterstone from Amazon.
Read more about this inexpensive sharpening set up (and links to all the products) on my blog: anneofalltrades.com/blog/inex...
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Great lesson Anne. 👍👏 One little hint. Clinker stones are perfect for dressing the whetstones. The best way to do this is to use an angle grinder to mill a diamond pattern into the clinker. The method with clinker bricks has been used in Germany since the Middle Ages. It just works and the result is perfect.
My father always told me “A good indicator of great character, is seeing how humble someone is, willing to learn from others.”
This ties into your last video of learning how to garden. That and your curiosity to learn.
Thank you! Your dad and mine must have a lot in common, I've heard that from my dad many a time as well :)
When you are able to open your school, I think you will do very well. You're a good teacher and a good learner. Thanks for sharing! 🤠❤🔥⚒
Thank you so much! That means so much to me to hear. I am so excited to get it up and running. What an adventure it's been... and we've only just begun!
This is perfect timing. Last night I just finished hand making a chisel rack for my inexpensive chisels and looked at your video on making a furniture finish to coat it. Now this video will help me get the chisels to their best potential. Always great information in your videos.
Well that makes me smile huge! So glad you're finding them helpful!
Thank you for the video Anne. I have a whole shoe box of dished oil stones that need to be flattened and I have a piece of plate glass and some 150 grit emory cloth. Now I can have a whole shoe box of flat and usable oil stones. Take care, stay well and have a great week.
OMG, I wish someone would have told me this years ago. Thanks Anne.
Really enjoy your channel. Good explanations. I like the options you give people for tools depending on financial commitment. The best part is that you can tell your enjoying what you do. I bought a Tormek T8. Still new to me, but learning from many online videos. Keep up the good work
Another great video Mrs Anne
Thanks Anne!
UA-cam recommended this when I was looking up kitchen knife sharpeners, its so wholesome I'm not even bothered
Ha! Glad to hear it. Sharpening principles are the same no matter what you're sharpening, knives, lawnmower blades or chisels!
Always on point thanks for the great resource!
I always learn something from your sharpening videos. I did buy an angle guide when I first attempted to sharpen my plane blades, but it doesn't work well with my cheap chisels. I need to get brave and attempt it without the guide. Thanks for sharing!
I have those same chisels. I keep them for rough work around the shop. I found them to be remarkably good out of the package (considering the cost), and easy to prepare and sharpen.
Spend another $15, or so, and get a sharpening guide, a fixture to hold the chisel at a fixed angle to the sharpening stone.
Wow that's awesome Anne thank you. This video is so informative and nicely explained. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless.
Thank you! Will do!
Nice video Anne! Thanks for sharing it with us!💖👍😎JP
Good advice. I have gotten to keeping a strop handy at all times. I probably take a few strokes on it every 5 minutes or so with my chisels... then I barely need to touch my stones (unless I do something bone headed with the chisel.)
I've been trying the sandpaper for sharpening my chisels with good results. I need to find or make a good honing tool that will accept the different width of the chisels for easy setup. Good video.
Have. a good day.
thx for this Lesson, great Video. greets from Bavaria
Welcome!
All I can afford is the cheap stuff but cause I learned how to sharpen things, my cheap tools work great. Great video
Great video!
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing this info
My pleasure!
Interesting video Anne.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks! What most sharpening videos lack: how soon will it dull? Good stuff
Great video. Excellent tips. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Glad it was helpful!!
Thumbs up and thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching!
Great video Anne, bet it will help a good few start out on the cheap, good hack using the wet sand to flatten the stone, hadn't thought of that. I've just ordered a TREND 300/1000 diamond stone to be able to work on some old purple heart I was fortunately gifted, it kills the sharpness of any tool so fast it isn't funny. Was using the sandpaper sharpening trick, but that's annoying and costly in the long run and no where as fast or convenient for constantly sharpening, which is a must when working with such hard woods.
FYI, that diamond stone was around $80US earlier this year and has now jumped almost 50% to around $120US, so sad where the world is heading, people taking advantage of this current situation.
yowza! That's a huge jump. Thankfully though, that should last you a good long while.
👍👍👍👍👍thanks
Sorry Anne, when you showed Steve's arms before introducing Steve, I thought, boy you have been out in the sun a lot. Only for a second. Sorry. 😆😘
Love all your videos.
Cheers. 👍🇦🇺
Hahahahha ohhh nooo
Do the cheap bevel guides from Amazon work?
What glasses do you have ?
I believe the grit number is not directly referring to the size, but to the amount of 'grit pellets' covering the surface (probably a square inch or something). If you have less pellets covering the same surface, that means the pellets need to be bigger to fill that surface. And bigger grit means a rougher surface.
Bingo
Thank you! I have the Norton stones and flattener thing so I will check for flatness. Which grit is the stone flattener sandpaper?
1:05 It's 250 grit.
I just started the video again to be 100 percent sure.
I'm just another viewer and a huge fan of Anne's videos, and a beginner in woodworking.
I can only find 180 and 320 grit wet sandpaper in my local hardware store (Denmark) and I asked Anne, and she recommended the 320 grit.
Just in case you get the same problem, and can't find 250 grit.
Stay safe and creative. (y)
/Pia
@@pirakoXX thank you!!!
If you ever get chance, how about a video like this on how to prepare a buffing wheel? I've watched a few tutorials but there don't seem to be many and I've tried combing the fibres and what-have you but, as with sharpening, I copy the process and never seem to end up with anything working out right!!
I don’t actually use a buffing wheel for
Anything, could you clarify what task you’re looking to learn more about?
@@AnneofAllTrades Ha, well in that case, no need to worry then :) Thanks for the reply, I appreciate you taking the time.
I'm confused. So the White side is 6000 grit and the blue side is 1000 grit. You said not to contaminate the 6000 grit with 1000 grit particles. At 6:20 you re-flatten your 6000 grit. Was that the same sandpaper you used the first time? Did you throw out the previous sandpaper and use a new one? Also what kind of adhesive did you use to stick the sandpaper to the "plate" glass? Finally, does the kind of glass matter?
You should have done a test before and after, just to determine how well you sharpened.
Thank you SO much. (Y) Just exactly the info I was looking for.
BUT, I have a question: My local shop has only 2 different grit WET sandpaper; 180 and 320 grit.
They have a 240 grit, but only DRY sandpaper! Which one should I buy/use?
I have a new 1000/6000 wet stone, a new flat and thick (safety)glass shelve - for a fridge -
and I just need the sandpaper and a lot of practice!!
I'm a very new woodworker, (59 years old), and recently I got a set of 4 different size chisels, used, not the cheapest brand, but not flat or sharp at all - if this makes a difference whether I should, or I can, use 180 or 320 grit wet sandpaper??
Greetings from Denmark /Pia
Hey! I'm so glad you're getting into woodworking!! I'd probably get the 320 grit wet sandpaper personally.
Home Depot tends to have a lot of sandpaper choices. For finer grits of wet sandpaper also go to car repair supply stores, or go to the car repair section of some big department stores. I don't know, but I suspect that Anne was waving around 800 or 2000 grit wet sandpaper, for use on that plate glass. 800 grit will make steel quite shiny. 2000 grit, and higher, will get something approaching a mirror finish.
@@jerrybobteasdale Thank you so much.
In the video, they use 250 grit wet sandpaper (on the glass plate), and I was not sure if I should or could go higher or lower than 250.
I live in Denmark, without Home depot, but it's very good advice, that I hadn't thought of, about looking for "car repair" for other grits of wet sandpaper. (y)
I've bought many of my smaller new tools for woodworking online, as it's a lot cheaper to have it sent from USA or China than to buy them in local stores here, and I might order the sandpaper I can't get here (or if it's a lot cheaper) from other countries.
Thank you, stay safe and creative :o)
/Pia
A way cheaper way to go about getting wet dry sandpaper for this application is to get offcuts from car detailers. Incidentally, there's a store on amazon that collects and sells it in super cheap packs. www.amazon.com/shop/anneofalltrades?listId=3A9C8R1GSK4YE&ref=cm_sw_em_r_inf_list_own_anneofalltrades_dp_Fm97d29qjMNHL
@@AnneofAllTrades Thank you SO very, very much!
Just bought a roll of 320 grit (5 ft and 4 inches wide), not top quality, but I'll start using this to practice on my old chisels.
And for sure, also look into if I can make your Amazon ship to Denmark. So far I've only been able to make Amazon UK (England) do so.
Or find local car detailers.
Wish you all a very
Merry Christmas, and a safe and creative New Year!
/Pia
Thanks for the video Anne. I have some chisel heads that were my grandfather’s and have to be well over a hundred years old. I assume they are “good “ steel but is there any way to tell?
I like to sharpen old chisels and chop with them a few times as in this video. That way you know what your chisel is like, not what someone else's opinion is.
@@davidstewart1153 sounds like a plan
What grit sandpaper was used to flatten the stones?
1:05 It's 250 grit (y)
Good Job Anne and Teacher and above all thank you Guys 👏👏👏👌,,,And for the rounded wood chisel ,Throw them in the garbage ?
Repair it and sell it.
Thanks so much! I'm not sure what you mean by rounded chisel, but if it's really badly rounded, you could always "re-grind" it using a low-grit wet-dry sandpaper on your plate glass too. I carefully re-establish the bevel, then sharpen as prescribed.
@@AnneofAllTrades thank you so much Anne👌❤
I have several old and quality sharpening stones I bought at second hand sales. Almost no money. I am looking for a thick piece of plate glass.
A piece of smooth tile also works.
I am glad to see that the ostrich eggshell made it in one piece
It is so incredible! What a gift. So many fun “Easter eggs” on that shell!!
@@AnneofAllTrades your welcome your videos have helped me immensely
@@danielharmanstudio That makes my heart sing. Thank you.
Flattening with the 250 grit paper on the 1000 and 6000 grit stone sides, must surely put 250 grit on both their surfaces. Why is that not a bigger problem than getting 1000 grit on the 6000 side?
The "$11" sharpening set is now $15.99 on Amazon and the sand paper has been unavailable ever since the previous sharpening video where it was mentioned.
I was thinking the same thing. I guess for a flattener you need to remove material from the stones & a courser grit will work faster. But I’m not sure
I don't like using cheap stones, but they usually get the job done.
Doesn't matter much how expensive a stone you use if the tools won't hold an edge. The cheap chisels are fine for occasional home use though. At work I'd rather spend more time chiseling than sharpening. I still have cheap chisels for rough work or if I'm worried about hitting a nail or screw.
Sounds like someone didn’t watch the whole video 😜
I keep cheap chisels to youse in a area where there may be a nail or screw.
Perfect use for them!
u rock
Interesting theory to buy cheap chisels so they need sharpening a lot, so you sharpen a lot, so you learn sharpening quickly. You could also buy super stupid cheap chisels at yard & tag sales, thrift stores, etc that need rehab & get a lot of practice right off the bat.
absolutely! I started a tool restoration business years ago, and that got me PLENTY of practice sharpening. Best lessons I could have gotten really.
being a blacksmith as well as a carpenter I usually make my own tools. but when I do buy cheap tools, I always retemper them. That way I know how hard or sharp they are and how long they will last. I do not recommend this to people who are not skilled at forging.
I never even thought about retempering cheap steel. That is such a fun idea
Where have you been Girl ? Been missing your videos. 🤣
haha oh, you know, underwater basket weaving, milking cows, etc.
@@AnneofAllTrades 🤣🤣🤣 glad to see you're back. Loved this video. Just in time for maybe a video on making Christmas gifts from the heart (in the shop). Or a compilation of past videos on items people could do before Christmas. Just a thought. Have a great Christmas. 😊
The green polishing compound contains chrome oxide. It is not the healthiest stuff to use so I'd wash your hands well after use.
I think the grit number is not really the size of each "stone" but rather tells you the number of "stones" you can squeeze within a specified area, probably a square inch. So the more you can squeeze in that square inch, the smaller they are.
I'm a carpentry Student from germany and I Was told the following: the Stone is shaken through a mesh. The number describes the amount of loops on one inch. So 60 grid is 60x60 loops on a square inch. The higher grids arent really sieved, rather seperated using water and their floating capabilities, but still the same scale is used.
Hope it was coherent, english is obviously not my mother tounge :D
That's a great explanation!
@@AnneofAllTrades thank you so much :) really appreciate it
Never EVER lend your tools to ANYBODY.
IF you get them back, they will be damaged.
Painfull experience teaches you this.
After all these years can you still say you're not super tech savvy?
Hahaha I should let Adam, who occasionally still has to help me check my email, answer that 😂😂 There are some skills I simply don’t *want* to learn 😂
I can take the dullest knife in the world and it will be duller after I get through sharpening it. 😒
We just need to get you some practice!
@00:09 Dear Anne, please don't work so hard outdoors, your hands are not looking so good there.
:-P
Hahaha I’ll do my best 😂