Thank you for someone calling Saban out. Saban has been compensating players under the table for decades. Not to mention other favors. He just hates that every other school can now legally compete on the compensation playing field. We all agree there needs to be more structure around the NIL and portal. But Saban and the SEC are the main reasons we're here now because they never wanted to even start the discussion with fairly compensating the players.
@eugenecaldwell9619 Do you really think an 18 year old living in Cali would say to themselves "you know what, I'm a young talented athlete, I want to move to MOBILE ALABAMA" 😂😂
I’m a hiring manager and I’ll even tell you these college degrees mean VERY little in 2024. That’s been dead for about 10 years. Don’t believe me? Ask most people you meet.
Never meant much..if you had the complexion for the protection. Only difference is now the demand for manpower outweighs the need to maintain the good ol’ boys network.
Savior Saban is the biggest hypocrite and most arrogant person in in collegiate sports. Its not about the new landscape with Saban, its about losing the control and power to manipulate his players like he once did. NIL deals and the transfer portal create a power shift in favor of the players, and Saban has recognized for the last few years that its starting to look a a lot like his NFL tenure regarding control of players.
Lmao Student athlete hasn't existed for decades now, its a professional job in an ameteur settings. Coaches are just getting annoyed that players have more options than ever now to find a situation that they like and that financially suits them. Is it perfect, no however it's much better a situation than it was pre NIL it's time for coaches to adapt accordingly
Yeah it's made it almost impossible for schools that develop talent but don't have the money to keep them around. They don't even get credit for developing them after they're drafted from another school they spent one year at.
If you are saying that college sports(particularly football and basketball) have become professional sports, then what's the use of having the NFL and NBA exist? Professional leagues exist for a reason: for players to play and get paid for it. College players are not in college to get paid. They are absolutely supposed to be there to learn the game. You don't pay high school athletes. Why should we pay college ones?
I agree with Bob. Coaches who make 100x more than the college Professors shouldn’t be complaining about players making money. College sports became a business when Coaches became the highest paid employee in every state, players chasing money it’s just a consequence of that.
My only problem with it is if we are going to continue to pay players, there should be no more football scholarships. That's not right. We're going to allow a star athlete to come to school for free and also make money on NIL deals, while at the same time a pretty good student might not even be able to go that school because they can't afford it. And you're right. It did start with coaches
Nick Saben has said he doesn't have a problem with the players being paid . Rob and Chris just want to paint this narrative. Now the transfer portal he probably doesn't like..
$600 sounds low but how much can they afford to offer? There are over 100 players per Division 1 team with over 100 teams. That's over 6 million dollars and let's not forget that over 95 and maybe even 99% of those players are not going to get any other kind of endorsement deal for anything. If you were a backup on some random team with little to no hope of getting drafted in the NFL, are you going to turn your nose up at $600?
Great commentary from Rob Parker as usual. Nick Saban has always been the most self-serving person in college sports. Always talking the running backs into playing another year and taking another beating in the SEC. Claimed the faster paced, more open game was less safe when the opposite was true. And of course always got paid himself very, very well.
99 percent of those players on the game aren’t even worth 600 dollars. If your the back up tight end at bowling green or the back up free safety at Arkansas state, how much are you really worth? If you say no they can just put you in there with a different number. I would love to see the starting right guard at Wyoming ask for more money.
THANK YOU. I couldn’t have said it any better myself. The players can always say no, and have $600 less and have to buy the game themselves. EA Sports will release the game without that player and be fine. Plus there are probably thousands of CFB players - paying them out and giving that free copy of the game equates to literal millions. And it’s not like the game suddenly becomes so much hotter than before because you can play as Jayden Daniels instead of nameless guy.
Nick saban won a championship in the NIL era and litterally just lost by 3 to Michigan. The game was better than the national championship He’s 72 that’s why he retired
1 and done , straight to NBA did that and I'm not mad about it. I do miss seeing upper class men like Jordan, Ewing, Mourning but that's the way of the times.
No it isn’t messed up. If someone is willing to pay a high school kid millions then so be it. Teenage singers and actors get paid millions. Putting restrictions on athletes pay is DUMB
@@seanguinnit what form do you think it’s scripted? I keep seeing people say sports are scripted and I think that’s giving way too much credit to whoever you think is scripting it. I mean actually think about how hard it would be to script 1 nfl game with everyone involved not getting together and rehearsing all while some players are moving at like 20 mph. If they are scripting it then Hollywood needs to go talk to the nfl because they can barely put together a decent movie with everyone being together on set for 3-6 months. It just doesn’t make any sense when you actually think about it
@@iiRolltide Respectfully, it's always been scripted. We just have communications, broadcasting and social mediums to track and analyze it much better than they can hide it now adays (it's why education and skill set is at an all time premium). I too used to believe that it wasn't and that ppl were haters or lazy or unintelligent enough to understand that, that's how it is. Until I got into Big Money aka Controlling money then certain dots started to click. And honestly that's the operative word: money. If it was just pure competition for glory and honor and bragging rights, then it's best man/woman up. But the moment an advertising, location and gambling check is cashed, things get really bad. To your great example about the players/games being scripted, it isn't that hard when someone is giving you millions of dollars. Think about the last time and offense was whooping a Defense butt and seriously moving the chains and a lineman or DB 'takes' and injury timeout. 99% of the time nothing was wrong, he just needed to buy his teammates 2-5 mins of breathing time and give the DC sometime to think of something else. He isn't Denzel Washington or Daniel Day Lewis but he scripted that hammy/ankle injury and somehow found his way back on the field 10 min later. And it's not just the players. We haven't gotten a solid believable explanation as to why Marshawn Lynch didn't get the ball on that 5 yard line to punch a 2nd SB win against the Pats or why Belichek benched Malcolm Butler ( and if you really believe it was because words were exchanged with Matt Patricia I've got some prime Manhattan real estate to sell you) against the Eagles. And lord knows we don't even have enough hours in the day to talk about the Refs.... As humans, we do have a desire to always know/have an answer for something and this is a risky fallacy that can lead us to believe made up theories to justify a situation with 'logic'...that being shared and examining history, it's becoming harder and harder to ignore both the sense test (eyes, ears, etc) and the analytics for outcomes with respect to variables. As a wise person wrote "It just doesn’t make any sense when you actually think about it"...
As the kids would say FOH Nick. CFB has been all about the $$$ for decades now. Dude just mad NIL took his recruiting leverage away, took his ball and went home. Universities out here making hundreds of millions off these kids backs to pay coaches 90-100 million dollar contracts and he out here complaining now. Comical.
They mad because they can’t rack up 5 stars as 3rd and 4th string players like they used to….other FBS schools want to win and will pay to get some of those top recruits that were going to the same 5 schools….like they said, these kids got options now
Saban has always been a hypocrit. I remember an interview like 10 years ago he did where they were asking him if players deserved any type of compensation and he said " its not like we are out here making millions of dollars off of them....." like literally Saban you were making like 10 mill a year since youve been at Bama. What a POS.
Totally. And remember when he started crying about the more open and the hurry up being less safe. And of course they were more safe than the ultra physical pounding that Saban preferred. And talking the running backs into coming back into the SEC for another year. To take another beating. For nick.
If it's a free market system, why isn't tampering allowed in the NFL and other pro sports? It's a free market system there as well, but tampering is banned, yet it's legal in college. Why? As for comparing coaches to college athletes, that's always been a stupid, lazy comparison. Coaches have contracts that they are bound by, and they have buyouts. You want to put college athletes under binding contract and have buyouts for them as well, then and only then can you compare them. Nobody has a problem with the kids being paid. Tampering is a problem and there are no rules whatsoever.
great points! My argument for the tampering ban at the pro level is that there is a fixed number of teams competing at a small enough scale to control the outcome: Your game changers and household names can only go to 31 other destinations vs 134 (NCAA D1-A schools for Collegiate American Football). That's basically a 10X difference. It's harder for the Sharp sports books to create lines for that level of access. You wouldn't consider your athletic scholarship a binding contract which can be bought out at the Coaches whim (in this context/example)? Not being sarcastic, actually asking for education and civil debate. To me, tampering is only a problem when you have a significant investment at stake and you're sitting at the top. Sr. Developers, Engineers, Lawyers and Med Doctors are always being pitched and recruited by other organizations, with most leaving because the options are more in their favor than the Big Co. they are with. Pro and Student Athletes should have that same freedom
Thought it was unfair/lazu/sloppy journalism for Chris and rob to clearly not know exactly what Saban said. Chris sort of knew and rob had no clue. Saban didn’t say the kids shouldn’t get paid.
As far as the ea sports college football game, nobody cares if the players sign on, that game has always been about dynasty mode which you play with automatically generated fictional players anyway after a few seasons. They could sell the game with completely fictional rosters and it would still fly off the shelf as long as you have the schools in the game
If i was offered $600 amd a free game in college i would be hyped up. Then years down the road you can show your kids you were ok a video game. Youre getting your name and image out there and what are you gonna do say no you cant use my image and name while your a second string OL at Wyoming? The oeople who deserve deals have them. Just another facet of a greedy entitled society. College athletes didnt get paid for 100 years and nobody died and the country was great.
Rob Parker doesn’t like Tom Brady, he doesn’t like Nick Saban, he doesn’t like Lebron James, he doesn’t like Patrick Mahomes. Sensing a theme here? Rob Parker attacks anyone who is head and shoulders above the rest.
I’m an arkansas fan so I hate saban, but in 10 years college football will be a fraction of what isn’t is today. In popularity, product, coaching….it’s not just going to “work itself out”. They released nil as a half baked plan and no fix is in sight
I agree with this for Madden I think the players get like 56K each (which to a lot of them is not that much money relatively speaking) and they're fine with it because they just want to be in the game. 700 for a lot of people in college who are not playing at the next level i'm sure for them to be immortalised in a game would be enough, the top stars could probs get more money same as the NFL but get likeness deals for video game usually works as a collective and not individual
The NCAA system for football does, the actual game we don't know yet as it's been a decade since the last game. EA will make money for sure but how much money do you think they should offer each player from each college school considering its gonna be an even amount for each player most likely @@Joes35
Everyone is right. The coaches are 100% correct in that this system is making things way worse for everyone. The old compensation system was extremely unfair as well. The answer is obvious but politics wont allow it.
If rob knew the history of ncaa college games and how iconic they were, he would realize why they don’t care about the 600. It’s been a long time coming.
I think America has to come to terms with the new reality of college football. It is semi-pro ball. The players today are not student athletes. They are professionals biding their time until they can move into the NFL. Personally, I think college football is wrecked, but we will have to wait and see how bad the damages get. I am not surprised college coaches are leaving and I don't blame them. It is possible that America loves football so much that they will embrace 50 new professional teams at the university level. I would rather see our colleges get back to teaching and educating our young people. Football is not going to make out country great. Education might.
Saban is a Big Ass hypocrite. He left Alabama because he couldn't dangle playing time and a championship ring in front of those 4 and 5 star athletes anymore. That's why he caught the first thing smoking out of Miami. He didn't have any control, which he couldn't handle. He couldn't handle a level playing field.
Rob clearly knows nothing about video games. You have to license the school, mascot and logo from every school. There are WAY more colleges than there are professional teams in any sport. It’s more expensive to license a college game. NCAA rosters are also bigger than NFL rosters. There are even more people you have to cut in with a slice. College Football wasn’t selling that well to begin with or they never would have cancelled it. $600 isn’t an insulting offer. What else are you doing with your video game likeness? There are people who could really use that money, but it’s getting looked down on as an insult? You’re teaching these kids who most won’t make the NFL and will have to get real jobs that they can just show up and expect thousands of dollars just for existing? Bullshit.
Somebody needs to tell Rob and Chris that the college football games don’t make much money. EA is paying 6 mil to get the kids when they honestly didn’t have to. Ppl would play the game anyway. Also, 5k kids have signed up already lol
Coaches are employees under contract they have every right to leave. If you make these kids sign contracts with these nils then they can have the same freedom. But we have unproven kids making money Leaving when they get ready and that’s crazy
@@Sambula3You make it seem crazy that kids are leaving or that unproven kids are making profit. I’m just saying if someone wants to buy their services let them.
@@nicyee3701 it’s called name image and likeness. You haven’t proven anything as an incoming freshman your name means next to nothing monetarily until you prove it on the field. Idc about players getting payed the part yall don’t understand is that for every kid that jumps in the portal to get money and actually get it , it’s literally 100s that jump in and don’t get picked up all together . It’s a broken system you shouldn’t be getting payed before you prove anything and NIL does ZERO for the kids that play but may not be the biggest star on the team
Chip Kelly did not give up his head coaching job to be an assistant in the NFL. He gave it up to be a coordinator at ohio state. C'mon guys. Get your info straight. But I agree about saban. He's always been a lying hypocrite.
All you clowns talking about Saban being a hypocrite. When he did say he don't mind the players getting paid its just how do they get paid. All players going to the highest bidder without proving themselves at the college level. Then maybe only being 2nd or 3rd stringers getting millions while the starters may get a few thousands. Thats the situation the NCAA has creative without make rules first.
Saban and the video game company (EA) are hypocrites. They lost all that power after using people for years. Those video games make tens of millions a year and Saban did also.
Get with the times or move along. No one should own an athlete's image & likeness and then complain about their freedom to profit from it like the schools do for themselves. If people want to complain about the transfer portals, that's more understandable.
Obviously he wasn't gonna say this stuff while he was still coaching, that's the business. Be happy that he's saying it now, bashing him for being a hypocrite is only gonna discourage others from speaking up. Makes me wonder if that's what you guys want.
@@PhoenixRising82672 I know that. He can be a hypocrite and still be correct in what he's saying. It's not a good look, but it's better than him not saying anything IMO.
People used to be able to buy cable etc for pocket change. Now between their phones and their cable and streaming people pay a lot of money. Same with actually attending a game it used to be relatively cheap and now it’s outrageous. So while the ordinary person gets hosed all the NCAA and pro sports get literally billions of dollars. The whole thing is so far out of hand that it’s hard to really care what happens. Not everything should be about maximum profits. That said if things were the way they used to be I would say players should get a piece yes but it would be a tremendously smaller pie and the working class public at large would have all the entertainment they deserve while still keeping most of their hard earned money.
Do they want to be in a video game or not? There is zero negotiation. Archie Manning, QB of Texas #16 w/ picture or QB of Texas #16 w/ randomized face. Take it or leave it.
I dnt Blame Nick leaving College Football if there was a pay scale with the NIL he probably would have stayed but I’m with Nick listen say what you want before Nick got to Alabama nobody was going there imagine beating people with Recruitment Almost every year then it’s comes down to paying people Nick didn’t make the rules for college football he’s only doing what people did before him the money is ruining everything College Basketball Sucks so bad and College football looks like it’s headed that direction
They should start posting graduation rates for these athletes like they did in the 70's. What percentage make it to the Professional Leagues? That degree would benefit 100% of the athletes not the 01% that make a ten-year run in the professional leagues.
@@stonedecatur6602 They can get a job at Pappa' John's work to become a plumber or electrician or join the military. None pay as well as the NFL. If they get a degree in football is that a BA or BS degree?
@@soda8736 Well then, I guess that 16% should have found a Good Major besides General Studies or Philosophy and of the 84% what percentage made pro football 8%?? And of the 8 % what percentage played 8 years or more in the NFL 2%? NFL is great pay, but it has a short career path. Players need to work on second careers with those degrees. The NFL guarantees you will need a second career because most guys are done by age 30 if they make the league. The pay is great, and you need to manage your money.
All those good ole boys made their millions off the backs of All those athletes now they can make money and All these coaches are in an uproar!!!!? Never a dull moment when they see black kids being able to live life's same as them
Student athletes haven’t existed in 30 years. Nick can’t keep three deep at every position and wear down the opponent, that’s what he’s done for 20 years.
Imagine some desk jockey sports guy calling out a multi winning college football superstar coach Nick Sabin. The pompous self important sports media strikes again! Nonsense!
Because it's better to have job security these days playing as a coordinator or a positions coach and playing behind a big name that knows how to handle the media with how they are firing head coaches these days... HC's and position coaches are getting hired at a higher rate under the because of this and no one pays attention because of media diversion of attention.... someone like wade Phillips...
So what about the 4.0 students that could graduate and make millions. Should they get paid beforehand? Without them students the colleges wouldn't have "scholarships" to give these guys.
Those students aren’t putting their bodies on the line to play football bozo. Universities don’t make money off of 4.0 students they take money from them. Alabama and USC make money off their student athletes every day.
Rob is so wishy washy like hes an old ass hater. Now this narative that college head coaches & players are on the same playing field is just bs. Rob dont gaf cause if everything done the way the people want. Yall still would be mad ex the playoffs in college
I think this is a disingenuous conversation. Most coaches aren't mad that players can get paid. They are mad that there are no guard rails and they can't control who on the roster is getting the money. It is crazy that a freshman gets more than a returning starter simply because rivals gave them 4 stars. I'd bet most coaches would be fine if it they were told an amount to spend and then they could decide how to divide it up amongst the players. But be careful what you ask for. Soon, it will be collectively bargained, the players are gonna get shafted because they are 18-23 and only have 5 years to cash in and the schools are going to continue collecting the dough. However this time there will be legal justific for it
@@steveno7058 there's nothing wrong with getting paid, it's the lack of structure. The NFL had the same problem with first round picks that's why they added the rookie wage scale. Which is my point, they will eventually become employees and the colleges will put structures in place to control how the money is distributed. I won't be shocked if they create non competes and remove scholarships entirely at some point
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Thank you for someone calling Saban out. Saban has been compensating players under the table for decades. Not to mention other favors. He just hates that every other school can now legally compete on the compensation playing field. We all agree there needs to be more structure around the NIL and portal. But Saban and the SEC are the main reasons we're here now because they never wanted to even start the discussion with fairly compensating the players.
What evidence do you have that Saben compensated kids under the table?
@@eugenecaldwell9619 You're joking right? LOL
@eugenecaldwell9619
Do you really think an 18 year old living in Cali would say to themselves "you know what, I'm a young talented athlete, I want to move to MOBILE ALABAMA" 😂😂
@@vicarious4231 It's not even Mobile which is a nice city. We're talking about Tuscaloosa. LOL!
@@heartbreak25 I swear, people love to play ignorant!
Nick Saban “I love the players and I love college football” = “I love my $17 million a year” 😂
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I’m a hiring manager and I’ll even tell you these college degrees mean VERY little in 2024. That’s been dead for about 10 years. Don’t believe me? Ask most people you meet.
Never meant much..if you had the complexion for the protection. Only difference is now the demand for manpower outweighs the need to maintain the good ol’ boys network.
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What do the hiring managers look for over the degree
@@elijah7340 the higher ups son's resume who is no qualified.
@cheatingscoobydoo There’s plenty without one getting paid MORE doing the same thing that you studied.
Savior Saban is the biggest hypocrite and most arrogant person in in collegiate sports. Its not about the new landscape with Saban, its about losing the control and power to manipulate his players like he once did. NIL deals and the transfer portal create a power shift in favor of the players, and Saban has recognized for the last few years that its starting to look a a lot like his NFL tenure regarding control of players.
That's why he failed at the pros, he couldn't relate and control his players.
@@ftwsam2246he failed in the pros because saban wanted drew Brees and upper management said naw. Drew Brees Is a hof quarterback
Transfer portal and NIL without guard rails is ridiculous
@@hiitsme30391st comment I've seen that sounds like you know what you talking about👊
@@michaelstevers6032how?
The Old guard don’t want to partake in the Free Market unless the goods are ‘Free’.
Lmao Student athlete hasn't existed for decades now, its a professional job in an ameteur settings. Coaches are just getting annoyed that players have more options than ever now to find a situation that they like and that financially suits them. Is it perfect, no however it's much better a situation than it was pre NIL
it's time for coaches to adapt accordingly
no its not😂😂. the NIL just makes the schools w the most money the beet
@@jaysonsmith7264the schools with the most money are already the best and we’re doing nil under the table
Not only that, but some of these players are getting more money than the coaches.
Yeah it's made it almost impossible for schools that develop talent but don't have the money to keep them around. They don't even get credit for developing them after they're drafted from another school they spent one year at.
If you are saying that college sports(particularly football and basketball) have become professional sports, then what's the use of having the NFL and NBA exist? Professional leagues exist for a reason: for players to play and get paid for it. College players are not in college to get paid. They are absolutely supposed to be there to learn the game. You don't pay high school athletes. Why should we pay college ones?
nick stop getting the #1 recruiting class now all of a sudden its a problem
Facts
Exactly
I agree with Bob.
Coaches who make 100x more than the college Professors shouldn’t be complaining about players making money.
College sports became a business when Coaches became the highest paid employee in every state, players chasing money it’s just a consequence of that.
My only problem with it is if we are going to continue to pay players, there should be no more football scholarships. That's not right. We're going to allow a star athlete to come to school for free and also make money on NIL deals, while at the same time a pretty good student might not even be able to go that school because they can't afford it. And you're right. It did start with coaches
Nick Saben has said he doesn't have a problem with the players being paid . Rob and Chris just want to paint this narrative. Now the transfer portal he probably doesn't like..
@@JJ_5289 well that “ pretty good student” is not making the university millions… stop it
Like manziel said they always been playing for money since the beginning
$600 sounds low but how much can they afford to offer? There are over 100 players per Division 1 team with over 100 teams. That's over 6 million dollars and let's not forget that over 95 and maybe even 99% of those players are not going to get any other kind of endorsement deal for anything. If you were a backup on some random team with little to no hope of getting drafted in the NFL, are you going to turn your nose up at $600?
Rob Parker gets the opinions flying. 😂😂😂😂
I’m confused honestly what does that mean it’s an opinion show where they literally give their opinions?
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From the listening audience. Rob Parker is polarizing. People love to hate Rob Parker.
@@mhairsto24 I think Rob Parker wants to be HATED!!!!
Great take by Rob!!
Now that Nick ain't winning chips , it's not football anymore... Competition a helluva drug I guess
He had a great season
A lot better than Deon Sanders who these guys praise
Black RACISM
Great commentary from Rob Parker as usual. Nick Saban has always been the most self-serving person in college sports. Always talking the running backs into playing another year and taking another beating in the SEC. Claimed the faster paced, more open game was less safe when the opposite was true. And of course always got paid himself very, very well.
He won 7 National Championships. He put hundreds of players in the NFL. Don’t be stupid.
99 percent of those players on the game aren’t even worth 600 dollars. If your the back up tight end at bowling green or the back up free safety at Arkansas state, how much are you really worth? If you say no they can just put you in there with a different number. I would love to see the starting right guard at Wyoming ask for more money.
THANK YOU. I couldn’t have said it any better myself. The players can always say no, and have $600 less and have to buy the game themselves. EA Sports will release the game without that player and be fine.
Plus there are probably thousands of CFB players - paying them out and giving that free copy of the game equates to literal millions. And it’s not like the game suddenly becomes so much hotter than before because you can play as Jayden Daniels instead of nameless guy.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander
Plantation economics is over and they can't handle it. We're a capitalistic society so pony up the dough.
Yep, they can’t compete.
Facts!
Oh no the yt man keeping me down
@@litedawg No. He wants to keep all the money. That's all. Forget sharing with who's actually playing.
@@litedawg Not a Man. Keep guessing.
Rob just be talking 🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂
Nick saban won a championship in the NIL era and litterally just lost by 3 to Michigan. The game was better than the national championship He’s 72 that’s why he retired
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That ends this dumb debate
Rob finally has a point 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
College basketball hasn't declined because of NIL.
exactly!!
Not yet
1 and done , straight to NBA did that and I'm not mad about it. I do miss seeing upper class men like Jordan, Ewing, Mourning but that's the way of the times.
Great take Rob. These coaches wanna make millions and the players made nothing with 0 leverage.
Rob was cooking
And he’s right! 👨🏿🍳
I'm so sick of people lying on cfb players. The vast majority of those guys graduate. They are student athletes.
Nick Saban graduates 84 % of his players ,sounds like student athelets to me.
Fans aren't going anywhere.
Spitting 🔥🔥Rob Parker!
NIL is fine for proven players but paying high school kids millions before they've done anything is where it's gotten all messed up.
Which is the same risk you run from college to the pros
No it isn’t messed up. If someone is willing to pay a high school kid millions then so be it. Teenage singers and actors get paid millions. Putting restrictions on athletes pay is DUMB
Capitalism
@@steveno7058Facts
Sports is getting close to being on their death door and being %100 fixed like WWE
I believe it already is scripted in some form
@@seanguinnit what form do you think it’s scripted? I keep seeing people say sports are scripted and I think that’s giving way too much credit to whoever you think is scripting it. I mean actually think about how hard it would be to script 1 nfl game with everyone involved not getting together and rehearsing all while some players are moving at like 20 mph. If they are scripting it then Hollywood needs to go talk to the nfl because they can barely put together a decent movie with everyone being together on set for 3-6 months. It just doesn’t make any sense when you actually think about it
All ready sis. Lebron says his ankle hurts night 1 but plays night 2. Rigged
@@iiRolltide Respectfully, it's always been scripted. We just have communications, broadcasting and social mediums to track and analyze it much better than they can hide it now adays (it's why education and skill set is at an all time premium). I too used to believe that it wasn't and that ppl were haters or lazy or unintelligent enough to understand that, that's how it is. Until I got into Big Money aka Controlling money then certain dots started to click.
And honestly that's the operative word: money. If it was just pure competition for glory and honor and bragging rights, then it's best man/woman up. But the moment an advertising, location and gambling check is cashed, things get really bad.
To your great example about the players/games being scripted, it isn't that hard when someone is giving you millions of dollars. Think about the last time and offense was whooping a Defense butt and seriously moving the chains and a lineman or DB 'takes' and injury timeout. 99% of the time nothing was wrong, he just needed to buy his teammates 2-5 mins of breathing time and give the DC sometime to think of something else. He isn't Denzel Washington or Daniel Day Lewis but he scripted that hammy/ankle injury and somehow found his way back on the field 10 min later.
And it's not just the players. We haven't gotten a solid believable explanation as to why Marshawn Lynch didn't get the ball on that 5 yard line to punch a 2nd SB win against the Pats or why Belichek benched Malcolm Butler ( and if you really believe it was because words were exchanged with Matt Patricia I've got some prime Manhattan real estate to sell you) against the Eagles.
And lord knows we don't even have enough hours in the day to talk about the Refs....
As humans, we do have a desire to always know/have an answer for something and this is a risky fallacy that can lead us to believe made up theories to justify a situation with 'logic'...that being shared and examining history, it's becoming harder and harder to ignore both the sense test (eyes, ears, etc) and the analytics for outcomes with respect to variables. As a wise person wrote "It just doesn’t make any sense when you actually think about it"...
@@iiRolltide It's really not that hard to script sports my man. You're giving these leagues way too much credit.
As the kids would say FOH Nick.
CFB has been all about the $$$ for decades now. Dude just mad NIL took his recruiting leverage away, took his ball and went home. Universities out here making hundreds of millions off these kids backs to pay coaches 90-100 million dollar contracts and he out here complaining now. Comical.
They mad because they can’t rack up 5 stars as 3rd and 4th string players like they used to….other FBS schools want to win and will pay to get some of those top recruits that were going to the same 5 schools….like they said, these kids got options now
Nick doesn’t mind the kids getting paid as long as he has complete control of how and when they receive it.
Saban has always been a hypocrit. I remember an interview like 10 years ago he did where they were asking him if players deserved any type of compensation and he said " its not like we are out here making millions of dollars off of them....." like literally Saban you were making like 10 mill a year since youve been at Bama. What a POS.
Totally. And remember when he started crying about the more open and the hurry up being less safe. And of course they were more safe than the ultra physical pounding that Saban preferred.
And talking the running backs into coming back into the SEC for another year. To take another beating. For nick.
Saban was worth $100 million a year and only got paid $10 million a year.
@@litedawg I think you're missing my point.
He quit because he couldn't have the Monopoly on good players anymore...CAUSE HE WOULD GET EXPOSED AS A AVERAGE COACH FACTSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It ain't the same cuz alabama-georgia the whole SEC was spending money on players.. now everybody got money now
If it's a free market system, why isn't tampering allowed in the NFL and other pro sports? It's a free market system there as well, but tampering is banned, yet it's legal in college. Why? As for comparing coaches to college athletes, that's always been a stupid, lazy comparison. Coaches have contracts that they are bound by, and they have buyouts. You want to put college athletes under binding contract and have buyouts for them as well, then and only then can you compare them.
Nobody has a problem with the kids being paid. Tampering is a problem and there are no rules whatsoever.
great points! My argument for the tampering ban at the pro level is that there is a fixed number of teams competing at a small enough scale to control the outcome: Your game changers and household names can only go to 31 other destinations vs 134 (NCAA D1-A schools for Collegiate American Football). That's basically a 10X difference. It's harder for the Sharp sports books to create lines for that level of access.
You wouldn't consider your athletic scholarship a binding contract which can be bought out at the Coaches whim (in this context/example)? Not being sarcastic, actually asking for education and civil debate.
To me, tampering is only a problem when you have a significant investment at stake and you're sitting at the top. Sr. Developers, Engineers, Lawyers and Med Doctors are always being pitched and recruited by other organizations, with most leaving because the options are more in their favor than the Big Co. they are with. Pro and Student Athletes should have that same freedom
Pro sports are collectively bargained. There is no such thing in college
Thought it was unfair/lazu/sloppy journalism for Chris and rob to clearly not know exactly what Saban said. Chris sort of knew and rob had no clue. Saban didn’t say the kids shouldn’t get paid.
What change does he want He doesn't care about student athletes
I just want to know is the games more or less interesting. Im siding on the side of better / more interesting games.
As far as the ea sports college football game, nobody cares if the players sign on, that game has always been about dynasty mode which you play with automatically generated fictional players anyway after a few seasons. They could sell the game with completely fictional rosters and it would still fly off the shelf as long as you have the schools in the game
Bro you don’t need the players. Users create the rosters for free
If i was offered $600 amd a free game in college i would be hyped up. Then years down the road you can show your kids you were ok a video game. Youre getting your name and image out there and what are you gonna do say no you cant use my image and name while your a second string OL at Wyoming? The oeople who deserve deals have them. Just another facet of a greedy entitled society. College athletes didnt get paid for 100 years and nobody died and the country was great.
Rob Parker doesn’t like Tom Brady, he doesn’t like Nick Saban, he doesn’t like Lebron James, he doesn’t like Patrick Mahomes. Sensing a theme here? Rob Parker attacks anyone who is head and shoulders above the rest.
I agree. In the free market country, only certain people were getting paid. I was shocked as a the imigrant…..
It's not the NIL, it's the portal. You can't keep players cuz they leaving immediately. The players can't develop.
That Ron ignored just to spew his narrative. Saben an especially Chip Kelly, were pro Nil, the portral is whats screwing everything up
Oh well
Once the players face is on the game they will make a lot more than EA could pay them
Huh ??😂😂 Chip kelly left and went to THE Ohio State as a Oc
OK so what's so funny about that?
Nick ain't wrong, they are professional athletes now at a college level!!
I’m an arkansas fan so I hate saban, but in 10 years college football will be a fraction of what isn’t is today. In popularity, product, coaching….it’s not just going to “work itself out”. They released nil as a half baked plan and no fix is in sight
Rob is ridiculous, it’s $600 each for over 11,400 players that’s just under 7 mill. How much they expectin the players to get? U gotta be realistic
I agree with this for Madden I think the players get like 56K each (which to a lot of them is not that much money relatively speaking) and they're fine with it because they just want to be in the game. 700 for a lot of people in college who are not playing at the next level i'm sure for them to be immortalised in a game would be enough, the top stars could probs get more money same as the NFL but get likeness deals for video game usually works as a collective and not individual
Lmao 7 million? Ncaa football generates Billions of dollars in revenue. 7 million is nothing. Probably less than 1 percent of profit.
The NCAA system for football does, the actual game we don't know yet as it's been a decade since the last game. EA will make money for sure but how much money do you think they should offer each player from each college school considering its gonna be an even amount for each player most likely @@Joes35
@@Joes35the video game doesn’t generate billions lol not even madden makes that in a year
I think its only so low because its the first year. I think the kids should get some residual income based on future sales of the game.
Everyone is right. The coaches are 100% correct in that this system is making things way worse for everyone. The old compensation system was extremely unfair as well. The answer is obvious but politics wont allow it.
I have to agree with Rob on this one
Rob is just awful on these topics. It’s always just picking a bad guy
If rob knew the history of ncaa college games and how iconic they were, he would realize why they don’t care about the 600. It’s been a long time coming.
I think America has to come to terms with the new reality of college football. It is semi-pro ball. The players today are not student athletes. They are professionals biding their time until they can move into the NFL. Personally, I think college football is wrecked, but we will have to wait and see how bad the damages get. I am not surprised college coaches are leaving and I don't blame them. It is possible that America loves football so much that they will embrace 50 new professional teams at the university level. I would rather see our colleges get back to teaching and educating our young people. Football is not going to make out country great. Education might.
facts Rob!
Saban is a Big Ass hypocrite. He left Alabama because he couldn't dangle playing time and a championship ring in front of those 4 and 5 star athletes anymore. That's why he caught the first thing smoking out of Miami. He didn't have any control, which he couldn't handle. He couldn't handle a level playing field.
Rob clearly knows nothing about video games.
You have to license the school, mascot and logo from every school. There are WAY more colleges than there are professional teams in any sport. It’s more expensive to license a college game.
NCAA rosters are also bigger than NFL rosters. There are even more people you have to cut in with a slice.
College Football wasn’t selling that well to begin with or they never would have cancelled it. $600 isn’t an insulting offer. What else are you doing with your video game likeness?
There are people who could really use that money, but it’s getting looked down on as an insult? You’re teaching these kids who most won’t make the NFL and will have to get real jobs that they can just show up and expect thousands of dollars just for existing? Bullshit.
Why don't people call out the bagman issue more when pointing out the hypocrisy of these coaches that don't like the new landscape
Somebody needs to tell Rob and Chris that the college football games don’t make much money. EA is paying 6 mil to get the kids when they honestly didn’t have to. Ppl would play the game anyway.
Also, 5k kids have signed up already lol
Oh dam I’m really out here HEAVILY agreeing with Rob Parker. Old heads being hypocrites
Yawn child
Well said Rob Parker…it will take time to iron out
Players should be able to change Universities. Coaches can leave at a drop of a hat. So should players.
Coaches are employees under contract they have every right to leave. If you make these kids sign contracts with these nils then they can have the same freedom. But we have unproven kids making money
Leaving when they get ready and that’s crazy
If someone wants to give a kid 3 million for their talent let them.
@@nicyee3701 how is that relevant to my comment?
@@Sambula3You make it seem crazy that kids are leaving or that unproven kids are making profit. I’m just saying if someone wants to buy their services let them.
@@nicyee3701 it’s called name image and likeness. You haven’t proven anything as an incoming freshman your name means next to nothing monetarily until you prove it on the field. Idc about players getting payed the part yall don’t understand is that for every kid that jumps in the portal to get money and actually get it , it’s literally 100s that jump in and don’t get picked up all together . It’s a broken system you shouldn’t be getting payed before you prove anything and NIL does ZERO for the kids that play but may not be the biggest star on the team
Chip Kelly did not give up his head coaching job to be an assistant in the NFL. He gave it up to be a coordinator at ohio state.
C'mon guys. Get your info straight.
But I agree about saban. He's always been a lying hypocrite.
Saban didn’t lie rob always crying with no facts just emotions
All you clowns talking about Saban being a hypocrite. When he did say he don't mind the players getting paid its just how do they get paid. All players going to the highest bidder without proving themselves at the college level. Then maybe only being 2nd or 3rd stringers getting millions while the starters may get a few thousands. Thats the situation the NCAA has creative without make rules first.
Rob and Chris presented the story disingenuously and simple minded people want to go with because it pits the old white guy as the bad guy.
These guys are woefully ignorant about college football. LSU players split NIL money. They don’t just pay one player.
Rob being Rob.
Saban and the video game company (EA) are hypocrites. They lost all that power after using people for years. Those video games make tens of millions a year and Saban did also.
Chip Kelly gave up his HC job to go b an OC at Ohio State, not the NFL
He is mad because players are compensated for play as they should ...all the millions he has made !
Get with the times or move along. No one should own an athlete's image & likeness and then complain about their freedom to profit from it like the schools do for themselves. If people want to complain about the transfer portals, that's more understandable.
Thats what Saban and coaches are more upset with . Rob just talking
These dudes r confused at the start! Kelly left for Ohio State not the pros- even wilder imho..
I give credit when credit is due. Rob Parker delivered some excellent points about college football and Nic "The Slick" Saban. 😂
Obviously he wasn't gonna say this stuff while he was still coaching, that's the business. Be happy that he's saying it now, bashing him for being a hypocrite is only gonna discourage others from speaking up. Makes me wonder if that's what you guys want.
He's a hypocrite
@@PhoenixRising82672 I know that. He can be a hypocrite and still be correct in what he's saying. It's not a good look, but it's better than him not saying anything IMO.
Saban has made 120 million dollars off these kids backs. And another 5 million a year from endorsements. So he needs to knock it off.
Hes graduated 84 % and sent countless players to NFL to make millions, sounds like the kids and Nick use each others backs
😭 Now Rob Parker u shut ur Damn mouth about that video game ! 🎮 😭😭💯
People used to be able to buy cable etc for pocket change. Now between their phones and their cable and streaming people pay a lot of money. Same with actually attending a game it used to be relatively cheap and now it’s outrageous. So while the ordinary person gets hosed all the NCAA and pro sports get literally billions of dollars. The whole thing is so far out of hand that it’s hard to really care what happens. Not everything should be about maximum profits. That said if things were the way they used to be I would say players should get a piece yes but it would be a tremendously smaller pie and the working class public at large would have all the entertainment they deserve while still keeping most of their hard earned money.
Do they want to be in a video game or not? There is zero negotiation. Archie Manning, QB of Texas #16 w/ picture or QB of Texas #16 w/ randomized face. Take it or leave it.
That’s what Coach Saban is tired of.
$600 × 11,000 = $6.6M
I dnt Blame Nick leaving College Football if there was a pay scale with the NIL he probably would have stayed but I’m with Nick listen say what you want before Nick got to Alabama nobody was going there imagine beating people with Recruitment Almost every year then it’s comes down to paying people Nick didn’t make the rules for college football he’s only doing what people did before him the money is ruining everything College Basketball Sucks so bad and College football looks like it’s headed that direction
They should start posting graduation rates for these athletes like they did in the 70's. What percentage make it to the Professional Leagues? That degree would benefit 100% of the athletes not the 01% that make a ten-year run in the professional leagues.
They could get a degree at another college.
@@stonedecatur6602 They can get a job at Pappa' John's work to become a plumber or electrician or join the military. None pay as well as the NFL. If they get a degree in football is that a BA or BS degree?
Saban graduates 84 %
@@soda8736 Well then, I guess that 16% should have found a Good Major besides General Studies or Philosophy and of the 84% what percentage made pro football 8%?? And of the 8 % what percentage played 8 years or more in the NFL 2%? NFL is great pay, but it has a short career path. Players need to work on second careers with those degrees. The NFL guarantees you will need a second career because most guys are done by age 30 if they make the league. The pay is great, and you need to manage your money.
They don't need to do that
Rob is stupid literally; The football team pays for his salary as a USC professor. Why should the coach get paid the same.
Chip is the OC at Ohio State
All those good ole boys made their millions off the backs of All those athletes now they can make money and All these coaches are in an uproar!!!!? Never a dull moment when they see black kids being able to live life's same as them
The problem be how lazy the players get once they get the money
You guys needs your own channel on UA-cam. Come on now
Ok but student athletes are free degrees already plus feeding them and housing them come on.
Student athletes haven’t existed in 30 years. Nick can’t keep three deep at every position and wear down the opponent, that’s what he’s done for 20 years.
Yeah sure buddy. 7 nattys . Deal with it. If he were black they'd say this is racism
No more hand picked 5 stars is all.
Imagine some desk jockey sports guy calling out a multi winning college football superstar coach Nick Sabin. The pompous self important sports media strikes again! Nonsense!
Because it's better to have job security these days playing as a coordinator or a positions coach and playing behind a big name that knows how to handle the media with how they are firing head coaches these days... HC's and position coaches are getting hired at a higher rate under the because of this and no one pays attention because of media diversion of attention.... someone like wade Phillips...
So what about the 4.0 students that could graduate and make millions. Should they get paid beforehand? Without them students the colleges wouldn't have "scholarships" to give these guys.
Those students aren’t putting their bodies on the line to play football bozo. Universities don’t make money off of 4.0 students they take money from them. Alabama and USC make money off their student athletes every day.
Those student aren’t the reason the NCAA can sign deals worth billions lol
Players will take the 600. the game will be too big for them to pass it up.
Saban couldn't sustain cause he can't stack 2 and three 5 star linebackers
$600 for being third string sounds good
Saban likes total control.
Rob is so wishy washy like hes an old ass hater. Now this narative that college head coaches & players are on the same playing field is just bs. Rob dont gaf cause if everything done the way the people want. Yall still would be mad ex the playoffs in college
I think this is a disingenuous conversation. Most coaches aren't mad that players can get paid. They are mad that there are no guard rails and they can't control who on the roster is getting the money. It is crazy that a freshman gets more than a returning starter simply because rivals gave them 4 stars. I'd bet most coaches would be fine if it they were told an amount to spend and then they could decide how to divide it up amongst the players. But be careful what you ask for. Soon, it will be collectively bargained, the players are gonna get shafted because they are 18-23 and only have 5 years to cash in and the schools are going to continue collecting the dough. However this time there will be legal justific for it
Whats wrong with getting paid? A person is worth how much someone is willing to pay. Would you like someone limiting how much money you take home?
@@steveno7058 there's nothing wrong with getting paid, it's the lack of structure. The NFL had the same problem with first round picks that's why they added the rookie wage scale. Which is my point, they will eventually become employees and the colleges will put structures in place to control how the money is distributed. I won't be shocked if they create non competes and remove scholarships entirely at some point
Yes they're mad
Chip Kelly is at Ohio State
I like ncaa football better than madden. But its been so long that game could flop
You really think EA will put any actual effort into the game? They know fans will buy it just because it’s been so long since the last one!
It’s literally the same game lol. Just with college uniforms