I actually never knew that. I normally have barracks on 5, stable on 6 and archery range on 7 with every civ. This looks way more efficient combining them
@@TkTronixYt I reached plat 2 with basic style of walling off as I push and being defensive on sacred sites and markets while denying opponents market. So that's why I said are YOU sure about that, because that wouldn't work against me and others I know who play high level
@@TkTronixYt as I am gold, I said I reached plat before with a different method, this season I'm gold 3. Soy question remains, what makes you think it will work on gold players, particularly myself?
Guys I know it goes in the face of every rts that has come before but just use F1 and Tab. You won't lose any buildings. You free u a control group if you have a way to use all ten of them. I wish I could have more control groups. I use a 12 thumb button mouse for everything. But that control group trick is really cool.
My tip for you, when you play HRE: Scout their base as much as possible, and watch for fast castle (if they have a lot of villagers early in feudal, you can often guess the will go early age 3). Go age 3 yourself, and get crossbowmen.
A question for A-drongo - what PC setup are do you use? would be great to see a spec review and maybe you could talk about why you picked what? - video idea?
After getting beaten by the Intermediate AI for so many times now, I defeated them on the first try. Looks like the only mistake I was doing is to not make use of the best strategies with each Civilisation. Feels so good now.
They already chopped the wood. When you build a production building, villagers will drop off any resources they have once it's built regardless of which production building you made. It doesn't work if you shift click it though.
English and HRE can try mixing in M@A into their comp, knights (of equivalent vetrancy) also have the damage dealt to them reduced to ping, I as a watcher of games would think it would be better to focus on mobility to counter the ball by raiding and picking off straggler units
maa with some range prot make for a good wall till you stabilize, china player either pulls back to up to t3 - waste time by doing some kiting, meanwhile you pull the mangos, gather relics/ raid the shit out of him with knights to even villager count before he pumps spears. After that lull is walling time and play like always
Been practicing this... For the opening part, how do you prevent your vill from building the mill instead of killing the sheep? Even hovering over the sheep it turns into a build icon. Sometimes I have to pull the sheep out a bit just to make this reliably work
So I get not having the Mill out by the berries but what about putting the mill on the berry side of the tc? Wouldn’t that get the same effect with the IO but also make berry walk time shorter and also supervised?
In this case it's about the resource of time, you want as close to 0 seconds walk time as possible in order to make the timing work on the dynasty boost to villager production as well as access to the zhuge nu. Ideally for this build you want a straggler located right in front of your base where villagers spawn, if not you are going for the nearest straggler to your villagers and if berries are adjacent that's a bonus.
Can you explain how IOs prioritize tax pickups? If you play pocket ecos, do you do anything special to make sure your IOs only pick up tax from buildings close to home?
@@fathinalbatamiy9290 A pocket economy is just a small group of resource gathering villagers disconnected from your main base, like when you go out into the map for a boar before it's been secured by your walls, keeps, or production.
You're only really afraid of mangonels. They won't have more than 10 MAA by 11 minutes if they go fast castle, and 30 zhugenu can deal with that ez pz. If they go knights they get rekt by spears. Not a single civ can go fast castle and afford a mangonel with any units to support it. You have to be fast with your build order though, if you drag it along to 13-14 mins mark you'll lose.
tried this vs abbasid, until i arraived he had almost double the vills ! easly defended with 0 army ! 15 vills in TC other 15 burning Rams even though i killed alot, mid fight he is in castle and gg called.
@@ganknujnal It absolutely can be, but if you notice the rush - stop this build order and switch to wood and a normal tower defense approach. I am brand new to the game, practiced this build for hours and have won all my ranked games against higher ranked players than me so far. One of them was the Mongols and tried the tower rush and I successfully defended it and he resigned.
You should leave 1 tile between mill and TC. Otherwise its more likely that villagers may return food to TC. Also mill without 1 tile between is slightly more vulnerable vs ranged attacks, but if you leave 1 tile between mill and TC you leave small safe space which can still be utilized as protected area and its less likely to deliver food into TC which is big no no. It can still happen with 1 tile between the TC and Mill but less likely. Obviously a lot depends on other factors if mill can be threatened but I found that leaving the 1 tile is just easier and better. Also placing Villager far away from TC leaves it vulnerable to harass which results you either losing it or losing wood to repair it. ITs better for village to hug the tc
You should use Village as a garrison point when you expand (like near berries or behind woodline, as shown on this video, or maybe on your stone if you're going for 2nd TC), also if it's close to TC you will probably waste space on the Academy. Regarding the empty space, that's why you want to reposition the sheep to the other side, so it should never be an issue. It's actually way more likely that you will drop off at TC if you leave a space and try to farm the sheep between the mill and TC (safer, as you suggest) If your Villages are getting destroyed, you probably needed them to save your villagers anyway (because it means you're under fire, not having the village would mean more walking distance for your villagers)
@@flyingjetbr Yes I do know why he places village further ahead, but its much easily subject of taken down or damaged, which hurts economy and isn't worth of risk. If you're so worried about influence of IA then you can delete village in later game if you desire to use the spot for something else. Its better be safe early on than use resources to repair village or lose it because its much easier to lose especially when facing ranged based comp with potential ram or torch dmg. If village is hugging TC it can't be taken down without rams or armored units and even then you can repair it while instantly hopping back to TC. Mill without 1 tile distance is subject to any ranged raids. You're actually 3 tiles away from TC and TC fire range is like 7 or 8 tiles which leaves you vulnerable to normal archer attacks also it leaves sheep vulnerable and if player is capable they just kill the sheep on that spot and denies your food. If you place it 1 tile away and stack sheep properly then it won't deliver into TC and is completely protected. Also interaction with mill, vills and TC for dropping off is weird because even if the mill is actually closer, but villager is somewhat in weird position it delivers it into TC and with mill being hugging the TC and if you need safer food you need to move the sheep to sideways which results more likely vills delivering food into TC. As someone who plays Song into FC and got very similar methods. Even tho I play 2v2, but the way I have done things are experienced that I had when facing aggressive plays or pokes and these measures ensures that I can reach FC with song with pro scouts without and hinder and timing I hit castle is around 8-830min mark. Also for example because I go pro scouts everygame and start with 2 scout I can ensure 2 deer camps or more under the first mill and completely protected. Usually my BBQ covers mill too because its always between gold and TC and usually also woodline too.
@@AussieDrongo thank You very much brother! What a fast response! Iam so happy to watch all of your videos and playlist! Wish you the best man! keep it up buddy’!!!
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The shift adding the barracks to the archery range blew my mind! (Also cheeky little sheep rush back to the base with the house!) Love it!
I actually never knew that. I normally have barracks on 5, stable on 6 and archery range on 7 with every civ. This looks way more efficient combining them
same
@@TkTronixYt how come u dont use the f1 or whatever. In this game u need 4 groups for units Sc2 i had that kind of setup.
All the tips shown here is not possible to do in a ranked
How are you able to pause and interact with villagers??
“ you gotta have a math degree to start with China”😂 right, right
HAHAAHAHAAH
Fantastic content mate THANK YOU! I’ve actually opened AOE4 for the first time in months thanks to this video.
Some incredible hot tips in this vid! Thanks Drongo! I didn't know about the mixed rack/archer range control group
Went on a 6 game win streak with what you said man. Big up and respect bredrin.
Welcome back Drongo, you and the Legacy team did an awesome job!
Damn, this build is slick! Very useful tips. I'll certainly be watching this more than once and taking notes!
is it still up to date this song dynasty rush etc? or did it gotten nerfed over time?
went to find myself a guide for this, love that i found an aussie straight away!
7 wins in a row. after practicing for a few runs and getting the build order internalised... havoc it is!
this was very helpful! great video , thank you ! keep up the great work
by 8minutes, HRE all in is already swarming you with MAA, Archers & Rams w/ full blacksmith upgrade LOL
Nice explanation of the control group "QR codes" hehehe
I was really sloppy, but managed to kill hardest AI at minute 13. I think this is gonna put some other gold opponents in trouble!
You sure about that?
@@kmikel3669Yes, I reached Plat with it. Never managed before
@@TkTronixYt I reached plat 2 with basic style of walling off as I push and being defensive on sacred sites and markets while denying opponents market. So that's why I said are YOU sure about that, because that wouldn't work against me and others I know who play high level
@@kmikel3669 yeah, as you can see I wrote 'gold opponents' not 'high level'
@@TkTronixYt as I am gold, I said I reached plat before with a different method, this season I'm gold 3. Soy question remains, what makes you think it will work on gold players, particularly myself?
Guys I know it goes in the face of every rts that has come before but just use F1 and Tab. You won't lose any buildings. You free u a control group if you have a way to use all ten of them. I wish I could have more control groups. I use a 12 thumb button mouse for everything. But that control group trick is really cool.
after playing a few rounds I found out I struggle a lot against HRE with Burgrave spamming MAA
My tip for you, when you play HRE: Scout their base as much as possible, and watch for fast castle (if they have a lot of villagers early in feudal, you can often guess the will go early age 3). Go age 3 yourself, and get crossbowmen.
A question for A-drongo - what PC setup are do you use? would be great to see a spec review and maybe you could talk about why you picked what? - video idea?
After getting beaten by the Intermediate AI for so many times now, I defeated them on the first try. Looks like the only mistake I was doing is to not make use of the best strategies with each Civilisation. Feels so good now.
How did building the mining camp allow you to obtain 30 wood? It was at the beginning.
They already chopped the wood. When you build a production building, villagers will drop off any resources they have once it's built regardless of which production building you made. It doesn't work if you shift click it though.
@@williamwolfe9335 Do you know if it's a glitch that may become fixed at some point or an expected, totally legit behavior?
@@grzesiekaz It's in many build order videos so it's definitely expected, but no one knows how it might change in the future. I like it.
What is the significance of moving the single villager to kill the sheep while constructing mill?
We make one person do it to avoid all the villagers doing the kill animation at the same time, making them all idle for a bit
Only need ome block in imperial radius? Today my game improves tenfold!
how do you blueprint your building without moving a villager like that ?
Hold shift and build. Only works if they’re preoccupied
This strategy is slapping rn in ranked! Thanks!
Barracks and Archery group 4 I just use TAB once i've pressed 4. also works
This still good in season 7? If so ,do I delay the IO like what we’re doing now.
Thanks I was just thinking about going China and was looking for a build order 👍🏻
Love this. Thanks drongo!
Is there anything you can do against mass zhuge nus other than just try to age up to castle and get mangonels?
English and HRE can try mixing in M@A into their comp, knights (of equivalent vetrancy) also have the damage dealt to them reduced to ping, I as a watcher of games would think it would be better to focus on mobility to counter the ball by raiding and picking off straggler units
maa with some range prot make for a good wall till you stabilize, china player either pulls back to up to t3 - waste time by doing some kiting, meanwhile you pull the mangos, gather relics/ raid the shit out of him with knights to even villager count before he pumps spears. After that lull is walling time and play like always
Gonna try this today thanks :)
Been practicing this... For the opening part, how do you prevent your vill from building the mill instead of killing the sheep? Even hovering over the sheep it turns into a build icon. Sometimes I have to pull the sheep out a bit just to make this reliably work
The hitbox of the sheep and the mill is sadly not that great, try zooming in or move the sheep a little bit.
Looking forward to seeing you play and stream or UA-cam-upload this build 💯
Amazing guide thx!
Wish i was smart enough to remember all this lol
Turn playback to 0.75 if you want to hear speech at an average speed instead of the lightning speed that Aussie_Drongo talks with.
the most amazing is the 5:00 time of song dynasty,my time is 5:15
Can someone with a math degree please write down the steps for me?
So I get not having the Mill out by the berries but what about putting the mill on the berry side of the tc? Wouldn’t that get the same effect with the IO but also make berry walk time shorter and also supervised?
In this case it's about the resource of time, you want as close to 0 seconds walk time as possible in order to make the timing work on the dynasty boost to villager production as well as access to the zhuge nu. Ideally for this build you want a straggler located right in front of your base where villagers spawn, if not you are going for the nearest straggler to your villagers and if berries are adjacent that's a bonus.
how do you create blueprint of a building with no selected villager?
Thanks for this amazing guide! Why do we need to leave one space out from Academy?
How are you able to pause and interact with villagers??
Can you explain how IOs prioritize tax pickups? If you play pocket ecos, do you do anything special to make sure your IOs only pick up tax from buildings close to home?
I don't understand what pocket mean
@@fathinalbatamiy9290 A pocket economy is just a small group of resource gathering villagers disconnected from your main base, like when you go out into the map for a boar before it's been secured by your walls, keeps, or production.
Holy you know what this is complicated
Plz make a video on what is timing push...
This is why I love Drongo!
Pls build order as pdf ❤❤❤❤
I tried the zhugenu rush so often but my enemys went age 3 all the time. What should i do then??
You're only really afraid of mangonels. They won't have more than 10 MAA by 11 minutes if they go fast castle, and 30 zhugenu can deal with that ez pz. If they go knights they get rekt by spears. Not a single civ can go fast castle and afford a mangonel with any units to support it. You have to be fast with your build order though, if you drag it along to 13-14 mins mark you'll lose.
all this and then you walk into enemy maa. Doh
Why you have to build mill for sheep? imperial guy can't boost tc?
He cannot boost the tc
Nice build here
how do you deduct 1 vil from a hot key group?
Did someone write the buildorder down? :D
How does this hold up Vs hre fc burgrave?
If the enemy does Fast Castle at 8-9mins do you still push?
This was often my problem. When they go fast castle, eg hre with men at arms, you have no chance.
is this still working?
Pls do more of these 😎👍
So nice to know what ppl are likely to play and exploit it 😇
How to deal with English or HRE MAA?
Hey Drongo if you haven't already, cover the Malian navy. I've never seen a more effective navy than theirs. Their cannons are insane on their ships.
Why no Clocktower in Imperial Academy?
Because the tax generated per unit is a fixed value so it is more efficient to train smaller, cheaper units instead.
Started playing Aoe4. Chinese seem fun, lets find a video for some tips. Watch this. Find a new game.
There is a donkey on minute 17
i didnt like playing with chines civ befor cus i suck, but with this build order its so fkin good, thx m8
How do you pause this game????
In single player mode, click escape key. In multiplayer mode, you can't.
You the man.
tried this vs abbasid, until i arraived he had almost double the vills ! easly defended with 0 army ! 15 vills in TC other 15 burning Rams even though i killed alot, mid fight he is in castle and gg called.
What does this strategy lose to?
Would be interesting to see how this stacks up against a FC burgrave or Malian Javalin Thrower / Archer combo.
The lack of wood in the first 3-4 min feels vulneable to tower rushes
@@ganknujnal It absolutely can be, but if you notice the rush - stop this build order and switch to wood and a normal tower defense approach. I am brand new to the game, practiced this build for hours and have won all my ranked games against higher ranked players than me so far. One of them was the Mongols and tried the tower rush and I successfully defended it and he resigned.
You should leave 1 tile between mill and TC. Otherwise its more likely that villagers may return food to TC. Also mill without 1 tile between is slightly more vulnerable vs ranged attacks, but if you leave 1 tile between mill and TC you leave small safe space which can still be utilized as protected area and its less likely to deliver food into TC which is big no no. It can still happen with 1 tile between the TC and Mill but less likely. Obviously a lot depends on other factors if mill can be threatened but I found that leaving the 1 tile is just easier and better.
Also placing Villager far away from TC leaves it vulnerable to harass which results you either losing it or losing wood to repair it. ITs better for village to hug the tc
You should use Village as a garrison point when you expand (like near berries or behind woodline, as shown on this video, or maybe on your stone if you're going for 2nd TC), also if it's close to TC you will probably waste space on the Academy. Regarding the empty space, that's why you want to reposition the sheep to the other side, so it should never be an issue. It's actually way more likely that you will drop off at TC if you leave a space and try to farm the sheep between the mill and TC (safer, as you suggest)
If your Villages are getting destroyed, you probably needed them to save your villagers anyway (because it means you're under fire, not having the village would mean more walking distance for your villagers)
@@flyingjetbr Yes I do know why he places village further ahead, but its much easily subject of taken down or damaged, which hurts economy and isn't worth of risk. If you're so worried about influence of IA then you can delete village in later game if you desire to use the spot for something else. Its better be safe early on than use resources to repair village or lose it because its much easier to lose especially when facing ranged based comp with potential ram or torch dmg. If village is hugging TC it can't be taken down without rams or armored units and even then you can repair it while instantly hopping back to TC.
Mill without 1 tile distance is subject to any ranged raids. You're actually 3 tiles away from TC and TC fire range is like 7 or 8 tiles which leaves you vulnerable to normal archer attacks also it leaves sheep vulnerable and if player is capable they just kill the sheep on that spot and denies your food. If you place it 1 tile away and stack sheep properly then it won't deliver into TC and is completely protected. Also interaction with mill, vills and TC for dropping off is weird because even if the mill is actually closer, but villager is somewhat in weird position it delivers it into TC and with mill being hugging the TC and if you need safer food you need to move the sheep to sideways which results more likely vills delivering food into TC.
As someone who plays Song into FC and got very similar methods. Even tho I play 2v2, but the way I have done things are experienced that I had when facing aggressive plays or pokes and these measures ensures that I can reach FC with song with pro scouts without and hinder and timing I hit castle is around 8-830min mark. Also for example because I go pro scouts everygame and start with 2 scout I can ensure 2 deer camps or more under the first mill and completely protected. Usually my BBQ covers mill too because its always between gold and TC and usually also woodline too.
"whenever you have 40 gold at this mill, drop it off" How do you tell? Who has it and drops it off?
You click on the mill to see how much gold it has and the imperial official drops it off.
You never put your garnaries inside your academy range ?
no need to kill the first sheep with the vill, just place it on the side farthest to the TC
you want to kill it with one vill only before otherwise every vill will waste time with the killing animation
the game don't have Japan civilization its not the same anymore
build order would be nice mate ... your English and ADHD is all over the shop still going to try and follow this
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this doesnt work anymore, cause song nerf
Fyi, 'zh' is pronounced like 'j'.
wait you can drop wood off at a mill?!
Only once they've finished building a dropoff building
Bro i literly listening to ur video at 0.75x. slow down my dude. Tnx btw for ur video
A pro wouldn’t be looking at your build order. Would it kill you to be a little slower?
I hit castle with 3 minutes before you push, gg nice try Drongo.
what a nerd... this game is not fun, when its so complicated and this just show that the every noob who following the steps can win
Bro talks at 2x speed plus who even trys this hard\
The villagers wont drop the wood at the Mill, Is it due to the recent update? Thank you @Aussie_Drongo
don't shift click the villagers, just build the mill and don't give any other commands
@@AussieDrongo thank You very much brother! What a fast response! Iam so happy to watch all of your videos and playlist! Wish you the best man! keep it up buddy’!!!
I really hate every player that uses this civ. Bees nest and crossbowmen are fucking dumb and unfair.