It's to aid with rear departure angle , if you took it all the way back you could crush it off road and if it didn't fully break you'd choke your engine and have to cut it off before continuing, or worse , if you didn't have the tools you'd be stuck.
There is something about sport SUVs where they are so big and clunky that the massive engines feel redundant, but then they have amazing speeds like this off-road, and even on road. really cool to see
Yeah I used to think that too, and almost bought one, but the maintenance threw me off a bit. Found a BMW M57 engine that actually produces more power when tuned and has more potential. The V10's don't really show much benefit from tuning and mods, unfortunately. And they weigh more, are harder to service, and get worse MPG. Easy choice.
Who would have thought when it came out but the Touareg TDI V10 is now considered an icon. Luxury, build quality, power, off-road ability and modifiablity. It's no LC, Patrol or Defender but it definitely has calved itself in there and in the heart of so many.
It actually has better 4X4 than any of the above, locking difs from the factory but worse articulation as it doesn't have a chassis but is of a monocoque design.
@@C_R_O_M________ The off-road abilities may be greater in number or useful more of the time, but the reason the others became icons was primarily reliability. You can have all the options you want that make it easier to do things, but they simply aren't as valuable if they reduce the most important metric of all; "Likelihood to get Home".
@@moogle68 The only such reliability issues (that can leave you stranded) these face (along with the Cayennes) have to do with the drive shaft center support and the rubber that disintegrates about every 80K kms. Mine did just that but there are many DYI and commercial solutions to address this (even on the trail). I chose the DYI route and after about a year everything's fine. The V10 has been with me for the past 10 years and it never asked for anything than regular maintenance. Remember, these engines don't even have drive belts in there. Nor timing chains (V10s and R5s not the rest of the Touareg models). Everything is driven with gears (apart from a very short and very wide and robust belt on the alternator that sits on top and at the back of the engine, in the "V" of the V10). That's it. Of course they are not as rugged as an old Land Cruiser or an old-school Defender but they will surprise you with their abilities. I used to own a highly tweaked K5 Blazer, lifted and suped-up and the Touareg has outperformed it in every single aspect apart perhaps from ground clearance. My V10 is standard. Not modded at all. P.S. The only real inmportant thing you need to be aware of with these is which oil you use. 5W40 and 501.01 for non-DPF models (like mine). DPF models need some 507 variant (can't remember which exactly). The 506.01 longlife oil VW has as an option resulted in premature camshaft lobe wear of the PD design.
@@C_R_O_M________ I wasn't trying to say the Toureg V10 was/is bad in any way, sorry if it came across that way. Not everyone is willing/able to do DIY fixes, and not everyone is well read/informed about common faults of the engine, so regardless of the technical consequences of those common faults, the fact that there are even just a couple problems with it that seem to be common might nag at driver confidence and make it feel a bit less approachable.
@@moogle68 No problem and there's nothing personal anyway. I'm just sharing my side of reality here as a long-term owner of one of these. I'm not married to it. Just like it a lot. It's not such a demanding vehicle to live with unless you want everything perfect at all times in which case the Touareg has a lot of complexity built into it and complexity usually means more little things malfunctioning but not in a way to leave you stranded.
Touareg has hill decent system too. It just does not have a button for that, activate low gear and put the gear in first in manual mode... It handles the rest
The suspension lock button is for off road mode, the second highest setting. The highest is Xtra mode and lowers to off road height at 15 mph. Off road mode auto lowers to Comfort height at 25mph. If you activate suspension lock off road mode won't lower until 45 mph. Built-in protection for axel angles.
The sound effect when Graham runs. I sorta missed him when it played in a drag race during the week, only to be given Graham content soon after. Well done! Love it when he falls over. My toddler has better balance.
Thank you carwow for finally adding a Discovery 5 to your off-road test. We haven't seen this car on the channel in yonks. I like the addition of the rock crawling too.
We have the Touareg V6 remapped to a shade under 300 bhp and it’s a monster Only problem is that it’s in the garage at the moment with a fuel issue. Just had it’s diagnostic done and there’s a problem with the fuel pump/ fuel pressure regulator.
Awesome episode. I feel like the recording of the exhaust didn’t do it justice, if you tune and delete a diesel v10 it should sound better than I heard and from Matt’s reaction in the car there seemed to be something he heard that we didn’t.
I don't think Carwow has good enough audio capture in pretty much any of their videos. I just think it's not a huge priority or something. All of their tests in their videos sound flat/boring/muted.
I have an executive package '14 Touareg (2) and it's as well equipped and handling as a new car, only the nav system is dated, even the gauge cluster had a screen and is quick to respond :) seeing this beast is giving me an itch 😍
You can see Nick is not ad confident an off road driver, the Disco did really well, both times the Touareg bet it, was down to driver error sadly. Have to say to Touareg looks awesome!
The Touareg had me at the exhausts. A puff of smoke thrown straight out of both sides is just one of the coolest things you can see on an offroader. Fair play to the Disco on winning though. Never bet against an LR offroad. Both great cars to watch and another interesting match up. Can we please get rid of the silly hill descent control bit though? If you're testing what the car can do it should be fine to use HDC or the brakes. Its not like the brakes don't work if you don't have HDC in the first place and a lot of the time just the ABS can do at least as good a job. It would be nice to see a bit longer drag race aswell if there's anywhere around there with the space.
Matt we're waiting to hear from you about you getting married and having a kid! You're a great guy and great guys deserve best things in life! Cheers from Kyrgyzstan!
As a Touareg owner, it impresses me every time I go off-road and my landcruiser and patrol owner friends never think I can keep up or even out drive them sometimes
I don't know what's the point of 11:30 challenge, where first car goes slowly, and then Mat goes quickly in the parts where the previous car slipped so he doesn't slip and just rushes through the section, how can you compare these two? What's the point of that?
This is my last car (2004 black Touareg) vs my present car (2017 silver and black Discovery). I bought the Touareg for 5k in 2016 and drove it until last month. It was a great car and just wouldn't die! I am really liking the Discovery though.
As a Discovery 5 owner, I am ecstatic about this result! I have seen this Disco 5 on UA-cam before. I mentioned then (in jest), but we used to have an endearing, but oddball Minister (of Chapel) in our village in Wales who's number plate started with PEJ (just like this one) and got the nickname from his number plate. Once again, I suspect that divine intervention was at play during this challenge also 🤣. Seriously though, Land Rover have some fantastic off-road technology in their vehicles and I honestly think it is criminal that they don't put as much effort into quality control of their electronics and rid themselves of their poor reliability reputation. So far, touch wood, I haven't had any problems with mine though.
JLR CEO said last year that they want to actively work towards increasing the reliability of all their vehicles. So hopefully all Land Rovers will be problem free like yours! 🤞
Doug Demuro but about 40K miles on his new Defender and the only thing that needed repairs was the sunroof. Pretty good for what was a ground up new build for LR. Seen a few people complain about the infotainment system but that's it... I've got a D4 with 310,000km... unopened engine... Drives like brand new even after 50,000+ kms off road touring.
I used to sell VWs back in those days and the Touareg definitely has hill decent control and you should have been able to set the speed between 2-5mph. I'm afraid to say how to get into that mode as it's been many years since I've sold or owned a Touareg.
Yep agreed - I sold them here in the states we definitely had hill descent control though I have no recollection of how it was enabled. It wasn't hidden or secret either, just a button or setting.
I own the V10 and had to decent a very steep muddy slope which without the decent feature (low range 1st gear - I don't think he activated it) I would have ended over a cliff. The car slows down to a crawl. It'd take me something like 30 secs to get down the slope they showed here. Sloppy test imho.
First gen Touareg was so cool.
And probably no car had a wider range of engines to chose from. 5,6,8,10 and 12 cylinders.
probably? FOR SURE ever/never had/will
and in both diesel and petrol
5? in what market? We had a MKI for 14 years... was a great car. I only sold it so I wouldn't spend 20k in mods to make it an overlander lol.
@@spinnetti 2.5TDI in Europe
@@spinnetti Europe and Southamerica, a horrible 2.5 TDI, very underpowered.
That exhaust pipe coming out right under the rear fender flare is an interesting customization 😂
This one is downright epic.
It's to aid with rear departure angle , if you took it all the way back you could crush it off road and if it didn't fully break you'd choke your engine and have to cut it off before continuing, or worse , if you didn't have the tools you'd be stuck.
@@purwantiallan5089 yep, 37 degrees 💪
Christ yousound fun at parties
I love the fender pipes!😂
That Touareg is legit just a real life Batman Tumbler
Batman Tumbler? Well its cool.
literally just a janky old SUV. The uk has no clue what offroading means anymore
get your bred up and get a bentley bro
Those V10’s are a bit dodgy for maintaining but they are absolute animals.
Yep. Especially the VW Touareg. It is very stable. As stable as even the Focus WRC 2001.
Or the Audi 6 Liter V12😂
I would prefer a Touareg with the W12, that version is just the coolest
@@heinzketchup4558 that’s a mad Jeep. Never been in one but I’ve seen one on the move and it’s pretty ridiculous
@@Quattro_Joe pretty much like a quicker Tank😂
Gotta love a V10 taurareg
Touareg*
Harry, it is the Touareg. Not tauareg. More like Ford Taurus that you mention.
tiny ass bicep
@@BigPimp222 You got issues, kid.
garbage
There is something about sport SUVs where they are so big and clunky that the massive engines feel redundant, but then they have amazing speeds like this off-road, and even on road. really cool to see
Sport suv........
Sport....Sport utility vehicle.
@@lonerider5315 the SUV cars kinda reminded me a lot to FORD RACING OFFROAD again.
yea, the Sports Sport Utility vehicle is quite sporty, twice as much as a regular SUV.
Double the sportiness
V10 TDI, love to see it, hate to repair it when it breaks.... Like the W12...
Yes. Like even the Buick Special and VW NARDO CONCEPT W12.
should have done a quarter-mile race to see which is the fastest.
Touareg would of won that race.
@@juanc5149 *would have
@@juanc5149would of what
@@alexnotlando *would of
@@CrazySpartan150 no
Damn V10 TDI is true beast incredible power and torque. hard to deny the raw power.
The Touareg with V10 TDI has around 411 bhp.
Yeah I used to think that too, and almost bought one, but the maintenance threw me off a bit. Found a BMW M57 engine that actually produces more power when tuned and has more potential. The V10's don't really show much benefit from tuning and mods, unfortunately. And they weigh more, are harder to service, and get worse MPG. Easy choice.
@@purwantiallan5089 no it hasn't its 352 Bhp. What nonsense are you talking about..😬
@Rasher basher he's the biggest nonsense talker on this channel. Comments 100 comments under every video
@@Insetta its some sort of bot I reckon.. theres loads that comment on this channel.
The way Matt drifted the Touareg just made my day!
Yes. Imagine if Mat also drifted the Renault 5 Turbo.
Yes i believe he learned that skill on a previous video
Who would have thought when it came out but the Touareg TDI V10 is now considered an icon. Luxury, build quality, power, off-road ability and modifiablity. It's no LC, Patrol or Defender but it definitely has calved itself in there and in the heart of so many.
It actually has better 4X4 than any of the above, locking difs from the factory but worse articulation as it doesn't have a chassis but is of a monocoque design.
@@C_R_O_M________ The off-road abilities may be greater in number or useful more of the time, but the reason the others became icons was primarily reliability. You can have all the options you want that make it easier to do things, but they simply aren't as valuable if they reduce the most important metric of all; "Likelihood to get Home".
@@moogle68 The only such reliability issues (that can leave you stranded) these face (along with the Cayennes) have to do with the drive shaft center support and the rubber that disintegrates about every 80K kms. Mine did just that but there are many DYI and commercial solutions to address this (even on the trail).
I chose the DYI route and after about a year everything's fine.
The V10 has been with me for the past 10 years and it never asked for anything than regular maintenance.
Remember, these engines don't even have drive belts in there. Nor timing chains (V10s and R5s not the rest of the Touareg models).
Everything is driven with gears (apart from a very short and very wide and robust belt on the alternator that sits on top and at the back of the engine, in the "V" of the V10). That's it.
Of course they are not as rugged as an old Land Cruiser or an old-school Defender but they will surprise you with their abilities.
I used to own a highly tweaked K5 Blazer, lifted and suped-up and the Touareg has outperformed it in every single aspect apart perhaps from ground clearance. My V10 is standard. Not modded at all.
P.S. The only real inmportant thing you need to be aware of with these is which oil you use. 5W40 and 501.01 for non-DPF models (like mine). DPF models need some 507 variant (can't remember which exactly). The 506.01 longlife oil VW has as an option resulted in premature camshaft lobe wear of the PD design.
@@C_R_O_M________ I wasn't trying to say the Toureg V10 was/is bad in any way, sorry if it came across that way. Not everyone is willing/able to do DIY fixes, and not everyone is well read/informed about common faults of the engine, so regardless of the technical consequences of those common faults, the fact that there are even just a couple problems with it that seem to be common might nag at driver confidence and make it feel a bit less approachable.
@@moogle68 No problem and there's nothing personal anyway. I'm just sharing my side of reality here as a long-term owner of one of these. I'm not married to it. Just like it a lot. It's not such a demanding vehicle to live with unless you want everything perfect at all times in which case the Touareg has a lot of complexity built into it and complexity usually means more little things malfunctioning but not in a way to leave you stranded.
Touraeg looks really damn good when modified like this. I love it.
Yes. I also love it.
0:17 "Off-road expert" as the guy is falling over 😂😂
Love to see Nick in another video, he doesn’t get enough screen time. Love his sarcasm and humour
Agree. Nick is a very charming guy.
@@Vm94-p7u HAHAHHAHAHA that was so funny.
The Touareg screams badass while the Discovery screams geeky. Good performance for both
Geeky?😂
@@skylined5534 yes, to me, the T-reg is 🦍 while the Discovery is 🤓 with its tech and the new design
Touareg has hill decent system too. It just does not have a button for that, activate low gear and put the gear in first in manual mode... It handles the rest
The suspension lock button is for off road mode, the second highest setting. The highest is Xtra mode and lowers to off road height at 15 mph. Off road mode auto lowers to Comfort height at 25mph. If you activate suspension lock off road mode won't lower until 45 mph. Built-in protection for axel angles.
The sound effect when Graham runs. I sorta missed him when it played in a drag race during the week, only to be given Graham content soon after. Well done!
Love it when he falls over. My toddler has better balance.
Thank you carwow for finally adding a Discovery 5 to your off-road test. We haven't seen this car on the channel in yonks. I like the addition of the rock crawling too.
Lovely comment
The VW Touareg has far better engine mileage than even the Nissan Pickup and 240RS.
it's cause most Discovery 5's are at the garage getting their engines fixed :))
Darkside developments another excellent example of what they can do
Graham makes this so funny 😂 he's oblivious to your jokes😂😂😂😂
Cracking video. Took. Me back a few years. Did a bit of quarry driving in my gaylander
If you have them both, i am sure you will love the Touareg more.
God no, not with that engine in particular.
@@skylined5534 not with v10? Probably w12 6.0 is better, low end torque is so smooth
We have the Touareg V6 remapped to a shade under 300 bhp and it’s a monster
Only problem is that it’s in the garage at the moment with a fuel issue.
Just had it’s diagnostic done and there’s a problem with the fuel pump/ fuel pressure regulator.
Love Darkside developments!! I have a 3.0l tdi in Canada and I dream of them added their special sauce 🔥
4:04 no one gonna talk about how nick jumped?
Awesome episode. I feel like the recording of the exhaust didn’t do it justice, if you tune and delete a diesel v10 it should sound better than I heard and from Matt’s reaction in the car there seemed to be something he heard that we didn’t.
I don't think Carwow has good enough audio capture in pretty much any of their videos. I just think it's not a huge priority or something. All of their tests in their videos sound flat/boring/muted.
Car wow always do sound checks before a drag race and it is strange they never bothered to record the sounds properly
Here come another entertaining video from my favorite UA-camr
The BF Goodrich Comp TA’s all-terrain tires probably help the discovery out a lot too! That’s what I always use on my Tacoma great Tire!!!
I have an executive package '14 Touareg (2) and it's as well equipped and handling as a new car, only the nav system is dated, even the gauge cluster had a screen and is quick to respond :) seeing this beast is giving me an itch 😍
That's not a Touareg that's a VW Tractor.
😂😂 Extra-large wheels
3:23 we all love that last bit Mat, we all do…
Agree. 😂
he was talking abt the exhaust but my dirty mind tells me that he could've been describing the feeling of a BJ♿️🤨
Land Rover's terrain response system is so impressive. 3.4t and it still did it so well in the mud.
This isn't getting commented on enough! Such a heavyweight with a high centre of gravity and yet handled everything with ease!
3:16 side fender pipes was a cool idea! I love the smokeshow too
Is it just me or do them "one life, live it" badges grate on you 10x more than the after market M badges on a BMW 🤣
No.
Discovery 1 & 2s from the council estate, near straight through exhausts and all where Hi Vis jackets
The best show! Greetings from Bulgaria!
No way that Disco has more ground clearance than that Touareg.
It actually has lol!!!
Those side steps..
It had LLAMS installed and set to extended ride height
This Touareg has fixed 15 inches clearance, all first generation Touaregs up to 18 inches.
That Range Rover was elegance personified on everything! I wonder if they got it modded for carrying that weight.
The battle of the off road beasts...😂
Mat thank you so much for this insane video!
The D5 is underrated it’s a very capable vehicle!
Another awesome Carwow off-road race with 2 tuned beasts from VW and Toyota!
Those V10 Tourag transmissions couldn't handle the torque. I was in one with orange seat belt straps, coolest car, quick too!
Disco wins the now challenge, see which one is still running in a couple of years 😂
There’s something very cool about Touaregs, timeless
You can see Nick is not ad confident an off road driver, the Disco did really well, both times the Touareg bet it, was down to driver error sadly.
Have to say to Touareg looks awesome!
the off-road expert's entry was awesome 😂😂
Why is Graham Humiliated in every off road challenge video 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love that V10 Touareg!
Damn that V10 has got quite a few miles
Touareg has extra power.
@@purwantiallan5089 ik
@@purwantiallan5089 stating the obvious🤔
It loves it. I've been all over in this car!
@@rasherbasher8203 🤣
Love both, the VW is so proper for off-roading
Next episode : See which engine lasts longer till it blows? 🤔
No these cars are in pretty good condition
Not a bad idea lol
Hell nah, these cars are to prestine to be broken, if it was falling to bits then maybe. Vw would win 100%
@@chrism869 but we can't be certain until tests are run from now on 🤣
@D who knows, either way it's most likely not going to happen, these are not beaters.
Their never gonna let Ghram live down that fall, 😂
Perfect place to get knowledge about cars ..
Awesome
Give me the vw anyday. What an animal 😍
Good luck with that V10 though.
This channel reminds me of classic Top Gear; great job mates!
If the back of a car had a stroke, it would look like the discovery
Graham is full of it. Touareg did way better in the last challenge. Very fun to watch.
Discovery for ever come on England 🏴
*india
@@Gazza-is2tk MA men I am telling you India is a part of the British empire 🤦♂️🌹. Is the same !!!!
The Touareg had me at the exhausts. A puff of smoke thrown straight out of both sides is just one of the coolest things you can see on an offroader.
Fair play to the Disco on winning though. Never bet against an LR offroad.
Both great cars to watch and another interesting match up.
Can we please get rid of the silly hill descent control bit though? If you're testing what the car can do it should be fine to use HDC or the brakes. Its not like the brakes don't work if you don't have HDC in the first place and a lot of the time just the ABS can do at least as good a job.
It would be nice to see a bit longer drag race aswell if there's anywhere around there with the space.
Finally got the video for the Touareg!!!!!!
Land Rover has to win!!! That it is all about... The last 2 trials was definitely won by VW.
Great video .. PLEASE get the V12 Q7 on here!!
I love that lass bit 😂
It's quite obvious that Mat is the one who is paying Graham 😂. He gotta secure his paycheck
in harder off road conditions, that touareg with that lift and tyres size (maybe 33' inch) would be way better than the discovery
I love how the Volkswagen is a 5.0 V10 and the Discovery is a 3.0 V6 (proportionality)
Bro Mat on the hill descent control challenge you could just start driving and put your car on cruise control 😂😂
The random belt lying in the mud @ 11:31 Lol
Matt we're waiting to hear from you about you getting married and having a kid! You're a great guy and great guys deserve best things in life! Cheers from Kyrgyzstan!
Love that Graham's default intro card is him falling over
The Graham introduction with the sort falling scene cracked me up
Can you please do an offroad challenge of the Isuzu MUX,,,,the Hyundai Santa Fe and the Toyota Fortuner
I just love the Touareg 😎👏🏼
And the Discovery looks a million times better too... Wins on both counts in my mind.
I, for one, would love to see Nick do a car review episode. I've got a feeling he'd be great.
Now this was proper off-road testing!
awesome TOUAREG beautiful modification
As a Touareg owner, it impresses me every time I go off-road and my landcruiser and patrol owner friends never think I can keep up or even out drive them sometimes
I don't know what's the point of 11:30 challenge, where first car goes slowly, and then Mat goes quickly in the parts where the previous car slipped so he doesn't slip and just rushes through the section, how can you compare these two? What's the point of that?
That tuned VW Touareg is the Darkside of the VW Touareg!
That makes no sense
Excellent test Matt
This is my last car (2004 black Touareg) vs my present car (2017 silver and black Discovery). I bought the Touareg for 5k in 2016 and drove it until last month. It was a great car and just wouldn't die! I am really liking the Discovery though.
Mat survived the engine explosion!
Matt out here showing off his mastery of girth, haha ;).
As a Discovery 5 owner, I am ecstatic about this result! I have seen this Disco 5 on UA-cam before. I mentioned then (in jest), but we used to have an endearing, but oddball Minister (of Chapel) in our village in Wales who's number plate started with PEJ (just like this one) and got the nickname from his number plate. Once again, I suspect that divine intervention was at play during this challenge also 🤣. Seriously though, Land Rover have some fantastic off-road technology in their vehicles and I honestly think it is criminal that they don't put as much effort into quality control of their electronics and rid themselves of their poor reliability reputation. So far, touch wood, I haven't had any problems with mine though.
JLR CEO said last year that they want to actively work towards increasing the reliability of all their vehicles. So hopefully all Land Rovers will be problem free like yours! 🤞
There absolutely crap allways have been allways will be. Best thing to do is sell it 😂
@@jabberwockytdi8901
Which parts in particular?
This should be good...
@@snakeybriskins6432
Seeing as you've never sat in one less owned one how could someone like you possibly comment😂
Doug Demuro but about 40K miles on his new Defender and the only thing that needed repairs was the sunroof. Pretty good for what was a ground up new build for LR. Seen a few people complain about the infotainment system but that's it... I've got a D4 with 310,000km... unopened engine... Drives like brand new even after 50,000+ kms off road touring.
Need to see more of Nick in your videos, he's great!
can you do a heavily modified old defender vs a standard old defender
Take out the gumshield 😂
now that is a proper car video
super intresting, do more quirky stuff like this !!
We aint getting V10 suvs anymore thats for sure.😢
A drag race with all Volkswagen Buses would be cool!! Like T1, T2, T3, T4, T5, T6, T6.1 and ID Buzz
touareg fanboy here. I'd take it over the land any day. it looks badass
Batmobile
I'll take that land Rover its actually badass and handled that over 1 ton added load very well
Toureg fanboy? You must feel lonely 😂 they are garbage
@@carholic-sz3qv the ass had a stroke tho
These cars would make a great tug of war video
A tuned Land Rober is truly a workshop owner dream 😅
Rober :)
And we want a 1600 hp gtr vs McMurtry
Hopefully this comment gets enough likes so carwow sees this because that would be an awesome one to watch.
Or what about XJ13 vs 1000bhp R34GT-R?
Mc murty wins gtr has no chance even if 3000hp
That Touareg is definitely the best car here.
Real life off-road would kill instantly that very reliable range.
The heading should be.. 2 Buckets of Shit go head to head.. Which will breakdown first..!! 😂
8:14 did you put 1st gear or 2nd gear? Seems like 2nd gear.
I used to sell VWs back in those days and the Touareg definitely has hill decent control and you should have been able to set the speed between 2-5mph. I'm afraid to say how to get into that mode as it's been many years since I've sold or owned a Touareg.
Touareg kinda reminded me to Lancer EVO 6 just show how stable that car was.
I agree, I own 1 here in Australia and the first gear low range decent is perfect. I don't think they had it set tbh
Yep agreed - I sold them here in the states we definitely had hill descent control though I have no recollection of how it was enabled. It wasn't hidden or secret either, just a button or setting.
@@oskar6661 I want to say darn near everything was run thru the scroller on the steering wheel with the options displayed on the instrument panel.
I own the V10 and had to decent a very steep muddy slope which without the decent feature (low range 1st gear - I don't think he activated it) I would have ended over a cliff. The car slows down to a crawl. It'd take me something like 30 secs to get down the slope they showed here. Sloppy test imho.