Excellent analysis. I absolutely love this movie. Have seen it numerous times and it gets better (tougher) each time. Until I watched this video I had not picked up on the significance of Hanna committing suicide by standing on the books she had read. The education that she got from the books gave her the depth of character to finally realize what she had done and she couldn't live with it. Michael (like the rest of his generation) has the guilt of knowing that someone he knows and loves was capable of such horrible things. As Michael's classmates said, 'They all knew!' So that generation struggles with the knowledge of what their parents, grandparents did and didn't do and try to reconcile that with their affection for them. At least that's my take on it.
I don’t know how I ended watching this movie, then here for your discussion? But, I’m glad I did. I certainly look forward to watching all of your videos, and the movies you’ve picked to watch, and discuss. This subject is so heavy, and I can’t really add words to it. I think of an old friend who worked at a warehouse, near a warehouse I worked at. Benno was his name. I was in my late twenties, early thirties, he must have been in his 60’s as I am now. I remember him showing me his tattoo from the camps. I remember a few conversations, and events, from those days. I really loved your discussion herein. Thank you, so much.
Wait the promotion to a desk job by the tram supervisor happened post-war that's why she left without saying a word to Michael it was because she went to look for a different job that didn't require reading or writing. But we can infer from that scene that it could have also been the same reason she left her job at Siemens to become an SS guard. A lot of those guards were kids themselves brainwashed and following blindly, it doesn't excuse their actions but it does help you understand the why. It's the same with child soldiers in Africa today for example or kids who grow up with parents in any extremist group. Brainwashed and in their own bubble.
no. Post war was the promotion from tram conductor to working in their offices - that's when she disappears. Siemens was during the war.@@chrissyknowsitall5170
Your explanation is so awesome that I cannot even imagine the pyschological feelings evolved into the mind of Hannah and Michael. But Now I am completely understand the whole picture.💯💯👍👍
Please can you explain Why Michel behaved cold when they two meet in prison. It's okay if he doesn't feel the same way, but then what was the need to send those tapes. If you never want to interact then don't but sending those he produced a small hope inside Hannah and when after so many years Hannah was to meet him, imagine her happiness hut Michael destroyed it in seconds. What was Michel expecting when he asked Hannah about the past that whether she thinks about it or not..He wanted to hear--"Michael I am so sorry. I realize now what wrongs I have done and only because of your kindness to teach me read and write". Hannah if guilty will never be so dramatic and confess her guilt.She knows she is guilty and she made ammends in her own way but would never advertise her feelings to the world. Michael of all people should have understood this about her. Also I think she accepted guilt and started to be positive in nature only because she thought Michael is still there and still loves her. In prison she tried changing so to become worthy for him..but Mr Michael too much thinking about what's right and wrong eventually destroyed everything.
About the fist paragraph of your question, as the author has said, Michael wanted to have a connection with her... She was a very important part of her past and he has this bold history with her so he wanted a connection but he was feeling guilty to be engaged with her. So he was stepping forward but also not getting too close to her
About second paragraph I believe not. He asked her to see if she is feeling guilty about past if she regrets her action... Just imagine you love someone and you want that person to be a pure and a nice human being so seeing them being guilty of a big crime doesn't make you feel good so as a result you would like to see them, at least, regret what they have done.
U don't think Hannah was trying to change herself for him....she just knows what she's done. And she killed herself because there was nothing more to live for. She lived long, did so many things, loved a person, could get to this bility to read her favorite books and now there was nothing more to live for and plus she could feel people's heavy look on her. So Boom...she killed herself.
@@FilmFactElly if this was the case ( hanna killing herself because of feeling guilty) she would have done it long ago. Micheal behaved very cold and heartlessly to her (in the last week of her finishing her sentence) which ended her hopes and that's why she killed herself.
@@FilmFactEllyI think when the guard said that Hanna is quite different since last two years that means that Hannah has finally moved past the guilt. But because of Michael's poor choice of words she realized that the world is never going to forget what she did. And no matter what she can't bring the dead back. She lost all hope and decided to kill herself.
The missable aspect of Hanna is her on and off indifference, and the topic of indifference is brought up, Hanna is very good at bottling up her feeling and even behaving like nothing is wrong and conducting herself accordingly with modesty and respect, shes even so good at it i questioned (and i still do at times)if her characters did not have some form of psychopathy aka being a psychopath. But i dont think so in conclusion i think she was more rigid and stern even at her own detriment.
After watching the film I came to this realization: that Embarrassment and Shame are viewed equally and incorrectly. Embarrassment is something that through no fault of ones own the person does not want to "show the world" the thing that embarrasses them. Being embarrassed as an adult that they cannot read while "even" children (as seen at the restaurant scene) do have this skill. But that is embarrassment not shame because it is not Hanna's fault that she was uneducated as a child it might be her parents fault and thus their shame but not hers. Meanwhile, her co defendants should feel shame because they obviously collude together to say that Hanna Wrote the report regarding the fire incident knowing full well that she did not do it. Not necessarily because they are aware of her illiteracy but because it is impossible to See a person write something when they cannot write because they are illiterate and for that they should feel shame because Shame is for something someone does that is "through fault of their own". However, this does not let Hanna off the hook because of her shame, she allows the other six to get short prison sentences for their own participation in the murder at the church not to mention the camp for which they should feel shame and be punished for the guilt that they share. For letting that happen Hannah should feel shame for the fact that her embarrassment let those that should have felt shame and definitely had guilt go relatively unpunished. So my final conclusion of this film: one does not need to be literate to know right from wrong and her embarrassment which is a lesser sin in the pecking order of things deserves shame for allowing the others to get away with a proper punishment for guilt in a horrible crime. Succinctly put 6 shitty Nazis didn't get the punishment they deserved at all because of Hannah's embarrassment for something (being illiterate) that was not her fault.
I’ve watched a few of the videos explaining the movie but none has explained the conversation with the daughter of the only survivor of the fire. What I think is, the woman that survived was saved by Anna because she’s her sister as seen in the picture stared at by her daughter in the ending parts. What do y’all think?
No I don't think that's the case .... I've the book and as long as I remember there is not even a scene like that of her staring at a picture.... It's not possible
Greetings, Has anyone seen a version of this film, where Michael, searches for Hannah, at the tram, after she disapears???? I see it shown in reviews,and the image is on my old dvd. However, the scene is deleted, yet, not included in the deleted scenes. I must sed it, I simply must.
Does anyone notice that malther daughter could be one of the person built a special relationship with Hanna? Like sisters or best friend, some dialogues abd scenes indicated that. The girl cried upon hearing sentence to hanna The girl fond of tin can of michael bring along The girl is the little girl with a "puppy" hairs And hanna very fond the story of little giel with puppy story by anton chekov. And the malthers were among the only survived among the 300victims were the mother said all of victim died fron fire but them (the malthers) And she was partly saddened upon parting with michael after discusssing about hanna and what to do with 7000DM she left.
Having understood what made her, Eichmann, and Höss capable of destroying innocent people, Hanna kills herself because she discovers that Michael has become what she once was. these are Google words and i don't understand it clearly
her and his feelings did not matter he had an OBLIGATION to come forward as a future officer of the court in the end he buried crucial information and it's the kind of thing that an attorney can be disbarred for good reason, it's called corruption.
i have a question ❓ in last hanna hung herself, all the books Michael sent, I don't think these books were about war and crimes she made against people or she gets the understanding of her false deeds because these books were romantic as we see hannas letter where she wrote ' (send more romance) so according to it she didn't kill herself because of shame of killing people. please can someone help me understanding this? i have already watched this movie for 5 time just to understand the reason behind her death
i see it like... the realisation that she will have nothing left to live for when she gets out, suddenly dawns on her. she sees it like, she's served her time, she is old now, michael no longer loves her, no friends or family on the outside. she feels her life is finished now
I read the book and watched the movie too and I can conclude that the loneliness she was going to face when she got out of prison made her commit suicide.(Michael never sent her letters back and at their last meeting she realized that he had no feelings for her.).
I always wanted to know this too. He could have helped her, spoken up and possibly reduced her sentence. I thought he was soft and a little bit weak for staying silent. He could have helped her more considering the depth of the love they once felt for one another.
I was in disbelief that was what was going on in the movie so I came here for an explanation. AND YES, she did choose life in prison instead of admitting she couldn't read. What a stupid plot. I'm sorry but yeah I said it
Ikr I liked the whole vibe of the movie but by the end I was like '????' Do they ever address why she left him without saying a thing even tho she loved him? I thought I didn't understand bcz Netflix might've cut some scenes out.
same reason she was illiterate...... she was promoted at her job but accepting the promotion would mean her secret of illiteracy would be out, so she left ...... She was guilty anyways, even if she could prove that she didn't write the report it would only lessen her sentence not prove her not guilty. Reading the book, I never once thought anything was stupid because it was so well put together...... can't say about the movie as I haven't watched it yet
She wouldn’t admit to the report not because she was illiterate, but because her actions were unforgivable. At the end of the film the Jewish woman says “Nothing comes out of the camps. Nothing” That includes the guards. All of their souls were corrupted. Hannah is a very passionate person whose soul was corrupted. But she had more integrity than any of the other women on trial because she actually grasped the bigger picture. That what she did was unforgivable and there would never be absolution. Her story is the inner struggle she feels to be a human again while coming to terms with what she did. Which is something that is impossible to come to terms with.
Yeah I actually meant yes....I support the "action" for sure... But she had nothing left plus this dark background was following her. So the choice was between worse and worst. What do u think?
Excellent analysis. I absolutely love this movie. Have seen it numerous times and it gets better (tougher) each time. Until I watched this video I had not picked up on the significance of Hanna committing suicide by standing on the books she had read. The education that she got from the books gave her the depth of character to finally realize what she had done and she couldn't live with it. Michael (like the rest of his generation) has the guilt of knowing that someone he knows and loves was capable of such horrible things. As Michael's classmates said, 'They all knew!' So that generation struggles with the knowledge of what their parents, grandparents did and didn't do and try to reconcile that with their affection for them. At least that's my take on it.
This story also shows in a grandiose way; that all catastrophic situation are caused by non telling the truth no matter what consequences!!!!
I don’t know how I ended watching this movie, then here for your discussion? But, I’m glad I did. I certainly look forward to watching all of your videos, and the movies you’ve picked to watch, and discuss. This subject is so heavy, and I can’t really add words to it. I think of an old friend who worked at a warehouse, near a warehouse I worked at. Benno was his name. I was in my late twenties, early thirties, he must have been in his 60’s as I am now. I remember him showing me his tattoo from the camps. I remember a few conversations, and events, from those days. I really loved your discussion herein. Thank you, so much.
I'm glad you liked it💜
Wait the promotion to a desk job by the tram supervisor happened post-war that's why she left without saying a word to Michael it was because she went to look for a different job that didn't require reading or writing. But we can infer from that scene that it could have also been the same reason she left her job at Siemens to become an SS guard. A lot of those guards were kids themselves brainwashed and following blindly, it doesn't excuse their actions but it does help you understand the why. It's the same with child soldiers in Africa today for example or kids who grow up with parents in any extremist group. Brainwashed and in their own bubble.
Yes you are totally right. Her promotion happened after the World War 2.
no. Post war was the promotion from tram conductor to working in their offices - that's when she disappears. Siemens was during the war.@@chrissyknowsitall5170
In the book the author makes it even more clear, there an explicit passage in which Michael takes this same conclusion
Your explanation is so awesome that I cannot even imagine the pyschological feelings evolved into the mind of Hannah and Michael. But Now I am completely understand the whole picture.💯💯👍👍
thank you dear
it feel great when someone says exactly the same things which are going through your head. Perfect explanation, keep it up.
Thank you for explaining the details. I was a bit confused in some scenes.
Please can you explain Why Michel behaved cold when they two meet in prison. It's okay if he doesn't feel the same way, but then what was the need to send those tapes. If you never want to interact then don't but sending those he produced a small hope inside Hannah and when after so many years Hannah was to meet him, imagine her happiness hut Michael destroyed it in seconds.
What was Michel expecting when he asked Hannah about the past that whether she thinks about it or not..He wanted to hear--"Michael I am so sorry. I realize now what wrongs I have done and only because of your kindness to teach me read and write".
Hannah if guilty will never be so dramatic and confess her guilt.She knows she is guilty and she made ammends in her own way but would never advertise her feelings to the world. Michael of all people should have understood this about her.
Also I think she accepted guilt and started to be positive in nature only because she thought Michael is still there and still loves her. In prison she tried changing so to become worthy for him..but Mr Michael too much thinking about what's right and wrong eventually destroyed everything.
About the fist paragraph of your question, as the author has said, Michael wanted to have a connection with her... She was a very important part of her past and he has this bold history with her so he wanted a connection but he was feeling guilty to be engaged with her. So he was stepping forward but also not getting too close to her
About second paragraph I believe not. He asked her to see if she is feeling guilty about past if she regrets her action... Just imagine you love someone and you want that person to be a pure and a nice human being so seeing them being guilty of a big crime doesn't make you feel good so as a result you would like to see them, at least, regret what they have done.
U don't think Hannah was trying to change herself for him....she just knows what she's done. And she killed herself because there was nothing more to live for. She lived long, did so many things, loved a person, could get to this bility to read her favorite books and now there was nothing more to live for and plus she could feel people's heavy look on her. So Boom...she killed herself.
@@FilmFactElly if this was the case ( hanna killing herself because of feeling guilty) she would have done it long ago. Micheal behaved very cold and heartlessly to her (in the last week of her finishing her sentence) which ended her hopes and that's why she killed herself.
@@FilmFactEllyI think when the guard said that Hanna is quite different since last two years that means that Hannah has finally moved past the guilt. But because of Michael's poor choice of words she realized that the world is never going to forget what she did. And no matter what she can't bring the dead back. She lost all hope and decided to kill herself.
The missable aspect of Hanna is her on and off indifference, and the topic of indifference is brought up, Hanna is very good at bottling up her feeling and even behaving like nothing is wrong and conducting herself accordingly with modesty and respect, shes even so good at it i questioned (and i still do at times)if her characters did not have some form of psychopathy aka being a psychopath. But i dont think so in conclusion i think she was more rigid and stern even at her own detriment.
Yes shame is a big deal .. 🌷👍🏻
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After watching the film I came to this realization: that Embarrassment and Shame are viewed equally and incorrectly. Embarrassment is something that through no fault of ones own the person does not want to "show the world" the thing that embarrasses them. Being embarrassed as an adult that they cannot read while "even" children (as seen at the restaurant scene) do have this skill. But that is embarrassment not shame because it is not Hanna's fault that she was uneducated as a child it might be her parents fault and thus their shame but not hers. Meanwhile, her co defendants should feel shame because they obviously collude together to say that Hanna Wrote the report regarding the fire incident knowing full well that she did not do it. Not necessarily because they are aware of her illiteracy but because it is impossible to See a person write something when they cannot write because they are illiterate and for that they should feel shame because Shame is for something someone does that is "through fault of their own". However, this does not let Hanna off the hook because of her shame, she allows the other six to get short prison sentences for their own participation in the murder at the church not to mention the camp for which they should feel shame and be punished for the guilt that they share. For letting that happen Hannah should feel shame for the fact that her embarrassment let those that should have felt shame and definitely had guilt go relatively unpunished. So my final conclusion of this film: one does not need to be literate to know right from wrong and her embarrassment which is a lesser sin in the pecking order of things deserves shame for allowing the others to get away with a proper punishment for guilt in a horrible crime. Succinctly put 6 shitty Nazis didn't get the punishment they deserved at all because of Hannah's embarrassment for something (being illiterate) that was not her fault.
I’ve watched a few of the videos explaining the movie but none has explained the conversation with the daughter of the only survivor of the fire. What I think is, the woman that survived was saved by Anna because she’s her sister as seen in the picture stared at by her daughter in the ending parts. What do y’all think?
I think you're tripping
@@hetnon how?
No I don't think that's the case .... I've the book and as long as I remember there is not even a scene like that of her staring at a picture....
It's not possible
I think I've seen, felt and believe the same thing like you. It was hanna in her family photograph on her table, next to the tea tin she placed there.
Greetings, Has anyone seen a version of this film, where Michael, searches for Hannah, at the tram, after she disapears????
I see it shown in reviews,and the image is on my old dvd. However, the scene is deleted, yet, not included in the deleted scenes.
I must sed it, I simply must.
It’s common to include shots in a trailer that are not in the final film. Often a trailer will come out while a film is still being edited.
I love the way you explained the small details.. thank you
thank u honey
Does anyone notice that malther daughter could be one of the person built a special relationship with Hanna? Like sisters or best friend, some dialogues abd scenes indicated that.
The girl cried upon hearing sentence to hanna
The girl fond of tin can of michael bring along
The girl is the little girl with a "puppy" hairs
And hanna very fond the story of little giel with puppy story by anton chekov.
And the malthers were among the only survived among the 300victims were the mother said all of victim died fron fire but them (the malthers)
And she was partly saddened upon parting with michael after discusssing about hanna and what to do with 7000DM she left.
Thank god someone actually brought this up.
Nice job! God bless you!
Thank you.
very impressive...
thanks a bunch
Thanks for such a great Explanation!
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Having understood what made her, Eichmann, and Höss capable of destroying innocent people, Hanna kills herself because she discovers that Michael has become what she once was. these are Google words and i don't understand it clearly
her and his feelings did not matter he had an OBLIGATION to come forward as a future officer of the court in the end he buried crucial information and it's the kind of thing that an attorney can be disbarred for good reason, it's called corruption.
I got that your love. Can sometimes. Turn her back on you . Or be evil ?? And he was lost ever since. ??
i have a question ❓
in last hanna hung herself, all the books Michael sent, I don't think these books were about war and crimes she made against people or she gets the understanding of her false deeds because these books were romantic as we see hannas letter where she wrote ' (send more romance)
so according to it she didn't kill herself because of shame of killing people. please can someone help me understanding this? i have already watched this movie for 5 time just to understand the reason behind her death
i see it like... the realisation that she will have nothing left to live for when she gets out, suddenly dawns on her. she sees it like, she's served her time, she is old now, michael no longer loves her, no friends or family on the outside. she feels her life is finished now
I read the book and watched the movie too and I can conclude that the loneliness she was going to face when she got out of prison made her commit suicide.(Michael never sent her letters back and at their last meeting she realized that he had no feelings for her.).
Why Michael didn't reveal Hannah's secret and saved her from 20 year imprisonment?
Because Hannah herself didn't want to reveal it. She was shameful of the fact that she was illiterate.
Because he was feeling vengeance towards her for leaving him without prior intimation.
I always wanted to know this too. He could have helped her, spoken up and possibly reduced her sentence. I thought he was soft and a little bit weak for staying silent. He could have helped her more considering the depth of the love they once felt for one another.
@@paulyridler He realized even if he had done it, she will denied it in the court because of her shame or pride, I read it in the book.
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I was in disbelief that was what was going on in the movie so I came here for an explanation. AND YES, she did choose life in prison instead of admitting she couldn't read. What a stupid plot. I'm sorry but yeah I said it
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Ikr I liked the whole vibe of the movie but by the end I was like '????' Do they ever address why she left him without saying a thing even tho she loved him? I thought I didn't understand bcz Netflix might've cut some scenes out.
same reason she was illiterate...... she was promoted at her job but accepting the promotion would mean her secret of illiteracy would be out, so she left ......
She was guilty anyways, even if she could prove that she didn't write the report it would only lessen her sentence not prove her not guilty.
Reading the book, I never once thought anything was stupid because it was so well put together...... can't say about the movie as I haven't watched it yet
I got that love .1st love is evil act.
She wouldn’t admit to the report not because she was illiterate, but because her actions were unforgivable. At the end of the film the Jewish woman says “Nothing comes out of the camps. Nothing” That includes the guards. All of their souls were corrupted. Hannah is a very passionate person whose soul was corrupted. But she had more integrity than any of the other women on trial because she actually grasped the bigger picture. That what she did was unforgivable and there would never be absolution. Her story is the inner struggle she feels to be a human again while coming to terms with what she did. Which is something that is impossible to come to terms with.
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the fact that the boy kept quiet makes me have feeling close to dislike for this movie
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Genuine question: was it the right thing to do for Hanna to commit suicide?
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@@FilmFactElly yes?
Yeah I actually meant yes....I support the "action" for sure... But she had nothing left plus this dark background was following her. So the choice was between worse and worst. What do u think?
@@FilmFactElly idk. It was hard for me to see that final convo with her and Michael. It really stuck with me
Yeahh
Which accent is that ..
persian
@@FilmFactElly I have a friend from Iran too . He speaks Farsi. nice :-)
@@danielchristopher6138 o nice. say hello to him for me
Your accent is a bit hard to understand.
I will try more
@@FilmFactEllyyour english is so good! i'm a native speaker and i understand you perfectly without any effort, don't worry :)