How the Ukraine war became stuck | BBC News
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- Almost two years since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the front line of the war has barely moved in 12 months.
Both sides have launched counter-offensives but just 900km2 of land changed hands in the second year of the war, compared with 130,000km2 in the first.
The BBC’s analysis editor Ros Atkins looks at what three locations on the front line tell us about the reasons the war has become stuck.
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If by stuck you mean Ukraine is losing, than yes..
It's interesting that you give the figures for Russian troops killed in Avdiivka but not the figures for Ukrainian troops killed there. Very interesting.
Western Media laughed at Russian defensive line before counter offensive
then they ended up copying it.
its called propaganda
I remember we laughed a lot at “Dragon’s Teeth,” and now Ukraine is making the same fortifications as the Russian Federation. 😂😂
same western media are now sweating because Tucker Carlson bring Putin to the Screens. and now western Media are in Panic.
They laughed at Russian cope cages and now we see them on Israeli tanks let alone Ukrainian.
Imagine being ukraine losing your loved one in the war and then finding out that there was a peace offer on the table but some guy told your leader not to sign it.... ouch!
Exactly
and your stupid leader listen instead of thinking of his people and country.
If the BBC thinks it is "stuck" they need to keep up to date with events in Adviivka. The Ukraine position is operationally surrounded and about to collapse.
Remember Bakhmut
It's been like this for over a year now. With this tempo they will eventually capture it, I'm just not sure whether it will be in 2025 or 2026.
BBC news are now BBC delirious. , Stuck? Stuck my A***
@@GLADICEK2 It will be in a week.
@@GLADICEK2 Yes because the days of large scale offensives are over when it's two opponents fairly equal in technology and capabilitiers. Both sides tried, both sides suffered immeasurably. It's obvious Russia has changed strategies to smaller scale and more volume in attacks, which is why they took Bakhmut in a long time, launching troops and tanks all at once is how you lose them without taking the cities.
People said the same with Bakhmutm, then it fell...
Based on what we’ve been seeing over the last few months with the progressive creep of the Russians and the terrible personnel losses of Ukraine it’s looking like things will be moving a lot faster this year 😬
Agreed. This doesnt report on Adiivka very well - up to date news tells us that Russia has a foothold in the city are very close to entrapping the city which is full of Ukranian troops and Western military
Probably.
Calling it a standstill is like believing in Ghost of Kyiv 😂😂
Cope. Russia is just too weak to move forward.
Russia IS moving forward. Avdeevka, Chasov Yar, Novomihailovka - all important hubs
@@snaileriwhy is not Ukraine moving forward? Too weak?
@@snaileri try harder beglinzky's puppet from begraine land!
@@alexanderpepkin4110Russia haven't even taken avdiivka yet after 2 years of trying, that's really nothing to be proud of for the country who want us to believe they're a superpower
Ukraine's casualties are less? wonder why Ukraine is running out of soldiers?
Smaller country?
BBC is fake news but it's funny
@@oronjoffewestern media is coping hard.
Why doesn't the BBC mention Ukrainian loses?
Becuse bbc fund Ukrain and america
Because it supports Ukraine and has a vested interest in minimizing Ukrainian losses while maximizing Russia's.
Because they have an agenda and are not interested in providing accurate and unbiased information
@@_ArsNovaand doing exactly the opposite
They won't because Ukrainians are expendables and Ukraine is nothing but a British "Battle Lab."
It’s not stuck. Russia is actively taking ground as we speak, such as Marinka. Avdiivka, a major fortress city, is encircled and about to fall, which you are intentionally being misleading about.
Avdiivka had a pre war population of 30 thousand
tf do you mean "major fortress city" lmao
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 that’s literally what Avdiuvka is. Nobody is disputing it’s a fortress city.
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 A city that was recaptured and held by the Ukrainians since 2014. You can even see the trenches on google maps, its one of the most fortified cities on earth
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981it's was a fortress, underground bunkers, command centres the lot
@user-iv1po3rr8g I think after 2 years of war the russians calling a small outskirt not even 10km away from Donetsk a fortress city is pretty sad.
Russia was at the doors of Kiev!!!
And now they celebrate over ruined town number 8 which has been on the frontline since 2014.
Come on man.
How far Russia has fallen.
Why haven't they sent the Avengers in yet?
Copyright.
@@everTriumph the answer perfect
Well the new captain America is busy fighting for black lives matter
They gave Zelensky an Academy Award, isn't that sufficient?
They are the next Western gamechanging wonder weapon.
A complicated way of saying that offence is harder than defence, especially when you don’t have a full set of forces and air superiority!
@davidpowell7614
Huh??? Apparently you know absolutely nothing about war, thanks, Commander………. 🤨
Probably best if you just go back to playing your video games……😉
@@bkh8528Why don't you tell us about war or correct what he is saying? Truth is you play the video games and then project your failures onto others. Sad.
Ok just to be clear the plan was for Ukraine to hold out until western sanction causes Russia to collapse (which it has't) from within, NO country , or analyst not even NATO , expected Ukraine to beat Russia militarily , Russia military is designed for WW2 style warfare and has a big population and strong arms industry . Russia only struggled initially because it didn't prepare for a long war, it thought Ukraine wouldn't put up a fight , it seems both sides underestimated themselves going into this. But now Russia has adapted and its playing the long game of sitting tight and grinding down Ukraine with its artillery advantage and drones .
Yes . The prediction was they would completely collapse in
Economic terms after 2 months.
Then they would run out of missiles / weapons etc. All reported as fact by the BBC !
But the spin to the public to secure more billions in tax payer's money was that Ukraine could win. So we should differentiate between the lies they use to continue their money laundering, and their actual realistic plan.
Some people have been saying that for years, but so far only minor changes to the original battle position have happened. Support Ukraine support democracy.
It is delusion to believe Ukraine is a democracy. Freedom of speech is crippled, you are either pro Ukraine or a Russian collaborator and imprisoned. I don’t blame them for this as it’s wartime, but it’s naive to believe there is freedom in Ukraine.
And losing thousands of lives. madness
50 countries and USA proxy Ukraine against Russia and they lost 😂😂
NATO is at home at the moment with its feet on the sofa watching Downton Abbey. All they have done is supply some weapons, intelligence and training to friends in need. When you see say the Dwight D Eisenhower appear over the horizon to join the party then the games will begin.
@@marviwilson1853 NATO is too cowardly to openly fight a nuclear power, Russia is not Yugoslavia, it can strike back.
@@user-vu2oz1vv1p I don’t think the word is ‘cowardly’. NATO just isn’t stupid, as directly fighting a nuclear power would be a very tragic move
@@Luke_05 one does not cancel out the other. It was also an unwise move to provoke Russia by approaching its borders despite warnings.
@@user-vu2oz1vv1p Nafo before the war: "ukies will joint NATO"
Russia: "be careful with that wish"
Nafo: "he's bluffing"
The rest is history.
It’s not stuck. Russia is advancing in Avdiivka
Might as well name the other positions that the Ukrainians are taking back then. Avdiivka is putin main goal for this year. No matter what, no matter the cost of a Russian life, putin wants to hold onto power till death.. or when he is overthrown. 😂
It's obvious to everyone but the BBC.
Avdijivka is a small town which had a pre war population of 30.000. It took Russia 8 years to take this town. At this rate Putin will disappear from elderly before the Russian forces get even close to Kramatorsk 😂
the most heavily fortified town in donbass is about to fall after another fortified town of soledar fell,so continue coping@@JDurand888
@@JDurand888 It seems that you do not understand, Russia does not to take the territory to win this war..
but yall said ukraine is winning?
You all said it'd only take 3 days
Mind Begs the Question:
- Nazi Media defended Hitlers Policies,Starvation,Death Camps,Ethnic Cleansing,Gas Chambers,etc
- If a Media defends Starvation,Death Camps,Ethnic Cleansing,White Phosphorus,etc
- Not akin to Nazi Media?
@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 no, that is the narrative from western media!
Who said it😂@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 that was wrong take for sure, but doesn't change the fact that Ukraine is losing big time
It’s a war of attrition. Change in territory is insignificant, especially for the Russian side. More important is loss ratios, and resupply rates. Especially in terms of manpower.
Hmmm... that's a rather optimistic take. Avdivka is falling currently, a super fortified city like Bakhmut! After that.. I don't know where Ukraine will retreat.
@@Habib_Osmanthey're advancing toward Poland while the Russian army is cowardly retreating backwards to Kiev.
@@YaraMits Did you take your medication?
If only KIEV honored the MINSK Accord , Ukraine wouldnt be at lost...
If only russia never started the war in donbass or invaded crimea.
If only their puppets in donbass honored the Minsk accords
@@sH-ed5yf
U got to be bloody ignorant , blind/deaf?
puppets?. KieV was killing its own minorities citizens, trying to FORCE ASSIMILATE them.
The Minsk accord- in order for the separatist to lower down arms is when KIEV acknowledge in its rada(parliment) that it Will.honor a referendum which will be arranged by the OSCE , Rusia, Germans, French..
KIeV NEVER did that..
"Without delays, but no later than 30 days from the date of signing of this document, a resolution has to be approved by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, indicating the territory which falls under the special regime in accordance with the law "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts," based in the line set up by the Minsk Memorandum as of 19 September 2014"
A possible error in this video is that they say that the 50+ billion EUR in aid from the EU is “military aid”, in fact is is economic aid to the Ukrainian government to supplement its non-defence budget.
My question is can this aid be considered military because the Ukrainian government now has space to redirect funds from civil spending to military spending?
its also worth noting that its an allocation for the next four or five years rather than a single upfront lump sum.
Read an article in Kyiv independence. It said Ukraine has put their entire GDP into war effort, and has turn into a war time economy. The aid that EU and US sent to Ukraine are basically used to cover the government expense.
Bear in mind the Ukrainian GDP is 183 billions in 2023 (lost around 100 billion before the war) Depends on tax rate, you are talking about 30% to 40% (if we go by Western Tax rate) of those 183 billions are taxed by the government, which mean around 60 billion of Ukrainian asset were put into Military
@@cosplayshop thank you for the elaboration. The loop of expenditure to taxation is a very good point.
Its not a stalemate, the Russians are on the advance.
Russia is a magical nation that is simultaneously always losing but also always a growing threat. Don't question it, just obey
it sounds like they are fighting a war they cant win hoping that russia will break from within and withdraw because militarily they are a real force
A lot of truth in that. Russia has many fracture points that are getting more and more stressed as the war goes on. "Breaking from within" as you say is one of those "points".
@@marviwilson1853 it's more likely that Ukraine breaks first from within, their government is losing approval rapidly
@@marviwilson1853Ukraine breaking first is more likely. People are tired from fighting, No more Ukrainians are willing to volenteer. Forcing public would just make it worse. Which is where we are heading.
@@_H_A_R_S_H_I_T_bro you guys talk out your asses, Russia are recruiting from Cuba and Nepal what does that say about them… Russia won’t be able to recover for over 10 years
@@BillySaville Show us a prove of a single Cuban or Nepalese in the Russian military.
But nice disinformation try, nafo bot.
Why is it only the west are calling it a stalemate?
Because the frontline has not moved in months. What other words could you use to describe the facts as they are. Might be a stalemate now but who knows what words we will use tomorrow.
Sounds better than "being steamrolled"
@marviwilson1853 It's clear where you get your news then. If you only listen to one side of the propaganda, you are not getting the facts. That applies to both sides btw. Just for context, Ukraine went on a summer offensive and took one small village, Robotyne. Also crossedthe river to krinke. I'd call that a stalemate considering the length of the front and the expectation was to retake crimea. At this point they were heavily armed with all the goodies the west supplied. Now they've gone through a lot of men, most of the equipment and they have very little ammo. They are slowly losing ground across numerous areas of the front. Krinke is all but lost, Avdiivka is falling as we speak. Russia isn't going to or trying to blitz Ukraine. They're slowly and methodically taking ground. Russia can fight a war of attrition, Ukraine cannot unfortunately. I'm not a Russia supporter, and I don't like Putin, but don't rely on western msm if you want to know the facts.
They will say everything short of Ukraine is losing 😂😂😂
but the facts do not support that. Ukraine has pushed Russian forces back and retaken vast swathes of previously occupied territory. The Russian Black Sea fleet has been put out of meaningful action really. Ukraine is able to export grain despite Russia's attempts to stop them. Ukraine are holding the current front line and have more options going forward than Russia. Russian dead or injured now stand at half a million. Putin's so called 2-3 month SMO is now a 2-3 year war. Where in these facts do you see a winning Russia?
@@marviwilson1853 😂
We have access to multiple information leads and these guys treat us like this is the only one.
I dont actually watch the videos.. it is just typical biased Pro Western crap ... I come for the comment.
Yes. They think we are stupid. Or we cannot type "UA-cam" and watch other channels
What exactly are you bots disputing?
@@georgeedwardes5318 yer mom
A bot does not reply I guess. What we are actually disputing is that BBC News, the Sun, Skynews, Foxnews, CNN etc.. They will only tell us what they want us to hear. Like for example Russians are fighting with shovels and they ran out of ammunition and rockets and Ukrainian counter offensive was great. When you can tell watching other channels that they are lying to you. Does this makes sense or you have other questions? @@georgeedwardes5318
Time for a ceasefire and peace deal
Now some people deserve an apology for being called "Russian bots, propagandists, and trolls" for trying to explain to people a year ago that this was how things would end up in Ukraine.
I do not think there are many explanations other than spamming.
It hasn't ended yet.
Reality hurts, but after the pain the Truth will set you free.
Russian bots and trolls spread vicious lies and disinformation. That is their JOB, for which they are well compensated. Russia does NOT own Ukraine. Ukraine MUST join NATO to protect itself from Russian brutal aggression.
@@airhabairhab not before it pisses you off
Why BBC missed bakhmut.. marinka.. 😂.talking about russian losses . not about ukraine wow ..free democratic world independent media 😂😂
Ukraine will learn to put the interest (lives) of its people first above any promise from non entities like Boris Johnson in the future
The sooner Russians learn to put the interests of their own people first above any promise of territorial expansion, the quicker they can stop dying in Ukraine.
❤❤ agree 110%
Remember when they were saying 'Ukraine is winning '. They switched to 'the conflict is stuck'. Same lies and misinformation
My understanding is that Boris Johnson was instrumental in scuppering the peace talks and pursaded Ukraine to fight with Western support. Now it feels like state media is preparing us for defeat, which would be a disaster and another nail in that coffin for Pax Americana embolding China in the south China sea. We may have some hairy times ahead.😢
One of the reasons the war isn't moving on the Russians side is they in no hurry whereas Ukraine is desperate to show it's western donors that their weapons and money is achieving results. As for Russian losses the Americans can't have any idea how many have been lost. It's stupid to say that Russia throws away troops. No army can afford to do that now. It's not like the first world war when million of troops were involved.
you can be drafted in Ukraine until age 60, they are running out of people to draft.
everything is not at all as they tell you, think for yourself how one side can win, whose fighters are recruited by force and caught on the street, and on the other side volunteers 40,000 people come every month, you are now on the receiving end of financial aid to Ukraine because they understand they will no longer help even money to Ukraine, in your media they say that the Russians have 10 times more shells and then they say that the Russians have run out of shells! How can you lie to your own people?
Yes
your analysis is correct!
The best way to watch BBC is with MUTE button fully pressed. You don't want to hear any audio.
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OVER THE TROUBLE
Stalemate is just a euphemism for Ukraine debacle. Zelenskyy is running out of cannon fodder. He fired his top general ( who paid at least lip service to common sense) and replaced him with his minion (Politico quotes Ukrainian soldiers calling him a butcher in an article "Zaluzhny is out, the ‘butcher’ is in") that wasted lives of close to 100 000 Ukrainian troops trying to hold Bakhmut when all escape routes were under Russian fire control and then launching wave after wave of suicidal counterattacks for months trying and failing to recapture the city. Even NYT noticed in desperation: "Bakhmut has become something of an obsession for Mr. Zelensky and his military leaders. " Western allies are running out of ammo. Zelenskyy offensive proved to be an epic unmitigated disaster. Russians rejected any freeze of the conflict. Putin spokesperson said quite bluntly that all Russian goals had to be met (denazification, demilitarization and a neutral status of Ukraine). At this point unconditional surrender is the only practical solution for Ukraine. Hitler's Germany also refused to admit defeat until Hitler killed himself, then Keitel signed unconditional surrender.
Shut up troll.No one cares of your lies.
I may have misunderstood your comment but are you trying to compare Ukraine to Nazi Germany?
@@zoot90 Roman Shukhevych (SS officer (hauptmann) who was directly implicated in a mass extermination of jews and poles) is a national hero of Zelenskyy Ukraine. Multiple streets are named after him. Zelenskyy is quite fine with that. Moreover he didn't even apologize for his standing ovation for this Nazi in Canadian parliament, because it would upset multiple Nazis in his army (yeah, Nazis that are covered with Nazi tattoos, wear Nazi patches and paint swastikas on their tanks). There is also a bronze bust of Roman Shukhevych at the Ukrainian Youth Unity Complex in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada . ... It was partly funded by Canadian taxpayers.
No, he is comparing Ukraine's defeat to German's defeat. Russians have always won wars based on attrition. They survive longer than their opponents.
@@zoot90Absolutely, it’s a state that cultivates and celebrates Nazi ideology on a legislative and cultural level. Have a look at every video regarding this topic on UA-cam before 2022 you will see what we mean. Statues have been erected, streets named after prominent nazis and Ukrainian collaborators. Ukraines president in 2010 went as far as bestowing the title “Hero Of Ukraine” to none other than Stefan Bandera a well known Nazi collaborator responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths Jews and Poles included yet we bat the eye and declare nazism does not exist in Ukraine I suggest you do your research and come to your own conclusion not everything regurgitated by the opposition is propaganda.
If someone had said in 1985 that in 2024 the west would be risking nuclear war for the right to place missiles 200 miles from Moscow we'd have thought they were mad. Back then we were still naive enough to believe that NATO was a defensive organisation.
Nato is defensive, just because they're trying to approach russia's territory doesn't mean they'll go into it.
There are no NATO nuclear weapons anywhere near the Russian border.
Not as mad as the person who claims Russia invaded Ukraine because of some imaginary missiles supposedly being placed in Ukraine. Or imaginary nazis supposedly about to invade Russia. Or genetically engineered mosquitoes. Or any number of kremlin lies designed to cover its disastrous war of military expansion.
@@nzredwolf4048 US troops went and go into many countries all over the world, even "inventing" war causes intentionally (lies!) like it was the case in Iraq...
@@nzredwolf4048 Would USA accept Russian or Chinese military bases in Mexico? - They would not.
Why should then US military bases be accepted in Ukraine (and a large number of other countries all over the world)?
Wester media needs to try harder
Ivan the bot needs more rubbels for the comments
Mind Begs the Question:
- If USA/West Media
- Censor criticism of Nazi Policies
- Starvation,Death Camps,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Not akin to Nazi Media?
Russian media = say what Putin thinks or fall out of a window
@@sebastiaanl9876he is right. West is on the knees and there is no plan while Russia is pushing forward in geopolitics and economy.
Germany is destroyed for good but censored media don't talk about it.
Call me Ivan or Boris if it is easier for you...just think about it for a while.
“Support for Ukraine would only increase the death toll and would not make Russia go back. Unless NATO wants to intervene” Looking at your other comments, it seems you’re pro-Russia? Do you want Ukraine to just sit back and let themselves become a Russian puppet and experience huge losses to their society and way of life?
Western Media are the best weapon that Putin has :-(
What happened ukranaian orcs?
No Western media 😅 can tell ukranian losses😂
I'm not talking about this current conflict but I would say that generally speaking the people I know in the north of England have views more aligned with Vladimir Putin than they do with the BBC that's for sure.
@@sebastianguerre6868 No Western media 😅 can tell ukranian losses😂
As Putin said in The Interview. They have no chance of beating Russia.
It depends on how much they support them. Russia is a second tier country. America is not.
What is the number of Ukrainian losses?
It changes every day.
those numbers are under censorship (ukraine does not reveal the numbers)
They can't talk about that
Don't go asking difficult questions like that, man! Just think what they tell you to think, eat your lab grown meat and do as you're told, in order to support the fight against authoritarianism from whoever they tell you to hate next.
🤣🤣🤣@@Ruylopez778
It's not stuck, Russia has been taking ground everyday, it's stuck for Ukraine if you want to put it that way.
@@Arnold_Slater1223 They are not barley moving, the Russians have entered Avdiivka which is a heavily fortified city and for the past few days they've been capturing a lot of streets. Search up deep state map if you want to check their progress
If you want an assessment with experience, look up Col Douglas Mcgregor, The New Atlas with Brian Berletic, Scott Ritter former UN inspector and Marine, Larry C. Johnson former C.I.A.
imagine citing Scott Ritter as an reliable source xd
I agree with u on Col Mcgregor but Scott Rider is a registered sex offender look into it. I’ll pass on him
@fredericlaine1536 If they had listened to Ritter, the US wouldn't have gone into Iraq and thousands of our men and women wouldn't have died along with millions of innocent Iraqis AND creating a mess in the middle east that spilled over into Syria.
Both of those men have been saying ‘Ukraine is two weeks from destruction’ for about a year and a half now
It says a lot about how our government controlled corporate media is completely broken.
The net is closing in on the media. We don't beleve anything you tell us anymore. Bbc 😂
What about Ukraine losses....😮i didnt hear that
You won't hear about Russian losses so much on RT.
BBC covering up the jab scandal, they'll pretend they didnt know when it finally comes out.
Nato pushed Ukraine into a severe war with its neighbor
and now they are watching the game
But ultimately it was beglinzky's decision!! So he is the sole cause for all this!
yes right, NATO pushed us. Not that Russia has been trying to plant a puppet president and establish basically a totalitarian regime with Yanukovich. Not that Russia has demonized ANY opposition to their puppet, screaming 'fascist' at anything Ukrainian or not pro-Russian. Not that Russia is all but trying to return to the 'glory days of USSR' which is not what the majority of Ukrainians want. Not that Russia and its closest ally Belarus are totalitarian regimes that kidnap torture jail or kill any opposition that doesn't leave the country. Nono, it's all NATO.
For fucks sake where do you geniuses come from
Is stuck really the right word?
Couldn't you best describe it as being under supplied?
An army on the offensive without air superiority isn't really an offensive its more like lets give it a go and see what happens.
Yeah under supplied by troops. They are running out. Hence drafting up to sixty year olds..
They are running out of fresh troops. Plain and simple.
Problem is Zelenskyy said that he wants 1991 border, even with all of the aid they can get they literally DON’T HAVE that many people, the only way it’s possible is to conscript women and children and the elderly.
The average age in the Ukrainian military is like what 47 ?
What they need supply for? Against prisoners with shovel from country that failed apart two years ago? To do what? Kill own civilians that don't agree with coup governments?
Reality is that Russia destroyed everything 54 countries+USA ever sent and you can check how much is that in everything...
Now it is geopolitical game where Western hegemony is losing heavily.
Understatement. USA insists on Air support for ANY mission and EVERY battlefield plan depends on it if their troops are going in. The West did not even supply AntiAircraft weapons to cover the attack. A hand fully of modern Tanks was a shame to the free world.
Ukraine started this conflict in 2014 by violating The Minsk Agreements (Peace Deal/Ceasefire) - sadly, they brought this on themselves.
also why keep interviewing kings college 'experts?' they havent gotten anything right since the onset of the conflict...
Russia outnumber Ukraine in artillery by 5-1. Only 20% of Ukraines artillery are modern western types and the rest are old soviet types, and they are short of ammo. With its missile forces and aircraft its a 10-1 firepower advantage for Russia. So if you think Russia has lost more men and equipment than Ukraine, you are insane.
You know absolutely nothing. I am of Russian ancestry, I have family in Russia (and Ukraine). My relatives in Russia have suffered horrific losses of sons and so has everyone they know. There are tens of thousands of mothers quietly "protesting" across Russia almost every day because it takes MONTHS for them to get any word of when / how their boys died. Russia is drastically hiding the number of dead from the public, but what they can't hide are the sheer number of mothers and wives who have missing sons and husbands demanding daily for news on their loved ones.
Ukraine's losses are also mind-boggling and not sustainable simply because their population is so much smaller. But I have cousins in Russia who were conscripted and forced to fight (many are now wounded and out of the war). They've told me that it was not uncommon for their forces to lose 3 to 4 men for every Ukrainian soldier they killed. Many of the Ukrainians are better trained than the Russian conscripts and prisoners and have they higher motivation to fight (they are fighting for their home, Russians are being forced to fight for something many of then don't even believe in and they just want out of the fighting so they don't fight hard like Ukrainians do).
That said, Russia will still win the numbers game even if Ukraine is killing 2 or 3 or 4 Russians for every 1 Ukrainian loss. Russia just has way more people and way more industry to keep making munitions. There is no conventional victory for Ukraine possible - the only thing they can realistically hope for is the same thing that happened to the Americans in Vietnam.. the people got tired of the war and forced their government to bring their soldiers home. Ukraine is hoping to exhaust Russia and force them to quit just like the Americans were forced to quit Vietnam.
Russia does lose more man and more equipment. The problem is that they haw soon much resources in human force and in equipment that it's just too much to bare. The question is for how long...
@@Dima-dc5mf then you must be insane if you think that.
@@Dima-dc5mf The thought that Russia is losing more men and equipment is laughable.
Why you don’t talk about stop the war.😢😢😢
In wars of attrition, very little territory is exchanged until one sides economy collapses, whereafter massive territorial gains occur by the opposing side.
Nobody wants peace?
what about Ukrainian losses?
Lol, they lost so much that they have to resort to recruiting someone age 60,.😅
What about them?
Russia says that 5 million Ukrainian soldiers have been killed during the war. Compared to just 5000 Russian losses. These are the official figures Russia is giving.
@@garryjohnson6794 😂
show also the Ukraine casualty numbers@@marviwilson1853
you are here coping when russia is almost taking avdiivka,i wonder what stuck means to you
Made in Hollywood 😂😂😂
Made in a BOT farm in Moscow or St Petersburg.
@@paultyson4389Yes Ukraine is winning and the counteroffensive is gaining momentum.
I don't think this guy understands how big Ukraine really is
He thinks Ukraine us tiny like Britain.
Ukraine is the MOST MINED country in the WORLD. These mines take a great deal of time, manpower, and caution to be de-mined.
Ukraine has no troop's.
Stop lying. It has changed greatly.
The MOD usually does 'lessons learnt' but doesn't change. 😂😂😂😁
Same with the US DoD.
Belarus is Russia's closest ally. UK trained belarusian soldiers. In the UK.
Look it up.
Soiya Soiya
Avdivka and several other towns have fallen to the Russians and these guys think we are foolish to believe that the war is stuck
Just stop the funding, stop the war already
It is a lot more complicated than that.
Thanks Vladimir.
@@marviwilson1853is it though? Serious talks need to be made about peace terms, and Zelenskyy isn’t having any of it
Why would Ukraine want to talk peace with Russia. They are at war with them and will fight to take back what is rightfully theirs. Did the allies seek peace talks with Hitler in 1942?@@KyleClippers
@@marviwilson1853 Its an unwinnable war unless NATO gets involved, and we all know we don't want that. Stop the killing and end the war
One thing most analysts forget. Millions have left ukraine already as refugees plus millions of internally displaced citizens of Ukraine.
Ukraine population already depleted. Where is the manpower to achieve victory. No airforce no navy no own production
It's even worse. There is no manpower to rebuild the country after the war.
Yes, Russian losses are very heavy! But what about Ukrainian losses? Are they less heavy or just expense losses?
All along the frontline.
if Ukraine lost as many men as Russia then Ukraine would have lost the war already.
Ukraine has lost more people than Russia...they are just struggling and would have surrendered long ago, if not their president that is desperate to please you and get more money...
Somehow? Russian fire near to 10x more than ukraine, and somehow ukraine kill more? Wake up, war it is not how we like it is how it is. Delusional west. @@underarmbowlingincidentof1981
Russia has lost more men since 2022 but Russua can lose men. Ukraine can't
These videos with Ros are very well put together
Yes. History can repeat itself. Remember how many wars Russia has lost - none. Russia has always won. Russia has warned many times that NATO should not expand to the east. A contract was signed. But NATO violated this agreement. So we got what we got.
Russia has no interest going beyond Donbas,Donetsk and the Crimea,in other words,it's rightful territories.
lol, Russia is breaking though everywhere !
You laughed at the dragon teeth and defensive lines before the failed offensive
I suspect this ends in a peace deal with Ukraine acknowledging Crimea and maybe some of the eastern provinces as Russian, in exchange for cessation of hostilities and withdrawal from others.
@@N1315Why all of Europe. It's a regional war. Always has been. With a long history.
btw....they do not have the capability anymore to take on NATO. Calm down folks.
@@N1315 Given the international response, it'll probably be the last time Russia tries something like this. There is a fine line protecting NATO countries from Russia at the very least.
@@N1315 what are you going to do?😂 Biden's 1 day ukranian so called counteroffensive 😅
Nope this ends when Putin is in charge of Ukraine and it become part of the ever expanding Russian borders with the west
Russia vs 32western pambers tik tok army😂
I will have you know that NATO now represents all gay/transgender/female/coloured and gender neutral people.. and once they get their make up fixed will be ready to fight anyone
Er, BBC, I have always defended you as a reputable news channel, now you post a nearly 5 minute video about the stalemate yet you fail to mention the lack of provision of advanced fighter planes even once?
That’s either shoddy journalism or omission by design.
Why are we funding this, imagine the bbc asked this of our politicians like they should be.
Boris Johnson now"....did I did this? Ups"😂😁😂😁
Land is still being taken theres no pause at Rus side. What report is this.
Land is being taken on both sides. As time goes by sometimes Russia takes more, sometimes Ukraine takes more. What we can say is that the so called mighty Russia in a two year campaign has only managed to occupy a piece of Ukrainian territory right next to its own borders. Not much to shout about really is it? I know it, you know it that Russia is not the fighting power we thought it was pre invasion.
its a small operation@@marviwilson1853
@@marviwilson1853😂😂😂 ты жалок интернет воин 😂
Touched a nerve there I think!@@user-iq2mc1zm6z
But you have be3n telling me for years that Russia is about to fall? Did you lie to me? 😂
Russia's army seems to be much more competent when it's in a defensive posture compared to an offensive one
You do not take into account the fact that the Ukrainian army has been building defensive structures on the line of contact with Donbass since 2014
Of course the BBC happens to gloss over the fact that Avdiivka is one street away from being semi-encircled
Syrsky and Zaluzhny rotted 500 thousand Ukrainian military in the summer of 2023. Zelensky gave the order to recruit another 500 thousand cannon fodder... so they take everyone, disabled people, drug addicts, old people. Lots of videos of how they are caught on the streets... and then for meat in the trenches to the front line. Bakhmut, Soledar, now Avdeevka.... Speed is not important to the Russians. The Russians in 2013 did not have Crimea and 4 new regions, but now they do.
Its not stuck when you are losing 1000 men a day and have zero ammunition and completely dependent on foreign aid which is uncertain. Those variables are not on the map but are important in an attritional war, and they are in action and can become very telling very quickly
Negotiations need to happen. to many younge men and women have died. On both sides the losses are in the hundred thousands! Watch the tucker interview, and see the history of pressure put against russia.
Barely moved ? Avdiivka - the most fortified place in Ukr land is falling and Rus is moving forward in numerous other directions too. Ukr defenses are CRUMBLING !!
Essentially the front line is well dug in and supported by men and artillery. It has been a part of military doctrine from the year dot. Castles depended on the strategy. The Maginot and Gustav lines were similar ideas. So why do castles fail? they get cut off from supplies and besieged, or the walls get compromised by undermining or overtopping. How were the Maginot and similar lines defeated? You start by going around them on the flanks where they are weak or non-existent. In Ukraine that means Crimea, and possibly a sea landing from the Azov. To take Crimea, that bridge has to go.
problem is there is simply no way to amass a sufficient expeditionary force to launch such attacks without having your forces bombed to smithereens before you even set off... this is an incredibly transparent battlefield that has punished both sides heavily anytime they amass troops for large scale assaults and effective air defense in depth on both sides renders superiority through air cover for such an attack equally elusive..
Large-scale amphibious operations are notoriously difficult and such operations that have been successful employed massive naval forces and firepower, e.g., Normandy, Okinawa, Inchon. How exactly could Ukraine launch a successful sea-borne invasion of Crimea "from the Azov" when the Ukrainian navy currently consists of a few river-boats? Also, as already pointed out by a previous commentator any build-up of forces for such an operation would be seen by Russian Intelligence. At the start of the war Russian satellite coverage of Ukraine was severely limited but since then Russia has launched dozens of military satellites and these satellites now watch Ukraine 24/7.
@@johntowers1213 There are, and that is what Ukraine lack at the moment. It's Air Power.
You need to dominate the sky to stop your enemy from getting ISTAR done, you push deep inside enemy line with your air power and you can interdict both ISTAR asset and attacking asset (eg Artillery Piece). This is how NATO fight to blind their opponent, by overwhelm the enemy using NATO air power.
Ukraine on the other hand, is not doing that, neither Ukraine nor Russia have the upperhand on air domination, that's why both side can fly just about anything above their enemy, because no one is able to close the sky to the other. What Ukraine need is a combine of A2/AD mission between Anti-Air Asset (SAM) and Air Domination asset (Fighter) if they can do that, then they can at least put some blind spot over Russian ISTAR network and amass their force, if not outright bline the Russian. That is what the F-16 comes in, if they are giving them in enough number (50-70) then it will be a different battlefield in 2024, however, if they are just giving them token number (like < 20) then it would not do much, they can try and generate blind spot on the line but this most likely would not work. Bear in mind US alone have 800 F-16 stored since they are moving to F-35...
Russia already created a land bridge to Crimea. The Kerch bridge is just gravy. Besides, Russia had been supplying Crimea before the Kerch was built, so taking it out won’t help you.
@@ericp1139 Would have agreed before this war. With Russia need to pull Navy ship from Sevastopol? Where else can you supply Crimea? You think that Landbridge, which are going to divert supply to Crimea to a land route, can hold it even without interdiction (they are under ATACAMS range by the way)
Russia was forced to abandon Kherson because they can't supply both Crimea and Kherson when the Ukrainian bomb the bridge back in September 2022. And that is before Russian navy keep getting their ship sunk and they pull the ship back to Russian mainland port, you think that road, most of them aren't paved, can replace that bridge??
Many of us grew-up with the BBC - the BBC's radio and TV broadcasts were probably respected (and envied) the world over. It's sad what the BBC has now become. How long will people pay a licence fee just to hear government propaganda?
Sad to say but they simply don't have the manpower. We need to start thinking of talks
This was same propganda when Bakhmut happened....😂😂😂
Nope....its not stuck. Ukraine and NATO has already lost. They just dont admit it 😂😂
I wouldn't believe ANY hypothesis that is made by the truth less BBC
You don't understand what's going on and it shows
Whats going on ?
@@Robertpurdy do your own research, that's the problem people just want to listen to what someone else says and not do any research or question anything.
I do that but Russia's information is always easily debunked and they typically lie about things such as their boats sinking and generals killed, what is the truth ?@@URACCCP
Stuck??? With one side advancing and in few steps to capture another city??
Why don't they just come out and state the obvious fact that Ukraine is fucked .
💰💰💰! And not to forget the beggar of begraine gains a lot from this war as well!
If this one is stuck, then what word will you use on US war in Syria, Iraq and Africa?
These so-called ‘analysts’…. Do they actually visit Ukraine, visit the frontlines, speak Russian, interview commanders ? 😂
How about considering peace talks and ceasefire ?
How about leaving Ukraine and the lands you stole ? Putins words are worthless, he will start another war in a few years time. Never trust dictators.
Impossible to push back an invading force without air power
Oh, is this why the BBC rarely bothers to cover it anymore, despite the constant losses on both sides? I guess it's not exciting anymore?
😂😂😂BBC lying about avdiivka .
Western propaganda is out of control
What are they lying sbout
NATO likes to believe quality will trump quantity. Only up to a point. China and Russia also have a culture that accepts high casualties. That wasn't given enough weight in our equation predicting this war.
Except all the weapons used in this war, Russian versions are equivalent or better. So NATO can’t even lean on quality.
Proof?@@ericp1139
@@ericp1139it’s old nato tech. Russia could be using their older tech though so I have no idea. What i do know though, Russia cannot compete with nato air forces. Not a chance
What option do you have but to fulfill America's interest to consume Russia's power. That is what NATO designed for
@@mrsentencename7334 Russian air defense will negate NATO Air Force. US air can’t even beat Houthis.
Us are a little worried what happened to some of their newer weapons systems. ... they disappeared.
Overall, isn't that a good thing?
It's not like it's stalemate doesn't make Russia much weaker in the long term...
Stalemate is just what media calls a Russian victory.
It is not a stalemate when one side is losing. And not a good thing when one side is getting battle hardern.
It's very easy to explain. Ukraine got dependent on western weapons and they're not getting enough. Very sad if you ask me.
Like being addicted to a new drug only one person can supply. They became junkies for US aid.
Well, it was beglinzky's and begraine's decision to fight in the end. So why blame the rest??