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You don't need to port it, just minor optimizations. Stadia streams runs on standard x86 architecture. It would have worked out of the box. They just didn't bother releasing it at all.
We all knew Yahtzee could predict the future but this video is the gift that keeps giving. 3:02 "Russia annexing the Ukraine" - Feb 24, 2022 Russia invades Ukraine 4:48 "[Stadia] might not exist in 2 years" - Sept 29, 2022 Google announces that it is shutting down Stadia
@@probablynotbatman4613 it's inevitable that anything yahtzee says doesnt age well. If he ever says "sure would be a shame if the world ends." I'd start counting down the days until the inevitable.
it's a plus in androids though, since you can use any app you want from the internet without having to jailbreak your phone. I'm not talking about piracy, I'm talking about apps like youtube vanced that is the youtube app without the ads.
As a loyal Google Play Music subscriber, I felt that. They are killing a service that I've used for over 6 years and trying to move everyone to UA-cam Music, a far worse experience and service, because "UA-cam" was a better brand name. It actually pisses me off because I'd rather they leave me alone even if they never update the app again rather than screwing me and making me listen to some shitty cover version of my library from UA-cam. I'm going to move to Spotify or Apple Music, but Google needs to work on their long term support for their services. They seem to love to quickly drop a product or service if it's not getting enough attention or if they get bored with it. I still haven't forgiven them for killing Inbox.
What just happened? I've witnessed the rest of the world rip Stadia apart and Yahtzee gave legit criticism, and only seemed disappointed. 2020 really is a prelude to armageddon.
Because for some reason he thought this is a good idea even though the rest of the sane world already declared otherwise. These companies don't give a rat ass about preservation so the moment the server shuts down it's game over. Which is exactly why real gamers want physical copies that much. To preserve gaming from the live service hydra known as AAA game companies
@@Dribbleondo A preference for physical media is gatekeeping, is it? Better get me one of those Buckingham Palace guard uniforms if that's the case. When the apocalypse comes (i.e., when the internet goes down for more than six hours), I'd like to still have some games to play while I wait for Lord Humongous to raid at dawn. Good thing the Gamecube is basically indestructible and had some good titles, eh?
@@joevenespineli6389 The difference between Steam and Google is as Yahtzee said himself: "Google don't give a shit". If the apocalypse comes down and all internet is gone Steam promises that it will allow you to still play games without it. Google don't care and won't care for such thing
This the issue with digital software, we dont own any of it. I've lost an entire iTunes library before. Okay it was 13 years ago and iTunes and I was a kid but it still happened. Scarred me ever since.
"Cool, we made the game streaming platform, what do we put on it?" "How about turn-based RPGs and maybe... Civilization? Emphasize the play-anywhere nature of it and make the most of the latency." "PUT RHYTHM GAMES, SHOOTERS AND SHOVELWARE ON IT? YOU GOT IT BRO"
@@SnrubSource it needs targeted games that make sense for the platform. At the moment the bad press and the library of games that benefit from low latency (at full price!) just screams 'expensive disappointment'. Harmonix can make all the rhythm games they want but the Stadia is just not the right tech solution for a tight, reflex based game. They should be selling me the idea that I can play some RPG, leave my house and swap the game to my phone and resuming play on the bus. Play to the strengths of this tech, because they're there.
@@SnrubSource yep exactly. This is exactly the sort of stuff the Stadia needs to turn it around. Stuff like The Sims, Satisfactory, etc. Ok, it's not flashy and cool, but it solves the mobile gaming problem and gives people a reason to use tablets and iPads whilst out and about.
So any country with good internet coverage but have import restriction to any PC parts or all console other than Stadia. Blimey that's incredibly specific
I can afford consoles and I have my PS4 gathering dust. I also recently got rid of my previous PC and have a brand new one with just the CPU's GPU in a mini-ITX box. Stadia is my way of playing games now and I don't plan to ever look back to maintaining a noisy console, having cables, deciding which game to delete to make room for Doom Eternal, fearing that I'll lose all my games when next-gen comes out, waiting for downloads, waiting for updates, having a noisy PC, and all that cr*p. A better description would be: Stadia is suitable for people that don't want to waste time and effort in overhead. Now, if only Diablo 4 comes to Stadia, I won't have to get a PS5.
@@nocturnal101ravenous6 I'm r/Stadia quite frequently and I haven't seen anyone having issues with the service itself. Most problems are either because someone uses a very old PC that can't decode fast enough, or use wifi instead of cable, or have some other software issue. Feel free to open a thread in r/Stadia to get the problem resolved. p.s.1. Have you tried it yourself? p.s.2. It's going to be a looooong way (probably never) until something replaces PC gaming. Non-casual PC gaming is a category by itself, that neither Stadia nor Consoles can replace.
Yahtzee - "Imagine your entertainment options if your internet went down" Me - severe nam style flashbacks of watching the Lord of the Rings extended edition box-set for nearly a month and breaking out an old VCR player to watch Die Hard for a change of pace because something chewed the wire underground and they had trouble finding exactly where
‘Me flashing back to the summer in high school when our internet would only work for 10 minutes of any given hour and I frantically built up a mini e-book library any time finding/downloading books was possible.‘
I was so excited to hear the "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, teeheehee!" jingle, I literally said "Say the line!" as your intro music was wrapping up and started bobbing my head in preparation. Whatever the entertainment equivalent of blueballs is, you gave it to me.
He isn't blueballing. He legit thinks it's good even though any sane person knows that Google is pulling a "games are service" bullshit that EA did. He ain't no real gamer so he don't understand how damaging this will be if it takes off
@@nonamepasserbya6658 He likely knows but didn't feel ripped off yet because he got it for free. Even so it isn't exactly his job to repeat what clearly everyone here knows already.
@@nomisloper1091 You just have to stare longer to build up polka-dot immunity. Your eyes will stop feeling funny after that. They won't feel much of anything, really.
“A limited amount of AAA Titles that everyone stopped talking about around the same time everyone stopped talking about Russia annexing Ukraine” *_OOF_*
Ah, but that's the whole point - you enter your card info, and then you forget to unsubscribe for couple months, while they get money. That's how all subscription services with free trial work.
@@SuccubiPie It works on the vast majority of things. The only two things they'll typically duplication check for is your credit card information and IP address
So, you have a subscription based streaming service, but for a number of titles, you have to shill out extra. And apparently as much as I would have to pay for the game anywhere else without the subscription? Is this about right? Yea, I can see why that busines model would get a somewhat lukewarm reception... Also: hey Google, stopp giving Netflix ideas!
@@Bird_Dog00 Don't forget if shit goes down and the apocalypse knock on our doors, Steam promise you can still play their games without Steam. Google don't care about silly things like preserving games
@@rhubarbjin I played Deus Ex: Human Revolution on OnLive the first time I tried it. I did not care for the input lag but it was workable. Unjustified though since my computer could handle it but, I got a code from someone.
Well you can't really apply that here because the concept is novel. Sure companies have tried always-online too often by now but streaming whole games from an entirely off-site library? Just hasn't been done until Google gave it a try. And the credits are right, just about the only people who could pull it off are in Google.
@@jackthompson7125 You know what, I honestly hadn't even thought about that. I don't know how Sony gets it to work better than Google, but I suppose it helps that people who use it have already owned a PS of some variety. That and they're not asking you to buy games on top of all the subscription costs you're already paying.
2:25 I somehow feel called out. I tried Steam's streaming from my desktop to my laptop, both over the wire on the same network - and even that i found lacking. I guess bright future of streamed games is just not for me...
I recommend geforce now, honestly. Currently using it and for 5 bucks a month it's actually pretty damn good honestly. You can also try a free version of it but it gives you an hour per session to play
honestly i would be a lot cooler with it, if they simple let me download and store the games. that way i could still use the streaming for on the go and play on weaker devices, while also knowing that i have a nice copy of the game stored on one of my harddrives. you know just in case the service dies. at least i would still have the game and after a quick crack i could even play it without stadia. as of right now i just feels like throwing 60 bucks into the void. or,.. or just turn it into netflix for games. pay a small fee per month and get excess to the whole cataloge.
I think that there was a service like that back when Netflix still just threw DVDs at you in exchange for money. I think it was GameFly? Either way, even Netflix doesn't have all the things like it used to due to the festering disease that is exclusivity, which means that you may need to pay for multiple devices just to get what you want, and there's a risk of things moving even after that. Steam and Epic Games are in a fight like that right now, and at least you don't pay just to have the service on top of paying for the games like Stadia and any competitor following in its footsteps.
@Dahn GFN is a service where you essentially rent out a virtual PC to stream your games. Stadia is its own platform just like Xbox, PS, Swtich, and whatever other console comes to mind. My 3 kids and I daily play on our Stadia accounts without any issues. We have done so since launch in November, so not really sure why you would call it "shite". Also, the "subscription" is primarily to give you the ability to play a game @ 4k60fps & 5.1 surround sound as long as the Developer ports the game at max settings. You also get free monthly games. Stadia first promised 1 free game per month, but has been delivering 2+ games since launch. June we received 6 games, and July we got 4 games. If you opt for the free version of Stadia, you get 1080 & stereo sound. There is also no fee to play multi player games as you would expect to pay for Xbox, PS & Nintendo. A lot of people confuse the "subscription" part to mean Netflix, but it is actually more like Amazon Prime. You have Prime (Pro) titles that you can play, and you have non-Prime (Non-Pro) games that you can buy. There are also tons of sales that rotate monthly with Pro subs getting better sales then non-Pro members. I just wanted to shine some light since i am a Stadia user.
I remember when building my current rig a coworker speaking up about Stadia. Saying something along the lines of "you wont need computers like that any more". Explaining there wasn't supposed to be any lag or issues. I wonder what he's doing now. Because I've been busy installing my massive library of Steam games and *acquiring* a massive and entirely legal dragon's hoard of classic console games for emulation. I hope he's out there somewhere with a Stadia subscription. Satisfied with himself for eagerly embracing the future.
Well not just did Yahtzee predict Russia annexing Ukraine, he also predicted Stadia eventually closing down (one is more obvious than the other, you may choose which one is which).
0:57 Yes, the aesthetic design of the space IS my primary concern when buying entertainment hardware. Just like when I swapped out my lottery win Rolls Royce for a mini cooper because the colour clashed with my garage.
“To prop up someone else’s IP on a delivery system you have no stake in that might not exist in two years” So when are we gonna just admit that Yahtzee’s a prophet?
I talked about Stadia with my friend and he noted how Netflix regularly removes some stuff from their site. So he said if you paid for a game you like but it gets the axe then sucks to be you. I guess that’s why people don’t seem into it.
I can't believe your videos still make me laugh 10+ years down the line ! "If this were Nintendo the senior staff would be looking to have any fingers left to hack off in shame" got me good
I hope every attempt at turning gaming into a "digital only streaming service in the cloud" thing where you don't have the machine or the games at home, crashes and burns. I hope this concept never catches on. I hate the idea of now having the things and depending on the internet, a service, and the good will of a company that can delete stuff any day. (remember what happened to PT?). it would be a nightmare for preservation too. so, let's keep the model where we actually own the devices and the games.
This is the opposite direction from where I'd like to see gaming go. I understand the benefits of no installs or patches, but every other facet of the system seems subpar. The fidelity is woeful (and I DO care about that sort of thing), but the input lag is the real killer for me. I wouldn't be able to play anything but sightseeing games given my internet connection. I'm looking forward to more powerful, more PC-like consoles in the upcoming generation. For the first time, we aught to see general parity with PC's (at least at launch), and as someone who's never owned a gaming computer, I'm jazzed. ;)
@@ivanrzhanoy9389 I just meant that you don't have to spend $1200+ to get a good experience is all. (You can build a PC out of used parts for the cost of a PS4 Pro but there will be lots of compromises)
Stadia is just silly. Games cost more, look worse (even before compression), you have to pay extra for good audio and 4k, if the service shuts down you lose literally everything. And Xcloud is coming out soon bundled with both game passes and xbox live gold. Stadia has no place.
Allot of it depends on the ISP and that they provide a fast and stable connection and are relatively close to a Google data center. Luckily they provide a free month to test it out but i feel for the founders that did not have that ability to test it out first.
@@Kim-Ryden Honestly, the streaming part of Stadia is actually fantastic, it's just, the everything else part of Stadia. That's why i'm still excited for Xcloud and GeForce Now, from what i've seen those fix the problems while keeping the positive
In a world where corporations were honest and technology was 100% reliable something like this could conceivably work. Unfortunately the real world is the exact opposite and so something like this will probably never work
Gylt finally got a Steam release, so if you were interested in checking it out you can grab it there. Might want to wait for a sale though, $20 is a bit much for such a short game. It was fun and if you read all the diaries scattered throughout the whole story will make a lot more sense. A bit of Dark Souls style world building where the information is there, it's just up to you whether you want to read it or not.
There is a Tolkien quote "Languages need stories to survive". He felt Esperanto was doomed. Perfectly designed Esperanto had no mythos. Latin is a very complex dead language but with incredible history. What do you know more of? This is how I feel about stadia.
@@SupaDanteX It's literally still a thing. And they just created a first party studio. And they got the original God of War developer for it. And they added a ton more games.
Ironically the way people though Stadia would work initially before Google revealed the details would have been a far better approach then what it ultimately is. If Stadia basically was the game equivalent of Netflix where a single monthly fee gave you full access to 100:s of dollars worth of games (and assuming there was a good enough lineup) people would have been all over the platform.
Because it's genuinely not a bad platform. It has its problems, but if you meet the minimum requirements and your internet isn't terrible it works perfectly. Also, he was wrong. You don't need the subscription to play games you buy.
@@StadiaTime sure the playing experience might be good if you have good enough internet but the lack of games and the weird business model is a big turn off
I have to say, I think it's pretty galling that they make you pay for the service and then have to pay for the games on top of that. There is a reason Netflix doesn't make you pay for each movie, and youtube doesn't make you pay for the service. It's one or the other people... and yes you can still buy access to movies and tv shows on youtube.
They don't make you pay for Pro on top of the games. You can play the games you individually paid for without any subscription. This is just a big misconception that Yahtzee wouldn't know since he didn't buy any games on there.
I love how almost every Stadia review vid I've seen alludes to it not being around too long. Lo and behold, not even a full year after this video was posted and... *crickets*... 😂.
"You ever take a look around and think what your entertainment options are if your internet went down and your hard drives wiped?" Yes Yahtzee, I do, which is why I still keep my PS3 around, and failing that I still have an NES emulator in the shape of a smaller GameBoy Color
The trouble with Stadia is similar to what killed that godawful “Quibi” service or whatever. People don’t want to pay an overpriced monthly subscription for something that already exists in a perfectly acceptable state for a relatively low one-time purchase.
you dont need a subscription, and there is also people who don't want to spend 1000's for a pc to set up themselves or a console for 800 where you have to pay just to play online, i spent 100 on stadia and 40 on games with the free pro discounts and I'm able to play next gen games for $140 vs $900+, stadia is perfect for the casual gamer who has more important things to spend their money on
5:31 Game streaming has been done before/right now: Nvidia GeForce Now Sony Playstation Now Shadow Jump Playkey Parsec (also has local) Does not catch on because why would I run 720p30 over my internet when I can have 4k60 locally?
Those are all worse in most aspects, except the game library (except GeForce Now. "Oh boy, I'm gonna go play continue playing this game tomorrow? Wait, where'd it go?"), and Stadia is not made for hardcore gamers who own PCs
@@SnrubSource Oh that's rich, criticizing GeForce Now for removing access to content while simultaneously defending Google "I wonder what product is getting the axe today" Stadia. All game streaming is flawed but Microsoft is the closest to getting it right by letting you choose when you want to stream and at no extra cost. Stadia is just as irrelevant as the rest of the services listed above. The biggest chance for gaming product success is a huge splash on day 1. Stadia barely managed a drip. The writing is on the wall, unless there are big changes in Stadia's future it's going to sit on a sliver of marketshare until Google decides it's not worth the expense of maintaining.
Stadia. For those of you that really don’t want to own anything and always want to owe corporations everything. Those of you that love the feeling of risk that at any time your “possessions” could be taken away at any time because it was decided that it was no longer supported or changed to another service.
In addition to GYLT, another indie Stadia exclusive worth checking out is Lost Words: Beyond the Page. Written by Rhianna Pratchett, it is a unique, simple narrative puzzle/platform game for most ages. I think it's absolutely fantastic and deserves its awards. The red dress on the girl is optional in that game, by the way.
Just wanna say I've realized I've been watching zero punctuation since I was introduced to it on XPlay and then I realized how old long that really is. So, thanks for all of the reviews until now and thanks for all the reviews yet to come.
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There's no video. Just a transcript and a comments section.
The subscription isn't mandatory btw. You can just pay for the games and play them.
You screwed up on the subscription part. Its not required. Stadia is free.
Just get GeForce Now, or something else that gives you access to your PC libraries.
@@axeburgur9058 dry clearers
Bethesda didn't bother porting Skyrim to it - that should tell you something.
Oh shit it’s that bad
I'm not entirely sure that's a bad thing at this point... TES6 is kind of overdue...
This comment made me say "oof" out loud, unironically.
You don't need to port it, just minor optimizations. Stadia streams runs on standard x86 architecture. It would have worked out of the box. They just didn't bother releasing it at all.
I never understood the meme of Skyrim being ported everywhere being a real negative. It's not like they weren't making other games in the meantime.
We all knew Yahtzee could predict the future but this video is the gift that keeps giving.
3:02 "Russia annexing the Ukraine" - Feb 24, 2022 Russia invades Ukraine
4:48 "[Stadia] might not exist in 2 years" - Sept 29, 2022 Google announces that it is shutting down Stadia
Oh my god the "Russia annexing the Ukraine" part has come back with a vengeance
Yeah, that bit really didn't age well.
@@probablynotbatman4613 it's inevitable that anything yahtzee says doesnt age well. If he ever says "sure would be a shame if the world ends." I'd start counting down the days until the inevitable.
@@spiderbiter6162 then I wish he'd hurry up and say it already
lol this just came up on auto play for me I had to click back to the tab to see when it came out
stadia didn't
"Google doesn't care" is really the main issue with most of their products😑
it's a plus in androids though, since you can use any app you want from the internet without having to jailbreak your phone. I'm not talking about piracy, I'm talking about apps like youtube vanced that is the youtube app without the ads.
tomerca10 that also makes them way more susceptible to viruses and malware but if you know what you’re doing with it, then it’s a definite advantage
@@ethanb6576 if you know what you are getting then it's no different than downloading any desktop program
As a loyal Google Play Music subscriber, I felt that. They are killing a service that I've used for over 6 years and trying to move everyone to UA-cam Music, a far worse experience and service, because "UA-cam" was a better brand name. It actually pisses me off because I'd rather they leave me alone even if they never update the app again rather than screwing me and making me listen to some shitty cover version of my library from UA-cam.
I'm going to move to Spotify or Apple Music, but Google needs to work on their long term support for their services. They seem to love to quickly drop a product or service if it's not getting enough attention or if they get bored with it. I still haven't forgiven them for killing Inbox.
+ take it or leave it, actually you have to take it... never mind.
Just imagine if he had reviewed this back when he lived in Australia lmfao
Ahh, yes, 250ms lag, my good buddy.
@@spork8655 250ms? Don't you mean 250,000ms?
So just a ʍǝᴉʌǝɹ?
Wait, where does he live now?
@@FunZies. California
What just happened? I've witnessed the rest of the world rip Stadia apart and Yahtzee gave legit criticism, and only seemed disappointed.
2020 really is a prelude to armageddon.
Because for some reason he thought this is a good idea even though the rest of the sane world already declared otherwise. These companies don't give a rat ass about preservation so the moment the server shuts down it's game over. Which is exactly why real gamers want physical copies that much. To preserve gaming from the live service hydra known as AAA game companies
@@nonamepasserbya6658 Oh good, so we're gatekeeping liking digital content now, are we?
@@nonamepasserbya6658 whats the actual Yahtzee quote?
@@Dribbleondo
A preference for physical media is gatekeeping, is it? Better get me one of those Buckingham Palace guard uniforms if that's the case.
When the apocalypse comes (i.e., when the internet goes down for more than six hours), I'd like to still have some games to play while I wait for Lord Humongous to raid at dawn. Good thing the Gamecube is basically indestructible and had some good titles, eh?
@@joevenespineli6389 The difference between Steam and Google is as Yahtzee said himself: "Google don't give a shit". If the apocalypse comes down and all internet is gone Steam promises that it will allow you to still play games without it. Google don't care and won't care for such thing
This the issue with digital software, we dont own any of it. I've lost an entire iTunes library before. Okay it was 13 years ago and iTunes and I was a kid but it still happened. Scarred me ever since.
You do own software if you know how to and these subscriptions are definitely not how to own your stuff.
I long for the days of analog software
Subscriptions are basically a rental service.
I mean it’s the same on steam, Xbox and PlayStation. No one really complains about that lol
Sony has this issue with digital ps4 games disappearing yet they want to enforce the purchase of a ps5 digital edition....what a joke
"Cool, we made the game streaming platform, what do we put on it?"
"How about turn-based RPGs and maybe... Civilization? Emphasize the play-anywhere nature of it and make the most of the latency."
"PUT RHYTHM GAMES, SHOOTERS AND SHOVELWARE ON IT? YOU GOT IT BRO"
Stadia is one actually switched on product manager away from being useful and good. It's an epic tragedy.
@@superchroma it just needs more games
@@SnrubSource it needs targeted games that make sense for the platform. At the moment the bad press and the library of games that benefit from low latency (at full price!) just screams 'expensive disappointment'. Harmonix can make all the rhythm games they want but the Stadia is just not the right tech solution for a tight, reflex based game. They should be selling me the idea that I can play some RPG, leave my house and swap the game to my phone and resuming play on the bus. Play to the strengths of this tech, because they're there.
@@superchroma Cities Skylines would be great for Stadia
@@SnrubSource yep exactly. This is exactly the sort of stuff the Stadia needs to turn it around. Stuff like The Sims, Satisfactory, etc. Ok, it's not flashy and cool, but it solves the mobile gaming problem and gives people a reason to use tablets and iPads whilst out and about.
That whole "Russia Suddenly Annexing the Ukraine" bit has uncomfortably become relevant again here 2 years later....
That, and with Stadia as a whole shutting down soon, this review aged like milk.
Remember when “always online” was a sin worse then murder? Well heres a whole system surrounding that very concept.
what do you mean remember, hating that stuff neither stopped being a thing nor did everyone _not_ catch on what this is.
Zack Smith Indeed.
Yeah, that time is called "the present". Always Online? GTFO. GOG, or no buy. I buy a game, I want to have right of ownership over that copy.
@@slyseal2091 Apparently Yahtzee didn't otherwise we would have heard the you know what jingle about never learn anything
TBF, in this case it's definitely acceptable, since it's the whole point.
I don't know why, "it's called 'Gylt' not 'Generally Feeling Pretty Okay About Things," got me but I can't stop laughing.
He even made it Gynerally
Thyngs*
Laughyng*
I'm impressed that Yahtzee was able to see through the hidden meaning. I mean, they changed an entire letter of the word for the title.
@@Boss-_ , they changed an entire letter...AND they completely threw out another letter! They didn't expect Yahtzee would be a master codebreaker.
Stadia is for that extremely small neich of "people who cant aford consoles" and "people who can aford really good internet"
@@renmcmanus no, even we have half a brain
So any country with good internet coverage but have import restriction to any PC parts or all console other than Stadia. Blimey that's incredibly specific
I can afford consoles and I have my PS4 gathering dust. I also recently got rid of my previous PC and have a brand new one with just the CPU's GPU in a mini-ITX box. Stadia is my way of playing games now and I don't plan to ever look back to maintaining a noisy console, having cables, deciding which game to delete to make room for Doom Eternal, fearing that I'll lose all my games when next-gen comes out, waiting for downloads, waiting for updates, having a noisy PC, and all that cr*p.
A better description would be: Stadia is suitable for people that don't want to waste time and effort in overhead.
Now, if only Diablo 4 comes to Stadia, I won't have to get a PS5.
@@0v13 Found the Google employee!
@@nocturnal101ravenous6 I'm r/Stadia quite frequently and I haven't seen anyone having issues with the service itself. Most problems are either because someone uses a very old PC that can't decode fast enough, or use wifi instead of cable, or have some other software issue. Feel free to open a thread in r/Stadia to get the problem resolved.
p.s.1. Have you tried it yourself?
p.s.2. It's going to be a looooong way (probably never) until something replaces PC gaming. Non-casual PC gaming is a category by itself, that neither Stadia nor Consoles can replace.
Yahtzee - "Imagine your entertainment options if your internet went down"
Me - severe nam style flashbacks of watching the Lord of the Rings extended edition box-set for nearly a month and breaking out an old VCR player to watch Die Hard for a change of pace because something chewed the wire underground and they had trouble finding exactly where
Me - Looks up from book in confusion.
@@somitomi
*Returns from a walk*: Why the long faces?
*Suddenly wakes from daydream* Bluh, you guys say something?
@@HoodedLord I can relate to you and the walk thing
‘Me flashing back to the summer in high school when our internet would only work for 10 minutes of any given hour and I frantically built up a mini e-book library any time finding/downloading books was possible.‘
I was so excited to hear the "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, teeheehee!" jingle, I literally said "Say the line!" as your intro music was wrapping up and started bobbing my head in preparation. Whatever the entertainment equivalent of blueballs is, you gave it to me.
He isn't blueballing. He legit thinks it's good even though any sane person knows that Google is pulling a "games are service" bullshit that EA did. He ain't no real gamer so he don't understand how damaging this will be if it takes off
@@nonamepasserbya6658 He likely knows but didn't feel ripped off yet because he got it for free. Even so it isn't exactly his job to repeat what clearly everyone here knows already.
No Name Passerby A “ain’t no real gamer”
Do you even know what the sun looks like?
@@mc-ps-playa5569 is it that yellow polka dot in the sky that makes my eyes feel funny when I look at it?
@@nomisloper1091 You just have to stare longer to build up polka-dot immunity. Your eyes will stop feeling funny after that. They won't feel much of anything, really.
“A limited amount of AAA Titles that everyone stopped talking about around the same time everyone stopped talking about Russia annexing Ukraine”
*_OOF_*
The Crimea region of Ukraine.
I think he said exiting.
EDIT:
Wait, no, that was Georgia, sorry, thinking of another event.
I thought about it recently. Very short attention span, I mean. TLOU2: massive shitstorm the game is most recent example
@@tentringer4065 You mean Russia.....Crimea is Russian......
@@fabricatorzayac Well, it's not like anyone can take back Russia's land....unless it decides to give it away again.....
If a first month's subscription is free, there should be no need for credit card information at that point.
Ah, but that's the whole point - you enter your card info, and then you forget to unsubscribe for couple months, while they get money. That's how all subscription services with free trial work.
The credit card is also used to make sure you're not cheating by making a new account eveyr month
email swapping hasn't worked in years, if the company knows what it's doing.
@@SuccubiPie It works on the vast majority of things. The only two things they'll typically duplication check for is your credit card information and IP address
youre supposed to forget to cancel it. thats the point. we know this already.
The emotion in Yahtzee's voice at 4:16 is incredible. It's like you can HEAR his smug.
Stadia or as I like to call it:
*_Ouya 2: Electric Googloo._*
Googaloo*
Ouya? Oh yeah..
Nah, Stadia actually works really well, it just needs more games.
That is a far too underrated comment. Clever on several levels right now.
*[glances mournfully at the dusty Ouya in his storage bin]* I thought you might amount to something... but you didn’t amount to shit....
3:02 wow this aged well
It's up there with the time he predicted that 2020 would be "a pretty significant year."
If Stadia didnt charge full price for games, it would've taken off a LOT better than it really did. Shame really.
So, you have a subscription based streaming service, but for a number of titles, you have to shill out extra. And apparently as much as I would have to pay for the game anywhere else without the subscription? Is this about right?
Yea, I can see why that busines model would get a somewhat lukewarm reception...
Also: hey Google, stopp giving Netflix ideas!
Honestly, most games have been heavily discounted at some point since launch. It's pretty much comparable to digital stores on existing consoles.
@@RougeEric Still have to pay for them, still don't get any data locally, so paying anything is too much on top of the sub.
@@Bird_Dog00 Don't forget if shit goes down and the apocalypse knock on our doors, Steam promise you can still play their games without Steam. Google don't care about silly things like preserving games
@@Bird_Dog00 The sub is only needed >1080p (e.g. 4K). You can play purchased games at 1080p without a sub.
“Might not exist in two years”
Jackpot, yahtzee
I NEED TO SEE THAT FULL ARTY INDIE BINGO CARD
Damn. I thought I would hear the "let's all laugh" jingle again.
Absolutely. Cloud-gaming is a bad idea that refuses to die, no matter how many times it fails. Remember LiquidSky? Remember OnLive?!
Oh good I wasn't the only one.
Chu Chow Oh its old enough alright
@@rhubarbjin I played Deus Ex: Human Revolution on OnLive the first time I tried it. I did not care for the input lag but it was workable. Unjustified though since my computer could handle it but, I got a code from someone.
Yahtzee: "something something russia annexing the ukraine"
Me: **scrolls down to comments**
was waiting for the "let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything teeheehee"
Well you can't really apply that here because the concept is novel. Sure companies have tried always-online too often by now but streaming whole games from an entirely off-site library? Just hasn't been done until Google gave it a try. And the credits are right, just about the only people who could pull it off are in Google.
@@donbionicle Then what is PlayStation Now?
@@jackthompson7125 You know what, I honestly hadn't even thought about that. I don't know how Sony gets it to work better than Google, but I suppose it helps that people who use it have already owned a PS of some variety.
That and they're not asking you to buy games on top of all the subscription costs you're already paying.
There's also, you know, NVIDIA's take on this idea.. GeForce Now.
Literally just came to see if it was available yet perfect timing
Me too
@@kentroar911 same
Nobody cares
Stadia's been available since last year I think.
Wait...
4:46 He was pretty close.
3:00 I had to pause and check the date on the video. the signs really were all there.....
Well they were, back in 2014. It was very likely then that Russia was not going to deescalate its aggression.
Check out his Freedom Planet review. He did a precident Trump joke. This was before he was elected.
Is it me or is Yahtzee more chill these days? It even sounds like he's discovered punctuation.
He's been doing this for how long. It was only a matter of time until he calmed down a bit.
I mean, after 10 years of doing a fast paced thing you'd want to at least press the brake a little bit as well.
Yes, but the jokes have definitely improved and it reflects the fact that he's changing and the games industry isn't.
he got all that rage out in a few year timespan and now he is just running of the warm ashy embers like how i did after middle school into high school
It’s apparently because he has a small dog now
Hitting a bit hard with the "Russia annexing Ukraine" jab.
I remember when I got an ad from stadia basically telling me the more games I buy the more games I'll have.
Ah yes, the floor is made of floor. (Yes i stole it from billions of other comments)
I love how he starts reviewing GYLT in the middle of the video😂
3:00 WHY IS THIS RELEVANT AGAIN
2:25 I somehow feel called out. I tried Steam's streaming from my desktop to my laptop, both over the wire on the same network - and even that i found lacking. I guess bright future of streamed games is just not for me...
No, but it's waiting on fiber-optic
If you pay for the premium subscription to Xbox, you get their steaming service included. So the tech is spreading (like a disease?).
I recommend geforce now, honestly. Currently using it and for 5 bucks a month it's actually pretty damn good honestly. You can also try a free version of it but it gives you an hour per session to play
That ending credits gag. Get back in the hamster wheel, Google, you promised me HD streaming!
honestly i would be a lot cooler with it, if they simple let me download and store the games. that way i could still use the streaming for on the go and play on weaker devices, while also knowing that i have a nice copy of the game stored on one of my harddrives. you know just in case the service dies. at least i would still have the game and after a quick crack i could even play it without stadia.
as of right now i just feels like throwing 60 bucks into the void.
or,.. or just turn it into netflix for games. pay a small fee per month and get excess to the whole cataloge.
I think that there was a service like that back when Netflix still just threw DVDs at you in exchange for money. I think it was GameFly?
Either way, even Netflix doesn't have all the things like it used to due to the festering disease that is exclusivity, which means that you may need to pay for multiple devices just to get what you want, and there's a risk of things moving even after that. Steam and Epic Games are in a fight like that right now, and at least you don't pay just to have the service on top of paying for the games like Stadia and any competitor following in its footsteps.
What do you think about this Zach?
Yeah, or at the very least make the games cost less if they won't change how it works now.
@@tus2521 We both feel the same way about Stadia.
@Dahn GFN is a service where you essentially rent out a virtual PC to stream your games.
Stadia is its own platform just like Xbox, PS, Swtich, and whatever other console comes to mind.
My 3 kids and I daily play on our Stadia accounts without any issues. We have done so since launch in November, so not really sure why you would call it "shite".
Also, the "subscription" is primarily to give you the ability to play a game @ 4k60fps & 5.1 surround sound as long as the Developer ports the game at max settings. You also get free monthly games. Stadia first promised 1 free game per month, but has been delivering 2+ games since launch. June we received 6 games, and July we got 4 games.
If you opt for the free version of Stadia, you get 1080 & stereo sound.
There is also no fee to play multi player games as you would expect to pay for Xbox, PS & Nintendo.
A lot of people confuse the "subscription" part to mean Netflix, but it is actually more like Amazon Prime. You have Prime (Pro) titles that you can play, and you have non-Prime (Non-Pro) games that you can buy. There are also tons of sales that rotate monthly with Pro subs getting better sales then non-Pro members.
I just wanted to shine some light since i am a Stadia user.
I remember when building my current rig a coworker speaking up about Stadia. Saying something along the lines of "you wont need computers like that any more". Explaining there wasn't supposed to be any lag or issues.
I wonder what he's doing now. Because I've been busy installing my massive library of Steam games and *acquiring* a massive and entirely legal dragon's hoard of classic console games for emulation.
I hope he's out there somewhere with a Stadia subscription. Satisfied with himself for eagerly embracing the future.
Well not just did Yahtzee predict Russia annexing Ukraine, he also predicted Stadia eventually closing down (one is more obvious than the other, you may choose which one is which).
0:57 Yes, the aesthetic design of the space IS my primary concern when buying entertainment hardware. Just like when I swapped out my lottery win Rolls Royce for a mini cooper because the colour clashed with my garage.
My internet is so unreliable that it just doesn't matter
He called it at 2 years. Stadia is over now, 2 years after this video. Spooky
“To prop up someone else’s IP on a delivery system you have no stake in that might not exist in two years”
So when are we gonna just admit that Yahtzee’s a prophet?
Watching this from my future year of 2022, that "Russia annexing Ukraine" joke is suddenly a lot more uncomfortable...
"Might not exist in two years." Two years later and it's dead.
4:47 boy did he call it or what?
1:53 "Just several more things" I love that so much
Oh wow 2:58 came back around to being topical again.
That bit about people not talking about Russia annexing Ukraine hits different in the current climate.
*Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything tee hee hee*
I talked about Stadia with my friend and he noted how Netflix regularly removes some stuff from their site. So he said if you paid for a game you like but it gets the axe then sucks to be you. I guess that’s why people don’t seem into it.
3:19 stopped to laugh at the indie bingo card but it turned disturbing
4:46 aged like fine wine
3:02
Well that joke aged well.
I can't believe your videos still make me laugh 10+ years down the line ! "If this were Nintendo the senior staff would be looking to have any fingers left to hack off in shame" got me good
I hope every attempt at turning gaming into a "digital only streaming service in the cloud" thing where you don't have the machine or the games at home, crashes and burns. I hope this concept never catches on.
I hate the idea of now having the things and depending on the internet, a service, and the good will of a company that can delete stuff any day. (remember what happened to PT?).
it would be a nightmare for preservation too.
so, let's keep the model where we actually own the devices and the games.
This is the opposite direction from where I'd like to see gaming go. I understand the benefits of no installs or patches, but every other facet of the system seems subpar. The fidelity is woeful (and I DO care about that sort of thing), but the input lag is the real killer for me. I wouldn't be able to play anything but sightseeing games given my internet connection.
I'm looking forward to more powerful, more PC-like consoles in the upcoming generation. For the first time, we aught to see general parity with PC's (at least at launch), and as someone who's never owned a gaming computer, I'm jazzed. ;)
You can actually get a decent gaming PC experience these days without having to sell a kidney if you're interested in the scene at all.
@@spork8655 Yeah, but it is still nowhere as cheap as console. Unfortunately, you can't buy a PC for €350 (price of PS4)
@@ivanrzhanoy9389 I just meant that you don't have to spend $1200+ to get a good experience is all.
(You can build a PC out of used parts for the cost of a PS4 Pro but there will be lots of compromises)
There is no input lag, at least on my shitty 25MB wifi
3:00 that aged a bit weird didnt it Putin??
2:42 Being called a "velvet fuck sock," has to be the nicest thing anybody has called me all year!
That Russia annexing Ukraine comment feels far too contemporary for being recorded back in 2020...
4:22 Let’s go bowling!
3:00 that didn't age well
Considering Stadia's reputation I was kind of expecting the "Let's all laugh" jingle
Stadia is just silly. Games cost more, look worse (even before compression), you have to pay extra for good audio and 4k, if the service shuts down you lose literally everything. And Xcloud is coming out soon bundled with both game passes and xbox live gold. Stadia has no place.
Have you actually tried it though?
@@ThomasJarvis117 Yes, founders edition.
Sure
Allot of it depends on the ISP and that they provide a fast and stable connection and are relatively close to a Google data center. Luckily they provide a free month to test it out but i feel for the founders that did not have that ability to test it out first.
@@Kim-Ryden Honestly, the streaming part of Stadia is actually fantastic, it's just, the everything else part of Stadia. That's why i'm still excited for Xcloud and GeForce Now, from what i've seen those fix the problems while keeping the positive
Well, that's that.
In a world where corporations were honest and technology was 100% reliable something like this could conceivably work. Unfortunately the real world is the exact opposite and so something like this will probably never work
I wasn't expecting "the path" to make a cameo now that is an old hidden gem
2:57 This joke
Gylt finally got a Steam release, so if you were interested in checking it out you can grab it there. Might want to wait for a sale though, $20 is a bit much for such a short game. It was fun and if you read all the diaries scattered throughout the whole story will make a lot more sense. A bit of Dark Souls style world building where the information is there, it's just up to you whether you want to read it or not.
This entire video aged like Milk. From the Russia joke to the fact Stadia is now being discontinued
Yahtzee hedges his bets pretty well. A milk-based wine, if you will
He's a master cheese maker.
There is a Tolkien quote "Languages need stories to survive". He felt Esperanto was doomed. Perfectly designed Esperanto had no mythos. Latin is a very complex dead language but with incredible history. What do you know more of? This is how I feel about stadia.
click video.. scroll to comments.. sort by newest first... wheres my popcorn?
Welp that "Russia annexing Ukraine" gag didn't age well...
I honestly forgot stadia even existed like 1 week after it dropped
So did google.
@@SupaDanteX It's literally still a thing. And they just created a first party studio. And they got the original God of War developer for it. And they added a ton more games.
@@StadiaTime That's...really encouraging actually. It's a shame living in Australia means I'll never be even remotely able to effectively use it.
Ironically the way people though Stadia would work initially before Google revealed the details would have been a far better approach then what it ultimately is.
If Stadia basically was the game equivalent of Netflix where a single monthly fee gave you full access to 100:s of dollars worth of games (and assuming there was a good enough lineup) people would have been all over the platform.
Xbox game pass works like that. Xbox hasn't really been successful though.
You didn’t mention how none of the promotional features were available at launch... or since.
I thought this was supposed to be like a subscription library. Having to buy the games anyway is absurd.
The subscription isn't madatory to play the games you pay for so it isn't that absurd.
I prefer to pay for a game that I will pay rather than paying for a subscription with games that I’ll never play 🤐
@@Problematist So you can boot up Stadia games locally without using the streaming service?
Soooooooooooooooooo about that russia annexing Ukraine joke
2:57 So I guess we're talking about these AAA titles again?
This was way less complaining than I thought would be in a zp stadia video
Because it's genuinely not a bad platform. It has its problems, but if you meet the minimum requirements and your internet isn't terrible it works perfectly. Also, he was wrong. You don't need the subscription to play games you buy.
@@StadiaTime sure the playing experience might be good if you have good enough internet but the lack of games and the weird business model is a big turn off
I have to say, I think it's pretty galling that they make you pay for the service and then have to pay for the games on top of that. There is a reason Netflix doesn't make you pay for each movie, and youtube doesn't make you pay for the service. It's one or the other people... and yes you can still buy access to movies and tv shows on youtube.
They don't make you pay for Pro on top of the games. You can play the games you individually paid for without any subscription. This is just a big misconception that Yahtzee wouldn't know since he didn't buy any games on there.
Oh no... that russia joke.
I love how almost every Stadia review vid I've seen alludes to it not being around too long. Lo and behold, not even a full year after this video was posted and... *crickets*... 😂.
The Ukraine joke really didn't age well, did it?
1:50 you're a man of true culture I see Yahtzee, my respect for you has gone up dramatically
That Ukraine comment has become quite relevant now huh?
"You ever take a look around and think what your entertainment options are if your internet went down and your hard drives wiped?"
Yes Yahtzee, I do, which is why I still keep my PS3 around, and failing that I still have an NES emulator in the shape of a smaller GameBoy Color
The most exited I’ve ever felt to hear about stadia
The trouble with Stadia is similar to what killed that godawful “Quibi” service or whatever. People don’t want to pay an overpriced monthly subscription for something that already exists in a perfectly acceptable state for a relatively low one-time purchase.
you dont need a subscription, and there is also people who don't want to spend 1000's for a pc to set up themselves or a console for 800 where you have to pay just to play online, i spent 100 on stadia and 40 on games with the free pro discounts and I'm able to play next gen games for $140 vs $900+, stadia is perfect for the casual gamer who has more important things to spend their money on
5:31
Game streaming has been done before/right now:
Nvidia GeForce Now
Sony Playstation Now
Shadow
Jump
Playkey
Parsec (also has local)
Does not catch on because why would I run 720p30 over my internet when I can have 4k60 locally?
Those are all worse in most aspects, except the game library (except GeForce Now. "Oh boy, I'm gonna go play continue playing this game tomorrow? Wait, where'd it go?"), and Stadia is not made for hardcore gamers who own PCs
@@SnrubSource Oh that's rich, criticizing GeForce Now for removing access to content while simultaneously defending Google "I wonder what product is getting the axe today" Stadia. All game streaming is flawed but Microsoft is the closest to getting it right by letting you choose when you want to stream and at no extra cost. Stadia is just as irrelevant as the rest of the services listed above.
The biggest chance for gaming product success is a huge splash on day 1. Stadia barely managed a drip. The writing is on the wall, unless there are big changes in Stadia's future it's going to sit on a sliver of marketshare until Google decides it's not worth the expense of maintaining.
@@starlitsnake Stadia isn't getting axed any time soon.
hmm you mean Microsoft 'put 100 millions in a streamingplatform and taking it down'- microsoft?
Stadia. For those of you that really don’t want to own anything and always want to owe corporations everything. Those of you that love the feeling of risk that at any time your “possessions” could be taken away at any time because it was decided that it was no longer supported or changed to another service.
How kind of you to give such a young soul a very well deserved eulogy.
In addition to GYLT, another indie Stadia exclusive worth checking out is Lost Words: Beyond the Page. Written by Rhianna Pratchett, it is a unique, simple narrative puzzle/platform game for most ages. I think it's absolutely fantastic and deserves its awards. The red dress on the girl is optional in that game, by the way.
Expected Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything tee hee hee
Just wanna say I've realized I've been watching zero punctuation since I was introduced to it on XPlay and then I realized how old long that really is. So, thanks for all of the reviews until now and thanks for all the reviews yet to come.
Oh this was uploaded 50 minutes ago? Feels like at least 3 months
You do know that some of us still have consoles from like 10 to 20 years ago, we got all entertainment we need even when the internet is down.
3:01 Oh Jesus... ._.
Seeing "The Path" gives me serious LDO nostalgia
This video aged like a fine milk wrapped in a plastic bag and left in the sun