Recovery takes discipline...don't cut off your nose to spite your face...if the body is creaking drop a run or at least use a drop back weekly properly...if you have niggles take a couple of days off..you will lose nothing and only gain from the recovery...another good vid
Multiple rest days with nothing more intense than an average walk makes aches and pains go away. Did my first 5k after 4 days rest, it made hip amd ankle pains go away. Hope your tendon and calf feel better.
Well done Andy. I'm in peak training for London Marathon and I had to abandon an "easy" run this week. Was supposed to be 6 miles but my legs were shot to bits so I called it a day after 2.5 miles. Two days later I went out and smashed a 20 mile long run. Recovery is really important. It's left me short on planned milage for the week but in the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes. Best to look at the bigger picture.
Well done Colin, great to hear that you thought it was all getting too much to then nail a hard run just days later. Our bodies are simple old things really, be kind to them and they'll be capable of big things. Over work them and they'll naturally put the brakes on!
Great to see you taking a few rest days Andy. Must admit i was crossing my fingers you wouldn't get injured cos I think it was coming. Keep up the great work - I'm training for London and my training has run alongside yours, so seeing you go through the trials and tribulations has helped me keep going 👍
Good stuff Liam, you're the week after me so you can see all the mistakes I'll make no doubt.. Feeling better after a bit of a rest, and I'm happy the taper is finally here! Best of luck!
Another solid week mate - still on track for that 3:42. I’ve got the opposite problem - I’ve been favouring intensity over distance. Think the longest I have gone is 17 miles but at a way quicker pace than I am aiming on the day - I am now worried I have t got the volume in
I think you'll be just fine mate. Your aerobic base is in really good shape so adding speed in there will stand you in good stead. I'm learning that there is no proper way to do train for a marathon, only 'your' way. See you up there ❤️
It is difficult when you are training harder than you ever have before to know the level of fatigue that your body can take before it breaks. On the last week of peak training my left calf was complaining a lot and just ached all the time. It did not feel injured but I did not know if I should back off or not. The following week was a cutback week ending in a race and I decided I would just carry on and hope for the best. All that week, particularly the day after and any day of intensity it ached, was still aching the morning of parkrun and wondered if it was going to backfire on race day. Morning of the race most of the aching had gone and I had a great race. That was last weekend and now I am in the first of a two week taper and with the reduced mileage my calf is feeling better day by day but I was definitely at the limit and could not have pushed on too much further and played it just right. I have had similar situations in the past where I pushed too much and did not get away with it. You just need to listen to your body and make a judgement call and sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. Either way you learn. Easy for me to say as I went into my last marathon with a foot injury and it did not end well. Hope your legs starts to recover in this weeks training and if you need the rest then that last is what you should do, the training from the rest of the block is banked and you will not lose fitness with a little bit of rest.
That's the thing I guess, you'll never know if it was worth the gamble until you know if it was worth it! Hope that training is going OK for you atm and thanks for all of your wisdom!
@@itsonandy training is all banked. Just 5 days out from my marathon and wondering what that strange feeling was in my legs this morning on my easy run. Think it must be what running without fatigue feels like, it has been so long.
Great video mate good decision to have a break it wont hurt you you will nail 340 marathon no problem you will feel nice and rested and fresh on the day its all a learning curve mate thats how we get better 👌👍
Felt great last week, but had a tough one this week. They can’t all be winners, I guess! Almost there, Andy. Your legs will be fresh on the day, I’m sure.
Nice one Mack. Loved your recce of the route! I didn't actually realise you were doing the race until recently! Looks like you're in great shape mate - not long to go now!
Daisy is the absolute best haha! so great when she tried so hard to ignore that swan 😅 hope your legs feel better soon! where would you have wanted to let your streak end ‚naturally‘? would you have run the Marathon as part of that streak?
She's awesome isn't she... She would find out the hard way that swans don't like to 'play'... Ideally yes, I wanted to go 3 months - but this week knocked the enthusiasm outta me! I'll go again one day and try and get treble figures 💪🏻❤️
Can't believe you got to the 50 days. Fair play to you mate. See you tomorrow...looking like a wet morning. I'll toot the horn on the way past you on your long run to the start 👍. And nothing wrong with walking breaks in the long runs. I've read that many pro-triathletes do it so I've used that info to my benefit in the past
Maybe I'll do a video on it one day - all I know now is that I want to beat the previous 50 day streak now, it's addictive! Feeling much better with rest and recovery this last 10 days or so now!
If it ain't broke... I honestly don't know. I like to use them after a run to compress my calves a bit, but rarely do that these days. All I do know is that most of us have had deal with shin splints, and they're bloody horrible. Glad they're working for you! They're a very useful bit of kit to own!
Enjoy the rest Andy, its fully deserved after a 50 day streak. You will smash Manchester i am sure. I’m currently laid up with ice on my calf which has ruined my training for the last 3 weeks 😔 Come back too early from it once so all i can do now is rest and hope for the best
Hi Andy, I’ve been following your training for Manchester (since I am doing Manchester too) and I think, honestly if you keep going in this way, you are in sub 3.30 shape. You have just to prioritize a little bit more recovery and soon tapering will come. Good luck and do not doubt yourself
well to be in sub 3:30 shape you need a half marathon pb of 1:35 at least. I did a 1:37 half last sunday and a 33k long run today, will be running the vienna city marathon in 4 weeks. and if i will finish it under 3:50, i will be very happy!
I would recommend anyone who wants to know a good marathon estimate to plug it into Runalayse... Link that to Strava and away you go For a 3:30 I think you need HM 1:38, certainly a sub 1:40... I've recently done 1:36 but I can tell you I'm not in 3:30 shape. It's a different ball game but it shows your are capable with correct training
@@ezb9289 hi, I mean most of the marathons predictions calculator and coaches out there, give you that marathon time could be half marathon time x 2 + 8/10/12 minutes. So 1:35 HM is actually 3:20/3:25 shape for M. Then of course it depends on your characteristics as runner (more long-distance or short-distance “talent”) and it depends on your training (good mileage, long runs with big session at MP etc.)
@@welshgaz81 yep, I agree, it's a different game HM and M. But according to the typical marathon prediction calculator HM 1.38/1.40 is a potential 3.30 marathon (whit the right training) personal experience, Last year I was a 1.42 HM and after a not so good training block I got a 3.38 M (which is HM x 2 + 14’) not so far from what I was saying to the other guy in the comments
@@francescovuoto1022 Hi, i know all these marathon prediction calculators but if you compare the half marathon PBs of none elite runners with their marathon PBs you will find that 80% to 90% were not able to run the predicted marathon time. In my opinion HM x 2 + 15’ or HM x 2 + 20’ (for most of the runners) is more accurate.
Have an easy week Andy, and maybe do just one intensity session at speed, don't be afraid to take a couple of rest days good for mind and body if needed
Nice one bud, that's exactly how last week went and as a result my Sunday long run went really well. Now I'm in the taper and keeping things low and slow!
You must be so gutted Steve. I'm not sure I would have done anything differently to you, sorry to hear that it's become an injury. Come back stronger than ever, there's always plenty to have a crack at, they will be ready when you are 👊🏻
It was a tough one to realise I needed to end it there, as in your head you think it's low hanging fruit to get a running streak. In actual fact it's bloody hard! I've been enjoying a bit of rest lately and am thankful to not be lacing up every single day! Liked Stratford-upon-Avon, but was a very busy 3 lapper so not one of my favourites but fun nonetheless!
Dude get yourself checked out via a pro for example an osteopath who is familiar with runners. No need to self diagnose nor slip your rest days - even pros take days off. Good luck Andrew, your body will thank you in the future 🙂
Good shout. Fortunately for me the pain has passed since and I went on to have a decent week. I did take some rest though which turned out to be a good move!
Recovery takes discipline...don't cut off your nose to spite your face...if the body is creaking drop a run or at least use a drop back weekly properly...if you have niggles take a couple of days off..you will lose nothing and only gain from the recovery...another good vid
Cheers Gary. Did exactly that last week and felt much better for it!
Multiple rest days with nothing more intense than an average walk makes aches and pains go away. Did my first 5k after 4 days rest, it made hip amd ankle pains go away. Hope your tendon and calf feel better.
Well done Andy. I'm in peak training for London Marathon and I had to abandon an "easy" run this week. Was supposed to be 6 miles but my legs were shot to bits so I called it a day after 2.5 miles. Two days later I went out and smashed a 20 mile long run. Recovery is really important. It's left me short on planned milage for the week but in the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes. Best to look at the bigger picture.
Well done Colin, great to hear that you thought it was all getting too much to then nail a hard run just days later. Our bodies are simple old things really, be kind to them and they'll be capable of big things. Over work them and they'll naturally put the brakes on!
Great to see you taking a few rest days Andy. Must admit i was crossing my fingers you wouldn't get injured cos I think it was coming.
Keep up the great work - I'm training for London and my training has run alongside yours, so seeing you go through the trials and tribulations has helped me keep going 👍
Good stuff Liam, you're the week after me so you can see all the mistakes I'll make no doubt.. Feeling better after a bit of a rest, and I'm happy the taper is finally here! Best of luck!
Another solid week mate - still on track for that 3:42. I’ve got the opposite problem - I’ve been favouring intensity over distance. Think the longest I have gone is 17 miles but at a way quicker pace than I am aiming on the day - I am now worried I have t got the volume in
I think you'll be just fine mate. Your aerobic base is in really good shape so adding speed in there will stand you in good stead. I'm learning that there is no proper way to do train for a marathon, only 'your' way. See you up there ❤️
Loved this series mate and love your honesty. Inspiring stuff 👍
Hero. Thanks Dave - you're a good'un!👊🏻
It is difficult when you are training harder than you ever have before to know the level of fatigue that your body can take before it breaks. On the last week of peak training my left calf was complaining a lot and just ached all the time. It did not feel injured but I did not know if I should back off or not. The following week was a cutback week ending in a race and I decided I would just carry on and hope for the best.
All that week, particularly the day after and any day of intensity it ached, was still aching the morning of parkrun and wondered if it was going to backfire on race day. Morning of the race most of the aching had gone and I had a great race.
That was last weekend and now I am in the first of a two week taper and with the reduced mileage my calf is feeling better day by day but I was definitely at the limit and could not have pushed on too much further and played it just right.
I have had similar situations in the past where I pushed too much and did not get away with it. You just need to listen to your body and make a judgement call and sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. Either way you learn. Easy for me to say as I went into my last marathon with a foot injury and it did not end well.
Hope your legs starts to recover in this weeks training and if you need the rest then that last is what you should do, the training from the rest of the block is banked and you will not lose fitness with a little bit of rest.
That's the thing I guess, you'll never know if it was worth the gamble until you know if it was worth it! Hope that training is going OK for you atm and thanks for all of your wisdom!
@@itsonandy training is all banked. Just 5 days out from my marathon and wondering what that strange feeling was in my legs this morning on my easy run. Think it must be what running without fatigue feels like, it has been so long.
Great video mate good decision to have a break it wont hurt you you will nail 340 marathon no problem you will feel nice and rested and fresh on the day its all a learning curve mate thats how we get better 👌👍
Thank you Neil - I'm mega excited for Manchester now but just need to remember that I need to be as fresh as possible on the start line 😊
Felt great last week, but had a tough one this week. They can’t all be winners, I guess!
Almost there, Andy. Your legs will be fresh on the day, I’m sure.
Nice one Mack. Loved your recce of the route! I didn't actually realise you were doing the race until recently! Looks like you're in great shape mate - not long to go now!
Daisy is the absolute best haha! so great when she tried so hard to ignore that swan 😅 hope your legs feel better soon! where would you have wanted to let your streak end ‚naturally‘? would you have run the Marathon as part of that streak?
She's awesome isn't she... She would find out the hard way that swans don't like to 'play'... Ideally yes, I wanted to go 3 months - but this week knocked the enthusiasm outta me! I'll go again one day and try and get treble figures 💪🏻❤️
Can't believe you got to the 50 days. Fair play to you mate. See you tomorrow...looking like a wet morning. I'll toot the horn on the way past you on your long run to the start 👍. And nothing wrong with walking breaks in the long runs. I've read that many pro-triathletes do it so I've used that info to my benefit in the past
Good fun Sunday wasn't it. Working on the video atm! Walk breaks are heavenly aren't they ❤️
@Running With Andy had a damn good time! That was a fun day all round. If only there were more like that!
Interested to know what you have learned from combining a running streak with marathon preparations.
Maybe I'll do a video on it one day - all I know now is that I want to beat the previous 50 day streak now, it's addictive! Feeling much better with rest and recovery this last 10 days or so now!
I use my calfsleves aswell, i think they work for my early shinsplint problems. But like you said maybe it’s in the head but hey they work 😂
If it ain't broke... I honestly don't know. I like to use them after a run to compress my calves a bit, but rarely do that these days. All I do know is that most of us have had deal with shin splints, and they're bloody horrible. Glad they're working for you! They're a very useful bit of kit to own!
Enjoy the rest Andy, its fully deserved after a 50 day streak. You will smash Manchester i am sure. I’m currently laid up with ice on my calf which has ruined my training for the last 3 weeks 😔 Come back too early from it once so all i can do now is rest and hope for the best
Ah that's bad news Adam. Hope you make a big comeback soon, with lots of rest and gentle recovery I'm sure you'll get there soon. ❤️
3:18 good man! Keep plugging away.
Haha it was either go through it or 2 Miles the other way 🤣 Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Hi Andy, I’ve been following your training for Manchester (since I am doing Manchester too) and I think, honestly if you keep going in this way, you are in sub 3.30 shape. You have just to prioritize a little bit more recovery and soon tapering will come. Good luck and do not doubt yourself
well to be in sub 3:30 shape you need a half marathon pb of 1:35 at least. I did a 1:37 half last sunday and a 33k long run today, will be running the vienna city marathon in 4 weeks. and if i will finish it under 3:50, i will be very happy!
I would recommend anyone who wants to know a good marathon estimate to plug it into Runalayse... Link that to Strava and away you go
For a 3:30 I think you need HM 1:38, certainly a sub 1:40... I've recently done 1:36 but I can tell you I'm not in 3:30 shape. It's a different ball game but it shows your are capable with correct training
@@ezb9289 hi, I mean most of the marathons predictions calculator and coaches out there, give you that marathon time could be half marathon time x 2 + 8/10/12 minutes. So 1:35 HM is actually 3:20/3:25 shape for M. Then of course it depends on your characteristics as runner (more long-distance or short-distance “talent”) and it depends on your training (good mileage, long runs with big session at MP etc.)
@@welshgaz81 yep, I agree, it's a different game HM and M. But according to the typical marathon prediction calculator HM 1.38/1.40 is a potential 3.30 marathon (whit the right training) personal experience, Last year I was a 1.42 HM and after a not so good training block I got a 3.38 M (which is HM x 2 + 14’) not so far from what I was saying to the other guy in the comments
@@francescovuoto1022 Hi, i know all these marathon prediction calculators but if you compare the half marathon PBs of none elite runners with their marathon PBs you will find that 80% to 90% were not able to run the predicted marathon time. In my opinion HM x 2 + 15’ or HM x 2 + 20’ (for most of the runners) is more accurate.
Have an easy week Andy, and maybe do just one intensity session at speed, don't be afraid to take a couple of rest days good for mind and body if needed
Nice one bud, that's exactly how last week went and as a result my Sunday long run went really well. Now I'm in the taper and keeping things low and slow!
Tough week but if you do the taper correctly and recover well you should easily smash your goal.
Cheers Kathy, I'm looking forward to this next 3 weeks of reduced mileage and intensity!
Good luck with your self running y our race we get things happed to us but running 👍
Thank you Lorraine 😊
What shoes did you do the park run in , Andy?
It was the Takumi Sen 8 (adidas). Probably the wrong choice for that muddy course!
Run streaks are terrible for marathon PBs. I’ve had to force myself to take Mondays and Fridays off this block and I’ve never felt better.
I can totally see why - no proper recovery time can't be good. I'm glad I called it a day!
Be careful of the niggle. I trained through my calf niggle and now I'm out of Newport and Leeds MND Marathons (consultant advice) GUTTED!!!
You must be so gutted Steve. I'm not sure I would have done anything differently to you, sorry to hear that it's become an injury. Come back stronger than ever, there's always plenty to have a crack at, they will be ready when you are 👊🏻
Smart choice to have a break. Not worth the risk of messing with Manchester
Cheers Oskar, I had a couple of days of no running last week and it felt really good 👍🏻
Stratford parkrun? Yep done that one :-)😂 . Sensible call to end the streak before it became an obsession and derailed your marathon.
It was a tough one to realise I needed to end it there, as in your head you think it's low hanging fruit to get a running streak. In actual fact it's bloody hard! I've been enjoying a bit of rest lately and am thankful to not be lacing up every single day! Liked Stratford-upon-Avon, but was a very busy 3 lapper so not one of my favourites but fun nonetheless!
Dude get yourself checked out via a pro for example an osteopath who is familiar with runners. No need to self diagnose nor slip your rest days - even pros take days off. Good luck Andrew, your body will thank you in the future 🙂
Good shout. Fortunately for me the pain has passed since and I went on to have a decent week. I did take some rest though which turned out to be a good move!