You know Grant was sweating the questions the entire time when he has to add the disclaimer of "if he convinces me otherwise, he still gets the point".
Subsourian instantly getting "remote planetoid XT39323," Grant thinking he's got him, and then Subsourian turning out to be right, is the perfect encapsulation of how hilariously one-sided this video is.
Huge thanks Grant for putting me on, this was a blast to do! It turns out the Russet question wasn't even the scene I was thinking of, the one where Raynor's mom is cooking IS her making a salad with tubers which is what first came to mind. The Shiloh Russet appears in The Fightin SceeVees where Raynor's peeling one when he's denying his SCVs vacation leave. True lore facts! But I'll never live the Shiloh Russet down. I will say on the wiki while I wrote a lot of the modern stuff, I basically inherited it from Hawki and PsiSeveredHead who are the loremasters who came before me. So credit to them for keeping it together in the old days since it's a wiki that's existed since the wikia/wikipedia split (fun fact StarCraft was one of the pages deemed too descriptive on Wikipedia and we were told to trim it down or scoot to a new wiki host, back before that was a common thing). Big credit to MarKreations Studios who did like 90% of the VA hunting work to lead us to figure out some of the oddities of BW voice acting and setting the record straight. Whole reason we have that question! The Stukov tattoo was actually partially a promise from Grant's character contest if he won! But also, I was planning on doing that anyway since I got a first level 100 Stukov with a friend in Heroes. No youtube channel but I tend to do stuff more in text, so happy to answer any lore questions on the subreddit! And make sure to donate to TTG to subject Grant to some revenge trivia and keep our GOATed mapmakers making great content.
Grant: *about to ask a question* Subsourian: *Answers correctly before Grant can even finish the question and makes him rethink his life choices * Grant : *Nervous Laugh *
"What happened in 1628?!" Oh, easy. The Swedish flagship Vasa sank 20 minutes after leaving harbor on her maiden voyage because they were inept when making it. Guess the UED was really really interested in that.
Guess it is proof that like Stargate there are other advanced humans out in the universe, and that the United Earth Directorate conquered or took over Earth at some point. We can only assume Earth had a cooler culture and better video games, so they rebranded to Earth. lol
I'm not kidding and I hope Subsourian sees this: The work he's doing is INCREDIBLY important. Broodwar came out just over 20 years ago and we don't know who voiced Stukov??? This type of information gathering and organizing is vastly underappreciated and I'm glad he's doing it. Because as we can see even Blizzard can't always be bothered.
Blizzard doesn't care about stuff like this at all... Sadly... Without people like him, all this knowledge and trivia, that really makes a franchise great, would be basically lost.
Other units having panic quotes when they're under attacked Medic: *"Oooh, better send some bodybags"* in the calmest voice ever Yep I definitely see her more of a criminal than a ghost tbh
I know they're both nerazim, so racially it's acceptable, but Zeratul is lifetimes older, weird. They probably have orc-like birthing vats, but beautiful and mystical, with a couple high templar chanting.
Well we don't know the accepted age difference for the Protoss, might be totally normal for them. Aaaand also I chose this pair because those two are the most likely male/female protoss figures someone has imo.
"You at home, you haven't gotten a single question right." Oh but I did! I immediately thought of the Medic for "least crimes", stopped to consider the rest of the lineup, remembered at the back of my mind that Marauders were claimed to be either not criminals or just less criminal, AND had the thought that ghosts wouldn't count because their atrocities were government-sanctioned. I snatched up every facet of that question before unpausing and letting the conversation play out :D Yep, that's my grand flex: I got ONE right. Just one. Subsourian is absolutely insane, and this was the perfect way to showcase his greatness. Loved every second of this one
I actually got 2 "right", the one about primal roaches because that one can be learned from playing HotS, and the aberration origin one because I remember subsourian discussing that one on discord.
More like the Agria colonists were specifically used by Kerrigan in an attempt to destabilize the Dominion in hopes they would be taken in and basically infest every major population centre. So Mengsk was right yet again!
Super condensing events is a running problem in a lot of fiction really, stemming from authors not really thinking of how long things tend to take in real life, or not caring.
It actually tracks if you assume the outbreaks were carried between planets and not just that two planets were sperately infested. Its not likely a dormant carrier will remain dormant for long. On the other hand it feels bizarre a colony as big as the one on outbreak could be constructed in that short a time
Protoss reproduce through a similar process of two templar archoning, they merge, the excess energy spawns a new protoss, and then they unmerge, exhausted. archconing is esessentailly edging
This isn't even like asking the author of a book about something - this is like asking a encyclopedic historian with a doctorate from the universe of Starcraft.
I made a movie in high school and a year after I graduated I came back to visit and one of the kids said a line and winked at me. I literally had no idea what he was referring to but it was my movie. Fans often know a work better than the author.
@@rosey_is_a_girl I mean it literally is in some cases, as is said in the video, subsourian wrote like the majority if the wiki, and that's about as close to the book as you'd get I think lmao
Subsourian is the man. He really needs his own youtube channel. This may just end up the highlight of GGG's summer blowout EDIT: it absolutely was, honestly this was mesmerizing and I just wish there were more questions, or that they delved deeper into obscure trivia so Subsourian could cite it at us. I WANT to know the canonical distinctions in UED tech that they actually managed to haul all the way from Earth.
34:31 I beat ya too it years ago telling Subsorian about this Grant LMAO, I'm the friend he mentions. I remember emailing Jason Hayes and he claimed his wife did the Medic, and I asked Glynnis again and she was like "Nuh uh. that was me" so we STILL DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE DID IT!!! Also Glynnis says she RECORDED FOR THE MEDIC IN STARCRAFT 2, but was replaced when they replaced her as Kerrigan! So we really have no idea!!
@@hannahlewis7910 Most likely they did, but it seems so improbable that they voiced it so similarly that they both can listen to it and say "that's me."
I really appreciate Grant trying (and succeeding to any other person) to make impossible questions that weren't just "did you memorize this background character's name? It's only mentioned one time ever" Shout out to Subsourian for having a brain the size of a leviathan
The real amazing part is that Grant literally did go "did you memorize this background character's name" with Bralik, and Subsourian still knew it! The number of people who even know that guy has a name probably doesn't even reach the triple digits.
"Except they are being ordered by the government to do it so it is technically not a crime" You are technically correct, the best kind of correct. Something is only technically a crime if the government deems it to be so, anything else literally doesn't matter. lol Kinda like that Australian solider who we know for a fact murdered a bunch of people in Afghanistan/Iraq and was given medals for it, and the whistleblower who exposed it -got life in prison.- *edit he got 5 years 8 months last May actually, it could have potentially been life though.
arguably the crime is based on where you commit the crime, not where you are tried for the crime. Its why countries still call people who extradite away criminals, because they literally are at least accused of committing a crime. (and also, probably more relevantly, why so many chinese companies can make obvious fake knockoffs of things, if they were in the US, which if we're using this analogy to mean ghosts, they would be, they would be crimed up, but since they live somewhere else no crimes are being committed)
@@TheDeadAwsome Don't remember the soldiers name, whistleblower was David Mcbride though. Despite Australia having whistleblower protection laws they still went out of their way to get him on a technicality Al Capone style, it was quite fucked up.
Grant being baffled about how little actual time passed in universe for WoL and HotS is about how baffled I was how the Halo trilogy was only a few months or so. Also the reaction to the final answer just gave me a good laugh. Honestly Protoss reproduction could be based around their Psionic abilities, maybe they just combine some of their powers together and coalesce it. A physical body just kind of forms. Given the Protoss themselves sustain themselves via absorbing energy rather than food maybe they also reproduce by fragmenting a part of themselves to manifest what are essentially offspring.
Halo at least has several games taking place specifically WHILE others are taking place. With Starcraft all the campaigns and missions are explicitly one after the other, which hits way harder when Blizz then say "Yeah it all took like 2 hours, the speedrun is canon"
I feel like the difference with Halo is also the genre. Like, things like the fall of Reach happen in real time, and it's not too infeasible that only little time passes between games. But for starcraft 2, with the different situations and everything, like the dominion war against the zerg in the background we only see via news articles, it feels like the missions alone take place months apart, while you also can't really take the in game actions and time at face value
protossl didn't discover their psionic talents for thousands of years, they'd have to reproduce the old fashioned way. that's like saying humans use electricity to reproduce. we'd have gone extinct 200,000 years ago
Thats odd bc I am playing through the trilogy rn for the first time(never owned an Xbox, was a Nintendo and eventually Sony kid) and right away with halo 2 it seemed to be clear you'd gotten back to earth just long enough to get your armor repaired and do a photo op, when the covenant appear. Like those games are very fast paced
@@OldSpaghettifactory89 this is also including the time gap between halo CE and Halo 2, plus also the slipspace jump from earth to Delta halo took some time to achieve, it wasn’t a same day event. It’s why in lore when going into Slipspace crew members go into cryostasis, to preserve supplies and sanity during the trip.
In 1628 Dutch admiral Piet Hein captures the Spanish treasure fleet in the Battle in the Bay of Matanzas So despite looking Russian, we can assume the Dutch founded the UED
UED is have, like, English and Russian as official languages as far as i (barely) remember? So like USA and USSR cast their animosity aside and united or something
I got a few questions right actually: - Jim Raynor's birth planet - The origin of the Aberration - The origin of the Roach - Hank Harnak with his flamethrower
35:15 Read the chat, the comments there got me rolling Speacially Dat_Babbage's comment Grant: "oh this will be hard" Subsourian : "oh we actually interviewed the husband of one them " That shit had me in tears Chat is always amazing
That’s it, make the lore master do a trivia on StarCraft: meme edition Not even the lore master will understand why Karax has an extreme fascination with solarite
Oh wow. Watching Subsourian 'answer' the questions (and the sometimes the next one too) was a real blast. I didnt know a trivia show can be so fun in a way that doesn't involve participants giving stupid answers :P
You can listen to Abathur complaining about the primals stealing his designs in the campaign if you speak to him on the leviathan. So I did get one right >:)
EYYYY, I GOT ONE The Mercenary Chief who contracts with Raynor specifically says that he's giving him first pick because the bartender makes a great Mai Tai!
This was absolutely ridiculous and amazing to watch, ROFL!!! 😂😂😂. Answering questions before they are even asked, snap reply with a serial code of a planet name, and even answering a "your mom" joke question!
Protoss are lizards who use a lot of water metaphors. Pond hatcheries makes the most sense. Which means Blizzard will probably come up with something bonkers, like planting a Protoss skull causes a dozen fully grown Protoss to sprout.
@@unaiestanconapelaez2526 Why would you start a calendar from the date where you just stole some stuff? But getting beaten by swamp germans while you are one of the biggest empires sounds like a traumatic enough event to restart the calendar.
The question about who voices the medic, if both of them insist they voiced it then its quite likely that they both did a recording session so they both remember needing to do that but nobody knows for certain who actually got their recordings put in the actual game.
I know it's not possible to do endless challenge videos of starcraft, and i gotta say, this was a perfect segue of SC2 content. I am absolutely loving the direction this channel keeps moving in. Bringing in other big names in the scene of stacraft, not just in terms of pro gamers is such a cool thing to do, and this video was an absolute blast to watch, even though i managed to answer 0 questions correctly.
Favourite mission for me is for sure Colonist 2: Outbreak - love the mix of hunkering down and surviving, and the opposite, where you need to hunt for targets while the sun is up
I would absolutly LOVE a channel FULL of Subsourian rants but also just well thought out lore videos. The little videos in the meme campaign were AMAZING. PLEASE Subsourian PLEASE!!
This is incorrect. There was a dev post in the story forums ~2 years ago that went into the timeline because of the SL --> DF timeskip, and it stated that DF starts 40 years after the Dark Portal opened. For reference, TBC was in year 26, MoP was in year 30, and SL started in year 35.
I always figured the reason the Dominion finds them with the Umojans is because of the ruckus Kerrigan causes during her little temper tantrum. Given the Dominion shows up like immediately after that mission, I just assumed they must’ve put out a distress signal or some comms got intercepted during the panic.
The question of how protoss reproduce reminds me of reading fan discussions on the topic all the way back in the early 00s. At this point I don't ever want them to answer it.
I'm with subsorian on the ghost thing only because of the technicality that if you commit a crime (like assassination, murder, espionage, etc.) but the government says that you're actually exempt from doing crimes (like the dominion would say about any of their psi-operatives) you're technically not a criminal. Meanwhile a medic doesn't get any of that leniency and the medivac has lore about a medic pilot murdering a bunch of marines for calling her dropship a healbus and that's one more criminal crime on record than any ghosts 👍 See, grant you made a semantics error where you called them a *criminal* rather than a *commiter of crimes*. Ghosts commit war crimes and crimes against humanity all the time, but they're almost never branded as a *criminal* because the dominion gives them a free pass.
If you think the second Great War is too short it’s worth noting that Halo reach starts July 24, 2552 And halo 3 ends December 11, 2552 5 halo games take place within this 5 month period (reach, halo 1 & 2, halo 3: ODST and halo 3)
God, that feels so wrong. Reach and CE feels like something that should take place close together, sure, but only because of the end-start cutscenes lining up exactly. CE and 2 should have a notable gap. 2 and ODST makes sense. 2 and 3 should also have a notable gap. The only ones with HUGE gaps i remember are Halo Wars to Reach, and Halo 3 to 4.
I can absolutely tell you what happend in 1628, the british parliament got their Petition of Right approved, from thereon our timelines differ. I tell you, the UED originates directly from the principles of the Commonwealth of England, wich formed in 1649 and never became a Kingdom again in the starcraft universe, but instead held onto their lord protector. To strengthen its principles, the UED abandoned the christian calendar and made 1628 its year of choice. For the UED 1628 is the year the Enlightenment started and therefore must be seen as the beginning of human common sense and a new age. Or so...
I have the biggest smile on my face, this was such an amazing quiz, I was laughing for so much of it, thank you both for making this, 100% looking forward to more.
The arguement also about the ghost not being a criminal is that theyre technically "non-entity" people since they dont "exist" so there is no person to tag the criminal record on
That was an incredible video. How....!??! I couldn't answer these types of questions about my own areas of expertise that quickly and those are topics I've literally studied for years.
So, the question about the Medic's VA, could it have been possible that BOTH did lines for the Medic? It's possible that the lines spoken by the Medic are from one person while the death scream is from another. I bring this up because if you were to look at the casting for Dawn of War 1 and its, you'll find the same name being the voice for multiple different units, like for example Scott McNeil voiced both Lord Bale and Sindri Myr in the original Dawn of War 1 game so when you hear these two lines. "But if you fail me in this..." "Yes, yes, then my suffering will be great, just be ready to move when I instruct" That's Scott McNeil talking to himself because he's voicing both characters.
What I expect happened was both recorded and only one was put in. But since both VAs are very insistent, we don’t have good primary sources to say for sure. Pretty sure the one we got is Tiffany Hayes though.
@@Subsourian Could be, though the other did mention that they specifically hear their own voice when the Medic dies right? So, it could be that maybe in a mix up, the death line from the other VA got used and was never fixed by Blizzard. It makes me remember when Zoey in L4D1 had two voice actors one for the retail version and one for the beta version and you could hear her beta VA speak in the retail version of the game if she called for the rescue vehicle, even when she was ported over to L4D2 you can still here her beta VA under the same conditions.
Grant: Asks the penultimate question. Me (pause): "Oh, it was kind of in the game. Something in the spirit of XT-something, right?" Subsourian: Calls all the numbers without a second delay. Me: "what"
Isn't the Medic the Terran infantry unit with the lowest criminality? Edit: Oh nvm you brought it up a few seconds later lol. Edit2: I wouldn't accept his point. Not all ghosts are recruited as a baby. Ideally they are, but they even had people (wranglers) to hunt down psionics for recruitment into the ghost program.
You know you’re in deep when the guy you’re quizzing is correcting the questions
Specially when the answer is just basically an arbitrary sequence of letters and numbers xD
You know Grant was sweating the questions the entire time when he has to add the disclaimer of "if he convinces me otherwise, he still gets the point".
Subs was so on another level that he even answered questions before they were made
@@ripedroxxHolyshit, I just got to the part where he did that. It was surreal lol
I used to do that in elementary school but the teachers just insisted I was wrong and the curriculum was right.
Subsourian instantly getting "remote planetoid XT39323," Grant thinking he's got him, and then Subsourian turning out to be right, is the perfect encapsulation of how hilariously one-sided this video is.
Huge thanks Grant for putting me on, this was a blast to do!
It turns out the Russet question wasn't even the scene I was thinking of, the one where Raynor's mom is cooking IS her making a salad with tubers which is what first came to mind. The Shiloh Russet appears in The Fightin SceeVees where Raynor's peeling one when he's denying his SCVs vacation leave. True lore facts! But I'll never live the Shiloh Russet down.
I will say on the wiki while I wrote a lot of the modern stuff, I basically inherited it from Hawki and PsiSeveredHead who are the loremasters who came before me. So credit to them for keeping it together in the old days since it's a wiki that's existed since the wikia/wikipedia split (fun fact StarCraft was one of the pages deemed too descriptive on Wikipedia and we were told to trim it down or scoot to a new wiki host, back before that was a common thing).
Big credit to MarKreations Studios who did like 90% of the VA hunting work to lead us to figure out some of the oddities of BW voice acting and setting the record straight. Whole reason we have that question!
The Stukov tattoo was actually partially a promise from Grant's character contest if he won! But also, I was planning on doing that anyway since I got a first level 100 Stukov with a friend in Heroes.
No youtube channel but I tend to do stuff more in text, so happy to answer any lore questions on the subreddit! And make sure to donate to TTG to subject Grant to some revenge trivia and keep our GOATed mapmakers making great content.
no youtube?
disagree, subscribed
Absolutely briliant! This was so fun to watch. GG!
Dude you nailed it, one of my favorite videos so far!
So what the fuck *IS* a debris field?
@@krullachief669 field of debris
"I literally run and write the wiki you're citing" - Subsourian
a canonical quote
Do not cite the wiki to me, Grant. I was there when it was written.
Ah you think the wiki is your ally? You merely adopted the wiki. I was born in it, molded by it.
@@cometasteroids7761 you mean "I gave birth to it, molded it."
@@shiro40404 what?
"You dare use my own wiki against me, Grant?"
Grant: *about to ask a question*
Subsourian: *Answers correctly before Grant can even finish the question and makes him rethink his life choices *
Grant : *Nervous Laugh *
And accidentally answers next two questions
The best part is when he throws a random data and it turns out it's the answer to the next question
"What happened in 1628?!"
Oh, easy. The Swedish flagship Vasa sank 20 minutes after leaving harbor on her maiden voyage because they were inept when making it.
Guess the UED was really really interested in that.
classic Dugalle moment
"Where'd you study shipwright, boy?"
Guess it is proof that like Stargate there are other advanced humans out in the universe, and that the United Earth Directorate conquered or took over Earth at some point.
We can only assume Earth had a cooler culture and better video games, so they rebranded to Earth. lol
Literally deep Lost Vikings lore, lmao
Its their foundation mythos
If you can make one out of rudely unloading tea, a sunk warship isn't even hard 😂
You know its bad when the premise is just "can I make this dude get things wrong"
Not only that, it's "oh no I'm trying to make the dude get things wrong and *failing* *miserably* "
Finally, a lore master who looks like one...
Well that beard is magnificent
All he is missing is a fancy hat and a robe of some sort.
I'm not kidding and I hope Subsourian sees this: The work he's doing is INCREDIBLY important. Broodwar came out just over 20 years ago and we don't know who voiced Stukov??? This type of information gathering and organizing is vastly underappreciated and I'm glad he's doing it. Because as we can see even Blizzard can't always be bothered.
Blizzard doesn't care about stuff like this at all... Sadly...
Without people like him, all this knowledge and trivia, that really makes a franchise great, would be basically lost.
Other units having panic quotes when they're under attacked
Medic: *"Oooh, better send some bodybags"* in the calmest voice ever
Yep I definitely see her more of a criminal than a ghost tbh
is a BDSM kink a crime?
@@corberus3119 If it involves dead bodies? Yeah, kinda.
"But the real question is, when he *was* a negative age baby, how many crimes did he commit?"
Brand new sentence right there
36:38 i totally expected him to take out a Zeratul and a Selendis figure and smash them into eachother
*Fucks you psionically *
Yeah, that could also work
I know they're both nerazim, so racially it's acceptable, but Zeratul is lifetimes older, weird.
They probably have orc-like birthing vats, but beautiful and mystical, with a couple high templar chanting.
Well we don't know the accepted age difference for the Protoss, might be totally normal for them.
Aaaand also I chose this pair because those two are the most likely male/female protoss figures someone has imo.
"You at home, you haven't gotten a single question right."
Oh but I did! I immediately thought of the Medic for "least crimes", stopped to consider the rest of the lineup, remembered at the back of my mind that Marauders were claimed to be either not criminals or just less criminal, AND had the thought that ghosts wouldn't count because their atrocities were government-sanctioned. I snatched up every facet of that question before unpausing and letting the conversation play out :D
Yep, that's my grand flex: I got ONE right. Just one. Subsourian is absolutely insane, and this was the perfect way to showcase his greatness. Loved every second of this one
Same, except I didn't consider the medic
I actually got 2 "right", the one about primal roaches because that one can be learned from playing HotS, and the aberration origin one because I remember subsourian discussing that one on discord.
I got Zagara's Aberrations and the Primal Roaches, which felt nice as a Zerg main! :D
I just thought to myself "aren't Ghosts kidnapped as innocent children?" before thinking of any other possible answer
My score is 8. Just books + in-game stuff is quite easy actually
You're telling me that the Agria Colonists infested and ruined 3 planets in that timeframe?
More like the Agria colonists were specifically used by Kerrigan in an attempt to destabilize the Dominion in hopes they would be taken in and basically infest every major population centre.
So Mengsk was right yet again!
3 planets in most likely as many months
Really bad luck
Super condensing events is a running problem in a lot of fiction really, stemming from authors not really thinking of how long things tend to take in real life, or not caring.
It actually tracks if you assume the outbreaks were carried between planets and not just that two planets were sperately infested. Its not likely a dormant carrier will remain dormant for long.
On the other hand it feels bizarre a colony as big as the one on outbreak could be constructed in that short a time
Protoss reproduce through a similar process of two templar archoning, they merge, the excess energy spawns a new protoss, and then they unmerge, exhausted.
archconing is esessentailly edging
This is the least cursed explanation i have heard....
Imagine in ladder, when an archon merges something like a zealot just spawns😭 would be wild
I always just answer orally, if I see this question. Let the other person be confused because I sure refuse to :D
Power uhh... uhh... uhh... uhhhoverwhelming!
@@SoyJuIia Man, if only we had thought about this in time for Legacy of the Meme lol
Subsourian's collection of Starcraft things is amazing!
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the best collection world wide. I am envious of the LEGO Battlecruiser and some of those art works.
Some are actual ones from "Obscure Korean stuff" OMG
"how much damage does a disruptor do" " I don't know, i don't play the game"
This isn't even like asking the author of a book about something -
this is like asking a encyclopedic historian with a doctorate from the universe of Starcraft.
I made a movie in high school and a year after I graduated I came back to visit and one of the kids said a line and winked at me. I literally had no idea what he was referring to but it was my movie. Fans often know a work better than the author.
I want to hear about all the crimes baby Grant did
He's like the anti-criminal, he's won entire wars without a casualty on both sides.
he does deathless to atone for his crimes, but he can never save enough furbolgs to make up for the number of people whos lives ended with that rattle
To be fair, he could be making every bit of this up and I wouldn’t be able to tell.
it's true
I love that Subsourian is so good, he needs his own tier of quiz. I'm excited for this one, I'm making popcorn and grabbing a drink to properly watch
This is like watching someone explaining meaning of a book to the person who wrote the fucking book
@@rosey_is_a_girl I mean it literally is in some cases, as is said in the video, subsourian wrote like the majority if the wiki, and that's about as close to the book as you'd get I think lmao
Subsourian is the man. He really needs his own youtube channel. This may just end up the highlight of GGG's summer blowout
EDIT: it absolutely was, honestly this was mesmerizing and I just wish there were more questions, or that they delved deeper into obscure trivia so Subsourian could cite it at us. I WANT to know the canonical distinctions in UED tech that they actually managed to haul all the way from Earth.
34:31 I beat ya too it years ago telling Subsorian about this Grant LMAO, I'm the friend he mentions. I remember emailing Jason Hayes and he claimed his wife did the Medic, and I asked Glynnis again and she was like "Nuh uh. that was me" so we STILL DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE DID IT!!! Also Glynnis says she RECORDED FOR THE MEDIC IN STARCRAFT 2, but was replaced when they replaced her as Kerrigan! So we really have no idea!!
it seems entirely possible that they both recorded for it but they only ended up using one of them.
@@hannahlewis7910 Most likely they did, but it seems so improbable that they voiced it so similarly that they both can listen to it and say "that's me."
At this point I will also need a certificate that Glynnis and Hayes weren't married from the whole duration of the project
I really appreciate Grant trying (and succeeding to any other person) to make impossible questions that weren't just "did you memorize this background character's name? It's only mentioned one time ever"
Shout out to Subsourian for having a brain the size of a leviathan
The real amazing part is that Grant literally did go "did you memorize this background character's name" with Bralik, and Subsourian still knew it! The number of people who even know that guy has a name probably doesn't even reach the triple digits.
"Except they are being ordered by the government to do it so it is technically not a crime"
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct. Something is only technically a crime if the government deems it to be so, anything else literally doesn't matter. lol
Kinda like that Australian solider who we know for a fact murdered a bunch of people in Afghanistan/Iraq and was given medals for it, and the whistleblower who exposed it -got life in prison.- *edit he got 5 years 8 months last May actually, it could have potentially been life though.
arguably the crime is based on where you commit the crime, not where you are tried for the crime. Its why countries still call people who extradite away criminals, because they literally are at least accused of committing a crime.
(and also, probably more relevantly, why so many chinese companies can make obvious fake knockoffs of things, if they were in the US, which if we're using this analogy to mean ghosts, they would be, they would be crimed up, but since they live somewhere else no crimes are being committed)
Who was the person who murdered people and who was the guy imprisoned? I'd like to learn more please.
@@TheDeadAwsome Don't remember the soldiers name, whistleblower was David Mcbride though.
Despite Australia having whistleblower protection laws they still went out of their way to get him on a technicality Al Capone style, it was quite fucked up.
Which is also why you can't be a criminal if you destroy the country you committed crimes in.
can we discuss subsorians beard tho. truly impressive, you know all the lore is in there
New protoss come from beard mitosis.
Lore is stored in the beard
It cost him his front hair line though
@@Mastercheap It didn't cost him, the hair simply migrated.
@@Mastercheapgreat power comes at a great price
19:30 thats some great "well acsually" right there. Double points for for getting the next one by accident
Grant being baffled about how little actual time passed in universe for WoL and HotS is about how baffled I was how the Halo trilogy was only a few months or so.
Also the reaction to the final answer just gave me a good laugh.
Honestly Protoss reproduction could be based around their Psionic abilities, maybe they just combine some of their powers together and coalesce it. A physical body just kind of forms.
Given the Protoss themselves sustain themselves via absorbing energy rather than food maybe they also reproduce by fragmenting a part of themselves to manifest what are essentially offspring.
Halo at least has several games taking place specifically WHILE others are taking place. With Starcraft all the campaigns and missions are explicitly one after the other, which hits way harder when Blizz then say "Yeah it all took like 2 hours, the speedrun is canon"
I feel like the difference with Halo is also the genre. Like, things like the fall of Reach happen in real time, and it's not too infeasible that only little time passes between games. But for starcraft 2, with the different situations and everything, like the dominion war against the zerg in the background we only see via news articles, it feels like the missions alone take place months apart, while you also can't really take the in game actions and time at face value
protossl didn't discover their psionic talents for thousands of years, they'd have to reproduce the old fashioned way. that's like saying humans use electricity to reproduce. we'd have gone extinct 200,000 years ago
Thats odd bc I am playing through the trilogy rn for the first time(never owned an Xbox, was a Nintendo and eventually Sony kid) and right away with halo 2 it seemed to be clear you'd gotten back to earth just long enough to get your armor repaired and do a photo op, when the covenant appear. Like those games are very fast paced
@@OldSpaghettifactory89 this is also including the time gap between halo CE and Halo 2, plus also the slipspace jump from earth to Delta halo took some time to achieve, it wasn’t a same day event.
It’s why in lore when going into Slipspace crew members go into cryostasis, to preserve supplies and sanity during the trip.
"You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind."
The OG FAFO
It's more or less a quote from Tombstone.
In 1628 Dutch admiral Piet Hein captures the Spanish treasure fleet in the Battle in the Bay of Matanzas
So despite looking Russian, we can assume the Dutch founded the UED
UED is have, like, English and Russian as official languages as far as i (barely) remember? So like USA and USSR cast their animosity aside and united or something
I wish subsourian had a UA-cam channel.
I need to hear this guy talk about zerg evolution for 24 hours.
36:00 absolutely the greatest moment of the quiz, my man corrects Grant on a frigging bar code answer
I got a few questions right actually:
- Jim Raynor's birth planet
- The origin of the Aberration
- The origin of the Roach
- Hank Harnak with his flamethrower
35:15
Read the chat, the comments there got me rolling
Speacially Dat_Babbage's comment
Grant: "oh this will be hard"
Subsourian : "oh we actually interviewed the husband of one them "
That shit had me in tears
Chat is always amazing
Wow, this guy can really, as you humans say, "throw down with the best of them".
Stukov just came to our planet to tell his story, so he voiced himself.
That’s it, make the lore master do a trivia on StarCraft: meme edition
Not even the lore master will understand why Karax has an extreme fascination with solarite
I'm very good friends with Synergy, believe me I also know the secrets of Lasarra being made of pure solarite. :P
“Ghosts get kidnapped at an early age”
So ghosts are basically Halo Spartans?
Sorta, less muscle and bone enhancements but more mental and psychic enhancements
Yes, but they also have psychic powers.
Or Jedi younglings.
That trope was a cliché long before Halo was a gleam in the of the developers.
Yeah
I need this guy to proofread any StarCraft screenplay I ever submit to Blizzard lmao (not that I’ll ever finish anything XD)
I need to read your screenplays. O-o
They sound like incredible fun! This community never ceases to amaze.
"You at home, you haven't gotten a single question right."
yeah, but he got it all right 🤯
A proper loremaster beard, that's how you know he is legit
35:32 "They wanted it to be authentic so they casted someone that was -2 months old" -Pulvermorgan
Oh wow. Watching Subsourian 'answer' the questions (and the sometimes the next one too) was a real blast. I didnt know a trivia show can be so fun in a way that doesn't involve participants giving stupid answers :P
WOW! Thanks, Grant. Couldn't ask for a better birthday present
You can listen to Abathur complaining about the primals stealing his designs in the campaign if you speak to him on the leviathan.
So I did get one right >:)
EYYYY, I GOT ONE
The Mercenary Chief who contracts with Raynor specifically says that he's giving him first pick because the bartender makes a great Mai Tai!
This was absolutely ridiculous and amazing to watch, ROFL!!! 😂😂😂. Answering questions before they are even asked, snap reply with a serial code of a planet name, and even answering a "your mom" joke question!
This guy is straight up goated and I’m not even halfway through the vid yet. Wow.
This is like Giga Chad casually entering to the drive test
The way Grant's face lit up when he got Subsorian with the Russet quiz, and how it turned apple red too...
100% a "All of that for a drop of blood" moment, love it :)
Protoss are lizards who use a lot of water metaphors. Pond hatcheries makes the most sense.
Which means Blizzard will probably come up with something bonkers, like planting a Protoss skull causes a dozen fully grown Protoss to sprout.
Actually in 1628 "Dutch admiral Piet Hein captures the Spanish treasure fleet in the Battle in the Bay of Matanzas.", so the UED are just Spanish.
Wouldn't they be Dutch instead?
@@unaiestanconapelaez2526 Why would you start a calendar from the date where you just stole some stuff? But getting beaten by swamp germans while you are one of the biggest empires sounds like a traumatic enough event to restart the calendar.
@@ForTheJerusalem lol 'swamp germans'
The question about who voices the medic, if both of them insist they voiced it then its quite likely that they both did a recording session so they both remember needing to do that but nobody knows for certain who actually got their recordings put in the actual game.
I know it's not possible to do endless challenge videos of starcraft, and i gotta say, this was a perfect segue of SC2 content. I am absolutely loving the direction this channel keeps moving in. Bringing in other big names in the scene of stacraft, not just in terms of pro gamers is such a cool thing to do, and this video was an absolute blast to watch, even though i managed to answer 0 questions correctly.
This was so fun and awesome, and I love seeing Subsourian's Starcraft shrine in detail at the end :) I'm jealous of all that cool stuff!
Favourite mission for me is for sure Colonist 2: Outbreak - love the mix of hunkering down and surviving, and the opposite, where you need to hunt for targets while the sun is up
I would absolutly LOVE a channel FULL of Subsourian rants but also just well thought out lore videos. The little videos in the meme campaign were AMAZING. PLEASE Subsourian PLEASE!!
Enemy Within is great. Niadra is amazing. And I still can't get over how Kerrigan is enough of a bad mother to just abandon her.
I've never before seen somebody on a quiz show get a question "wrong" in such a way that they got 2 questions right
Blizzard has really weird chronology. For example in Warcraft Orcs invaded Azeroth only 86 years ago that's not much time
Well that has to be a short time, since many of the heroes of the Horde were born on Draenor.
This is incorrect. There was a dev post in the story forums ~2 years ago that went into the timeline because of the SL --> DF timeskip, and it stated that DF starts 40 years after the Dark Portal opened. For reference, TBC was in year 26, MoP was in year 30, and SL started in year 35.
I always figured the reason the Dominion finds them with the Umojans is because of the ruckus Kerrigan causes during her little temper tantrum. Given the Dominion shows up like immediately after that mission, I just assumed they must’ve put out a distress signal or some comms got intercepted during the panic.
The question of how protoss reproduce reminds me of reading fan discussions on the topic all the way back in the early 00s. At this point I don't ever want them to answer it.
There's something oddly satisfying about watching someone who is a master of their craft.
I'm with subsorian on the ghost thing only because of the technicality that if you commit a crime (like assassination, murder, espionage, etc.) but the government says that you're actually exempt from doing crimes (like the dominion would say about any of their psi-operatives) you're technically not a criminal.
Meanwhile a medic doesn't get any of that leniency and the medivac has lore about a medic pilot murdering a bunch of marines for calling her dropship a healbus and that's one more criminal crime on record than any ghosts 👍
See, grant you made a semantics error where you called them a *criminal* rather than a *commiter of crimes*. Ghosts commit war crimes and crimes against humanity all the time, but they're almost never branded as a *criminal* because the dominion gives them a free pass.
If you think the second Great War is too short it’s worth noting that
Halo reach starts July 24, 2552
And halo 3 ends December 11, 2552
5 halo games take place within this 5 month period (reach, halo 1 & 2, halo 3: ODST and halo 3)
God, that feels so wrong. Reach and CE feels like something that should take place close together, sure, but only because of the end-start cutscenes lining up exactly. CE and 2 should have a notable gap. 2 and ODST makes sense. 2 and 3 should also have a notable gap. The only ones with HUGE gaps i remember are Halo Wars to Reach, and Halo 3 to 4.
I can absolutely tell you what happend in 1628, the british parliament got their Petition of Right approved, from thereon our timelines differ. I tell you, the UED originates directly from the principles of the Commonwealth of England, wich formed in 1649 and never became a Kingdom again in the starcraft universe, but instead held onto their lord protector. To strengthen its principles, the UED abandoned the christian calendar and made 1628 its year of choice. For the UED 1628 is the year the Enlightenment started and therefore must be seen as the beginning of human common sense and a new age.
Or so...
Apart from deep starcraft lore knowledge and wizardry, he writes "I can prepare noodles and make lego battlecruisers" on his résumé.
"Do not cite the deep lore to me. I was there when it was written."
4:30 yeah ghosts being brainwashed gives them a lot of leeway when it comes to crime. Also wartime law
I love so much all you do for this community grant. You somehow keep reminding me why this is favorite game franchise, why I love StarCraft so much.
Orcawarrior will rise again from that defeat.
First time I heard about the fundraiser. That's actually crazy. You are an amazing figurehead for the community, Grant.
That was hilarious. He came to a quizz show and the host was the one who lost.
The medic has an ability that permanently blinds people. I'm pretty sure that's also a war crime.
An absolute masterpiece of a video. I would watch a hundred more of these.
Also your laugh is infectious. :D
This is my favorite video in a long time.
I love the lore, the trivia, and also just the friendly happy vibes. :-D
3:19 Can't commit crimes when you are a baby? Tell that to Maggie Simpson who got away with attempted murder :P
if we ever get a starcraft movie or TV show we know Subsourian's going to have to be the loremaster for the show
Happy that there’s still very passionate people about StarCraft 💜💜💜
This was a fun watch! You need to bring him back for more quiz! He is the true Loremaster
I have the biggest smile on my face, this was such an amazing quiz, I was laughing for so much of it, thank you both for making this, 100% looking forward to more.
The arguement also about the ghost not being a criminal is that theyre technically "non-entity" people since they dont "exist" so there is no person to tag the criminal record on
Him answering the next question with just a fun fact was insane 💀
The Protoss reproduction thing is even weirder when you remember Lasarra has a navel and Zeratul has nipples
Having to give back a point for a typo is hilarious 😂
That was an incredible video. How....!??! I couldn't answer these types of questions about my own areas of expertise that quickly and those are topics I've literally studied for years.
Grant's dead expression at the 3rd question(Bennet/hawler) as Subsourian was answering had me laughing.
So, the question about the Medic's VA, could it have been possible that BOTH did lines for the Medic? It's possible that the lines spoken by the Medic are from one person while the death scream is from another.
I bring this up because if you were to look at the casting for Dawn of War 1 and its, you'll find the same name being the voice for multiple different units, like for example Scott McNeil voiced both Lord Bale and Sindri Myr in the original Dawn of War 1 game so when you hear these two lines.
"But if you fail me in this..."
"Yes, yes, then my suffering will be great, just be ready to move when I instruct"
That's Scott McNeil talking to himself because he's voicing both characters.
What I expect happened was both recorded and only one was put in. But since both VAs are very insistent, we don’t have good primary sources to say for sure. Pretty sure the one we got is Tiffany Hayes though.
@@Subsourian Could be, though the other did mention that they specifically hear their own voice when the Medic dies right? So, it could be that maybe in a mix up, the death line from the other VA got used and was never fixed by Blizzard. It makes me remember when Zoey in L4D1 had two voice actors one for the retail version and one for the beta version and you could hear her beta VA speak in the retail version of the game if she called for the rescue vehicle, even when she was ported over to L4D2 you can still here her beta VA under the same conditions.
Watching this makes me want to spend a day just chatting with Subsourian !
43:30 - Rings of Liberty
Grant: Asks the penultimate question.
Me (pause): "Oh, it was kind of in the game. Something in the spirit of XT-something, right?"
Subsourian: Calls all the numbers without a second delay.
Me: "what"
I love that he said Omega was his favorite "last mission". I freaking love Omega.
I just want to see this man go on all his mad rants about the lore
What a delightfully charming quizzing session! Thank you guys for doing this
14:00 thet do reference this slightly with COOP commanders as Zagara gets an upgrade that makes Aberrations spawn banelings upon death
"Subs rants for 40 minutes" xD awesome quiz :D
I got the medic right :D
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Isn't the Medic the Terran infantry unit with the lowest criminality?
Edit: Oh nvm you brought it up a few seconds later lol.
Edit2: I wouldn't accept his point. Not all ghosts are recruited as a baby. Ideally they are, but they even had people (wranglers) to hunt down psionics for recruitment into the ghost program.
5:19 into the video, subscoreian win first argument