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I like that Rose connects with the staff on the ship, she is from a service industry herself so I totally understand they feel most familiar. It's what works well for her character, she is so human it balances out all the crazy alien action.
What surprised me at the time was how people thought it was boring how she connected with service staff. They commented, "Yeah, we get it. She's good to her inferiors." No, she felt an affinity for people in service. You, the complainer (back in the day) seem to think service workers are inferior to you. Gross.
When the Doctor reveals in this episode that he is the last of the Time-Lords and there was a war, that was a big reveal to old Dr. Who fans. So old Who fans knew who he was and where he was from, but this whole "last of his kind" was brand new even to us.
Yeah, in the old series, the Time Lords and Gallifrey were still around. They were both an ally and adversary at times; occasionally asking for his help or chastising him for his odd behavior. The new series starting off this way was a big surprise.
Yes and one thing about the 9th doctor is he is still fresh from the time war, and suffering a bit of PTSD and survivors guilt. Eccleston plays it brilliantly too.
The thing with Eccleston is he defined the role, so new Whovians at the time only had him to compare to. Also, David Tennant was just phenomenal. During Eccleston's tenure, he was very well liked, and the chemistry between him and Rose is a huge reason the series succeeded.
I also think there's an element of really preferring/loving the Doctor in place when a person starts watching it. My first was Eccleston and no matter how great the others undeniably are, he'll always be my favorite because of that, and it feels like others have a similar opinion for whichever actor was their first iteration.
Every time you get a new doctor, it takes a few episodes for you to get over the feeling of betrayal. Then you start to think, okay this one's not so bad.. And then halfway through the season you're convinced that THIS doctor is actually your favorite, not the last one! It's a cycle.
Cassandra (the bitchy trampoline) was voiced by Zoe Wanamaker. You'd probably know her best from Harry Potter. She played Madam Hooch, the professor teaching the younger students how to fly on their broomsticks in the first film.
She's American, her dad was the driving force behind the Shakespeare Globe theatre in London. It was built in 1599 at Southwark, close to the south bank of the Thames, A modern reconstruction of the Globe, named "Shakespeare's Globe", opened in 1997 approximately 750 feet (230 m) from the site of the original theatre. Is there a difference between theatre and theater? Whether you use the spelling theatre or theater will depend on where you hail from. In American English, the spelling is theater; in Britain and the rest of the English-speaking world, theatre is used. What's the difference between grey and gray? Gray and grey are both common spellings of the colour between black and white. Gray is more frequent in American English, whereas grey is more common in British English. The varying usage of both grey and gray extends to specialized terms such as animal species (gray/grey whale) and scientific terms (gray/grey matter).
Fun Fact 1; The name TARDIS was an improvisational name give by actress that played the ordinal Doctor's granddaughter that stuck. Fun Fact 2; Dials & levers - the original actor William Hartnell that played The Doctor asked what each control did and when he was told they didn't have any real function he told the director that they needed a function so the the door control would always be the door controller or the audience would notice that he was using different controls & it would break the realism so once he used a control for a function it was recorded so that controller would always be used for the same function.
They frequently used the same lever/switch for different purposes. Not sure where you got that info. Go look at the 4th Doctor and you’ll see they used the big lever with the red ball on it for multiple uses before they decided it was officially the door lever.
@@Parallax-3D I was referring to the William Hartnell actor only, I believe he wanted them labeled because he knew he was starting to suffer from dementia & couldn't remember what he used last time. Today however they don't pay that much attention to things like that & it is only when fans call them out that they try to assign functions to things.
"Everything has its time and everything dies" is such a great moment for me, because it shows that the Doctor is not the type of hero to let unrepentant villains evade consequences. Cassandra was gleefully declaring that she'd avoid legal punishment, and showing zero remorse for the people she'd just killed. If she'd showed even an ounce of conscience or regret, then maybe the Doctor would've showed her mercy.
But if that was actually his reason for not saving her, wouldn't it have made more sense for him to say something like "people who don't respect life aren't worth saving" rather than "everything has its time and everything dies"? The latter sounds more like the line of a character who wouldn't save any person they think has lived longer than their "natural" life span (which sounds kind of selfish coming from an immortal).
@@adamdavis1648 Well... it's not immortal, and is raging and angry, he felt a deep connection with ladytree, he felt less lonely for a moment... and she died...
@@adamdavis1648 From my point of view, in that moment he was merely seeking vengeance. And for my knowledge the Doctor is not immortal, he die. Many times... (:P) He regenerates, carrying the same memories, but not the same person, and eventually his regeneration could end.
@@WalterLoggetti Spoilers Well, he had just come out of the time war. Of course he was not really in a mind state to be how the latter iterations and the previous ones behaved. Everything has its time to die, and to be fair when he does reach his end, he accepts it. Grumbling but he does.
Christopher Eccleston was a brilliant Doctor - without him the series would not have taken off the way it did in 2005. People tend to sort of forget about him because he only did one season, and then the show continued to rise in popularity over the next few years, so lots of people jumped on board after he'd gone.
"I'm not supposed to show them in public." Angela: "Why not; they're dope?" Yeah, so are boobs. So, I assume it's a similar thing for the tree species.
To be fair, if you look at it logically, stripped from our cultural context, the idea that you shouldn't show breasts or really any part of our bodies is kind of ridiculous
@@peterlewis2178 I totally agree! For the most part (yes, there are exceptions) women have all the same parts as other women, as men do with men. We show SOME body parts, but why are they okay and others not? Well, in my opinion, it's because the higher ups wanted to control people, and to do that, they had to find something everyone shared. Essentially, all humans, eat, breathe and have sex and die. You can't use breathing against anyone, but you can tell them what they should and shouldn't eat (and many religions do) and as sex is needed to breed, it's the perfect mechanism. So make it a bad thing except in certain circumstances. And since some of the parts of the body are included in sex, they fall under the same umbrella. It's ridiculous, really. Of course, most religions control what people think about death as well.💙
People may have posted this, but as an old school Doctor Who fan... this news was pretty shocking - the Doctor's home world and people were fine and dandy where we left off in old Doctor Who... so that was shocking news for us when he told us this had happened!
This episode highlights a unique part of the show as a whole. You had the people like you who knows little to nothing about the Doctor's history finding out about it along the way, but you also had the people who had watched Classic Who and knew who he was before the war. When he's telling Rose about it at the end really hits differently depending on which group you're in.
During the 90's, Billie Piper (the actress who plays Rose) was a pop star. She initially gained recognition as a singer after releasing her debut single "Because We Want To" at age 15, which made her the youngest female singer to enter the UK Singles Chart at number one; her follow-up single "Girlfriend" also entered at number one. In 1998, Piper released her debut studio album, Honey to the B, which was certified platinum by the British Phonographic Industry. Her second studio album, Walk of Life, was released in 2000 and spawned her third number-one single, "Day & Night". In 2003, Piper announced that she had ended her music career to focus on acting.
@@zachariousmccool5768 Her steamy series after Doctor who was 'Secret Diary of a call girl', i've got the box set but i've never seen it, supposed to be very good.
@@DaDunge he occasionally introduces them as his assistant when talking tp guest characters, but that's usually to avoid dealing with pointless questions. Companion isn't really even used that often in the show, but producers and audiences adopted it as the official term.
Eccleston not being many peoples’ favorite isn’t an indictment on him, it’s just a statement on how great the next three Doctors are all in their own unique ways.
Bit of trivia, but RTD actually blew a lot of the budget on making this episode; he didn’t really know how to manage a Sci-Fi project and underestimated how much the BBC could give him for these costumes and sets. Fortunately he learned well and later seasons are better handled therein. A detail I really appreciate is how much the Doctor and Rose - the latter a working class Brit - really value the lives of everyone far more; Rose being gracious to Raffalo who is just staff is commented on. Most of the people on the station are upper-crust and just spent a lot of money to watch the spectacle of a planet being destroyed by its own star; Jabe being descended from Earth’s trees is the exception, and her sympathy for the Doctor being the last of his race emphasises this genuine connection (and makes her sacrifice to save everyone they can all the sadder)… Cassandra is the last “pure” human, and she’s using this whole thing and killing people for her own benefit; proving how she’s so callous she’ll sacrifice her physical and metaphorical humanity to stay alive, whereas the Doctor is genuinely caring for the people who died horribly…
RTD really perfected the art of the bottle episode, much thanks to this episode. With that we got both the best and the worst rated episodes in the show's history, classic and new.
some non-spoiler context: in the original show (1960s through 80s), to which this is a sequel, the Doctor was comparatively more open about where he was from, and his homeworld and people were alive. He was still wandering around with stray humans helping people but more just because he could and wanted to. And he certainly was not nearly as likely to kill someone in cold blood the way he did Cassandra. So, for those who came into this show knowing the previous one, this episode both introduces mysteries (what exactly happened in between the two shows) and clarifies some things (why is he so sad and not quite as kind as he once was). Good deal of season 1 is kinda him finding himself again after what happened.
This was his regeneration to try and process his PTSD which is very apparent in a few episodes. After Eccleston The Doctor becomes "A man who regrets and A man who forgets."
That's interesting, because I've watched Diamanda Hagan's classic Who guides and she makes the case that The Doctor is actually much more ruthless and kills a lot in Classic Who.
@@adamdavis1648 at the very start? Sure, dude gave zero shits. And he certainly stayed ruthless at times (frequently even) after that, but Eccleston is still distinctly harsher than where we left him pre time skip at first.
If she hasn't seen it, then don't talk about it. She doesn't know if things WILL be revealed or not, if things were done the same way, or moved along another path, or if there's ANY correlation to the past at all, so you shouldn't be discussing it ... Let her find out these things on her own ... that's a PART of the mystery/discovery that is revealed in the WATCHING of the show.
Just to be precise, "Doctor Who" premiered on November 23rd, 1963, at 5:25pm. It was delayed for reports about the assassination which happened the day before, November 22nd. I'd really recommend watching episode 1 from 1963 as a one-off - there's so much set up in that episode, "An Unearthly Child", which is still being riffed on and expanded sixty years later.
The broadcast started less than 2 minutes late, which was not at all uncommon for late afternoon on a Saturday. Even today it's hardly surprising if shows start a minute or so late. The story of it being "delayed" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It was scheduled for 5:15pm, and actually started at 5:16pm (plus a few seconds).
I love Eccleston and he is a favorite of mine because of reasons that will show in future episodes. I think he just gets overshadowed by a couple of the other Doctors. Hard to have just 1 favorite.
He's super underrated because of his short run. So while it's hard to pick a favorite, I'll always push a little harder for Eccleston appreciation because he doesn't get what he deserves.
It’s the smile; Chris has the most warm kind of authenticity when he smiles, precisely because it’s so imperfect yet genuine… It’s such a shame how bad working conditions were and how he and Russel T. Davies had their falling out; the fact the BBC apparently blacklisted Eccleston and RTD didn’t stand up for him (or a lot of the crew) is really sad. I wonder if he’d ever forgive Russel, but it’s clear it would take a *lot* of proof for that to be possible. I just hope RTD is a better creative head nowadays…
13:45 interestingly her mom mentions the lottery during the call, suggesting from her perspective, it was still the morning before Rose met the Doctor, since she was initially going down to the basement to collect funds for a lottery pool.
I'll be the one calling him "The Traumatized Doctor". Future episodes will demonstrate, though even this one shows how done he is with those who take lives.
Remember Clive in the first episode? Wherever the Doctor goes, death follows. Doesnt mean he causes the deaths, he saves as many as he can but usually cant save them all. Keep watching
and sometimes messing things up :D such as in "if you had not chosen this place on a whim, would anyone here have died?" - one of my favourite moments of Modern Who for sure
7:42: you can genuinely see why the Doctor travels here. He’s getting to see and enjoy a new culture that’s he’s never witnessed before. That’s why he does it - to see and enjoy new stuff.
My favorite Doctor is Tom Baker (Fourth Doctor) because he was the one I was exposed to growing up, watching old episodes in the evening on our local PBS affiliate. Very long tenure as the Doctor.
Yep, same here. I think most people define the show by who their "their first Doctor" was, and that introduction sets their baseline for them as to what "The Doctor" should be going forward.
i came to the doctor when Mccoy was on the helm, the first doctor to be seen here in germany... it came late nights and i had to watch it secretly because of school next day...
Eccleston isn't my favorite Doctor, but I still adore him! I admit I feel a little rage when I hear people say they skip his season. He's a wonderful Doctor!
This was the episode that got me hooked on modern Who about 10 years ago. It struck me as unusual for a TV show that a new side character - not the show's main protagonist - was the hero willing to make the big sacrifice (in this case Jade the tree-like lady). The fact that the Doctor looks for the good in people and connects with those who are kind is - for me - probably the main attraction to this franchise.
This was my first dw encounter and I remember it got me hooked. Totally forgot how well crafted it was though. Thank you for bringing me back to this episode again. It’s such a good blend of drama, comedy, a bit of mystery and thriller. But what makes it special to me is that silly yet imaginative world building combined with deep melancholy existential contemplation. Eccleston was my favorite for a very long time until I got to Capaldi. 😁
Eccleston is my favourite Doctor (though Tennant is very very close behind). Eccleston was the Doctor when I started this show in 2005 and he instantly captivated me. He's got this goofiness and charm to him while also having a serious side, and you get to see a bit of both in this episode. His speech in this one about humans never imagining that we could survive so far into the future because of all the threats in our world, and later the moment he tells Rose about the war that destroyed his home planet... so much solemn gravitas. I think the reason he took Rose to see the Earth die was because he needed someone with him who could understand his pain. This is a fun one, showing off the weird and wild ways this show can go. Wacky-looking aliens (and some pretty great costuming/practical effects work) galore! Edit: Cassandra is voiced by Zoë Wanamaker - you might know her as the quidditch teacher Madam Hooch from the Harry Potter films.
@@Metzwerg74 I know! That's why I said ssh, spoilers! I'd try and stick to the episode and The Doctor at hand as far as this comment section goes. Don't want to spoil anything for them.
For people not from the U.K. Billie Piper had a brief pop career as a teen pop star, her first single came out at the same time as "Hit me baby one more time" which makes the inclusion of a Brittany Spiers song here feel like a reference.
Yeah, at the time the new series was being rumored, the concept of Billie Piper (known for music and tabloid hijinks at the time) being a Doctor Who companion was a source of amusement that made people say, "Noooo. That can't be what they're doing." It would be the equivalent of casting Justin Bieber as The Doctor.
My favorite fact about this episode is when The Doctor takes Rose back to Earth at the end none of the people there are extras, they went out and filmed Billie Piper and Christopher Ecclestone acting against a backdrop of real people
She's American, her dad was the driving force behind the Shakespeare Globe theatre in London. It was built in 1599 at Southwark, close to the south bank of the Thames, A modern reconstruction of the Globe, named "Shakespeare's Globe", opened in 1997 approximately 750 feet (230 m) from the site of the original theatre. Is there a difference between theatre and theater? Whether you use the spelling theatre or theater will depend on where you hail from. In American English, the spelling is theater; in Britain and the rest of the English-speaking world, theatre is used. What's the difference between grey and gray? Gray and grey are both common spellings of the colour between black and white. Gray is more frequent in American English, whereas grey is more common in British English. The varying usage of both grey and gray extends to specialized terms such as animal species (gray/grey whale) and scientific terms (gray/grey matter).
@@barriehull7076 Just a difference of spelling. Her dad was forced to flee the US as he'd been targeted by the FBI during McCarthy's red scare and Hollywood's blacklisting. She was allowed to see a redacted copy of his FBI file for her episode of Who Do You Think You Are.
Some of the reasons Eccleston isn't as many people's favourite as other Doctors is most of the viewership of his time were older fans who already had favourites. By the time newer fans developed, the very popular David Tennant was in the role.
That's a very good point, actually. I think Eccleston was also damaged for a long time by misinformation about him and his attitude towards the show. I used to see fans making all sorts of assertions about him, as if things they'd made up inside their head were facts.
I'm late to this series from you, but I just wanted to chime in to say that Nine IS my favorite Doctor! That doesn't mean I don't enjoy those coming later, but I loved Nine SO SO much. I'm loving that you're catching up on this series!
The amusing thing about that last scene with Mickey in the previous episode is that it is a reverse take on the usual fantasy Frank Frazetta /Boris Vallejo type barbarian paintings that were the usual fare on book covers. The female clinging to the thigh of the male sword swinging protagonist that is protecting her from the evil monster. This time, it is the male - Mickey - who is doing the cowering and clinging to Hero Rose.
I always thought the early Mickey storyline was a little off . Why in hell would Rose be attracted to this wimp .? She could do so much better . Those who have seen future episodes know how things turn out , no spoilers
@@jamesripley6712I assumed their relationship was something that started when they were both in school and, like other aspects of Rose's life before meeting the Doctor, just kept on going due to sheer inertia.
the pumping you referred to during the doctors piloting the tardis is because the controls are ramshackle and ad hock put together as the original doctor (a human) built the tardis from junk in a scrap yard, but over the the years lore was changed and now we see an alien doctor that had 13 lives and a tardis he stole...
?? The original Doctor was never human - unless you mean the original idea for the show? The Unearthly Child, the first episode back in 1963 clearly shows the Doctor as an alien, and the police box as a disguise (a useful disguise in the 1960s as the police boxes were still ubiquitous in the UK at the time). The TARDIS was first seen in a junkyard, but it wasn't built there.
The Last Human was voiced by Zoe Wanamaker who has done a lot of British TV and theatre, film-wise she's probably best known as Madame Hooch in the first Harry Potter film
Peter Capaldi is my favorite Doctor. He is the 12th Doctor & is just a genius actor Tennant is a close second but Peter just HAS it. He also wrote to the BBC as a kid asking to be head of the Doctor Who official fanclub which is just the most precious thing ever.
and cappaldi, had the most amazing monologues... in ALL the series... i still like ecclestone more, as cappaldis doctor, suffered from having the "less good" storyline writing..
@@Metzwerg74 See I disagree. I see this complaint often and I agree the episode story's weren't the best ever, but the character work done in season 8-10 is the best the show ever had imo
20:30 The voice of Cassandra O'Brien is the same actress that played Madame Hooch in the Harry Potter movies. There's actually a lot of actors who do both. In fact, Harry Melling (Dudley Dursley) is Patrick Troughton's (The 2nd Doctor's) grandson.
David Tennant was both the 10th doctor and Barty Crouch Jr. Micheal Gambon played Dumbledore and Kazran Sardick in a Christmas Special Helen McCrory was Narcissa and Rosanna Calvierri. Bill Nighy played Rufus Scrimgeour and guest-starred as Dr. Black in the Vincent Van Gogh episode Toby Jones voiced Dobby and played the Dream Lord Imelda Staunton played Umbridge and also did some interface voice work for Who Mark Williams was Arthur Weasley and Brian Williams David Bradley (Filch) was also a villain named Solomon in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship John Hurt who played Ollivander is the War Doctor Roger Lloyd Pack (Barty Crouch Sr.) was John Lumic Adrian Rawlins who appeared as James Potter was a character named Dr.Ryder in the one of the Ood episodes Shirley Henderson was Moaning Myrtle and Ursula Blake from the infamous Live and Monsters John Cleese from Monty Python played Nearly Headless Nick in Harry Potter and was also a cameo in a 1979 episode of who Warwick Davis played Griphook and Filius Flitwick played a character named Porridge in Series 7 Jeff Rawle (Amos Diggory) showed up a few times in classic Who as Plantagenet Elizabeth Spriggs who was the Fat Lady played a cannibal named Tabby in a couple episodes of Who in the 80s The are likely more. These are just the ones I know of.
Eccleston was so amazing. Every rewatch I fall in love with his Doctor again and wish he had stayed longer. But tbf as soon as Tennant gets going it's like oh yeah it was just meant to be
Without revealing more you'll find out later -- the bit where Jabe talks about where the Doctor's from and says she's sorry... It must've been SO INTERESTING for older fans to watch at the time. Because they WOULD know where the Doctor is from. But the actual war and him being "last of the time lords" was an invention of this new show. (Which I think is obvious, given the time they spend on it here.) And it definitely changed the dynamic and the character of the Doctor, going from him being [a person from this planet], to being the last survivor. Eventually it would be fun to see you react to some select episodes from Classic Who. Like maybe one or two stories from each Doctor, to get a feel for them. But definitely not until you've watched a few seasons of this, so you have more of a grasp on the worldbuilding. Personally I'd say watch at least season 3 first. (Obviously nothing from Classic Who can really "spoil" New Who once you get through this season, but there's lots of recurring things you might prefer to discover through the new show first, THEN go back and get context/backstory.)
Yes as someone who had watched all the classic episodes that are on the doctors home world, the fact the time lords were all dead was a thunderclap. It meant even for the old series fans these early introductory episodes to the basics of doctor who still had a mystery too. Namely, Wtf happened? It was a brilliant revival stroke.
That was the best thing about this episode. Made me sit forward in my seat when Nine mentioned the war and when Rose asked against who, even without him saying you just KNEW who it was
12:35 "Does he not know [where he's from]?" You've unintentionally opened up a whole can of worms there. At this point in the show's history, it's fairly straightforward, but let's say a few years ago there was quite a contraversial change to that status quo. As others have said, the Doctor letting Cassandra die is a really dark moment. It's part of his whole arc this series and how the trauma of the time war have affected him. Eccleston was my first Doctor and I definitely regard him very highly, but my favourite is Twelve (Peter Capaldi). Also, fun fact, Cassandra gave me a nightmare when this first aired when I was 9!
The funny thing to me about the Tainted Love joke is that Cassandra describes it as a sample of one of Earth’s greatest composers, yet the version she plays is a cover (the original was by Gloria Jones in 1964).
FYI, the police box wasn't really a "phone booth". At the time, if someone caught a criminal (say, a shopkeeper catching a shoplifter), he'd throw him in a police box as a temporary jail until the real police could be summoned. The phone on the outside was for summoning them.
It's really hard watching him get emotional as someone who knows, I won't give any spoilers but he's been through so so so much, we learn about most of it over time. So glad to be on this journey with you, you're my absolute favorite reaction channel, and I watch a LOT of them lol. Thank you for starting this and FMA, you're in for quite the adventure with both.
I enjoyed taking a ride with you and seeing your awesome, wonder, and love for the Expanse seeing it for the first time. Knowing what joy and sadness you have ahead of you in Doctor Who makes me extremely jealous.
Love that you are going down the DW rabbit hole! A former friend of mine got me hooked on the series. In my town, we used to have a TARDIS they built on a street corner as like a book exchange thing, not really sure what you call them. People leave books in there for people to borrow or take and then those who take can return or leave books for others. Be sure to bring tissues for these episodes - some of them have all the feels!
My favorite Doctor is the Seventh Doctor, played by Sylvester McCoy in the 80's. He was the last Doctor from Classic Who before the show got cancelled but he was also my introduction to the show. Very under-rated. My second favorite is Peter Capaldi's Twelfth Doctor who you might meet, depending on if you keep watching the show (and I hope you do).
I think you will find that Eccleston is very highly regarded as a Doctor. He had the daunting challenge of reviving the show after many years, and of introducing a whole new audience to Doctor Who, and he hit it out of the park. It's hard for me to pick a favorite. They all have their own personality, and I find that when I'm watching they all inhabit the role, and it is easy to adjust. I might say Tennant... but then I really liked McCoy, and Capaldi was fantastic... then of course Tom Baker _owned_ the role for so long he's iconic, and Troughton was just delightful, and... and... You get the idea. 😊
So here's my take. Every time a new doctor steps in, there's a momentary feeling of "who the hell is *this* guy??" This is natural. Just stick with it and you'll love them too.
Eccleston is MY favorite Doctor, I guess partially because I started watching it with him... but mostly I think because he is kind, snarky, fun, and tortured. Eccleston does a wonderful job portraying this very complex, very well seasoned being.
Eccleston was always a good doctor. I think the fact he only had the one season or series that limits his popularity. I’ll always be an Eleven and Amy Pond guy, but Nine could’ve been up had he had more time to make a lasting impression. For me, I think it’s about the chemistry between Doctor and companion. And I just loved Matt Smith and Karen Gillan’s chemistry. And later when they added Arthur Darvill and Alex Kingston to the line-up, it just made me love the Eleven years more.
I didn't think anyone could replace Tom Baker (the current doc when I started watching as a kid) as my favorite Doctor, but David Tennant's doc is just amazing. Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi are both fantastic as well!
The name, an acronym, was named by The Doctor's granddaughter, Susan, in the very first episode (An Unearthly child) in 1963. It is, officially, called a Type 40 Time Capsule by the Timelords.
This is one of those things that even the writers forget about all the time. There is no canon, only what one can remember at any given time, so it's both a name that Susan made up and what these things are called in general. And outside of this specific one, I don't know which ones are or aren't type 40.
My personal theory is that Time and Relative Dimension is Space is as close an English translation as you can get for the name of Gallifreyan time ships, so Susan shortened it. The Doctor then eventually altered the translation circuit so that 'TARDIS' would be the new default translation.
@@ashleytuchin7693 That's a pretty good theory. Although with the TARDIS translation being psychic and the TARDIS being essentially a cybernetic organism, it occurs to me reprogramming would be unnecessary. It would perhaps simply accept Susan's translation as the one to use because it's what her and the Doctor kept calling it. When Susan told Ian and Barbara that she made up the name, Ian and Barbara didn't have another frame of reference for what to call it (except something generic/literary like "time machine"), so for the TARDIS to translate its name in other languages into anything other than TARDIS would be less helpful. And that's whether or not the name is "Time and Relative Dimension in Space" in Gallifreyan; those words could just be a segment of a product description or something, that she jumbled into a Latin word and chose to use in place of "Gallifreyan (type X) time capsule" or whatever, and the TARDIS might still have accepted it as a usable translation.
Eccleston is definitely my favorite doctor. Tennant is fabtastic, but eccleston channels not only the silliness but the darkness of the doctor perfectly. Ecclestons doctor has RAGE within, and it contrasts with the goodness so well. He's the one I can most buy witnessed a terrible war.
As prince, King Charles was outspoken on environmental sustainability, education and young people. Dedicated to plants and his garden, he revealed in 1986, and again in 2012, that he talks to plants. "I just come and talk to the plants, really. "Very important to talk to them, they respond," he said.10 Sept 2022 As in this episode it's probably the breathe they appreciate. Plants primarily take carbon dioxide from the atmosphere by their leaves.
Christopher Eccleston to me is THE Doctor, a lot of my favourite episodes are not in his series, but he was the first Doctor I saw on TV. I watched him week to week, and when I think 'The Doctor', he's my go-to image.
Oh we love him too, but David Tennant is pure magic. Edit: Chris Ecclston is my second fav. Being an older actor, there are moments where he's just got it. I heard there's a black Doctor now and Jinx Monsoon is in it!? I'm gonna have to pick up doctor who again. I got so burnt out on Matt Smith and lady Doctor just never spoke to me like the others. Also Tom Baker and one of the other OG doctors are pretty legit. And of course Rowan Atkinson did a pretty amazing Doctor in an old holiday comedy special.
Tennant is my favorite Doctor, but Eccleston is a veryveryvery close second! Everyone who has been cast as the Doctor play the role brilliantly, and every iteration has its charms, but I personally consider Russell T. Davies' era of being showrunner (Eccleston and Tennant, 2005-2010) to be THE Doctor Who™ and really the only version of it that I love with my whole entire heart and soul. This show is so special, and given your perspective on humans/humanity, I can tell you're really going to love it!
This episode contains one of my favorite lines The Doctor ever speaks, “You lot. You spend all your time thinking about dying. Like you’re going to get killed by eggs or beef or global warming or asteroids. But you never take the time to imagine the impossible. That maybe you survive.”
Eccelston as the Doctor and Billie Piper as Rose got me into Doctor Who when I was young. I loved them both and there are some fantastic episodes. I do enjoy Tennant but I did not finish his time as the Doctor. And I never watched anyone who took over from Tennant. I think Eccelston is hugely underrated and I really liked him eventhough I am not a Who fan anymore.
This version of the Doctor has a bit of PTSD from the Time War. He can be silly, but like with Casandra, he can also be almost cruel. Him coming to terms with it is a running theme through to Matt Smith's run on the show, and it adds an extra layer to alot of the episode.
it's so interesting to see someone who has no idea of the (decades of) backstory, learning it all for the first time. welcome to the grand universe of doctor who.
Cassandra is Madame Hooch the broom instructor from Harry Potter As for favorite doctors, modern only? 1. Paul McGann 2. Christopher Eccleston 3. Peter Capalpdi 4. Spoilers 5. David Tennant 6. Matt Smith 7. Jodie Whitaker
Interesting, Paul McGann is the top of my list too (of all of them), but David Tennant comes in second for me. Also sometimes it's hard to say, because for example with Jodie Whittaker, I love her Doctor and her as an actress, but her actual episodes were weak.
@@knavehart he was my first Doctor and the movie my first exposure to it and I loved him from the start but I'm so glad for the audios to really have given him a way to shine in the role
@@ArsGratiaArtis85 That's what I love about Big Finish. Doctors who had a weak or brief TV run (Colin Baker, Paul McGann, now even Eccleston) get a second chance. As well as spin-offs and other characters. Though I haven't listened to new stuff in years. I loved when they got REALLY WEIRD with it. At some point it seemed to shift to more New Who style and less experimental.
I absolutely love Christopher Eccleston. He was the first Doctor while I was with my late husband. Another reason is that Chris plays a "bad guy" so much that it is awesome to get to see him smile and be a goofball. He is doing Dr. Who audiobooks now.
A lovely reaction, as usual. Last time, I mentioned “Easter eggs“ for fans of classic Who. When Jade said, “I want to tell you how sorry I am, “ based only on knowing what species he was, our hearts went through our stomachs. Because the old fans have *met* the Time Lords, we’ve *been* to that planet, we’ve loved some of those people. I heard that line and said out loud, ”Ohhhh shit. Oh no.”
This isn't a bad doctor, the series is just REALLY REALLY GOOD under Tennant and Smith. It had also been decades since the original series had ended, so they were figuring out what still worked in this season, and what needed to change to appeal to the modern generations. Also yes, the Doctor is always flirting with everyone and everything... sometimes even on purpose... just don't ask about Queen Elizabeth.
It's a Shame that Eccelston refused to do a 2nd Season as he didn't want to be just known as Doctor Who, Ironically. Tennant and Smith did multiple seasons and have hugely impressive careers since
Few people say Christopher Ecclestone is their favourite Doctor, not because he was bad, but because David Tennant and Matt Smith who came after him were so good.
@@nejoudtourki6000I’m not going to argue as I love both. David Tennant is my favourite because I got to meet him dressed as the doc on location. He was lovely.
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funny factoid about Billie Pipper she was dubbed princess of pop in the UK so her dig at Michael Jackson was a subtle joke to her music career.
Enjoy the nostalgia! Have we worked out how long it will take to watch all the episodes at one per week? Can I politely suggest you watch 2 a week?
You should watch Good Omens too!
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Matt Smith is in the first two seasons of "The Crown" which I highly recommend watching
I like that Rose connects with the staff on the ship, she is from a service industry herself so I totally understand they feel most familiar. It's what works well for her character, she is so human it balances out all the crazy alien action.
What surprised me at the time was how people thought it was boring how she connected with service staff. They commented, "Yeah, we get it. She's good to her inferiors."
No, she felt an affinity for people in service. You, the complainer (back in the day) seem to think service workers are inferior to you. Gross.
The Doctor really is the kind of guy who would happily flirt with a tree
I mean, he's no Jack, but... yup.
*Jack Harkness enters the chat*
he's the kind of guy who would flirt with a tree for sure. now, Jack is the kind of guy who would then ask the tree on a date ;)
I guess maybe in the New Who, but I can't think of any of the old Doctors who would do that.
Actually only this Doctor would. All others have been a little more reserved.
When the Doctor reveals in this episode that he is the last of the Time-Lords and there was a war, that was a big reveal to old Dr. Who fans. So old Who fans knew who he was and where he was from, but this whole "last of his kind" was brand new even to us.
Yeah, in the old series, the Time Lords and Gallifrey were still around. They were both an ally and adversary at times; occasionally asking for his help or chastising him for his odd behavior. The new series starting off this way was a big surprise.
Yes and one thing about the 9th doctor is he is still fresh from the time war, and suffering a bit of PTSD and survivors guilt. Eccleston plays it brilliantly too.
@@Knightfang1 Yep, he's still recovering from regeneration in the 1st episode which is why he was suppressed by his big ears.
To quote from the show itself: Alien "You are not of this world" - The Doctor "No, but I've put a lot of work into it".
"Spoilers."
“Run”
"It started out all happy and nice, now I'm really freakin' sad"
Welcome to Dr. Who!
“I don’t even remember her name and now she’s dead” yeah she better get used to that
The thing with Eccleston is he defined the role, so new Whovians at the time only had him to compare to. Also, David Tennant was just phenomenal. During Eccleston's tenure, he was very well liked, and the chemistry between him and Rose is a huge reason the series succeeded.
“Defined the role”
Thanks for making me feel old.
Tennant got the female vote because of his looks but Eccelston’s edgier and more original performance make him the superior Doctor.
I also think there's an element of really preferring/loving the Doctor in place when a person starts watching it. My first was Eccleston and no matter how great the others undeniably are, he'll always be my favorite because of that, and it feels like others have a similar opinion for whichever actor was their first iteration.
It’s also his short tenure which makes it harder for ppl to connect. But I love 9, him and 12 are top tier
@@ShawnLevasseur for the generation at least :D
Every time you get a new doctor, it takes a few episodes for you to get over the feeling of betrayal. Then you start to think, okay this one's not so bad.. And then halfway through the season you're convinced that THIS doctor is actually your favorite, not the last one! It's a cycle.
"Im talking to a twig..."
the twig: "I am GROOT!"
Cassandra (the bitchy trampoline) was voiced by Zoe Wanamaker. You'd probably know her best from Harry Potter. She played Madam Hooch, the professor teaching the younger students how to fly on their broomsticks in the first film.
She's American, her dad was the driving force behind the Shakespeare Globe theatre in London. It was built in 1599 at Southwark, close to the south bank of the Thames, A modern reconstruction of the Globe, named "Shakespeare's Globe", opened in 1997 approximately 750 feet (230 m) from the site of the original theatre.
Is there a difference between theatre and theater?
Whether you use the spelling theatre or theater will depend on where you hail from. In American English, the spelling is theater; in Britain and the rest of the English-speaking world, theatre is used.
What's the difference between grey and gray?
Gray and grey are both common spellings of the colour between black and white. Gray is more frequent in American English, whereas grey is more common in British English. The varying usage of both grey and gray extends to specialized terms such as animal species (gray/grey whale) and scientific terms (gray/grey matter).
Such a great actress
@@barriehull7076 Half American.
@@barriehull7076and colour versus color.
She was also outstanding in the first season of Prime Suspect with Helen Mirren
Fun Fact 1; The name TARDIS was an improvisational name give by actress that played the ordinal Doctor's granddaughter that stuck. Fun Fact 2; Dials & levers - the original actor William Hartnell that played The Doctor asked what each control did and when he was told they didn't have any real function he told the director that they needed a function so the the door control would always be the door controller or the audience would notice that he was using different controls & it would break the realism so once he used a control for a function it was recorded so that controller would always be used for the same function.
I've been a fan of Doctor Who since the 80s and I didn't know that. Way to drop the knowledge. 🙂
Yep. He (and Star Trek actors) had to scold directors who tried to get them to press the wrong buttons. They KNEW the viewers were paying attention.
They frequently used the same lever/switch for different purposes. Not sure where you got that info.
Go look at the 4th Doctor and you’ll see they used the big lever with the red ball on it for multiple uses before they decided it was officially the door lever.
@@Parallax-3D I was referring to the William Hartnell actor only, I believe he wanted them labeled because he knew he was starting to suffer from dementia & couldn't remember what he used last time. Today however they don't pay that much attention to things like that & it is only when fans call them out that they try to assign functions to things.
"Everything has its time and everything dies" is such a great moment for me, because it shows that the Doctor is not the type of hero to let unrepentant villains evade consequences. Cassandra was gleefully declaring that she'd avoid legal punishment, and showing zero remorse for the people she'd just killed. If she'd showed even an ounce of conscience or regret, then maybe the Doctor would've showed her mercy.
But if that was actually his reason for not saving her, wouldn't it have made more sense for him to say something like "people who don't respect life aren't worth saving" rather than "everything has its time and everything dies"? The latter sounds more like the line of a character who wouldn't save any person they think has lived longer than their "natural" life span (which sounds kind of selfish coming from an immortal).
@@adamdavis1648 Well... it's not immortal, and is raging and angry, he felt a deep connection with ladytree, he felt less lonely for a moment... and she died...
@@WalterLoggetti I'm not clear on what you mean.
@@adamdavis1648 From my point of view, in that moment he was merely seeking vengeance.
And for my knowledge the Doctor is not immortal, he die. Many times... (:P)
He regenerates, carrying the same memories, but not the same person, and eventually his regeneration could end.
@@WalterLoggetti
Spoilers
Well, he had just come out of the time war. Of course he was not really in a mind state to be how the latter iterations and the previous ones behaved. Everything has its time to die, and to be fair when he does reach his end, he accepts it. Grumbling but he does.
Christopher Eccleston was a brilliant Doctor - without him the series would not have taken off the way it did in 2005. People tend to sort of forget about him because he only did one season, and then the show continued to rise in popularity over the next few years, so lots of people jumped on board after he'd gone.
"I'm not supposed to show them in public."
Angela: "Why not; they're dope?"
Yeah, so are boobs. So, I assume it's a similar thing for the tree species.
That's me with a lot of things we're not allowed to show in public, really.
To be fair, if you look at it logically, stripped from our cultural context, the idea that you shouldn't show breasts or really any part of our bodies is kind of ridiculous
@@peterlewis2178 I totally agree! For the most part (yes, there are exceptions) women have all the same parts as other women, as men do with men. We show SOME body parts, but why are they okay and others not? Well, in my opinion, it's because the higher ups wanted to control people, and to do that, they had to find something everyone shared. Essentially, all humans, eat, breathe and have sex and die. You can't use breathing against anyone, but you can tell them what they should and shouldn't eat (and many religions do) and as sex is needed to breed, it's the perfect mechanism. So make it a bad thing except in certain circumstances. And since some of the parts of the body are included in sex, they fall under the same umbrella. It's ridiculous, really. Of course, most religions control what people think about death as well.💙
So only in New York and some countries?
I did not remember the face of BO appearing this early on this show. That’s awesome
People may have posted this, but as an old school Doctor Who fan... this news was pretty shocking - the Doctor's home world and people were fine and dandy where we left off in old Doctor Who... so that was shocking news for us when he told us this had happened!
This episode highlights a unique part of the show as a whole. You had the people like you who knows little to nothing about the Doctor's history finding out about it along the way, but you also had the people who had watched Classic Who and knew who he was before the war.
When he's telling Rose about it at the end really hits differently depending on which group you're in.
I love that while Angela is dancing on the notes of "Tainted Love", the Doctor dances on the chair behind her... 😂
The world doesn't end if the Doctor dances.
During the 90's, Billie Piper (the actress who plays Rose) was a pop star. She initially gained recognition as a singer after releasing her debut single "Because We Want To" at age 15, which made her the youngest female singer to enter the UK Singles Chart at number one; her follow-up single "Girlfriend" also entered at number one. In 1998, Piper released her debut studio album, Honey to the B, which was certified platinum by the British Phonographic Industry. Her second studio album, Walk of Life, was released in 2000 and spawned her third number-one single, "Day & Night". In 2003, Piper announced that she had ended her music career to focus on acting.
That's really interesting. I knew she was a pop singer but didn't realize she had started that young.
@@zachariousmccool5768 Her steamy series after Doctor who was 'Secret Diary of a call girl', i've got the box set but i've never seen it, supposed to be very good.
@@d33dub Ah cool. Might look into it as I did enjoy Billie on Doctor Who.
@@d33dubit is really good! she also has some spicy scenes with matt smith in it, which is a mind trip lol
@d33dub Secret Diary of a Call Girl was a good show. Funny but thought provoking.
My friends and i still occasionally quote "Moisturize Me!!" 😀
"That is dark!"
Yep. This show takes you through everything.
14:36 the term most commonly used for those who travel with the Doctor is "companion".
✌️😁
Used to be assistant though right?
@@DaDunge he occasionally introduces them as his assistant when talking tp guest characters, but that's usually to avoid dealing with pointless questions. Companion isn't really even used that often in the show, but producers and audiences adopted it as the official term.
@@JakkFrost1 Haha I beleive his children of time are basically used as much as companions.
@@DaDunge No. Always companion.
Eccleston not being many peoples’ favorite isn’t an indictment on him, it’s just a statement on how great the next three Doctors are all in their own unique ways.
I'd put him above Smith.
Better than Tennant, Smith & Calpadi
Also, he only got one season, apparently due to creative differences. The others got more time in our "consciousness".
@@stormhawk3319 I wouldn't put him above David Tennant but 9 is my favorite after 10
You can always tell where a Who Fan started by asking their fav doctor I am Tom Baker all others are to me based on him to me.
Bit of trivia, but RTD actually blew a lot of the budget on making this episode; he didn’t really know how to manage a Sci-Fi project and underestimated how much the BBC could give him for these costumes and sets. Fortunately he learned well and later seasons are better handled therein.
A detail I really appreciate is how much the Doctor and Rose - the latter a working class Brit - really value the lives of everyone far more; Rose being gracious to Raffalo who is just staff is commented on. Most of the people on the station are upper-crust and just spent a lot of money to watch the spectacle of a planet being destroyed by its own star; Jabe being descended from Earth’s trees is the exception, and her sympathy for the Doctor being the last of his race emphasises this genuine connection (and makes her sacrifice to save everyone they can all the sadder)… Cassandra is the last “pure” human, and she’s using this whole thing and killing people for her own benefit; proving how she’s so callous she’ll sacrifice her physical and metaphorical humanity to stay alive, whereas the Doctor is genuinely caring for the people who died horribly…
RTD really perfected the art of the bottle episode, much thanks to this episode. With that we got both the best and the worst rated episodes in the show's history, classic and new.
some non-spoiler context: in the original show (1960s through 80s), to which this is a sequel, the Doctor was comparatively more open about where he was from, and his homeworld and people were alive. He was still wandering around with stray humans helping people but more just because he could and wanted to. And he certainly was not nearly as likely to kill someone in cold blood the way he did Cassandra.
So, for those who came into this show knowing the previous one, this episode both introduces mysteries (what exactly happened in between the two shows) and clarifies some things (why is he so sad and not quite as kind as he once was). Good deal of season 1 is kinda him finding himself again after what happened.
This was his regeneration to try and process his PTSD which is very apparent in a few episodes. After Eccleston The Doctor becomes "A man who regrets and A man who forgets."
That's interesting, because I've watched Diamanda Hagan's classic Who guides and she makes the case that The Doctor is actually much more ruthless and kills a lot in Classic Who.
@@adamdavis1648 at the very start? Sure, dude gave zero shits. And he certainly stayed ruthless at times (frequently even) after that, but Eccleston is still distinctly harsher than where we left him pre time skip at first.
@@DarthTach Well, then that would be a spoiler, wouldn't it now ???
If she hasn't seen it, then don't talk about it. She doesn't know if things WILL be revealed or not, if things were done the same way, or moved along another path, or if there's ANY correlation to the past at all, so you shouldn't be discussing it ...
Let her find out these things on her own ... that's a PART of the mystery/discovery that is revealed in the WATCHING of the show.
Just to be precise, "Doctor Who" premiered on November 23rd, 1963, at 5:25pm. It was delayed for reports about the assassination which happened the day before, November 22nd.
I'd really recommend watching episode 1 from 1963 as a one-off - there's so much set up in that episode, "An Unearthly Child", which is still being riffed on and expanded sixty years later.
The broadcast started less than 2 minutes late, which was not at all uncommon for late afternoon on a Saturday. Even today it's hardly surprising if shows start a minute or so late. The story of it being "delayed" is somewhat of an exaggeration.
It was scheduled for 5:15pm, and actually started at 5:16pm (plus a few seconds).
I love Eccleston and he is a favorite of mine because of reasons that will show in future episodes. I think he just gets overshadowed by a couple of the other Doctors. Hard to have just 1 favorite.
No it's easy, 11 rules
Capaldi Doc was the best for me. Personal taste etc. And writing of some episodes is great
He's super underrated because of his short run. So while it's hard to pick a favorite, I'll always push a little harder for Eccleston appreciation because he doesn't get what he deserves.
It’s the smile; Chris has the most warm kind of authenticity when he smiles, precisely because it’s so imperfect yet genuine… It’s such a shame how bad working conditions were and how he and Russel T. Davies had their falling out; the fact the BBC apparently blacklisted Eccleston and RTD didn’t stand up for him (or a lot of the crew) is really sad.
I wonder if he’d ever forgive Russel, but it’s clear it would take a *lot* of proof for that to be possible. I just hope RTD is a better creative head nowadays…
@@Alex-wg1mb Another underrated one tbh
Watching Jade burn, "Wow this is dark."
Me: "Just wait for Cassandra's death."
Still morning Jane (did a quick Google search bc I wasn't sure and saw both in the comments Jade and Jabe) after all these years. She was amazing
@@stephjovi She'd have made an amazing companion.
13:45 interestingly her mom mentions the lottery during the call, suggesting from her perspective, it was still the morning before Rose met the Doctor, since she was initially going down to the basement to collect funds for a lottery pool.
that would definitely make sense
I'll be the one calling him "The Traumatized Doctor". Future episodes will demonstrate, though even this one shows how done he is with those who take lives.
Remember Clive in the first episode? Wherever the Doctor goes, death follows. Doesnt mean he causes the deaths, he saves as many as he can but usually cant save them all. Keep watching
The Doctor is just a traveler, passing through different times, sometimes helping, sometimes just enjoying himself.
to quote the doctor: "... and then there was Earth..."
He's so much more than that.
and sometimes messing things up :D such as in "if you had not chosen this place on a whim, would anyone here have died?" - one of my favourite moments of Modern Who for sure
Until we find out about Idris on why the TARDIS "misses" the mark
@@miller-joel He's modest. Sometimes.
7:42: you can genuinely see why the Doctor travels here. He’s getting to see and enjoy a new culture that’s he’s never witnessed before. That’s why he does it - to see and enjoy new stuff.
Every Doctor and Companion bring something special to the show. ❤😊❤
My favorite Doctor is Tom Baker (Fourth Doctor) because he was the one I was exposed to growing up, watching old episodes in the evening on our local PBS affiliate. Very long tenure as the Doctor.
Same for me.
For me it's the Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee), but it's the same reasoning he was the Doctor when I was old enough to appreciate the show.
Yep, same here. I think most people define the show by who their "their first Doctor" was, and that introduction sets their baseline for them as to what "The Doctor" should be going forward.
i came to the doctor when Mccoy was on the helm, the first doctor to be seen here in germany...
it came late nights and i had to watch it secretly because of school next day...
My first episode was "The Hand of Fear" on WTTW Chicago
"You're toast too, buddy!"
OMG she had no idea! :D
thought the same....
Eccleston isn't my favorite Doctor, but I still adore him! I admit I feel a little rage when I hear people say they skip his season. He's a wonderful Doctor!
'Barking up his tree huh?' *LOL* great quip!
Chris is my favourite Doctor. There's something magic about him - grounded yet alien.
This was the episode that got me hooked on modern Who about 10 years ago. It struck me as unusual for a TV show that a new side character - not the show's main protagonist - was the hero willing to make the big sacrifice (in this case Jade the tree-like lady). The fact that the Doctor looks for the good in people and connects with those who are kind is - for me - probably the main attraction to this franchise.
This was my first dw encounter and I remember it got me hooked. Totally forgot how well crafted it was though. Thank you for bringing me back to this episode again. It’s such a good blend of drama, comedy, a bit of mystery and thriller. But what makes it special to me is that silly yet imaginative world building combined with deep melancholy existential contemplation. Eccleston was my favorite for a very long time until I got to Capaldi. 😁
Eccleston is my favourite Doctor (though Tennant is very very close behind). Eccleston was the Doctor when I started this show in 2005 and he instantly captivated me. He's got this goofiness and charm to him while also having a serious side, and you get to see a bit of both in this episode.
His speech in this one about humans never imagining that we could survive so far into the future because of all the threats in our world, and later the moment he tells Rose about the war that destroyed his home planet... so much solemn gravitas. I think the reason he took Rose to see the Earth die was because he needed someone with him who could understand his pain.
This is a fun one, showing off the weird and wild ways this show can go. Wacky-looking aliens (and some pretty great costuming/practical effects work) galore!
Edit: Cassandra is voiced by Zoë Wanamaker - you might know her as the quidditch teacher Madam Hooch from the Harry Potter films.
tennant only on his first run...
@@Metzwerg74 First of all, shh, spoilers!
Second of all, I disagree, but that's ok, to each their own.
@@gazzamanazza4pm with first run, i meant the first time, all 4 seasons, but not the revival after jodi
@@Metzwerg74 I know! That's why I said ssh, spoilers! I'd try and stick to the episode and The Doctor at hand as far as this comment section goes. Don't want to spoil anything for them.
For people not from the U.K. Billie Piper had a brief pop career as a teen pop star, her first single came out at the same time as "Hit me baby one more time" which makes the inclusion of a Brittany Spiers song here feel like a reference.
Yeah, at the time the new series was being rumored, the concept of Billie Piper (known for music and tabloid hijinks at the time) being a Doctor Who companion was a source of amusement that made people say, "Noooo. That can't be what they're doing." It would be the equivalent of casting Justin Bieber as The Doctor.
Am I the only one who still listens to Billie's music?
My favorite fact about this episode is when The Doctor takes Rose back to Earth at the end none of the people there are extras, they went out and filmed Billie Piper and Christopher Ecclestone acting against a backdrop of real people
Cassandra is played by the amazing American-British actress Zoe Wanamaker, daughter to American actor and Director Sam Wanamaker.
Madame Hooch from Harry Potter.
@@Richard_Ashton And Susan Harper in My Family
She's American, her dad was the driving force behind the Shakespeare Globe theatre in London. It was built in 1599 at Southwark, close to the south bank of the Thames, A modern reconstruction of the Globe, named "Shakespeare's Globe", opened in 1997 approximately 750 feet (230 m) from the site of the original theatre.
Is there a difference between theatre and theater?
Whether you use the spelling theatre or theater will depend on where you hail from. In American English, the spelling is theater; in Britain and the rest of the English-speaking world, theatre is used.
What's the difference between grey and gray?
Gray and grey are both common spellings of the colour between black and white. Gray is more frequent in American English, whereas grey is more common in British English. The varying usage of both grey and gray extends to specialized terms such as animal species (gray/grey whale) and scientific terms (gray/grey matter).
@@barriehull7076 Just a difference of spelling.
Her dad was forced to flee the US as he'd been targeted by the FBI during McCarthy's red scare and Hollywood's blacklisting. She was allowed to see a redacted copy of his FBI file for her episode of Who Do You Think You Are.
Some of the reasons Eccleston isn't as many people's favourite as other Doctors is most of the viewership of his time were older fans who already had favourites. By the time newer fans developed, the very popular David Tennant was in the role.
That's a very good point, actually. I think Eccleston was also damaged for a long time by misinformation about him and his attitude towards the show. I used to see fans making all sorts of assertions about him, as if things they'd made up inside their head were facts.
I'm late to this series from you, but I just wanted to chime in to say that Nine IS my favorite Doctor! That doesn't mean I don't enjoy those coming later, but I loved Nine SO SO much. I'm loving that you're catching up on this series!
The amusing thing about that last scene with Mickey in the previous episode is that it is a reverse take on the usual fantasy Frank Frazetta /Boris Vallejo type barbarian paintings that were the usual fare on book covers. The female clinging to the thigh of the male sword swinging protagonist that is protecting her from the evil monster. This time, it is the male - Mickey - who is doing the cowering and clinging to Hero Rose.
I always thought the early Mickey storyline was a little off . Why in hell would Rose be attracted to this wimp .? She could do so much better . Those who have seen future episodes know how things turn out , no spoilers
What a horrible take Mickeyis loyal and kind Rose is extremely self-centered wow@@jamesripley6712
@@jamesripley6712I assumed their relationship was something that started when they were both in school and, like other aspects of Rose's life before meeting the Doctor, just kept on going due to sheer inertia.
the pumping you referred to during the doctors piloting the tardis is because the controls are ramshackle and ad hock put together as the original doctor (a human) built the tardis from junk in a scrap yard, but over the the years lore was changed and now we see an alien doctor that had 13 lives and a tardis he stole...
?? The original Doctor was never human - unless you mean the original idea for the show? The Unearthly Child, the first episode back in 1963 clearly shows the Doctor as an alien, and the police box as a disguise (a useful disguise in the 1960s as the police boxes were still ubiquitous in the UK at the time). The TARDIS was first seen in a junkyard, but it wasn't built there.
The Ecc man is still my favorite Nu Who Doctor, and I seriously doubt anyone else is going to come along and unseat him at this point.
Agreed. Should have played the role as long as Tom Baker.
"Stop asking, I'm not telling you anything. Spoilers, sweetie". That is actually a line from Doctor Who.
The Last Human was voiced by Zoe Wanamaker who has done a lot of British TV and theatre, film-wise she's probably best known as Madame Hooch in the first Harry Potter film
Famous, maybe, but best known, as in the audience got to see her acting, Shadow & Bones
The space station was the interior of the Temple of Peace in Cardiff. Worth a look
Peter Capaldi is my favorite Doctor. He is the 12th Doctor & is just a genius actor Tennant is a close second but Peter just HAS it. He also wrote to the BBC as a kid asking to be head of the Doctor Who official fanclub which is just the most precious thing ever.
and cappaldi, had the most amazing monologues... in ALL the series... i still like ecclestone more, as cappaldis doctor, suffered from having the "less good" storyline writing..
@@Metzwerg74 See I disagree. I see this complaint often and I agree the episode story's weren't the best ever, but the character work done in season 8-10 is the best the show ever had imo
Greetings sinner. Only in darkness are we revealed.
@@deathswitch2404 I completely agree! The codependent evolution of the Doctor and Clara’s friendship to the detriment of both of them was amazing!
Christopher Eccleston is hands-down my favorite Doctor, he's just so great lol
20:30 The voice of Cassandra O'Brien is the same actress that played Madame Hooch in the Harry Potter movies. There's actually a lot of actors who do both. In fact, Harry Melling (Dudley Dursley) is Patrick Troughton's (The 2nd Doctor's) grandson.
David Tennant was both the 10th doctor and Barty Crouch Jr.
Micheal Gambon played Dumbledore and Kazran Sardick in a Christmas Special
Helen McCrory was Narcissa and Rosanna Calvierri.
Bill Nighy played Rufus Scrimgeour and guest-starred as Dr. Black in the Vincent Van Gogh episode
Toby Jones voiced Dobby and played the Dream Lord
Imelda Staunton played Umbridge and also did some interface voice work for Who
Mark Williams was Arthur Weasley and Brian Williams
David Bradley (Filch) was also a villain named Solomon in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship
John Hurt who played Ollivander is the War Doctor
Roger Lloyd Pack (Barty Crouch Sr.) was John Lumic
Adrian Rawlins who appeared as James Potter was a character named Dr.Ryder in the one of the Ood episodes
Shirley Henderson was Moaning Myrtle and Ursula Blake from the infamous Live and Monsters
John Cleese from Monty Python played Nearly Headless Nick in Harry Potter and was also a cameo in a 1979 episode of who
Warwick Davis played Griphook and Filius Flitwick played a character named Porridge in Series 7
Jeff Rawle (Amos Diggory) showed up a few times in classic Who as Plantagenet
Elizabeth Spriggs who was the Fat Lady played a cannibal named Tabby in a couple episodes of Who in the 80s
The are likely more. These are just the ones I know of.
And he *must* be persuaded to play the Doctor.
Eccleston was so amazing. Every rewatch I fall in love with his Doctor again and wish he had stayed longer. But tbf as soon as Tennant gets going it's like oh yeah it was just meant to be
Without revealing more you'll find out later -- the bit where Jabe talks about where the Doctor's from and says she's sorry... It must've been SO INTERESTING for older fans to watch at the time. Because they WOULD know where the Doctor is from. But the actual war and him being "last of the time lords" was an invention of this new show. (Which I think is obvious, given the time they spend on it here.) And it definitely changed the dynamic and the character of the Doctor, going from him being [a person from this planet], to being the last survivor.
Eventually it would be fun to see you react to some select episodes from Classic Who. Like maybe one or two stories from each Doctor, to get a feel for them. But definitely not until you've watched a few seasons of this, so you have more of a grasp on the worldbuilding. Personally I'd say watch at least season 3 first. (Obviously nothing from Classic Who can really "spoil" New Who once you get through this season, but there's lots of recurring things you might prefer to discover through the new show first, THEN go back and get context/backstory.)
Yes as someone who had watched all the classic episodes that are on the doctors home world, the fact the time lords were all dead was a thunderclap. It meant even for the old series fans these early introductory episodes to the basics of doctor who still had a mystery too. Namely, Wtf happened? It was a brilliant revival stroke.
That was the best thing about this episode. Made me sit forward in my seat when Nine mentioned the war and when Rose asked against who, even without him saying you just KNEW who it was
12:35 "Does he not know [where he's from]?" You've unintentionally opened up a whole can of worms there. At this point in the show's history, it's fairly straightforward, but let's say a few years ago there was quite a contraversial change to that status quo.
As others have said, the Doctor letting Cassandra die is a really dark moment. It's part of his whole arc this series and how the trauma of the time war have affected him. Eccleston was my first Doctor and I definitely regard him very highly, but my favourite is Twelve (Peter Capaldi).
Also, fun fact, Cassandra gave me a nightmare when this first aired when I was 9!
The funny thing to me about the Tainted Love joke is that Cassandra describes it as a sample of one of Earth’s greatest composers, yet the version she plays is a cover (the original was by Gloria Jones in 1964).
I have the feeling Cassandra just makes it up as she goes along
I think we can assume that facts get lost/confused in the 5 million years in between
She said composer, not singer.
@@davidabercrombie5427 5 billion! And yeah, of course knowledge is lost. The joke was for the audience.
@@flaggerify Good point! Ed Cobb would be honored that his song lasted 5 billion years!
FYI, the police box wasn't really a "phone booth". At the time, if someone caught a criminal (say, a shopkeeper catching a shoplifter), he'd throw him in a police box as a temporary jail until the real police could be summoned. The phone on the outside was for summoning them.
The creators of Rugrats were Whovians. In the episode where they're lost in the toy store you can see Dalek easter egg. Tommy even uses a screwdriver
I love Eccleston he brought the show back to life I think its just David Tennant was more known and got a lot of his fans from the other shows he does
It`s not that Ecclestone is a bad Doctor, it`s just the fact that what is yet to come is just too good!
It's really hard watching him get emotional as someone who knows, I won't give any spoilers but he's been through so so so much, we learn about most of it over time.
So glad to be on this journey with you, you're my absolute favorite reaction channel, and I watch a LOT of them lol. Thank you for starting this and FMA, you're in for quite the adventure with both.
I enjoyed taking a ride with you and seeing your awesome, wonder, and love for the Expanse seeing it for the first time. Knowing what joy and sadness you have ahead of you in Doctor Who makes me extremely jealous.
Love that you are going down the DW rabbit hole! A former friend of mine got me hooked on the series. In my town, we used to have a TARDIS they built on a street corner as like a book exchange thing, not really sure what you call them. People leave books in there for people to borrow or take and then those who take can return or leave books for others. Be sure to bring tissues for these episodes - some of them have all the feels!
My favorite Doctor is the Seventh Doctor, played by Sylvester McCoy in the 80's. He was the last Doctor from Classic Who before the show got cancelled but he was also my introduction to the show. Very under-rated. My second favorite is Peter Capaldi's Twelfth Doctor who you might meet, depending on if you keep watching the show (and I hope you do).
Eccleston is absolutely my favorite Doctor!! Tennant is also brilliant, but Eccleston remains my 100% favorite. ^.^ The puppy in a leather jacket!
I think you will find that Eccleston is very highly regarded as a Doctor. He had the daunting challenge of reviving the show after many years, and of introducing a whole new audience to Doctor Who, and he hit it out of the park. It's hard for me to pick a favorite. They all have their own personality, and I find that when I'm watching they all inhabit the role, and it is easy to adjust. I might say Tennant... but then I really liked McCoy, and Capaldi was fantastic... then of course Tom Baker _owned_ the role for so long he's iconic, and Troughton was just delightful, and... and... You get the idea. 😊
I’ve always loved how RTD treated the gentle care the Doctor and Rose developed.
So here's my take.
Every time a new doctor steps in, there's a momentary feeling of "who the hell is *this* guy??" This is natural. Just stick with it and you'll love them too.
Who is he? WHO is he?
Eccleston is MY favorite Doctor, I guess partially because I started watching it with him... but mostly I think because he is kind, snarky, fun, and tortured. Eccleston does a wonderful job portraying this very complex, very well seasoned being.
Eccleston was always a good doctor. I think the fact he only had the one season or series that limits his popularity. I’ll always be an Eleven and Amy Pond guy, but Nine could’ve been up had he had more time to make a lasting impression.
For me, I think it’s about the chemistry between Doctor and companion. And I just loved Matt Smith and Karen Gillan’s chemistry. And later when they added Arthur Darvill and Alex Kingston to the line-up, it just made me love the Eleven years more.
I didn't think anyone could replace Tom Baker (the current doc when I started watching as a kid) as my favorite Doctor, but David Tennant's doc is just amazing. Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi are both fantastic as well!
The name, an acronym, was named by The Doctor's granddaughter, Susan, in the very first episode (An Unearthly child) in 1963. It is, officially, called a Type 40 Time Capsule by the Timelords.
This is one of those things that even the writers forget about all the time. There is no canon, only what one can remember at any given time, so it's both a name that Susan made up and what these things are called in general. And outside of this specific one, I don't know which ones are or aren't type 40.
@@Swenglish I like to think that Timelords keep blending their own timelines so "cannon" is a messy thing.
My personal theory is that Time and Relative Dimension is Space is as close an English translation as you can get for the name of Gallifreyan time ships, so Susan shortened it. The Doctor then eventually altered the translation circuit so that 'TARDIS' would be the new default translation.
@@ashleytuchin7693 That's a pretty good theory. Although with the TARDIS translation being psychic and the TARDIS being essentially a cybernetic organism, it occurs to me reprogramming would be unnecessary. It would perhaps simply accept Susan's translation as the one to use because it's what her and the Doctor kept calling it. When Susan told Ian and Barbara that she made up the name, Ian and Barbara didn't have another frame of reference for what to call it (except something generic/literary like "time machine"), so for the TARDIS to translate its name in other languages into anything other than TARDIS would be less helpful. And that's whether or not the name is "Time and Relative Dimension in Space" in Gallifreyan; those words could just be a segment of a product description or something, that she jumbled into a Latin word and chose to use in place of "Gallifreyan (type X) time capsule" or whatever, and the TARDIS might still have accepted it as a usable translation.
Eccleston is definitely my favorite doctor. Tennant is fabtastic, but eccleston channels not only the silliness but the darkness of the doctor perfectly. Ecclestons doctor has RAGE within, and it contrasts with the goodness so well. He's the one I can most buy witnessed a terrible war.
As prince, King Charles was outspoken on environmental sustainability, education and young people. Dedicated to plants and his garden, he revealed in 1986, and again in 2012, that he talks to plants. "I just come and talk to the plants, really. "Very important to talk to them, they respond," he said.10 Sept 2022
As in this episode it's probably the breathe they appreciate. Plants primarily take carbon dioxide from the atmosphere by their leaves.
"No one says he's their favourite doctor."
Um, EXCUSE ME? He is the best doctor the series has ever seen!!!! Anyone who says otherwise is crazy.
Billie Piper is absolutely GORGEOUS!
Christopher Eccleston to me is THE Doctor, a lot of my favourite episodes are not in his series, but he was the first Doctor I saw on TV. I watched him week to week, and when I think 'The Doctor', he's my go-to image.
Oh we love him too, but David Tennant is pure magic.
Edit: Chris Ecclston is my second fav. Being an older actor, there are moments where he's just got it. I heard there's a black Doctor now and Jinx Monsoon is in it!? I'm gonna have to pick up doctor who again. I got so burnt out on Matt Smith and lady Doctor just never spoke to me like the others. Also Tom Baker and one of the other OG doctors are pretty legit. And of course Rowan Atkinson did a pretty amazing Doctor in an old holiday comedy special.
Matt Smith, all day, every day
Yes, yes he is!
Matt Smith did a fantastic job with The Doctor, but I do think he got run into the ground a bit by the end.
Absolutely love watching you slowly discover this show and the Doctor themself.
Moisturize me! MOISTURIZE ME!!
Me. Every summer.
Tennant is my favorite Doctor, but Eccleston is a veryveryvery close second! Everyone who has been cast as the Doctor play the role brilliantly, and every iteration has its charms, but I personally consider Russell T. Davies' era of being showrunner (Eccleston and Tennant, 2005-2010) to be THE Doctor Who™ and really the only version of it that I love with my whole entire heart and soul. This show is so special, and given your perspective on humans/humanity, I can tell you're really going to love it!
This episode contains one of my favorite lines The Doctor ever speaks, “You lot. You spend all your time thinking about dying. Like you’re going to get killed by eggs or beef or global warming or asteroids. But you never take the time to imagine the impossible. That maybe you survive.”
Eccelston as the Doctor and Billie Piper as Rose got me into Doctor Who when I was young. I loved them both and there are some fantastic episodes. I do enjoy Tennant but I did not finish his time as the Doctor. And I never watched anyone who took over from Tennant. I think Eccelston is hugely underrated and I really liked him eventhough I am not a Who fan anymore.
i had seen doctor who episodes here and there with the older doctors but ecclestone as the doctor was the first series i watched in full
This version of the Doctor has a bit of PTSD from the Time War. He can be silly, but like with Casandra, he can also be almost cruel. Him coming to terms with it is a running theme through to Matt Smith's run on the show, and it adds an extra layer to alot of the episode.
Everyone likes the 9th Doctor. Eccleston is fantastic as a the Doctor and he is the reason that the series continued.
'no one rly says he's their favourite Doctor'
He's mine! 💖 I think mostly he got less time than other Doctors and he's the oldest one now
Oh, well I'll say it, he's my favourite doctor!
it's so interesting to see someone who has no idea of the (decades of) backstory, learning it all for the first time. welcome to the grand universe of doctor who.
Cassandra is Madame Hooch the broom instructor from Harry Potter
As for favorite doctors, modern only?
1. Paul McGann
2. Christopher Eccleston
3. Peter Capalpdi
4. Spoilers
5. David Tennant
6. Matt Smith
7. Jodie Whitaker
Interesting, Paul McGann is the top of my list too (of all of them), but David Tennant comes in second for me.
Also sometimes it's hard to say, because for example with Jodie Whittaker, I love her Doctor and her as an actress, but her actual episodes were weak.
@@HarbekVideos yeah. Her being at the bottom of the list is more Chibnall's fault than her own. Maybe Big Finish could raise her ranking for me.
PAul McGann - in audio is amazing I am always so bummed that so many fans have not gotten to experience it.
@@knavehart he was my first Doctor and the movie my first exposure to it and I loved him from the start but I'm so glad for the audios to really have given him a way to shine in the role
@@ArsGratiaArtis85 That's what I love about Big Finish. Doctors who had a weak or brief TV run (Colin Baker, Paul McGann, now even Eccleston) get a second chance. As well as spin-offs and other characters.
Though I haven't listened to new stuff in years. I loved when they got REALLY WEIRD with it. At some point it seemed to shift to more New Who style and less experimental.
I absolutely love Christopher Eccleston. He was the first Doctor while I was with my late husband. Another reason is that Chris plays a "bad guy" so much that it is awesome to get to see him smile and be a goofball. He is doing Dr. Who audiobooks now.
A lovely reaction, as usual.
Last time, I mentioned “Easter eggs“ for fans of classic Who. When Jade said, “I want to tell you how sorry I am, “ based only on knowing what species he was, our hearts went through our stomachs. Because the old fans have *met* the Time Lords, we’ve *been* to that planet, we’ve loved some of those people. I heard that line and said out loud, ”Ohhhh shit. Oh no.”
It is perfect that the Doctor is bringing more of you singing, and chair dancing!
This isn't a bad doctor, the series is just REALLY REALLY GOOD under Tennant and Smith. It had also been decades since the original series had ended, so they were figuring out what still worked in this season, and what needed to change to appeal to the modern generations.
Also yes, the Doctor is always flirting with everyone and everything... sometimes even on purpose... just don't ask about Queen Elizabeth.
It's a Shame that Eccelston refused to do a 2nd Season as he didn't want to be just known as Doctor Who, Ironically. Tennant and Smith did multiple seasons and have hugely impressive careers since
capaldi too! some of the best episodes
That isn't the reason he left @@IAmThatBit--
He left because he hated RTD
@@TheKonkaman completely, understandable
Lady cassandra is voiced by Zoe wanamaker
Few people say Christopher Ecclestone is their favourite Doctor, not because he was bad, but because David Tennant and Matt Smith who came after him were so good.
i stopped watching when matt smith became the doctor, got a few episodes in and just couldn't find him very believable
CE is much much BETTER than DT
@@nejoudtourki6000I’m not going to argue as I love both. David Tennant is my favourite because I got to meet him dressed as the doc on location. He was lovely.
Also, I think, because they had so much more time. Ecclestone's run was much shorter.
@@cole003f Smith may be my favourite. He plays old soul in young body playing mad professor extremely well.
Eccleston is and will always be my favorite Doctor. I consider it a crime against humanity that he only got one season/series.