Linux Mint 22.1: Keeping DEB packages alive, is it still the GOAT?

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  • @TheLinuxEXP
    @TheLinuxEXP  8 годин тому +20

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    • @Xqzitd
      @Xqzitd 8 годин тому +1

      Please, can you make a video about system resource monitoring on Linux. Preferably about utilities with GUI on Arch Linux. I just don't know. I can't find a direct utility or a center or just a program, a very extensive, multifunctional, multifunctional program. There are a lot of them, but I don't know which one is the right one, and in your video there will at least be a top one where you can choose. I just surfed many sites and didn't find that one. So far I'm using this system-monitoring-center, but I feel like it's really missing. The same thing, WHICH ARE CURRENT AND WHICH ARE UPDATED.
      I just collect databases from basic applications. I would like you to make a video about office programs. This is a separate video. I also searched many sites and it is not clear. My database will consist of 2 programs libreoffice and onlyofiice, well, if necessary, there are pdf mupdf viewer and ocular. The result is that you are an experienced guy and have more knowledge. What exactly is needed in the video I would like you to make a big top with a selection of programs THAT ARE CURRENT AND UPDATED.
      And this is important, the same as in those texts, but about something else. Make a video about disk editors or disk management. Well, in short, so that there is also a large top of CURRENT PROGRAMS and so that they are extensive, so that there are many functions.

    • @vardekpetrovic9716
      @vardekpetrovic9716 6 годин тому

      removing accents is stupid making Ö/Ø like the I in "bird" into o like in board makes no sense at all, also fakade? vs façade?

    • @insanelyjason
      @insanelyjason 2 години тому

      Literally one of the slowest VPN's in existence.

    • @PSXman9
      @PSXman9 2 години тому +1

      Proton has a history of handing out critical userdata to law enforcement without a warrant.

    • @vardekpetrovic9716
      @vardekpetrovic9716 2 години тому

      @@PSXman9 no that is not the same software. I ment steam proton.

  • @fellipec
    @fellipec 8 годин тому +207

    DEB packages only die when Debian gets rid of it. Probably never.

    • @花XOI
      @花XOI 7 годин тому +23

      Debian is like concrete.

    • @monkeysausageclub
      @monkeysausageclub 6 годин тому +12

      ​@@花XOIRoman concrete.

    • @kbotev
      @kbotev 6 годин тому +1

      At that point Debian is Institution.

    • @pulkitkrishna8809
      @pulkitkrishna8809 6 годин тому +1

      When Ubuntu gets rid of it, Debian will follow. Money matters.

    • @slaapliedje
      @slaapliedje 6 годин тому

      ​@@pulkitkrishna8809No. Ubuntu has nothing to do with Debian except being based on Debian...

  • @andrina118
    @andrina118 8 годин тому +212

    I am a longtime Debian user. Apt is what pulled me in and it's never really let me down

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  8 годин тому +37

      It's just dependable and solid

    • @andrina118
      @andrina118 8 годин тому +5

      @@TheLinuxEXP And when you compare it to Windows Update....!

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому +15

      ​@@andrina118comparing any updating system on Linux to Windows Update is a joke! (Windows Update sucks!)

    • @andrina118
      @andrina118 7 годин тому

      @@cameronbosch1213 Of course! I moved to Debian from RedHat & .rpms after reading an article in a print magazine about apt(shows how long ago that was) and being tremendously impressed by it's simplicity and ease of use

    • @tracktornator
      @tracktornator 7 годин тому +14

      ​@@cameronbosch1213My favourite part of windows update is when it says "Getting Windows ready. Don't turn off your computer." But then crashes for an hour until you have to turn off your computer 😂

  • @5I6
    @5I6 6 годин тому +198

    I respect Linux Mint a lot for working on making things work for people, not jumping into the trend.

    • @catoflado4977
      @catoflado4977 4 години тому

      Flatpak doesent work for people? I prioritize .rpm on opensuse, but why is flatpak bad?

    • @Sezamn
      @Sezamn 2 години тому +3

      @@catoflado4977 sandboxing

    • @UncleJemima
      @UncleJemima Годину тому

      ​@@catoflado4977idk if flatpak is "bad" as much as it has some downsides. ones I know of:
      - it's mostly only useful for desktop apps, not system or CLI apps (though this may have improved recently?)
      - installations take up more space
      - some Flatpaks have a reduced feature sets compared to their native packages, even "official" ones, and it's not always clear that this is the case
      - it's not always clear when a Flatpak was packaged by the app creator vs some random 3rd-party (though some app stores are starting to address this)
      - it co-mingles application, configuration, and user files, which can make backups difficult, especially for large programs like games
      - themes do not work very well out of the box
      - Flatpak permissions don't work as well as other systems (like Android, for example) and most users would need a separate program like flatseal to manage them
      - the attack surface is larger when multiple (and older) versions of dependencies are used
      - Flatpaks homogenize distros, in a way, by removing power from distro maintainers and consolidating the app ecosystem

    • @lfox02
      @lfox02 Годину тому +2

      @Sezamn Depends on who you ask. I'd say being a storage hog is a bigger problem.

    • @5I6
      @5I6 Годину тому

      I didn't say that flatpack is bad, That's a different thing.​@@catoflado4977

  • @oShinobu
    @oShinobu 7 годин тому +155

    I appreciate Linux Mint so much for doing what's sensible and not jumping on every bandwagon. With other distros like Ubuntu, you never know what kind of half-baked technology they'll introduce in the next version. Linux Mint gives me peace of mind. Flatpaks are cool, but knowing I can still rely on deb packages is awesome.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому +2

      I don't like that they seem to be not liking flatpaks, but it's still better than Ubuntu.

    • @花XOI
      @花XOI 7 годин тому +1

      They're sort of like Valve of Linux.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому +1

      ​@@花XOISort of, but I don't really like the LM community that much anymore.

    • @oShinobu
      @oShinobu 7 годин тому

      @@cameronbosch1213 Nothing is preventing you from using Flatpaks on Mint, they just don't shove it down your throat. I use Flatpaks too when it's more convenient.

    • @花XOI
      @花XOI 7 годин тому +2

      @@cameronbosch1213 me neither but i have no reference since I'm not in that community. I'm just baffled for the massive funding for it.

  • @AliYar-Khan
    @AliYar-Khan 7 годин тому +31

    I switched to linux and choose mint as my first desktop and I am not disappointed

  • @therealherbzy
    @therealherbzy 6 годин тому +58

    If there is a DEB package I will use it over any other installation method. It just seems more reliable and less likely to give me weird issues when the app is running.

    • @codytebaldi
      @codytebaldi 4 години тому +7

      Same, it's always my first resort.

    • @meeponinthbit3466
      @meeponinthbit3466 4 години тому +5

      Same. Learning the details/backend of Flatpacks to troubleshoot issues is a steeper learning curve than the miniscule effort I've ever had with Deb packages.

  • @wilko2
    @wilko2 8 годин тому +166

    Of course Linux Mint is the GOAT

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому +2

      *Was

    • @Starlok007
      @Starlok007 7 годин тому +5

      ​@@cameronbosch1213 Why was ?

    • @xbizydown
      @xbizydown 7 годин тому +1

      Mint is L

    • @Yuta_18.
      @Yuta_18. 7 годин тому +12

      Linux Mint devs are absolute gigachads 🗿🗿🗿

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому +2

      @Starlok007 Because they're community is turning into the gatekeeper like idiots that people new to Linux shouldn't have to deal with.

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 5 годин тому +14

    One of the problems I have with Flatpak, Snap and AppImage alike is that they're all sandboxed, at least kind-of. You can disable the sandbox for certain Flatpaks IIRC, but in the normal case these apps get their own virtual filesystem that makes files appear in weird spots or not at all.

  • @snap6sic6
    @snap6sic6 7 годин тому +47

    So many times I've tried to move to a Flatpak-only approach on my desktop machines because I believe in the vision, but every time I've run into some annoying permissions issue, application feature that can't work in a Flatpak environment, or some crap GUI. So much of the user experience with Flatpak still sucks, I'm glad to see new tooling being built around ol' reliable deb.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому

      Deb on stable releases feel old.

    • @MoonJuice-p9q
      @MoonJuice-p9q 7 годин тому +8

      if flatpak don't work for one thing, you can just install a deb package in a container and have it work just fine. thats the nice thing about it, you can install any package type on top of the main system and not have to worry about messing up the main system. something goes wrong just whipe out the container and start again no harm to thebase

    • @dis0nancia
      @dis0nancia 6 годин тому +1

      In my case, using Debian, the arrival of Flatpak has been a blessing.

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 8 годин тому +50

    I thought I read: "Keeping Dead Packages Alive"

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  8 годин тому +20

      Haha well, some people might think that's the case :D

  • @jpardoa94
    @jpardoa94 7 годин тому +63

    WTF i was waiting for it to release to do a clean install, got tired of waiting and did the wipe yesterday, installing LM22.0, and turns out it released today lmao
    The timing is almost comedic

    • @nml5536
      @nml5536 7 годин тому +6

      always. 😂

    • @LightningSnake
      @LightningSnake 6 годин тому +5

      well, I think Mintupgrade will help in some few days

    • @SocialCreditFarmer
      @SocialCreditFarmer 6 годин тому +1

      I was waiting too, but installed 22 a week ago because I couldn’t wait to get rid of windows.

    • @aarizshaikh1379
      @aarizshaikh1379 6 годин тому

      Same here I was just turning my laptop on to install 22 lol

    • @StefenTower
      @StefenTower 3 години тому +3

      It doesn't appear 22.1 is fully out yet (probably still in final QA testing) but once it is, Update Manager will automatically upgrade you.

  • @peterp4037
    @peterp4037 6 годин тому +24

    Linux mint and zorin os are the only two distros that could help bring the masses closer to linux. They work out of the box and easy to use.

  • @spectre.garden
    @spectre.garden 6 годин тому +11

    It seems to me that people think that snaps and flatpak are in direct competition with packaging systems like deb. But in truth they are different approaches. It doesn't make sense to imagine switching to not using something like deb. The point of flatpak and snap is to simplify delivery. It does not allow for efficiency, strong security, or tight interoperability with other snaps and flatpaks. Official deb packages are vetted for stability, security and interoperability were appropriate.

  • @DicksonTimScotland
    @DicksonTimScotland Годину тому +1

    glad to see another distro that isn't jumping on the "containerised distribution is the only way" bandwaggon. The more large distro's that sill use their own packaging, the more likely that projects will still provide methods for other packaging which is great.

  • @Little-bird-told-me
    @Little-bird-told-me 6 годин тому +9

    Linux mint is the best Distro for everyday use. Its so lightweight and apps open so quickly and the whole setup is so well designed. Although I dual boot PopOs because of the tiling WM

    • @bosmanka
      @bosmanka 5 годин тому

      Why not implement implement tiling in LM. It’s not popos only

  • @Star_Kay
    @Star_Kay 6 годин тому +9

    I am long time LMDE user, I appreciate it so much and all the work people put behind it.

  • @mchenrynick
    @mchenrynick 52 хвилини тому +2

    I'm glad that Mint is sticking to it's simplicity and stability. With Windows 11 shoving telemetry and A.I. onto everyone, this is a great O.S. to mitigate to =)

  • @ravagingwolverine
    @ravagingwolverine 59 хвилин тому

    A very handy overview. I've used Mint a lot over the years. I've had to go away from Mint for a few reasons for some of my machines for various reasons. One of them has wi-fi issues with Mint, though I'm tempted to investigate that again. I do have my parents on Mint and it's great for them. For me, the big news in this rundown is the integration of color temperature control. About a decade back, I had really bad insomnia and light sensitivity, and color temp control was essential once I learned about it. It's an extremely high priority for me for anything with a screen now. Of course, I discovered Redshift and SCT back then, but those don't work as well as they used to and the transition to Wayland will eventually be a problem. That's why I started to play around with KDE again in the last couple of years after I learned they integrated color temperature settings into the desktop which made it more reliable and viable for Wayland. It's excellent seeing that happen for Cinnamon as well. I've come to like KDE in the distros I've been using, but I'm more familiar with Cinnamon. It will be good to have more options, especially when the Wayland transition is complete. It will be interesting to see what the other desktops end up doing.

  • @thefanboy3285
    @thefanboy3285 3 години тому +3

    11:45 not to mention, softwares that are built "for Linux" natively are most of the time built for debian based distros as Debian is the most renowned and stable distro out there. At least, from my experience as a linux user of 2 years. There are simply some softwares that are not yet available on flathub or have an unmaintained appimage version and a maintained .deb version.

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 8 годин тому +28

    Fedora: "What we MINT was separating the GOAT from the SHIPPED!"

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  8 годин тому +9

      Hahah oh no the acronyms have gone too far now 😂

  • @subarulenz1470
    @subarulenz1470 7 годин тому +16

    After a year of being distro hopper, I settled at Linux Mint. It felt so great.

  • @PenguinByte
    @PenguinByte 7 годин тому +9

    4:50 and it automatically lifts, when the sun- Linux Mint also now has uh, power modes!

  • @n-steam
    @n-steam 6 годин тому +8

    I get the idea of flatpaks/snaps. They're easy and convenient, something your grandma could do. But I'd only ever use them as a last resort, they're too bulky and wasteful.

    • @Cyco_Nix
      @Cyco_Nix 6 годин тому +3

      They are not my first choice and Snap would be my last, but there are times that the Flatpak is a much newer version and works better than native due to dependencies. I have very few that I use, but I do check before just installing native.

    • @xxedgelord420xx4
      @xxedgelord420xx4 5 годин тому

      Its only wasteful when you use it for less than 5 apps. When you get everything with flatpak like on bazzite its the same as native packages

    • @tusux2949
      @tusux2949 5 годин тому +2

      Same, but they have their advantages. Everything in that flatpak is in one place, everything you need to run it is in there and uninstalling it is a breeze since it's just one file, doesn't break anything and leaves no leftovers when removed. It also doesn't make you upgrade dependencies on your main system when you don't need to/want to - you may be running an older version of a dependency on your system for stability but the flatpak can use bleeding edge inside - your system is safe but you get the increased performance for that flatpak. And if it breaks you just remove it wihout consequences. Flatpaks have their uses even if you dislike them.

  • @motoryzen
    @motoryzen 6 годин тому +3

    Just want to thank the Linux Mint team has done all they can do and are out of ideas to innovate whatsoever, they surprised me in a pleasant way
    I swear they just keep improving this operating system little by little consistently like fine wine without all the sugars and carbs but still all the great tastes

  • @JonteRabe
    @JonteRabe 6 годин тому +3

    When I was new to Linux I thought .deb files, which I could download and find on most websites, were the equivalent to Windows installation files😅

  • @05Matz
    @05Matz 2 години тому +1

    Ooh, nice. Lots of improvements I'm excited for!

  • @cyniczny
    @cyniczny Годину тому

    Huge props for Mint, it was my intro distro back in the days.
    Now waiting for new LMDE ❤

  • @ipshitshaha7244
    @ipshitshaha7244 5 годин тому +6

    Mint Cinnamon is the first distro i suggest to any new linux user. I love cinnamon and appreciate the devs' efforts to make it better...

  • @cubeskywalker4953
    @cubeskywalker4953 4 години тому

    Nice update! Thanks for covering it! I'm looking forward to upgrading.

  • @ccroy2001
    @ccroy2001 5 годин тому +5

    I just switched to LM late last year. Cinnamon on my main laptop and MATE on a chromebook I converted to Linux via the "chrultrabook" project. Last year I did a bunch of distro hopping. If I relate linux desktops to real world desktops. Gnome is the desk of that coworker that is fanatical about having a desk that looks like maybe no one sits there it's so empty. KDE is like a desk that has its own distractions built in like a phone dinging, adjustable lighting, height, and an espresso machine. Cinnamon and LM MATE is like my actual desk, I have my papers here and there that I need to see (I'm messy by nature) to act on, but no fancy features to distract.

  • @LightningSnake
    @LightningSnake 6 годин тому +10

    Yes, it is still the GOAT, and giving users easier options to install things is the best way to go

  • @kocokan
    @kocokan 7 годин тому +31

    Linux mint is boring, and boring is good for mainstream adoption

    • @randomcloudinsky
      @randomcloudinsky 7 годин тому +10

      Atleast they are self aware now. They are fixing the looks slowly

    • @mikespangler98
      @mikespangler98 6 годин тому +8

      Yes boring is good. Tax time coming, I don't need to fight the OS and the IRS at the same time. 😊

    • @VeitLehmann
      @VeitLehmann 5 годин тому +3

      This is on point. That's why it's the distro that people install on their parents' old computers when they luckily can't upgrade to Win11 or the most recent macOS version. I did, they are happy, and I'm happy as well because it just works.

    • @tusux2949
      @tusux2949 5 годин тому +2

      I love boring. Between my home PC on Mint and my work PC on Win 11, guess which one just fires up and goes and which one I have to tinker with constantly.... The roles have reversed in the last few years lol. Now everyone that says they use Windows because it's simple and just works, I just laugh in their face. Then get sad because they don't know any better. Hopefully the day for the Linux mainstream desktop is not too far now.

  • @ISSAMBENTALEB
    @ISSAMBENTALEB 4 години тому +2

    Imagine Linux distros turning 100% to flatpaks or snaps, the iso file would be 20GB easy.

  • @thegreatboto
    @thegreatboto 6 годин тому +1

    Deb/apt packages are great even if older. Apt is reliable and just about any guide or git repo for setting up random things involves either a deb package or an apt install line. Been playing around with Fedora lately and sometimes I can just sub in dnf for apt and things work, but there's plenty of packages that either are named different or just don't exist under dnf leading to further monkeying around to get whatever missing project dependencies you need installed.

  • @StaceyAyodele
    @StaceyAyodele 7 годин тому +1

    I love Linux Mint. I use the XFCE edition because it's more customizable than Cinnamon. Being able to have multi-row window lists is a must for me.

  • @geodad4782
    @geodad4782 7 годин тому +2

    I’ve been a Debian user since the Ubuntu Unity Amazon ad debacle.
    I liked the apt tool as well as the .deb file type because they seem to be EVERYWHERE.
    At some point, I switched the repos in my daily driver to unstable, so I get newer packages.

  • @Feier_Salamander
    @Feier_Salamander 6 годин тому +2

    The move to snap was the reason for me to move from Ubuntu to Debian. Deb will not die :D

  • @wertor666
    @wertor666 6 годин тому +3

    Stuttering during video playback wasn't fixed (yes, vaapi is enabled and working). It's a main reason why I can't choose Mint. Probably it's Cinnamon or gtk problem (adressed many times on the forum). I would be pleased to use it. Moved to plasma on different debian based system.

  • @abhishek_k7
    @abhishek_k7 Годину тому

    after much of distro hopipng, Im now on linux mint and it just works. i dont have to worry about things suddenly breaking or not working. its a great distro

  • @c5on
    @c5on 5 годин тому +1

    That sound amplifier sounds useful to me.

  • @VeitLehmann
    @VeitLehmann 5 годин тому +1

    I guess one major reason for preferring Apt over Flatpak is that they prefer GTK3 over GTK4 apps. With Apt, they have control over which versions to ship and can intentionally keep older versions or ship forks, i. e. continuations of the last GTK3 version of an app. Makes sense for GTK3-based desktops, which all of Mint's desktops are. So this is my favorite distro for Cinnamon, Xfce4, and Mate. For GNOME and KDE, I prefer Fedora right now, since it always ships the most recent version without having a rolling base that requires more attention.

  • @Xqzitd
    @Xqzitd 8 годин тому +10

    Please, can you make a video about system resource monitoring on Linux. Preferably about utilities with GUI on Arch Linux. I just don't know. I can't find a direct utility or a center or just a program, a very extensive, multifunctional, multifunctional program. There are a lot of them, but I don't know which one is the right one, and in your video there will at least be a top one where you can choose. I just surfed many sites and didn't find that one. So far I'm using this system-monitoring-center, but I feel like it's really missing. The same thing, WHICH ARE CURRENT AND WHICH ARE UPDATED.
    I just collect databases from basic applications. I would like you to make a video about office programs. This is a separate video. I also searched many sites and it is not clear. My database will consist of 2 programs libreoffice and onlyofiice, well, if necessary, there are pdf mupdf viewer and ocular. The result is that you are an experienced guy and have more knowledge. What exactly is needed in the video I would like you to make a big top with a selection of programs THAT ARE CURRENT AND UPDATED.
    And this is important, the same as in those texts, but about something else. Make a video about disk editors or disk management. Well, in short, so that there is also a large top of CURRENT PROGRAMS and so that they are extensive, so that there are many functions.

    • @kidslovesatan34
      @kidslovesatan34 8 годин тому

      If Nick doesn't agree to your request, I would suggest asking your question on an Arch forum.

  • @MattMcCullough
    @MattMcCullough 16 хвилин тому

    I absolutely love Linux Mint. My go to distro

  • @skelebro9999
    @skelebro9999 7 годин тому +11

    what happened at 4:49? what was that cut?

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  7 годин тому +12

      Dammit, it’s the second time this happens. Feels like there might be an issue with Resolve at that point, where it cuts parts I didn’t ask it to cut. I’ll check.

  • @RedFire998
    @RedFire998 5 годин тому +1

    a lot of QoL on things that made me go with a different distro, really nice to see Mint getting better.
    The only thing that I would really love to be resolved is the awful way notification sounds work in Cinnamon and by extension Mint. Being stuck with one global sound for all notifications even though the apps have their own sounds for them (Steam, Discord for example) is just so stupid. I either have to turn off Cinnamon notifications so I can hear the sounds, or I have the visual notifications but same sounds for everything.

    • @EnderShiru
      @EnderShiru 47 хвилин тому

      I believe you can go to sounds and specifically turn off the notif sound that cinnamon plays. It's been a while since I've checked but I believe it's there.

  • @rocstar3000
    @rocstar3000 Годину тому +1

    Mint and EndeavourOS are the best distros for beginners imo. Mint for something stable, endeavour if you want rolling release. Well there's also Bazzite for handhelds but that's more niche

  • @mr.alkenly889
    @mr.alkenly889 Годину тому

    The only reason I didn't use Linux mint originally is that Redshift didn't work on Wayland, so I'm glad to see that they have added that :)

  • @abunk8691
    @abunk8691 7 годин тому +2

    Thanks Nick!
    I will probably redo my Mint install since 22.1 is out as the upgrade from 21.3 is still borked for me. I'll probably rewatch this video before I do so for a review of what changed even though there's not much major stuff.

    • @pyepye-io4vu
      @pyepye-io4vu 7 годин тому

      Don't do the 21.3 -> 22 upgrade, there were many problems in Debian / Ubuntu packages. Too many package changes (due to the 2038 bug) and Ubuntu 24.04 shipped a bit half-baked. In fact you might want to wait 1-2 more years, your 21.3 is still good until April 2027.

    • @abunk8691
      @abunk8691 7 годин тому

      @pyepye-io4vu I attempted the 21.3 to 22 upgrade and I know there's issues. That's why I just mentioned it as "borked" because I did not expect there to be so much unresolved dependency conflicts due to the changes upstream from Ubuntu 24.04. I plan to do a clean install either to Mint 22.1 (or maybe LMDE for some FrankenDebian fun) after I'm finished dealing with my PC's hardware gremlins.

  • @warthunder1969
    @warthunder1969 5 годин тому

    Well said, and a great review. (Mint user for 3 years and I completely agree with your assesment)

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому +16

    4:49 Excuse me, wtf!? (Editing error?)

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  7 годин тому +25

      Yeah, I need to take a look at this. I know for a fact I didn’t mess that cut up, so it’s gotta be a Resolve error where it doesn’t display the cut where it’s supposed to be.
      Happened in the previous video too. It seems to cut about half a second too soon compared with where I clicked, but only when I add a transition or a sound effect

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому

      ​@@TheLinuxEXPTime to contact DaVinci with a bug report...

  • @יובלהרמן-ח2ד
    @יובלהרמן-ח2ד 12 хвилин тому

    Love your work mate, thx for the vid

  • @finitecrystal
    @finitecrystal 3 години тому +2

    Debian itself is the only other distro that hasn't ditched the packages for common desktop software. It's great to know that Linux Mint is keeping it alive too.

  • @Royaleah
    @Royaleah 7 годин тому +6

    Deb is so much better than snap. I have to keep removing firefox and reinstalling it after it starts to crash on startup after doing a refresh. Not a fan of snap crap.

    • @frankhuurman3955
      @frankhuurman3955 5 годин тому

      I actually had so many issues getting browser automation working with the freaking Firefox snap yesterday. Used to be run & done with selenium but now I needed an hour to configure stuff to get things working (and trying to apt install always gets the @!@%&^#@ snap version instead of .deb).
      Once this SSD dies I'm stepping away from Ubuntu.

    • @Root__314
      @Root__314 4 години тому

      How did you manage to install the Debian Firefox? I’ve tried numerous times but always just succeeded in wasting my data and it defaulting boneheadedly to snap again mid-install

  • @Aluminio_siete_tres_siete
    @Aluminio_siete_tres_siete 7 годин тому

    I love using LMDE, it just feels so polished and clean, 10/10 better distro out there for desktop.

  • @ChrisSears_KY
    @ChrisSears_KY 5 годин тому

    In 2001 or 2002, one of the other graduate students at my university tried to sell me on Debian. His selling point was how much easier and newer APT was compared to Slackware packages or RedHat RPM's. He was right, but I was too invested in Slackware to change. Time marches on.

  • @samuelitooooo
    @samuelitooooo Годину тому

    As a Debian and KDE user (I'm on Q4OS rn), I appreciate this

  • @WhatzHappeningNow9
    @WhatzHappeningNow9 7 годин тому +4

    I see Mint as Debian plus, feature updates are conservative but stable. Reliable distro.

  • @Marshall1914
    @Marshall1914 7 годин тому +10

    I'm never switching away from LMDE

  • @kresimirlukin7543
    @kresimirlukin7543 4 години тому

    I am using Linux since 1998, apparently I am not a beginner :) but still using Mint on one of my computers, because I know it will not let me down

  • @shadyKING057
    @shadyKING057 4 години тому

    +rep for Proton ad. Amazing apps

  • @sevenfacedsin
    @sevenfacedsin 7 годин тому +1

    I tested this release on an external NVME. Installed Nvidia drivers, bottles, and installed Cataclysm Classic. Double the performance of my Windows 10 IoT LTSC install.
    I’ll eventually be switching.

  • @JestyJoshua
    @JestyJoshua 5 годин тому

    I wish the mint team would focus on the debian edition and work together with sparky linux on their big deb package reop

  • @temari2860
    @temari2860 3 години тому

    One option I really wish Cinnamon had is aligning window titles to the left. Idk why it just always disturbs me when a header bar has completely nothing on the left and then a centered title.

  • @felixcosty
    @felixcosty 2 години тому

    Thanks for the video.
    Did a lot of Distro hopping over the years, and a month ago said to myself, why do I hop Linux Mint does 90% of what I want the other 10% is that it is not a rolling release like Arch and Arch will break at some point and got tired of dealing with that. So Linux Mint is the winner for me, it runs all my games thanks to Heroic games launcher, Steam is still not great for Linux, it does not allow the user to experiment on newly released games that are indy. I only game and youtube for 85% of what is done on my PC so very happy. Would say nasty words about Windows, but then my comment would be deleted.

  • @PaulG.x
    @PaulG.x 5 годин тому

    Linux Mint: Our new unique theme! Cinnagnome!

  • @marcofranchimoretti69
    @marcofranchimoretti69 6 годин тому

    🙂Thank you for keeping us informed about Linux “geopolitics.” Regarding the screen inherent in the background monitor, have you tried changing desktop wallpaper one differently from the other?

  • @williamp6800
    @williamp6800 19 хвилин тому

    As a Linux noob, package managers were one of the most enticing things. No more updating one app after another. Two commands in terminal and…. Done!!
    Why would anyone want to give that up?

  • @Hinipe
    @Hinipe 4 години тому

    Hey Nick, I really like your work. Do you also record videos in French (or would you recommend a francophone Linux channel, otherwise)?

  • @imacmill
    @imacmill 6 годин тому

    I went back to LM 21.x a few months ago, because several apps I use regularly (I now don't recall which ones), didn't work with 22. They may now, but I'm not risking the time and effort of upgrading my 3 PCs.

  • @fugoogle_was_already_taken
    @fugoogle_was_already_taken 7 годин тому +6

    Debs are never going away. Snaps are absolutely not an option on servers and neither are flatpaks. I would say, that most debian systems are servers anyway; so debs will always be the primary way of distribution software. At most, some graphical packages will move to flatpak, but that is still the better option for desktop apps anyway

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 7 годин тому +2

      That's a different area than the Linux desktop.

    • @fugoogle_was_already_taken
      @fugoogle_was_already_taken 6 годин тому

      @cameronbosch1213 it is really not :D distributions (and Debian specifically) dont have "desktop version" and "server version", if the are using the same repositories, they are the same systems, just with different packages installed. Server is just a "headless" desktop and desktops are just servers with DEs

  • @jcugnoni
    @jcugnoni 5 годин тому

    For me the best system is a LTS deb/apt base with some backported packages for critical security, optionnal recent kernels and mesa stack and options for flatpak for people wanting more recent apps. Mint does it really well in my opinion.

  • @carminator12
    @carminator12 5 годин тому

    I also have the memory of power management several years ago. Mandela effect? 😁

  • @Craft2guardian
    @Craft2guardian 7 годин тому

    I like flatpaks a lot, there is even a .flatpak file like deb packages!

  • @AllThruSmartphone
    @AllThruSmartphone 7 годин тому +1

    I don't know the ground behind so many people's love for linux mint cinnamon. Power mode, night light has been around in KDE for years now. I just wonder seeing so large fan base of Linux mint compared to KDE.

    • @pyepye-io4vu
      @pyepye-io4vu 7 годин тому +1

      It's not about features, it's about the people behind it and their sensible decision making, reliability, and the slow / small evolution. Mint users don't care too much about big exciting changes, or fancy shiny things. They like old / familiar which remains the same and slowly grows.
      If you don't get these things, try to look on the human side, not the technical side.

    • @bluealt4936
      @bluealt4936 7 годин тому

      Yeah I don’t see the appeal to cinnamon very much (wish it was more modern) but I still do see the appeal of Linux mint as it’s a very well designed os
      Would probably switch to Linux mint if they brought back a kde version

    • @Home-o2v4h
      @Home-o2v4h 6 годин тому +4

      Cinnamon is way stable than KDE.

    • @tusux2949
      @tusux2949 5 годин тому

      @@Home-o2v4h This. I was a KDE enjoyer years back but when I decided to finally switch my PC to Linux and saw what a mess has KDE become, I gave up on it. Seeing videos of people talking "Yea, this option doesn't work" and "this occasionally breaks but otherwise it's GREAT". Like, WHAT DO YOU MEAN, a DE must be rock solid, you use the damned thing basically 100% of the time... I'd take the most ugly and boring desktop ever if it works 100% and is intuitive. Eye-candy is nice and can tip the scales only if everything else is equal.

    • @Kamion008
      @Kamion008 3 години тому

      ​@@tusux2949that's why gnome is better than KDE, it's rock solid while on KDE you pry every day that something doesn't break (spoiler: il will eventually). Heck, even hyprland is more stable than KDE

  • @pinkflamingo8806
    @pinkflamingo8806 7 годин тому +1

    I’ve been messing around with Linux for 20 years, but have not found a distro I’ve been able to stick with as long as I have with Mint.
    Could partially be because of the exciting times we are in with Linux - especially gaming. But these days, I’m glad to have something kinda boring that just works

  • @konradzuse4778
    @konradzuse4778 5 хвилин тому

    Grrrreat decision to keep debs active and around!
    Native packages work just so much better than flatpaks or snaps, which are always confined and restricted in some way.
    Its weird enough when the password-manager doesn't work with you browser, because of missing process communication capabilities, or if Inkscape doesn't work with the installed Latex (can't type formulas!).
    It's a disaster if you are in software development, and your IDE can not communicate with local libs or the compiler..

  • @BytebroUK
    @BytebroUK Годину тому

    Where are you downloading the new Mint ISOs from? I'm still only seeing the old LTS versions - there must be a link I'm missing!

  • @Cyco_Nix
    @Cyco_Nix 7 годин тому +5

    It was never what I consider the GOAT. It is a great distro, and it is a solid choice for new users and those that want a solid distro that is boring by design, and I do not say that as a negative. That and just not a fan of Cinnamon. It is a mess of code underneath with the mish mash of GTK, old Gnome code, and their stuff. Also it is still too limiting for what I would consider to even put it in the discussion, but that is more of an LTS issue. Especially if you want to use the latest and greatest hardware. Just all depends on your situation.
    That said, there is no GOAT, as it is all far too subjective and there are a lot of great distros.

    • @Home-o2v4h
      @Home-o2v4h 6 годин тому +1

      Whats better than mint then ? In your opinion

    • @Cyco_Nix
      @Cyco_Nix 6 годин тому

      @@Home-o2v4h Like I said, it is more subjective. However, since I generally use bleeding-edge hardware, I primarily use Fedora or EndeavorOS. The great thing is if you are a Cinnamon fan, you can still use that or one of many other DEs, which I also like versus the basic supported ones like Mint.

  • @avidwriter2882
    @avidwriter2882 4 години тому

    I picked Mint 21.x last year after distro hopping when I first started my Linux journey. I went to 22 and I'll go to 22.1. Only Cosmic got me a little tempted but it's still a long way away and by then who knows maybe Mint 22.2 or even 22.4 is out?

  • @igoralmeida9136
    @igoralmeida9136 4 години тому

    i liked deb packages because i could install it like windows programs, just downloading a .deb file from the browser

  • @ijhuana
    @ijhuana 4 години тому +1

    Can somebody explain me the difference between system package and Deb packages please?

  • @jamzey7568
    @jamzey7568 3 години тому

    Using LM from old times till now, excellent OS, wise decisions, btw maybe u know when there will be release of LM 22.1? Btw thx for the awesome video.

  • @tripplehelix
    @tripplehelix 4 години тому

    XFCE has a power profile switcher in the power manager settings on 4.20

  • @JamesMcCloskey
    @JamesMcCloskey 5 годин тому +2

    I prefer Zorin OS.

  • @speed488
    @speed488 5 годин тому

    apt/dpkg was what made me leave the Debian based distros 8+ years ago. I've been using Arch since. Not a fan of Flatpacks either; I tend to install the packages instead, but I do stay away from the AUR though (I specifically pick handful of packages). I have much respect for Mint however, Nick is right IMO: it is the best all around distro for a newcomer.

  • @terryhayward7905
    @terryhayward7905 4 години тому

    Linux Mint 22 has changed the audio from PulseAudio to Pipewire, and that means that the Simple Audio Recorder no longer works I need to use it, or something else that will record only the sound from a game that I use but I have not found anything that works, so I have had to go back to 21.3

  • @therealslimaddy
    @therealslimaddy 6 годин тому

    We need distros endorsing appimages and one of the default formats.

  • @NathanClaasFan
    @NathanClaasFan 7 годин тому +3

    This was a great video

  • @Sunlight91
    @Sunlight91 7 годин тому +2

    Linux Mint is the business suit of distros. People have liked it for a hundred years and they will still do so in the next ones. It doesn't need to change drastically.

  • @catoflado4977
    @catoflado4977 2 години тому

    I think they should put their efforts into making flatpak better

  • @Pasta_watcher
    @Pasta_watcher Годину тому

    Oh shit, looks i have an upgrade to install ❤

  • @Root__314
    @Root__314 4 години тому

    Can you install the Deb Firefox version? I can’t seem to do it on Zorin. It always defaults to the snap irrespective of what the online guides say.

  • @appleleptiker
    @appleleptiker 7 годин тому

    Finally...
    I was waiting for 22.1 (No, I'm not complaining, before anybody thinks that.)

  • @MyReviews_karkan
    @MyReviews_karkan 5 годин тому

    Maybe I don't know and someone can educate me here? Why is everyone so hyped about flatpaks and pushing them so hard to replace the distro's repos and they don't even have dependencies and drivers to install if you need them? Am I missing something? You can't install dependencies for your distro as flatpaks if you ever needed them, right? You can only do that with snaps and the distro repos. I guess thank you to the mint team for keeping the .deb packages going.

  • @Skywalker3D
    @Skywalker3D 5 годин тому

    Will the split buttons for the pop up dialogues also affect my own gtk theme? i prefer the non-split ones personally

  • @05Matz
    @05Matz 2 години тому

    Pardon my ignorance, but aren't Flatpaks slower, more disk-space-consuming, semi-sandboxed 'portable' versions of programs with all their dependencies packaged in statically, most useful as a fallback if a system package of the software doesn't exist for your distro currently or is for some reason broken? Maybe I'm confusing them with my experience with appimages... but I've always used .deb packages whenever possible thus far.
    And I'll never use snaps! A single gatekeeper being able to define the one-true-version of a package with no practical means to re-target it to something else is antithetical to the whole point of the Linux ecosystem.

  • @averagemamil4523
    @averagemamil4523 5 годин тому

    Can you lean on Tuxedo for loaner and do a Flex review? Im interested in getting one 🤔

  • @Root__314
    @Root__314 4 години тому

    Firefox on Zorin seems to stress the system when watching a live video on a website and extending it to another monitor via HDMI. Is it because I switched to X11? Or is it because it’s a snap package that’s forced on the user?

  • @victor_hernandez_g
    @victor_hernandez_g 6 годин тому

    8:20 I didn't know 😅😂😂