This channel is only for bragging for James~Stop bragging, James will get 3 Best Defensive Player awards... In reality, he can't get it because he only wants to collect points and doesn't want to defend~
I would like 2 ask if you can do a simulation of Jordan and Lebron in the same era, 1984 and then the 2003, both of them at the same draft class. Just wondering what could be the outcome. Please🙏 2 scenarios of their career if they're playing at the same time. Excited if there will be a rivalry.
Kevin Johnson, Detlef Schempf, Reggie Theus, and Arvydas Sabonis when he was young and a force to be reckoned with & considered to be one of the greatest Bigs in the World (when he wasn't allowed to come here and play due to the Cold War and Russia not allowing it.) This is why you can't have these debates with most younger cats.
@@MsBearhotJordan averaged 29pts,6ass,7reb against the bad boy pistons, Thomas averaged 21-10-4. And it was Dumars who marked Jordan, nice try dumb ass hahahaha
I agree. These results don't hit the same as they would if all other players/teams remained the exact same and just switch MJ & LJ. With the entire league different than what it was changes everything and it's not a good comparison.
He annouced that in the very beginning of the video, but thru out the video you can tell he is not familiar with previous Era and were just going off rating.
I’m sure he is because he says MJ’s rookie season was absolutely disgusting but C MJ’s rookie year is nearly the same as Bron’s except for the 3P%. I’d rather see Mike Korzemba do this as he’s able to objectively commentate on it
Jordan was a great guard in a center driven league, and bron was a great forward in a guard driven league. Swapping their positions literally gave them both more competition😭. Environment matters so much.
@@innviewtheinnview8150 it's obvious you have no idea what you're even spewing, go ask jon starks himself who owned who 😂! ua-cam.com/video/7wViXAJH4Go/v-deo.html
"literally have done nothing to improve their roster" and i'm like they drafted PRIME Sabonis! Detlef, Kevin Johnson and Derrick Mckey! Theus still there. Thats already more help than Jordan had! That's a developing super team already 😂Bron always needs more help!
"Year 3 and the Bulls literally haven't done anything with their roster." Retained HOFer Schrempf, Sabonis and added Kevin Johnson. You can't be serious
@@ytzavier5969 90's. Much more competitive and physical and all around skilled (no JUST offense). The big men especially. Greek Freak is the only one I could see doing really well in that era but his numbers would still take a hit against defenders like Shaq, Zo, both Wallace's, Hakeem etc. He's only strong to these stretch 4's with no real move portfolio. He just had problems with soft @ss Embid the other night so Shaq and Hakeem would drop 50 on buddy lol. Much easier to score when you're not tired from REALLY playing both sides of the ball and there's minimal physical contact from play to play. It's almost like glorified shootaround now up until the playoffs.
@@dfjr1990 @ryoth Literally almost all the top defenders of all time are from the 90’s lol smh. Only one ranked that high from the 2000’s is Dwight Howard and he beat Lebron in the playoffs
I think it would've been a pointless situation honestly. If you put a team oriented player like Bron on the Bulls would've been completely unfair. Jordan would've simply had better numbers in scoring because Bron didn't have a team until Miami.
I swear, y’all online look incredibly stupid. Knowledge of the past isn’t an insult. If niggas knew tennis, all they’d be sayin is “yo, Rafa got as menny French Opens as Sampras got majors. Pete is trash!! FOH. 1 French semi?? Nah son.” Shit is a disgrace, honestly. Learn the sport you claim to love...
If you switched their careers and gave Jordan all of the HOF players Lebron had, Jordan would have "Not 1, Not 2, Not 3, Not 4, Not 5, Not 6, Not 7, Not 8, Not 9, Not 10, Not 11, but at least 12 Titles"!!! Jordan haters would complain that with all that talent, Jordan had too much Help... yet they don't say that about Lebron... even thou he DID have all that Talent playing with him and STILL couldn't win more!!! lol!!
Stop hating on westbrook. He is a walking triple double. I'm not sure if you ever played basketball, but that's a big deal. and he won MVP and should/could have won at least 2 more. It's fashionable to throw around Russel Westbrook hate, but it's unfounded. He is an NBA Great and will be a hall of famer.
Any simulation in which Gilbert Arenas wins multiple MVPs over Michael Jordan is clearly broken. You should demand a refund… and please don’t shoot me, Gilbert 😂
He was really hoping Lebron would have his first championship before his 7th season, before MJ, and he's so disappointed in the stats and numbers.. This was Hilarious. I will always feel bad for Lebron cause so many people always say he went to 10 finals and Lost 6 times with only 4 rings. But hey it's better than not winning a ring at all.. I mean it's almost impossible to win 6 rings and go undefeated in the finals 6 for 6 in the Championships like Jordan and to have 2 three peats is crazy.
@@robertjackson3408 facts bruh the 3 ball wasn't a big thang back then but I was bless to watch mj and LeBron play and I thank LeBron is way better then mj.
Poor kids. If I hadn't seen MJ's whole career in real time myself I probably wouldn't understand it either. The man was just a more terrifying opponent than LBJ.
@@cano21 Not trying to join the argument, but I think you just didn’t understand what he’s saying. Jordan needed Scottie to escape the 1st round, while LeBron led a horrible Cavs team to the finals with practically no help at all; not even practically because he literally had NO help. There’s a reason one of the big what if’s in history is “what if the Cavs succeeded in building around Bron.”
MJs career stats 31 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists per game on 50% shooting and 51% effective field goal including all years. LaBron best season 29 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists a game on 49% shooting and 53% effective field goal % so MJs better with stats in my book only stats I think MJs the goat and always will but lbj will always be a close second
Jordan was actually really good at threes. The only reason his three point stats where low is because he never really shot 3’s in his time. But the little he shot the percentage was good.
Why do you think LBJ deteriorated a lot faster physically in this simulation? Because he had to face real physical defense during the 80´s and 90´s, not the Mickey Mouse one he´s been facing at least since 2010.
@@innviewtheinnview8150 If you're talking to me you should read my other post. I said simulating a switch of eras between MJ and LBJ is not gonna work to determine who's the GOAT. What I explained was putting them in one given era playing on opposing teams to see who comes out on top. That way this controversy would be over. Now you catch my drift or Do you want me to explain to you like a toddler who's still learning to speak?
@@RemyDaMenace If you're talking about LBJ you're mistaken, defense rules had changed drastically when he first came to the NBA. Hand-checking has not been allowed since 2003. So saying he would have been just as good as back then as he is right now is B.S. Why don't we place both mega-stars at any given era on opposing teams? That way we'd had a clear picture on who's the GOAT
Lebron would have been crying for more phantom fouls, because on how rough the 90's era was. Probably would have boosted up his turnover stats too. Now that real scenario.
I think u should change the shot tendency to put the player on the tendencies of the league for teh each era. On the MJ's era, 3 points aren't so used and the game are based on the Centers position. On the Lebron's era, has several better guards like Kobe, Wade, and others and the shot perimeter are larger than MJ's era. If the shot tendency of MJ wasn't changed, he has more competition on his position than Lebron has on the past. Sorry for the mistakes, my english isn't so good. Peace from Brazil for all of you.
Also, the way he did this was so trash. It's a great idea, IF YOU HAVE ALL THE COMPETITION ON THEIR RESPECTIVE TEAMS. pointless if Lebron isn't facing the same challenges with the same Bulls team, otherwise this is a waste of time even from a simulation standpoint
At one point the Kings used the Warriors as a training camp. Mitch Richmond and Chris Webber we cherry-picked from the Warriors. So seeing Clay and Steph was actually based on historical events.
Here’s something that will fuck with your mind: If Jordan never started playing until 2003, all these other guards in the league that idolized him growing up might not even be in the NBA. Swapping players into other era’s would also effect the players that came after them.
If Jordan did really play in Lebron’s era (The era of superteam collaborations) by his 5th or 6th year he would be playing with another 2 or 3 all stars, and then would go on to win like 7 titles in a row hahaha
I love all of the super teams that happened in the modern NBA during Jordans career. I learned no player should ever play for the New York Knicks on 2k!
I don't think LeBron could've have had success in Jordan's journey. LeBron is great but he joined great players to get success. I don't think he could've developed Scottie Pippen to win a championship. He would have still been a force in 1984.
Only dummies use that weak arguement against leBron... If Jordan had the same team he got drafted with all his career and the organization didnt do much. Every fan would be begging him to leave and find some stars to play with. Yall mad Bron didnt decide to rot in Cleveland and probably retire with 1 or 2 rings.
@caliba that makes no sense, great players create dynasties. Bron jumps ship to chase chips, and constantly craving stars around him. And if he can't connect stats and winning, then it does no good. Lebrons insecurities with younger players, and impatience has been his downfall, leaving the Cleveland and Miami, and now LA behind the curb on rebuilding cause he's not happy and not able to win consecutive chips. Never seen anyone in pro sports this coddled, it's ridiculous
Yea it really would made more sense to me if the roster was the same on the teams with all the other still on there same teams and just did a switch with and M.J and L.B.J and kept the same competition but still a fire 🔥 vid bro keep dropping
Wait hold up do people really say that lebron didn’t have good teammates like Jordan bro lebron has had Dwayne wade, chrish bosh, Kyrie Irving, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, Anthony Davis, Russell westbrook, ray allen, Kevin love compared to Jordan he had pippin and Rodman and that’s basically it what are people on about brown has had many more and way bette r teammates than jordan
Too bad you had to make a sim to say all that… only if. Priceless yet in real time tho real life along with that it didn’t and 6 for 6 means the goat perfect.
You should make a video like this where Lebron James was drafted by the Lakers in 2003 and got to team with Shaq and Kobe. It'd be interesting to see how many championships they would get.
Crackup that the simulation has him deteriorating in his 15th season but that’s one of his best all time seasons and is still popping off 5 seasons following 😂
The only thing I'll say about this that I think impacted the result and that should've been considered is that if you really swapped the two the changes to the league that occurred for LeBron should've carried over into the Jordan portion. So for example, Shaq should've been in Portland and never been in LA with Kobe. Regardless really dope concept and I enjoyed it!
@@trcashotz yeah you can't leave it to 2k to do anything right, they even broke curry's ai, he missed sh*t ton of 3 pointers, draymond and wiggins makes more 3s than him
Interesting takes. Only problem is a lot of the players after MJ, modeled their game after him. Who did Kobe and Wade look like if they were playing in the same era? In fact, Kobe is the elder here. Crazy sim. Switch Wilt and Kareem. Kareem and Bill. Wilt and Bill.
Jordan would’ve figured it out alot earlier just like he did in his era, keep in mind that kobe and wade learned alot from him and motivated themselves of real life MJ so in this simulation they would not be that good
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You have to run the program 100 times and average it out
This channel is only for bragging for James~Stop bragging, James will get 3 Best Defensive Player awards... In reality, he can't get it because he only wants to collect points and doesn't want to defend~
I would like 2 ask if you can do a simulation of Jordan and Lebron in the same era, 1984 and then the 2003, both of them at the same draft class. Just wondering what could be the outcome. Please🙏
2 scenarios of their career if they're playing at the same time. Excited if there will be a rivalry.
How did you do this? I’m trying to do it as well.
The bulls won there first championship in 91
U can tell he's young he doesn't realize how good some of those players were lol
You see how he disrespected Isiah Rider😳
Kevin Johnson, Detlef Schempf, Reggie Theus, and Arvydas Sabonis when he was young and a force to be reckoned with & considered to be one of the greatest Bigs in the World (when he wasn't allowed to come here and play due to the Cold War and Russia not allowing it.) This is why you can't have these debates with most younger cats.
He didn’t realize Magic Johnson was on Atlanta lol
He also doesn't recognize that in the previous ERA, Lebron would not have eligible for the draft until 1987.
Did u expect him to be an old head after seeing his face?
Chris Paul owning Michael Jordan is the funniest thing I've ever heard hahaha
DUMARS WAS MJ TOUGHEST DEFENDER 🤷🏾♂️😄😄
@@dee1708 and what's your point? Dumars was an All star, two time NBA champion. If one of the greatest of all time acknowledged him what's so funny?
Thomas owned Jordan and was worse than CP3 ever was🤷♂️
@@MsBearhotJordan averaged 29pts,6ass,7reb against the bad boy pistons, Thomas averaged 21-10-4. And it was Dumars who marked Jordan, nice try dumb ass hahahaha
Also Lebron being defensive player 😂
You should SIM it again for each player in their actual draft class and team. See what that does to their stats.
I agree. These results don't hit the same as they would if all other players/teams remained the exact same and just switch MJ & LJ.
With the entire league different than what it was changes everything and it's not a good comparison.
Yeah these super teams they’re up against is ridiculous. I haven’t gotten to Jordan yet, still watching
You can tell he's a LeBron fan by his commentary 🤣
He annouced that in the very beginning of the video, but thru out the video you can tell he is not familiar with previous Era and were just going off rating.
I’m sure he is because he says MJ’s rookie season was absolutely disgusting but C MJ’s rookie year is nearly the same as Bron’s except for the 3P%. I’d rather see Mike Korzemba do this as he’s able to objectively commentate on it
As if you can't tell who is a Jordan fan by ones commentary .
@@JrRimp MJ-28.2 ppg LBJ-20.9 ppg in rookie season
He also mistakenly gave away in the 1998 season that he's changing the settings. He cut off injuries to help Lebron. Joke😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Strange how lebron was playing fantasy league type style but Jordans few first season were against teams the opposition actually played for
Jordan was a great guard in a center driven league, and bron was a great forward in a guard driven league. Swapping their positions literally gave them both more competition😭. Environment matters so much.
Facts ✊🏽
I wouldn't say that for Lebron he's dominated for so long people might forget he went against some hall of fame big men in the beginning of his career
@@chrisakokoh9118 Facts bron has faced more diverse opponents
@@chrisakokoh9118 just off hand before bro turned 30 he had to go up against KG, Duncan and Dirk the 3 best power forwards of a gen
@@ballnshyt5437 right and now when he older, the game way faster and he gotta worry bout niggas pulling up from 30 ft😂
only in a broken simulation would chris paul ever own mj 😂
Mj sucks 💯🤷🏻♂️this simulation is rite ! The reason y I say that is because lebrons stats were super consistent like he is rite now
😂 facts my guy
He was getting owned by Jon Starks man. Be real jordan played in a center heavy error. Plus it’s only simulation lol stop being so critical.
@@innviewtheinnview8150 bro what you smoking
@@innviewtheinnview8150 it's obvious you have no idea what you're even spewing, go ask jon starks himself who owned who 😂! ua-cam.com/video/7wViXAJH4Go/v-deo.html
What truly matters is Tmac got a ring with the Magic
This
YESSS!
Just wish he’d gotten a ring for real
The magic got two rings I was like okay lol
Wish it was real
😂😂😂 His commentary is funny & you can tell buddy lacks information about players from previous eras.
"literally have done nothing to improve their roster" and i'm like they drafted PRIME Sabonis! Detlef, Kevin Johnson and Derrick Mckey! Theus still there. Thats already more help than Jordan had! That's a developing super team already 😂Bron always needs more help!
Jordans career was the best sporting career ever witnessed by mankind
Even though lebron’s is better?
Guys remember, this is 2k sim, don’t be starting up a while argument about who’s better just based on this lmao
This just proves chris Paul and Westbrook own jordan💀
@@Wesimp4Dutt 💀lmfaoo🤣🤣
Lol facts
All The Young Niccas def about to 😂
You're using the wrong version of Michael Jordan
3 things in the world that’s always guaranteed death, taxes and Chris Paul owning Jordan 🤣
Dude, Jordan is the reason all the NBA plays how they do, JORDAN changed sports world wide.
Lol. Nope.
Jordan didn't change sports world wide. He only made basketball bigger.,
Nah Steph James harden
@@MBAM02 😂😂😂😂
@@MBAM02 They are a drop in the bucket compared to what Magic, Bird and Jordan did for the NBA. The NBA has lost popularity the last 10 years.
"Year 3 and the Bulls literally haven't done anything with their roster."
Retained HOFer Schrempf, Sabonis and added Kevin Johnson. You can't be serious
Hes a casual, he doesn't know what he's talking about
He makes youtube vids about a video game (no hate), and is clearly in his early 20's. How much were you expecting him to know?
More grateful than ever to have actually witnessed the 90's with my own eyes lol
So who you think better
@@ytzavier5969 90's. Much more competitive and physical and all around skilled (no JUST offense). The big men especially. Greek Freak is the only one I could see doing really well in that era but his numbers would still take a hit against defenders like Shaq, Zo, both Wallace's, Hakeem etc. He's only strong to these stretch 4's with no real move portfolio. He just had problems with soft @ss Embid the other night so Shaq and Hakeem would drop 50 on buddy lol. Much easier to score when you're not tired from REALLY playing both sides of the ball and there's minimal physical contact from play to play. It's almost like glorified shootaround now up until the playoffs.
@@Maestro-sf6nr thats crazy considering everything after 2000's was harder
@@Maestro-sf6nr bruh 90s defense soft
@@dfjr1990 @ryoth Literally almost all the top defenders of all time are from the 90’s lol smh. Only one ranked that high from the 2000’s is Dwight Howard and he beat Lebron in the playoffs
Would like to see the simulation with the correct teammates and oponents.. i know it would be hard, but who knows..
Yeah this is dumb because when we say switch them on teams most people mean with pippen and Rodman still on bulls 🤦🏻♂️ this video is dumb
Me too
I wanna C dat 2 G, make dat happen 4 us big dog 🐶
yeah the idea was good but without the teammates/opponents this video is kind of useless
I think it would've been a pointless situation honestly. If you put a team oriented player like Bron on the Bulls would've been completely unfair. Jordan would've simply had better numbers in scoring because Bron didn't have a team until Miami.
Really enjoying that the 2K vids are back!
Lebron's second season you had Detlef Schrempf! That guy guy could flat out play for them super sonics teams of the 90's
Only old bball heads would know that .
I swear, y’all online look incredibly stupid. Knowledge of the past isn’t an insult.
If niggas knew tennis, all they’d be sayin is “yo, Rafa got as menny French Opens as Sampras got majors. Pete is trash!! FOH. 1 French semi?? Nah son.”
Shit is a disgrace, honestly. Learn the sport you claim to love...
1985 Detlef was pretty raw.
that sonics team was nasty as hell they won 64 games
Not sure how they have not won, With Sabonis, Schrempf, K. Johnson.... even Theus was there and Hodges on the bench! Crazy
If you switched their careers and gave Jordan all of the HOF players Lebron had, Jordan would have "Not 1, Not 2, Not 3, Not 4, Not 5, Not 6, Not 7, Not 8, Not 9, Not 10, Not 11, but at least 12 Titles"!!!
Jordan haters would complain that with all that talent, Jordan had too much Help... yet they don't say that about Lebron... even thou he DID have all that Talent playing with him and STILL couldn't win more!!! lol!!
17:23 LeBron Forever Owns Toronto 💀😭
You know the game is broken when Westbrook won multiple MVPs and beat Durant and Jordan duo. Like whuuuuut?! 😂
Yeah, low IQ Westbrick beats a squad with MJ & KD….yeah, okay.
You know the game is broken when bron win defensive player as many times as he did . Like whuuuuut
And when MJ struggles to win a championship and gets OWNED by Chris Paul
Stop hating on westbrook. He is a walking triple double. I'm not sure if you ever played basketball, but that's a big deal. and he won MVP and should/could have won at least 2 more. It's fashionable to throw around Russel Westbrook hate, but it's unfounded. He is an NBA Great and will be a hall of famer.
Any simulation in which Gilbert Arenas wins multiple MVPs over Michael Jordan is clearly broken. You should demand a refund… and please don’t shoot me, Gilbert 😂
It’s a game
This is funny, if jordan played in this era he would own it like he did the 90s
He was really hoping Lebron would have his first championship before his 7th season, before MJ, and he's so disappointed in the stats and numbers.. This was Hilarious. I will always feel bad for Lebron cause so many people always say he went to 10 finals and Lost 6 times with only 4 rings. But hey it's better than not winning a ring at all.. I mean it's almost impossible to win 6 rings and go undefeated in the finals 6 for 6 in the Championships like Jordan and to have 2 three peats is crazy.
in an expansion era why not
JORDAN IS THE GOAT! NO QUESTION, NO DEBATE
So nobody’s gonna talk about the fact that Jordan averaged 30 on 11.1 percent from 3?! 😂😂😂😂😂
Slim beats Gib, and thats a fact! Casual.
Nobodys gonna talk about lebron's flop? Recruit? Walk out?
When Jordan played the three ball was not a big thing
@@robertjackson3408 facts bruh the 3 ball wasn't a big thang back then but I was bless to watch mj and LeBron play and I thank LeBron is way better then mj.
Yet MJ still holds the FINALS record for most 3s in a half
Be interested in seeing this with both guys in each eras draft class. Be funny if they ended up on the same team, probably in New York lol
Might have to try that!
@@JiedelGaming you should i would definitely love to watch that
LeBron would just be Scottie Pippen lol
Would never happen, jordan had too much pride for that.
@@gip1279 I mean the game doesn't take that I to account lol
This was way too much fun to watch.
Lebron winning DPOY is nothing short of laughable.
It takes an alternate world for bron to be the goat lol
Bron would never be that good
It's also impossible to program MJ's killer instinct.
No its not. Not a real game. Just put in a cheat code. MJ is a Cheat code irl.
You completely and conveniently fail to notice that Jordan was injured with the Red Cross the year he got swept in this simulation
29:40
Wow Chris Paul would never take a Jordan and Durant team out 😂
Haha. That was wild. I have nothing against the guy, but KD and Jordan...
This guy got no friends. He could spend all week doing this SIM shit and he really believes it
3:33 it's like you didn't notice the Hawks had Magic Johnson, the way you were surprised the Hawks won lol
dude just glossed over that lol... and the fact the bulls added schrempf and Kevin Johnson should be a big deal
Lol fr
Poor kids. If I hadn't seen MJ's whole career in real time myself I probably wouldn't understand it either. The man was just a more terrifying opponent than LBJ.
Yes so much that he couldn't make it out the first round without Scottie 😂😂. No way Jordan doing anything with those Cavs
@@familychannel7050 LOL! And Lebron's NEVER had help on a championship team? Get outta here with that foolishness! 🤣
@@cano21 never said he didn't have help.
@Family Channel So... then what's your point?
@@cano21 Not trying to join the argument, but I think you just didn’t understand what he’s saying. Jordan needed Scottie to escape the 1st round, while LeBron led a horrible Cavs team to the finals with practically no help at all; not even practically because he literally had NO help. There’s a reason one of the big what if’s in history is “what if the Cavs succeeded in building around Bron.”
Obviously he is a bron fan 😂😂😂
Finally Barkley, Stockton, Malone, and Kemp get rings.
When people play too much NBA2k rather than playing the exact game itself. You Can't simulate greatness that's what separate them from other players
Jordan cards are all criminally underpowered in 2k
nah he just had a shorter prime than Bron
To be fair…. They got Russ career spot on 😂😂😂😂😂😂
LBJ had a team like dream team in the name of LA Lakers but still suffered a humiliating defeat.
I mean he’s still 3 years old he can’t do everything by himself
LeBron played with more all-star teammates than jordan.
No more debates, just appreciate each greatness
really?
Jesus I needed these videos back in my life 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
I would love to see this simulation with the same teams as of real life! Still fun though
Same
love to watch this..same!
@@iluvcakes19 you like twizzlers?
@@kadomz7055 you like twizzlers??
@@wheresmyluv yes
MJ became real life James Harden!!!
James harden played 0 defense..
It wasnt broke when LeFlop took 8 mvps but is broke when MJ hits them 3's haha
The same exact thing would happen on both sides.. They both didn’t have the TEAM to take it to that next level that early in their careers
"he's got these great individual statistics, just not a lot of rings yet" sounds like bron in real life. Steph's got as many
Huh? He has 4 chips. How’s that not a lot?
@@kaekae1782 i mean there's like 5 other people in the league with that many so ..
FAAAACTS
But how many MVP?
Steph is better too.
Now this is Peak JDL content
Come to think of it.. this is maybe possible if mj was still born in the year 1963 playing in this era as the old man..
I've just realized that LeBron was born the same year MJ was drafted, and MJ retired the same year LeBron was drafted.
MJs career stats 31 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists per game on 50% shooting and 51% effective field goal including all years. LaBron best season 29 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists a game on 49% shooting and 53% effective field goal % so MJs better with stats in my book only stats I think MJs the goat and always will but lbj will always be a close second
This is accurate because LeGm would've traded pippen in real life after the Detroit game 7 meltdown 🤣
I can't believe this, MJ with KD, Ibaka, and Biyombo lost to Russel Westbrook in the Finals WTF
Watching the same schedule sim every time tripped me up lol.
Everybody’s the GOAT until Chamberlain steps on the court.
Bro that blazer team is insane 🤣🤣
It amazing how 2k makes lebron good at everything he is bad at
His free throws were the same tho
Bron's FTs are the ding in his game, not a gr8 3pt shooter either, everything else he's good.
2k makes Jordan shoot 50% from 3 and you get mad with LeBron stats 😂😂😂😭
Jordan was actually really good at threes. The only reason his three point stats where low is because he never really shot 3’s in his time. But the little he shot the percentage was good.
@@paulesparza6522 actually he shot 20% that’s why he didn’t shoot that much
Why do you think LBJ deteriorated a lot faster physically in this simulation? Because he had to face real physical defense during the 80´s and 90´s, not the Mickey Mouse one he´s been facing at least since 2010.
You do know he played one year after jordan and avg 20 ppg since he was 18. He reached the finals before 2010 -- so you contradict yourself.
@@innviewtheinnview8150 If you're talking to me you should read my other post.
I said simulating a switch of eras between MJ and LBJ is not gonna work to determine who's the GOAT.
What I explained was putting them in one given era playing on opposing teams to see who comes out on top.
That way this controversy would be over.
Now you catch my drift or Do you want me to explain to you like a toddler who's still learning to speak?
He played sa same 20. Lol
@@RemyDaMenace If you're talking about LBJ you're mistaken, defense rules had changed drastically when he first came to the NBA. Hand-checking has not been allowed since 2003. So saying he would have been just as good as back then as he is right now is B.S.
Why don't we place both mega-stars at any given era on opposing teams? That way we'd had a clear picture on who's the GOAT
@@luisrodriguez-mb7ccimagine if LeBron got to retire two different times and reload and recover his body like Jordan did
Lebron would have been crying for more phantom fouls, because on how rough the 90's era was.
Probably would have boosted up his turnover stats too. Now that real scenario.
He’s right about Kareem having a case for the G.O.A.T.
This simulation is really bad, Jordan dominated the entire nba, and lebron dominated the weakest east in history
Someone with LBJ freakish abilities in that era would have really been interesting
🤣🤣🤣
They had someone with more freakish ability and heart. He was named Michael Jordan. He dominated, but you know, for real.
I think u should change the shot tendency to put the player on the tendencies of the league for teh each era. On the MJ's era, 3 points aren't so used and the game are based on the Centers position. On the Lebron's era, has several better guards like Kobe, Wade, and others and the shot perimeter are larger than MJ's era.
If the shot tendency of MJ wasn't changed, he has more competition on his position than Lebron has on the past.
Sorry for the mistakes, my english isn't so good.
Peace from Brazil for all of you.
Also, the way he did this was so trash. It's a great idea, IF YOU HAVE ALL THE COMPETITION ON THEIR RESPECTIVE TEAMS. pointless if Lebron isn't facing the same challenges with the same Bulls team, otherwise this is a waste of time even from a simulation standpoint
Sim lost me when Steph won 6th man of the year and MJ starting shooting 60%+ from the field lmao
At one point the Kings used the Warriors as a training camp. Mitch Richmond and Chris Webber we cherry-picked from the Warriors. So seeing Clay and Steph was actually based on historical events.
Here’s something that will fuck with your mind: If Jordan never started playing until 2003, all these other guards in the league that idolized him growing up might not even be in the NBA. Swapping players into other era’s would also effect the players that came after them.
MJ is not an AI, he is the programmer. Still, MJ GOAT!!!
I wonder how this would have played out if the Bulls/Cavs had the exact players the same other than Lebron/Jordan
Exactly what I was thinking. Lebron is the better Player tho in any scenario 😂
@@darealtripp2267 bro not any scenario 😂
@@darealtripp2267 he won 3 rings 3 less then jordan 😂
If Jordan did really play in Lebron’s era (The era of superteam collaborations) by his 5th or 6th year he would be playing with another 2 or 3 all stars, and then would go on to win like 7 titles in a row hahaha
Wow the basketball gods hate bron in 2k too😂
I love all of the super teams that happened in the modern NBA during Jordans career. I learned no player should ever play for the New York Knicks on 2k!
2k definitely needed a team loyalty attribute in eras. IT, magic, etc
This was very fun to watch..I was fully engaged the entire video... keep up the good work
I don't think LeBron could've have had success in Jordan's journey. LeBron is great but he joined great players to get success. I don't think he could've developed Scottie Pippen to win a championship. He would have still been a force in 1984.
Only dummies use that weak arguement against leBron... If Jordan had the same team he got drafted with all his career and the organization didnt do much. Every fan would be begging him to leave and find some stars to play with. Yall mad Bron didnt decide to rot in Cleveland and probably retire with 1 or 2 rings.
@caliba that makes no sense, great players create dynasties. Bron jumps ship to chase chips, and constantly craving stars around him. And if he can't connect stats and winning, then it does no good. Lebrons insecurities with younger players, and impatience has been his downfall, leaving the Cleveland and Miami, and now LA behind the curb on rebuilding cause he's not happy and not able to win consecutive chips. Never seen anyone in pro sports this coddled, it's ridiculous
@@patriarch3056 great franchises create dynasties you can only do so much alone
@@wr31rf he can't do anything literally without other superstars
@@wr31rf which is why he once asked Curry to play on the same team....Curry immediately said nah I'm good lmao
Yea it really would made more sense to me if the roster was the same on the teams with all the other still on there same teams and just did a switch with and M.J and L.B.J and kept the same competition but still a fire 🔥 vid bro keep dropping
Wait hold up do people really say that lebron didn’t have good teammates like Jordan bro lebron has had Dwayne wade, chrish bosh, Kyrie Irving, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, Anthony Davis, Russell westbrook, ray allen, Kevin love compared to Jordan he had pippin and Rodman and that’s basically it what are people on about brown has had many more and way bette r teammates than jordan
Too bad you had to make a sim to say all that… only if. Priceless yet in real time tho real life along with that it didn’t and 6 for 6 means the goat perfect.
You should make a video like this where Lebron James was drafted by the Lakers in 2003 and got to team with Shaq and Kobe. It'd be interesting to see how many championships they would get.
Or how their huge egos clashed and they became the so called super team that didn't work. Shame Karl Malone never got a ring.
@@maniac1075 nah, fuck Malone. He knocked up a 13 year old when he was in college.
@@halowarrior917 He did?
The 🐐 would dominate any era let alone completely annihilating the big man era with extreme physicality.
Right, LeBron has nothing on mj.
@@chasebeecham12 🤡🤓
The 90s were not that physical, that’s a media lie
@@timjarvis2422 🤡🤓
@@1andOnlyKB you cannot make an argument for MJ. There isn’t one. LBJ is better in every single way
Crackup that the simulation has him deteriorating in his 15th season but that’s one of his best all time seasons and is still popping off 5 seasons following 😂
The more physical style of play of the era would have definitely worn him down faster.
20 years have passed and everyone's been practicing Jordan moves since the 1999,
Therefore what 🎶🎶🎶
Just goes to show what I have said for years. If Jordan had to play against guys today he would just be another guy. Evolution is a real thing.
The only thing I'll say about this that I think impacted the result and that should've been considered is that if you really swapped the two the changes to the league that occurred for LeBron should've carried over into the Jordan portion. So for example, Shaq should've been in Portland and never been in LA with Kobe. Regardless really dope concept and I enjoyed it!
Curry 0 finals mvp vs lebron
At the very least you've got to try get the rules for each era as they were.. youd see lebron1984 ave. 10pts and jordan2003 averaging 50+
Why isn’t any close to averaging 40? Y’all just talk out of your asses sometimes
2k might be the most accurate thing ever😂😂😂
Most inaccurate😂
@@elijahzamora4742 i was about to say it lmao
if you put jordan in our era, he prob wins 5-8 chips
@@theonlygoodonehere2259 I don't think it's fair for either since it's a 2K sim
@@trcashotz yeah you can't leave it to 2k to do anything right, they even broke curry's ai, he missed sh*t ton of 3 pointers, draymond and wiggins makes more 3s than him
you should put pippen,kerr and rodman on chicago
LBJ only went team hopping in this timeline without being LeGM. xD
Dog those lebron team records made no sense I would see an insane amount of L’s and then they would be the 1 seed with like 60 wins😭
he simmed the clippers pov during the season bc u can see the team top right so there was a lot of losses.
U should do more rebuilds with the nba eras thing I think it would be cool
Interesting takes. Only problem is a lot of the players after MJ, modeled their game after him. Who did Kobe and Wade look like if they were playing in the same era? In fact, Kobe is the elder here. Crazy sim. Switch Wilt and Kareem. Kareem and Bill. Wilt and Bill.
Dwade was very unique and had his own style, Kobe was a carbon copy but im sorry...Dwade is his own player.
It's crazy this man playing a video game and cut lebron James career short before he actually do 😂😂😂
Commenting on the results of a simulation without knowing the factors used in the simulation is just a simulation 😂
1:10 lebron had way more good teammates then Jordan
Was bout to comment this lol 😂
Fax Lebron played with more all stars than Jordan did
Relax Jordan fanboy it’s just 2K 💀
Jordan would’ve figured it out alot earlier just like he did in his era, keep in mind that kobe and wade learned alot from him and motivated themselves of real life MJ so in this simulation they would not be that good
All Facts!
both are the GOAT of their time
@Cadillac Kadafi
LeBron has had the greatest nba career
@@antionewalker4081lmao hell no
Smh.... RUN IT BACK hahaha He got the Kobe treatment with Shaq hahah man that no Phil factor was LEGIT. Great video tho 👌🏽
Chris Paul OWNS MJ!!!