Just wanted to share: I was struggling with this moc bc Aventurine hp and the dino bot toughness so i decided to use mono quantum Seele and dot + an in progress Acheron with hh. But it turns out that fx is better switched with hh as her ult can hit dice. Even got an achievement for everyone winning their dice gambles. I ended up using seele sparkle ty hh first half since all enemies already had quantum weakness and more seele ults plus some basic attacks to advance made breaking weakness much easier. It was such a different experience with a 164 sparkle with slower seele and then using seele advance to catch up plus a few kills. Seele e0s0, sparkle e0 with s5 bp, ty with s1 ddd, hh qpq. Then second half, I brought acheron bc I wanted to try her out. But I kept getting 17-19 cycles remaining and then I realized I had given kafka's 9 spd lightning sphere to sparkle to boost her speed and that was why e2s1 kafka, e1s0 bs, e0s1 Acheron and e0s0 hh were clearing so slowly. Even with Acheron trash relics, it should not have been so slow. Lesson learnt: check your relics before starting if you have been switching them around.
Acheron 0 cycle is definitely possible. I saw one with pela,SW and Bronya. Seele 0 cycle would require sparkle, bronya with insane spd tuning to make her go 6 times per cycle(without resurgence on phase two),it would be easier once Robin comes out then you can just use Tingyun, Sparkle and Robin for Seele team
Holy...the power of Jingliu E1, 2 hit 1M damage. Good run, always can learn something from your 0 cycle video. However...feels like Boss Adventurine is just made for counter 0 cycle player, that RNG dice is really troublesome.
Your builds quite upset me even though i don't really feel angry, i got some of your specs on my chars but they still can't do what you did. Great job and keep it on.
Many player bring sustain against aventurine and ended up with 4-7 cyclce to finish. But for the few whom do not bring sustain, they 0-1 cycle it. Fighting against aventurine really bring the gambling vibe in it.
Is it me or the last memory of chaos stage music just so much better. The ost isn’t officially released so idk the name but it’s more funky and cooler.
Yeap, with the light cone further buffing 24% damage which Jingliu lacks, is one of her better support. The last ultimate Jingliu did around 480k ish, 57k from Tingyun and RuanMei break did around 80k
The second half run is insane. The best thing I can do for current MoC is 6 cycle with the team like this: First half: Seele E0S0, SW E0S0, Sparkle E0S1, Lynx E4 (3 cycle) Second half: Jingliu E1S1, Bronya E1S1, Ruan Mei E0S0, Huo huo E0S0 (3 cycle). The first time I saw your video, I thought you'll run out harmony character for the second half because you use Bronya and Sparkle for the first half. I can't think you can do that with only TY, RM, Pela for the second half. I really want Seele and Ruan Mei E1S1 but I doubt about my luck.
and they said Jing Liu has fallen off lmao. bout time someone do a 0 Cycle with Jing Liu on the current MOC, she still a top tier DPS and will always be my goto ICE dps
Anyone saying JL has fallen off is an idiot, she was the best when she came out and has only been rivaled by Acheron. MHY community in general is very reactionary and bad at evaluating character power
Bro saw one comment saying jingliu has fallen off and acted like the entire community said that. You probably mean seele She has not fallen off one bit, she the second strongest after all and my E1 jingliu is also future proof for future hard single target content.
are there any reason why the T-Rex never gets the crimson knots on my runs? I've rerun it like more than 10 times and it always goes the big chunky boi .-.
Bronya and sparkle on 150 because theres slow mechanic against the fatty. You cant run 134 on them, once you get slow you wont get the extra cycle. Sparkle go faster than bronya, then you can have your dps to move a lot. Well, is more of real time event on how to use them. I also took sometime to think to get it done.
Is Jingliu's S1 worth it or is it better to go for E1? I'm close to pity on both character and LC banner, so i have to option for either. Though I am looking to get Boothill, so I was thinking about getting her S1 and then try for Boothill, but if her s1 isn't worth it I might just wait.
E1 boost Jingliu single target scenario damage and increase cdmg, ease up relic grinds. For dps to hit decent performance, is always recommend to go for their signature light cone. If you already have no issue getting content done using her, pull for new unit is still the better choice.
It's around 10-18% dmg increase from Aeon. The difference between Aeon to her sign will be depend on how much you can break the enemies with Jingliu. More often weakness break->lesser dmg upgrade. That means, you'll feel comfortable to bruteforce element if you have her sign. For E1, you will feel the difference only when you meet single target scenario. If you can meet her best scenario like Aventurine boss, the difference between E0 to E1 around 40%-43% dmg increase. Otherwise, it's less than 10%. I think her LC is more valueable because E1 is quite situational.
@@hirasawayui8783 That's good to know. I was thinking the same about her E1. Good for a single target, but doesn't help her get to a single target scenario much faster, assuming there are 2 elites or something. I was hoping the LC was the better/more consistent option anyway. I appreciate the info 😊
Ken, not sure if you'll read this, but i want your opinion about acheron, mine is E0S1 under what circumstances should i get atk orb? Should i gear my nihility supps with penacony planar? My best boots on acheron is spd boots with 14 crit rate, should i keep it or just run slow acheron and try getting better atk boots? I only have huohuo and natasha as my healer (recently got bailu but i cant prioritize building her first because she doesnt cleanse), what sustain units should i get? I dont have gepard either
For plannar orb, once you on 4 set debuff set, atk orb is 3% better than elemental orb. Well just use whichever has better subs. Penacony set is for elemental not path. The only one that can use penacony in acheron team is kafka. The reason why silverwolf is using it because i need the extra ER and speed. Acheron in MoC prefer atk boots more, especially if you have advance forward unit. Keep the speed boots as of now and grind the atk boots!
Ty for replying! I was just confused about the penacony planar because most people just run broken keel for most of their supps For the sustain part, yeah maybe i hope to lose my next 50/50 to gepard, i dont have enough pulls to get aventurine(unless he suddenly came early)
2:41 you could've used bronya skill on acheron then imediately use bronya and acheron ult so she benefits from both sparkle and bronya's whole kit at the same time
At 1:59 or so, if you really wanted to optimise you could’ve probably gone Sparkle Skill -> SW SW Basic SW Ult Bronya Skill -> Sparkle Sparkle Ult Sparkle Skill -> Bronya Bronya Ult Bronya Skill -> Acheron Acheron Ult b4 her turn starts to get all 3 ults and both Sparkle and Bronya skills off.
Wait, shouldn't Acheron gain 3 charges herself in one turn? 1 charge for his skill, 2 for the Cone of Light, and 3 for the MoC debuff. Why does it only gain 2 charges? BUG???
@@KenRurouni yeah I was wondering the same also I cannot get pela ult with just basic on turn one so my sp management can potentially suffer as well? but yeah the main energy part will be rough
its hard, for f2p player like me, i already sacrifice ruan mei banner for sparkle and acheron, now im stuck at two star on 12, then the worst part after watching this vid, my relic was trash
Need to consider the fact that fatty is going to slow you. You dont sit on 134 or 143, you will not be able to get your 2nd turn. As you can see on wave 2, when bronya or sparkle is lesser than those speed. Drake is going to move and regain it shield, is just 1 AV faster. Silverwolf i just slap eagle, around 153 will do, silverwolf still need to move before sparkle.
@@KenRurouni I just unlucky with speed substats, i see them ones in full moon, and i still need luck to roll them on upgrade...what happens even less time
for e0, you don't really run 2 harmony since the limitation of it. Lightning weakness, consistent crit and full debuff + buff for that sweet 1mil on the 4 target xD
depend on Jingliu speed, my speed need 183 or above. If your Jingliu is 0 speed, you can run 181 pela. No lesser than that for this rotation. If you have good eagle set, I would say around 166 eagle set will do as well.
6:13 was not expecting that ult to do 600k
The E1 matters
yeah without her e1 and s1 she wouldn't be doing that much damage unless it was the su
😮
There was also Ruan Mei Break
@@Vymperk even tingyun benediction does 56k 😭
E1 Jingliu dmg on single target is disgusting, she is the real hunt
meanwhile seele is more like a destruction character seele sucks whenever she can't trigger resurgence.
Yes, i am pulling for her e1 now, cant 10 cycle current moc
Yeah man, lunae is better than jingliu hahahahah
From my detective observations, i realised you played well. Enjoyed ❤
Glad you enjoyed!
That Pela speed is disgusting. I want it 😂
All the best for the Seele x Acheron 0 cycle. Really looking forward to it. ✨
daym ,aventurine doesn't even get the time to gamba 😂
No gamba! Be civil xD!
Just wanted to share:
I was struggling with this moc bc Aventurine hp and the dino bot toughness so i decided to use mono quantum Seele and dot + an in progress Acheron with hh. But it turns out that fx is better switched with hh as her ult can hit dice. Even got an achievement for everyone winning their dice gambles.
I ended up using seele sparkle ty hh first half since all enemies already had quantum weakness and more seele ults plus some basic attacks to advance made breaking weakness much easier. It was such a different experience with a 164 sparkle with slower seele and then using seele advance to catch up plus a few kills.
Seele e0s0, sparkle e0 with s5 bp, ty with s1 ddd, hh qpq.
Then second half, I brought acheron bc I wanted to try her out. But I kept getting 17-19 cycles remaining and then I realized I had given kafka's 9 spd lightning sphere to sparkle to boost her speed and that was why e2s1 kafka, e1s0 bs, e0s1 Acheron and e0s0 hh were clearing so slowly. Even with Acheron trash relics, it should not have been so slow.
Lesson learnt: check your relics before starting if you have been switching them around.
Tomorrow I’ll get Queenliu E1! Hope I get lucky. Love the run btw!
GL ! I’ll be going for her E1S1
Good luck good luck!
@@bones377 goodluck to us!
@@KenRurouni thanks!
Your Jingliu doesn't hit like a truck, she is literally the truck! 💯
I like ur video, because u explain those how it goes, it did'nt make me bad feeling at least
Glad you like the video!
memory of chaos ❌
mommies of chaos✅
😂
Replace Pela with Bronya and now you get a team truly befitting of the 2nd title.
@@cannibalman8175but Bronya is already with Jingliu💀
@@DosMainsServal you mean archeon ?
@@kittizon3. oh, sorry, yeah. Acheron
these 2 top tier dps never disappoint!
Tomorrow my Jingliu will be mine
All the best! Good luck!
All the best! Good luck!
Too good 🙏
Thanks a lot 😊
Can’t wait for her rerun today 🎉
Good luck!
Acheron 0 cycle is definitely possible. I saw one with pela,SW and Bronya. Seele 0 cycle would require sparkle, bronya with insane spd tuning to make her go 6 times per cycle(without resurgence on phase two),it would be easier once Robin comes out then you can just use Tingyun, Sparkle and Robin for Seele team
Damn, 185 speed on Pela
Amazing 0 cycle clear, this inspired me to pull E1 Jingliu and I got it 😊
Amazing! Gratz on getting e1!
Holy...the power of Jingliu E1, 2 hit 1M damage.
Good run, always can learn something from your 0 cycle video.
However...feels like Boss Adventurine is just made for counter 0 cycle player, that RNG dice is really troublesome.
Yea, if you go into dice phase is gg for 0 cycle.
I never thought I will see acheron and not enough damage in the same sentence.
Well when you force only 1 nihility on e0, that happen xD
Your builds quite upset me even though i don't really feel angry, i got some of your specs on my chars but they still can't do what you did. Great job and keep it on.
Can't wait for aventurine
Isnt it today? Cant remember xD
That's absolutely insane!
Cool! I just got Acheron, too 😊
Nice!
Many player bring sustain against aventurine and ended up with 4-7 cyclce to finish.
But for the few whom do not bring sustain, they 0-1 cycle it.
Fighting against aventurine really bring the gambling vibe in it.
Yeah and their run is rng(multiplier tries) doing this. They only upload successful runs.
If you don’t bring sustain, you either 0-1 cycle it or die
E1 Jingliu or S1? i have S5 5* from Herta shop. Is vertical invest on her worth it?
s1. e1 is situational. herta shop lc really good other units wont mind having it either .
Is it me or the last memory of chaos stage music just so much better. The ost isn’t officially released so idk the name but it’s more funky and cooler.
That pela speed is nuts😮
Zoom Zoom Pela!
god gamer
Glad you enjoyed the video!
this is e0 acheron dealing 1m… OUTSIDE OF BATTLE TOO
Is Ruan Mei actually that busted? I basically have the same jingliu, and I’m not hitting numbers anywhere near that
Yeap, with the light cone further buffing 24% damage which Jingliu lacks, is one of her better support. The last ultimate Jingliu did around 480k ish, 57k from Tingyun and RuanMei break did around 80k
I'm actually finding this MoC way easier to go through :)
Noice!
The second half run is insane. The best thing I can do for current MoC is 6 cycle with the team like this:
First half: Seele E0S0, SW E0S0, Sparkle E0S1, Lynx E4 (3 cycle)
Second half: Jingliu E1S1, Bronya E1S1, Ruan Mei E0S0, Huo huo E0S0 (3 cycle).
The first time I saw your video, I thought you'll run out harmony character for the second half because you use Bronya and Sparkle for the first half. I can't think you can do that with only TY, RM, Pela for the second half. I really want Seele and Ruan Mei E1S1 but I doubt about my luck.
Damn the Jingloo has very stacked stat. I have less 400 atk and 14 cr
Holy fuck the damage of JL's ult
The last hit is a combination of everyone damage. Tingyun skill, RuanMei break xD
and they said Jing Liu has fallen off lmao. bout time someone do a 0 Cycle with Jing Liu on the current MOC, she still a top tier DPS and will always be my goto ICE dps
Anyone saying JL has fallen off is an idiot, she was the best when she came out and has only been rivaled by Acheron. MHY community in general is very reactionary and bad at evaluating character power
@@deliro8758 yeah E1 s1 JL which fixed her single target damage to a boss like adventurine ,Very relatable lol
Bro saw one comment saying jingliu has fallen off and acted like the entire community said that. You probably mean seele
She has not fallen off one bit, she the second strongest after all and my E1 jingliu is also future proof for future hard single target content.
@@Idk-xr9pk She has been consistently in the Top3 meta comps for MoC for 7 months now. At E0
@@deliro8758 im agreeing with you lmao im not disagreeing, im just saying the video is misleading because a normal e0s0 JL would struggle a little
are there any reason why the T-Rex never gets the crimson knots on my runs? I've rerun it like more than 10 times and it always goes the big chunky boi .-.
Reset reset, rng is betch xD
8:02 HOW😭 185
Why did you use 150 spd on Bronya and Sparkle? even with wind set on SW - Also can u please give some tips on how they can be used well together
Bronya and sparkle on 150 because theres slow mechanic against the fatty. You cant run 134 on them, once you get slow you wont get the extra cycle. Sparkle go faster than bronya, then you can have your dps to move a lot. Well, is more of real time event on how to use them. I also took sometime to think to get it done.
those acheron relics 💀
185 speed on Pelageya Sergeyevna 💀💀
Is Jingliu's S1 worth it or is it better to go for E1? I'm close to pity on both character and LC banner, so i have to option for either. Though I am looking to get Boothill, so I was thinking about getting her S1 and then try for Boothill, but if her s1 isn't worth it I might just wait.
E1 boost Jingliu single target scenario damage and increase cdmg, ease up relic grinds. For dps to hit decent performance, is always recommend to go for their signature light cone. If you already have no issue getting content done using her, pull for new unit is still the better choice.
It's around 10-18% dmg increase from Aeon. The difference between Aeon to her sign will be depend on how much you can break the enemies with Jingliu. More often weakness break->lesser dmg upgrade. That means, you'll feel comfortable to bruteforce element if you have her sign. For E1, you will feel the difference only when you meet single target scenario. If you can meet her best scenario like Aventurine boss, the difference between E0 to E1 around 40%-43% dmg increase. Otherwise, it's less than 10%. I think her LC is more valueable because E1 is quite situational.
@@KenRurouni Thanks. I will go for her LC then. Works better for me since I can try for Boothill 😁
@@hirasawayui8783 That's good to know. I was thinking the same about her E1. Good for a single target, but doesn't help her get to a single target scenario much faster, assuming there are 2 elites or something. I was hoping the LC was the better/more consistent option anyway. I appreciate the info 😊
Use Sparkle to advance Bronya to Advance Acheron
Damn😂
Ken, not sure if you'll read this, but i want your opinion about acheron, mine is E0S1
under what circumstances should i get atk orb? Should i gear my nihility supps with penacony planar?
My best boots on acheron is spd boots with 14 crit rate, should i keep it or just run slow acheron and try getting better atk boots?
I only have huohuo and natasha as my healer (recently got bailu but i cant prioritize building her first because she doesnt cleanse), what sustain units should i get? I dont have gepard either
For plannar orb, once you on 4 set debuff set, atk orb is 3% better than elemental orb. Well just use whichever has better subs. Penacony set is for elemental not path. The only one that can use penacony in acheron team is kafka. The reason why silverwolf is using it because i need the extra ER and speed. Acheron in MoC prefer atk boots more, especially if you have advance forward unit. Keep the speed boots as of now and grind the atk boots!
Survival can be fire mc, gallagher, gepard or aventurine. If you dont have any of them just use any survival.
Ty for replying! I was just confused about the penacony planar because most people just run broken keel for most of their supps
For the sustain part, yeah maybe i hope to lose my next 50/50 to gepard, i dont have enough pulls to get aventurine(unless he suddenly came early)
2:41 you could've used bronya skill on acheron then imediately use bronya and acheron ult so she benefits from both sparkle and bronya's whole kit at the same time
Theres a reason not to, defense break is too valuable. Without it, even with sparkle bronya boost acheron dont do enough dmg to kill cocolia
goddamn bro
Is there anyway to do the first stage without sparkle and sw??
At 1:59 or so, if you really wanted to optimise you could’ve probably gone
Sparkle Skill -> SW
SW Basic
SW Ult
Bronya Skill -> Sparkle
Sparkle Ult
Sparkle Skill -> Bronya
Bronya Ult
Bronya Skill -> Acheron
Acheron Ult b4 her turn starts to get all 3 ults and both Sparkle and Bronya skills off.
you need to check the turn order... Sparkle pull SW, SW is not moving... haiya... Sparkle isn't bronya, the target you pull don't always move after.
I need E1 Jingliu ;-; next rerun
Nice run but it's called Crimson Knots not Crimson Heart
XD, oh yea hahaha
How come your pela only has 28% effect hitrate doesn't that make landing her ult a bit unreliable?
Yes, but i need the speed for the rotation. Since theres rng anyway on 2nd life of aventurine, I be like fk it and yolo
@@KenRurouni ah I see wow, purposefully adding another layer of RNG oof, that's some real dedication
Can i ask one question? You give the relics set Genius of brilliant stars to Jingliu only for the 4-pc effect?
Better substats
0:11 How did bronya come before sparkle when she has 150 spd and sparkle has 152?
Bronya have vonwacq planar set
Vonvaq!
Wait, shouldn't Acheron gain 3 charges herself in one turn? 1 charge for his skill, 2 for the Cone of Light, and 3 for the MoC debuff. Why does it only gain 2 charges? BUG???
Once you get the debuff stack to 6, you will not be getting anymore from the MoC buff.
185 SPD on Pela 😱
Zoom zoom pela!
esa jingliu todo broken
Sparkle rerun when 🥲🥲🥲
Haiya... is just a patch ago!
Bro, your e0s1 deal a lot more dmg than my friend's e6s5 :v
No way! Did they run the correct team!?
Dang pela's speed😂
she be zooming! Need that speed so that she can overtake Jingliu before Jingliu end the fight!
is there any alternative for ruan mei lc in Jingliu 0 cycle clear
Sadly no. Unless you can kill 2 IPC minion with Jingliu, you will not have enough energy for Pela at the start of wave 2 for this 0 cycle.
@@KenRurouni yeah I was wondering the same also I cannot get pela ult with just basic on turn one so my sp management can potentially suffer as well? but yeah the main energy part will be rough
How do you get Bronya to act first? I use the same spd as yours but my bronya act before sparkle and sw
she's on vonvaq!
its hard, for f2p player like me, i already sacrifice ruan mei banner for sparkle and acheron, now im stuck at two star on 12, then the worst part after watching this vid, my relic was trash
Theres 4* unit guide out there, wait for a few days maybe someone will post a video with the unit you have. Good luck!
I’ve never gotten above 150 on a single character lol every time I get speed it never rolls into it
keep all speed substats pieces. Regardless speed main stats or set effect, who know 1 day quintuple 15 speed rolls!
@@KenRurouni yeah I could definitely be more optimal with keeping pieces lol
In others chanel they have done 0cycle aven boss, with achrE0S0 and with all E0limited supp i hope you can do it so😆
If it's just acheron side is possible, issue will be the first half. First half need silverwolf really badly xD
Why Sparkle at 152 with 4pc hackerspace, bronya at 150 and SW at 160 with Eagle 4pc? arent they overcapping on speed?
Need to consider the fact that fatty is going to slow you. You dont sit on 134 or 143, you will not be able to get your 2nd turn. As you can see on wave 2, when bronya or sparkle is lesser than those speed. Drake is going to move and regain it shield, is just 1 AV faster. Silverwolf i just slap eagle, around 153 will do, silverwolf still need to move before sparkle.
5:27 holy, why pela has 2 turn there, hunt blessing buff?? 😳
Pela be zoom zoom, the power of 195 speed 🤣
That pela speed stats some unrealistic, i only have 1! Energy rope with speed and its 2...
I put my best rolled speed relics on her. She need to have at least 182 for this rotation to work xD
@@KenRurouni I just unlucky with speed substats, i see them ones in full moon, and i still need luck to roll them on upgrade...what happens even less time
your pela is too fast!! the intergalactic police squad will give you a ticket for that!! 😢
Pela zoom zoom!
Can I still do this without sparkles light cone, sparkles e1, and silver wolfs five star light cone?
Yup is fine, acheron side dmg is pretty much overflowed. Neee to be similar spd tho
@@KenRurouni oh awesome thank you! Yeah I can get the speed, I was just worried about not having those 3 haha
when the waifu is meta
Hsr know what they are doing 😏
How did you get one mil easily with two harmonies instead of 2
for e0, you don't really run 2 harmony since the limitation of it. Lightning weakness, consistent crit and full debuff + buff for that sweet 1mil on the 4 target xD
please pilot my acc on this MOC 12. I have E2 Acheron and I can't do it. My 2nd team isn't enough
Pela spd 185 O_o'
Pela goes zoom zoom!
is jingliu usually hit that hard bruh
E1 increment on just single target is massive.
very realisitc
until i see the supports
oh
same as genshin, suppork star rail, suppork impact!
What does e1 jingliu do?
E1 jingliu give you more cdmg, also the adjacent dmg from ulti will compress to single target if you use it against 1 enemy.
is 185 speed on pela necessary?
depend on Jingliu speed, my speed need 183 or above. If your Jingliu is 0 speed, you can run 181 pela. No lesser than that for this rotation. If you have good eagle set, I would say around 166 eagle set will do as well.
@@KenRurouni thanks. are these speed values taking into account ruan mei's speed buff?
Base speed.
97k on tingyun basic....
The powa of ruanmei break 😏
Remember, JL needs bronya to be good🤡
185 spd pela 💀
how do u even get 11 spd er rope dasdfasdasda???????????????
🤣 it was lucky. Zoom zoom pela
Pela is so trash OMG
You are worse if you don't realize how OP Pela is as a support / debuffer
Zoom zoom pela
185 speed pela