If one thing is for sure: the Russian Navy does not need a super-carrier. The concept of a small fleet of - lets say - 4-6 light carriers with 45.000 tons each, drones and a nuclear propulsion looks much more promising and would make sense.
indeed, this is the future, with advance weaponry fielded today, you gotta be small to avoid being a big target, this small carriers will do the same job like those american super-carriers but with more maneuverability, less radar signature and far better speed,,lets not forget maintenance, everytime a super-carrier is docked it costs millions and millions of dollars to refit and maintian at port, this small ones would costs less to maintain..the super-carrier is an obsolete system just like the main battle tank, just look at ukraine war, main battle tanks on both sides are not faring well, even suppose advance western tanks in ukraine having problems, but the smaller more agile light armoured vehicles are getting the job done in ukraine war on russia side and on the ukrainian side with there bradleys.
@@Bellthorian Yes - why not? 45.000t only, if there is a well-deck or maybe a hospital - would transform this carrier class to a naval version of a Swiss pocket knife.
Carriers are like yesterday’s battleships, they are impressive, they can project power against weaker opponents, but they are big sitting ducks when facing modern anti ship weapons, ranging from true hypersonic missiles, supersonic cruise missiles, long range cruise missiles, modern attack subs, especially when in the middle of some ocean the pressure NOT to use nuclear weapons is much lower - it just takes one warhead to slip through, but even with conventional weapons we have seen the limitations of western ADS, especially when saturated by larger salvos over extended periods. Carriers are nice for limited power projection and supporting amphibious operations against third tier opponents.
Russia's doctrine is purely defensive in nature, designed to operate regionally only. In addition to this the Russian economy simply cant afford power projection like the USA and China can so it needs to solve this problem asymmetrically. A brand new light carrier, that emphasizes drones and helicopters over aircraft seems to tick all the boxes to me, it allows Russia to expand its naval power significantly whilst staying within the constraints of its economy and doctrine. Lets not forget that hypersonic weapons have in my opinion made Carriers obsolete. I wouldnt be surprised if we see this proven soon.
@@Amukalalu unless you use slave labor to extract those resources you do. And out of all the military branches the Russian Navy has suffered the most neglect. All of Russia's naval infrastructure is in need of major modernization especially if it wants to start building modern bluewater ships. In my opinion, what russia is focused on right now is perfect for its needs, which is subs for power projection and coastal vessels for area denial.
@@mrhuffnpuff Money is just a representation of a commody, Russia has a thriving a agriculture sector, they have the resources to stand on there own. They don't pay their population in a foreign currency. They have a well educated and manageable population size. So they depend much on foreign exchange when compared to other countries like China. Plus they achieved success in releasing their first 28nm chip, bringing them closer to self independence. They can survive without the rest of the world
@@mrhuffnpuff Russia does not have global ambitions like the US, there major priority is defense of the homeland, that's why there naval fleet is largely made up of Corvettes for short range missions.
@@Amukalalu Yes, i said Russia's doctrine is defensive already. But still, in order to expand it's military might across all sectors year in year out, it does need the economy to back it up otherwise it will fall again just like the Soviet Union did, and just like America most likely will.
The problem is not with the current carrier as such. China bought one of the same class from the Ukraine, and made it work. It is more a question of this one not needed for the ongoing conflict in the Ukraine. Funds are thus allocated to more appropriate projects. It is also too small to be compared to larger US carriers, but too big compared to smaller European-style carriers. A series of smaller carriers would be more useful in the waters of the Baltic Sea, the Black Sea and the Okhotsk Sea.
I blame the communist machine spirits in these soviet weapons. Russia abandoned communism and greatly displeased the machine spirit, so all the Soviet weapons in Russia keeps malfunctioning and falling apart. Ukranine abandon communism even more so their Soviet weapons doesn't work at all. China and Belarus still practices communism, and their Soviet weapons seems to work just fine. I reckon the Russian can fix their problem if they get the officers to dress up as Political commisars and recite verses from the communist manifesto while holding a crossed hammer and sickle, three times a day during Sunrise, Midday and sunset. 😂
@@moss550 Aah you funny bastard .... I actually did my own research on Science and technology in the Soviet Union and what I realized is that they used to spend a lot on Education specially on Science , Mathematics , Physics while spending a lot on Military (I mean why not) . Since Emigration and any travel abroad were not allowed there, the big brains had no other options but to stay there ... that might explain why they were so successful when it comes to Rocketry and Aviation ... but I have to say they are terrible Sailors but impressive Divers ( I'm talking about their submarines) And when the USSR fell apart in 1991 those guys emigrated to the United States Of America , and helped to improve the US technological beasts like the F 35 and are now living wealthy lives ....
Не нужен авианосец континентальной стране. У России даже доктрина неподходящая, оборонительная. Это нужно крупным морским державам для проведения боевых операций вдали от своих берегов, для нападения на аборигенов. Потому как для любой развитой военной державы авианосец - легкая и вкусная цель. Для примера, недавно, когда вспыхнул конфликт в Газе, американский авианосец вместе с группировкой, такой весь крутой и мощный, встал в Средиземном море за Сицилией, ровно за максимальным радиусом поражения имеющихся береговых ракет Ливана. Стоял он там абсолютно бесполезно и трусливо, ибо знает, что воевать ему только против луков и копий.
Khrushchev called carrier "floating coffin". That actually missed opportunities to develop this class of ships. It's still useful, not just colonial seapower tools.
Carriers are obscenely expensive. That is their mission. They make huge profits for the MIC, their lobbyists and the chickenhawk politicians. The taxpayers and consumers pay with rising debt and inflation.
If you are asking that question then you have no clue about the limits of Hypersonic missiles. A one hundred meter change in course can cause a hyper to miss by kilometers. That is IF it can find the carrier in the first place!
@okbutthenagain.9402 I had a brother in the US navy. He was an officer on the USS Independence. He once told me that they knew where all the Soviets assets were, and the Soviets knew where our assets are. Satellites see all. Submarines are constantly stalking all our carriers. They are sitting ducks.
China has been trying to build one for the last 20 years. Ended down in a deeeep shit. Yes, they can do anything that requires tedious, hard labor. But have a problem with anything that requires real brain.
The Goal would in this Case be Reliability. And there were some serious Problems lately. This could be, because every capable Guy with working Braincells tries to get the Hell out of a Land, which is ruled by a Bunch of heartless, selfcentered Psychopaths. As far as I know, former KGB Employees are not necessarily known for being understanding and caring Philanthropists...
Серьезно ???? Потс, построй сначала заводы, где бы производилось нормальное сливочное масло. Твоя сраная Россия травит своих людей "пальмовой" отравой из Китая, люди забыли когда в последний раз ели нормальное сливочное масло. Едиственная "производственная мощность" в России, котарая в состояние что-то производить - это Союзмультфильм, которая и клепает ролики про сверх-оружие.
Russia should design a medium size aircraft carrier that can submerge just below sea level on cruzing and rise up during active duty. This way it is more effective in secret missions. Moreover it isnuclear power.
Those "big targets for hypersonic missiles" are expensive to build and maintain. Where is the real money coming from, especially now that interest payments on the debt form a larger line item on the budget than the war-spending? Perhaps the boomers will have to sacrifice their social security and Medicare checks?
@@derikuk2967 LOL... I can tell your an idiot and I mean that in the fact you know nothing about missiles or guns... In order to shoot a missile you need coordinates which no one has except the Captain aboard the ship.... So that answers that... And as far as money we don't divide it up in generations... ALL give and that is that... So stop trying to show you know something you know nothing about... And I have a vested to know the knowledge I have
One ship of a certain kind is not enough. One needs series of say at least two and better three. Ships aren't always sailing and the first one build is always a prototype. If you test the prototype, you will find room for improvement and what is better then to implement that on the next one in the serie. Also in order to keep a steady appearance on sea, it is better to have say three sailing and one in a MLU or whatever reason not operational. Especccially with carriers. What are you gonna do with al special people and apparatus and planes during the time the ship ain't working? So better series of smaller easier to exploit ships then one big one.
Why will Russia need an aircraft carrier when they can build a hypersonic missile which will make aircraft carriers a big sitting dock. It doesn’t make any sense to me
Electromagnetic catapult??? I am pretty sure Russians do not have that technology. This ship is only the size of China's 076 amphibious assault ship the Sichuan. It's small.
has it caught fire yet or broken down at sea? and if the do start to build one will it cost as much as a larger carrier and take four or five times longer than projected? how many drones will Ukraine need to hit it with before it burns and sinks?
Russia has no shortage of military designs what they do have a shortage of is modern R&D facilities, money, technical expertise and skilled personnel to turn those designs into reality. This carrier like the larger carrier Russia was going to build won't happen it's wishful thinking for a country that now faces a new military reality.
Чушь полная! В России лучшие военные конструкторы и инженеры,но авианоцы по большому счету это вчерашний день,главное подводные лодки нового поколения!
Andrew Austin onother american talking garbage what about Boeing aircraft they and Boeing aircraft manufacturers have turned to shit.The usa could enter the third world grouping of nations with its tent cities for the homeless
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21st century. Dozens of automatic translators, including voice ones. After that, your comment about "a certain lag in Russia and that Russia is missing something" looks a little funny
I think of aircraft carriers as a display of aggression and colonialism. Russia does not intend to accumulate it because they are not a country that wants to take advantage of other countries. Being able to destroy those giant ships with missiles is something Russia is an expert at.
Well the first one failed ! So on a new path why try to make it even tougher to build a multi roll when the concept is not even built yet so make one type first then build off of what works
Russia needs small versatile aircraft carrier in the black see and north see, and although in the sea of okhotsk. Big air craft carrier are not suitable for protection the litoral coast, only for power demonstration versus big fleets or states with coastline. And the integration of drones and amphibious assault groups is the perfect match for the Russian naval force. Russia is not interested to invade USA or Europe, neither Japan or Australia.
Yes, China bought a Kuznetsov class as scrap metal from Ukraine and renamed it as "Liaoning", made another copy of it named it "Shandong", made many copies Su-33 carrier jets too. Both carriers along with tens of other warships are in South China Sea in an exercise: ua-cam.com/video/aViJ1TCv3qc/v-deo.html
Russia needs a very basic navy, Russia is massive EU is attached to them UK, is a 8 min boomer kinzal hit away. US is 7 min by bomber, THE world needs to come to Russia if it wants to fight them. Top that off with the fact that Putin is a 'come at me bro', kinda guy. Small carriers would be support for marine landings, tactical, not strategic and thats perfect.
Bear in mind the shortage of Russian bases for large carriers. The Kuznetsov was built in Nikolaev that is now in Ukraine & they had to build a special dry dock near Archangel just to fit it in. Then the dock sank after the pumps stopped working due to the manager selling off the diesel to operate them. The Russian Navy is a disgrace to itself
What prevents them from building new bases? Where there's will there's a way. Russian problem is that they have no actual will, and this is why all their ship projects remain projects. Also, that was floating dock, not dry dock. Dry docks are structures built into the land, they can not just sink.
Bear this in mind no pund intended, they don't need it and as far as there navy how about they're nuclear sub fleet that cannot be tracked seriously go kick rocks and do so real research 😮
He speaking nonsense. Russian navy has never been so great and better than today. Producing bigh transport, icebreaker ships, subs best subs in the world and corvettes ajd frogstes combined@平教經
Yes, you are right - both Chinese carriers and Chines fighters are "stealth", because they do NOT exist. ):): Typical Chinese problem - absence of brainpower
All these "showcases" are made at the famous (really famous, no joke) studio "Союзмультфильм". It used to be the best studio in the world in the business of making cartoons (animated) films for kids. But Wladimir Putin has shot down that business, as it was not in line with his anti-human propaganda. So, within the last 20 years this famed studio had been making propaganda animated videos about would-be and "wish list" of Putin's paranoic dreams. One should be a complete idiot to believe that the country, which is unable to manufacture cars and even small, simple commercial aircraft may be able to produce an aircraft carrier. Russia is now buying missiles from the 3rd world countries, such as Iran and North Korea.
Хватит путать. "Кузнецов" - это авианесущий крейсер. Это не просто авианосец, это крейсер. Этот корабль способен атаковать и обороняться в одиночку, в отличие от беспомощных авианосцев НАТО.
@@okbutthenagain.9402 С удовольствием продолжу. Только внимательно запомни пять слов, которые ты упомянул "Глупые, пропаганда, чушь, будут смеяться". Давай выясним - где лживая пропаганда, кто пишет свои комментарии с издевательской ухмылкой, и кто пишет глупую чушь. Я из России. Из какой ты страны? Сравним подробно. Истина познаётся в сравнении. А для начала сразу пойду с одного козыря. США без России даже астронавтов с орбиты забрать не могут, а такие как ты продолжают верить в полёты на луну. Открою "тайну" - луна коричневая, не серая. Но разве режиссёры Голливуда когда-нибудь обращали внимание на такие мелочи?😁 Примени мозг и зацени масштабы лжи и дальнейшего своего когнитивного диссонанса. Ты же хочешь посмеяться? Ты же не боишься правды? Или ты предпочитаешь сладкую ложь?
@@okbutthenagain.9402 Ты же ведь даже не осознаешь что такое "пропаганда". Ты лишь ретранслируешь то, что тебе рассказали по телевизору или "правдивые" блогеры. А что такое "пропаганда"? Хорошо это или плохо? Например, пропаганда здорового образа жизни, здравого смысла, семейных ценностей, любви к своей Родине, или как в твоём случае - пропаганда радужных ценностей. Многие с малых лет уверены, что американский военный или полицейский - это всегда хороший парень. Что макдональдс - это вкусная, дешёвая и безвредная еда, что запад за всё хорошее и против всего плохого... Настоящая лживая пропаганда - это то, чего ты не замечаешь. Мне было 7 лет, когда я впервые посмотрел фильм "Рэмбо 3", и я уже тогда прыгал на животе от смеха, потому что в этом фильме происходил абсолютный бред. Представь это с моей точки зрения - длинноволосый, полуголый мужик, бегает по горам Афганистана и сотнями уничтожает советских подготовленных солдат из лука (которые , кстати, почему-то бегают в зимних шинелях...). А многие на западе воспринимают подобные фильмы как вполне возможные варианты событий, то есть не исключают, что такое вполне возможно в реальности.
Russian geography dies not offer much space for aircraft carriers. Land based airplanescombined with powerfully armed smaller missile ship are quite efficient combination suitable for smaller sea near coast or Arctic Ocean. As for Blue Water navy, combined NATO os too large to take head on in open ocean.
Apparently, you're not aware that Russia is the only one using hypersonic missiles with success. It is the Ukrainians who are the ones having problems with Russian hypersonic missiles, tanks and aircraft. The expression that Russians "can’t get anything right" is in stark contrast with the realities on the battle fields.
No Russia's govt is fine thankyou very much. Not that it's any of YOUR business. You lot need some new brains tho... or some neutralisation given that you openly support Nazis in the Ukraine (inc many positions all the way up to Dep Prime Minister). Karma will be pleasant.... for Russia!
Not nearly as urgently as the US and the EU need governments that are responsive to the real needs of their citizens. We are facing a rigged political farce ("election") where the Uniparty has given us a choice between two of the worst clown-puppets imaginable.
Russian marine engineering especially for aircraft carriers is terrible if it is built it is going to suffer from breakdowns, unreliable machinery and badly trained crews.
I think, you have twisted picture because you mostly think about ships built back in soviet times. Those things are 40 or more years old by now. Ships built in past 20 or so years seem to be quite fine as far as quality goes.
You are in the *same* boat as the Russians, pointing out that the hole on their side is bigger than the hole on our side. The joke is on the ordinary stooges (citizen-voters) of the world. We are all drowning in debt, corruption, theft and lies... wrapped in flags and gaslighted by propaganda. Wake UP!
To break up from what? The economy is booming. There is no any trace of people's discontent. Plenty of food, cars and other goods. West pays for our war buying our oil and gas via India, China and so on.
If one thing is for sure: the Russian Navy does not need a super-carrier. The concept of a small fleet of - lets say - 4-6 light carriers with 45.000 tons each, drones and a nuclear propulsion looks much more promising and would make sense.
indeed, this is the future, with advance weaponry fielded today, you gotta be small to avoid being a big target, this small carriers will do the same job like those american super-carriers but with more maneuverability, less radar signature and far better speed,,lets not forget maintenance, everytime a super-carrier is docked it costs millions and millions of dollars to refit and maintian at port, this small ones would costs less to maintain..the super-carrier is an obsolete system just like the main battle tank, just look at ukraine war, main battle tanks on both sides are not faring well, even suppose advance western tanks in ukraine having problems, but the smaller more agile light armoured vehicles are getting the job done in ukraine war on russia side and on the ukrainian side with there bradleys.
More like 25,000 tons each.
@@Bellthorian Yes - why not? 45.000t only, if there is a well-deck or maybe a hospital - would transform this carrier class to a naval version of a Swiss pocket knife.
Nah make sure they aren't nuclear powered, the last thing we need is mutant fish popping up when they are at the bottom of the ocean
@@idlehands1864 they sure need to be nuclear. because we need a mutant you
Carriers are like yesterday’s battleships, they are impressive, they can project power against weaker opponents, but they are big sitting ducks when facing modern anti ship weapons, ranging from true hypersonic missiles, supersonic cruise missiles, long range cruise missiles, modern attack subs, especially when in the middle of some ocean the pressure NOT to use nuclear weapons is much lower - it just takes one warhead to slip through, but even with conventional weapons we have seen the limitations of western ADS, especially when saturated by larger salvos over extended periods. Carriers are nice for limited power projection and supporting amphibious operations against third tier opponents.
true but unlike battleships, they are necessary for said air power projection
Russia's doctrine is purely defensive in nature, designed to operate regionally only. In addition to this the Russian economy simply cant afford power projection like the USA and China can so it needs to solve this problem asymmetrically. A brand new light carrier, that emphasizes drones and helicopters over aircraft seems to tick all the boxes to me, it allows Russia to expand its naval power significantly whilst staying within the constraints of its economy and doctrine. Lets not forget that hypersonic weapons have in my opinion made Carriers obsolete. I wouldnt be surprised if we see this proven soon.
Economy doesn't mean much when you have all the resources within your territory.
@@Amukalalu unless you use slave labor to extract those resources you do. And out of all the military branches the Russian Navy has suffered the most neglect. All of Russia's naval infrastructure is in need of major modernization especially if it wants to start building modern bluewater ships. In my opinion, what russia is focused on right now is perfect for its needs, which is subs for power projection and coastal vessels for area denial.
@@mrhuffnpuff Money is just a representation of a commody, Russia has a thriving a agriculture sector, they have the resources to stand on there own. They don't pay their population in a foreign currency. They have a well educated and manageable population size. So they depend much on foreign exchange when compared to other countries like China. Plus they achieved success in releasing their first 28nm chip, bringing them closer to self independence. They can survive without the rest of the world
@@mrhuffnpuff Russia does not have global ambitions like the US, there major priority is defense of the homeland, that's why there naval fleet is largely made up of Corvettes for short range missions.
@@Amukalalu Yes, i said Russia's doctrine is defensive already. But still, in order to expand it's military might across all sectors year in year out, it does need the economy to back it up otherwise it will fall again just like the Soviet Union did, and just like America most likely will.
The problem is not with the current carrier as such. China bought one of the same class from the Ukraine, and made it work. It is more a question of this one not needed for the ongoing conflict in the Ukraine. Funds are thus allocated to more appropriate projects. It is also too small to be compared to larger US carriers, but too big compared to smaller European-style carriers. A series of smaller carriers would be more useful in the waters of the Baltic Sea, the Black Sea and the Okhotsk Sea.
I blame the communist machine spirits in these soviet weapons.
Russia abandoned communism and greatly displeased the machine spirit, so all the Soviet weapons in Russia keeps malfunctioning and falling apart. Ukranine abandon communism even more so their Soviet weapons doesn't work at all.
China and Belarus still practices communism, and their Soviet weapons seems to work just fine.
I reckon the Russian can fix their problem if they get the officers to dress up as Political commisars and recite verses from the communist manifesto while holding a crossed hammer and sickle, three times a day during Sunrise, Midday and sunset. 😂
@@moss550 Aah you funny bastard .... I actually did my own research on Science and technology in the Soviet Union and what I realized is that they used to spend a lot on Education specially on Science , Mathematics , Physics while spending a lot on Military (I mean why not) . Since Emigration and any travel abroad were not allowed there, the big brains had no other options but to stay there ... that might explain why they were so successful when it comes to Rocketry and Aviation ... but I have to say they are terrible Sailors but impressive Divers ( I'm talking about their submarines)
And when the USSR fell apart in 1991 those guys emigrated to the United States Of America , and helped to improve the US technological beasts like the F 35 and are now living wealthy lives ....
Не нужен авианосец континентальной стране. У России даже доктрина неподходящая, оборонительная. Это нужно крупным морским державам для проведения боевых операций вдали от своих берегов, для нападения на аборигенов. Потому как для любой развитой военной державы авианосец - легкая и вкусная цель.
Для примера, недавно, когда вспыхнул конфликт в Газе, американский авианосец вместе с группировкой, такой весь крутой и мощный, встал в Средиземном море за Сицилией, ровно за максимальным радиусом поражения имеющихся береговых ракет Ливана. Стоял он там абсолютно бесполезно и трусливо, ибо знает, что воевать ему только против луков и копий.
Khrushchev called carrier "floating coffin". That actually missed opportunities to develop this class of ships. It's still useful, not just colonial seapower tools.
Aircraft carriers are an obsolete format. Russia would be foolish to waste their money and time on this.
Why bother building aircraft carriers? The advent of hyper sonic missiles have made them obsolete.
Carriers are obscenely expensive. That is their mission. They make huge profits for the MIC, their lobbyists and the chickenhawk politicians. The taxpayers and consumers pay with rising debt and inflation.
If you are asking that question then you have no clue about the limits of Hypersonic missiles. A one hundred meter change in course can cause a hyper to miss by kilometers. That is IF it can find the carrier in the first place!
@@derikuk2967 No their mission is to pssi off woke tree huggers like you. Job done!
@okbutthenagain.9402 I had a brother in the US navy. He was an officer on the USS Independence. He once told me that they knew where all the Soviets assets were, and the Soviets knew where our assets are. Satellites see all. Submarines are constantly stalking all our carriers. They are sitting ducks.
Russia should just sell their existing Aircraft Carrier to one of its allies, as is. And start from new, with a new design and capabilities.
China can build aircraft carriers quickly. Russia could buy a carrier from China.
China has been trying to build one for the last 20 years. Ended down in a deeeep shit. Yes, they can do anything that requires tedious, hard labor. But have a problem with anything that requires real brain.
that new Carrier desind looks stealth and i was hoping it will be added to Modern Warships game
If they build a weapon that can destroy a ship why would they spend money when they can just build submarines
Submarines are easily sunk by ASROC missiles launched by long range aircraft!
Россия может построить что угодно, важна лишь цель!
The Goal would in this Case be Reliability. And there were some serious Problems lately. This could be, because every capable Guy with working Braincells tries to get the Hell out of a Land, which is ruled by a Bunch of heartless, selfcentered Psychopaths. As far as I know, former KGB Employees are not necessarily known for being understanding and caring Philanthropists...
of course,cars with no ABS and Air-bag :))))
Серьезно ???? Потс, построй сначала заводы, где бы производилось нормальное сливочное масло. Твоя сраная Россия травит своих людей "пальмовой" отравой из Китая, люди забыли когда в последний раз ели нормальное сливочное масло. Едиственная "производственная мощность" в России, котарая в состояние что-то производить - это Союзмультфильм, которая и клепает ролики про сверх-оружие.
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So powerful I like it
Luxembourg Navy is showcasing new Aircraftcarrier design too. Nobody dumb enough to post about it though.
Russia should design a medium size aircraft carrier that can submerge just below sea level on cruzing and rise up during active duty. This way it is more effective in secret missions. Moreover it isnuclear power.
The US has floated an idea of a small carrier as well
Those "big targets for hypersonic missiles" are expensive to build and maintain. Where is the real money coming from, especially now that interest payments on the debt form a larger line item on the budget than the war-spending? Perhaps the boomers will have to sacrifice their social security and Medicare checks?
@@derikuk2967 LOL... I can tell your an idiot and I mean that in the fact you know nothing about missiles or guns... In order to shoot a missile you need coordinates which no one has except the Captain aboard the ship.... So that answers that... And as far as money we don't divide it up in generations... ALL give and that is that... So stop trying to show you know something you know nothing about... And I have a vested to know the knowledge I have
@@derikuk2967 No their mission is to pssi off woke tree huggers like you.And the money is coming out of your pocket...Enjoy paying!
One ship of a certain kind is not enough. One needs series of say at least two and better three. Ships aren't always sailing and the first one build is always a prototype. If you test the prototype, you will find room for improvement and what is better then to implement that on the next one in the serie. Also in order to keep a steady appearance on sea, it is better to have say three sailing and one in a MLU or whatever reason not operational. Especccially with carriers. What are you gonna do with al special people and apparatus and planes during the time the ship ain't working? So better series of smaller easier to exploit ships then one big one.
Why will Russia need an aircraft carrier when they can build a hypersonic missile which will make aircraft carriers a big sitting dock.
It doesn’t make any sense to me
A sitting docl ehh....What doesn't make sense is you pretending to be a native English speaker while making silly mistakes giving you away.
With 14 time zones stretching as a country why building a sinkable Airport
lol it was a US Navy carrier 😂😂😂 4:10
is this to replace the never-delivered mistrals?
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Electromagnetic catapult??? I am pretty sure Russians do not have that technology. This ship is only the size of China's 076 amphibious assault ship the Sichuan. It's small.
has it caught fire yet or broken down at sea? and if the do start to build one will it cost as much as a larger carrier and take four or five times longer than projected? how many drones will Ukraine need to hit it with before it burns and sinks?
μεχρι τη κατασκευη δε θα υπαρχει ουκρανια φιλε.
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Russia has no shortage of military designs what they do have a shortage of is modern R&D facilities, money, technical expertise and skilled personnel to turn those designs into reality. This carrier like the larger carrier Russia was going to build won't happen it's wishful thinking for a country that now faces a new military reality.
Чушь полная! В России лучшие военные конструкторы и инженеры,но авианоцы по большому счету это вчерашний день,главное подводные лодки нового поколения!
@@АлександрОкулов-е5ъ My apologies my Russian is very limited.
Andrew Austin onother american talking garbage what about Boeing aircraft they and Boeing aircraft manufacturers have turned to shit.The usa could enter the third world grouping of nations with its tent cities for the homeless
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21st century. Dozens of automatic translators, including voice ones. After that, your comment about "a certain lag in Russia and that Russia is missing something" looks a little funny
Underwater and invisible? )))
Yes!
I think of aircraft carriers as a display of aggression and colonialism. Russia does not intend to accumulate it because they are not a country that wants to take advantage of other countries. Being able to destroy those giant ships with missiles is something Russia is an expert at.
Really !!
It's already commissioned in TikTok.🤣🤣🤣
Just like the F-22, its on the internet for 22 years and non has ever been in service XD
Catamaran and trimarans should be considered.
No.
That's stupid.
You loose internal space and seaworthiness.
Well the first one failed ! So on a new path why try to make it even tougher to build a multi roll when the concept is not even built yet so make one type first then build off of what works
ese portaviones que muestran como ruso es un diseño surcoreano
Russia needs small versatile aircraft carrier in the black see and north see, and although in the sea of okhotsk.
Big air craft carrier are not suitable for protection the litoral coast, only for power demonstration versus big fleets or states with coastline.
And the integration of drones and amphibious assault groups is the perfect match for the Russian naval force.
Russia is not interested to invade USA or Europe, neither Japan or Australia.
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Yes, China bought a Kuznetsov class as scrap metal from Ukraine and renamed it as "Liaoning", made another copy of it named it "Shandong", made many copies Su-33 carrier jets too. Both carriers along with tens of other warships are in South China Sea in an exercise: ua-cam.com/video/aViJ1TCv3qc/v-deo.html
Ski jump.
America never tried it?
Seems a little bit odd, donchathink?
Russia needs a very basic navy, Russia is massive EU is attached to them UK, is a 8 min boomer kinzal hit away. US is 7 min by bomber, THE world needs to come to Russia if it wants to fight them. Top that off with the fact that Putin is a 'come at me bro', kinda guy. Small carriers would be support for marine landings, tactical, not strategic and thats perfect.
Bear in mind the shortage of Russian bases for large carriers. The Kuznetsov was built in Nikolaev that is now in Ukraine & they had to build a special dry dock near Archangel just to fit it in. Then the dock sank after the pumps stopped working due to the manager selling off the diesel to operate them. The Russian Navy is a disgrace to itself
What prevents them from building new bases? Where there's will there's a way. Russian problem is that they have no actual will, and this is why all their ship projects remain projects. Also, that was floating dock, not dry dock. Dry docks are structures built into the land, they can not just sink.
Bear this in mind no pund intended, they don't need it and as far as there navy how about they're nuclear sub fleet that cannot be tracked seriously go kick rocks and do so real research 😮
He speaking nonsense. Russian navy has never been so great and better than today. Producing bigh transport, icebreaker ships, subs best subs in the world and corvettes ajd frogstes combined@平教經
@@平教經russia does not need aircraft carriers
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 Nice strong copium you have there.
in 21 century aircraft is fat target and absolute ship in war
Just like the Russian navy is for a country like Ukraine who doesn't even have a navy. 😂😂
Loool… russia hasn’t money to pay the army, even less to build a carrier
Kepp believing that
@ … loool … sure bot !… got your potato today !… 😂
Russia has no money yet it hires 30000+ volunteer soldiers monthly with month salary of 2500$ and an one-off payment of 10000$.
The Russian new aircraft carrier the BUSHKA runs on vodka.
και εσυ λετουργεις με μαζουτ
It's easier just buy a new one from China with stealth fighters on board
Yes, you are right - both Chinese carriers and Chines fighters are "stealth", because they do NOT exist. ):): Typical Chinese problem - absence of brainpower
All these "showcases" are made at the famous (really famous, no joke) studio "Союзмультфильм". It used to be the best studio in the world in the business of making cartoons (animated) films for kids. But Wladimir Putin has shot down that business, as it was not in line with his anti-human propaganda. So, within the last 20 years this famed studio had been making propaganda animated videos about would-be and "wish list" of Putin's paranoic dreams. One should be a complete idiot to believe that the country, which is unable to manufacture cars and even small, simple commercial aircraft may be able to produce an aircraft carrier. Russia is now buying missiles from the 3rd world countries, such as Iran and North Korea.
Хватит путать. "Кузнецов" - это авианесущий крейсер. Это не просто авианосец, это крейсер. Этот корабль способен атаковать и обороняться в одиночку, в отличие от беспомощных авианосцев НАТО.
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@@mazransamin8023 Может есть что возразить? У нас в России говорят "смех без причины - признак дурачины".
@@ПетрПетрович777 If you keep posting dumb answers with your propaganda BS then people will keep laughing at you. Enjoy
@@okbutthenagain.9402 С удовольствием продолжу. Только внимательно запомни пять слов, которые ты упомянул "Глупые, пропаганда, чушь, будут смеяться".
Давай выясним - где лживая пропаганда, кто пишет свои комментарии с издевательской ухмылкой, и кто пишет глупую чушь. Я из России. Из какой ты страны? Сравним подробно. Истина познаётся в сравнении.
А для начала сразу пойду с одного козыря. США без России даже астронавтов с орбиты забрать не могут, а такие как ты продолжают верить в полёты на луну. Открою "тайну" - луна коричневая, не серая. Но разве режиссёры Голливуда когда-нибудь обращали внимание на такие мелочи?😁 Примени мозг и зацени масштабы лжи и дальнейшего своего когнитивного диссонанса. Ты же хочешь посмеяться? Ты же не боишься правды? Или ты предпочитаешь сладкую ложь?
@@okbutthenagain.9402 Ты же ведь даже не осознаешь что такое "пропаганда". Ты лишь ретранслируешь то, что тебе рассказали по телевизору или "правдивые" блогеры.
А что такое "пропаганда"? Хорошо это или плохо? Например, пропаганда здорового образа жизни, здравого смысла, семейных ценностей, любви к своей Родине, или как в твоём случае - пропаганда радужных ценностей.
Многие с малых лет уверены, что американский военный или полицейский - это всегда хороший парень. Что макдональдс - это вкусная, дешёвая и безвредная еда, что запад за всё хорошее и против всего плохого... Настоящая лживая пропаганда - это то, чего ты не замечаешь.
Мне было 7 лет, когда я впервые посмотрел фильм "Рэмбо 3", и я уже тогда прыгал на животе от смеха, потому что в этом фильме происходил абсолютный бред. Представь это с моей точки зрения - длинноволосый, полуголый мужик, бегает по горам Афганистана и сотнями уничтожает советских подготовленных солдат из лука (которые , кстати, почему-то бегают в зимних шинелях...). А многие на западе воспринимают подобные фильмы как вполне возможные варианты событий, то есть не исключают, что такое вполне возможно в реальности.
Russian geography dies not offer much space for aircraft carriers. Land based airplanescombined with powerfully armed smaller missile ship are quite efficient combination suitable for smaller sea near coast or Arctic Ocean. As for Blue Water navy, combined NATO os too large to take head on in open ocean.
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U.S. aircraft carrier film lmao 🤡
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I see it will carry Hornets and F-35s.
🤣 a place to land the SU-57 or carry the T-14. Give it up propagandist. 😂
Russia building a new aircraft carrier? They can’t get anything right ranging from tanks to planes to hypersonic missiles….. hahahaha 😂😂😂😂
Apparently, you're not aware that Russia is the only one using hypersonic missiles with success. It is the Ukrainians who are the ones having problems with Russian hypersonic missiles, tanks and aircraft. The expression that Russians "can’t get anything right" is in stark contrast with the realities on the battle fields.
Russia needs a new government before getting a new carrier.
No Russia's govt is fine thankyou very much. Not that it's any of YOUR business.
You lot need some new brains tho... or some neutralisation given that you openly support Nazis in the Ukraine (inc many positions all the way up to Dep Prime Minister).
Karma will be pleasant.... for Russia!
Who was elected USA, and UK @ world president lol
Not nearly as urgently as the US and the EU need governments that are responsive to the real needs of their citizens. We are facing a rigged political farce ("election") where the Uniparty has given us a choice between two of the worst clown-puppets imaginable.
I would like to see the 'Leaders' of England and the US remain, facing incompetents like them gives Russia a big advantage.
Russian new government will be more hostile to the West and less tolerable towards Western minions.
stupid, never gonna happen
Russian marine engineering especially for aircraft carriers is terrible if it is built it is going to suffer from breakdowns, unreliable machinery and badly trained crews.
Much like the British carriers then !
You discribe the US fleet.
Except their submarines, naturally.
But yea, get some extra doses of your propaganda and maybe you belief some more.
I think, you have twisted picture because you mostly think about ships built back in soviet times. Those things are 40 or more years old by now. Ships built in past 20 or so years seem to be quite fine as far as quality goes.
@@平教經 Russia is in position to build any aircraft carriers with a war in Ukraine draining all of their military funds.
@@davey7452 Their economy is not in that bad of a state (contrarary to what Euro-american journos tend to claim).
This ship will either never be built or if it is it will be of terrible build quality and utterly unreliable. As are all Russian ships and submarines.
You are such an expert!
Another floating vodka distillery design, big deal.
Russia we'll be lucky not to break up I think you're giving Russia a little too much longevity
Is that a good thing, or a bad thing?
Russian have 0 Aircraftcarier..The Kuznezov is Schrott.Thatsis Fact. Russian have now Money for modern Aircraftcarier.Thats is Fact.
lolz.
the eu will break and the usa might break, Russia is fine and will last.
You are in the *same* boat as the Russians, pointing out that the hole on their side is bigger than the hole on our side. The joke is on the ordinary stooges (citizen-voters) of the world. We are all drowning in debt, corruption, theft and lies... wrapped in flags and gaslighted by propaganda. Wake UP!
To break up from what? The economy is booming. There is no any trace of people's discontent. Plenty of food, cars and other goods. West pays for our war buying our oil and gas via India, China and so on.
Surprised no one is building an all drone air craft carrier. That is small quick.
^ China is.
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