Olympus OM-4Ti vs OM-4 | Worth The Upgrade?
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- In this video, I discuss the improvements Olympus made to the original OM4 when they introduced the OM4 Ti (Also called OM4T in Europe and USA) Is it worth the extra 300%+ premium over the original OM4? You make your own judgment.
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A few corrections if I may (from experience over the years and via comments of licenced Olympus repair employees).
1) The back of the OM-4ti should indeed be made from titanium - at least there are quite a few that do have that (mine does). But they can of course use all of the standard (and verious date/record) OM(single digit series) backs.
2) ALL OM-4's came with the battery drain issue - a service upgrade for the circuit was offered by Olympus. So some bodies may have been serviced. It was not a free service (it cost around $300) so it is not incredibly common. Buyers should expect it to have the old circuitry.
3) The mechanical 1/60s or B setting does not switch off the electronics - it's a myth. It simply disables the activation of the meter and that's it. The camear still drains battery.
I would always recommend going for an Olympus OM-4ti over an OM-4. They are generally in better condition and often have the upgraded focusing screen (which you should always ask about). The series 1 focusing screens are basically useless in dim light for anything less than f/2. The later ti bodies often had a packed (in the box) series 2 focus-screen. It was a known issue.
Thanks, my OM4ti came with steel backing, as evident by putting a magnet on the back and it immediately got stuck on the film back.
@@TheGizmoGarage For sure, I think many did come with standard steel backs (exactly the same as the OM-4). Nothing wrong with that.
I just meant to point out that there were runs (I think later ones) that used titanium though (like the backs on the OM-3ti), they tend to be more valuable.
Not that it really effects functionally (it doesn't).
I once read a explanation from a former Olympus repair technician (who started his own OM repair business; unfortunately I don't remember where I saw it). Regarding the battery drain issue, he said that there were a number of revisions of the electronics (3 or 4 if I remember correctly) where each revision was a bit better than the previous one. And indeed the B and backup 60 setting turn off the light meter, but not the electronics itself, so all OM-4/OM-4Ti cameras drain the battery to some extent. The latest revision is basically the one used in the OM-4Ti although the size/shape of the actual circuit board is slightly different than that of the OM4, meaning that you cannot just replace your OM-4 circuit board with that of a OM-4Ti (I'm not sure if it could be adapted to fit though, but I seem to remember that was a service he offered.)
Interestingly he also said that when an OM-4 came in for maintenance or repair, they would swap the circuit board for the latest revision, free of charge. I don't know if they started out charging for it and later decided to swap them out anyway for no extra cost. Or maybe it depended on the region where the repair facility was located.
But this does mean that an OM-4 could have any revision of the circuit board, either straight from the factory or as a later replacement, regardless of when it was made.
Good point about the focusing screen, I wasn't aware of that. I should check my Ti to see what screen is in it.
This is not the first time he has handed out incorrect information regarding the OM lineup of cameras. I addressed similar concerns on his OM1, OM2, OM2S video a while back. Frustrating as an OM enthusiast who has also been in contact with ex Olympus repair employees. John Hermanson is the ideal person to seek out for support and servicing.
@@beebot great response and clearing out some 'facts' about those cameras. It is similar to the famous takumar 50 f1.4 lens with 8 elements vs 7 elements newer version wheres 8 element version costs 3x more than the 7 version price however 7 elements version is a way better lens heh
Having both camera bodies; I am very happy to view this clip, especially on the battery drain issue and body scratches. Many thanks for the review and best regards from Egypt.
Another difference between the two is that the OM-4Ti can do HSS flash (or Super FP as Olympus calls it) when paired with the F280 flash. You'll notice that the OM-4 has three contacts in the hot-shoe, whereas the OM-4Ti has five.
Thank you, I ried HSS with T32, usages application is quite limited especially in bright daylight for fill flash. Not to mention old HSS flashes for OM are all very bulky, defying the purpose of having a compact 35mm SLR setup. Regular non TTL auto flashes works just as good for indoor fill flash with iso 100-400 films.
@@TheGizmoGarage T32 doesn't support HSS.
The f280 with the 4ti allows sync at all shutter speeds, which is pretty crazy.
Extremly helpful and informativ. Thank you sir!
Thank you. Glad it was helpful
As far as I know, the OM4 T is a designation made for the USA market only. In the rest of the world, the model was marked as OM4 Ti
Correct. Apart from the name, they are identical cameras.
On all the champagne finish OM-4 ti cameras, you can see the plate around the lens mount is painted the same color as the top and bottom covers of the camera. That indicates to me more use of titanium. Also, when compared with the film back from my OM-2SP the ti back feels a little heavier and notably more stiff.
Question does the OM4 meter of the film plane or through the lens. What I mean is when taking a picture does the shutter close when enough light is recived at time of exposure or does it expose to just prior to shutter curtain opening? I ask this question as I have an OM2N and it will close the shutter only when it receives enough light. So I can take a picture in a dark setting with little light and flash paint the scene.
Film plane just like the OM2.
The battery drain issue is solved if I set to Bulb position (OM4)?
From what I heard, even if you put in Bulb, the battery will continue to drain. The only definitive way to prevent the drain on OM4 models is to take the battery out of the camera.
How is cm 1 vs 4? So I got keep track of a serial number to avoid tje battery drainage problem?
To me, it's hard to know which OM4 is affected unless you start using them. OM1's built-in meter battery will last a pretty long time from my experience.
@@TheGizmoGarage ok thanks for the quick response. 😁 was looking at a deal. Om1 4 and a bunch of lenses. The 50 24 and a Tele.
OM-1 does not have a battery drain problem. If you happened to see the section starting at ~ 5:10 , you would have learned how to determine if an OM-4 suffers the battery drain problem, and it does not involve serial numbers.
@@GB-ez6ge serial numbers and fixing defects is normally how it works . sorry I'm not as attentive as your condescending Self. Perhaps you can be so attentive with Ukraine fascist and our 💩 admin. In the future
@@GB-ez6ge true, the OM-1 doesn't drain your battery as long as you remember to turn the light meter off after use. Don't ask me how I know :-)
Which one had the battery drain Issue.?
Potentially all OM4 had a battery drain issue, OM4T, OM4Ti doesn't have this issue.
5:10
OM-2s and OM-4.
Funny, how some see painted brass as a negative, while others pay premium for black painted brass Leica MP although they could buy a nearly identical zinc coated black Leica M6, BECAUS the brass will show over the years leading to a brass patina (as seen on this OM-4 on some places), which they consider to be beautiful and highly desirable, because there is nothing more beatuiful to some people than a tool that is clearly clean and well maintained yet well used on the other hand.
I myself would not pay premiums for it, but I have never considered even for a second to consider my highly brassed Nikon FE worthy of replacement. I would not pay money for it, but I really love the brass showing.
Yes, really depends on each individual's preference. Personally I think painted brass are beautiful, but brass is inherently soft material, The Leica M4-2 with black painted brass I've owned was easily dented with a slightest bump...
Its called T-i not Tie. T-I is the scientific name for Titanium. Not Tie as you repeatedly wrongly called it.
Yeah, but it is made of Titanium. That's why it's spelled "Ti," not T-I, sir.
Film doors are not working on all OM cameras.
OM1n, OM2n, OM 2SP, OM3, OM3T, OM3Ti, OM4, OM4T, OM4Ti, are the only cameras fitting this kind of film door.
I used Olympus OM for almost 15 years and know the system inside out.
You are too obsessed with the cosmetics.