Tony Ngo: ... you can create your own classes. that annoying friend we all have: *_AIGHT! I'm a demi god with healing abilities, who can tank and destroy royals by blinking....blablabahblah_*
Did this man just create a rpg with normal playing cards? The madman, to be fair this reminds me of when I was really young and had no idea how to play any of the games people played with playing cards so I would make my own. Good times.
All the smart kids should have experienced creating a unique game at least once in their childhood days. Existing games are too boring so I made many. Some only needs paper and pens while most are played physically.
Just in case anyone else is wondering: the discard pile is re-used as draw pile once the initial draw pile runs out. This way, wound cards will become part of the draw deck and can therefor be in your hand and played (if paladin).
I can't imagine the feeling when your old video, you maybe forgot about, just gets recommended to so many people and they share their love with you. That must be so frikin wholesome
Some classes I just brainstormed: Druid- Can block each monster twice Ranger- +2 against unblocked monsters, -2 against blocked monsters Barbarian- attacks twice, +1 to all card values, draws only 2 cards per turn Summoner- discard to summon cards of lower value, summoned cards attack once per turn, must discard two cards to summon any royal, summoned royals count as two drawn cards, summoned cards count as drawn cards, if no cards drawn this turn then cannot summon next turn, cannot attack directly Necromancer- can summon monster from top of graveyard after taking damage from a stronger monster, summoned monster attacks once per turn, can only have one summoned monster, can attack directly as well, only draws two cards per turn if a monster is summoned Scoundrel- flip a coin at the beginning of each draw phase, if tails: can choose one card from your deck as one of your drawn cards, shuffle after choosing; if heads: draw one card from your ally’s deck to your hand and draw one card from your own deck and add it to your ally’s hand, do this before any other cards are drawn Alchemist- can discard one normal card and one health card to choose any card from the deck, shuffle after choosing, OR discard two health cards and return one to the health deck Bard- your ally draws an extra card next turn if you take damage, once per game you can instead nullify the damage you would take and return all health cards in both players’ hands to their respective health decks Noble- can attack and block with your ally’s card or your own Priest- If a player (you or your ally) draws a health card, the player who drew the health card can draw an extra card (only one extra card maximum each turn)
If attacked, summoned cards can either add health to the discard pile (as with a normal attack) or be discarded to block (even if they are not as strong as the attacking card)
"And here is the Robot who can normal summon twice a turn, gets +1 on charisma, can tap 2 forests to gain 3 life, and can pay two health to draw a card"
Its funny because the production quality of this video makes it seem very bootleg, since he clearly doesn't have a script for the video and is filming with a phone camera. Obviously the game isn't some crapload, he clearly put a lot of work into Ascension and it paid off
This kind of stuff is why I love playing cards over any other elaborate boardgame. People have been getting creative with them for hundreds of years, and with the internet, we can explore such a large portion of the crazyness
@@robertlozyniak3661 Eh, you can still call it Ascension no problem. People will just have to specify which one they mean specifficaly, like with many variants of poker, remmy, and most other traditional card games actually.
That mechanic of discarding ypur hand at the end of the round comes from a deckbuilding game called dominion, it was published in 2008 so this guy was probably inspired by that
This seems so awesome. Just a simple card game with cool RPG elements. Love it. Ranger class: can take a defeated monster into its hand to use as an attacking card (like a pet)
@@schierlingsbecher7778 no extra rules. We've lost one or two rounds, the rest were won with one player sacrificing himself. I felt the only combination that both survive is warrior/mage. How it is so easy for you? :)
hello Tony, how are you? I would like to adapt that game to solo gaming and I would like to know if there is a solo version of it. Also, I'd like to ask permission to translating the game to portuguese and also to talk about it in my channel, mentioning all credits of course. Thanks for your attention! Regards
Oi. Se jogares com um jogador só a controlar as duas personagens, tipo um normal dungeon-crawl no computador ao estilo Dungeon Master, o jogo é bem giro. :) Não é preciso fazer mais adaptações para funcionar em solo.
You could make a class that is like a summoner and his attack cards are actually monsters he can place to fight by the player's side. Also you could make a necromancer class that could use his attack cards to summon a monster from the monster's graveyard to the same effect as the summoner, I imagine this as the necromancer playing an attack card to reanimate a monster of equal or lower value as the card played.
Ive been trying to develop a game like this for a while.others have too.i think yours is definitely the best take on the rpg game for a regular card deck by far!!very nice!!also..solo..im thinking you could reduce the amount of monsters by say one, and maybe tap colors for aggro turns.so one defend turn black attacks the hero, and then draw discard attack and red attacks the hero.or play two decks solo as a two party team..im going to start testing that this week..act 2!!! Damn the gods!! let them burn!! let their temples crumble! And let them all fall from the sky to face our mortal fury!!!
Eric Dollarhyde Thanks Eric! I've been brainstorming a one player mode but I like your take on having the monster attack in "aggro turns." Please let me know if you were able to make any progress with your testing. THE TIME OF MAN HAS COME
This so freaking cool! Will definitely give this a try. It seems to have the feel of a full fledged card game like The Mind and yet it only uses standard playing cards! Genius!
I mean, I'm not saying I'm glad that youtube is recommending me this video from 5 years ago, but I'm glad youtube is recommending me this video from five years ago.
A few observations: 1) While a very intriguing idea, the mechanics as they currently stand are hardly a deck building or roleplaying game. There is no agency in adding cards to your deck or leveling up stats. The iteration as listed in the description is more of a deck trimming game, or like War but significantly better. And there’s nothing wrong with this fact, I just think that in calling it a deck building game you probably have some customization in mind for further down the road. 2) As has been mentioned in the comments already, there is another card game called Ascension available already that looks nothing like this one. A name change is definitely in order if this is the kind of game you want to sell, but if you’d rather it become an iconic game like Old Maid or Go Fish then there’s no real reason to worry about that. 3) If this is something you’re looking to profit off of, I would highly recommend getting custom cards made to help increase immersion as well as make things easier and potentially more varied. Each monster could be one of several types that attack different classes specifically, like one that attacks Rogues and Mages or one that only attacks Warriors. They would randomly choose other targets if those aren’t available, I would say. After that, have each player keep the foes they kill beside their discard pile and add in a shop system where players can use their slain foes to purchase new cards. They can also choose to discard the body as normal to purge a discarded card as usual. The shop could have universal cards that just work better than the generic ones each class has, as well as unique class-specific cards that are tailored to each class’s intended play style. Finally, after each round, shuffle all the enemies back into the deck and then say they get a +1 or +2 bonus to their value to easily make the next round harder to accommodate for the more capable decks each hero has.
Why is there both an attack- and defend phase? Wouldn't you preferably just destroy a monster in the attack phase to not deal with it in the defend phase? It only seems to be useful to the mage. Unless you can only attack once in a turn?
You can only attack once (except for a mage who can attack for a second time to monsters that are only in the 'block area'). The defense phase makes it useful for non-mage classes to minimize damage and give the mage an attack of opportunity to the monster who gets in the 'block area' during the defense stage.
A few questions here. 1. When the game ends? Do we won at the moment the monster deck runs out, end of the round the monster deck runs out, or the moment we destroy all monster? Do I die when I get 13 wounds(wound deck runs out), or 14 wounds (wound deck is not enough)? 2. If a warrior kills a club monster by Bloodlust, can they get a healing/removal bonus? (even if the suit of attack card is not same with that of monster card) 3. Can a player perform a dummy action? For example, can a paladin attack a monster with a lower-value card only in order to use their ability? (because it requires to attack)
I played this game forever ago with my friend and it was intense. Only time I've ever played. Now I'm looking to play it again and so many memories keep flooding my brain lmao
Couple more questions. Do both players go at the same time? Or does one go, and then the other goes? And if we go separately, do I get attacked on my friends turn? Or do you only get attacked on your own turn?
Roll initiative by choosing a card from a shuffled deck. Whoever gets the highest go first, followed by the second, and the third, until the last player (monsters are included in the 'initiative draw').
For extra content/more ideas, what if there was a necromancer class? Basically, whenever you kill a monster, you can discard two additional cards to put that monster in your discard pile rather than the monster graveyard. This may be too powerful as I haven’t tested it but seems pretty cool to me. The reason I think it could be balanced is cause the necromancer has to spend three cards to do this ability (one to kill the monster and two to discard and add it to their own discard pile). This, while, powerful, would leave the necromancer with no cards left to defend with during defense phase. Clarifications: - the necromancer is allowed to discard wound cards as well as attack cards when using their special ability - the monsters, when drawn, count towards the 3 card hand limit and can be used for both attacking and defending. - the monster deck and the player deck have different backs, so this could be potentially powerful in that the necromancer always knows which cards in his deck are the “resurrected” monsters
Custom Class Class name: Duelist Class ability: Counter attack If the player takes a damage and draws a wound card. The player can discard a card from his hand and add the discarded hand’s number with the wound card, if the sum of the wound card and the discarded card are higher than the monster’s number the monster will be instantly defeated. The player will now put the discarded card and wound card into the discard pile. Class story: The player walks up to an abandoned rapier stabbed onto the ground through the rugged carpets of the now abandoned noble mansion. The player picked it up with no hesitation, as he/she knows that he/she wouldn’t be able to escape without a weapon in hand. He/she closed his/her eyes, memories, endless knowledge of swordplay flashed in his/her mind. Then he/she knew he/she could be ruthless he/she could destroy legions of monsters with this weapon, with each strike he/she will chop off those monsters’ necks. And he/she can do it slowly, one by one, brick by brick and one monster to another.
Here are some ideas I had for other classes: Ranger class has skill Split Shot which allows him to kill two Mob who's sum is equal to the attacking card. (Use a 9 to kill a 4 & 5). Priest or Cleric class has a skill that works similar to the Paladin. When you kill a Mob one of your allies may move any wounds from their hand to their Life draw deck. Warlock class has Life Tap skill after discard phase you may draw back up to three attack cards but from your Life draw deck. These wounds can be used to make attacks this turn only (or until they are discarded, not sure just so long as a warlock cannot use wounds to attack that went through his discard. Only the fighter can do that) Thief class has Sleight of Hand skill after the discard phase switch 1 card between an ally's hand and your own. This can help make sure the team is making optimal moves. Or non optimal :-)
Idea: Cleric, alternative to Paladin and uses Hearts. If the other player has a Wound in their hand, the Cleric can play a card to contest it. If the card played is equal or higher than the Wound in value, then the other player can place the Wound as well as another card from their hand in their health deck.
Blood mage seems like an obvious class choice. I would go berserk with the kinds of effects, would not keep them so simple. Like ranking up when you go through a shuffle and gaining a new ability and possibly effects that messes with the other player cards... Pay me and I'll brainstorm, hahaha.
I would love to see this made into an actual game with cards that explain themselves... you could keep the suits and numbers on the cards, but have art on them to designate what is what (for example, the knight would have a knight on the back of their cards and maybe a description of the bloodlust ability)... then they could have their own health decks which would be the color swapped suit.... maybe that's actually where you would put the bloodlust description and the Paladin's heal, and then just have the other 2 characters health decks say unusable.... or you could do color swapped suits for expansion characters
I got some questions... What to use as health with for 3 or 4 players? How do warrior and paladin draw wound cards? What happens when you're own deck empties?
Archer idea: you can use a lower card to hit a monster and the damage will add up each turn until you reach the amount to kill it . Ex: use 2 on a 5 , its now wounded and need 3 or higher to finish it next turn
What if you kept the Aces in the monster decks and instead of a monster, you could allow them to be treasure chests. To open a treasure chest, you must be of the same suit or use an Ace of your own as a skeleton key. That gives specific items depending on the suit (this can be elaborated on by a per game basis or we could make a different item depending on which class opens it instead).
Cool concept, but are there some changes that need to be made to adjust the difficulty for 4 players? It seems like having 12 Player Cards a turn with a tank for each color is highly advantageous, not to mention the possibility of eliminating all monsters and thus skipping the block phase.
You can only block monsters once. That said, it's either you try your best to kill monsters in the 'block lane', or tank the damage until a card shows up that could destroy that monster.
@@clickbait3753 They could attack again next turn (and as I said earlier, they cannot get blocked again), so what the players should do is eliminate that monster to minimize the damage or tank the damage until somebody kills it.
I just don’t understand why would you ever block. If you can kill it during the attack phase why not? You need the equal/higher value card anyway so why don’t you just use it in the attack phase?
I've been working on a similar concept. It didn't have classes, but rather different suits represented different things. Like Diamonds were money, and the Dimond royals were shops. Where the players could sell cards from their discard pile and buy ones that were dealt with from the supply. Have you considered using the monster pile to create a map? Think something like the Sector map from FTL ( link below) but replacing each node with a small deck of cards. You could organize the monster deck so that you encounter the Jacks first, then the Queens and then the Kings as boss-type cards that would give the game a ramping difficulty as it progressed. Just a suggestion.
Issue with the two people of the same class Colour variety is your normally incentivised to attack things that'd attack you, this switches that around and takes out a balancing aspect.
@@thunderstorm9541 yeah no, another counter wouldn't work cause it's not just a number.... they're filler cards.... once your discard gets shuffled back into your deck, the wounds go with it and the knight is the only one that can actually use them when they show up in his hand.... the Paladin can get rid of them from his hand, but the other 2 classes just get dead cards they can't do anything with, which is the point.... if you've got 4 players, you would need a 3rd deck..... he also didn't specify which monsters attack who when there's 4 players.... is it same color but opposite suit?
This lowkey reminds me of Slay the Spire, we got a warrior who can make better use of Wounds and a rogue who uses more cards but can OHKO anything in the game. Would love to see a single player mode that sees you crafting a larger and larger deck from choices as you best monsters. Having certain cards have additional effects, eg. Joker, aces, royals would be interesting, for example maybe jokers are unplayable unless you use both of them together, to gain a powerful boon? That way, having the Joker given as a choice makes you wonder if you take it and hope for another, or if you pass it for a safer option
This is a very creative game, I have enjoyed it every time I played it. I’ve showed other people this game and they like it as well. Keep up the great work.
2 questions. 1) You say it's 2-4 players, but did you just mean 2? If you use the other 2 suits as wound cards, I'm assuming you can only have 2 players. And 2) Do the monsters in the block lane still count as the 4 monsters out at a time? Or can you have the 4 monsters in the main lane, as well as other mosters in the block lane?
Good question. It is 2 players. However, if you add a third deck, you can have four players since the third deck can supply cards to two more players. I haven't finished testing the 4 player mode but you can add your own difficulty modifications. The monsters in the block lane DO apply to the total count.
this sounds like a really cool and creative way of playing with some deck of cards. i want to try it out with some friends, but call it Discount DnD (not to be disrespectful)
I did understand that when a monster card from the same suit is destroyed, the player may choose between putting a discarded wound card back into its wound deck or destroying a class/attack card from the discard pile forever so it won't comeback into the game. But i didn't understand how or when discarded wound cards or class/attack cards are supposed to be mixed with the player's deck. Also the paladin's ability becomes unclear as well, since he is supposed to place the wound card from his hand back into the bottom of the wound deck. Overall great idea, but could have explained better imo.
Hi ! Do you keep aces in the classes deck ? If so, what is their value ? When you have a wound card in your hand, what can you do if you are neither a Warrior nor a Paladin ? Only discard it during the discard phase ? Your game seems amazing, but we have to read and understand all the comments here to be able to play it :D Maybe a video showing a full game with a commentary would help ! Thanks for your time EDIT : Ok I figured it out ! Very nice game. Successfull run with Paladin and Warrior. I'll go random on the next run (always a black class and a red one, I like it that way !)
Aces are only for act 2. The wound cards are pretty much dead cards. The game is confusing but I’ve found that the more you play it the more it makes sense.
Can you only block one monster during the defend phase or you can block two or three monsters if you have class cards equal or higher than the monsters?
What if instead of puting the monster in the graveyard when it has the same colour as you you put it în your discard pile. This way you are encouraged to cooperate and select what monster to kill very carefully
I don't understand how you are getting wound cards into your hand? Do you have the choice to draw from the wound deck instead of the class deck? Do wounds in your discard pile count as being in your hand? Someone explain.
Wounds end up in your discard pile along with the attacks, when your draw pile is empty and your discard pile becomes your draw pile you now have wounds in your draw pile which will end up in your hand eventually. Atleast that's how I understand it.
I just have one question- what’s the point of using equal or higher cards in your deck to block monsters rather than just killing them right beforehand with the same card? Maybe you can use one card in your deck to defend against multiple monsters, making so there’s a reason to save your cards to defend and an advantage you have to consider over attacking
You should add the rule of deleting cards entirely from the game by killing the same suit to the in depth written version. Got kinda confuzzled not seeing that there and it's kind of an important mechanic.
It does, RPGs like this are very popular, this consept is not invented for the game that he made in this video, the guy here managed to make an adaptation for playing cards of the popular game
“Hope to hear from ya’ll soon.”
Five years later:
Haha
xD
Laughs in hiatus
Now:
he did made part 2 3 years before ur comment ua-cam.com/video/3hY4PnhUEdk/v-deo.html
I do have ACT III saved on my computer. Perhaps I shall take a look at it...
Pin it so people see
yes plzz do, this game looks awesome
YES!!!
Please do it
Adding the joker cards would be a nice idea.
Tony Ngo: ... you can create your own classes.
that annoying friend we all have: *_AIGHT! I'm a demi god with healing abilities, who can tank and destroy royals by blinking....blablabahblah_*
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I seriously thought you were explaining a pre-existing game...
Wait he wasnt???
@@doctore6854 Yep, he made it.
Whoa! Honestly, kudos to the creator for this.
@@doctore6854 interested in games like these?
@@JavaPROx yea. Tryna learn how to play so I can show it to my DnD obsessed friend.
This is probably the most creative game invented with cards, I love it.
Appreciate it :)
Ever hear of Rummy?
Tom Francis made the game Grid Cannon recently and its pretty fantastic.
@@Mrmoocows99 Thx for that game suggestion.. watched the video and read the rules.. looks interesting!
Mao is up there.
Nobody:
UA-cam: I'mma recommend this video from 5 years ago...
Right?
No idea why, but why not?
Same here. In the instruction it hints at an Act 2. I wonder if he ever got around to making that.
@@oldbadname3633 Yeah, he did. It's on his channel.
@@oldbadname3633 But there isn't an Act 3, but it seems like a pretty legit game, not gonna lie
Did this man just create a rpg with normal playing cards? The madman, to be fair this reminds me of when I was really young and had no idea how to play any of the games people played with playing cards so I would make my own. Good times.
It's not that hard. I making a game that has different classes nd abilities too
@@JavaPROx Wow you're so cool!
@@msholdenh669 thanks lol you're cool too haha
What kind of malignant ape man doesn't know how to play go fish
All the smart kids should have experienced creating a unique game at least once in their childhood days.
Existing games are too boring so I made many. Some only needs paper and pens while most are played physically.
Just in case anyone else is wondering: the discard pile is re-used as draw pile once the initial draw pile runs out. This way, wound cards will become part of the draw deck and can therefor be in your hand and played (if paladin).
Ohhh. I was really confused on how the warrior or paladin would be useful at all...
Ohh ok. So the warrior and the paladin are late game characters. Right?
Thanks
The Alpha yeah
THANKYOU FATHER
I can't imagine the feeling when your old video, you maybe forgot about, just gets recommended to so many people and they share their love with you. That must be so frikin wholesome
Some classes I just brainstormed:
Druid- Can block each monster twice
Ranger- +2 against unblocked monsters, -2 against blocked monsters
Barbarian- attacks twice, +1 to all card values, draws only 2 cards per turn
Summoner- discard to summon cards of lower value, summoned cards attack once per turn, must discard two cards to summon any royal, summoned royals count as two drawn cards, summoned cards count as drawn cards, if no cards drawn this turn then cannot summon next turn, cannot attack directly
Necromancer- can summon monster from top of graveyard after taking damage from a stronger monster, summoned monster attacks once per turn, can only have one summoned monster, can attack directly as well, only draws two cards per turn if a monster is summoned
Scoundrel- flip a coin at the beginning of each draw phase, if tails: can choose one card from your deck as one of your drawn cards, shuffle after choosing; if heads: draw one card from your ally’s deck to your hand and draw one card from your own deck and add it to your ally’s hand, do this before any other cards are drawn
Alchemist- can discard one normal card and one health card to choose any card from the deck, shuffle after choosing, OR discard two health cards and return one to the health deck
Bard- your ally draws an extra card next turn if you take damage, once per game you can instead nullify the damage you would take and return all health cards in both players’ hands to their respective health decks
Noble- can attack and block with your ally’s card or your own
Priest- If a player (you or your ally) draws a health card, the player who drew the health card can draw an extra card (only one extra card maximum each turn)
If attacked, summoned cards can either add health to the discard pile (as with a normal attack) or be discarded to block (even if they are not as strong as the attacking card)
The bard sounds pretty broken
Time to get a note pad. I need this!
"And here is the Robot who can normal summon twice a turn, gets +1 on charisma, can tap 2 forests to gain 3 life, and can pay two health to draw a card"
@@JavaPROx uh sure I guess
I'll try to help
this dude can probably make a Shakespeare level story with just playing cards
Can you help me w/my game I'm making?
Me: Mom can you buy me an RPG?
Mom: We already have an RPG at home.
RPG at home:
@Robert James Fischer woah there buddy
this is still hella lit tho
Its funny because the production quality of this video makes it seem very bootleg, since he clearly doesn't have a script for the video and is filming with a phone camera.
Obviously the game isn't some crapload, he clearly put a lot of work into Ascension and it paid off
This kind of stuff is why I love playing cards over any other elaborate boardgame. People have been getting creative with them for hundreds of years, and with the internet, we can explore such a large portion of the crazyness
I wouldn't use the name 'Ascension'. There's already a deck-building game with that name.
I wonder how long before all the good names for games get taken.
@@robertlozyniak3661 Eh, you can still call it Ascension no problem. People will just have to specify which one they mean specifficaly, like with many variants of poker, remmy, and most other traditional card games actually.
@@Jasmixd "specify specifically". Top effort.
@@richardsherman2286 Touché.
@@Jasmixd No. Copyright.
Omg did this guy create slay the spire before it came out
holy fuck you're right
That mechanic of discarding ypur hand at the end of the round comes from a deckbuilding game called dominion, it was published in 2008 so this guy was probably inspired by that
Drifter M false, I bet he has never heard of it.
@@monnd Dominion is great
@@monnd Oh man I love Dominion.
Here I sit
At my computer chair
Remaking this in Unity
Wish me luck, comrades.
Keep us updated, brother!
Godspeed
you bless the unworthy comrade
Ward
UPDATE: phase one of the game (drawing and discarding cards) has been completed. Simplistic visuals were also added.
Well now I have to get another deck of cards. And maybe a friend.
**maybe**
If you like this you should check out the game I made called Luna
let me guess,
you got recommended too.
How did you guess?
Yup.
Yep.
yup
TriHard The Algorithm is weird...
For some reason, while watching this, all I'm hearing is:
*"NOW I WANT YOU ALL TO GO AHEAD AND ROLL INITIATIVE."*
That small moment at 3:37 warms my soul
This seems so awesome. Just a simple card game with cool RPG elements. Love it.
Ranger class: can take a defeated monster into its hand to use as an attacking card (like a pet)
great idea, challenging and fun. played this with my wife now for 6 hours straight :)
We played it but it was way to easy. Do you have any extra rules? Have you lost at least one time?
@@schierlingsbecher7778 no extra rules. We've lost one or two rounds, the rest were won with one player sacrificing himself.
I felt the only combination that both survive is warrior/mage. How it is so easy for you? :)
I don't know what took UA-cam so long to recommend this to me but I'm glad they finally did.
Hey, I'm making a card game similar to this but has more features. Would you mind telling me what you think of it so far?
Recommendations has served me up some good shit.
Underrated channel. Finally regular decks have an appeal to me. 🙃
I’m back three years later, still think this is dope.
hello Tony, how are you? I would like to adapt that game to solo gaming and I would like to know if there is a solo version of it. Also, I'd like to ask permission to translating the game to portuguese and also to talk about it in my channel, mentioning all credits of course.
Thanks for your attention! Regards
Lucas Conegundes e aí véi, conseguiu fazer algo?
Use 1 full deck. Half for you half for the monsters.
Hey Lucas, you are most welcome to do all that. I'm happy to know that other people are enjoying this game :)
Lucas Conegundes Ele respondeu!!
Que daora cara kkkkk
Vê se vc consegue criar um pvp tbm, talvez, ia ser mt f*da
Oi. Se jogares com um jogador só a controlar as duas personagens, tipo um normal dungeon-crawl no computador ao estilo Dungeon Master, o jogo é bem giro. :) Não é preciso fazer mais adaptações para funcionar em solo.
This is awesome. Imagining all of the different options/ways to play. Adding a couple abilities per class and some more classes even
You could make a class that is like a summoner and his attack cards are actually monsters he can place to fight by the player's side. Also you could make a necromancer class that could use his attack cards to summon a monster from the monster's graveyard to the same effect as the summoner, I imagine this as the necromancer playing an attack card to reanimate a monster of equal or lower value as the card played.
Ive been trying to develop a game like this for a while.others have too.i think yours is definitely the best take on the rpg game for a regular card deck by far!!very nice!!also..solo..im thinking you could reduce the amount of monsters by say one, and maybe tap colors for aggro turns.so one defend turn black attacks the hero, and then draw discard attack and red attacks the hero.or play two decks solo as a two party team..im going to start testing that this week..act 2!!! Damn the gods!! let them burn!! let their temples crumble! And let them all fall from the sky to face our mortal fury!!!
Eric Dollarhyde Thanks Eric! I've been brainstorming a one player mode but I like your take on having the monster attack in "aggro turns." Please let me know if you were able to make any progress with your testing.
THE TIME OF MAN HAS COME
This so freaking cool! Will definitely give this a try. It seems to have the feel of a full fledged card game like The Mind and yet it only uses standard playing cards! Genius!
Played this for the first time finally. Really like it. Simple to set up and inspires decision making. Letting you know I look forward to seeing more!
Lemme just remember every frame of this just so when the guys get bored of blackjack, we can continue in *style*
Dude I used to try and make games like this all the time!!! So cool to see a successful card RPG, really good job on this
Hey, I'm making a card game similar to this but has more features. Would you mind telling me what you think of it so far?
I mean, I'm not saying I'm glad that youtube is recommending me this video from 5 years ago, but I'm glad youtube is recommending me this video from five years ago.
Weird recommendations aside, this is actually a pretty interesting game.
A few observations:
1) While a very intriguing idea, the mechanics as they currently stand are hardly a deck building or roleplaying game. There is no agency in adding cards to your deck or leveling up stats. The iteration as listed in the description is more of a deck trimming game, or like War but significantly better. And there’s nothing wrong with this fact, I just think that in calling it a deck building game you probably have some customization in mind for further down the road.
2) As has been mentioned in the comments already, there is another card game called Ascension available already that looks nothing like this one. A name change is definitely in order if this is the kind of game you want to sell, but if you’d rather it become an iconic game like Old Maid or Go Fish then there’s no real reason to worry about that.
3) If this is something you’re looking to profit off of, I would highly recommend getting custom cards made to help increase immersion as well as make things easier and potentially more varied. Each monster could be one of several types that attack different classes specifically, like one that attacks Rogues and Mages or one that only attacks Warriors. They would randomly choose other targets if those aren’t available, I would say. After that, have each player keep the foes they kill beside their discard pile and add in a shop system where players can use their slain foes to purchase new cards. They can also choose to discard the body as normal to purge a discarded card as usual. The shop could have universal cards that just work better than the generic ones each class has, as well as unique class-specific cards that are tailored to each class’s intended play style. Finally, after each round, shuffle all the enemies back into the deck and then say they get a +1 or +2 bonus to their value to easily make the next round harder to accommodate for the more capable decks each hero has.
Definitely agree with all of this.
Good and fair criticism. Maybe use minor arcana cards?
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Why is there both an attack- and defend phase?
Wouldn't you preferably just destroy a monster in the attack phase to not deal with it in the defend phase?
It only seems to be useful to the mage.
Unless you can only attack once in a turn?
You can only attack once (except for a mage who can attack for a second time to monsters that are only in the 'block area'). The defense phase makes it useful for non-mage classes to minimize damage and give the mage an attack of opportunity to the monster who gets in the 'block area' during the defense stage.
There's already a card game called Ascension (it's really good!) and I was looking for videos about that, but now I'm interested in this.
A few questions here.
1. When the game ends? Do we won at the moment the monster deck runs out, end of the round the monster deck runs out, or the moment we destroy all monster? Do I die when I get 13 wounds(wound deck runs out), or 14 wounds (wound deck is not enough)?
2. If a warrior kills a club monster by Bloodlust, can they get a healing/removal bonus? (even if the suit of attack card is not same with that of monster card)
3. Can a player perform a dummy action? For example, can a paladin attack a monster with a lower-value card only in order to use their ability? (because it requires to attack)
I played this game forever ago with my friend and it was intense. Only time I've ever played. Now I'm looking to play it again and so many memories keep flooding my brain lmao
Couple more questions. Do both players go at the same time? Or does one go, and then the other goes? And if we go separately, do I get attacked on my friends turn? Or do you only get attacked on your own turn?
You can go simultaneously. Once you both go, then it's the monsters turn and they will attack each of you accordingly.
Roll initiative by choosing a card from a shuffled deck. Whoever gets the highest go first, followed by the second, and the third, until the last player (monsters are included in the 'initiative draw').
For extra content/more ideas, what if there was a necromancer class? Basically, whenever you kill a monster, you can discard two additional cards to put that monster in your discard pile rather than the monster graveyard. This may be too powerful as I haven’t tested it but seems pretty cool to me.
The reason I think it could be balanced is cause the necromancer has to spend three cards to do this ability (one to kill the monster and two to discard and add it to their own discard pile). This, while, powerful, would leave the necromancer with no cards left to defend with during defense phase.
Clarifications:
- the necromancer is allowed to discard wound cards as well as attack cards when using their special ability
- the monsters, when drawn, count towards the 3 card hand limit and can be used for both attacking and defending.
- the monster deck and the player deck have different backs, so this could be potentially powerful in that the necromancer always knows which cards in his deck are the “resurrected” monsters
I like this very much. Dont you EVER stop making RPG card game videos.
Game for two players?
Yea, I will just play with myself instead.
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You should check out the one I made. It's better
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I have never expected that my cards may be played that way, thx man, it's awesome!
Hey, I'm making a card game similar to this but has more features. Would you mind telling me what you think of it so far?
@@JavaPROx Go ahead, show me.
It reminded me of the mobile game Card Crawl, but then I realized maybe this video came out earlier lol I would love a single player version!
Custom Class
Class name: Duelist
Class ability: Counter attack
If the player takes a damage and draws a wound card. The player can discard a card from his hand and add the discarded hand’s number with the wound card, if the sum of the wound card and the discarded card are higher than the monster’s number the monster will be instantly defeated. The player will now put the discarded card and wound card into the discard pile.
Class story:
The player walks up to an abandoned rapier stabbed onto the ground through the rugged carpets of the now abandoned noble mansion. The player picked it up with no hesitation, as he/she knows that he/she wouldn’t be able to escape without a weapon in hand. He/she closed his/her eyes, memories, endless knowledge of swordplay flashed in his/her mind. Then he/she knew he/she could be ruthless he/she could destroy legions of monsters with this weapon, with each strike he/she will chop off those monsters’ necks. And he/she can do it slowly, one by one, brick by brick and one monster to another.
sup warlock
Here are some ideas I had for other classes:
Ranger class has skill Split Shot which allows him to kill two Mob who's sum is equal to the attacking card. (Use a 9 to kill a 4 & 5).
Priest or Cleric class has a skill that works similar to the Paladin. When you kill a Mob one of your allies may move any wounds from their hand to their Life draw deck.
Warlock class has Life Tap skill after discard phase you may draw back up to three attack cards but from your Life draw deck. These wounds can be used to make attacks this turn only (or until they are discarded, not sure just so long as a warlock cannot use wounds to attack that went through his discard. Only the fighter can do that)
Thief class has Sleight of Hand skill after the discard phase switch 1 card between an ally's hand and your own. This can help make sure the team is making optimal moves. Or non optimal :-)
Dan Langford for the thief, where does the card go if it is discarded?
@@Nylspider He meant that instead of discarding you can switch one card with your ally, at least I think that's what he meant
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That makes more sense
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its time to D-D-D-DECK BUILD
I have some ideas about how to implement armor, enchants, rings, necklaces, loot and so on
I had an idea for a different mage ability: polymorph! Discard 1 card to transform a monster into the card you discarded
Idea: Cleric, alternative to Paladin and uses Hearts. If the other player has a Wound in their hand, the Cleric can play a card to contest it. If the card played is equal or higher than the Wound in value, then the other player can place the Wound as well as another card from their hand in their health deck.
Blood mage seems like an obvious class choice. I would go berserk with the kinds of effects, would not keep them so simple. Like ranking up when you go through a shuffle and gaining a new ability and possibly effects that messes with the other player cards... Pay me and I'll brainstorm, hahaha.
I would love to see this made into an actual game with cards that explain themselves... you could keep the suits and numbers on the cards, but have art on them to designate what is what (for example, the knight would have a knight on the back of their cards and maybe a description of the bloodlust ability)... then they could have their own health decks which would be the color swapped suit.... maybe that's actually where you would put the bloodlust description and the Paladin's heal, and then just have the other 2 characters health decks say unusable.... or you could do color swapped suits for expansion characters
I like this ^^ I might go design something like that
5 minute dungeons is the closest I can think of to this game. Has amazing artwork btw
I got some questions...
What to use as health with for 3 or 4 players?
How do warrior and paladin draw wound cards?
What happens when you're own deck empties?
クラス別特殊能力
Warrior：アタックフェイズでダメージカードをアタックカードとして使うことができる。
Paladin：アタックフェイズでアタック後に手札から任意の枚数のダメージカードを体力山札に戻すことができる。
Rogue：アタックフェイズで1度に2枚までアタックできる。
Mage：《ファイアストーム》アタックフェイズでアタック後にブロックラインのモンスターにアタックできる。
I love it, I gonna try it with my bro.
Are the Act II rules online somewhere ? I'm eager to get more :p
Thanks much for what you already shared.
Sorry for the late response! I'm back into theory crafting so act 2 should be done by the end of this year :)
ive always wanted something like this, same with chess pieces. i love stuff like this
Would you mind helping me out w/my card game I'm making?
Did a similar game, but a little bit more simple with my students. Turned part of the game into counting practise haha
Archer idea: you can use a lower card to hit a monster and the damage will add up each turn until you reach the amount to kill it . Ex: use 2 on a 5 , its now wounded and need 3 or higher to finish it next turn
Keven Bouchard I think that’s a little too good. You would need something to to weaken that. Late game you’d be untouchable
How about weaker ahainst blocked enemies?
2-4 player?? So what will be the health deck for the third player?
What if you kept the Aces in the monster decks and instead of a monster, you could allow them to be treasure chests. To open a treasure chest, you must be of the same suit or use an Ace of your own as a skeleton key. That gives specific items depending on the suit (this can be elaborated on by a per game basis or we could make a different item depending on which class opens it instead).
Cool concept, but are there some changes that need to be made to adjust the difficulty for 4 players? It seems like having 12 Player Cards a turn with a tank for each color is highly advantageous, not to mention the possibility of eliminating all monsters and thus skipping the block phase.
Just wanted to clarify, monsters in the blocked lineup can be killed using a standard attack like any other monster?
Ye
@@hole1274 also, what happens to monsters when blocked, do they attack again next turn or just stay there until killed. thanks.
You can only block monsters once. That said, it's either you try your best to kill monsters in the 'block lane', or tank the damage until a card shows up that could destroy that monster.
@@clickbait3753 They could attack again next turn (and as I said earlier, they cannot get blocked again), so what the players should do is eliminate that monster to minimize the damage or tank the damage until somebody kills it.
That’s crazy. We got the same friend.
I just don’t understand why would you ever block. If you can kill it during the attack phase why not?
You need the equal/higher value card anyway so why don’t you just use it in the attack phase?
You can only attack once unless you're mage.
I've been working on a similar concept. It didn't have classes, but rather different suits represented different things. Like Diamonds were money, and the Dimond royals were shops. Where the players could sell cards from their discard pile and buy ones that were dealt with from the supply. Have you considered using the monster pile to create a map? Think something like the Sector map from FTL ( link below) but replacing each node with a small deck of cards.
You could organize the monster deck so that you encounter the Jacks first, then the Queens and then the Kings as boss-type cards that would give the game a ramping difficulty as it progressed. Just a suggestion.
Issue with the two people of the same class Colour variety is your normally incentivised to attack things that'd attack you, this switches that around and takes out a balancing aspect.
Then how about adding a third player to the mix that controls the monsters' movements?
hey, about the player decks, do we keep the aces? are the aces superior to K or the lowest card?
it looks like you keep the aces for the player deck and they are superior to Kings.
If you have 4 players what is the health
Most likely you use one more deck
or just use another counter, you know how much a quarter of a deck is
@@thunderstorm9541 u cant use another counter, coz warrior should attack by his health
@@thunderstorm9541 yeah no, another counter wouldn't work cause it's not just a number.... they're filler cards.... once your discard gets shuffled back into your deck, the wounds go with it and the knight is the only one that can actually use them when they show up in his hand.... the Paladin can get rid of them from his hand, but the other 2 classes just get dead cards they can't do anything with, which is the point.... if you've got 4 players, you would need a 3rd deck..... he also didn't specify which monsters attack who when there's 4 players.... is it same color but opposite suit?
@@ithalathegayguy can the rogue use wounds to assassinate?
This lowkey reminds me of Slay the Spire, we got a warrior who can make better use of Wounds and a rogue who uses more cards but can OHKO anything in the game. Would love to see a single player mode that sees you crafting a larger and larger deck from choices as you best monsters. Having certain cards have additional effects, eg. Joker, aces, royals would be interesting, for example maybe jokers are unplayable unless you use both of them together, to gain a powerful boon? That way, having the Joker given as a choice makes you wonder if you take it and hope for another, or if you pass it for a safer option
This is a very creative game, I have enjoyed it every time I played it. I’ve showed other people this game and they like it as well. Keep up the great work.
2 questions. 1) You say it's 2-4 players, but did you just mean 2? If you use the other 2 suits as wound cards, I'm assuming you can only have 2 players. And 2) Do the monsters in the block lane still count as the 4 monsters out at a time? Or can you have the 4 monsters in the main lane, as well as other mosters in the block lane?
Good question. It is 2 players. However, if you add a third deck, you can have four players since the third deck can supply cards to two more players. I haven't finished testing the 4 player mode but you can add your own difficulty modifications. The monsters in the block lane DO apply to the total count.
awesome dude, im gonna use your gameplay with my story to make an awesome campaign! really cool system
Is there any place I could get a PDF of these rules? I would like to send them to my Kindle so I can access them without WiFi
I’ve only used the google docs, sorry :(
Uh.. last video 3 years ago. I really hope he is going to read this and ... better late than never, but I like the idea very much!
this sounds like a really cool and creative way of playing with some deck of cards. i want to try it out with some friends, but call it Discount DnD (not to be disrespectful)
3D?
I did understand that when a monster card from the same suit is destroyed, the player may choose between putting a discarded wound card back into its wound deck or destroying a class/attack card from the discard pile forever so it won't comeback into the game. But i didn't understand how or when discarded wound cards or class/attack cards are supposed to be mixed with the player's deck. Also the paladin's ability becomes unclear as well, since he is supposed to place the wound card from his hand back into the bottom of the wound deck. Overall great idea, but could have explained better imo.
Cool I wish he still uploaded I'd love to see more games
Would you mind helping me out w/my card game I'm making?
@@JavaPROx I'd love to help
If we play 3-4 player does we need to put more card in the monster deck? Or does the monster does more damage?
You’d probably cut up the health decks
The game you invent when you are stuck at your grandparents for a weekend and all they have is a canasta pack.
Very glad this popped up in recommended, will definitely try this with friends at some point!
Hey, I'm making a card game similar to this but has more features. Would you mind telling me what you think of it so far?
@@JavaPROx I can def give it a look, not sure if I'd be able to play it though, super busy
@@An0therGuy100 for sure, the page for it is facebook.com/JavaXDGames
I always wanted to be able to play a battling card game with standard decks of cards
Tony this game caught our interest. Please feel free to contact us if you'd like to develop this game for use within the escape room industry.
I dont get the blocking thing? How does that work? They attack each round or?
The DJ- able to attack Twice, but the second attack must be done with a wound card in your hand
Love the idea
I've gotten more use to using Uno cards for my token keeping needs
So im actually planning a care RPG inspired by this.
Would you mind helping me out w/my card game I'm making?
Hi ! Do you keep aces in the classes deck ? If so, what is their value ? When you have a wound card in your hand, what can you do if you are neither a Warrior nor a Paladin ? Only discard it during the discard phase ? Your game seems amazing, but we have to read and understand all the comments here to be able to play it :D Maybe a video showing a full game with a commentary would help !
Thanks for your time
EDIT : Ok I figured it out ! Very nice game. Successfull run with Paladin and Warrior. I'll go random on the next run (always a black class and a red one, I like it that way !)
Aces are only for act 2. The wound cards are pretty much dead cards.
The game is confusing but I’ve found that the more you play it the more it makes sense.
Can you only block one monster during the defend phase or you can block two or three monsters if you have class cards equal or higher than the monsters?
What if instead of puting the monster in the graveyard when it has the same colour as you you put it în your discard pile. This way you are encouraged to cooperate and select what monster to kill very carefully
I’ve only got one deck. Is there any free software I can use instead?
I don't understand how you are getting wound cards into your hand? Do you have the choice to draw from the wound deck instead of the class deck? Do wounds in your discard pile count as being in your hand? Someone explain.
Wounds end up in your discard pile along with the attacks, when your draw pile is empty and your discard pile becomes your draw pile you now have wounds in your draw pile which will end up in your hand eventually. Atleast that's how I understand it.
does every player have their one turn or do they do everything at the same time (e.x draw cards, attack....) ?
I just have one question- what’s the point of using equal or higher cards in your deck to block monsters rather than just killing them right beforehand with the same card? Maybe you can use one card in your deck to defend against multiple monsters, making so there’s a reason to save your cards to defend and an advantage you have to consider over attacking
You should add the rule of deleting cards entirely from the game by killing the same suit to the in depth written version. Got kinda confuzzled not seeing that there and it's kind of an important mechanic.
This could definitely benefit from custom cards (aka health deck showing wounds, monster deck showing monsters etc.) and it would sell million.
It does, RPGs like this are very popular, this consept is not invented for the game that he made in this video, the guy here managed to make an adaptation for playing cards of the popular game
Was this game created by the guy who uploaded this video, or is this only an adaptation from an original game?
original babyyyy