Not really I mean yea you can definitely make the argument that batman isent really doing a good job at cleaning the streets of Gotham But becoming a criminal yourself in order to “eliminate” everyone you deem as a criminal (as in being judge jury and executioner) is just backwards logic Its like walking into a store, crowning yourself as the owner, and then beating the crap out of people when they don’t fallow your store policy
Not really Yea you can make the argument that batman dosent do a good job cleaning the streets of Gotham (its really on the GCPD for it though since they just seem incompetent) But redhoods logic is just backwards, becoming a criminal in order to “eliminate” people who you basically deem as criminals on your own judgement is just again, backwards Its like walking into a store, Crowning yourself the owner, then proceeding to beat people when they dont follow your version of the stores policy
Idk, for me as Jason, Batman is just weak. Bruce has a filtered/PG idea of how the world should operate that he forgets, and choices create consequences. How many times has Batman chosen to spare the Joker and then compare that to the amount of people the Joker has killed? Makes you think you may and/or choose to side with Jason Todd over Bruce Wayne 6 out of 7 days a week. Just remember most of us are a paycheck or 2 lost checks away from being homeless and relating to the Joker than we will ever be the next 100 years to relating to the Batman.
@darthmaul1841 bro by siding with that scum you are 200% weak and hyperitce as your beloved chracter He is weaker alright you say that idiot hyperitce mad at batman for not killing the joker but the question why didn't he do it (hyperitce and more weaker) Jason is a dr0g dealer so you say he is better wow😂
Jason: "But what about the ones who aren't afraid?" Bruce: "I cripple and paralyze them" Jason: "What about Joker?" Bruce: "Oh, I treat him with the most care and make sure that he'll be in a perfect shape to commit a grave crime again"
To be fair, Red Hood has a point in this, if batman can't make someone fear him, or desire change in any way, then what does he do? We already know the, joker fights batman, loses, escapes prison, repeat. Leting it go on longer just gets more people killed.
Exactly idk if read comics but this asshole watched joker kill everyone in church and joker threaten him to get on his knees and pray with him or he’ll kill himself and he did like a jackass😂
Yeah, but there are some who do need helping like Two Face since Harvey had his life stolen from him before he could save Gotham. But Joker. Joker deserved no redemption since he clearly would never change.
@@blueeyeddrago3540 And ow fucking many people has he murdered between helps? He feels bad for being a mass murderer? Boohoo. He still did it and will continue to do it. He'll just feel bad about it after.
@@blueeyeddrago3540but is it worth helping some of them? At some point you need to ask yourself a question of how many innocent lives you are willing to sacrifice in order to help 1 guy and realize that any anwser different than 0 is incorrect.
@@blueeyeddrago3540if I had to be honest Red Hood should actually be in Gotham and should be allowed to kill criminals making them fear Batman and red hood at the same time knowing that there's a downside in Gotham vigilantes knowing that there's one of the Red dark knight willing to kill you for your crimes and genocide
"You wanna rule them by fear, but what about the ones who aren't afraid?" Actually best line for Batman. I mean: Joker, Riddler, Bane...they aren't afraid
@@jameshamilton8720riddler isn’t afraid, otherwise he wouldn’t keep doing the exact same thing. Since when has riddler been afraid? Riddler is far to narcissistic to be afraid.
Jason as a Batman antagonist just works so well bc he’s not the direct opposite of batman or tries to make him suffer/make his life worse, he’s doing his version of justice and is a version of Batman if he broke. He’s sane, he’s methodical and he’s ruling by fear as well. You empathize with him and even his methods sometimes. He’s a direct challenge to Batman’s ideology because of what the ideology did to him and so many others. I like Red Hood Batfam and Outlaw versions but Crime Lord version is so much better
Also Red Hood and Jason himself represents Bruce's biggest failure, his code's biggest failure also. He failed Jason, he failed to protect him, to save him, and allowed monsters like Joker to just keep on going hurting everybody while he lets them live, and Jason is exactly the failure of Batman and of Bruce Wayne. It's a deeply personal thing between the 2, because Jason doesn't just know his mask, he knows Bruce, it's basically Father and Son fighting over their own brand of justice. I also believe that Batman killing would not be like Jason, because he is so much more crazier and vengeful I believe, so he keeps this superhuman level of tolerance of the monsters of Gotham because for him if he allows himself to falther by his code once, he will never stop. Which is also why I find Jason to be more efficient in this sense because he is methodical and he is more pragmatic and does not seem as affected by killing as Bruce, and is a direct challenge to the flaws of the code of Batman. And that is why I just think he is an amazing antagonist.
@@IIIISaiJason ran off to the Middle East looking for his mom without Bruce’s permission. Later Batman told Jason to stay put and wait for him but he didn’t wanna listen again. To be fair to Jason tho, He was tricked by his mother and led into Joker’s trap. Jason was violent and disobedient but Bruce missed having a Robin and put Jason in the role ignoring the danger so they both have blame for what happened
@@ajtallent4501That wasnt what happened in this movie. In this movie batman and robin were on a mission, joker and his goons appeared. While jason and bruce were fighting the goons, joker escaped and robin ran off to chase him alone even though batman told him not to. Thats what led to him getting caught by joker and then killed
@@phoenixdark0355He is the voice of Batman now in the animated movies, he has replaced Kevin Conroy, to the best of his ability and his voice acting work is way better than in Batman Under the Red Hood.
And then they made that dumb what if choose your own path movie, with was just a straw man argument and gaslit you with all your choice to make Jason lose one way or another and say batman was right
@@willwolf8436 100% lol if he dosent want to kill the bad guys then y prevent others from doing it Bruh told not to kill joker to superman when he killed his wife and his BABY !! the audacity man 🤡
The fun fact is the whole reason that Batman keeps penguin and people around it's because Gotham would be way worse if the penguin and the others didn't exist cause penguin keeps all the crime in check
@@octaneeatshiscereal7851 only cause of terrible righting lets be honest. Combined the Flash an Superman could react faster then all the villains combined catch them instantly an they would be dead. We have seen this time an again plot armor wins out for obvious reasons otherwise its a bad show. 90% of all DC an Marvel problems end with the bad guy dying/dead an realistically not writing them back in or giving a bull shit reason why they cant die/filler boss.
@@octaneeatshiscereal7851 that's a dumb excuse. Dude knows the most powerful wizards in his world and can easily go to Dr. Fate or Constantine and ask for a hand breaking said curse. It's just bad writing unless you're willing to admit that Batman is the worst hero in comic history. There are also people like Flash and Superman who could clean up the city on their lunch break if Batman wasn't more concerned about punching away his feelings on the mentally ill and petty criminals. Batman has been the worst part of his own stories for a long time now which is why they created Damien.
That "tell me what happened to you" sounded Guilty. Bats realized that's a dude who suffered because of the criminals he refused to kill. So he knows there is something wrong with his moral code. People who say Bruce is mentally sick might be right after all.
@@varlak9061 Exactly, their villains are some of the WORST in all of fiction, literal child killers yet nothing happens to them cause their heroes are such fucking cowards.
Jason todd a k a redhood was one of if not the most tragic character in the batman universe. He was beaten to death by joker, After being tortured and led to believe that he was abandoned by batman, Then brought back to life and lost a piece of himself in the lazarus pit. And even though he comes back as a psychopathic homicidal maniac, he still tries to do good. Very sad
For some reason I can't tell which version of Jason's story were you talking about here. Did they retcon stuff again or are you mixing his main timeline stuff with the Arkham Knight one?
This dude was such a a great character! The moment the Under the Red Hood storyline was over, that was it for this character. People just didn't know how to write him. They took away the chip on his shoulder.
Batmans No Kill rule is something he inforces for himself and those he works with. He wont willingly let someone die if he can do something about it because thatd be no different from doing the deed himself. If you wanna kill the Joker or ehatever just dont let Batman know until after it is done. This way his own code of ethics wont force him to try to stop you. Batmans no kill rule is inherently supposed to be a flaw and character trait. Its legitimatly one of the things that makes him such a good character and hero but the rule itself, if written right, is not meant to be an objectively right thing.
The no kill rule only exists for batman to be better than his villians. Thats always what batman has stood for: being better. In Apocalypse Now, the antagonist remarks that being friends with moral terror is the only way to overcome it and batman represents that as the dark knight. But, his own insanity would go over the edge if he killed. That doesnt mean its the same with everyone. However, Jason is still wrong because he also wouldnt know when to stop
"But what do you do with the omes who aren't afraid?" THIS is Red Hood. That is what makes him work, the fact he only kills the worst of the worst. Hes not a mindless brute like the writers, and by extention Batman make him out to be
I love Jason, literally one of my favorite DC characters... but no he would not. He is a massive hypocrite, he's everything he accuses Batman of being. He too stubborn, too black and white, too set in his own moral system- unwilling to try understand others, he'd become such a dangerous force crime in Gotham could only escalate in his presence
@@Lauren007Eyou say hes your fav but ignore what makes him compelling, hes not black n white thats your bat daddy, jason cares about children and victims not protected by the law, he only kills in self defense or crime lords, and yes his control reduces crime
Honestly Jason’s character arc in the comics was so good because even though he put his killing behind him, Bruce still admits that Jason is capable of doing what he can’t if the world needs because Jason won’t get corrupted by it
The biggest thing that bothers me about DC is that basically all of the characters see no middle ground between never using lethal force ever under any circumstances, and taking out anybody who so much as gives them a sideways look, villain or hero. If I was in this universe with powers, I’d have a rule, and it would be very public and explicit. First time I face a villain, I use kid gloves (unless they’ve unalived civilians). Second time I face the same villain, I’m breaking their limbs and putting them in the hospital. Third time and beyond I face the same villain, I’m not even trying to take them in alive unless they peacefully surrender. I get that the meta reason the villains always get out of jail is so more stories can take place, but in-universe, the JLA has no concept of the legal system in the world they live in, or how to ensure the crime they stop stays stopped. The fact that Bruce Wayne has never (seemingly) even considered paying to have a meta criminal detention facility built shows he doesn’t really care about the people of Gotham. His actions, over decades of active work as The Batman, have not helped Gotham crime rates even slightly.
Must be a marvel fanboy thats why he thinks its stupid bro acting like he knows the dc universe 😂 bro just stay quiet you prolly only watch marvel's completely confusing storylines and prolly hates seeing marvels character get killed off sometimes. Dont act like you know anything bout D.C. Stick to your stupid marvel characters who are in fact completely overused. Homie thinking he would be any better than Batman or Red hood. Mofo youd prolly make it worse 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
What I LOVE about this film is that there is never a “shocking reveal” with him being Jason. Arkham Knight was an entirely new persona yet fans knew it was Jason from the day the first early concept art leaked. In this movie Batman is pretty much certain it’s Jason from their first encounter and just examines evidence from every time they face to be 100%. At this point he knows he’s 95% certain he’s speaking to his dead son and just a blood sample a way from proving it and the acting is so phenomenal that you can hear in Jason’s voice how badly he wants to return to his father but can’t because he knows he’s too far gone and that he must prove a point to Batman.
Jason is right no one can tell me otherwise!!! Am a Batman fan myself but even I can admit that he can be a little naive sometimes!!! That's why am always on Jason's side whenever they fight
Under normal circumstances, I would 100% back Bruce in that killing criminals isn’t the way to go about it. But this is Gotham. A city with insane, supernatural criminals that has killed probably thousands of innocent people. It’s like comparing someone who committed manslaughter to that of crime lords, terrorists and dictators… at what point to they become irredeemable?
"let me help" you could've helped by ending the joker long ago but no, you let him live long enough to turn redhood against you and your teachings, but hey, you at least kept his code
I feel bad for Red Hood. When Batman breaks, he becomes Justice Lord Batman, or the Batman Who Laughs. But when Red Hood breaks, he's just another Punisher, but one who clings to a sense of justice that will keep him from ever fully service justice or wiping out criminals. Red Hood is just doomed to being a failure to be anything but a reflection of the insanity inside Batman.
Well, in the end, Batman when being an old man decided to make the joker paralyzed by breaking his neck but the joker didn't accept that so he committed suicide.
If DC didn’t constantly, randomly make Bane just a villain, I feel like he and Red Hood would make great allies since they both share the vision of stopping crime by controlling it.
Batman doesn’t kill because of his own personal reasons not because it wouldn’t objectively be better for gotham(even he probably thinks it would be)but because he can’t personally deal with his mind once the gate has been opened,so red hood probably is right logically however the likelihood he could maintain his sanity is questionable at best
Jason Todd is like a violent Peter Parker, because at first (though he still had anger, he never killed.) but even with anger everyone still loved him even in death, everyone still loves him, and when he comes back, even the people still love, Jason Todd (Also idk if it’s ever happened but it’d be dope to see a storyline where Jason Todd picks up the Batman idle to honor Bruce but turns Batman like into a bit more fearful Batman (like Flashpoint Batman or something) plus I imagine Todd’s Bat Suit would probably be sick asf
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On first glance maybe. But really all he has done is invent the mafia.
Depending on the person, it may or may not work
@@crossstar502 Still better than what Batman has accomplished so far.
Not really
I mean yea you can definitely make the argument that batman isent really doing a good job at cleaning the streets of Gotham
But becoming a criminal yourself in order to “eliminate” everyone you deem as a criminal (as in being judge jury and executioner) is just backwards logic
Its like walking into a store, crowning yourself as the owner, and then beating the crap out of people when they don’t fallow your store policy
Not really
Yea you can make the argument that batman dosent do a good job cleaning the streets of Gotham (its really on the GCPD for it though since they just seem incompetent)
But redhoods logic is just backwards, becoming a criminal in order to “eliminate” people who you basically deem as criminals on your own judgement is just again, backwards
Its like walking into a store,
Crowning yourself the owner, then proceeding to beat people when they dont follow your version of the stores policy
"Tell me what happened to you let me help" that was such an genuine and honest tone for Bruce even Jason had to take a second to think about it
He never expected that from him in this movie was the most vulnerable we’ve seen Bruce or Batman in animation imo
Idk, for me as Jason, Batman is just weak. Bruce has a filtered/PG idea of how the world should operate that he forgets, and choices create consequences. How many times has Batman chosen to spare the Joker and then compare that to the amount of people the Joker has killed? Makes you think you may and/or choose to side with Jason Todd over Bruce Wayne 6 out of 7 days a week. Just remember most of us are a paycheck or 2 lost checks away from being homeless and relating to the Joker than we will ever be the next 100 years to relating to the Batman.
@darthmaul1841 bro by siding with that scum you are 200% weak and hyperitce as your beloved chracter
He is weaker alright you say that idiot hyperitce mad at batman for not killing the joker but the question why didn't he do it (hyperitce and more weaker)
Jason is a dr0g dealer so you say he is better wow😂
@@goats_born_in_august1 What's the name of the movie?
@@skybunny6258Under the red hood
You could tell for that split second he considered it. He wanted bruces help, he wanted his dad. But then he steeled himself
No you cant
@@JackThePsychoManiacdamn bait comment 😂
He never really need Batman help and he don’t trust him
@@death-xs8bc he always did just never showed it
@@sokkerfreak in show , red hood tell Batman he doesn’t trust him
"You wanna rule them by fear, but what about the ones who aren't afraid?"🥶
More cold than the highest peak in Antarctica 🥶🥶🥶
@@TheForeskinStealer2820 lmfao 😂😂😂
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Jason: "But what about the ones who aren't afraid?"
Bruce: "I cripple and paralyze them"
Jason: "What about Joker?"
Bruce: "Oh, I treat him with the most care and make sure that he'll be in a perfect shape to commit a grave crime again"
Leaves them in a coma with most of their motion functions gone due to spinal injury lol
To be fair, Red Hood has a point in this, if batman can't make someone fear him, or desire change in any way, then what does he do? We already know the, joker fights batman, loses, escapes prison, repeat. Leting it go on longer just gets more people killed.
Exactly idk if read comics but this asshole watched joker kill everyone in church and joker threaten him to get on his knees and pray with him or he’ll kill himself and he did like a jackass😂
Yeah, but there are some who do need helping like Two Face since Harvey had his life stolen from him before he could save Gotham. But Joker. Joker deserved no redemption since he clearly would never change.
@@blueeyeddrago3540 And ow fucking many people has he murdered between helps? He feels bad for being a mass murderer? Boohoo.
He still did it and will continue to do it.
He'll just feel bad about it after.
@@blueeyeddrago3540but is it worth helping some of them? At some point you need to ask yourself a question of how many innocent lives you are willing to sacrifice in order to help 1 guy and realize that any anwser different than 0 is incorrect.
@@blueeyeddrago3540if I had to be honest Red Hood should actually be in Gotham and should be allowed to kill criminals making them fear Batman and red hood at the same time knowing that there's a downside in Gotham vigilantes knowing that there's one of the Red dark knight willing to kill you for your crimes and genocide
"You wanna rule them by fear, but what about the ones who aren't afraid?" Actually best line for Batman. I mean: Joker, Riddler, Bane...they aren't afraid
Riddler not afraid!? I think U mean Slade Wilson AkA Deathstroke
Two-Face, Professor Pyg, Hugo Strange, Ra's Al Ghul, Zsasz, Court of Owls, etc...
@@jameshamilton8720riddler isn’t afraid, otherwise he wouldn’t keep doing the exact same thing. Since when has riddler been afraid? Riddler is far to narcissistic to be afraid.
Jason as a Batman antagonist just works so well bc he’s not the direct opposite of batman or tries to make him suffer/make his life worse, he’s doing his version of justice and is a version of Batman if he broke. He’s sane, he’s methodical and he’s ruling by fear as well. You empathize with him and even his methods sometimes. He’s a direct challenge to Batman’s ideology because of what the ideology did to him and so many others. I like Red Hood Batfam and Outlaw versions but Crime Lord version is so much better
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Really makes Red X from Teen Titans that much more Bad8ss.
Also Red Hood and Jason himself represents Bruce's biggest failure, his code's biggest failure also. He failed Jason, he failed to protect him, to save him, and allowed monsters like Joker to just keep on going hurting everybody while he lets them live, and Jason is exactly the failure of Batman and of Bruce Wayne. It's a deeply personal thing between the 2, because Jason doesn't just know his mask, he knows Bruce, it's basically Father and Son fighting over their own brand of justice. I also believe that Batman killing would not be like Jason, because he is so much more crazier and vengeful I believe, so he keeps this superhuman level of tolerance of the monsters of Gotham because for him if he allows himself to falther by his code once, he will never stop. Which is also why I find Jason to be more efficient in this sense because he is methodical and he is more pragmatic and does not seem as affected by killing as Bruce, and is a direct challenge to the flaws of the code of Batman. And that is why I just think he is an amazing antagonist.
Batman: What happened to you?
Red Hood: I was murdered by YOUR arch nemesis!
Didn't Jason straight up disobey batman and go face joker without a plan?
@@3fua145no?
@@IIIISai actually yes
@@IIIISaiJason ran off to the Middle East looking for his mom without Bruce’s permission. Later Batman told Jason to stay put and wait for him but he didn’t wanna listen again. To be fair to Jason tho, He was tricked by his mother and led into Joker’s trap. Jason was violent and disobedient but Bruce missed having a Robin and put Jason in the role ignoring the danger so they both have blame for what happened
@@ajtallent4501That wasnt what happened in this movie. In this movie batman and robin were on a mission, joker and his goons appeared. While jason and bruce were fighting the goons, joker escaped and robin ran off to chase him alone even though batman told him not to.
Thats what led to him getting caught by joker and then killed
Damn red hood sounding like Dean from supernatural
That is Dean
Idk if you're serious or joking but you got it correct.
That's because it is him
Twas a joke
@@phoenixdark0355He is the voice of Batman now in the animated movies, he has replaced Kevin Conroy, to the best of his ability and his voice acting work is way better than in Batman Under the Red Hood.
“What happened”
Jason: I can’t remember what happened in September
Nice TLT ref
September 11, 2001
September 10, 2001
where did 5 trillion dollars go government?
September is jeff the killer refrence
Was this not just an Earth, Wind, and Fire lyric? 😅
Jason was the batman DC deserved. sane enough to keep petty criminals alive, and strong enough to just straight up kill those who are irredeemable.
And then they made that dumb what if choose your own path movie, with was just a straw man argument and gaslit you with all your choice to make Jason lose one way or another and say batman was right
@turtle4493 Though in some consolation, you do get the Jason Hush story, Jason killing Joker and going to jail story, and sadly, that's it.
@@turtle4493 there is nothing wrong with being pacifist, but can't allow physcopath murderers roams freely to kill more
@@bestmind-tm2me tell that to batman everytime the joker kills a innocent person
false batman doesn’t have a weakness except that he’s crippled by him unable to kill anyone
“so what are you??!?”
“a glorified janitor, i guess?”
Bros speaking facts he is a glorified janitor cleaning up scumbags permanently unlike batman who throws trash outside only for it to return back lol
@@theabsoluteone2340or allowing it to pile up.
@@willwolf8436 100% lol if he dosent want to kill the bad guys then y prevent others from doing it
Bruh told not to kill joker to superman when he killed his wife and his BABY !! the audacity man 🤡
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The fun fact is the whole reason that Batman keeps penguin and people around it's because Gotham would be way worse if the penguin and the others didn't exist cause penguin keeps all the crime in check
Jason is amuch better option for a crime lord, too bad batman is just... batman
Really shows how terrible a hero he is when he can't even prevent crime
@@jackojock101he lives in a cursed city 😂 duded doing the best he can even superman be catching problems from gotham villians
@@octaneeatshiscereal7851 only cause of terrible righting lets be honest. Combined the Flash an Superman could react faster then all the villains combined catch them instantly an they would be dead.
We have seen this time an again plot armor wins out for obvious reasons otherwise its a bad show. 90% of all DC an Marvel problems end with the bad guy dying/dead an realistically not writing them back in or giving a bull shit reason why they cant die/filler boss.
@@octaneeatshiscereal7851 that's a dumb excuse. Dude knows the most powerful wizards in his world and can easily go to Dr. Fate or Constantine and ask for a hand breaking said curse. It's just bad writing unless you're willing to admit that Batman is the worst hero in comic history. There are also people like Flash and Superman who could clean up the city on their lunch break if Batman wasn't more concerned about punching away his feelings on the mentally ill and petty criminals. Batman has been the worst part of his own stories for a long time now which is why they created Damien.
That "tell me what happened to you" sounded Guilty. Bats realized that's a dude who suffered because of the criminals he refused to kill. So he knows there is something wrong with his moral code. People who say Bruce is mentally sick might be right after all.
So you think the guy who DRESSES LIKE A BAT is not right in the head, what was your first clue?
Even if he's in the wrong, red hood do make valid points
Honestly, it's just about morality and ideologies
He's not even wrong with how psychotic DC makes their villains and stuff sometimes how are they not put on the death penalty
Can't control them by fear forever even the common thugs aren't afraid of Batman no more
@@varlak9061 Exactly, their villains are some of the WORST in all of fiction, literal child killers yet nothing happens to them cause their heroes are such fucking cowards.
@chgaming5059
That's not true. They're terrified of him
Jason todd a k a redhood was one of if not the most tragic character in the batman universe. He was beaten to death by joker, After being tortured and led to believe that he was abandoned by batman, Then brought back to life and lost a piece of himself in the lazarus pit. And even though he comes back as a psychopathic homicidal maniac, he still tries to do good. Very sad
For some reason I can't tell which version of Jason's story were you talking about here. Did they retcon stuff again or are you mixing his main timeline stuff with the Arkham Knight one?
Jensen Ackles voicing Redhood was genius. I hope we get him as our Bat
We did!! In Batman the long Halloween (Parts 1&2)
No no no-ITS DEANNNNNNNNN😂😂😂😂(jk I know the actors name is Jensen😂)
@@CitylightsCyan 🤪 Ikr?? 🥳🥳🥳
Yeah because Batman is the poster child for overcoming trauma
I started crying at this one bc it's true
He really can't get over anything
If batman killed any villain the rest would never show their face thinking Batman would kill them
That's just dumb. Plenty of criminals still show up against Red Hood or Ra's.
Batman: "Tell me what happened to you"
Red hood: "It all began when I was taken in by billionaire Bruce Wayne when I was a kid"
Jason: Makes a solid point that should make Batman question his way of handling things.
Batman: Aye bro, you look like you need some therapy
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Like Batman is one to talk to about therapy.
Batmans first instinct after seeing a killer going after the crimelords is to try and help him 😢
Well….it’s also his son, so I think that plays a part
He is like 85% sure that Red Hood's Jason at this point
@@BathogShathog he is Jason
This dude was such a a great character! The moment the Under the Red Hood storyline was over, that was it for this character. People just didn't know how to write him. They took away the chip on his shoulder.
Batmans No Kill rule is something he inforces for himself and those he works with. He wont willingly let someone die if he can do something about it because thatd be no different from doing the deed himself. If you wanna kill the Joker or ehatever just dont let Batman know until after it is done. This way his own code of ethics wont force him to try to stop you. Batmans no kill rule is inherently supposed to be a flaw and character trait. Its legitimatly one of the things that makes him such a good character and hero but the rule itself, if written right, is not meant to be an objectively right thing.
The no kill rule only exists for batman to be better than his villians. Thats always what batman has stood for: being better.
In Apocalypse Now, the antagonist remarks that being friends with moral terror is the only way to overcome it and batman represents that as the dark knight. But, his own insanity would go over the edge if he killed. That doesnt mean its the same with everyone. However, Jason is still wrong because he also wouldnt know when to stop
Nah is not to drive him to a dark path Batman said if he ever killed anyone he would straight up turn himself into the police but that works too.
Still one of the best animated Batman movies til this day!
Which one is it?
Under The Red Hood@@rubyparker93
Jason Ackles is a great voice actor and actor he was Batman Red Hood and other characters
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What do you do with thw ones who aren't afraid?? That was the line for me
Red Hood needs a R rated movie DC fans deserve.
I’d very much like to see him get his own movie and standalone video game.
"And I'm just getting started."
"But what do you do with the omes who aren't afraid?"
THIS is Red Hood. That is what makes him work, the fact he only kills the worst of the worst. Hes not a mindless brute like the writers, and by extention Batman make him out to be
I love Jensen Ackles performance for this character, his voice just sounds “right” for Red Hood.
Let’s be honest crime is bad but if Jason was head of the crime bro would make Gotham so much better
I love Jason, literally one of my favorite DC characters... but no he would not.
He is a massive hypocrite, he's everything he accuses Batman of being. He too stubborn, too black and white, too set in his own moral system- unwilling to try understand others, he'd become such a dangerous force crime in Gotham could only escalate in his presence
@@Lauren007Eyou say hes your fav but ignore what makes him compelling, hes not black n white thats your bat daddy, jason cares about children and victims not protected by the law, he only kills in self defense or crime lords, and yes his control reduces crime
@@Lauren007E100% agree
@@Lauren007ETbh him only killing joker already made the place better
red hood fucking SLAPS!! his dialogues are written so well.
Loved this character. Broke the rule Batman and Superman never broke.
Superman can kill when he's angry enough, batman is much more stable than him.
Suoerman does kill. He just usually doesn't need to.
Honestly Jason’s character arc in the comics was so good because even though he put his killing behind him, Bruce still admits that Jason is capable of doing what he can’t if the world needs because Jason won’t get corrupted by it
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Movie : Batman - Under The Red Hood
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The biggest thing that bothers me about DC is that basically all of the characters see no middle ground between never using lethal force ever under any circumstances, and taking out anybody who so much as gives them a sideways look, villain or hero.
If I was in this universe with powers, I’d have a rule, and it would be very public and explicit. First time I face a villain, I use kid gloves (unless they’ve unalived civilians). Second time I face the same villain, I’m breaking their limbs and putting them in the hospital. Third time and beyond I face the same villain, I’m not even trying to take them in alive unless they peacefully surrender.
I get that the meta reason the villains always get out of jail is so more stories can take place, but in-universe, the JLA has no concept of the legal system in the world they live in, or how to ensure the crime they stop stays stopped.
The fact that Bruce Wayne has never (seemingly) even considered paying to have a meta criminal detention facility built shows he doesn’t really care about the people of Gotham. His actions, over decades of active work as The Batman, have not helped Gotham crime rates even slightly.
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So very wrong it's frustrating how confidently someone can spout ignorance
Must be a marvel fanboy thats why he thinks its stupid bro acting like he knows the dc universe 😂 bro just stay quiet you prolly only watch marvel's completely confusing storylines and prolly hates seeing marvels character get killed off sometimes.
Dont act like you know anything bout D.C. Stick to your stupid marvel characters who are in fact completely overused.
Homie thinking he would be any better than Batman or Red hood. Mofo youd prolly make it worse 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
@herke7237 them write the counter argument instead of just going "Woah you retarded bro"
This is the most calmest i ever seen Batman after seeing a murder
i love how Red hood is a mix of Spiderman and deadpool design wise
What I LOVE about this film is that there is never a “shocking reveal” with him being Jason. Arkham Knight was an entirely new persona yet fans knew it was Jason from the day the first early concept art leaked. In this movie Batman is pretty much certain it’s Jason from their first encounter and just examines evidence from every time they face to be 100%. At this point he knows he’s 95% certain he’s speaking to his dead son and just a blood sample a way from proving it and the acting is so phenomenal that you can hear in Jason’s voice how badly he wants to return to his father but can’t because he knows he’s too far gone and that he must prove a point to Batman.
“Tell me what happened to you. Let me help.”
“…It’s too late. You HAD your chance… and I’m just getting STARTED.”
"what happened to you?"
are you fucking serious? HE DIED!
He obviously came back years ago since he's not a kid anymore. It's obvious what Batman meant you dingus
Why I love this because he is really testing bats and showing him what happens if it went the other way
Jason is right no one can tell me otherwise!!! Am a Batman fan myself but even I can admit that he can be a little naive sometimes!!! That's why am always on Jason's side whenever they fight
Damn he killed the cool one tho
nahhh u wildin batman said who hurt you 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Batman is more mentally Ill than joker imo
i dont see whats so "wildin" abt it tbh
@@DetectiveDeemoyea except only one of them thinks its okay to commit mass murder and brutalize children for pleasure
@@BurningMarsh you just don't like my pfp it's okay
@@DetectiveDeemoyea, except only one of them thinks mass killing is okay and brutalizes children for pleasure
Went from red hood to batman in the new animated 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Batman: Tell me what happened to you!
Red Hood: I died...
One of my favorite animated dc movies Fr
I wish there was an alternate universe where red hood doesn't get bodied
Yeah, it's hard if Batman is like the most popular character of DC
Sounded like the "Why are you running?!" Scream
Red isn't wrong. More than one of Batman's rogues have shown they won't ever change
You wanna rule them by fear, but what do you do with the ones that aren’t afraid? I’m doin what you won’t I’m taking them out!
"Im cleaning up gotham, more than you ever did!!" Is such a hard line idk why
“You wanna rule them by fear but what about the ones that aren’t afraid “
Such a col line
Batman when family dies😐
Batman when villain dies 🤬😡
Batman must think it’s opposite day or something
I like that Batman doesn’t try to keep arguing, and instead tries to figure out why Red Hood is so hurt
Batman With That “Talk No Jutsu”Real Quick There 🤣
Red hood is STOPPING the crime batman is PAUSING it
No, red hood himself just said they can’t stop crime. He’s controlling it.
He literally said it here
Red hood be running Pockets like its nothing
Jason makes sense. He know who isn't a threat and who is, and takes actions in accordance.
What a great way to start the video
Batman's upset only because he's not in charge of this situation.
Redhood's plan has merrit. That's what Green Hornet was trying to do.
Under normal circumstances, I would 100% back Bruce in that killing criminals isn’t the way to go about it.
But this is Gotham. A city with insane, supernatural criminals that has killed probably thousands of innocent people.
It’s like comparing someone who committed manslaughter to that of crime lords, terrorists and dictators… at what point to they become irredeemable?
"let me help" you could've helped by ending the joker long ago but no, you let him live long enough to turn redhood against you and your teachings, but hey, you at least kept his code
Reminds me of that great dialogue between Punisher and Daredevil. "You hit them and they get back up. I hit them and they STAY DOWN!!!".
“So what are you?!”
"The man who could end him for good."
bro secretly was fighting back his fear of batman's retaliation.
Red told true , batman only fear them not kill them 😮
I feel bad for Red Hood. When Batman breaks, he becomes Justice Lord Batman, or the Batman Who Laughs.
But when Red Hood breaks, he's just another Punisher, but one who clings to a sense of justice that will keep him from ever fully service justice or wiping out criminals. Red Hood is just doomed to being a failure to be anything but a reflection of the insanity inside Batman.
Batman under the red hood ,badass 👏👏👏👏
Jensen ackles voice acting is just💯💯💯
He’s a good voice actor.
THIS IS WHY JASON IS MY FAVORITE ROBIN BRO!! I love his story so much man
Red Hood is Batman’s dark side.
Now I understand why Batman rejected Spider-Man as a Justice League member.
Well, in the end, Batman when being an old man decided to make the joker paralyzed by breaking his neck but the joker didn't accept that so he committed suicide.
Jason isn’t wrong though
Crime was never stoppable, only controllable
Batman: who hurt you?
Also Batman: punching Jason in the face repeatedly
If DC didn’t constantly, randomly make Bane just a villain, I feel like he and Red Hood would make great allies since they both share the vision of stopping crime by controlling it.
"I forgive you for not saving me but why WHY?! WHY THE HELL IS HE STILL ALIVE"
jason...my guy....batman dosent give a shit about you killing them (he dont like it but he'll let you do you) it's the whole mafia thing dude
Imagine if batman: under the red hood was R rated.
Red Hood is my all time favorite DC Character. I love the other characters, but Jason Todd is just a huge standout for me as a character.
Jensen is so good as Red Hood it's terrifying
This movie was an absolute banger
Do you know what it’s called, I’ve been searching the comments 😭
Batman doesn’t kill because of his own personal reasons not because it wouldn’t objectively be better for gotham(even he probably thinks it would be)but because he can’t personally deal with his mind once the gate has been opened,so red hood probably is right logically however the likelihood he could maintain his sanity is questionable at best
Jason is by far one of my favourite characters in all of DC
Red Hood has a point. You'll got to take them out for good.
Joker doing things to Barbara is an example of how good jason is getting because he wanted to save not by fear only by death
This was so damn good..
“Just one last score, Bruce.”
You don't need to be afraid to get put in Arkham.
thats why jason is my favorite out the bat family he aint no pussy and does what is necessary
Jason Todd is like a violent Peter Parker, because at first (though he still had anger, he never killed.) but even with anger everyone still loved him even in death, everyone still loves him, and when he comes back, even the people still love, Jason Todd (Also idk if it’s ever happened but it’d be dope to see a storyline where Jason Todd picks up the Batman idle to honor Bruce but turns Batman like into a bit more fearful Batman (like Flashpoint Batman or something) plus I imagine Todd’s Bat Suit would probably be sick asf
bro when batman met redhood, the very first thing redhood said to him was "what took you so long" then batman replied with "just shut up and fight"
Batman doesn’t like competition in crime fighting.
The guy screaming kinda sounded like tyler 1 in that one clip of him
Batman was like “damn lemme help you gang joker messed ya head up bad”