Lmfao that’s ridiculous. Love the PI system this game 😂. The 918 can also be put in S1 but believe it or not it’s actually pretty good. A little floaty because it doesn’t have Forza aero but it’s really predictable and easy to drive.
@@zerotofifty something is different for sure, i.e. a rollcage now adds PI unlike in FH4, same with oil coolers. FH4 prioritized weight, that's why oil coolers lost you PI (power gain, but also extra weight) so did AWD swaps, which was bullshit for out of corner acceleration on a map with barely any straights... FH5 feels to lean more towards drivability, a 2J swapped car with shit tyres doesn't change PI with turbo upgrades, despite getting like 200 extra hp, and a bit of extra weight as well
Gives me Hot Pursuit vibes. This is my go to car in hyper racing events and the cop car to use in Special Pursuit events due to it's weight and top speed.
S1 is so much fun because of the spread of cars. You have degen'd S2 cars like the FXX, but also fully upgraded beasts like the Ford GT, Supervan and Diablo GTR.
@@MarazBurhan can't drag tires get to lower PI than offroad tires? I would think drag tires are more useful for on road than offroad tires and it's what i've been doing with all my s1 builds
Dropping an s2 car to s1 isnt a sign of brokeness. Yes PI system has its flaws at some points but its not this. Dirt tyres are worse then Veyron stock tyres. Besides, Veyron isnt that good in S1 too despite being downgraded to s1.
Ive found that downgrading to a lower class is actually a decent way to get a Quick car and have fun with it online. Apollo ie with drag tires, 918 with rally tires the likes.. also in a class quite good fun
I don't build meta cars, but I heard they nerfed rhe drag tires so you couldn't build a track car with them as easily, are those cars then even viable?
i feel like game devs go out of their way to make this car bad because its so iconic for it to be known as a heavy car. its still lighter than some cars that are competitively viable
i just hate how the wing nopes out instantly when its below the speed threshold. irl and in most other games it stays up during braking all the way to 0 mph then slowly goes down but it looks pretty dumb going up and down all the time.
You are so competitive man! Awesome. In my Horizon Open races, at best I get 5th. People turn superfast and I always have to brake. Not sure how they do that. Too good for me.
I wish they added another class somewhere. I noticed in the last few games, that every new entry the slowest cars stay the same, but the fastest cars of course get faster, and the PI scales with it. Meaning that many cars I loved to use in S2 are now just too slow and not viable for any class, but at the same time more and more cars are flooding slower classes. Nowadays A class in Horizon 5 is probably faster than S1 class in Horizon 1....
If you think this is broken, Brocky can have 1841HP in S1 class AND retaining AWD and being perfectly drivable as well. All you have to do, is put the last engine swap on it (makes exactly 1000hp and 1000N-m torque), upgrade it to absolute max, make the rear tyres thick and swap to 19" rims to lower the PI to 900. Everything else is upgradeable to the max. I seriously have no idea what part of the stats makes the game think that it evens out with 1841HP.
@w1n5t0nte1st It's an AWD truck/buggy with nearly 2000hp in S1 while retaining control under acceleration and offroad terrain like its an ordinary S1 tune. You bet your ass it's good.
I feel like there should be other ways to reduce a car’s PI rating besides changing different tire compounds and adding weight by putting heavier rims and roll cages in cars. Perhaps the ability to reduce engine power with restrictor plates and adding weight ballast to reduce PI ratings.
Lol I started reading the title and thought it was ganna say And it’s a beast. I have actually been using the Bugatti EB110 on tracks with straights It has better handling and a great top end. It actually has the highest speed of all the Bugatti’s.
@@lunar3278 you’d think the 25 year younger cars would have less drag than the 90’s car, no argument about the weight though Veyrons & Chirons are heifers.
@@187Blondie the new Bugattis are massive boats on land huge cars to disturb the air the eb110 isn’t nearly as bulky. Hell it looks like it goes through the air better than any others. Also I said drag not aerodynamics. Obviously the newer ones have better aero but still lose a ton of speed cuz of drag. That’s why koenigseggs always walk Bugattis after a certain speed point
@@187Blondie sorry I just looked it up turns out the veyron and eb110 are basically the same size. I guess you could say the veyron still looks bulkier but idk
I remember sneaking a damn near all 10 zero uno build awd in s1 last year I used to nuke races LOL it’s only weakness was the straights poor thing had zero power
There are sooo many rammers and wall riders in this game cause the game doesn’t punish them enough. It’s so infuriating when you break and take a perfect turn/ corner but the other dude just walk rides and goes past you without losing much speed. This game doesn’t reward you for driving clean nor does it punish you enough for driving dirty.
um so no-one else wants to talk about how this games multiplayer is a joke or how we haven't really seen anything new or even have had things removed from previous instalments?. i'm a massive forza horizon/motorsport fan but this game even though it has the proper horiozon fetsival vibe again is an absolute disappointment. there is no more competitive racing at all and as much as giving ppl rewards for participation is good n all it removes all sense of progress like why would i spend time tuning and getting good at racing if a newbie can jump in a boneshaker and win every race.... a penalty system that rewards rammers drift lobbies where if you do a burnout you win you cant choose what race you do forza does that so you need a comp car in every class if you wanna have a chance witch seem to be silly cars all of the time( boneshaker, ford supervan, etc)so you need to sit there an search 15 times to get the race you want this was a little rant but i'm kinda fed up of youtubers not doing their job and ignoring the glaring issues this game has.
Gotta love it. The 918 Spyder being put in s1 even though it's a hypercard capable of 200 something easy. And now the Veyron even though it's stop speed stock is 260 lol
So a Bugatti Veyron that handles like a boat... again in a game.
It DOES weigh more than a GT500 tbf haha
better idea. do an electric rally car build for A class and see how competitive it is
It handles really good for a hypercar offroad too
@@Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10 especially with its all wheel drive. TC9700gaming i think did do a rally build of this
Same goes for s1 mclaren p1
that overtake at the end of the first race got me acting up
he knew the pressure was on because it was against Grandma and screwed up big time
Passing someone who crashed in a wall is hardly overtaking…
@@haydenchu58 passing someone is literally the definition of overtaking you idiot
Brag about passing someone who's ghosted lol
@@haydenchu58 crashing like that I real life means dnf
“Handles like a boat” yet this is some of the best driving ive seen from grandma in a long time.
I love the airbrake on the Veyron, makes it look way more sporty.
@@Lofi.z34 that wing did nothing
One would say it makes it look *super* *sporty*
@@Lofi.z34 Not in real life.
it looks cool, but it retracts way to fast....
@@RoamPanda08 Yeah that's very ture, It's about the only thing I dislike about the car
3:20 ferrari guy definetly felt the pressure there lmao
The 2 guys at the end of that final race decided they were just going to drive straight to Texas. Mexico was no longer for them.
😂
No, the party at the festival lured them in lol. I got there too once or twice.
@@MicInc87 hey dog why get shat on by a grandma driving when you could take molly in mexico?
The last race where everyone tried to copy your moves and ended up going off track 😭😭. You're the best man for me 🥺
Gay beta
@@EsKimoS0 шо ты тут делаешь?
Daddy?
@@EsKimoS0 you're the one larping as another man on the internet
@@EsKimoS0 Gay for the right person
4:40 that move around the outside was nice 👍
that driver was good
@@itwilsonboiii4789 did help that he gave space and he had thw grip required for the overtake
yeah was nice of him to show how op the fxx is =)
Yeah for real wheres that guys youtube channel
@@BLanger37 ua-cam.com/channels/PIl7dYxZoeH41qk9oxyP0g.html
5:15 impeccable racing line 🧠
The battle with the purple ferrari was intense lol
It's refreshing seeing someone that's fast - without just drifting through the entire course.
Lmfao that’s ridiculous. Love the PI system this game 😂. The 918 can also be put in S1 but believe it or not it’s actually pretty good. A little floaty because it doesn’t have Forza aero but it’s really predictable and easy to drive.
And said 918 can't really be top of S2, unless you do slicks and front aero lol
@@istvanlorinczi2817 Yeah exactly. I’ve tried that and it’s just awful lol.
They didn't actually modify the PI system, did they? The only difference I'm seeing is a slight modification to power scaling.
I think the Hennessy Venom can get the same treatment as well.
@@zerotofifty something is different for sure, i.e. a rollcage now adds PI unlike in FH4, same with oil coolers. FH4 prioritized weight, that's why oil coolers lost you PI (power gain, but also extra weight) so did AWD swaps, which was bullshit for out of corner acceleration on a map with barely any straights... FH5 feels to lean more towards drivability, a 2J swapped car with shit tyres doesn't change PI with turbo upgrades, despite getting like 200 extra hp, and a bit of extra weight as well
You should do more builds with cars supposed to be in a higher class being "downgraded" into a lower class. Would be interesting to see.
Grandma already did FXX, Venom, Veneno and now the Vyron
@@Barcaholiic should do LFA into A-class
this car always gives me need for speed most wanted vibe
same
2012 jump off the ramp with power shot nitrous vibes I already be knowin
@@jaysway8972 same bro, even in that airport jump, using powershot nitrous then quickly changing to air nitro
Gives me Hot Pursuit vibes. This is my go to car in hyper racing events and the cop car to use in Special Pursuit events due to it's weight and top speed.
S1 is so much fun because of the spread of cars. You have degen'd S2 cars like the FXX, but also fully upgraded beasts like the Ford GT, Supervan and Diablo GTR.
You just listed a bunch of meta cars that I'm least excited to see in S1. I built so many other fun and good S1 cars.
@@avatar94100 Nissan r390 being one of them. People think in mental but she is a beast.
@@avatar94100 i like them, although i think the gt feels more at home in a class
@@bogstandardash3751 R390 is weak.
@@multirampage1 in your subjective opinion.. podium factory for me
Chiron can also be S1, with RWD swap, and offroad tires. It's painful to drive but it can be done
It doesnt need rwd offroad tires are enough
@@MarazBurhan can't drag tires get to lower PI than offroad tires? I would think drag tires are more useful for on road than offroad tires and it's what i've been doing with all my s1 builds
The guy was SCREAMING OUT LOUD for sure at the end
when the supra and camero thought they were going fast and the bugatti just sailed past was priceless
I’ve built it in S1 near the start of the game too. I sort of like it but it does just handle like it weighs the same as the earth
10:58 guy went to the pit stop to change tyres
4:43 that FXX takedown was perfectly calculated🤌👌👌👌
I love it when people find new ways to expose how broken the PI system is 😂
what is PI system?
What's a PI System thoughh?
Performance Index. Amount of points your car has, 800, 900, 998 etc
Dropping an s2 car to s1 isnt a sign of brokeness. Yes PI system has its flaws at some points but its not this. Dirt tyres are worse then Veyron stock tyres. Besides, Veyron isnt that good in S1 too despite being downgraded to s1.
Ive found that downgrading to a lower class is actually a decent way to get a Quick car and have fun with it online. Apollo ie with drag tires, 918 with rally tires the likes.. also in a class quite good fun
What you're missing out on is having the Bugatti Divo or Apollo Intensa drop down to S1 with drag slicks.
Ultima 1020 and many more too!
I don't build meta cars, but I heard they nerfed rhe drag tires so you couldn't build a track car with them as easily, are those cars then even viable?
Divo became a complete garbage in S1.
At 10:58 everyone was sent to shadow realm
"She drives like a steakhouse, but handles like a bistro!"
The Bugatti veyron is basically a german muscle car with double the amount of cylinders if you agree
The first and the last race the overtake was soo sick and funny
your races always amaze me man 😍 5he win was so epic I got goosebumps and my stitches that I got on my hand a wrek ago, Hurt 🤣🤣
I love that the Supersport here is a boat since even in other games, it's a boat
Plus kudos on the Mystery Machine 👀
i feel like game devs go out of their way to make this car bad because its so iconic for it to be known as a heavy car. its still lighter than some cars that are competitively viable
Some properly good races there mate, awesome job!😁
What a good show in the first race love this clean battle
It's really funny seeing you blast past on a straight but then get taken right back in corners
I just won the s1 horizon open with this tune. thanks.
That is a fast boat!
10:58 lol! He was hypnotized by the lights!
Reminds me of fh1 where you could (by tricks) remove stock turbos to lower pi alot, no meta build that way but always had people wonder
Bugatti veyron irl: I was the fastest car on the world for almost 10 years
The veyron in simcades and simulation games: oh no a corner *dies*
Every Bugatti almost reminds me of the Triakis ship from WipEout, very fast but exceptionally heavy and hard to control.
3:15
Oh my Lord that didn't just happen 😂😭🔥
That ferrari driver was driving for his life sad end in the first track
2nd race- “roads? where I’m going I don’t need roads”
Veyron is also really good for S2 class playground games
10:48 epic way to add insult to injury...
The bugatti veyron handles like a boat? Well that ain't nothing new
i just hate how the wing nopes out instantly when its below the speed threshold. irl and in most other games it stays up during braking all the way to 0 mph then slowly goes down but it looks pretty dumb going up and down all the time.
Those Ferraris were doing really good Sergio Perez impressions
You are so competitive man! Awesome. In my Horizon Open races, at best I get 5th. People turn superfast and I always have to brake. Not sure how they do that. Too good for me.
martincitopants "BOAT" intensifies
Look at DC1895 sweating his ass off against Grandma Driving 🤣🤣
I wish they added another class somewhere.
I noticed in the last few games, that every new entry the slowest cars stay the same, but the fastest cars of course get faster, and the PI scales with it. Meaning that many cars I loved to use in S2 are now just too slow and not viable for any class, but at the same time more and more cars are flooding slower classes. Nowadays A class in Horizon 5 is probably faster than S1 class in Horizon 1....
3:16 that was amazing
If you think this is broken, Brocky can have 1841HP in S1 class AND retaining AWD and being perfectly drivable as well.
All you have to do, is put the last engine swap on it (makes exactly 1000hp and 1000N-m torque), upgrade it to absolute max, make the rear tyres thick and swap to 19" rims to lower the PI to 900. Everything else is upgradeable to the max. I seriously have no idea what part of the stats makes the game think that it evens out with 1841HP.
@w1n5t0nte1st It's an AWD truck/buggy with nearly 2000hp in S1 while retaining control under acceleration and offroad terrain like its an ordinary S1 tune. You bet your ass it's good.
Is it weird that I get disappointed when nobody rams you during a race, because of how much more satisfying it is when you beat them? 🤔
you can see someone tries to ram him towards the start
crashing through the barriers to slow down is some big brain stuff negl.
That overtake in the first race was tooo tooo nice brody 💪
I feel like there should be other ways to reduce a car’s PI rating besides changing different tire compounds and adding weight by putting heavier rims and roll cages in cars. Perhaps the ability to reduce engine power with restrictor plates and adding weight ballast to reduce PI ratings.
*GRID 2 PTSD Intensifies*
It sounds so good
the spoiler was like "NOPE" whenever it brakes from high speed
Best xar
The boat that we all love
Lol I started reading the title and thought it was ganna say And it’s a beast. I have actually been using the Bugatti EB110 on tracks with straights It has better handling and a great top end. It actually has the highest speed of all the Bugatti’s.
EB110 has always been the fastest Bugatti on top speed, for some reason lol
@@187Blondie not that hard to figure out lol it’s the lightest of all of them, and probably has the least drag
@@lunar3278 you’d think the 25 year younger cars would have less drag than the 90’s car, no argument about the weight though Veyrons & Chirons are heifers.
@@187Blondie the new Bugattis are massive boats on land huge cars to disturb the air the eb110 isn’t nearly as bulky. Hell it looks like it goes through the air better than any others. Also I said drag not aerodynamics. Obviously the newer ones have better aero but still lose a ton of speed cuz of drag. That’s why koenigseggs always walk Bugattis after a certain speed point
@@187Blondie sorry I just looked it up turns out the veyron and eb110 are basically the same size. I guess you could say the veyron still looks bulkier but idk
10:56
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
The end if the first race was a pretty good battle.
That engine power at the last race...
The drivers at the and.... Ahhhh my they are like my first days on forza
I remember sneaking a damn near all 10 zero uno build awd in s1 last year I used to nuke races LOL it’s only weakness was the straights poor thing had zero power
5:15 Bold move.
Using jag xj220s in next race pls 💙
The end of the last race was savage! F for the Supra.
Thos is a brilliant tune code for the bugatti veyron
Literally amazing boat which has great speed on straight only lol
nice driving!
Nice video 👍, please try SVJ in S1, it's really good.
Smooth sailing
Nice
There are sooo many rammers and wall riders in this game cause the game doesn’t punish them enough. It’s so infuriating when you break and take a perfect turn/ corner but the other dude just walk rides and goes past you without losing much speed. This game doesn’t reward you for driving clean nor does it punish you enough for driving dirty.
Hopefully we can get the Centodeici. Not holding my breath on the LVN, might be a bit tricky to find one...
um so no-one else wants to talk about how this games multiplayer is a joke or how we haven't really seen anything new or even have had things removed from previous instalments?.
i'm a massive forza horizon/motorsport fan but this game even though it has the proper horiozon fetsival vibe again is an absolute disappointment.
there is no more competitive racing at all and as much as giving ppl rewards for participation is good n all it removes all sense of progress like why would i spend time tuning and getting good at racing if a newbie can jump in a boneshaker and win every race....
a penalty system that rewards rammers
drift lobbies where if you do a burnout you win
you cant choose what race you do forza does that so you need a comp car in every class if you wanna have a chance witch seem to be silly cars all of the time( boneshaker, ford supervan, etc)so you need to sit there an search 15 times to get the race you want
this was a little rant but i'm kinda fed up of youtubers not doing their job and ignoring the glaring issues this game has.
hii wanna ask, do u use manual or automatic transmission for all your races? new here and love your races and content!
Manual clutch.
@@IsuckAtDriving damn thx. ur driving are smooth man. keep it up!! wish to learn more from u
Oh lawd he comin
If this thing's a boat, that makes you Captain Phillips
I was trying it in S1 and I couldn't pass any turn with this handling.
10:56 BOOOMMM!!!
3:14 🤣
The w16 eats up on the strait always
Game did that Ferrari driver dirty by ghosting you through him XD
nice driving ... of the boat
What an awesome Bugatti
Gotta love it. The 918 Spyder being put in s1 even though it's a hypercard capable of 200 something easy. And now the Veyron even though it's stop speed stock is 260 lol
Top speed dont mean shit when they lack grip.
you can take the car out of the boat but you can't take the boat out of the car.
That’s the Game that my Brother has Forza Horizon5
Loving the game so far
2:22 Perez vs hamilton at abu dhabi be like
That was a good race
At least the gravitational pull can make anyone in front of you slower
*I woke up in a new Bugatti intensifies*
The top speed in the last race you were flying lol
Someone said that the same thing is with the Vulcan amr but they said it’s an op s1 class car