Wheels on Fire I believe. Or of Fire. Whatever. They have the VHS at a skate shop near me. The ramp scene with the punching dummy on a stick. I had a Jeff Phillips board at this moment in time.
How did this record happen???? Ian and Minstry is a super unexplainable combo. There was an all-ages dance club in Chicago in the 80's called Medusas that played all rave-style dance music, My high school friend went there every week. I went with him a couple times. Every saturday they played I Will Refuse and there would be a circle pit every time. So weird.
This was still fairly early days for Al - he hadn't derailed as much as he would in later years. Remember he started out playing sparkly glam pop. But yeah - can't imagine him being clean at the time and Ian overlooking his philosophy
I saw the Exploited and Biohazard at medusas 1991. The pit for the Exploited was insane, skins all around it smash everyboby that came by. I went in once went straight across to the other side and walked around to my friends.
Ian talks about it in an interview with Vish and Steve Albini. Basically says it was 'a wrinkle in time' and that he didnt know what he was getting into.
Killing Joke are my favourite band. It's weird that I never thought about their influence on this particular album, but yeah. It's right there in every element. I guess I just never "connected the goddamned dots" :P
I played the crap out of this cassette! This and my VHS copy of In case you didn't feel like showing up concert were played daily for a good year at least.
As many times as I've heard this song, I obviously hear uncle Al/ ministry influence, HOWEVER iam just now picking up not-so-subtle hints of KILLING JOKE. ... or is that just me?
@@MrEyeM lol reverse Midas touch. That guy still has some good songs left in em he’s just lost a spark and I think the whole drama with Sepultura hasn’t helped
@@simonmagus1892 Being an uninformed cυητ is OK... as long as you don't try to unnecessarily poison others with your ιdισcγ; if your eardrums were useful, you'd know that a minor 2nd interval is not the same as an augmented 4th/diminished 5th just by listening to it (intuitively). Have a nice day.
Track 3 *"Don't Stand in Line"* was used in the Santa Cruz Streets On Fire skate video during the mini house ramp session. ua-cam.com/video/6k2cJDX3teU/v-deo.html #Sk8rBoy #80sKid #SantaCruzSkates
this is such a killing joke ripoff. the first song sounds *exactly* like "the wait" off their 1980 album, right down to the tempo, guitar riff/tone, rhythm, drum beat, and overall production. ua-cam.com/video/JhIl8uzJt0U/v-deo.html
F$$k you al you still owe me from your fuk up at Lollapalooza tour in Los Angeles you were so fup you did a one hit wonder super automatic fuk u all pay up I went and paid the ticket to see ministry
@@stevenmccarthy534 in 1992 ministry headlined the lollapalooza tour I went to the Los Angeles show my problem was ministry only played 2 songs due to the fact that jourgensen was 2 fucked up to play...basically ripped me off
![Channel 3 - After The Light Go Out [FULL ALBUM]](/img/n.gif)
0:00 man should surrender
3:39 anthem
8:23 don't stand in line
12:09 ballad
16:00 i will refuse
20:16 no bunny
god bless
💋
A hero without the cape
Ian McKay has done so much for music.....this is my favorite album of all time...highly underrated album
Listening in 2020 and couldn't be more revalent to our times
S.A.L.V. This moment right now
@@nashjeffers yes, I meant relevant, lol, thanks, updated
No One care
@@Mark-xw2rx just the way I like it
The drummer on "No Bunny" is the great Eric Spicer of Chicago punk legends Naked Raygun. Big respect.
Been a big fan of Minor Threat and Ministry for years. Had no idea this EP existed. Feel like I was robbed of 30+ years. What a great EP!
This Music never gets old.
Back in the 90s it took me forever to get this album now I can share it with everyone. To date still one of my fav collab album. Just perfection.
skateboarding and falling over stuff 10/10
Wheels on Fire I believe. Or of Fire. Whatever. They have the VHS at a skate shop near me. The ramp scene with the punching dummy on a stick. I had a Jeff Phillips board at this moment in time.
How did this record happen???? Ian and Minstry is a super unexplainable combo. There was an all-ages dance club in Chicago in the 80's called Medusas that played all rave-style dance music, My high school friend went there every week. I went with him a couple times. Every saturday they played I Will Refuse and there would be a circle pit every time. So weird.
My band opened for them, pigface and ministry... Great time frame
@@lastup4170 your band being? I was probably at one of those shows if it was early - mid 90's
This was still fairly early days for Al - he hadn't derailed as much as he would in later years. Remember he started out playing sparkly glam pop. But yeah - can't imagine him being clean at the time and Ian overlooking his philosophy
I saw the Exploited and Biohazard at medusas 1991. The pit for the Exploited was insane, skins all around it smash everyboby that came by. I went in once went straight across to the other side and walked around to my friends.
Ian talks about it in an interview with Vish and Steve Albini. Basically says it was 'a wrinkle in time' and that he didnt know what he was getting into.
This was a great record back in the day. Very much in vein of Killing Joke but hey, it's nothing wrong in taking inspiration from the best.
I have tried for years to get into Killing Joke.
Yeah, I'm glad Killing Joke took the advice
Killing Joke are my favourite band. It's weird that I never thought about their influence on this particular album, but yeah. It's right there in every element. I guess I just never "connected the goddamned dots" :P
@@glenbellefonte9620 try harder
Totally forgot about this album. Need to find the CD, NOW!!!!!
more relevant than ever
What do you think now? LOL this shit is nuts!!
Wow. Haven't heard this in 25 years!
1988! the good ole days, sounds like Al Jorgensen meets Minor Threat/Fugazi .
It's the Fugazi guy on vocals (Ian MacKaye)
@@andy_manns and MINISTRY
they are!
Lol... that's exactly what this album is
Because it is - Jourgensen and McKay do something that is more like Killing Joke...
Genius!!! Still
Matt Hoffmans BMX introduced me to pailhead via i will refuse. The early 2000s treated me to good music
thank you uploading this. i got this on vinyl when i came out and ive not hear it for 30 plus yrs... i will refuse is reignition and the soul awakens
How the fuck this does not have 10 million views is beyond me.
Don't Stand in Line... great mix of Al and Ian.
Another awesome album that I had on a cassette that got damaged. Thanks for the upload, Max!
same same :)
Thanks a million for uploading this!
quality product
My soul died in Wax Trax in December of 1991. My body died in 2009 but my soul came back at least. Undeath is better than living was.
What happened Dark Modern, did Al Jourgensen got you wasted??? ;)
i luv wax trax
I played the crap out of this cassette! This and my VHS copy of In case you didn't feel like showing up concert were played daily for a good year at least.
Lightning in a bottle! Any attempt to recapture this magic would have been/would be madness.
SKATE OR DIE
Should of worn my Pailhead shirt today.
This music isn't stuck in time.
So much Killing Joke influence in this project
So much Fugazi and Ministry influence in this project....go figure.
@@sicottish There are indeed Kiling joke influences on this record, why the irony?
This album is so f***** sick.
EP*.
Fugothi
hahaha
Yesss
As many times as I've heard this song, I obviously hear uncle Al/ ministry influence, HOWEVER iam just now picking up not-so-subtle hints of KILLING JOKE. ... or is that just me?
in fact is Al from Ministry and Ian Mackaye from MT/Fugazi
Maybe Paul Raven is on Bass Guitar?
MINORSTRY
Minor Ministry
Great colaboration. Add Cavelera you got homemade dynomite
how about no. nowdays (since quite some years actually..) max cavalera has the reverse mida's touch
That's called NAILBOMB, WAY BETTER THAN THIS , lol
@@MrEyeM he's had a lot of haters.
@@MrEyeM lol reverse Midas touch. That guy still has some good songs left in em he’s just lost a spark and I think the whole drama with Sepultura hasn’t helped
Mackaye sounds like al at some points, bad ass
Relevant as hell.
Amebix meets Killing Joke in a accidental industrial explosion? Strange brew but it works. Never heard before. Nice.
yeah this is more than a little derivative of killing joke's first album. especially the song "the wait" ua-cam.com/video/JhIl8uzJt0U/v-deo.html
it´s Ian Mackaye and Al Jourgensen. Mighy collab.
Victory! There's more! Faster than light and Harder!
Reminds me of killing joke song
the first song is a blatant ripoff of "the wait"
@@simonmagus1892 Damn. You can't let it go, can you?
@@glenbellefonte9620 nope
@@simonmagus1892 Being an uninformed cυητ is OK... as long as you don't try to unnecessarily poison others with your ιdισcγ; if your eardrums were useful, you'd know that a minor 2nd interval is not the same as an augmented 4th/diminished 5th just by listening to it (intuitively).
Have a nice day.
Skateboarding? This is discipline ..O:-)
Pailhead needs to reunite
13 doses of acid * this is fucking tight
cool ! 'sounds like killing joke .
thx
NO BUNNYYYYYY
Fuckin' eh! Thanks for sharing.
Ok I said this was my favorite album 3 years ago too
yes
they must had keep on this project
The algorithm read my mind and this appeared in suggested
Oh yeah
The capitol on the cover is a little crazy now right?
WAXTRAXBAYBAY!!!
Black Box
Murder and weather is our only news
I will refuse!
Track 3 *"Don't Stand in Line"* was used in the Santa Cruz Streets On Fire skate video during the mini house ramp session. ua-cam.com/video/6k2cJDX3teU/v-deo.html #Sk8rBoy #80sKid #SantaCruzSkates
Well this is my favorite album...or is it minor threat outa step
Surrealism, actually
this live was like sex in a car crash, so lovely but most people wouldn't get it
They never played live with Ian though….
This is pure dynamite! It makes me remember Bleach of Nirvana, Greetings
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘👍👍👍👍👍🖤🖤😎😎⚡⚡⚡
Santa Cruz Skateboards
Fugistry
MINSITRY THREAT
Santa Cruz cory o brian
they are Bob Marley of punk
Misled Youth
😉
"God Bless Amerikkka" 😂🇺🇸
🌈
Killing Joke anyone?
Why, because the vocals occasionally sound a tiny bit like Jaz Coleman? Nup, not even close.
@@KevKavanagh chill out out - it was only an observation
Totally influenced in many ways not only the voice like the agressive fan boy pointed out.
this is such a killing joke ripoff. the first song sounds *exactly* like "the wait" off their 1980 album, right down to the tempo, guitar riff/tone, rhythm, drum beat, and overall production.
ua-cam.com/video/JhIl8uzJt0U/v-deo.html
McKay is such a hack.
😆
F$$k you al you still owe me from your fuk up at Lollapalooza tour in Los Angeles you were so fup you did a one hit wonder super automatic fuk u all pay up I went and paid the ticket to see ministry
huh? lalapaloser? lol hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhhahah thats the worse festival, the festival of POSERS!
Uuuhhh,????? Huh??
@@stevenmccarthy534 pailhead is a collaboration between Ian from minor threat and al jourgensen from ministry....
@@jukepablooner I'm aware of who Pailhead is!! Hahaha 🤣 I just didn't understand your post about lollapalooza!!
@@stevenmccarthy534 in 1992 ministry headlined the lollapalooza tour I went to the Los Angeles show my problem was ministry only played 2 songs due to the fact that jourgensen was 2 fucked up to play...basically ripped me off
Minor Threat was the sh$t.
This is horrible. Ian and Al from 1988? What? Never knew. Thank God, lmao
Pull your head out of your ASS and LISTEN to it again.
it's good, dude
@@seanthorton3054 😂👍👌
How dare you have a divergent opinion!
Must be tone deaf
excellent stuff!