When dealing with the likes of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, those European and Asian banks had no chance. I would have bet my life savings that it would be one of these two who would try to pull a fast one on the others.
Anyone who claims to believe heavily in religious values while engaging in activities that have nothing to do with religion tends just be using religion as a shield from criticism and to gain trust by implying they will act morally.
Those who built their fortunes largely from scratch often do it from an inner drive to succeed. Money and the things it can buy are just tangible evidence of their success. Those who inherit their money often just drift along in life, dabbling in the arts or philanthropy.
Mate i agree highly. I lived with a close mate (not anymore) who is a devout Christian and obsessed with trading stocks. He earned good money as a high up manager. But will never hire a tradesman to render/repair his house. Either its me bandaiding/repairing wear and tear or other mates for a carton of alcohol. When i moved out the washing machine hot/cold facets had busted off the wall & flooded the house. Instead hiring a plumber he paid someone off Gumtree/craigslist for $50..... the repair job was even worse. My "close mates" reaction " this breaks my heart my faith was in that man to help me out" 😑
If the guy just discloses that he’s a member of a certain religion, okay great. It is a huge part of people’s lives, so there’s no issue with that affecting his life outside religious gatherings. If he inexplicably makes it a huge part of why you should entrust him with ridiculous amounts of money in an industry that’s all too similar to gambling, yea he’s just manipulating people
If you win while praying for your christian god, it is god who has helped you win. If you lose, it is god that's telling you it does not belong to you. That is why your christian god on the other hand, is never wrong anyway.
i tried leverage trading with bitcoin once. the leverage was set to 100x but i had no idea what it meant, i just thought i was spot trading. within 30 minutes, i turned my $100 into $300, and then lost it all in the next 5 minutes
You both made the same mistake he did, when using leverage to any degree you have to reduce your "exposure". Your exposure is the percentage of your portfolio you place at risk. Rule of thumb when using leverage is to only use 10% of your typical exposure which is typically only 10% or less of your total portfolio. So if you do the math 10% of 10,000 is 1,000 amd 10% of that is 100. You do this because when in the case say 100x leverage 100 is multiplied (you borrow) 100 times your collateral 100 time 100 is 10,000. Doing this allows you to greatly increase the diversity of your portfolio. As a portfolio with $10,000 is equivalent to a portfolio of $1,000,000 dollars, only difference is the fact that you are extremely exposed to broad market volatility. As you could see from the example when the market turns out of your favor in one area you may be forced to liquidate other positions to compensate the losses.
Yep, talk about an emotional rollercoaster. That's why I throw 75% of my retirement into a Vanguard S&P index fund me let it ride. I'll allow 10%, max, for high risk gamble. I'll be honest though, I bought a lot of gold before during the covid debacle and feel like a genius, even though I know it was dumb luck.
That ROI will turn $1000 into $2,270,000. Has nothing to do with the initial investment and everything to do with the rate of return. But "Muh rich people" right?
That’s because he ran something called a “small family office”. This type of hedge fund doesn’t take outsider funds and only takes money from… family and friends. Less scrutiny from SEC, more leverage opportunities, less client disclosure. But your also trading with less principal capital.
@@Zyphera not really. money is supposed to represent "value" hence it is subjective. think of a louis vuitton bag. it costs $50 to manufacture yet it retails in the thousands. and someone will pay that amount. because they see some sorts of intangible value in it. value is subjective.
@@RudolfJvVuuren very smart unfortunately. But sometimes criminal. Any time the investor gives money to a guy like this, they are trusting they know what they’re doing. That’s their mistake. It’s always smarter to gamble with someone else’s money. Win and you’re a hero. Lose and it’s THEIR problem
@@Meatball2022 I mean, dude is probably in protection for his life rn. You don’t lose billions of dollars and get off easily. You can fuck with poor people’s money, but fuck with rich people’s money and you’re a dead man.
He done something similar before and bank forgive him after 2-3 years and started lending him money again. And this time maybe another 2-3 years they will do the same thing
Trust me - as a trader - there are good and bad days--- Just because he lost that amount in a day doesn't make him a bad trader- he just have to go back to the drawing board and revise his risk management ! his lost doesn't take away how brilliant he is in taking millions to billions! and people who have the skill will tell you - "I can lose it all and still go get it again tomorrow" ! im sure he will raise again !
The amazing thing about this story is that if we stopped it prior to him yeeting it all away, it'd be one of those inspirational self-made billionaire stories. Hwang's appetite for risk made him rich, but it was also responsible for his downfall.
it also shows that a persons ideas and beliefs , the very things that drive their actions and thus make what he or she is, are way more important than what they have managed to "achieve" in life, as they can very easily loose every thing they gained due to their beliefs and ideas being fundamentally flawed and unsustainable
This sounds exactly like the people in Wallstreetbets. The same people that make a million dollars due to their risk tolerance, but that same risk tolerance ends them losing all their money a few days later
@@georginam824 I hate to defend Hwang, but the money he risked was either his or entrusted to him by personal friends. Archegos was a family office. It's why his personal net worth skyrocketed alongside the fund - even successful hedge fund managers don't see a 1:1 correlation between personal net worth and fund performance. So technically, he wasn't actually gambling with other people's resources. He's more like that guy who went bankrupt gambling at Las Vegas.
I paused too, since that seemed like a glaring mistake (I'm Greek too). Then I googled "archegos etymology" and, for some reason, the first result I got was this Definition 1.The chief leader, prince a. of Christ www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/archegos.html
It can if people practice what they preach. This guy was a fraud who used the faith to serve his interests not God's. Sadly not very uncommon. But people use anything for leverage these days.
Bill Hwang, a well educated, savvy investor with the instincts of a hardened gambler and the missionary zeal of a religious extremist. Dangerous combination of three combustible materials. The secrecy of the whole thing was the most important part, I think, that made it so lethal.
"A well educated, savvy investor with the instincts of a hardened gambler and the missionary zeal of a religious extremist. Dangerous " If you think about don't all all those things cancel each other out to some degree ?
I left this part of the Financial industry a few months before the whole archegos story was out. I had a contact at one of the Banks mentioned and they worked in a department that was somewhat closely associated(not fully) with Bill, When he call in looking for money My contact said he would alway end the call with "have a blessed day and thank you for doing gods work" and it just seemed off to him but his superiors told him its just who bill was. To me dude sounded like the scamTelevangelist you see on TV.
haha what's wrong with that - that was his believe- I thought we were in a world were people can be themselves. He was doing business with the bank- its not like they were giving him money for free!
The fact that he's still alive and sane after losing 20 billion $ in 2 days is proof that he is no average guy. Making 20 billion $ is in itself a feat, but surviving its loss is a span of time so short?? Goddamn
He is probably very cold blooded which is a blessing and a curse as a trader. A blessing because wins or losses are both taken with no emotion but also a curse because you are ok with losing a bunch of other peoples money with no remorse or feeling of obligation to those investors.
it's incredible how many intelligent people can be infected by religion to the point where they say stuff like this and not even realise their own stupidity. At its very worst, they can even be convinced to fly planes into buildings.
Note that the guy who is interviewing Bill Hwang is literally starting to laugh in Bill's face, (6:36) when bill says he wants investors to "now the reality of God."
Yes how does someone know the mind that pops up with 404 error every time multiple messages try to describe it. Hard to describe a mind that has been seemed to be offline since BCE.
You know just what I like to see! I've been wondering who was going to be the first to make a good video about Archegos because I'm certainly interested in WTF they did and what exactly happened, but not enough to actually look up and read articles from multiple sources to learn about it.
Such a insightful video, I have watched this 3 times now and I keep coming back to watch it all again. You make content live and that lands right in my mind :)
The way you effortlessly switch between different pronunciations of Hwang to calling this man Bill like he’s your friend has me DEAD! 🤣 Keep up the good work!!!
At one time, I worked for a 410k retirement plan company that handles retirements plans for transamerica, vanguards, and all others 410k and IRA corporations operating in America. I can tell you, at first that retirement plans are a scam designed to make investors money without spending a dime of their own money.
When you work on something that only has the capacity to make you 5 dollars, it doesn't matter how much harder you work. The most you will make is 5 dollars, very simple.
Financial Times & The Economist are scratching their heads, "How are we not able to produce contents like this? How is one-man band UA-camr making richer and more engaging contents in our niche, our bread and butter?"
@@enkidu9298 True. I'm not knocking God. He gives people the ability to make profit. I'm knocking people who use God as a shield for their own ineptness. Like you take these risks and pray for a miracle when God gave you a mind to make better decisions.... Rather let people think you are a crook and don't drag God into it. In my opinion.
I actually thought God told me to buy Nio stock and never worry about money again. I did and I don't have to worry about money again. I'm also bipolar and can get delusional from time to time.
It just means he had only family working with him like the mafia so they could ensure any illegal activity wouldn’t be leaked by future employees because they were all family and all benefited from it. Churches have been doing this for a while. Pastors appointment only family members to the churches board so any money that is being stolen from the members is never leaked because anybody in the know is family and is benefiting from the nefarious activities.
I love this channel. The content of this channel has transformed from great technology videos like HTC, Samsung, GE, Tesla to scam buster in recent years. Previously it was an inspiration now it has become just an information blog
I find it funny how he was playing the GOD card and throwing GOD into everything, as a way to justify what he was doing, when in fact he was nothing more than an gambling addict. LOL
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.” - Jesus.
That's not what happened and I wish people would look at actual facts instead of taking conjecture and running with it. RobinHood is shady as f, but at least go after them for actual crimes and shady stuff instead of a lack of liquidity forcing a suspension.
@@snowballeffect7812 >conjecture Uh they suspending the ability to buy, and fucking with the market. Tell us how thats conjecture. Its literally out in the open.
@@snowballeffect7812 Their liquidity was in question because citadel is the biggest customer of robin hood, and was about to become a pile of sh1t it it should be. They stopped trading with the intention of stopping a short squeeze. And slowly allowed bying after citadel had been handed a big fat financial aid by other players so they don't cause a domino effect.
This is a good video on the background and mechanics of this, but I’d like to mention the Chinese government’s tightening on foreign listed (US) stocks and regulation on certain stocks such as online education stocks (which iirc were essentially banned overnight). He had heavy, leveraged positions in a couple of these stocks and almost overnight he lost an insane amount on them. I still remember when this happened and watching the market.
Was looking for this comment. God is giving him a third chance now to live a "poor" man's life worth of entering heaven. Who wants to take bets on him going for that third try. Of course we are going to use borrowed money who's in?
@@AgerioBoss literally every translation says "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." STFU just admit Jesus was a dirt poor socialist and not fucking supply side corporate shill Jesus.
Hey, this is unrelated, but I'd love to see you do a video on Apple and it's knowing use of slave labor in its supply chain. Only extremely small UA-cam channels are making content on it, and seeing it being discussed on a larger channel like this one or MKBHD's would be amazing. You've covered some Apple related topics in the past.
Great video as always Dagogo! I was hoping you can make a documentary on the financial crisis of 2008 which caused the bankruptcy of major banks like Lehmann Brothers, because not many of us know how distressing that period was.
the big short kinda has an okay (entertaining with a bit of truth) explenation of what was going on. the ENTIRE FUCKING GLOBAL BANKING industry was just not doing ANY investigation into housing loans, and was letting greedy people ACT like it was sure thing money for 25 years.
here is my problem I have been making losses trying to make trade. I thought to trade demo is just like the real..can anyone help me out or at least tell me on what to do.
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The five banks basically reenacted the prisoner's dilemma. Except, they were allowed to communicate and they still failed.
When dealing with the likes of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, those European and Asian banks had no chance. I would have bet my life savings that it would be one of these two who would try to pull a fast one on the others.
“Prisoner’s Dilemma? No dilemma about it, the other guy was too slow.”
Basic backstabbing
From a game theory expert view, the most rational action when you encounter a prisoners dillemma, is to cheat/backstab first.
Can someone explain this prisonets dilemma?
LTCM did the same thing back in 1998-“Trust us, we’re the smartest guys in the business.” Massive amounts of leverage.
ahh good ol LTCM. seems they never learn
Yeah using risky algorithms that aren't fully tested and 100x leverage is basically a recipe of disaster
We want a video on LTCM strategy and it's fallout by coldfusion
@@dustinreynolds1552 it is . In this business risk management is the most important
whiffs of enron. lol
Anyone who claims to believe heavily in religious values while engaging in activities that have nothing to do with religion tends just be using religion as a shield from criticism and to gain trust by implying they will act morally.
Isn't that what everyone does ?
Or a nutbar
@@skindred1888 Religious people are always scammers and/or nuts and/or dumb.
@@Znwarp Yep
Anyone who is a Christian and a capitalist probably doesn't understand either.
Always gotta love when the richest people on the planet say, "Life isn't about money."
Yea, ok dude.
This is a saying of the rich people to keep the poor out
@@Player-ix7rxThe rich have other ways of pulling up the ladder after they've made it, but saying such cliches probably isn't one of them.
Being rich can´t buy you happiness,
but being poor can´t buy you anything.
It isnt
Those who built their fortunes largely from scratch often do it from an inner drive to succeed. Money and the things it can buy are just tangible evidence of their success. Those who inherit their money often just drift along in life, dabbling in the arts or philanthropy.
Beware anybody who uses their faith as an asset in promoting their business.
Mate i agree highly. I lived with a close mate (not anymore) who is a devout Christian and obsessed with trading stocks. He earned good money as a high up manager. But will never hire a tradesman to render/repair his house. Either its me bandaiding/repairing wear and tear or other mates for a carton of alcohol. When i moved out the washing machine hot/cold facets had busted off the wall & flooded the house. Instead hiring a plumber he paid someone off Gumtree/craigslist for $50..... the repair job was even worse. My "close mates" reaction " this breaks my heart my faith was in that man to help me out" 😑
I only apply 'faith' to math.
He did give away his profits to the church when he had them
If the guy just discloses that he’s a member of a certain religion, okay great. It is a huge part of people’s lives, so there’s no issue with that affecting his life outside religious gatherings. If he inexplicably makes it a huge part of why you should entrust him with ridiculous amounts of money in an industry that’s all too similar to gambling, yea he’s just manipulating people
"no individual has lost so much money that quickly"
SBF: "hold my beer"
I thought soo too, then checked and so the video was out a year ago lolz
Did he really “lose” it?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Elon Musk: "hold my beer"
"With his car being a Hyundai, he wasn't your typical billionaire."
Are we so sure about that?! 😂
He forgot the 11th Commandment: Thou shalt be careful with the leverage.
shh! Moses lost that tablet, we don't speak about those commandments.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 And thou shall diversify
people who use leverage remind me of the homeless or working class buying lotto tickets. avoid doing that.
Book of Proverbs is full of verses about how evil debt is.
And Moses said, "It literally cannot go tits up."
I guess that was God’s way of telling Bill he didn’t need his help after all.
God needs lots and lots of money, don't you know that? His glorious greed never ends...
God was obviously not pleased with him. Perhaps he should kill his first born, in order to get back on the right side of God.
God probably said, "Don't waste my time: If ain't Bezos wealth, then I don't wanna hear it!"
@@migovas1483 How dare you to assumes god's gender you homophobic bigot
If you win while praying for your christian god, it is god who has helped you win. If you lose, it is god that's telling you it does not belong to you. That is why your christian god on the other hand, is never wrong anyway.
Always love your story of such disasters. You make things really clear for me, a non-economist. Keep up great work!
These could be shown on TV.
This man is single-handedly stopping inflation
Bless his soul.
Lol
Who???? This UA-camr??🤔
@@ajaymg1076 ur pretty thick
The government are doing everything they can to stop deflation. Can they continue?
Used leverage once , flipped 500 in 5k then went -160 . Never again . Thank you
i tried leverage trading with bitcoin once. the leverage was set to 100x but i had no idea what it meant, i just thought i was spot trading. within 30 minutes, i turned my $100 into $300, and then lost it all in the next 5 minutes
@@cvspvr 😂
You both made the same mistake he did, when using leverage to any degree you have to reduce your "exposure". Your exposure is the percentage of your portfolio you place at risk. Rule of thumb when using leverage is to only use 10% of your typical exposure which is typically only 10% or less of your total portfolio. So if you do the math 10% of 10,000 is 1,000 amd 10% of that is 100. You do this because when in the case say 100x leverage 100 is multiplied (you borrow) 100 times your collateral 100 time 100 is 10,000. Doing this allows you to greatly increase the diversity of your portfolio. As a portfolio with $10,000 is equivalent to a portfolio of $1,000,000 dollars, only difference is the fact that you are extremely exposed to broad market volatility. As you could see from the example when the market turns out of your favor in one area you may be forced to liquidate other positions to compensate the losses.
Yep, talk about an emotional rollercoaster. That's why I throw 75% of my retirement into a Vanguard S&P index fund me let it ride. I'll allow 10%, max, for high risk gamble. I'll be honest though, I bought a lot of gold before during the covid debacle and feel like a genius, even though I know it was dumb luck.
@@sgtjonmcc Who said that they dumped all their portfolio on leverage?
"He started with 8.8 million dollars from family and friends!"
That's how the rich get richer.
That ROI will turn $1000 into $2,270,000. Has nothing to do with the initial investment and everything to do with the rate of return. But "Muh rich people" right?
That’s because he ran something called a “small family office”. This type of hedge fund doesn’t take outsider funds and only takes money from… family and friends.
Less scrutiny from SEC, more leverage opportunities, less client disclosure. But your also trading with less principal capital.
@@Zordiak 8.8 million gives you access to a fuckton more leverage than $1000 does
@@Zordiak Don't forget he lost everything and people still complaining about the rich getting richer lol.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Wow one rich guy lost his money so the whole sentiment must be false lol
God, I love how our entire economic system is based on gambling on imaginary money that can vanish over the course of days, hours, or even minutes.
It would be hilarious, except it affects us poor peasants.
I thought so too. Until an economist friend made me realize all value is imaginary. Compare a Casio with a Rolex. Why are their values so different?
that's why the best investment is into things that can't be stolen or lose value like knowledge or health
Buy Bitcoin.
Please read The Creature of Jekyll Island ! Hard facts exposing blinding faith.
Interesting to see that when stocks are on the rise, you're playing with imaginary money, but when the values fall, that suddenly becomes real money.
Vast majority of the money isnt real, they use wash trading to fake raise the price.
In the end the money represent all humans possession and work time. No matter the value of the money. The possessions and work time will be the same.
@@Zyphera not really. money is supposed to represent "value" hence it is subjective. think of a louis vuitton bag. it costs $50 to manufacture yet it retails in the thousands. and someone will pay that amount. because they see some sorts of intangible value in it. value is subjective.
@@najibzaoui4073 yes its subjective. Hence imaginary
@@najibzaoui4073 Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
And now Archegos is now one of the big factors that led to Credit Suisse's downfall.
Definitely easier to gamble with other people's money
Easier yes, smart....?
@@RudolfJvVuuren very smart unfortunately. But sometimes criminal. Any time the investor gives money to a guy like this, they are trusting they know what they’re doing. That’s their mistake.
It’s always smarter to gamble with someone else’s money. Win and you’re a hero. Lose and it’s THEIR problem
It's not easy bud. Some investors come after your life/ legally or illegally. Especially when 100+ mill is involved.
@@Meatball2022 I mean, dude is probably in protection for his life rn. You don’t lose billions of dollars and get off easily. You can fuck with poor people’s money, but fuck with rich people’s money and you’re a dead man.
Depends who's money it is it's no fun gambling with loan sharks money
"If a walls street guy says it's not about money RUN "~ Rohan B Naik
Why do I feel like you're Rohan B Naik...
Lol you correct man
Who?
I can hear the run bgmmm 😂
ah yes, the famous rohan b naik!
I can’t understand how Bill is still optimistic about his company, no bank will ever loan him funds ever again.
Don't underestimate greed and stupidity. Ever.
He done something similar before and bank forgive him after 2-3 years and started lending him money again. And this time maybe another 2-3 years they will do the same thing
I'm sure the dude is still handling millions.
bill have.cash sitting
he never be poor
Trust me - as a trader - there are good and bad days--- Just because he lost that amount in a day doesn't make him a bad trader- he just have to go back to the drawing board and revise his risk management ! his lost doesn't take away how brilliant he is in taking millions to billions! and people who have the skill will tell you - "I can lose it all and still go get it again tomorrow" ! im sure he will raise again !
The amazing thing about this story is that if we stopped it prior to him yeeting it all away, it'd be one of those inspirational self-made billionaire stories. Hwang's appetite for risk made him rich, but it was also responsible for his downfall.
Like Icarus flying to close to the sun...
it also shows that a persons ideas and beliefs , the very things that drive their actions and thus make what he or she is, are way more important than what they have managed to "achieve" in life, as they can very easily loose every thing they gained due to their beliefs and ideas being fundamentally flawed and unsustainable
This sounds exactly like the people in Wallstreetbets. The same people that make a million dollars due to their risk tolerance, but that same risk tolerance ends them losing all their money a few days later
He also practiced insider trading. He is not who he claims to be.
@@georginam824 I hate to defend Hwang, but the money he risked was either his or entrusted to him by personal friends.
Archegos was a family office. It's why his personal net worth skyrocketed alongside the fund - even successful hedge fund managers don't see a 1:1 correlation between personal net worth and fund performance.
So technically, he wasn't actually gambling with other people's resources. He's more like that guy who went bankrupt gambling at Las Vegas.
"it will probably be fine potentially"
-Huang, probably
"It'll be fine"
- Drinker
"Archegos" ("Αρχηγός") means "Leader" or "Chief" in Greek
Bravo!
Yeah... i laughed when they said in the video that archegos means something about Christianity haha
Could've sworn ARCHON was Greek for magistrate
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp archon of Tevinter
"Money isn't everything... I want to spread the word of God." --> God smashes his stock to prove the point.
Oh God, your comment is funny!!
😂🤣😂
Exactly
That's nothing, latter he can just become Priest and people willingly give him their money to buy his mansion and private jet.
@@thatsawesome2060 Hey man... God told him to buy the Jet :p
Paused at 5:49 just to say that ARCHEGOS is the word for LEADER in Greek and that's what I think he wanted to portray with the name.
I believe you. You have the most greek name ever.
@@roverrange3674 lol thank you!
I paused too, since that seemed like a glaring mistake (I'm Greek too). Then I googled "archegos etymology" and, for some reason, the first result I got was this
Definition
1.The chief leader, prince
a. of Christ
www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/archegos.html
@@roverrange3674 lol, so true
@@ErugoPurakushi sure that explains it! In terms of etymology however it's pretty clear.
I can understand making mistakes through un-calculated risks, but being a man of God and cheating or commiting fraud do not mix.
"Devout Christian" as if that brings any credibility or ethics with it.
lmao, it might have been said as a warning sign
It means they have no ethics, anything they do they can always tell themselves "I'm doing it for God"
Like when a CEO/company says how they're "like a family" with thier employees.
Very much the opposite
It can if people practice what they preach. This guy was a fraud who used the faith to serve his interests not God's. Sadly not very uncommon. But people use anything for leverage these days.
Bill Hwang, a well educated, savvy investor with the instincts of a hardened gambler and the missionary zeal of a religious extremist. Dangerous combination of three combustible materials. The secrecy of the whole thing was the most important part, I think, that made it so lethal.
He was a gambler
"A well educated, savvy investor with the instincts of a hardened gambler and the missionary zeal of a religious extremist. Dangerous "
If you think about don't all all those things cancel each other out to some degree ?
@@yonisali3879 some, maybe, but obviously not enough!
religious extremist is a bit much
Just a fraud who gambled with other's money and tried to use religion to cover it up.
So basically my take-away from this is that this guy would have been one of the absolute "greats" at wallstreetbets
“Bill was secretive, often conceiling particularly large holdings from his own analysts”
So, a real life Bobby Axelrod
He doesnt look like a carnivore fucking monster.
Bobby was very particular about risk and he never hid position from analyst
until two analyst spoke to each other.SWAP FEE IS AMAZING..HE REFUSE TO BAIL..HE SO GODLY
HOW COHEN END UP WITH METS
" He was the son of a pastor " - oh boy here we go again
Actually his faith has nothing to do with his investing style. Those are two quite separate things.
I think the pastor father might have abused Bill Hwang a lot, which is why the latter is shady as he is.
the only boy
who could ever reach me
was a son a preacher man.
@@mth469 Nice song!
Thats Ken Lay's upbringing, the father of Enron.
He says he loves god more than money but with the way he makes money he must love god very much
Nothing says virtues of the gods like defaulting on margin calls..
And doesn’t the bible condemn the use of interest? Yet he borrows and shorts. 🤔
As Michael burry said : "He mistook leverage with genius."
Edit : it's Steve eisman not burry
I pretty sure that was Steave Eisman
Yup, it’s Steve Eisman lol.
Wrong guy bruh
"I repeat this until I am sufficiently leveraged for my Personal Risk Tolerance"
-Lehman Brothers (probably)
@@CG-yq2xy Guh
This reminds of South Park, the banking episode; ".....aaaaaand, its gone!"
You'll always find Credit Suisse, UBS and the top banks always involved in these stories
Also may be soft bank too.
Goldman Sachs. They even helped a person rob $4 billion in Malaysia.
Dude credit Suisse has lost so many times I have no idea how they are still in business.
Just Deutsche missing
I left this part of the Financial industry a few months before the whole archegos story was out. I had a contact at one of the Banks mentioned and they worked in a department that was somewhat closely associated(not fully) with Bill, When he call in looking for money My contact said he would alway end the call with "have a blessed day and thank you for doing gods work" and it just seemed off to him but his superiors told him its just who bill was. To me dude sounded like the scamTelevangelist you see on TV.
haha what's wrong with that - that was his believe- I thought we were in a world were people can be themselves. He was doing business with the bank- its not like they were giving him money for free!
@@Hello-um5dj Hes using it as a shield. Acting extremely devout while doing things that explicitly go against that is uh... Ya know...hypocritical
Mr. Huang: "I'm wildly wealthy, but _life isn't about money_ ." God: "Hold my beer!"
😂😂😂😂😂
Ayo
God or wall street
lmfao
Just a sleazy gambler and preaching Christ. Now called virtue signalling.
The fact that he's still alive and sane after losing 20 billion $ in 2 days is proof that he is no average guy.
Making 20 billion $ is in itself a feat, but surviving its loss is a span of time so short?? Goddamn
high risk tolerance.
Honestly i would probably neck myself if i was this guy
He is probably very cold blooded which is a blessing and a curse as a trader.
A blessing because wins or losses are both taken with no emotion but also a curse because you are ok with losing a bunch of other peoples money with no remorse or feeling of obligation to those investors.
I’m surprised someone hasn’t tried to knock him off yet
@@thefirsttrillionaire2925 can't.
‘God has a long term view’ - quote of the year! LMAO.
who knew
So funny🤣
God: That's right, I do, but you, Bill, you don't
it's incredible how many intelligent people can be infected by religion to the point where they say stuff like this and not even realise their own stupidity. At its very worst, they can even be convinced to fly planes into buildings.
I love Cold Fusion stories & his music is slamming! Keep bringing awesome stories & dope ass beats!😁
Finally a version of this story I actually understand! Thank you
What I understood is that the man has a Gambling Addiction, Getting High off of taking Risks.
High risk
Risk management... A lesson so simple and yet so hard to learn because practicing it may go against the very fabrics of our beings.
I have class from 8:30am and it’s 4:50am here in NewZealand. Let me grab some sleep Dagogo
you still have 4 hours to sleep
I wonder if Dagogo uploaded it at 4:00 in the morning!?
@@unbeatable3d way to math.
Get some rest
Better watch later after class
That’s a great hairline. You’d think the stress would have destroyed it
Lmao he bought it
😂😂😂😂😂
beautiful head of hair hey
He not stressed, other peoples money.
Note that the guy who is interviewing Bill Hwang is literally starting to laugh in Bill's face, (6:36) when bill says he wants investors to "now the reality of God."
I don't trust anyone who claims to know the mind of God.
I don't trust anyone.... period!!
Yes how does someone know the mind that pops up with 404 error every time multiple messages try to describe it. Hard to describe a mind that has been seemed to be offline since BCE.
@Walter Morris Well if god doesn't exist then this non-existence is the 404 error.
You know just what I like to see! I've been wondering who was going to be the first to make a good video about Archegos because I'm certainly interested in WTF they did and what exactly happened, but not enough to actually look up and read articles from multiple sources to learn about it.
When Hwang tells you there's nothing Hwang, but the leverage is guided by a prayer and a song, you know something is very Hwang.
I tend to trust the openly irreligious business person more than the business person that oversells their religiosity as a way to earn trust.
Never trust a holier-than-thou fanatic. Also, if you belive in god in the 21st century, you are a fool.
@@RA-tg1dp Word
@@RA-tg1dp if you really are this close minded then i feel truly sorry for you.
@@drafman1 its just called having an education and not living in the stone age using magic to explain things we dont understand
Tf kinda logic is this? Don't trust either of them idiot, you trust Jeffrey Epstein over this guy?? Wtf
i like it when you cover financial matters.
Your channel has grown a lot. I have been with you since your note 2 video
Such a insightful video, I have watched this 3 times now and I keep coming back to watch it all again. You make content live and that lands right in my mind :)
Thank you for another high quality piece of work. It is just frightening how greed can run rampant.
Sad and impressive at the same time
The way you effortlessly switch between different pronunciations of Hwang to calling this man Bill like he’s your friend has me DEAD! 🤣 Keep up the good work!!!
people who shout out "Gawd" at least 6 times in one sentence scare me.
Yeah there are many crazy christians from south korea. Many cults as well
Never even heard of this. But my engagement rate of your videos is: 100% and subscribed with All notifications on. Also why I don't have Netflix.
Invest just 10% of your earnings, your own hand-picked stocks. You'll realize that you have beaten "Monday blues" for the life.
There's a mystery in investment.
At one time, I worked for a 410k retirement plan company that handles retirements plans for transamerica, vanguards, and all others 410k and IRA corporations operating in America. I can tell you, at first that retirement plans are a scam designed to make investors money without spending a dime of their own money.
When you work on something that only has the capacity to make you 5 dollars, it doesn't matter how much harder you work. The most you will make is 5 dollars, very simple.
I've different news about bitcoin mining and how tricky it is but people still say it's safe, I just need a reliable business expert.
@@tylerwilson5747 I made a cool withdrawal of $9400 on my first trade from Bitcoin mining and it was mind blowing.
Remember: "You cannot serve God and money at the same time"
You can if money comes first...
Both of which are man-made concepts
@@班伯恩 Based
@@saveachildkillacaucroach4266 money is God 😳
Meanwhile the pope in his gold gilded pallace.
Lesson Learnt:
However personal it may seem, always make sure your portfolio looks like something others would love to invest in!
As usual, very interesting and comprehensive subjects.
Thank you
Financial Times & The Economist are scratching their heads, "How are we not able to produce contents like this? How is one-man band UA-camr making richer and more engaging contents in our niche, our bread and butter?"
Dr.Strange: "Is that everyone?"
Wong: "I want more."
Underrated comment 👏
*Hwang
Along with a pleasant voice, your factual information is correct. 👍
When people use God as a trading strategy... you got to get out.
Even a company where the CEO uses God as a business strategy - quit. They won't pay you.
@@georgio3753 Financial institutions are a risk to work for, regardless of their stated affiliations.
@@enkidu9298 True. I'm not knocking God. He gives people the ability to make profit. I'm knocking people who use God as a shield for their own ineptness. Like you take these risks and pray for a miracle when God gave you a mind to make better decisions.... Rather let people think you are a crook and don't drag God into it. In my opinion.
I actually thought God told me to buy Nio stock and never worry about money again. I did and I don't have to worry about money again. I'm also bipolar and can get delusional from time to time.
This is the main reason I am very hesitant to invest in ARK.. Cathie Woods "consults God" with every stock purchase.
That's a big red flag for me
He should be a mod at wallstreetbets lmao.
🤣🤣🤣
I love this channel. Always learn something new.
When wealthy people roll snake eyes: "I think the regulators need to get involved"
This is margin risk on another level, great video about a messy topic!
Small correction. Archegos, αρχηγός in Greek, literally means the one that leads, a leader.
The word doesn’t have any connections to any religion.
Love your videos. Get to learn many new and interesting things from your videos
"Oh, I get it. Y'all are a couple of bookies." - Billy Ray Valentine - "Trading Places".
"Family offices" is a reality I know nothing about but am intrigued to learn more about.
It just means he had only family working with him like the mafia so they could ensure any illegal activity wouldn’t be leaked by future employees because they were all family and all benefited from it.
Churches have been doing this for a while. Pastors appointment only family members to the churches board so any money that is being stolen from the members is never leaked because anybody in the know is family and is benefiting from the nefarious activities.
It's a hedge fund that doesn't take outside investors. A retail trader that hires analysts
I love this channel. The content of this channel has transformed from great technology videos like HTC, Samsung, GE, Tesla to scam buster in recent years. Previously it was an inspiration now it has become just an information blog
When a ColdFusion video comes out it feels like Christmas
EDIT: In the next video in queue it's a fraud video :D And a new one! (I love those)
BEST UA-cam Channel !
I find it funny how he was playing the GOD card and throwing GOD into everything, as a way to justify what he was doing, when in fact he was nothing more than an gambling addict. LOL
Exactly.
That was very "Christian" of him.
did you see the story in the news recently of the nun who gambled???
I think he met his goal. When the bank executives found out Hwang was out of money, they each yelled "JESUS!"
@@nothingineternityterms LMAO😂😂😂
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.” - Jesus.
The 'interview' at 6:26 feels like a scene from Mr. Show. It's almost surreally funny.
"wacky year" yeah when RobinHood and Citadel illegally and unilaterally suspended trading, that sure was wacky.
That's not what happened and I wish people would look at actual facts instead of taking conjecture and running with it. RobinHood is shady as f, but at least go after them for actual crimes and shady stuff instead of a lack of liquidity forcing a suspension.
@@snowballeffect7812 >conjecture
Uh they suspending the ability to buy, and fucking with the market. Tell us how thats conjecture. Its literally out in the open.
@@snowballeffect7812 Their liquidity was in question because citadel is the biggest customer of robin hood, and was about to become a pile of sh1t it it should be.
They stopped trading with the intention of stopping a short squeeze. And slowly allowed bying after citadel had been handed a big fat financial aid by other players so they don't cause a domino effect.
@@iwankazlow2268 yeah? You have actual documentation of this being the case?
@@battokizu WHY? I'm saying the reason the guy gave for the cause is conjecture. Keep up, kid.
This is a good video on the background and mechanics of this, but I’d like to mention the Chinese government’s tightening on foreign listed (US) stocks and regulation on certain stocks such as online education stocks (which iirc were essentially banned overnight). He had heavy, leveraged positions in a couple of these stocks and almost overnight he lost an insane amount on them.
I still remember when this happened and watching the market.
Always gives me a chuckle when I hear a multi billionaire capitalist talk about how close to god they are. He clearly wasn't as close as he thought.
“It would be easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter heaven.”
He sure is able to enter heaven easier now.
@@mytradingjournal123 lol truuuuu
@@ChideNorms i'm sorry but that's a typo search it up if you want.
Was looking for this comment. God is giving him a third chance now to live a "poor" man's life worth of entering heaven. Who wants to take bets on him going for that third try. Of course we are going to use borrowed money who's in?
@@AgerioBoss literally every translation says "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." STFU just admit Jesus was a dirt poor socialist and not fucking supply side corporate shill Jesus.
And I felt bad when I bought a digital top up card of $50 that I never received the code for.
These people seem to forget the first rule of gambling, the house always wins, not you.
Hey, this is unrelated, but I'd love to see you do a video on Apple and it's knowing use of slave labor in its supply chain.
Only extremely small UA-cam channels are making content on it, and seeing it being discussed on a larger channel like this one or MKBHD's would be amazing.
You've covered some Apple related topics in the past.
Great video as always Dagogo!
I was hoping you can make a documentary on the financial crisis of 2008 which caused the bankruptcy of major banks like Lehmann Brothers, because not many of us know how distressing that period was.
the big short kinda has an okay (entertaining with a bit of truth) explenation of what was going on. the ENTIRE FUCKING GLOBAL BANKING industry was just not doing ANY investigation into housing loans, and was letting greedy people ACT like it was sure thing money for 25 years.
When your winning it feels you can never loose, but you need an exit plan always!
And as a fellow degenerate said: "Money is just paper"
Analfarmer2
Well it is
It's actually cotton and linen, not paper
Unless someone puts the value more than a paper...but again, still a paper
When it is an electronic transaction, it isn't even that. Then there's crypto currencies.
I keep loosing in real trade but win in Demo.
Should I give up on Trade?
What should I do?
How may I do better?
What I'm I doing incorrectly?
here is my problem I have been making losses trying to make trade. I thought to trade demo is just like the real..can anyone help me out or at least tell me on what to do.
I always advice new members to have an orientation on how it works before getting involved. Trade offers more benefits than just holding.
Kate Floretta
in stagram
Google "katefxfloretta" anywhere take classes and learn to trade.
having a mentor is also very important when it comes to Trade, with out that, it can be very frustrating.
Mr Silverster Wilfred sent me my total payout today. I really appreciate, so proud of myself for taking the risk when I did.
Hi sir can I get tips... Losing very badly?
But Silverster Wilfred strategy has proven to be unrivaled?
Wow you trade with Silverster Wilfred too? Honestly that guy is incredible, Its just sad you only get hear about him in the comment section.
Another testimony about Silverster Wilfred's goodwill he has a way of delivering, I just made another £ 9,500 I am reinvesting £ 800 next week this is exciting!!!
I totally agree with you he understands the market movements and knows when exactly to call/put with this, risk rate and loss rate has totally been less, he manages account, and always give you PDF of how he made the gains with his technique after the trading section, I'm happy I'm working with him, not surprised seeing other students of Silverster Wilfred, his strategy unique and also the best.
Let's hope we see a video on Ken Griffin and Citadel in the near future....HODL
Sure we’ll do fellow ape 👐🏻💎
"They mistook leverage for genius” - Steve Eisman
The fact that the banks met together to dump should be illegal. Retail investors had no idea and most likely are holding the bag. Smh!
Whenever I hear "In the name of God" I check if I still have money in my pocket
Just like taxeses
@@AS-yo2xz Naaah with taxes you can at least see a bit of it in education, health care, transportation...
Once again religion acts as a shield for shady stuff. Nice breakdown, thanks!
These videos are so addictive, great work.
What a lovely Christian 🥰❤️
😂😂😂
I think I more lovely, also I don't gamble with another people money.
Archegos translates to Chief. I know it because i am Greek. It is found in ancient Greek as well, so it predates Jesus.
Where i live you CAN'T use money you DON'T own on gambling with stocks because shit like this will happen.
If you're doing business with someone who admits publicly to having an invisible magic supervisor, you have been forewarned.