Is she a must pull? | Nahida Teams 1st Impressions

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  • @mooddd2684
    @mooddd2684 Рік тому +724

    I used her for a while thinking she was so good, till i realized i forgot to equip a weapon on her.

    • @robertjif6337
      @robertjif6337 Рік тому +72

      OMG same, I clear abyss with level 1 weapon, lol

    • @AW-zx1pc
      @AW-zx1pc Рік тому +62

      Not me passing abyss without realising she has lv 1 talents and no artifacts at all

    • @faber3813
      @faber3813 Рік тому +13

      @@AW-zx1pc i mean, same thing for me but with Dendro traveler

    • @tlug
      @tlug Рік тому +5

      I forgot about her talents to 🤣🤣🤣

    • @aris1200
      @aris1200 Рік тому +8

      I took her to the abyss at ascension 4, talents lv 2, and partially unleveled artifacts, and I didn't even notice. I mean... Wow

  • @part-timedebiru9681
    @part-timedebiru9681 Рік тому +139

    The fact that burning reverse melt is no longer a meme brings a smile to my face

  • @ZMA.
    @ZMA. Рік тому +464

    I really love her exploration passive. It makes getting her mats so much easier and now i can just click the skill instead of climbing a mountain!

    • @mars9986
      @mars9986 Рік тому +65

      Omg, yes. It's like having kazuha in the team. Once you know what it's like, it's hard to go back to anything else. Luxury 😭.

    • @ZMA.
      @ZMA. Рік тому +2

      @@mars9986 ikr?? 🙏🙏

    • @AceSama..
      @AceSama.. Рік тому +13

      I was able to collect some of the kalotpala lotus needed for her ascension to 90 using her e from much farther lol. Otherwise climbing those cliffs is such a chore sometimes

    • @Cellyyyy
      @Cellyyyy Рік тому

      Random question but can I ask where is your pfp from?

    • @denden6316
      @denden6316 Рік тому +1

      i intentionally left the last 30 lotuses just so I could enjoy that passive, it's batshit insane

  • @Jeeze
    @Jeeze Рік тому +400

    as expected, my suicide nilou team (em c6dmc+xyphos/em koko/em nahida/hp nilou+key) kills everything with 40k+cores. teammates included. Nilou shall be the only survivor 🗿

    • @verymental6999
      @verymental6999 Рік тому +15

      Nahida explodes in my team, so i’m running hybrid Koko + Nilou as “on fielders”… its very comfy, without sh!t damage.

    • @broadbandislife
      @broadbandislife Рік тому +1

      _That's pretty brutal_ 🤘

    • @xXHokoriXGloryXx
      @xXHokoriXGloryXx Рік тому +2

      I changed my teams a little, since i don't have kokomi, I'm using heal-build barbara + xingqiu + nilou + nahida (on-field dendro applicator). So far it's been better, but kokomi heals are way better of course. Anyway, best to test this team next abyss, the mobs are gonna be spectacular

    • @davefontanilla3703
      @davefontanilla3703 Рік тому

      Suicide squad

    • @banjoowo4001
      @banjoowo4001 Рік тому

      How is it on single target?

  • @helix2341
    @helix2341 Рік тому +127

    Props to the editor for muting out parts that could be spoilers for those who haven't played the archon quest yet

    • @JustKels
      @JustKels Рік тому +12

      Oh that’s why that happened?? Thanks for pointing it out, now I’m less confused and more appreciative!

  • @timothycontoveros4699
    @timothycontoveros4699 Рік тому +697

    My first impression: Nahida is really short lol

  • @fizzyjam
    @fizzyjam Рік тому +362

    nahida quickly becoming one of my favorite playable characters and i have rly shitty artifacts on her rn😭

    • @Unforgiving_Eye
      @Unforgiving_Eye Рік тому +44

      True, one of the best archon in the game meta-wise and lore-wise 😭🌳

    • @pretty.billy.
      @pretty.billy. Рік тому +2

      I didn’t either but lucked out super hard on em main stat Deadwood! I just need a em circlet :(

    • @anishk452
      @anishk452 Рік тому +1

      @fizzyjam I feel that I have garbage artifacts too

    • @fizzyjam
      @fizzyjam Рік тому

      @@Unforgiving_Eye shes my favorite archon now

    • @fizzyjam
      @fizzyjam Рік тому +2

      @@anishk452 dont even have an EM gilded circlet and my deepwood is just BAD

  • @jackyyip5468
    @jackyyip5468 Рік тому +215

    "So what teams are great for nahida?"
    Nahida: "Yes."

    • @asoret
      @asoret Рік тому

      What teams aren't xD as long as it isn't only cryo,geo,anemo

    • @mad_max21
      @mad_max21 Рік тому +3

      Mono Geo, where's your god now?

    • @applyinggaming9529
      @applyinggaming9529 Рік тому +9

      @@asoret nahida on cryo reverse melt comps are a thing u know

  • @Written_in_the_Starss
    @Written_in_the_Starss Рік тому +58

    Her E being connected by a string is so op. Love it

    • @oscara8454
      @oscara8454 Рік тому +1

      It has a huge range too.

    • @Written_in_the_Starss
      @Written_in_the_Starss Рік тому +11

      @@oscara8454 It's like Yelans string connecting minus the running and the string breaking. It's op because you don't need to hit everyone to make reactions cause the string is already doing the reaction as long as they are connected.

  • @fivefourtwo4498
    @fivefourtwo4498 Рік тому +45

    Magic Guide feels so good, very little investment for a solid off field weapon in the right teams

  • @vicca4671
    @vicca4671 Рік тому +62

    16:00 is the reason I pulled for Nahida: I can't do a proper semi-complex rotation even if my life depended on it. Braindead is good, braindead is joy.

  • @Byrvurra
    @Byrvurra Рік тому +93

    One thing I notice about her is that she makes annoying bullshit spread out enemies in the abyss much easier to deal with; just 360 noscope her skill and she tags everyone. Also since DMC is decent Nahida lets you potentially run 2 dendro teams in the abyss. I think she's really good in aggravate though, put her in a team with Yae, Raiden and Jean and I don't feel like I have much difficulty getting swirls. No one is a must pull, but if such a category exists, it exists for characters like Nahida; especially for F2P or new players who need strong versatile characters to build out their roster. You can throw her into almost any team and suddenly it's a Nahida team.
    Great character.

    • @smexxxxy
      @smexxxxy Рік тому +4

      Nahida + Yae is peak lazy gameplay. I have C2 Yae and chunking everything from 5 miles away is so fun.

    • @emiki6
      @emiki6 Рік тому +7

      As a somewhat new player, the "must pulls" should be the ones that don't require high or hyper investment (building them is cheap and fast) and are very versatile, so you can put them in almost any team (especially teams that work well with low investment). New players don't have much materials, so leveling a (or many) char to 90 for good EM related dmg is a luxury and mora, enchantment ore, artiffact xp are also scarce. How hard it is to pilot them is also important.
      These are my experiences.
      I really like the sucrose taser team, it's easy to achieve a good level of DPS fast, it's consistent and reliable. I have zhongli, he is cheap to build and versatile + good for mining. Kazuha wasn't cheap, but easy to play well and versatile + good for commuting. Raiden, Kokomi and Nahida seem like safe pulls, tho I will skip nahida for now and never pull for kokomi. :D
      But this is all boss/abyss talk, general exploration has other priorities, like practicality. Is there a better generalist overworld unit than Kazuha? Yelan is close, Xiao is decent too. Short female and chibi chars lag behind because bunny hop... Ayaka/Mona sprint on water can be useful too. Yelan and Kazuha are pretty safe pulls too i think.

    • @ray-ee5pb
      @ray-ee5pb Рік тому +3

      @@emiki6 The problem with characters like Yelan and Raiden are that they take a while to build, since they need a wide range of stats, like crit, atk/hp, and er. Raiden wants a certain balance of stats and Yelan wants levels, good crit and hp stats, a lot of er, and a semi-built Xingqiu. Characters like Kazuha and Kokomi are incredibly cheap to build in comparison, only needing levels, the right main stats, and only sometimes talent levels. Instead of spending a few months in an artifact domain, or waiting until you’re AR45 to use a character, you spend a bit farming leylines and then move on.
      Another factor is how much a character would add to your account. There’s no easy replacement for the Raiden Shogun or Kokomi that have all the same utilities they do. There are replacements, yes, but it’s never quite the same, which makes them more valuable.
      Conversely, if there’s a 4-star character who does all the same things or more, then why bother pulling for the 5-star?

    • @TheMirksta
      @TheMirksta Рік тому

      @@ray-ee5pb The thing is with a character like Yelan they use artifacts most characters don't need, so it's pretty easy to have some pieces for her lying around. Crit substat, HP% pieces weren't really useful on anyone before she came around + she uses emblem set which had been out for a little while, so she was easier to build because of that (for me personally). Plus you can just slap Fav bow on her and her ER is basically solved while not sacrificing much damage due to lack of good F2P HP bows.

    • @ray-ee5pb
      @ray-ee5pb Рік тому

      @@TheMirksta While that’s true, she’s still not as easy to build as someone like Kokomi who doesn’t even care about the substats. Plus, not everyone has emblem pieces lying around, and many people just recycle pieces that don’t have good subs for the characters they’re building at that moment.

  • @Akholyte
    @Akholyte Рік тому +12

    I come here for Zajef's opinions but I stay for the laugh, wholesome vibe. Love the content man

  • @flygon727
    @flygon727 Рік тому +35

    18:23 An important point you forgot to mention for her on-field is that if she's the party member with the highest EM, the cap is actually at 800 and not 750. 750 cap is only if there's another party member with 1k EM which can happen. Otherwise the cap varies between 750 and 800 based on the highest member's EM. Also that Nilou bloom teams can have her go over a 1000 if she's ends up being the trigger.
    Thanks for the vid btw

  • @Jonny5Fails
    @Jonny5Fails Рік тому +18

    She's so fun with Raiden. It's also fun to swap out Beidou for her in taser and play taserbloom until you die from self-damage.

  • @yahikonightray5398
    @yahikonightray5398 Рік тому +2

    - Good skill set
    - Pseudo unli AOE skills
    - Not cluncky and fast attks
    - Works at C0
    - Easy to build with some 4 star weapons situationally her BIS with some of them are free.
    - tired of climbing just to get harvestable mats? Take a pic then get it at low cooldowns.
    - theoretical 100% skill uptime
    - fast skill cast
    - fast consistent Dendro application
    - Buffs EM
    - Currently fits into every single Dendro comps and is an upgrade.
    - has Resistance to interruption
    - Archon level cuteness
    Thats Nahida....
    -Archon collector playing since launch

  • @crt137
    @crt137 Рік тому +14

    I LOVE VERSATILE CHARACTERS!
    I LOVE BEING ABLE TO USE MY HEAVILY INVESTED UNITS IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SETTINGS AND PLAYSTYLES!

    • @abitofsupport601
      @abitofsupport601 Рік тому +6

      @@bobjones1934 bro people are tired of national

    • @Skonces
      @Skonces Рік тому +1

      @@bobjones1934 Do you really think saying that will stop us? You care about this so much that it sounds like you’re just salty about not having enough primos to get her, so you adopted the classic “If I can’t have her nobody can” mindset.

    • @sh00k_
      @sh00k_ Рік тому

      @@bobjones1934 national/freeze is boring

    • @sh00k_
      @sh00k_ Рік тому +1

      @@bobjones1934 i don't have a problem. ofc meta team comps work but you gotta agree it gets boring using kazuha or bennett or xinagling in every team

    • @Skonces
      @Skonces Рік тому +1

      @@bobjones1934 Go ahead and pull/play your meta characters, man. We’re not objecting to that, but you’re being a dick about people who have fun playing non-meta characters in an easy PVE open game. You gotta have some kinda weird emotional problem if you’re getting upset over that.

  • @foxiki387
    @foxiki387 Рік тому +4

    About Nahida eating your electro in quicken, Kuki burst will always outpace the dendro and let you get your swirl, if that helps anyone. (+ you get to run a healer)

  • @KategariYami
    @KategariYami Рік тому +17

    I'm actually liking Healer Nahida... Even with Jack All Crit Damage but still a bunch of EM, it's like 20k Spreads out of nowhere.

    • @Sku11zDude
      @Sku11zDude Рік тому +1

      prototype amber nahida with nilou, can they even stay alive

    • @NLwino
      @NLwino Рік тому +1

      @@Sku11zDude In that team, even the health bonus helps.

    • @KategariYami
      @KategariYami Рік тому +2

      @@Sku11zDude Just relying on Prototype Amber alone isn't going to be enough.
      Healer Nahida is more for a Quicken Team with Tighnari,

  • @itscky2007
    @itscky2007 Рік тому +4

    Nahida is so comfortable to play for me, I definitely didnt regret pulling for her

  • @rauladriaham2508
    @rauladriaham2508 Рік тому +5

    I got Nahida to support my Sucrose and so far she does a very good job at it, the reactions are good, the EM buff makes Sucrose hits harder with her swirls and hyperblooms and I feel like the dendro application on Nahida's skill is lengthy and good enough to constantly create dendro cores.

  • @gericjohnm.olivar9563
    @gericjohnm.olivar9563 Рік тому +9

    She's great.
    And the reason why i played burgeon/hyperbloom comp with her.

  • @clel45136
    @clel45136 Рік тому

    coming back almost one year later just to realize how much she polarized the meta it's actually crazy

  • @somebody7205
    @somebody7205 Рік тому +7

    Honestly just for fun of it I do wanna try her as an on field driver with hydro/electro/pyro off field applicators probably xingqiu kuki and Thoma. Should be fun

  • @Soundwave1900
    @Soundwave1900 Рік тому +19

    Zajef: she's very strong and she opens up some opportunities but waste majority of those opportunities is just a slight upgrade over what dendro traveller already does.
    Tenten: OMG META DEFINING MUSTPULL THE ONLY 5/5 RATING IN TENTEN RATING HISTORY there's no meta in the game tho so don't feel pressured to pull her, also i'm strictly against hyping characters up, my channel started to save your primos because my friend pulled for c6 zhongli on release because of hype and he thought zhong is a main dps so he's still broke to this day BUT THE BEST 5* IN GENSHIN S HISTORY OMG

  • @shmarfle47
    @shmarfle47 Рік тому +2

    2:34 correct because her palace thing has a really high ceiling

  • @DarkChaos1701
    @DarkChaos1701 Рік тому +4

    I really enjoy her in a spread/ hyper bloom team with Kuki, Yelan and Eula. Yelan's burst doesn't seem to overtake quicken thanks to Nahida. Eula also gets to benefit from superconduct and yelan's massive damage buff while having healing and 3 off field DPS characters. And no Circle Impact!

  • @thebrigade7684
    @thebrigade7684 Рік тому +10

    Nahida is like a solid character I do think that many people overreact with her power levels but to be completely honest the other dendro characters just felt mid which is why she is so well received got her on my main hyperbloom is the only thing I played and it's Soo good when I probably won't switch off from it. On my alt though it's sitting in the Scaramouche waiting room

    • @baguette_connoisseur
      @baguette_connoisseur Рік тому +35

      @@bobjones1934 First you start talking about elements, and then you continue an argument by talking about... characters? Seems like incoherent logic.

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 Рік тому +3

      What will score Nahida a lot of points is QoL. She's easy to use, and she can hit widely dispersed mobs for big numbers. This means people won't feel like they have to put Kazuha, Venti, or Sucrose into all those Abyss groups. And that is a huge, and something people tend to overlook because it doesn't show up in a screen shot as a single big number. And I think she has a kinda Yae/Albedo/Kazuha appeal, in that she can bring enough to a team from off-field that you can cover a less optimal character on-field. Plus she can go into a wide variety of teams, as on field or off-field. These type of things are one of the reasons why characters like Kazuha, Raiden, Zhongli, and Kokomi have a lot of value. What they bring to a team goes beyond how quickly you can kill a Regisvine.
      I think if you like playing with Dendro, she's definitely a character to get. But if you aren't as interested in Dendro, well, existing ones will serve your needs fine. But then, we're at a point now where that holds true for pretty much any character, except for maybe Kazuha. Not saying he's a must have, as I don't have him and do just fine, but he's so good in so many teams.

    • @rrrr996
      @rrrr996 Рік тому +2

      @@bobjones1934 your opinion is mid and irrelevant

    • @jinwood
      @jinwood Рік тому +10

      Don bully@@bobjones1934 or he will delete his comments again 😭

    • @cigarafterkiss
      @cigarafterkiss Рік тому +2

      i still think dendro mc is good tbh. nahidas a great unit cause of her passives, shes a catalyst, her E, burst duration, multipliers. other than than it's also cuz dendro element is just cracked

  • @Sniffing_Rats
    @Sniffing_Rats Рік тому +2

    Nahida, kazu, yae, and koko is a very nice team! Haven’t managed to lvl nahida fully yet but she absolutely shreds the abyss

  • @chair3299
    @chair3299 Рік тому +9

    I have a hard time swirling electron on my keqing quicken team when its aoe but in single target its somewhat doable. Still nahida damage and buff is large enough if done right. Cant wait to crown her with only trash artifact and level 2 talents she's already doing 10k spreads

  • @naikou3611
    @naikou3611 Рік тому +2

    Been a while since we got a good unit? Very versatile? As expected from an archon, I guess. That title only explains a lot👏

  • @bluebeans3023
    @bluebeans3023 Рік тому +14

    Nahida seems so fun to play, but hearing Zajef remind me that she isn't necessary to play the dendro teams I want to helped me to stay strong for Scaramustpull 😤

    • @NLwino
      @NLwino Рік тому +5

      Also, she is an archon. She will likely get a rerun much faster then Scaramouche. So you always have the option to pull her later.

    • @fumiko203
      @fumiko203 Рік тому

      Yeah same, i will pull her in her rerun cause she is an archon when scaramouche maybe need too long time for rerun

  • @SomeDumbSpider
    @SomeDumbSpider Рік тому +14

    Isn't the only thing you need to do is just perform a NA with literally anyone to apply the Oz electro and thus get the Kazuha infusion, assuming Fischl is C6? Or am I missing something?

    • @jonnevitu4979
      @jonnevitu4979 Рік тому +1

      I was thinking about that too, first impression videos always misses some of these details lol

    • @molokwuchinonso9249
      @molokwuchinonso9249 Рік тому +1

      My Fischl at C3 :(

    • @SomeDumbSpider
      @SomeDumbSpider Рік тому

      @@molokwuchinonso9249 RIP. Though if you got Yae you could use her together with Fischl for a Quicken/Aggravate team with Yae applying extra electro.

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 Рік тому

      @@molokwuchinonso9249 She gets shop cons, she cycles through. Though she'll appear on a banner soon enough.

  • @Woman-Kisser
    @Woman-Kisser Рік тому +3

    My problem with burgeon Thoma is that Nahida's dendro application is so strong that usually enemies will have a dendro aura. Thoma is going to cause burning that even C6 Xingqiu isn't enough to keep up and you lose a lot of blooms. You could replace Xingqiu with Childe for better hydro application, but you lose much needed defensive utility. Afterall, building Thoma full em makes his shield paper thin. I don't have Kuki to test with, but Nahida-Kuki-Childe-Thoma might be interesting, especially because she applies electro in an aoe vs Fischl who is single target. Or dropping the electro character completely for Nahida-Yelan-Xingqiu-Thoma, but I don't have Yelan either to test.

    • @Woman-Kisser
      @Woman-Kisser Рік тому

      Just realized Kuki wouldn't work because she would also trigger hyperbloom

    • @bobsmith12345
      @bobsmith12345 Рік тому

      did you ever find a solution? im having the same problem rn :)

    • @Woman-Kisser
      @Woman-Kisser Рік тому

      @@bobsmith12345 I tried Nahida-Kokomi-Xingqiu-Thoma and that worked really well. The double hydro with on-field Nahida produced a lot of seeds for Thoma to burgeon.

    • @catsarecooIl
      @catsarecooIl Рік тому

      thoma, xingqiu, nahida, fishl works best imo, electro charged keeps the hydro on enemies and fishl rarely hits the blooms

  • @seven-xo6pe
    @seven-xo6pe Рік тому +1

    my friend randomly asked me to do their abyss with a nahida fridge comp they were using. Easily wiped the floor. They told me to check her build with a sinister grin on their face as i reveled upon a nahida with a apprentice's notes and level 6-12 artifacts. It was a 4 pcs set so it was understandable lol

  • @ooo1o8o1
    @ooo1o8o1 Рік тому +2

    Question not Meta/damage related, can anyone hear music when she run?

  • @austintsai7869
    @austintsai7869 Рік тому +27

    Would AA with C6 Fischl activate the A4 passive faster?

  • @nat6lbg440
    @nat6lbg440 Рік тому +1

    For quicken teams, I don't mind applying dendro after swirl to be honest that's still a boost and Nahida brings a lot of damage + a significant buff. Also with Keqing you can swap out anytime, meaning that you can easily refresh the buff. I compared to DMC and the difference is noticeable! around 35% damage increase

  • @shefjroth
    @shefjroth Рік тому +2

    Actually, Kuki is kinda a better choice for Ayato Hyperbloom since she can heal and also Ayato alone is enough for Hydro, you can replace Xingqiu with Kazuha for CC and Hydro swirl. Or Zhongli for single target.
    It's pretty broken tbh. Cleared current 12-1-1 with Ayato/Nahida/Kuki/Kazuha in 20s.

  • @talkingcowthatwasthereallalong

    Bloom, Burger and Hyperbloom damage can also proc her E. I did an experiment marking a hydro slime (and a mushroom in a puddle) with her E, the bloom damage activated her purification and it generated another seed, it keeps looping until the slime dies (or the mark expires). It may be possible to get things going again even when the dendro aura is gone, but I think it'll be hard because Nilou's cores detonate so fast you might run out before Nahida's proc cooldown comes back. Non-Nilou bloom teams can use the core time-out mechanic or just have another element because any reaction counts for Nahida's E proc.

  • @isoris2297
    @isoris2297 Рік тому +1

    I'm loving the my burgeon nahida/kokomi/thoma/fill and feels satisfying imo. and the hold skill is so satisfying to use.

  • @-Theo-
    @-Theo- Рік тому +15

    In Cyno teams Nahida is actually amazing because VV isn’t optimal with him anyways. She’s also been doing great in my Tighnari spread team. She only has that quicken problem with Keqing aggravate and teams where you’re using anemo and electro, and tbh I think Cyno + Nahida is better than Keqing aggravate without Nahida

    • @MO-zk8qs
      @MO-zk8qs Рік тому +69

      @@bobjones1934 this mentality is mid and cope lol

    • @ngasalaja2839
      @ngasalaja2839 Рік тому +11

      @@bobjones1934 yeah but do you not bored only play the same comp over and over? For me as an end game player, clearing abyss is already not a problem so f*ck meta and just be have fun with my aggravate Cyno and Keqing

    • @DeadRyGuy
      @DeadRyGuy Рік тому +10

      @@ngasalaja2839 strongly agree with this sentiment. If I want a quick, brain-dead abyss clear, meta is great. But it's at the point now where a national variant or vaporize or w/e are becoming a little dull. I've had more fun recently building out units like Thoma and Lisa.
      It's funny, I've heard about people who are all like, "play meta or you're dumb", but it's been a long time since I've seen one

    • @labomemnumbazerozeroyon7085
      @labomemnumbazerozeroyon7085 Рік тому +3

      Cyno nahida being better than other aggravate variants really depend on the account tbh. I have both cyno and keqing and because of my artifact stat biases, keqing ends up being way better even with the scuffed rotations with nahida. Probably because i also play better with quickswap teams. There are a lot of factors. There isn't really a lot of difference between aggravate teams.

    • @-Theo-
      @-Theo- Рік тому +1

      @@labomemnumbazerozeroyon7085
      I meant Cyno + Nahida feels stronger than Keqing + DMC. Keqing + Nahida is definitley much more equal

  • @mia_2043
    @mia_2043 Рік тому +34

    Can't you just start the Quicken rotation with Nahida Q then Fischl->VV->Nahida E->Driver to fix VV uptime

    • @somethingbesidesmyrealname5389
      @somethingbesidesmyrealname5389 Рік тому +1

      I do like Kazuha e -> Fischl q -> Nahida -> Kazuha EQ -> Keqing. I think it's generally fine, your rotation just feels slightly scuffed compared to being able to lay down dendro, electro and then just swirl. Still an upgrade over DMC IMO

    • @jyon7168
      @jyon7168 Рік тому +12

      and thats why sucrose swirl on basic atk is actually really helpful in case you have any mess ups/clunkiness, no need to wait for skill cd in an emergency (and em boost to synergize + C6 dmg % if you can land it). Also with fischl + yae im pretty sure theres enough off field electro app so it stays even with 2 times of swirl

    • @dragonchang4979
      @dragonchang4979 Рік тому +2

      @@jyon7168 someone with a brain

  • @astikach666
    @astikach666 Рік тому +23

    Nahida is one of the few characters where, it's not a must pull, but if you get here, you get a lot of value out of it, so relative to other characters, she's a must pull.

    • @TacticalDimples
      @TacticalDimples Рік тому +2

      If nahida isn’t a must pull, then who tf is?

    • @astikach666
      @astikach666 Рік тому +27

      @@TacticalDimples No one is. There are very good characters but don't need them. You pull for the character you like.

    • @maxpwer8294
      @maxpwer8294 Рік тому +8

      @@astikach666 Yep, the only characters that are "must pulls" are Xiangling, Xingqui, Bennett since they're a foundation of so many teams.

    • @Omar00L
      @Omar00L Рік тому

      @@maxpwer8294 and raiden and fishcl

    • @user-kp4xs3pz3o
      @user-kp4xs3pz3o Рік тому +6

      @@Omar00L You can work around Fischl and if you ever get Beidou, Beidou (and fischl) it is. Yeah Raiden is great af, but not a must pull, no one really is

  • @Friendfox
    @Friendfox Рік тому +1

    yep, matches my impressions - gonna build my fav codex

  • @knicklichtjedi
    @knicklichtjedi Рік тому

    A video for every team archetype? Heck yeah!

  • @guacamolegeneral1060
    @guacamolegeneral1060 Рік тому

    Your videos are on fire lately, keep it up dude 👌

  • @lihavalokki5705
    @lihavalokki5705 Рік тому

    Dendro in general really changed the game a lot by allowing so many different team comps. I like the fact that DMC and Collei still work perfectly fine in quicken teams, so all the units still have a use.

  • @agungprasetyo2988
    @agungprasetyo2988 Рік тому +3

    I'ts really fun to 36* abyss using nahida in burning and burgeon team comp.

  • @Nihilore
    @Nihilore Рік тому

    i've never had the chance to watch your streams so i'm only getting this from what pops up in the corner but you have mad taste in music lol, saw a Masterplan song pop up and had to comment haha

  • @YamiNoDaisuke
    @YamiNoDaisuke Рік тому +1

    Just use Kazuha's burst to keep applying shred on electro?

  • @bookstore101
    @bookstore101 Рік тому +7

    Use Yae Milo on quicken teams to eliminate issue of not applying enough electro.

    • @anyaaa2801
      @anyaaa2801 Рік тому +2

      Yeah. I was about to say that. Yae is so underrated. The fact that she can provide automatic electro application is really useful.

    • @giulia1361
      @giulia1361 Рік тому +1

      Oof not everyone has Yae though.

    • @noobbll
      @noobbll Рік тому +1

      Yae fishl venti nahida is my new favourite especially when theres lot of mobs

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 Рік тому

      @@giulia1361 Yae is rerunning next banner.

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 Рік тому

      @@anyaaa2801 Extremely. Completely hated by the community upon release because she had different mechanics, and now with dendro she's very meta but still outshined by Fischl.

  • @pixelfrog3d548
    @pixelfrog3d548 Рік тому +20

    My Nilou team felt lime shit before, now with Nahida its one of my fav teams to play

    • @christiandesanto7249
      @christiandesanto7249 Рік тому +12

      This 100%… I can’t even finish a rotation before everything is dead.

    • @veonoev
      @veonoev Рік тому +13

      Hate that their banners are right after one another... i lost my 50/50 :(

    • @simonditomasso9868
      @simonditomasso9868 Рік тому +6

      @@veonoev well, that’s what they were aiming for by putting them next to eachother 😢

    • @Ben-vg6ox
      @Ben-vg6ox Рік тому

      Same, it's so much better with Nahida

    • @Sku11zDude
      @Sku11zDude Рік тому +2

      the only reason i didn't get nilou is because of that damn self damage and needing to use barbruh

  • @yoiko89
    @yoiko89 Рік тому +1

    Yes I realized that in Quicken team but in Burgeon team and Hyper Bloom she good.
    My favorite team for Nahida is Burgeon. Thoma, Xingqui, Nahida and flex slot any hydro or pyro.

  • @Icredivm
    @Icredivm Рік тому +1

    A very nice comment for mr. strimmer
    and
    A very nice message for the editors

  • @ViperXzero50
    @ViperXzero50 Рік тому +1

    I like the fact that even with low investment her teams slap

  • @tetsuclaw
    @tetsuclaw Рік тому +1

    I am holding off my abyss till after I do archon quest to unlock new weekly boss. After that I plan to try Yae, Kuki, Nahida, Sucrose in 2nd half floor 12. In the deepwood/gilded domain so far I have seen Aggravate hits from Yae totems as high as 73.3k crits. I also saw 14.6k swirls on Sucrose too which is insane. I would post a link with screen shots but YT doesnt like that kind of thing.

  • @F1rstWorldNomaD
    @F1rstWorldNomaD Рік тому +1

    I like that you dont call any character a "must pull" cuz its true.
    You really dont NEED any character you dont get for free.
    Would be nice if you had a rating of some sort tho.
    Im not asking for this particular character, I already got her and Im super satisfied with having her.
    But in general, it would be nice with some indication of how worth it would be.
    Or rather your opinion on how worth it would be.

  • @JustSomeGuyWithAMug
    @JustSomeGuyWithAMug Рік тому +2

    15:52 best part of the video

  • @esyriz
    @esyriz Рік тому

    That one fischl kazuha infusion tip is going to save me from so much pain as a kazuha main

  • @puffin9709
    @puffin9709 Рік тому +2

    Nice to hear that Nahida is a strong character. I'm not pulling bc I can already 36* abyss and I'm not really interested in her design, but getting better Dendro units (and good characters in general) is always nice news.

  • @anishk452
    @anishk452 Рік тому +12

    Idk why but 16:16 to me was the best part of the entire video

  • @genshinwhale3526
    @genshinwhale3526 Рік тому +1

    Raiden kokomi nahida and kazuha is a killer team

  • @timuito243
    @timuito243 Рік тому +2

    4 archons team is actually nice. Full EM Raiden, shield Zhongli, VV Venti, and Deepwood Nahida is my team

    • @gilneyn.mathias1134
      @gilneyn.mathias1134 Рік тому

      Nb question - Isn't that an aggravate/spread team? In those teams, having EM is good, but u also need ATK/Crit, no?

    • @timuito243
      @timuito243 Рік тому

      @@gilneyn.mathias1134 I have shit luck with crit artifacts, so I go full EM lol

    • @gilneyn.mathias1134
      @gilneyn.mathias1134 Рік тому

      @@timuito243 Oh, F...😅 Eu geralmente levo moh tempo pra pegar EM, sofri bastante pra pegar os artefatos meia-boca que tão no meu Venti ;p

  • @manuelmiddleton1446
    @manuelmiddleton1446 Рік тому +7

    What if instead of waiting around with fischl you just auto once? Wouldn't that make it faster?

    • @Ben-vg6ox
      @Ben-vg6ox Рік тому +2

      Only works with C6 I assume

    • @manuelmiddleton1446
      @manuelmiddleton1446 Рік тому

      @@Ben-vg6ox ah makes sense, without c6 you could also e -> q to apply electro twice and quickly swap out

  • @cigarafterkiss
    @cigarafterkiss Рік тому +5

    she's def jack of all trades, and she's rly good in every role and teams...it's unfair cause they did cyno so bad and nahida's broken lol. im not pulling for her rn tho since im also saving up for polar star

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 Рік тому +1

    shes sooo adorable

  • @u.c9142
    @u.c9142 Рік тому +17

    Why didn't talk about Cyno? His hyperbloom team with her is crazy bc of his natural synergy with EM

    • @Anon-tq9gm
      @Anon-tq9gm Рік тому +1

      The quicken section kinda explains it already

    • @cheesynut
      @cheesynut Рік тому +9

      @@Anon-tq9gm more like have an issue in anemo but yeah cyno need gathering shit bcs his aoe kinda suc but hell who need cc when nahida E already linked each enemy

    • @u.c9142
      @u.c9142 Рік тому +10

      @@bobjones1934 yeah, sure mate, but better do your research before embarrassing yourself

  • @AznNati0n
    @AznNati0n Рік тому +2

    Hello, what was the build on that ayato when you made the showcase of ayato-nahida-raiden-xingqiu? Like what weapon and artifact set and main stat? Thanks!

  • @elknolasshrineofraja3966
    @elknolasshrineofraja3966 Рік тому +16

    🌸😹I would certainly without reservations utter “yes”, she is a must pull and one I was glad to C5 as of now, and to C6 post this upload!😹🌸

    • @Mike-fv4ms
      @Mike-fv4ms Рік тому +4

      Oh snap I didn't know you where a whale after all the years I've seen you lol nice 😎

    • @simonditomasso9868
      @simonditomasso9868 Рік тому +4

      Nice c6 nahida looks dope. There are no must pulls in genshin but she and kazuha are the closest thing to that (imo)

  • @figlet6427
    @figlet6427 Рік тому

    Thanks for the hard work Mr Zajef😔🙏

  • @miguel-fy7xi
    @miguel-fy7xi Рік тому

    if that's how it is
    something I came up with was keqing e->kazuha e->Nahida eq->deploy oz-> kazuha eq-> keqing combo
    that should make sure that:
    1) Nahida gets particles
    2) Fischl snapshots the buffs
    3) VV doesn't expire too fast

  • @sketchysketches381
    @sketchysketches381 Рік тому

    I hate how towards the end he figured put why I like dendor teams so much, sometimes I fuck up and my rotation becomes random bullshit go and it still works

  • @Rika-sensei
    @Rika-sensei Рік тому

    6:03 Literally every is saying the 4 stars on the Nahida banner don’t sync at all, but then u have this

  • @F1rstWorldNomaD
    @F1rstWorldNomaD Рік тому +1

    My Nahida is lvl70 with a 70 sacfrag lvl5 skills and halfarsed artifacts.
    Still took down Mangu Kenki and that new Dendro Bird in less than 10 seconds while paired with Fischl and Yae.
    Im not saying there arent better teams or even that this is a particular good one.
    Just saying its definitely good enough.

  • @raulmaltrain6893
    @raulmaltrain6893 Рік тому +6

    a note for your quicken dismissal...
    -fischl isn't the greatest at opening the rotation because her initial application is weak.
    use kuki instead that can E-Q at the start and there's no way to overtake her electro
    sample rotation: nahida E->kuki E-NA(if c4, it also counts as skill dmg to instantly stack the key of khaj passive)-Q->kazuha E-Q->keqing/cyno/razor stuff...
    -fischl if c6 could be simpler since you can E-NA-swap but i haven't tried it.
    yes you lose fischl's damage. but you win kuki's healing and allow nahida to also be a spread machine.

    • @mia_2043
      @mia_2043 Рік тому +14

      Fischl is most of the damage in Quicken teams, it's like swapping out your HT/XL for Xinyan/Thoma in a vape team (Kuki has better Aggravate damage but the point is the core is lost). You're much much better off swapping VV for 4AP ZL (close buffs and shreds dendro in addition) solving your swirl and defense headaches in one than you are swapping out Fischl. Or if you really want to play Aggravate Kuki play her and Fischl together then on field Nahida/Sucrose

    • @raulmaltrain6893
      @raulmaltrain6893 Рік тому +1

      @@mia_2043 fischl is NOT most of to the dmg in quicken though... it's your on field electro dps (choose between keqing cyno razor or even raiden) and now nahida is outputting similar levels of dmg via spread/TKP. now that the dendro off field actually deals damage (sorry collei/DMC) fischl's burden has been lifted somewhat-
      kuki also has advantages fischl does not: -kuki provides more electro for the setup than fischl does. if the setup doesn't work smoothly with fischl, then she losses a lot of value.
      -kuki consolidates the healer role and has good support weapons and artifacts: she can use key of khaj to give around 100 EM to 3 units that actually scale well with it in quicken teams (nahida loves EM/kazuha or sucrose love EM/ the electro on field loves EM)
      -she can use xyphos moonlight to deal good aggravate damage and also boost ER for the entire team
      -she can use deepwood more effectively than fischl due to having good aoe on her skill compared to OZ and she does not lose as much value compared to fischl who prefers damage oriented sets, this also allows nahida to go guilded dreams
      -TLDR: kuki is just as good as fischl for quicken teams, while obviously having less personal dps, the rDPS and utility she provides more than makes up for it. if kokomi can get away with not being called garbage only for her application, then kuki who provides more than her can totally compete with fischl.
      Sample team:
      -(electro on field dps)
      -kuki/millelith etc...)
      -nahida
      -anemo VV CC unit
      if you replace kuki with fischl you do more damage but your rotation is stricter. not only because you need to apply more electro with fischl by staying on field or using NA with c6, but also because you need to swap back to fischl which in a cyno/razor team is either a dps loss or awkward to play around (keqing doesn't mind due to her quickswap style and raiden has 9 secs of field time)

    • @xlament6926
      @xlament6926 Рік тому +2

      ​@@raulmaltrain6893 I hate when people try to 'teach' others when they know nothing themselves... fischl's a4 passive is the reason why keqing is good.... look it up for yourself....

    • @raulmaltrain6893
      @raulmaltrain6893 Рік тому

      @@xlament6926 did i ever say anything about fischl's A4 being bad? get your head out of your ass dude...
      keqing does more damage than fischl in quicken teams, this does not mean that fischl does not work well with keqing. but it's not a requirement for keqing/cyno/razor/etc...
      kuki is a good option to make your rotations comfortable, specially when your on field prefers longer field time like cyno.
      and the rDPS kuki provides does not fall that far behind fischl's personal DMG.
      imagine being pedantic while completely wrong about keqing being good only with fischl...
      what more evidence do you need than zajef actually ditching nahida for DMC due to how weird starting with fischl is? kuki would make the rotation he wants to do actually work without having to micromanage your fieldtimes

  • @maxpwer8294
    @maxpwer8294 Рік тому +5

    Nahida is probably the most fun catalyst user imo, I was super happy when I won the 50/50 cause I had 20 wishes left and the last thing I wanted to do was spend money on this game. 6/6/6 talents and she already feels great, no one is a "must pull" but she is definitely a very good character, with more time I wouldn't be surprised if she's Raiden or Kazuha levels in pull value.

    • @BlackOilyMenKissing
      @BlackOilyMenKissing Рік тому +2

      Both nahida and heizou are the most dun catalysts

    • @thebrigade7684
      @thebrigade7684 Рік тому +4

      Probably going to be easily dethroned (in fun factor) by Scaramouche

    • @maxpwer8294
      @maxpwer8294 Рік тому

      @@thebrigade7684 I just looked up the leaks for his kit, and you're probably right.

  • @imparalyzed763
    @imparalyzed763 Рік тому +1

    I've been running Stringless Yelan on Nahida-Nilou teams to help with the lack of single target dps and against bosses and works quite well by onfielding Nahida. I haven't really died to my own blooms yet and really only run Kokomi as my healer, who is using an r5 sac frags so I can reposition the healing whenever I want to move Nahida to a different spot.

  • @sufficientlyalive555
    @sufficientlyalive555 Рік тому

    How many numbers you want?
    Zajef : Yes!!

  • @sketchysketches381
    @sketchysketches381 Рік тому +2

    I was gonna wait for Zajeff's take to figure out teams and builds but I was gonna pull her no matter what. I saved 35k+ primos and 20 fates for her. I got her on my first 10 pull on her banner, basically just used the anniversary fates so don't even feel guilty for letting my patience slip

  • @jhl6849
    @jhl6849 Рік тому

    I have never cried for Artifact/Weapon Quick Swap more than ever in my life after Nahida came out.
    There are 4 sets you may want to rotate on her depending on the comp.
    4pc DW or GD, 3x EM or EM Crit Dendro Dmg
    In the end I just gave up and went with the most universal one.
    Swapping Raiden between her carry and Hyperbloom build is also another !$@#@#

  • @shirochansensei
    @shirochansensei Рік тому +1

    Then for the first time dori actually is better for ease in quicken cuz she applies electro on the character itself if im not mistaken 🤣

  • @deadgodsenpai8725
    @deadgodsenpai8725 Рік тому

    9:05 Editor muted his WHOLE donation💀

  • @mustif1
    @mustif1 Рік тому +1

    i liked Yoimiya xq beidou nahida burgeon team for some funs and its actually feels solid a lot of aoe dmg

  • @gianmarcellsilverioguzman2286
    @gianmarcellsilverioguzman2286 Рік тому +1

    i see a very clear lack of yae for quicken

  • @PurplexxInuxBokuSS
    @PurplexxInuxBokuSS Рік тому +2

    Hmm, Zajef convinces me once again to switch to Fav on Nahida since I have a crit circlet on her anyways.

    • @dire213
      @dire213 Рік тому

      same. i get em bonus from her passive anyway because i have a triple em raiden.

  • @Heldor100
    @Heldor100 Рік тому +5

    Why not replacing Keqing with Yae in aggravate? She benefits a lot from the extra EM that Nahida gives her and your rotation prolly starts with Yae so they will have electro on for swirls.
    EDIT: also why Gilded in Quicken?

    • @user-eg6jf7ry7e
      @user-eg6jf7ry7e Рік тому +3

      Keqing can do faster rotations and deals more AOE damage, Yae works too, I guess he's come up with Keqing just as an example.
      Quicken is the only archetype where there are no seeds exploding so Nahida is the only character that benefits from res shred, while em from gilded can be shared through her A1

    • @bookstore101
      @bookstore101 Рік тому +1

      He doesn’t own Yae Miko.

    • @felipebraga5159
      @felipebraga5159 Рік тому

      Yae is just worst Fischl, and not really as useful as Keqing in this team, she has less AOE, higher ICDs and is a slowswap character with lots of field time.

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 Рік тому

      One other thing to keep in mind with Yae is that her turrets don't snapshot. This means that the extra EM Nahida gives only helps Yae when she's on the field.
      Still who I use in my aggravate team, alongside Fischl. And now with Nahida in the mix, well, it really doesn't matter how spread out the enemies are, hehe.

    • @TheMirksta
      @TheMirksta Рік тому

      @@felipebraga5159 Yae is kinda worse Fischl but you can't use 2 Fischl at once, so using both at the same time can be useful, as in this team.

  • @j0hnnyblade
    @j0hnnyblade Рік тому

    I noticed Zajef is saying ‘units’ for both characters and the element application. It’s probably wishful thinking that this can be improved upon to not get confusing after many months of talking in this manner but just putting it out there

  • @MavisE7
    @MavisE7 Рік тому

    Watching the video after finishing the archon quest and man I'm fucking devastated

  • @kneegmode3232
    @kneegmode3232 Рік тому +8

    why name it "is she a must pull" if your answer is always "never not even ever will never be ever"

    • @yuvx8516
      @yuvx8516 Рік тому +5

      I mean it's an answer

    • @nyx4074
      @nyx4074 Рік тому +2

      Because it's a question and an answer.

  • @dks9151
    @dks9151 Рік тому +1

    Thanks to her i was able to clean each of the abyss floors around 30/50 seconds her dmg might not be that high but now i understand why they decided to make her ult deal not dmg

    • @raulmaltrain6893
      @raulmaltrain6893 Рік тому

      her dmg is very high though.
      she hits harder than albedo while also providing elemental application.

  • @everydaynabil1937
    @everydaynabil1937 Рік тому +1

    I use barbara full healer protype ember, hp/er/healing% with nilou team and it works wonder with nahida. Barbara E applies little hydro offfield so dps loss is not really that much. When nahida health drops soo low, i simply switch to barbara to burst and swap back to nahida. The instant burst heal feels good

  • @hydreigon2709
    @hydreigon2709 Рік тому +1

    The enemies are just too weak, istg every time I want to go deal damage with Cyno the enemies are already dead and Nahidas mark is gone.

  • @Bakagii
    @Bakagii Рік тому

    burn ganyu is fun to play ngl. I always just rotate every 3 charge shots to maintain the burning, refresh shields, and maybe funnel a bennet burst

  • @kooksgarage3301
    @kooksgarage3301 Рік тому

    Thank you for being cut dry about it I’m tired of all the nerds saying she’s a must pull and in touchable dendro like the dendro traveler can’t apply it or something 😂

  • @stelar7905
    @stelar7905 Рік тому +2

    So Nahida applies 1,5U every time she does a tick with her E?

    • @ame5851
      @ame5851 Рік тому

      Yes with no icd and can be reduced by ult

  • @Lesterberne
    @Lesterberne Рік тому

    I’m surprised you didn’t go over Quickbloom since you mentioned in your previous video that faster Dendro application might allow you to run a unit like Yelan and we have 1.5U here with Nahida

  • @zain3x
    @zain3x Рік тому +1

    2:53 why not just use Dori to get Electro swirl?

  • @Sunhwk
    @Sunhwk Рік тому

    I used her as soon I leveled her up to 70 on abyss floor 12, and I couldn't believe how fast she killed the enemies - even single target. She literally had the most meh weapon and talents 3/3/2, and I still managed to 12* it. Hyperbloom has become one of my favorite teams rn and Nahida makes it ridiculously more fun.

    • @XLbuffLive
      @XLbuffLive Рік тому

      Hyperbloom just doesn't need her damage. Easy dendro from her + hydro + full EM electro and it's ready.

  • @orlandocollado9851
    @orlandocollado9851 Рік тому +2

    i would like to know what you think about pairing nahida with tighnari in a double electro/dendro team