About 38 years ago when I was driving I stopped and walking the field and then i walked to the graves it was getting dark so I thought I might as well spend the night so as night came I fell asleep my husband and I was woke up by the sounds of horse and loud yelling from the indians we got out of our truck and looked around but there was nothing it was dead silent we got back in the truck and looked at each other we both knew what we heard so we went back to sleep... Then in the next two weeks we were watching Nova and they were talking about the little big horn and they said that the battle could still be heard there ...
Much respect for the American Indians who gave their lives to protect their land, culture and families form the predators that came to destroyed everything.
To Rob Silkensten and Joseph Neumeyer the builder of that fantastic Diorama. Congratulations on Such a Grand and Breathtaking Piece of Work? IT is just Breathtaking, & totally inspiring from the First BT moment I saw it. From then on it was as though I was on Last Stand Hill with the last Men of the 7th Cavalry & Lt. Col. Custer's Battl. fighting till the last round of Ammo was fired or they were Killed by one of Their fiercely War Painted Indian assailants, who were welding Rifle's, pistols, War lance's, Stone headed War Club's and just personal Knife's to kill with, and then Scalp them with even if alive afterwards. The authentic and Brutal, look was So real that it Totally amazed Me at it's mere Scale of True bloody Fighting, and the landscape, like it is, in that area of Montana. Then the posturing of the combatants was just amazing from both sides to the Eye. Also the paint renderings on the Indian War Shields was realistic. From having seen a couple of Hundred or so Dio's over the last 55 yrs roughly. I have seen many of them for oh Various Displays of personal nature & Collection's and at & on Historical Sites, that I've visited through My Lifetime. The pure Crafting of doing Such Dioramas is Still in My Blood, from the Year's. I was a teenager trying too create them in My Room while I was busy Wargaming up there. Well Thank You for Sharing, this Great Stuff. 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦❤️🤍💙🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍😎🤔🤔.
Actual battle on the hill probably lasted a little longer than it took to watch this video. Ironically, the better the soldier's defense was, the more Indians came to join in, and the greater the chances that the soldiers would, ultimately, be killed to the last man. By prolonging the fight, even by minutes, the soldiers sealed their fate in the succeeding minutes. Once the soldier's revolvers were empty, they had no way to defend themselves in the close quarters melee. There are very few bullet casings for revolvers found at the site by later archaeologists because the empty casings were still in the useless revolvers (it took much too long to reload), and the Indians took them as booty.
Instead of the music you should have had the sound of very distant battle sounds of men, horses, gunfire, and Indians. But done at a very low volume...so as to play with ones imagination of what it would have been like to be there. Then at the conclusion of the battle with the dead on both sides lying on the ground just the haunting sound of the wind blowing over the entire scene. Otherwise this was excellent!! ^^
This is an example of tremendous work, fine detail, and interesting dynamic layout. I would be curious to know where you found the backdrop of rolling hills. Very good photography. My only criticism, (and believe me there is very little to criticize), is the fact you've included very large, glacial boulders...some the size of a small automobile. If you've ever walked the ground of the actual battlefield in Montana you can see there is not a stone anywhere...not even rocks the size of a baseball. There was nothing for Custer's men to take cover behind except tall grass and a few sagebrush. There were no boulders the size of a VW on Custer Hill. Other than that, this is a museum quality diorama and you should be very proud of your work. Bravo!
Thanks for your comments. I know Joe and he is a stickler for detail and historical accuracy. However I will pass your comments on to him so he can answer as to his reference. I will post later. You can also visit dynamicdioramas for more of his work.
This one is by far the best Custer Last Stand diorama I've ever seen, you can see the effort, time and dedication of the author, is very detailed and a real pleasure to the eye. I am not criticizing this outstanding job, just the only thing I would do to make this diorama 100% accurate is to remove the figures of the Pawnee warriors fighting along side by side with the Sioux and Cheyennes. Pawnee were natural enemies of the Sioux back in the old days. The Pawnee warriors are those with part shaved heads (hair Mohican style) but I guess the author used these figures to add (for everybody to see) more realism regarding indian overwhelming superiority over the soldiers because the Sioux figures available on the market on this scale are limited. Thanks for sharing this awesome diorama, I can watch it again and again and never get tired of it.
Lose the clouds, the big boulders, the neon bright paint on Indians and horses and the unrealistic high hills in the background and it is great work. By the time the Indians rushed last stand hill most troopers were wounded, down or almost dead. Numerous accounts of battle participants document this fact.
The Hilltop battle where Custer made his last stand was fought out in the open. Custer had as few as 200 men overwhelmed by as many as 3000 Indians within an hour. Although I know Joseph researches his subjects thoroughly it is nonetheless an artistic vision rather than purporting to be an actual representation of the event.
Agreed that it is an artistic vision. I did want to mention that in my opinion, the entire battle was out in the open. Custer Ridge is entirely visible in a 360 range. Go stand anywhere on the battlefield & you're a good target. Also, it has been noted that Custer may have only had the men he had led down to the river, which was only 40-50 men. These men would have made up the bulk of the Last Stand. They were joined by stragglers & survivors of the rout of the rest of Custer's command to the east. This meant Custer may have had only 70-80 men w/him at the end. Estimates vary widely as to the size of the village & the number of warriors. My POV is that at most there were 1500 warriors. That's still a lot, especially if you're the one standing out in the open. During subsequent investigations by the army, many witnesses mentioned numbers in the thousands. It has been argued that these men were mistaken in their estimates from suffering from what we might call today PTSD. Additionally, some psychologists have determined that a traumatic event is likely to be remembered in exaggerated tones by some people, thus resulting in something like saying there were 4000 warriors out there. It also serves as a buffer from criticism. I know everyone would love definitive info re: this battle; but we have to make the best of being amateur detectives.
Incredible art work, shows how fierce the Native Americans were in battle. Custer was an arrogant jerk and deserved to be defeated in a horrific battle. Too bad some of the brave soldiers went out with him, they should have just stepped aside and pointed. I wonder if we'll ever know who took his scalp and where it is.
@@tonywallbank6511 that's interesting, an assumptive error on my part, those Tribes we're sure fired up, but maybe wiping out the whole outfit was victory enough for them, and maybe these tribes did not practice that. I'm not a great fan of that era as you can see.. thanks for the correction. I've heard estimates that the battle went on anywhere from 1- 3 hours. Those soldiers must have had a lot of ammunition.
He was 1 of 2 soldiers that kept their scalps all the rest had been mutilated after the battle,I believe that was done by the squaws not the warriors they believed if the body was cut and disabled they would pass into the afterlife like that and couldn’t function as a warrior.
@@tonywallbank6511 Tony, makes since, as there were lots of woman n chdren killed , the women would want some pay back. Plus the warriors were probably looking out for more troops and looking for high ground to ambush. You've got my intetest cooking , I may have to check this out in more detail . Thanks.
@@c123bthunderpig I realised a long time ago that the story I had been told at school wasn’t true and after reading bury my heart at wounded knee by Dee Brown and other books that the Native Americans had been badly wronged by us white men in our greed for gold and land..I can’t imagine how those soldiers felt on that hill that day it must have been terrifying but effectively there was no last stand,the native Americans always told the truth about the battle it’s just no one listened.
While this is by far the most famous battle between European stock combatants versus indigenous people in North America, I would love to see a diorama of the lesser known, though perhaps the bloodiest known "Indian Battle" in North America that took place on 18 October 1540, between about 500 Spanish Conquistadors under Hernando De Soto, and over 3,000 Muskogee warriors of Chief Tuscaloosa at the walled town of Mabila in what is now central Alabama. Though the natives feigned friendship, they treacherously drew the Spanish into their town filled with hidden warriors with the intent of killing them, but due to their superior armor, weapons, horses and fierce war dogs, the Spanish ended up slaughtering over 2500 Indians to their loss of about 200 men.
I was there for 4 hours a little over a week ago. There are NO big rocks anywhere near the last stand hill side. They shot their horse Yes. Large rocks NO. And the Indians did NOT look like gym queens.
@@patrickroy3380 In my reading there was tall sage brush that has since been burned off. The landscape would have been completely different Other than rocks and trees which there are NON! The Indians were able to crawl up the hill after killing 25-30 that were down the ravine where they showered arrows down over the crest of the ravine. Also I've seen what they had for weapons at the Crazy Horse center at the Crazy Horse Monument. They had iron arrow heads that were traded to them for furs. And let me tell you! They looked BRUTAL!!!
@@63bplumb Yes the Indians had 2 different types of arrows heads ones for hunting which they could reuse and another for warfare with another edge so if you tried to remove it , it would rip everything in its path , nasty . From my studies at the start of the battle the Indians had 60% bow an arrow , 30 single shot and 10% repeater and with that horrible terrain to fight Indians bow and arrow did much of the damage. Garryowen
The lust for gold drew many prospectors to try their luck The army was employed to protect Them resulting in the three pronged Attack by terry gibbon and Custer However Custer couldnt wait and wanted all the glory!
@@uncleleo7637 There's barely any dirt. Notice the indentations on the ground at Reno Point. You can hardly notice them as they're only about 3-4 inches high. There's very thin soil in this location; &, additionally, the men did not carry shovels w/them which only made any attempt at breastworks that much more difficult.
@Roy Bevan 20,000 Zulus maybe 1200 to 1500British and local troops but a one shot rifle and being out flanked and no proper fortifications of the camp did not help
Like WOW! Really good job! However I am one of the believers, that Custer was the first one shot. Therefore, leader killed end of the Mission. New Mission; Tactical Withdrawal, with leaders body.
The two men closest to him pulled him out of the river put him back on his horse. Then the Soldiers rode to Last Stand Hill. Nothing to it. Custer only had two gun shot wounds. His girlfriend kept the other squaws from mutilating him, too bad. One gunshot wound was to his chest. I believe that he got that at the Ford. The second was to his face or head. That one is when Chief Gall shot him. Custer was either near death.or dead when Chief Gall shot him. The wound from the Ford may have been incapacitating but, not fatal. I believe he may have been alive when he was brought to Last Stand Hill. The battle there lasted 15 minutes or less. Thus, he may have been alive sort of when Gall shot him. T.
John King If Custer was shot at the river and basically mortally wounded why was Keogh next in charge not with Cooke on Last stand hill ? Nice try and Garryowen
@@johnking1463FACT once again this is easily debunked as Custers wounds were mortal and if he was shot at the river why wasn't Capt Keogh with Cooke on Last stand hill , how can anyone who claims to know anything about CLS even entertain the thought, Garryowen sorry if I was tough on you as maybe your new to the discussion but that doesn't excuse false information.
Patrick Roy #33. Have you read the Battle at Greasy Grass? It's based on Indian testimony. After all, they were in possession of the Battle Field at the end of the day. Thier account should mean something. Read it if you haven't already than get back to me in that. Fulmen Jacio!
Yea my buddy Joe is extremely detailed in his work. It was always a pleasure to put music to his works. He’d photograph his projects as if it were a movie. Very inspiring.
In late June, southeastern Montana is generally pretty hot and dry. Much of the vegetation away from the river or creek bottoms is browning off, the wind[and it seems like its always windy]wicks away the moisture. A single horseman can raise a dust plume that can be seen a mile away.
@@davidmurray5399FACT: not that spring lol it snowed in June and lots of rain , the timber Reno hid in wouldn't burn it was so wet when the savages tried to burn him out and LSH was still pretty greenish that fateful day. Also remember Custer couldnt find a way across the fords as the ground was like quicksand from all the precipitation. Benteen also confirmed that as only the peaceful NA farmers knew the areas that were cross able, Garryowen
@@patrickroy3380 The account by Lt. Weir describing what he viewed from the promontory that now bears his name, indicates the it was difficult to discern what was happening along the Greasy Grass/Battle Ridge area, due to the dust and presumably the smoke from gunfire. Weir could see people walking and riding indistinctly in the haze, sometimes firing into the ground[or so it appeared], what was happening or had happened was impossible for him to tell.
@@davidmurray5399 and your point is ? They were obviously killing soldiers , so please what's your point I'm currently reading my 902,903,904 and 905 book on Custer and his last stand, Garryowen
@@patrickroy3380 My point is, having walked and ridden over most of the battle area[in late June and early August], I am familiar with the conditions that prevail there. The higher up you go from the river bottom the ground conditions get drier. The wind is a constant, which also accelerates the evaporation of moisture. Others beside Lt. Weir who were present at the battle and survived to relate their experience, mention the dust that made observation difficult.
yeah.. there are few things it got wrong.... The battle started in the morning, and the "Indians" wouldn't have had time to paint their faces .... Crazy Horse never had a gun or killed anybody in the battle, but rode in front to lead the warriors into battle like a General ... War paint on the horses could of happened as these were marks of ownership ... but you are right about the face-paint
@@monoloco99 you obviously know little about the Indian culture or their guerilla warfare tactics. They weren't like soldiers they answered to nobody , they could enter or leave at battle at anytime. They could also not even participate if they chose. To reput your no face paint statement surely at a battle like The Washita but they had plenty of time at CLS and the numbers to assemble. Just some water and powders and done . Warriors had strong spiritual rituals and superstitions they would NEVER abandon , think of it like entering a battle without a weapon as they were naked without it . Yes that year the grass was green and the Fords were like quicksand Christ they had snow in June. Garryowen
@@monoloco99 I even fact checked it for you on the peaceful NA farmers side Kate bighead said in her recounts old men helped the others apply their warpaint granted she was 80 when she was interviewed, Garryowen .
Ken Jones heres a quarter buy a clue , Only the Boy General showed up to fight that day so try reading a book or a thousand like myself or others on CLS. Garryowen
@@waqqas800 Custer's battalion had sufficient ammunition. Three things doomed his men; the terrain, poor of communications, and the lack of affirmative/bold action from the Reno/Benteen battalions. One might also include Crooks' tentative, confused fiasco on the Rosebud and the subsequent retreat. "Custer's Luck" couldn't overcome all that....
@@richardschaefer4807 My opinion is that poor field leadership, overconfidence, & inexperienced troopers were the main causes of the rout. None of the other arguments would matter if Custer had followed good, tactical protocol. He divided his command not once but several times during the course of this campaign while in enemy territory & w/out knowing the exact location of the enemy or his strength. This was due to Custer's supreme self-confidence. He was known to brag that the Seventh Cavalry could bring the Sioux to bay all by itself. Third, this wasn't Seal Team Six out on the battlefield. Custer liked to brag that the Seventh Cavalry was the best outfit in the army. The reality is that they were not any more accomplished than any other unit. They just had better marketing. Sort of like the Dallas Cowboys, LOL. At this time, almost 25% of Custer's force was brand new. Many had never fired a weapon in their lives. They were not given extensive training. This lack of professionalism helped to rob the command of any sort of composure in an extremely stressful situation. There were reports from Indians of soldiers not fighting back but focused instead on trying to get away. In those situations, the Indians said it was just like hunting buffalo. Poor command decisions, hubris, & a rattled detachment; that's what doomed these men.
@@richstex4736 No commanding officer, no matter how skilled and competent, can be expected to win a battle when 70% of his command, within the sound of the gun fire, stay out of the battle after being ordered to "Come Quick". Reno was utterly terrified and drunk. A few days before, Crook had retreated with a much larger force, after sustaining light casualties and did not try and make contact with the other two commands. We also need to consider that the best officers went with Custer. I am certain that if Keogh or Tom Custer had been in Reno's place the day would have turned out very differently. You might even say that, "military protocol" destroyed Custer's command. Finally, the open terrain was Custer's worst enemy, and the fact that there were just too many Indians. You might say the battle was, "A real "Custer Fluck".
@@richardschaefer4807 When you say "within the sound of gunfire" remember that about 3-4 miles separated Reno & Custer & it was full of Indian warriors. Remember, also, that Capt. Weir did attempt a sortie but was turned back because there were too many Indians. Also, Benteen was even further away when he received Custer's message. It didn't help that the messenger was an Italian immigrant whose mastery of English was sorely deficient so that he could not accurately describe Custer's situation. All Benteen could summarize was that Custer was handling things well. I won't debate Reno's state of mind during this battle. It is likely that he had partaken of whiskey around this time as he had a well-known problem w/the bottle. It is also seems evident that he did panic, which caused his command to plunge into chaos. Re: military protocol; Reno was second in command on the battlefield. Custer assigned an important duty to Reno to carry out that day. Keogh had his own company to command. Tom Custer seemed to always be near G. Custer, so an independent detachment seemed unlikely. As for Crook, all I can say is that he did what he thought prudent. Had Custer acted as Crook did, the campaign likely would have turned out more favorably for him. RE: the open terrain; yes, nobody wants to be caught out in the open against a highly mobile adversary. However Reno & Benteen held out while being pinned in the same terrain because they maintained their force intact, did not underestimate the enemy, & had better command structure. Some people say that Reno & Benteen betrayed Custer & left him to his fate. It is so easy for us to say what action could & should have been taken. However, we weren't in their position w/enemy combatants everywhere; & a reasonable person might have done just as Reno & Benteen did, which was to construct some sort of defensive perimeter. Last-minute cavalry rescues make for good theater, but the odds that day were against that happening. Again, everyone has a take on this battle. It is a mystery for the ages.
It funny on how immigrants and others say "Indian" or "American Indians" and yet they are incorrect about both terms 🙄. If you don't know the tribe name, whereas the native people have been living on the land before the immigrants changed the name twice from Amerigo and then to America. And the American government broke its treaty and now every immigrants are calling them "American Indians"... No treaty, no land, just the government is squatting on native lands.
Intersting depiction of the Native Americans. Looks like they just completed a power work out at Gold's Gym. Not accurate at all. Also the clothing, war paint depictions is totally off as well. The only thing that is accurate is the repeater rifles they carried.
@@PeterPeli Meant absolutely no disprespect to Native Americans. I was just commenting on the art. Sorry you took it the wrong way. No human being looks like that.
A very dark time in native American history when their lands were robbed their people genocide with the same attitude as the nazis had for jews. I hope in time they can forgive but not forget.
they should tear down that monument to custer and instead put up one for the first people nation warriors to tried to save their land and people from genocide.
And put up a monument to the Lakota? The Lakota invaded the territory of all of the neighboring tribes and stole their land. They burned their villages and tortured, mutilated and killed everybody including the women and children. The Crow hated the Lakota and Crow scouts led Custer to the Lakota camp on the Little Bighorn which was on Crow territory.
it was a major victory for the Sioux, as they lost fewer men... Custer made every mistake you could make in battle, the Sioux out smarted him... it was the biggest defeat in battle for the Americans since the Civil War....
Great diorama and music is awsome.
how dynamic...a moment frozen in time...thanks for posting
Outstanding diorama! Without question one of the finest, and most meticulously detailed, of this subject matter, i have ever seen!
So BEAUTIFUL~SHOWING BOTH SIDES IN BATTLE~IT WAS A GREAT VICTORY FOR THE INDIANS..
About 38 years ago when I was driving I stopped and walking the field and then i walked to the graves it was getting dark so I thought I might as well spend the night so as night came I fell asleep my husband and I was woke up by the sounds of horse and loud yelling from the indians we got out of our truck and looked around but there was nothing it was dead silent we got back in the truck and looked at each other we both knew what we heard so we went back to sleep... Then in the next two weeks we were watching Nova and they were talking about the little big horn and they said that the battle could still be heard there ...
Can you tell me any more?
I knew there were ghosts there...you just confirmed that
By the time the few gathered on The Ridge it must have been chaos madness and sheer terror
Agreed 💯
Much respect for the American Indians who gave their lives to protect their land, culture and families form the predators that came to destroyed everything.
To Rob Silkensten and Joseph Neumeyer the builder of that fantastic Diorama. Congratulations on Such a Grand and Breathtaking Piece of Work? IT is just Breathtaking, & totally inspiring from the First BT moment I saw it. From then on it was as though I was on Last Stand Hill with the last Men of the 7th Cavalry & Lt. Col. Custer's Battl. fighting till the last round of Ammo was fired or they were Killed by one of Their fiercely War Painted Indian assailants, who were welding Rifle's, pistols, War lance's, Stone headed War Club's and just personal Knife's to kill with, and then Scalp them with even if alive afterwards.
The authentic and Brutal, look was So real that it Totally amazed Me at it's mere Scale of True bloody Fighting, and the landscape, like it is, in that area of Montana. Then the posturing of the combatants was just amazing from both sides to the Eye. Also the paint renderings on the Indian War Shields was realistic.
From having seen a couple of Hundred or so Dio's over the last 55 yrs roughly. I have seen many of them for oh Various Displays of personal nature & Collection's and at & on Historical Sites, that I've visited through My Lifetime. The pure Crafting of doing Such Dioramas is Still in My Blood, from the Year's. I was a teenager trying too create them in My Room while I was busy Wargaming up there. Well Thank You for Sharing, this Great Stuff. 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦❤️🤍💙🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍😎🤔🤔.
Awesome Diorama of the battle ☝️
Absolutely awesome! 👍🏻
I'm sure it took a long time to set that up very beautiful very professional realistic pattern
Actual battle on the hill probably lasted a little longer than it took to watch this video. Ironically, the better the soldier's defense was, the more Indians came to join in, and the greater the chances that the soldiers would, ultimately, be killed to the last man. By prolonging the fight, even by minutes, the soldiers sealed their fate in the succeeding minutes. Once the soldier's revolvers were empty, they had no way to defend themselves in the close quarters melee. There are very few bullet casings for revolvers found at the site by later archaeologists because the empty casings were still in the useless revolvers (it took much too long to reload), and the Indians took them as booty.
Excellent job
That is very well done!
The Native Indians look very well fed compared to the blue coats!!!
No boulders on last stand hill.
Also likely no fighting Custer rather mortally wounded Custer from the Ford fight.
@@samcasey2067 no evidence he was shot at the Ford
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc If you discount all the Native American testimony and forensic evidence, sure.
Been there 7 times
Man, this is very cool
Instead of the music you should have had the sound of very distant battle sounds of men, horses, gunfire, and Indians. But done at a very low volume...so as to play with ones imagination of what it would have been like to be there. Then at the conclusion of the battle with the dead on both sides lying on the ground just the haunting sound of the wind blowing over the entire scene. Otherwise this was excellent!! ^^
stuñning work
Custer Screwed Up & PAID For It...
This is an example of tremendous work, fine detail, and interesting dynamic layout. I would be curious to know where you found the backdrop of rolling hills. Very good photography. My only criticism, (and believe me there is very little to criticize), is the fact you've included very large, glacial boulders...some the size of a small automobile. If you've ever walked the ground of the actual battlefield in Montana you can see there is not a stone anywhere...not even rocks the size of a baseball. There was nothing for Custer's men to take cover behind except tall grass and a few sagebrush. There were no boulders the size of a VW on Custer Hill. Other than that, this is a museum quality diorama and you should be very proud of your work. Bravo!
Thanks for your comments. I know Joe and he is a stickler for detail and historical accuracy. However I will pass your comments on to him so he can answer as to his reference. I will post later. You can also visit dynamicdioramas for more of his work.
This one is by far the best Custer Last Stand diorama I've ever seen, you can see the effort, time and dedication of the author, is very detailed and a real pleasure to the eye. I am not criticizing this outstanding job, just the only thing I would do to make this diorama 100% accurate is to remove the figures of the Pawnee warriors fighting along side by side with the Sioux and Cheyennes. Pawnee were natural enemies of the Sioux back in the old days. The Pawnee warriors are those with part shaved heads (hair Mohican style) but I guess the author used these figures to add (for everybody to see) more realism regarding indian overwhelming superiority over the soldiers because the Sioux figures available on the market on this scale are limited. Thanks for sharing this awesome diorama, I can watch it again and again and never get tired of it.
Lose the clouds, the big boulders, the neon bright paint on Indians and horses and the unrealistic high hills in the background and it is great work. By the time the Indians rushed last stand hill most troopers were wounded, down or almost dead. Numerous accounts of battle participants document this fact.
Those hills look just like ones I saw when I was there.
Build and paint your own diorama….
That was so cool😉
Well done! Felt I was there.
When you know you’re going down you take as many with you as you can.
You all should try the Custer Apollo vids of the battle.
My 9 year old inner self highly approves.
The Hilltop battle where Custer made his last stand was fought out in the open. Custer had as few as 200 men overwhelmed by as many as 3000 Indians within an hour. Although I know Joseph researches his subjects thoroughly it is nonetheless an artistic vision rather than purporting to be an actual representation of the event.
Agreed that it is an artistic vision. I did want to mention that in my opinion, the entire battle was out in the open. Custer Ridge is entirely visible in a 360 range. Go stand anywhere on the battlefield & you're a good target. Also, it has been noted that Custer may have only had the men he had led down to the river, which was only 40-50 men. These men would have made up the bulk of the Last Stand. They were joined by stragglers & survivors of the rout of the rest of Custer's command to the east. This meant Custer may have had only 70-80 men w/him at the end. Estimates vary widely as to the size of the village & the number of warriors. My POV is that at most there were 1500 warriors. That's still a lot, especially if you're the one standing out in the open. During subsequent investigations by the army, many witnesses mentioned numbers in the thousands. It has been argued that these men were mistaken in their estimates from suffering from what we might call today PTSD. Additionally, some psychologists have determined that a traumatic event is likely to be remembered in exaggerated tones by some people, thus resulting in something like saying there were 4000 warriors out there. It also serves as a buffer from criticism. I know everyone would love definitive info re: this battle; but we have to make the best of being amateur detectives.
I bet a lot of time and effort went into this diorama very nice . Theres alot of remarks about what was wrong sad on thier part ,
Excellent job very impressed, I would like to know where you came up with the music I like it quite a bit
Thanks , I composed and performed the music .
Great job!
Incredible art work, shows how fierce the Native Americans were in battle. Custer was an arrogant jerk and deserved to be defeated in a horrific battle. Too bad some of the brave soldiers went out with him, they should have just stepped aside and pointed. I wonder if we'll ever know who took his scalp and where it is.
Custer wasn’t scalped for some reason his body was left intact .
@@tonywallbank6511 that's interesting, an assumptive error on my part, those Tribes we're sure fired up, but maybe wiping out the whole outfit was victory enough for them, and maybe these tribes did not practice that. I'm not a great fan of that era as you can see.. thanks for the correction. I've heard estimates that the battle went on anywhere from 1- 3 hours. Those soldiers must have had a lot of ammunition.
He was 1 of 2 soldiers that kept their scalps all the rest had been mutilated after the battle,I believe that was done by the squaws not the warriors they believed if the body was cut and disabled they would pass into the afterlife like that and couldn’t function as a warrior.
@@tonywallbank6511 Tony, makes since, as there were lots of woman n chdren killed , the women would want some pay back. Plus the warriors were probably looking out for more troops and looking for high ground to ambush. You've got my intetest cooking , I may have to check this out in more detail . Thanks.
@@c123bthunderpig I realised a long time ago that the story I had been told at school wasn’t true and after reading bury my heart at wounded knee by Dee Brown and other books that the Native Americans had been badly wronged by us white men in our greed for gold and land..I can’t imagine how those soldiers felt on that hill that day it must have been terrifying but effectively there was no last stand,the native Americans always told the truth about the battle it’s just no one listened.
Warriors are all shown in battle paint. As fast as the battle occurred they would not have had time to put their battle paint on.
Actually Custer cut his hair short and was not scalped
He was stripped and his ear drums punctured by sqaws, his brother tom was very mutilated
@@joedyer5486 you mean scalped? Or even more? How was he found?
Si può avere un catalogo con prezzi ?? Grazie.
While this is by far the most famous battle between European stock combatants versus indigenous people in North America, I would love to see a diorama of the lesser known, though perhaps the bloodiest known "Indian Battle" in North America that took place on 18 October 1540, between about 500 Spanish Conquistadors under Hernando De Soto, and over 3,000 Muskogee warriors of Chief Tuscaloosa at the walled town of Mabila in what is now central Alabama. Though the natives feigned friendship, they treacherously drew the Spanish into their town filled with hidden warriors with the intent of killing them, but due to their superior armor, weapons, horses and fierce war dogs, the Spanish ended up slaughtering over 2500 Indians to their loss of about 200 men.
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I believe that the scenes shown here are actually a good representation of that actual battle. Very good.
I was there for 4 hours a little over a week ago. There are NO big rocks anywhere near the last stand hill side. They shot their horse Yes. Large rocks NO. And the Indians did NOT look like gym queens.
@@63bplumb yes no rocks and there was tons of rain that year and it snowed in june and the grass would've been light green and darker .Garryowen
@@patrickroy3380 In my reading there was tall sage brush that has since been burned off. The landscape would have been completely different Other than rocks and trees which there are NON! The Indians were able to crawl up the hill after killing 25-30 that were down the ravine where they showered arrows down over the crest of the ravine. Also I've seen what they had for weapons at the Crazy Horse center at the Crazy Horse Monument. They had iron arrow heads that were traded to them for furs. And let me tell you! They looked BRUTAL!!!
@@63bplumb Yes the Indians had 2 different types of arrows heads ones for hunting which they could reuse and another for warfare with another edge so if you tried to remove it , it would rip everything in its path , nasty . From my studies at the start of the battle the Indians had 60% bow an arrow , 30 single shot and 10% repeater and with that horrible terrain to fight Indians bow and arrow did much of the damage. Garryowen
The lust for gold drew many prospectors to try their luck
The army was employed to protect
Them resulting in the three pronged
Attack by terry gibbon and Custer
However Custer couldnt wait and wanted all the glory!
Very cool, but the boulders make it resemble the Fetterman Fight.
Yeah, there's no boulders on last stand hill
@@uncleleo7637 There's barely any dirt. Notice the indentations on the ground at Reno Point. You can hardly notice them as they're only about 3-4 inches high. There's very thin soil in this location; &, additionally, the men did not carry shovels w/them which only made any attempt at breastworks that much more difficult.
British suffered greater defeat at
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yeah.. you're right!... but had a real last stand at Roke's Drift.. and won...
@Roy Bevan 20,000 Zulus maybe 1200 to 1500British and local troops but a one shot rifle and being out flanked and no proper fortifications of the camp did not help
Вот пример ответственности командира за сотни солдат! Всех положил и сам с ними!Гениально...
Wundervoll.
Like WOW! Really good job! However I am one of the believers, that Custer was the first one shot. Therefore, leader killed end of the Mission. New Mission; Tactical Withdrawal, with leaders body.
If Custer was shot near the river, early on ( Ford D ), I just don't know how they would get him away from there, hundred of yard, to last stand hill.
The two men closest to him pulled him out of the river put him back on his horse. Then the Soldiers rode to Last Stand Hill. Nothing to it. Custer only had two gun shot wounds. His girlfriend kept the other squaws from mutilating him, too bad. One gunshot wound was to his chest. I believe that he got that at the Ford. The second was to his face or head. That one is when Chief Gall shot him. Custer was either near death.or dead when Chief Gall shot him. The wound from the Ford may have been incapacitating but, not fatal. I believe he may have been alive when he was brought to Last Stand Hill. The battle there lasted 15 minutes or less. Thus, he may have been alive sort of when Gall shot him. T.
John King If Custer was shot at the river and basically mortally wounded why was Keogh next in charge not with Cooke on Last stand hill ? Nice try and Garryowen
@@johnking1463FACT once again this is easily debunked as Custers wounds were mortal and if he was shot at the river why wasn't Capt Keogh with Cooke on Last stand hill , how can anyone who claims to know anything about CLS even entertain the thought, Garryowen sorry if I was tough on you as maybe your new to the discussion but that doesn't excuse false information.
Patrick Roy #33. Have you read the Battle at Greasy Grass? It's based on Indian testimony. After all, they were in possession of the Battle Field at the end of the day. Thier account should mean something. Read it if you haven't already than get back to me in that. Fulmen Jacio!
They should have brought up the tank…it might have helped.
Hi there looks fantastic! Can I ask what figures you use here and the scale thanks
MultiSpunkymunky The scale is 1/32 (about 54mm). I think the figures are made by Black Hawk miniatures. They're really well made and finely detailed.
@@Sayven1 the figures are from many different companies, BH , King and Country, Britain's, Tssd and paragon. Garryowen
why do all the native americans look like the have been working out at the local gym?
They look that way from the government hand outs
@@patrickroy3380 That's rather harsh, even in jest.
@@richstex4736 Yes wrong group the Indians weren't ebt fed Garryowen
Political correctness
I’m truly glad that the Indians won that battle they was just protecting what was there😎
No. The battle happened on Crow territory. The Lakota were trespassing. Crow scouts led Custer to the Lakota camp.
It didn’t take 2000 Indians to defeat Custer. There just happened to be 2000+ Indians there. Probably shortened the time by half.
More accurate looking than 90 percent of the lame movies about "Custer's Last Stand"..
Yea my buddy Joe is extremely detailed in his work. It was always a pleasure to put music to his works. He’d photograph his projects as if it were a movie. Very inspiring.
Wow!
Shouldn't the grass be green?....the battle was in June , after all.
In late June, southeastern Montana is generally pretty hot and dry. Much of the vegetation away from the river or creek bottoms is browning off, the wind[and it seems like its always windy]wicks away the moisture. A single horseman can raise a dust plume that can be seen a mile away.
@@davidmurray5399FACT: not that spring lol it snowed in June and lots of rain , the timber Reno hid in wouldn't burn it was so wet when the savages tried to burn him out and LSH was still pretty greenish that fateful day. Also remember Custer couldnt find a way across the fords as the ground was like quicksand from all the precipitation. Benteen also confirmed that as only the peaceful NA farmers knew the areas that were cross able, Garryowen
@@patrickroy3380 The account by Lt. Weir describing what he viewed from the promontory that now bears his name, indicates the it was difficult to discern what was happening along the Greasy Grass/Battle Ridge area, due to the dust and presumably the smoke from gunfire. Weir could see people walking and riding indistinctly in the haze, sometimes firing into the ground[or so it appeared], what was happening or had happened was impossible for him to tell.
@@davidmurray5399 and your point is ? They were obviously killing soldiers , so please what's your point I'm currently reading my 902,903,904 and 905 book on Custer and his last stand, Garryowen
@@patrickroy3380 My point is, having walked and ridden over most of the battle area[in late June and early August], I am familiar with the conditions that prevail there. The higher up you go from the river bottom the ground conditions get drier. The wind is a constant, which also accelerates the evaporation of moisture. Others beside Lt. Weir who were present at the battle and survived to relate their experience, mention the dust that made observation difficult.
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Better horsemen!
I don't think the indians had time for elaborate face paint art. They were in a rush.
and the grass was green. but who cares? it is an awesome representation
yeah.. there are few things it got wrong.... The battle started in the morning, and the "Indians" wouldn't have had time to paint their faces .... Crazy Horse never had a gun or killed anybody in the battle, but rode in front to lead the warriors into battle like a General ... War paint on the horses could of happened as these were marks of ownership ... but you are right about the face-paint
@@monoloco99 you obviously know little about the Indian culture or their guerilla warfare tactics. They weren't like soldiers they answered to nobody , they could enter or leave at battle at anytime. They could also not even participate if they chose. To reput your no face paint statement surely at a battle like The Washita but they had plenty of time at CLS and the numbers to assemble. Just some water and powders and done . Warriors had strong spiritual rituals and superstitions they would NEVER abandon , think of it like entering a battle without a weapon as they were naked without it . Yes that year the grass was green and the Fords were like quicksand Christ they had snow in June. Garryowen
@@monoloco99 I even fact checked it for you on the peaceful NA farmers side Kate bighead said in her recounts old men helped the others apply their warpaint granted she was 80 when she was interviewed, Garryowen .
When Custer got what he deserved. 👀
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Ken Jones heres a quarter buy a clue , Only the Boy General showed up to fight that day so try reading a book or a thousand
like myself or others on CLS. Garryowen
If the Indians had been standing/attacking like that Custer would have won.
Custer's companies only had so much ammo.
@@waqqas800 Custer's battalion had sufficient ammunition. Three things doomed his men; the terrain, poor of communications, and the lack of affirmative/bold action from the Reno/Benteen battalions. One might also include Crooks' tentative, confused fiasco on the Rosebud and the subsequent retreat. "Custer's Luck" couldn't overcome all that....
@@richardschaefer4807 My opinion is that poor field leadership, overconfidence, & inexperienced troopers were the main causes of the rout. None of the other arguments would matter if Custer had followed good, tactical protocol. He divided his command not once but several times during the course of this campaign while in enemy territory & w/out knowing the exact location of the enemy or his strength. This was due to Custer's supreme self-confidence. He was known to brag that the Seventh Cavalry could bring the Sioux to bay all by itself. Third, this wasn't Seal Team Six out on the battlefield. Custer liked to brag that the Seventh Cavalry was the best outfit in the army. The reality is that they were not any more accomplished than any other unit. They just had better marketing. Sort of like the Dallas Cowboys, LOL. At this time, almost 25% of Custer's force was brand new. Many had never fired a weapon in their lives. They were not given extensive training. This lack of professionalism helped to rob the command of any sort of composure in an extremely stressful situation. There were reports from Indians of soldiers not fighting back but focused instead on trying to get away. In those situations, the Indians said it was just like hunting buffalo. Poor command decisions, hubris, & a rattled detachment; that's what doomed these men.
@@richstex4736 No commanding officer, no matter how skilled and competent, can be expected to win a battle when 70% of his command, within the sound of the gun fire, stay out of the battle after being ordered to "Come Quick". Reno was utterly terrified and drunk. A few days before, Crook had retreated with a much larger force, after sustaining light casualties and did not try and make contact with the other two commands. We also need to consider that the best officers went with Custer. I am certain that if Keogh or Tom Custer had been in Reno's place the day would have turned out very differently. You might even say that, "military protocol" destroyed Custer's command. Finally, the open terrain was Custer's worst enemy, and the fact that there were just too many Indians.
You might say the battle was, "A real "Custer Fluck".
@@richardschaefer4807 When you say "within the sound of gunfire" remember that about 3-4 miles separated Reno & Custer & it was full of Indian warriors. Remember, also, that Capt. Weir did attempt a sortie but was turned back because there were too many Indians. Also, Benteen was even further away when he received Custer's message. It didn't help that the messenger was an Italian immigrant whose mastery of English was sorely deficient so that he could not accurately describe Custer's situation. All Benteen could summarize was that Custer was handling things well. I won't debate Reno's state of mind during this battle. It is likely that he had partaken of whiskey around this time as he had a well-known problem w/the bottle. It is also seems evident that he did panic, which caused his command to plunge into chaos. Re: military protocol; Reno was second in command on the battlefield. Custer assigned an important duty to Reno to carry out that day. Keogh had his own company to command. Tom Custer seemed to always be near G. Custer, so an independent detachment seemed unlikely. As for Crook, all I can say is that he did what he thought prudent. Had Custer acted as Crook did, the campaign likely would have turned out more favorably for him. RE: the open terrain; yes, nobody wants to be caught out in the open against a highly mobile adversary. However Reno & Benteen held out while being pinned in the same terrain because they maintained their force intact, did not underestimate the enemy, & had better command structure. Some people say that Reno & Benteen betrayed Custer & left him to his fate. It is so easy for us to say what action could & should have been taken. However, we weren't in their position w/enemy combatants everywhere; & a reasonable person might have done just as Reno & Benteen did, which was to construct some sort of defensive perimeter. Last-minute cavalry rescues make for good theater, but the odds that day were against that happening. Again, everyone has a take on this battle. It is a mystery for the ages.
It funny on how immigrants and others say "Indian" or "American Indians" and yet they are incorrect about both terms 🙄.
If you don't know the tribe name, whereas the native people have been living on the land before the immigrants changed the name twice from Amerigo and then to America.
And the American government broke its treaty and now every immigrants are calling them "American Indians"...
No treaty, no land, just the government is squatting on native lands.
That's noice
Toll
wow wow wow
Классно сделано 👍👍👍 !!!
Indians- 1, Custer - 0.
Warriors kick ass! ⛺️ 🐴
Intersting depiction of the Native Americans. Looks like they just completed a power work out at Gold's Gym. Not accurate at all. Also the clothing, war paint depictions is totally off as well. The only thing that is accurate is the repeater rifles they carried.
They must be the Lakotaroids tribe led by Crazy Hormone.
We are a healthy people..not disease ridden, slop-eating, drinkers & smokers..
We bathe daily & cleaned our teeth..so yeah, it's accurate.
@@PeterPeli Meant absolutely no disprespect to Native Americans. I was just commenting on the art. Sorry you took it the wrong way. No human being looks like that.
Custer had it coming to him. He thought he was invincible. During the civil war the rebs shot 9 horses out from under him.
That was "Custer's Luck".
@@drayb5566 Forrest fought for the wrong side
god bless the sioux-nation
De perlas
7th cavalry Garry Owen hoohaa
Republicans are going to cancel this,, it makes them feel bad.
A very dark time in native American history when their lands were robbed their people genocide with the same attitude as the nazis had for jews. I hope in time they can forgive but not forget.
Custer had it coming...he died for your sins. Wado from the Cherokee Nation!
Play Garryowen for me. Once more. Pvt James P Kelley, 7th cal
@Guitar Nerd2021 -none of that happened
they should tear down that monument to custer and instead put up one for the first people nation warriors to tried to save their land and people from genocide.
And put up a monument to the Lakota? The Lakota invaded the territory of all of the neighboring tribes and stole their land. They burned their villages and tortured, mutilated and killed everybody including the women and children. The Crow hated the Lakota and Crow scouts led Custer to the Lakota camp on the Little Bighorn which was on Crow territory.
So it took over 2,000 natives to beat 265 US Cavalry .Not much of a victory .
it was a major victory for the Sioux, as they lost fewer men... Custer made every mistake you could make in battle, the Sioux out smarted him... it was the biggest defeat in battle for the Americans since the Civil War....
A loss is a loss ... and this was psychologically shattering. Arrogance and under estimating the enemy got a lot of men killed.
It was a strategic defeat for the Indians
Don't bring pussies to a manfight.
Custer's boys came into the wrong neighborhood.