The Push and Pull Things are quite simple! If you push the Buttons on the MCP you'll give the Aircraft the Control, if you pull you'll take the Control from the Aircraft.
@@flightdeck2sim could you consider in the future to stream a shared cockpit session with V1-Simulations? He's a RW 320 pilot. First leg in the NG, second leg in the A320. Wow that would be better than the Super Bowl!
Nicely done Captain! Really impressive for your first no tutorial flight. If you'll need any tips for the future airbus flights, feel free to contact me. I am a bus driver in real life ;)
Hi Captain. I realy enjoyed this video in particular. I am only a sim pilot, but I have realised that you have to make your choice regarding your type of aircraft system. I chose Airbus, because I forget stuff if I try to remember more than one type!. Please keep making the great vids. They are very informative , and a good laugh. Cheers my friend.
@@flightdeck2sim If you really want to experience the ultimate dash8, i believe you'd have to go back to FSX/P3D, since nothing is of the quality of the Majestic Q400, it's really good and feels totally different compared to the mainstream jets.
As a Boeing-only simmer, I am struggling with what you are struggling. So it is a joy to watch even the setup progress is slow. But that speed suits me too.
Awesome video! That's just an small example of how I feel when watching your videos! Where is this, what does this do, how do I use it! Great fun to watch though.
Push Yoke Back, tress get smaller! Push Yoke Forward, trees get bigger! Banter aside, that is something I wish I knew prior to the stream! Thanks for the titbit!! FD2S
@TheFsxChannel201 Bit harsh yes, it's more about the look of it really, the cockpit looks bit FS9. It seems more advanced with regards to some systems though.
I asked a few people which one was the one to use and the majority seemed to point toward the Toliss! I cannot tell you if it's any good though compared to FF or the real thing! FD2S
I know with the flightfactor a320 the wind request gave 0s for the upper level winds too. Likely something with how Active Sky interfaces. Just got used to copying over from active sky's briefing.
Thanks Prasanth Tadiparthy but I wouldn’t go as far as saying that! I just turned it on, pressed some buttons and turned it off, the true Airbus way! FD2S
For airbus A32s Ops i recomend/Suggests to see the Blackbox711 chanel. all well explained some on FSX-FSLabs and X-Plane but with the same methodology of airbus sop
You need to start watching Blackbox711 channel since he is a real Airbus captain and has a lot of airbus tutorials and other videos to learn from. Nice try though!
I feel like the answer to whether Boeing / Airbus pilots can fly the other's equipment is always a qualified answer. They are pilots of jets already, after all, and have mastered key concepts of powered flight. So the answer depends on the exact question. Can you plop a Boeing captain in an Airbus (or vice versa) and expect them to be able to correctly operate the plane with no time to study? No, you can't; not completely at least. If you give them a couple of hours to read up about some things, then can they fly the competition competently? Yes, absolutely, and they shouldn't have any problem at least for normal, uneventful flying conditions. If you let a pilot read just a bit about key systems first, I think the 80/20 rule totally applies here. My reference: Learning to fly both Boeing and Airbus in simulator. No, I'm not a real pilot, but I think it counts for something that the simulators attempt to model all the main systems as accurately as possible. It should give me a sense of what to expect at least.
A good analysis Ryan, I would've struggled considerably more had I not completed the tutorial flight, if a technical problem was to arise I would've struggled too, that is what a Type Rating is for! As you pointed out, what was transferable was the seat of the pants handling, both are twin engine jet aircraft and when I did hand fly the A319 (if you can call it that!) it felt similar-ish FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim - I just wanted to say, thank you for the kind words! I always appreciate my pilots, and I'm lucky when I get to interact with them and with UA-cam content creators. I'm glad I was on point, this is a good topic for discussion and one I had kept musing about too. These were the thoughts that bubbled to the surface over time, trying it myself as well. I think we are very nearly at the answer. :) Cheers sir, enjoying your channel, and very glad that you are both on UA-cam and in the skies!
Also, don't know if you've been having a similar experience, but the first time I tried an Airbus (FF A320) in X-Plane 11, I felt like it was really, really, reaallly difficult (particularly the cold and dark startup and getting used to the MCDU)... but then after my 2nd flight when I actually landed the thing, suddenly not only did the Airbus not seem so bad, Boeing was way easier too!! And that was because something about the differential, between how the two families operate, highlighted for me how some key systems work. Suddenly I understood everything about electrical / packs / APU / pressure / engine ignition and also QNH and trim. So I think playing around with not only different types but different manufacturers can be really enlightening.
Agreed though the 737 is a relic with quite the 60s design still in the MAX. Fly-by-wire needs different perspective to flying by cables. Of course otherwise they are designed to meet much the same jobs in the same environments under the same rules, so not too different after all.
Having flown the NG for 8 years there are many things which are similar but also quite different. The level of automation in the A319 compared to the NG is very different. I feel like you can never really "fly" the Bus, you disconnect everything in the NG it''s now a big MEP. FD2S
If you ever decide to fly it again, you can turn off ADR2 (air data reference), ADR3 and select gear down to force it into direct law. It will fly pretty much like piper seminole. It's fun. As a bonus, you can turn off all three ADRs and see what happens. :) Enjoy.
Hi there! Although it is efficient to fly high there comes a point at which low speed buffet (stall) and high speed buffet (approaching critical mach number) coincide. This is called coffin corner. The lighter you are the higher you can go. The aircraft empty could get higher but the aircraft must not climb higher than the maximum operating altitude which is set by the aircraft manufacturer. If you were to go a couple of feet higher it would make no difference. FD2S
Hey thanks for the great videos. Question, I'm new to the world of pc sims etc. Are the failures realistic enough to help prepare for our 6 month sim checks? ie can you set minor glitches throughout the flight and the relevant lights and system behave mostly like the real aircraft?
Hi Bobby! Many addon aircraft have a robust failure implementation system which would be useful to some degree. The ZIBO MOD for example doesn't have full failure capability just yet but most of the lights/system function are working correctly and it works fine for testing many elements of recurrency training. What you must remember that all desktop simulator addons are to supplement your training, not to replace and you have to be aware that it might not exactly show you what would happen in the Level D/Real aircraft FD2S
The FMC (or FMCDU as we should call it) is not really so different to Boeing, you seemed to get the hang of it fairly quickly. If you really want a weird one, try the Dash8, that's from a different planet!
Yes some elements are similar but also some significant differences! I could get myself around but some information was not decipherable, simply because I didn't know what it meant. Having used the NG FMC for almost a decade I'm hard wired into using just that! FD2S
Hi Colin, not exactly sure. You'd have to do pretty much a full type rating or some reduced type rating course 250 hours is a little excessive! At my operator we run a Transition Type Rating designed for pilots who flew another type. Excluding the ground school/theoretical side they have the same amount of full flight sessions but the fixed base sim sessions is slightly reduced, it's about 50 hours of sim time. FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Thanks, yeah I studied up more on the Airbus, having attempted to fly the Zibo 737 to Seattle, but I had no patience to program the entire FMC so I didn't quite make it. Made it most of the way, then had a cabin pressure warning. But I didn't realize how different the Airbus is. Right, so the LNAV/VNAV is all built-in as long as you're running the plane in full automation mode (AP controls IN). Very nice indeed. I'm having better luck with my little Eclipse 550, easy to fly, easy to program the GPS etc., and easy to set up departures and arrivals. That's after XPlane was crashing for 3 weeks, no idea why, I think I fixed it though. Some wonky plugins or bad scenery giving errors which can crash the whole thing.
Trolling!? After flying the 737NG for 10 years do you think I'd just be able to jump into an Airbus sim and just fly it off the bat!? This was me at my most vulnerable! FD2S
Many people are in their mid-20's when they become a Captain at many operators, you typically need a minimum of 3000 hours on type. I'm in my late twenties and have flown the NG for 8 years. I have over 4000 hours on type and over 1000 hours as an instructor in the Full-Motion Level D sim, instructing in some cases people twice my age! FD2S
The Push and Pull Things are quite simple!
If you push the Buttons on the MCP you'll give the Aircraft the Control, if you pull you'll take the Control from the Aircraft.
Alright, time for a true challenge...fly the Felis Tu-154!!!!
ermahgerdddddddd :->
FD2S
You and V1-Simulations are the best that have happened to X-Plane
Luis Cabas probably in a few years you’ll have every aircraft covered by someone who flies that actual tin can! Thanks for watching! FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim could you consider in the future to stream a shared cockpit session with V1-Simulations? He's a RW 320 pilot. First leg in the NG, second leg in the A320. Wow that would be better than the Super Bowl!
Don't forget Blackbox711!
Nicely done Captain! Really impressive for your first no tutorial flight. If you'll need any tips for the future airbus flights, feel free to contact me. I am a bus driver in real life ;)
Hi Captain. I realy enjoyed this video in particular. I am only a sim pilot, but I have realised that you have to make your choice regarding your type of aircraft system. I chose Airbus, because I forget stuff if I try to remember more than one type!. Please keep making the great vids. They are very informative , and a good laugh. Cheers my friend.
Thanks a lot Colin! Yes flying both types in reality would be quite a challenge!
FD2S
The diagonal stand to the left of you at EGNX / EMA / East Midlands is where the TUI 787 stands
You don’t have to disconnect the autro-thrust on final. Nice vídeo by the way....
Not recommended by Airbus but some airlines have it in their SOP to disconnect AT on full manual approach e.g. Lufthansa
I did it the Boeing way!!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim 🙄...😄
I challenge you to do the Dash-8. Even if you crash it would be considered as usual operating of that plane.
Crash 8!!!!! Might look into that!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim If you really want to experience the ultimate dash8, i believe you'd have to go back to FSX/P3D, since nothing is of the quality of the Majestic Q400, it's really good and feels totally different compared to the mainstream jets.
Now you have an idea of how us newbies trying to fly any of these feel like. Totally lost actually. You still have an advantage over someone like me.
As a Boeing-only simmer, I am struggling with what you are struggling. So it is a joy to watch even the setup progress is slow. But that speed suits me too.
Some of my experience was transferable to the Airbus but apart from that, I had to read the manual like everyone else!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Congrats on your 30k subs!
Hilarious. Nice to see you just as helpless as I feel in the zibo :)
Whats this? Where is that? I know what this is, but how do I use it?!?
Ahh, I think you did this just to get yourself ready in case you have to move to the 'other' major shorthaul operator - that uses Airbuses!
Hey FD2SIM! Awesome video as always!
Awesome video! That's just an small example of how I feel when watching your videos! Where is this, what does this do, how do I use it! Great fun to watch though.
Thanks you Darren. Still not sure how I even managed to get this box of tricks from A to B! 😂
FD2S
Pull it to take control 🙂
Push it to give control 🙃
Push Yoke Back, tress get smaller!
Push Yoke Forward, trees get bigger!
Banter aside, that is something I wish I knew prior to the stream! Thanks for the titbit!!
FD2S
I’m qualified to fly 737 and A320....... on Xplane. And I’m fairly competent on A330/A350/747 and 777
Thomas Mortimore I have my A320 Series XP11 Type Rating now too #expert #blessed
I like you tried a different air craft. Cheers.
Toliss looks a bit Mickey Mouse compared to FF 320U :)
Yeah was thinking the same thing
Stealing that for describing P3D from now on!
@TheFsxChannel201 Bit harsh yes, it's more about the look of it really, the cockpit looks bit FS9. It seems more advanced with regards to some systems though.
I asked a few people which one was the one to use and the majority seemed to point toward the Toliss! I cannot tell you if it's any good though compared to FF or the real thing!
FD2S
Don’t know what you mean by custom radar but Wx radar does work. Other knobs than 1 off 2 don’t do anything though. FF767 those knobs seem to work.
I know with the flightfactor a320 the wind request gave 0s for the upper level winds too. Likely something with how Active Sky interfaces. Just got used to copying over from active sky's briefing.
Ah ok! Not sure how the entry works on the Airbus FMC anyway!
FD2S
Airbus philosophy: pull the nobs=me control and plane follows my input in FCU, and push=airplane controls according planed in MCDU.
Thanks Christian!
FD2S
You have learned the Airbus so fast :) well done.
Thanks Prasanth Tadiparthy but I wouldn’t go as far as saying that! I just turned it on, pressed some buttons and turned it off, the true Airbus way! FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim 😂 ok lol
For airbus A32s Ops i recomend/Suggests to see the
Blackbox711 chanel. all well explained some on FSX-FSLabs and X-Plane but with the same methodology of airbus sop
Thank you for the reply. All very interesting. Regards.
Really entertaining stream. Loved it!
Thanks a lot stratshadow! Still rocking the intro!!!!!
FD2S
You need to start watching Blackbox711 channel since he is a real Airbus captain and has a lot of airbus tutorials and other videos to learn from. Nice try though!
From now on you will be always trying to push that v/s knob in your 737
Thankfully you cannot push or pull it, just twiddle!
FD2S
can you do a video when you show your home cockpit pleas ?
YUck the A319 is nasty after flying the beloved Zibo 737...looks like I will stay with her for some time yet.
I feel like the answer to whether Boeing / Airbus pilots can fly the other's equipment is always a qualified answer. They are pilots of jets already, after all, and have mastered key concepts of powered flight. So the answer depends on the exact question.
Can you plop a Boeing captain in an Airbus (or vice versa) and expect them to be able to correctly operate the plane with no time to study? No, you can't; not completely at least. If you give them a couple of hours to read up about some things, then can they fly the competition competently? Yes, absolutely, and they shouldn't have any problem at least for normal, uneventful flying conditions. If you let a pilot read just a bit about key systems first, I think the 80/20 rule totally applies here.
My reference: Learning to fly both Boeing and Airbus in simulator. No, I'm not a real pilot, but I think it counts for something that the simulators attempt to model all the main systems as accurately as possible. It should give me a sense of what to expect at least.
A good analysis Ryan,
I would've struggled considerably more had I not completed the tutorial flight, if a technical problem was to arise I would've struggled too, that is what a Type Rating is for!
As you pointed out, what was transferable was the seat of the pants handling, both are twin engine jet aircraft and when I did hand fly the A319 (if you can call it that!) it felt similar-ish
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim - I just wanted to say, thank you for the kind words! I always appreciate my pilots, and I'm lucky when I get to interact with them and with UA-cam content creators. I'm glad I was on point, this is a good topic for discussion and one I had kept musing about too. These were the thoughts that bubbled to the surface over time, trying it myself as well. I think we are very nearly at the answer. :) Cheers sir, enjoying your channel, and very glad that you are both on UA-cam and in the skies!
Also, don't know if you've been having a similar experience, but the first time I tried an Airbus (FF A320) in X-Plane 11, I felt like it was really, really, reaallly difficult (particularly the cold and dark startup and getting used to the MCDU)... but then after my 2nd flight when I actually landed the thing, suddenly not only did the Airbus not seem so bad, Boeing was way easier too!! And that was because something about the differential, between how the two families operate, highlighted for me how some key systems work. Suddenly I understood everything about electrical / packs / APU / pressure / engine ignition and also QNH and trim. So I think playing around with not only different types but different manufacturers can be really enlightening.
Hi captain, love your streams, any chance i could see you fly a 747-400? thanks Dave
Hi David B, not sure if there is a Study Level version of the 747 for XP11, will look into it!
FD2S
Hi!
Where did you got the Scenery for Toulouse ?
Thanks!
Honestly, it's not that different. Modern aircraft are similar. User interface is different, but common sense prevails.
Agreed though the 737 is a relic with quite the 60s design still in the MAX. Fly-by-wire needs different perspective to flying by cables. Of course otherwise they are designed to meet much the same jobs in the same environments under the same rules, so not too different after all.
Having flown the NG for 8 years there are many things which are similar but also quite different. The level of automation in the A319 compared to the NG is very different. I feel like you can never really "fly" the Bus, you disconnect everything in the NG it''s now a big MEP.
FD2S
If you ever decide to fly it again, you can turn off ADR2 (air data reference), ADR3 and select gear down to force it into direct law. It will fly pretty much like piper seminole. It's fun. As a bonus, you can turn off all three ADRs and see what happens. :) Enjoy.
This is game. No 1s and 0s were harmed in the making of this video.
Could you please show us how to perform an approach and landing at LFKJ rwy 20?
whats the highest altitude you have ever flown at?
PunyA PunyA FL410 - 738 Service ceiling
@@Fabi_Hansi92 that's the one!
FD2S
Hi there!
Although it is efficient to fly high there comes a point at which low speed buffet (stall) and high speed buffet (approaching critical mach number) coincide. This is called coffin corner.
The lighter you are the higher you can go. The aircraft empty could get higher but the aircraft must not climb higher than the maximum operating altitude which is set by the aircraft manufacturer.
If you were to go a couple of feet higher it would make no difference.
FD2S
Whats the level of realism comparitive to PMDG 737 NGX?!
Hey thanks for the great videos. Question, I'm new to the world of pc sims etc. Are the failures realistic enough to help prepare for our 6 month sim checks? ie can you set minor glitches throughout the flight and the relevant lights and system behave mostly like the real aircraft?
Hi Bobby!
Many addon aircraft have a robust failure implementation system which would be useful to some degree. The ZIBO MOD for example doesn't have full failure capability just yet but most of the lights/system function are working correctly and it works fine for testing many elements of recurrency training.
What you must remember that all desktop simulator addons are to supplement your training, not to replace and you have to be aware that it might not exactly show you what would happen in the Level D/Real aircraft
FD2S
The FMC (or FMCDU as we should call it) is not really so different to Boeing, you seemed to get the hang of it fairly quickly. If you really want a weird one, try the Dash8, that's from a different planet!
Yes some elements are similar but also some significant differences! I could get myself around but some information was not decipherable, simply because I didn't know what it meant. Having used the NG FMC for almost a decade I'm hard wired into using just that!
FD2S
It's like changing Samsung to Apple😂
Dhia Benchahed no opposite
How to enter the wind value correctly, if it is variable?
Nikita Mur if variable I wouldn’t enter any wind! FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim for example: variable 240-310 10 knots, 0/0 it will be ok?
@@radeon29 thats still something, I'd personally either put the average direction , or leave out that altitude/location
awesome job dude!
Thanks a lot!
FD2S
Hey, is that steam edition or official site?
No speed window, sad!
Thanks for the reply. Just out of interest, about how long would it take for a qualified B737 pilot to convert to the A320 please?.
Colin Hunt 250 hours of type rating i’d think, that’s dependant on how often you can get in the sim
Hi Colin, not exactly sure. You'd have to do pretty much a full type rating or some reduced type rating course
250 hours is a little excessive! At my operator we run a Transition Type Rating designed for pilots who flew another type. Excluding the ground school/theoretical side they have the same amount of full flight sessions but the fixed base sim sessions is slightly reduced, it's about 50 hours of sim time.
FD2S
thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it igor!
FD2S
Do you like toulouse?
- Puts "3000+" in FMS
- "I'm an airbus pilot"
Are there no LNAV/VNAV buttons on the Airbus' AP?
Affirm! The whole concept is very different to Boeing! FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Thanks, yeah I studied up more on the Airbus, having attempted to fly the Zibo 737 to Seattle, but I had no patience to program the entire
FMC so I didn't quite make it. Made it most of the way, then had a cabin pressure warning. But I didn't realize how different the Airbus is. Right, so the LNAV/VNAV
is all built-in as long as you're running the plane in full automation mode (AP controls IN). Very nice indeed. I'm having better luck with my little Eclipse 550,
easy to fly, easy to program the GPS etc., and easy to set up departures and arrivals. That's after XPlane was crashing for 3 weeks, no idea why,
I think I fixed it though. Some wonky plugins or bad scenery giving errors which can crash the whole thing.
no offence this stream acc triggered me, glad you got down in the end
Thank you gorgeous :D
:-||
FD2S
Are you just trolling us or are you really unfamiliar with the Airbus?
Trolling!? After flying the 737NG for 10 years do you think I'd just be able to jump into an Airbus sim and just fly it off the bat!?
This was me at my most vulnerable!
FD2S
flightdeck2sim lol i was just making sure. You seemed to have way too fun. 😁
👍
whats your emial?
flightdeck2simisthebestpilotintheworldperiodanddoesnteverfloat.com
is xp11 at 11.34 or 11.35
This was 11.35
FD2S
Hi Sir
Hello there!
How do I join the discord?
Hi Gingy,
Discord is exclusive to members only.
FD2S
Your only 31 and you've already made captain?
Many people are in their mid-20's when they become a Captain at many operators, you typically need a minimum of 3000 hours on type.
I'm in my late twenties and have flown the NG for 8 years. I have over 4000 hours on type and over 1000 hours as an instructor in the Full-Motion Level D sim, instructing in some cases people twice my age!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Youngest Captain in India is just 22. I don't why.
Buy FF A320😜 Toliss looks like toy 🧸 compared to FF
Toliss has better system and performance integration. Looks a bit sheap but don't judge a book by it's cover. Also it is certified by Airbus