Is The Russo-American Alliance Inevitable?
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- The United States and Russia have developed a reputation as bitter rivals ever since the Cold War, and this has helped shape the West vs East dynamic of the US and European Union on one side, with Russia and China on the other. But these geopolitical alliances may soon change, and despite the historic rivalry between America and Russia, the two might actually prove to be each other's most valuable ally in the not too distant future. Is the Russo-American Alliance Inevitable? Might Russian hostility toward the EU, and provocations of war over Ukraine or the Baltics be too much to compromise? Will we see the beginning of a new Cold War? Or will we see World War 3?
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Oh I think we're all going to have to band together against a common enemy very soon. Reading through the comments, it's SO ODD how many people repeat a phrase others use.
Are you all puppets? Bots? Six people repeated the "aged like milk" thing....pathetic.
Hey, I’m glad someone else sees it too. This happens all the time.
What does this mean exactly? This vid did age quite poorly, it was released 2 months before the full invasion of Ukraine and Russo-American relations are at their lowest since the Cold War.
Russia, China and Iran have grown closer since
@@SodaPrezsingbut have they? On the outside they may look like the best of pals, but in the inside it’s a different story. Don’t believe everything at first glance, especially with China. I can assure you that Chinese and Russian relations are more strained than it seems, especially with China trying to insert its influence in northern Asia.
@SodaPrezsing This can flip "on a dime".
These talks are happening and this scenario will be attempted formally within the next two decades.
@@dbois356 If Russia has started to use Yuan, I very much doubt they’re strained
Never forget how powerful "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is. France and Britain became allies after nearly a millennium of rivalry because of the threat posed by a united Germany.
And now we go to war over fishsticks and boat fugees. We have devolved.
Friendship with UK cancelled- GERMANY is my best friend nö!
Except that Russia currently is our enemy...And working with China...
@@gigaus0 it's not though
@@user-wx4nv8xr3d few days ago Xi supported Putin in his demands in Europe
Russo American alliance to the world
Russia:"Prepare for trouble"
U.S.:"and make it double!"
🤣
Canada is gonna be the meowth of this alliance if it happens mark my words
@@Swerzy- Germany would be more fitting
The only thing that will be blasting off again will be china though
This will lead to backstabs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but historically speaking Russia and the USA had been on very good terms before the Soviet Union came along.
As an American I do hope we eventually become allies maybe even friends with Russia. I understand we have our own differences politically but in the long term a Russo-American alliance makes more sense than being at odds with them.
Maybe union?
Not now. Russian is still a social backwater. Maybe if they liberalize in the next few decades.
@@jeromevaleska7629 How about communist country with many democratic republics, in those republics they vote for government and state government. At those votes they also vote for changes for their state. And president decide in which states to build factories
@@jeromevaleska7629 Russians tend to associate liberalism with the chaos of the 90s. Let them govern themselves their way and focus on finding common ground. That would be the best way for there to be a US-Russia alliance.
@@jeromevaleska7629 Meh. I really don’t think that we should be trying to change their culture to a more liberal one. I don’t care what goes on within Russia’s borders. That’s up to the Russian people. Not me. I’m open to an alliance and/or cooperation even if Russia doesn’t liberalize socially.
I would normally never think of a American Russian alliance but now it seems feasible
It's been feasible since our civil war some 160 years ago.
Convincing Russia that China is the enemy will be difficult though because Putin is best friends with Xi and despises Western Liberal Democracy where Progressivism is allowed exist. A way to turn Russia to our side would be for Russia to see that it wouldn’t be in the drivers seat of a Russo-Sino Alliance which Moscow wouldn’t like.
Mabye if putan dies
@@sakuranippon4434 Yes. i'm sure Putin sees that so long as China is on the rise and looks to expand its influence unchecked, any dream of Russia regaining regional control over central Asia is doomed.
The rest of the world knows about the power an Americ-russo alliance would have so theyve been making us fight ever since
This video ia now *alternate* history
Since when has it been true since this is using post 2014 borders?
I could see this happening if the EU becomes a more centralised organisation with more military self-sufficiency, but i doubt that will happen nearly as easily as some may suggest. The Russo-American would in all likelihood be a largely unwritten agreement that they maintain quietly to keep each other from butting heads too much, not to form a new bloc of aligned nations.
I agree, the likelihood of a European state is very slim on account of there being strong national boundaries between country’s/eu members
Plus many in the eu have already challenged/hated the bloc, particularly Poland Hungary and Greece in the last few years
The debate about an European military has been quiet long now and i absolutely don‘t see it happening. I don‘t see how a german would accept orders of an italian leader and the other way around
not sure if u mean cultural border when you talk about borders within the EU
At the moment the high up in the EU and the incoming German leadership (and France) is talking about a more integrated sovereign EU
while there may be problems and it's by no means a given at least this is a prevailing thought now and the EU has been quite happily paddling the idea it can throw its weight around as one
@@notmeantforyoubruv3999 that’s always been the main boundary between unification of states that have never been United
Who would be the leader? Sure unity through being allies sounds better than division based on nationality, but when push comes to shove nobody can agree on who should be leader (good examples are each time the Arab world tried to unite, nobody wanted to give up power)
The only times countries have United are 100% on the fact that they had the same leader (think Scotland and England) or alternatively one has been invaded and annexed by a more dominant neighbour
Why do you think Russia would ally with the USA just because, before this happens they will demand NATO to be disbanded and all U.S. Bases near Russia to be closed, you think USA will do this? 😂
Russia and US: *are about to go to war over the ukraine*
Z: "Ok but, what if..."
It's just Ukraine, there is no "the"
@@cdressel53191 The use of "the Ukraine", is officially deprecated by the Ukrainian government and many English language media publications.
@@cdressel53191 did you really waste your time to correct a spelling mistake on a comment in a UA-cam video?
Funny enough last week on the news it included that Putin was going to come back with a proposal sometime this week
In some way Russia benefits from NATO because it keeps Germany down
@@vinniechan germany has not been a threat to the russians since ww2.
Yes we should be allies, we are both Christian nations 🇷🇺🇺🇲
The United States is being less Christian with each new Supreme Court ruling.
Russia's comparably less religious country despite the rhetoric
@@nathanhiggers4606 Russia is more Christian but actually equally religious to the US, because the US's state religion is the alphabet cult.
As a New Zealander this would be good. This alliance would put China on a multiple front war. Russia to the north, India to the south and USA, Japan, south korea, Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand to the east. Hopefully all those fronts would keep New Zealand safe ☺️
it's all about keeping the kiwis safe!
Force all nations to sign a pact to not hurt New Zealand and the kiwis
That would mean Russia will retake old soviet land i.e. Ukraine, Baltics that's not good...
@@Pigraider268 it would really have been Russian empire land, rather than Soviet Union land. Putin just needs to become the Tsar.
New Zealand doesn't exist. It's a fairytale.
The International Space Station is a prime example showing the the United States and Russian Federation can work together if they set their differences aside. Both sides have the potential to benefit greatly but I personally think it's unlikely to happen in the current geopolitical environment.
None of it matters unless Russia brings up fertility rates. If they don't, they are over, perminantly.
The international space station was a ploy to keep Russian rocket scientists employed , that rogue nations like North Korea, don't try to get them to make weapons for them
@@jcstang8952 birth rates will never drop to zero, populations rise and fall, anthropologists are already recognizing that the more religious proclivity towards reproduction among the Abrahamic religions means by 2080 60% of the world will be either Muslim or Christian, throw in the other religions and you're hitting about 64% of the world's population with a projected population on the planet being about 12 billion people by that time. So, the liberal world and this includes the authoritarian giant that is the CCP will basically relegate itself to irrelevance because they have either one child ("progressives" socialists, and communists in the current day) or no children.
Hard to maintain power and control when there are less people supporting it, not to mention the more teacher unions in the United States keep pushing the more families will elect to home school their kids meaning the rot is healed faster (culturally speaking). The days that people are currently pushing for right now with these lockdowns and mandates are numbered so there is no reason to be concerned in that regard, we just have to muddle through the next decade.
Democrats need a international boogeyman and have labeled Russia that bogeyman for many years now.
@@Rob8729 sounds just like Republicans and China.
OK, I’ll watch this video with an open mind but, considering recent events, I don’t think this aged very well.
Sadly yes it didn't 😔
2 years later yeah...
Before watching: as long as the U.S Presidents align with NATO and the EU, it’s virtually impossible unless Russia gets a pro-west President
Republicans hate nato and the eu, theyve been advocating for a russian alliance for ever, and seeing how unpopular joe biden is they will definitely win big in the mid terms and 2024 presidential elections, i think it is very probable
@@STEP107 at this point I dont see another Democrat in the presidential seat for a good min but the last thing I want to see is an old Rhino Republican taking that seat that wont do a damn thing once they get in. But if we do get warmer with russia it would but more so a soft power on china to back off they alrdy know a war with the USA is shaky at best but also with Russia especially if the USA starts giving russia prefer economic deals....
The US should have actually tried to do more to genuinely help Russia transition during the 90s instead of just sending over some officials from the Bill Clinton administration to essentially just say, "Hey, we don't think things are working." Yeltsin made mistakes, but he was given a monumental task that he and almost anyone else in his position would have been willfully unprepared for. Putin would have failed about just the same. Putin's "recovery" or at least stabilizing of the economy just so happened to coincide with rising oil prices after they had been down during the 90s, not any genius or truly decisive decisions on his part. Putin never rained in the oligarchs that were and still are infested in nearly every part of the Russian government that prevents industry and Market competition within the economy of Russia. Putin himself is a part of it and benefits from it directly. He would better be described as a mediator of stability between the true forces of power within the government and Country, or even as a soft puppet of sorts.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 It's the best, when they do nothing. It's your fault that you have these problems with china right now. It was for our interest, not to help china get out from the disaster they created for their own kind, and what you got in return? As we can see... Do the same with russia, and same thing will happen, they are both unreliable.
@@STEP107 Maybe a huge segment of the republican BASE... but the GOP itself... aka the gop establishment is VERY VERY pro nato & EU.
As a Russian, I think, this alliance will profit both of us greatly. It will probably terrify all world, because that kind of a power will be unstoppable, but the profits from something like that...
All of space could basically become Russian/American territory and no one could do anything about it. Once asteroid mining gets up and running there would be no chance of anyone doing anything about it ever again.
As an American terrifying the world into submission through our ungodly strength is a good thing. Let them fear our unholy alliance my brother! We shall take all that is due us form all who oppose us!
Its only possible if America Respects Russia sphere of influence, meaning NATO leaves Ukraine, the Baltics and the caucuses.
Back in the 2016 I was saying that long term a Russian and American alliance made the most sense because such would contain the EU and China. Russia is friendly with China now, sure, but that's a super power right on their door step. Long term, how comfortable can Russia be with that? At least when the US was a rival it was in another hemisphere and not right on Russia's border. The same deal with Europe. It seems to me that geography is what is most important when it comes to alliances rather than ideology.
It seemed to me then and seems to me now that the EU has an interest in pushing Russia back to reduce their dependence on its natural resources and China can easily swallow up the eastern side of Russia through sheer demographic growth. As I see it, that's a recipe for war, especially if when push comes to shove nobody is suicidal enough to "push the button".
Of-course, as I said elsewhere in this comment section the US has severe demographic and social problem that threaten the survival of the country and greatly diminish its effectiveness as a world power. Russia doesn't have the same social issues, that I am aware of, but it has demographic problems. I'm not sure either country is poised to dominate this century even if they could ally together.
@@bjorntheviking6039 >Russia
>Space
Are you blinded by 50 year old achievements? Wake up! Russia didn't have *ANY* successful major space missions in 30 years. And no, shuttling astronauts to ISS isn't a space mission, it's working as a taxi driver using car your dad left you.
Some things age like wine. This video aged like milk.
The need for a Russian American alliance remains the same. We need them defeat China, with them and China United, we will never win. Europe is useless against China and they need their own foreign policy. We would be unstoppable and rule the world forever. Hopefully Trump can help when he’s relected.
China is distancing itself from Russia and North Korea. They see them as troublesome liabilities. Plus, Russia still holds land that once belonged to the Qing Empire. China does actually want that back win the future.
1. No they aren’t you fool.
2. No they don’t, China wants to kill America too.
3&4. No and that would be like Russia wanting Alaska back; no one wants that you fool.
Yeah, people don't understand that in the Russian mythos USA is the greatest enemy of Russia.
Since they believe that Russia is bound to control Europe, Africa and Asia.
Meaning they are a threat to the power struggles of USA.
They can't imagine a world that isn't made up of imperial powers fighting each other.
For Russia to become friends with USA Russia needs to stop being fascist and embrace the western ideology of coexistence.
If USA moved towards Russia ideologically then the conflict would just get worse.
@@90skidcultist not going to happen easily since that Land includes Vladivostok
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@@siyacer *PRECISELY*
@@MonsieurDean lets not yell
If a Russo-American alliance happens, then there is a very good chance that we will also see an Sino-EU alliance.
@@RemberReach That's kind of already in the works with how the CCP has been courting mediterranean countries and the european political class.
The US should have actually tried to do more to genuinely help Russia transition during the 90s instead of just sending over some officials from the Bill Clinton administration to essentially just say, "Hey, we don't think things are working." Yeltsin made mistakes, but he was given a monumental task that he and almost anyone else in his position would have been willfully unprepared for. Putin would have failed about just the same. Putin's "recovery" or at least stabilizing of the economy just so happened to coincide with rising oil prices after they had been down during the 90s, not any genius or truly decisive decisions on his part. Putin never rained in the oligarchs that were and still are infested in nearly every part of the Russian government that prevents industry and Market competition within the economy of Russia. Putin himself is a part of it and benefits from it directly. He would better be described as a mediator of stability between the true forces of power within the government and Country, or even as a soft puppet of sorts.
This would be the greatest geopolitical relationship that America could ever hope to foster
Do you think it’ll be greater than The US/UK Homiesexual marriage
@@MW-dd8vk probably, probably not lol
@@MW-dd8vk tbh UK would join this as well. They don’t have much interest in the EU clearly and due them being an island it makes that much easier. Anglo American ties are also some of the strongest on the planet
Keep that Russian propaganda In your mouth. Russia brings nothing to the table for America.
@@Sakattack2023 Russia could be of help in an eventual conflict with China, especially considering that China has sought to displace Russia as a hegemonic power in Central Asia and that China could claim parts of external Manchuria in the future
After what's going down now, the answer is...
*NO.*
They could happen... unfortunately, the allies they both have don't like one or the other (Russia or the U.S.). If they were to work together it would be a interesting and potentially great thing in the long run.
I disagree.
Only Eastern European’s hate Russia because without other countries help (mainly the US) Russia would invade there homelands tomorrow.
If the Western countries and Russia became friendly then Russia would have no need to invade Eastern Europe, and so Eastern Europe wouldn’t hate them.
Western/Central European countries are on alright terms with Russia apart from the U.K., but that’s only due to the US.
And the China-Russia relationship isn’t really strong at all, the only reason there even allies at the moment is due to them both being scared of the US.
Anyway, unless Russia becomes a democracy a relationship with the west will never happen, and the US would never risk it’s relationship with the Anglo-sphere or EU over Russia.
@@joshbentley2307 so I belive you misunderstood my post.
Russia and the U.S. are mainly not friends do to Russias allies not liking the U.S. and the U.S. allies not liking Russia. If they both didn't have that situation then I don't see why the U.S. and Russia wouldn't be allies.
@@joshbentley2307 Not to mention they both have alliances with India of which doesn't like China right now and if a war breaks out, I'm not 100% sure if Russia will back China or stay natural. If they do fight China it may bring the U.S. and Russia together. I believe it's possible if it's under the right conditions.
Lol the brits would still be in the equation they always like to put a shank on a Russian - American alliance. Balance of power and all that.
@@joshbentley2307 “Western/Central European countries are on alright terms with Russia apart from the U.K., but that’s only due to the US.”
I don’t know if you mean that Western/Central European relations with Russia is down the the US, or the British frostiness with them, however the latter I have to disagree with. Anglo-Russian relations are entirely the fault of the Russians, often encroaching on our air spaces and trying to assassinate people in our own country (see 2018 Salisbury poisonings).
Culturally and religiously Russia and the USA are a lot more alike than China is with either of them
Not at all. China and Russia are both digusted by your LGBT flags and obsession with the nuclear family in lieu of extended family and clan. They perceive that stuff to be uniquely and imperialistically American in nature.
Source: An American living in Vladivostok married to a Manchu.
@@Silvashoots We are disgusted by the flags too in America. And I think having a strong extended family/clan is a good thing. But we need the core of that, the nuclear family, to be healthy, and it isn't right now. That is why we are obsessed with it. Families, both nuclear and extended, build nations and keep them healthy.
Also, as an American, I like Russia quite a bit and would love to visit (I actually have Russian blood in me). How are the Russian women in general? Are they feminine, submissive, and not man-hating, or are they in a bad spot like American women? I like Eastern European girls, but I hear conflicting reports.
@@CaesarGB “we are disgusted by the the flags too in America” may be your opinion but you are overwhelmingly in the minority. Same-sex marriage has a 70% approval rating
@@Silvashoots but besides that, modern russian culture are very much alike to modern american culture. Plus most of the people in Russia consider themselves Europeans and not asians, even the ones living near the Pacific. So I would say, that Russians and Americans are much more closer than Russians and Chinese.
@@johnathancreque8303 99% of people are okay with gay people living their lives and marrying who they want. It's when being gay is your only character, and you want to shove it down everyone's throat 24/7 is when people become frustrated with it.
This didn’t age well
No kidding. But honestly a Russo-American Alliance would still be very beneficial for most of the same reasons. And as long as cards were played correctly it could actually fix a lot of the Ukraine problems.
Ukraine would also join the alliance (giving it protection from the USA) providing the buffer Russia want's from the EU. You bring in a few other countries (Japan, Great Britain, maybe some others) and you walk away with Russia saying "we now have Ukraine and the US will help pay for our reconstruction from war." While America, Ukraine and such can say "we drove the Russian's out of Ukraine and have minimized the Chinese threat.
Depends on how powerful China ends up being
"Enemy of my enemy..."
Ding ding ding!
Don't be too worried about china. Their economy is mostly collapsed tenfold compared to US.
Anyone with a map could tell you that Russia and China are natural rivals and enemies. If for any reason one of them no longer sees the US as a threat, their friendly relations will be consigned to the dustbin of history
China is likely to be in Check, if not Check-mate, in twenty years. The problem is then that they’re likely not willing to go quietly into that dark night, and like how Russia has tried to expand itself the last few years just to renew itself, China is likely to do the same. And America has several close allies in the immediate area.
I think an American-Russian alliance might be a bit of a stretch at least in the medium term. I do think something like the arrangement between Britain and Russia had at the end of the 19th century could be possible. Russia and the US could agree to stay out of each others spheres of influence and agree to some limited corporation. Whatever happens NATO's days are numbered.
Does Russia deserve having a uncontested sphere of influence?
They are only like the 11th largest economy on the planet.
They have very little in the way of global cultural output.
They're pretty much a upper middle rank power.
What countries are we sacrificing to allow for this Russian sphere of influence?
And do they get any say on if they want to be part of such a sphere?
It's totally a stretch. Russia is just China's Canada. If you cut it down by population ratio it still works out. Canada/USA ratio 38/329 Russia/China ratio 144/1402 China 4x the size of USA. Russia is 4x the size of Canada. Russia is just China's Canada. Who knows thought, but to me, it looks like China and Russia have something to learn from Canada/USA dynamic.
@@MarkVrem you have n idea what you're talking about. Specially with that Russia being 4 times bigger than canada thing
@@9_9876 close enough. And the same as 80% of Canadians live in that Toronto Montreal strip. Most Russians live in the western area parts. They are both resource-rich. It's just a bigger Canada. As far as the rest of Europe they come across as latin america compared to Russia and China
Why are NATO days numbered? Why would US ever resign from NATO?
This aged like fine milk
Because of the incompetence of bush, obama, and biden, trump at least tried to have good talks with russia
Aged like already off date milk
@@williamwest9204you forgot putin and yeltsin.
Loser
no@@hibikiverney4146
I’ve always thought that Russia’s alignment with the Americans could end up similar to that of Saudi Arabia’s alignment to the US
I think it makes more sense than Saudi Arabia. While Russia is more Traditional than America, I doubt Russia is as extreme the Saudis.
@@crusader2112 especially because the Saudis are monarchy in basically everything
The Saudis are slowly improving culturally. Also, Saudi Arabia is way more of an important and strategic Ally then Russia could be. Right now Russia is a decrepit joke. If the US is going to get into an alliance with Russia it better not be an "equal partnership" because Russia will just try to take advantage of that while they're still getting slowly pushed aside by China.
@@amhumanperson3592 like Russia
@@Aeg0r yes but no because Russia doesn't have heir to the throne and is more of a dictatorship
If a Russo-American alliance happens, then there is a very good chance that we will also see an Sino-EU alliance.
@@someguy3766 Europe already fought US in world war though. Without any nukes or anything.
@@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC What even is your logic?! Are Europe and Africa countries to you?
@@scorpixel1866 And when I say Europe, I mean the portions of Europe between France and Poland /s
@@someguy3766 Especially for Eastern European countries I think a US-Russia alliance is that said drastic thing that would happen that would drive them towards China. I think the larger Western European countries may be fine with this arrangement (especially if Russia becomes a liberal democracy similar to themselves after Putin's rule is over), but Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic States etc are geopolitical obstacles to Russia, so I would be hard-pressed to believe that Russia and Ukraine could be in the same alliance even if their current issues are solved.
@@someguy3766 it certainly won’t happen under Putin, that’s for sure. But what if after his rule is over a Navalny-esque figure takes over? Provided the right people are in charge post-Putin, by 2100 or as early as 2050 we might see two main factions:
- US, Russia, Western Europe, and anti-China Asian countries such as Japan
- China, Eastern Europe, Africa, pro-China Asian countries such as Cambodia and North Korea (although I doubt they’d be able to survive until 2050)
Hits different when it pops up on your recommended now 😶
I've imagined such a thing in fiction writing ideas before. And just because of the sheer scale of the combined military might, had such an alliance effectively referred to as "The Final Alliance"
Wouldn't be called the final alliance. The Final Alliance would be a last stand type thing. More likely would be called the Century Alliance or something.
The unholy alliance
@@kosmicking5166the ultimate
@@williamwest9204 ultimate is just another word for final 🤓🤓🤓🤓
I've always imagined and hoped something like this could occur. We disagree with Russia on many, many things, but an alliance is much more in our favor than against, I feel. The Western and Eastern continental hegemons should remain as such, and protect their own spheres of influence with help from eachother. The potential of Russia's undeveloped land is immense, and with a US financial base backed by Russia's industrial capacity, both nations could rebuild their prior, stronger economic states and easily dominant their respective spheres. Not to mention the obvious military applications of these two nations cooperating.
Why Russia deserves a sphere of influence?
@@Poctyk They've always had one. That itself isn't the excuse, but it's a simple fact. If you respect, in any way, America's Manifest Destiny, then you must also in some way respect Russia's ambition to unite their historical lands.
Russiand does not need anyone’s financial base. You realize they are one of the few nations that have no external debt and actually have gold/silver reserves that could back their currency (if the would chose to do so).
@@xmaniac99 Doesn't *need*, is the key part, here. In the same way, I don't *need* fries with my burger, but I sure would like some, because it let's me enjoy the meal more. Fair enough, yeah?
Russia will NEVER accept this until the USA is willing to concede eastern Europe to Russias spere of influence.. And do you think this is a real possibility when they can't even let Ukraine (a non Nato and EU member) fall into the Russian sphere????
this aged well
Same guy thought Rhodesia was pretty cool so his opinions are pretty much trash. I'm just here to laugh, he can have the engagement, he's a racist turd.
@@BiggestCorvid fax bro
the problem is that Russia will always be the junior partner. be it China, the US or India. Russia just doesn't have the population, economy or allies to be a real player on the global stage anymore.
That's not a problem, it's a feature. Ultimately any hegemon in the eastern hemisphere is both A) not in America's interests and B) given the national, ethnic, and religious diversity of the Afro-Eurasian landmass cannot be maintained without some degree of suppression. A balance of power in the Eastern Hemisphere is far more preferable for all of humanity.
all 3 of those problems are maximized because of distrust and sanctions, if we became best friends and lifted sanctions, the economy would take off, and then people could afford to have children and feel comfortable having more children especially if they can offer a more luxurious higher standard of living. with friendly relations, comes lifting of sanctions, and with a booming economy, a booming population would follow.
150 million people is massive number 2 Russia is the largest nation in the world and has the second best military it won’t always be a junior partner
@@gabenewell3955 for that size of a country that small population even the usa which is smaller have 300 million people
@@nihiqallam5616 300 million is still small compared to how big the USA is it really puts things in perspective on how large these countries are
I mean Nixons rapprochement with China was considered unthinkable before it happened so who the hell knows
And look how that turned out.
@@supertrap1045 rapprochement wasn’t the problem, not switching to a geopolitical strategy focusing on crushing Communist China immediately after the collapse of the USSR was.
Next one, “ is the sino-American Union inevitable?”
That will not happen this Century. The chances are better for a Russo-American alliance occurring despite Ukraine.
If politicians got over their differences/hatred for each then a Sino-American alliance could be very possible and could create a lot of economic growth and stability for the world but this would be impossible given politicians.
@@coatofarms4439 China is flying in the face of American values. Unless the CCP is removed from power or the USA destroys the pretention of freedom it has, the two cannot ally with one another in a close manner.
As an American I've been advocating for a Russian alliance for years because Europe just doesn't have the will or fight in it to do anything about China, and in some cases is willing to bend to Chinese political demands in order to get access to the Chinese economy. The way I see it, Russia surely has to understand that if the USA loses the modern version of the "great game" against China, Russia is up next on the chopping block. Russia is one of the only major powers that actually puts a good amount into their defense spending and has a modernized military that could actually deter Chinese aggression and hinder their influence in central Asia. That said, China would sure love to have Vladivostok back, probably along with access to the rich resource deposits of Siberia. Not to mention that Russia was one of the main powers that contributed the Chinese century of humiliation, which even today pisses the Chinese off to no end. They WILL want revenge for that. Pragmatically, a strong, resurgent, stable Russia is better for us than a China with unopposed dominion across the world.
The only serious problems I could see are those between our allies (Israel vs. Syria/Iran, Russian influence in Ukraine and the Baltic states, etc.) but those are hardly important theaters in comparison. That's especially so in the case of Ukraine, because all our political involvement in Ukraine does is antagonize Russia for no tangible benefit. They aren't in the EU or NATO (And both NATO and the US refuse to commit to their membership one way or another because that would mean having a spine), they aren't a major trade partner for us, and they aren't in our hemisphere, so why should we care? If anyone here was serious about helping Ukraine, we would have done something about Crimea back in 2014 and actually taken some kind of stance on the issue besides grandstanding about international law, but instead we just implemented some half-assed sanctions to, again, just antagonize Russia for no greater purpose except to use them as a political talking point. All the back and forth complaining about Russia in American discourse is just bluster that nobody is ever going to back up. At this point, it's better to just officially recognize Crimea as Russian as a sign of good will and get to work on actually stopping China from dominating us both.
I don't know if America and Russia can ever become friends instead of allies of convenience, but I sure hope so, because nobody else makes for a better rival
China has no interest in Vladistok lol
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China has recently complained about Blagoveschensk near Heihe, being rightfully Chinese
@@joaobaptista320 They do actually and its pretty ridiculous
@@gustavoritter7321 belong to China since 1864?
@@marseldagistani1989 What?
The Russo-Chinese relationship is an interesting one full of nuance.
Russia has a hard power advantage primarily due to its extensive combat experience, long standing diplomatic ties and strategic expertise, and status as a prolific weapons exporter. Russia has a myriad of growing defense agreements in the developing world, especially Africa. Russia suffers from a very weak economy outside of its hydrocarbon market, but benefits from owning the world's largest reserve of fossil fuels.
China has more economic power as a large export based economy and extensive economic influence in the developing world by way of the BRI. The PLA is inexperienced and China is a new diplomatic player in most of the world outside Asia, and therefore has weak relationships and does not understand geopolitical nuance too well. China's non-economic soft power is still relatively weak despite growing media influence, as "People's Republic of China" still remains a dirty word in most wealthy countries.
I also don't think the EU is as unified as it seems and the largest economies in the bloc are still more interested in maintaining their edge over others rather than pursuing the common good. I would consider European solidarity to be a farce, honestly. I also see a lot of NATO countries not living up to their commitments if something like a limited Russian attack on the Baltics occurs, because they will privilege their own economic interests (i.e. Russian gas) over defending an area they aren't very interested in, and many still want to free-ride off of US defense. I would counter your argument by stating that the US and the UK are probably more interested in defending Eastern Europe than the rest of Europe is. Countries like the Baltics and Poland tend to be the most pro-US and pro-NATO, and the US has a marked interest in maintaining that influence while Germany and France benefit from unrestricted trade with Russia.
Russia and China do have an alliance of convenience but I'm sure each is fully aware of what's really going on. China wants to rebuild the world order as the leading power, and Russia mostly just wants to stay relevant and have its own sphere of influence without liberalizing. It does seem like Chinese interest in fossil fuels and rare Earth minerals will drive increased competition in Central Asia and perhaps even Siberia, which would drive Russia and Europe closer together to counter China.
The main reasons why Russia and the US remain at each other's throats in encroaching Western influence in the former USSR and Russia's rejection of US led liberal world order, and the US would have to lose or give up a significant amount of influence to have any converging interests with Russia. Conveniently, the US still talks up human rights while cozying up to far worse regimes than Russia, so that wouldn't need to change. Competition with China is the most likely to drive any of the other factions closer together in the long term.
Yeah I think the us and russia might cooperate on a few and I Mean a FEW projects concerning undermining chinas influence in Central asia-a place generally under Russian influence but that's it. In fact russia might take advantage of a crisis in Taiwan to invade Ukraine, something against US interests. Also you are definitely right about the EU. Germany is a big example of a country that clearly doesn't benefit from Russian expansionism but too interested in short term economic gains of cheap gas and oil rather than millitary spending or containing Russian ambitions
Greetings from Russia. Good analysis here.
I'd like to add my thoughts on this too.
Russia is being economically, demographically and (in recent years) even militarily (excluding nukes) out-shined by China. It is especially true for the Far East regions of Russia where Russian population numbers 8 mil. vs. 200mil. Chinese. This is why Russians are quite terrified of China's promises to annex Taiwan. Because when they'd be done with reuniting Chinese lands then Siberia seems to be the next logical step (which is debatable).
Also in the case if future "Taiwan crisis" would result in a full scale war with US&allies then Russia is really screwed. Because:
A) If Russia picks the Chinese side:
- and China lose = they're, of course, screwed.
- and China wins = they'd would end with even more powerful China = and thus screwed too.
B) If Russia picks US side:
- they would instantly get a land front in their Eastern "soft underbelly" with no allies except (at best) a tiny Mongolia while the rest of US-allies would be comfortably protected with large bodies of water & mountains. This basically means that Russia would once again forced to carry their team on the back as in WW2 but this time being horrifically outnumbered.
C) If Russia tries to stay neutral:
- they are risking to get in a surprise attack "1941 style" since both sides are interested in dragging Russia in conflict on their side because of her strategical position.
The main problem with Sino-Russian alliance is that they have to many conflicting interests and virtually no mutual (except to piss off US allies in Asia and Europe respectively)
@@mastersafari5349 American here, I can see that. Personally got no grievances with y'all, always say Putin as not a nice guy, but one interested in making Russia stronger. I can respect that without agreeing to the methods.
One thing Douglas leaves out about China is that their diplomacy is very... "do what we say or else". You can see it in reference to Covid easiest, where they have gone after the Italian and Australian governments to muzzle journalists for reporting Chinese involvement in the Wuhan lab, and delayed Chinese response which helped spread the disease. But in general, if someone in smaller countries talk badly about China, their goto is to pressure that government to crack down on the person or else China will pull the plug on exports. When Japan said they would back Taiwan if China invades, China's response was they would finish what we started and would nuke Japan repeatedly. You're worried about your southern border, the Japanese believe that Okinawa would be the next target (China has stated that its their territory), which is why the Japs are willing to stand with Taiwan. Vietnam, the Philippines, India, Australia, they all have no love for China and plenty of reason to fear/hate them. Hope it doesn't come to war, but if it does I hope we don't have to fight you guys. People who try to invade Russia tend to have a bad time
@@magmat0585 Yes, there are few countries who would confront China if conflict arises. But my point is that for them it will be primarily naval war (Except for Vietnam, but they too have some degree of protection with difficult terrain).
For Russia situation is different. You guys don't have 2500 mile of poorly developed lightly populated land that directly borders China's industrial heartland.
Russia's leadership maybe corrupt and inefficient but they aren't fools. They are aware that they have to move very carefully not to provoke any conflict in East Asia/Pacific region and that for now they should act as if they're China's "side chick".
With situation in which Russia currently is there is simply no good moves left. The only threat we still can pose to China is our nuclear weapons. But it isn't much and honestly, I'd be surprised if Russia would still own Eastern Siberia by the end of the century.
The EU is an American client state, anyone who thinks otherwise is just eating up political fantasy.
As an American I hope so
@offroadguy7772not true. Politically Europe is more left because there is an extreme stigma against right wing politics due to nazis and stuff. Its unfortunate but not really much can be done about it.
On the other hand. Saying Europe is communist and gay is ridiculous. Currently, most of Europe have center right, or right wing parties in place. It is also estimated that Europe is far more homophobic and FAR FAR more racist. Yall in America dont even compare to the amount of discrimination thst goes down here. For example, ask any native european about the romani, and youll get a response that the führer himself would have been proud of. As for homophobia, most southern European nations dont have gay marriage legalized. As for communism (lmao what.) Northern Europe is BRUTALLY capitalistic. It might not seem that way due to free healthcare and social benefits. But those are only there because the competition is immense.
So wheter you like it or not, America is the one pushing the agenda forward. Not Europe. Comparitvely, were talking KKK (Casual racists, homophobes) and the fucking nazis (Competitive racists and homophobes or Europe.)
You dont even come close lol
Terrifying, interesting, but terrifying
*CORRECT*
I’ve always been fascinated with and loved the idea of an alliance/federation/merger between Russia and the United States. It would foster unprecedented global cooperation, development of science, economic growth, and open up tremendous funding for business and the arts.
it's very unlikely, the idea of the EU becoming a federation and either annexing or merging with Russia makes way more sense than a merger with the USA and Russia, the two have nothing in common, don't share a border, language is different, history is different, economies aren't that tied to one another, political system is different, while that's also true for the most part with the EU, at least they share more of a history, Russia is a slavic language, economies are much more tied together, political systems while different are closer than the US system, they share borders with eachother.
in short the Russia-US merger is as likely as Brazil merging with China.
Russia would not accept this unless they get Eastern Europe for free
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 I disagree, America is far more powerful then the EU and borders Russia nearly as close. Europe and Russia are clearly at a tipping point for war while the US in the far east with Russia is uninhabited and unarmed. I'll let reality and history point where the wars always occur.
The USA is becoming too conservative and Russia is just falling apart, China in contrast is the only one investing in everything from technology to economics
I love the idea of that, but russia is too illiberal for the US. The day russia repairs its democracy and not have illiberal shitheads like putin(no but seriously though russia LEGALIZED domestic abuse and cracks down on gay rights)
Me laughing at the fact that this will never happen
Yes, America went a bit too far with the coup in ukraine in 2014. Otherwise we may already be focusing united on the Chinese threat. But oh well.
@@kirill6850 I'm pretty sure America had little to no involvement in that factor but if they did then ig it's a good thing since it made Ukraine happier until the wars.
@@TheSavitarGamingYT yes coup-d'etats are a good thing now. Wtf
@@ephraimboateng5239 they're better than a full blow world war
@@kirill6850 There is absolutely zero evidence that suggests America committed a coup in Ukraine. There is plenty of evidence however that russia is a nation of bloodthirsty, warmongering, despicable, psychopaths.
>US & Russia form a military and economic alliance
China: _We might have a problem here_
Why, exactly, would Russia not be just as much of a junior partner to the US as it is threatened to be to China?
The thought of consolidating the two largest nuclear arsenals into fewer hands is almost as terrifying as the Cold War but much more insidious in its consequences.
Pretty narrow thinking. It would make the use of nuclear weapons much less likely in the future.
@@Finraen idk, one nuclear power means not MAD. No nuclear recourse. Means we can threaten to nuke without doing so. And if anyone would choose to call our bluff they'd see how far we've fallen.
This is why I was okay with the USSR stealing the bomb. If us was a sole nuclear power throughout the 50s and 60s we would have definitely seen nuclear arms used in Korea, during the Berlin airlift, and or Vietnam. One nation can't have the power of gods and he expected to remain untouched by the corrupting power of unlimited power.
So yeah, your thinking comes off narrow if anything
@@NoNoseProduction First of all, it would not be "one nuclear power". The original comment mentioned "consolidating the two largest nuclear arsenals", which doesn't mean they would actually be one and the same. Even allies remain sovereign nations with control over their militaries. There are also a number of other countries armed with the ability to carry out nuclear strikes, even if the destruction they could threaten isn't fully commensurate to that of a combined US/Russia arsenal. You'd have to be crazy to think that something like "we'll do more damage to them than they'll do to us, so let's go for it!" would be enough justification for applying nuclear power in an aggravated armed conflict. MAD isn't binary - it doesn't have to be *total* destruction of both sides for there to be a deterrent present. Any application of the technology would be seen as unfavorable unless there was no alternative.
Secondly, you're splitting hairs and/or indulging the hypotheticals out into the realm of pure fiction. Since the advent of the atomic bomb the greatest risk of nuclear war has come from tensions between a US-led NATO and the USSR/Russia. Easing or removing those tensions would certainly reduce the risk of global-scale nuclear war. My statement was attempting to point out that calling such an outcome "insidious in its consequences" is based on making presumptions about dynamics that may or may not be in-place if a Russo-American alliance were to form. What opposition that isn't also nuclear-capable would a Russo-American alliance find cause to use nuclear weapons against and also be afraid of enough to actually do so?
The more likely outcome of a Russo-American alliance would be the acceleration of nuclear non-proliferation efforts between Russia and the US, and that would hopefully have a domino effect around the globe.
@@Finraen I know you're intentionally being thick. But NATO is a single power because of their articles. So any alliance similar to NATO with all the nuclear powers would be a single nuclear power. That is also what consolidation means. You don't consolidate two into two. You consolidate x into y. Where y=less than x
@@Finraen edit: nuclear war implies two nuclear powers. No one is implying two nuclear powers nuking each other. What is being suggested is that sole nuclear power dominating the non-nuclear powers. MAD is what kept peace. Without the threat of MAD you allow the Jeanie to leave the bottle where you feel fit.
Sure, the only threat of a nuclear war came between the US and the USSR, but how that being relevant when both powers would be in a union of sorts is beyond me.
The us history pre-ussr getting the bomb is very clear. They were absolutely willing to use the bomb like a conventional weapon. Now some of this is purely because of their lack of research, but this doesn't discount put forward plans by military leaders of winning wars by nuking counties. Curtis lemay proposing pre-emptively nuking Russia or general macarthur requesting nuclear weapons in Korea...it's fairly possible that without MAD china would have been nuked if they so stupidly decided to go to war with a sole nuclear power. Vietnam again...we used agent orange, napalm, ect. With no nuclear threat we would have absolutely used tactical nukes.
Neutron bombs are particularly good for tactical use but fell out of favor because shielding them with conventional means and the arms race made tactical nukes less useful in a MAD scenario.
Neutron bombs would essentially remove fall out issues and be a fairly clean bomb that would kill and takes lives while keep infrastructure and equipment intact.
But this is a scenario where all the words nuclear powers are in one. Luckily china and france would keep MAD partly alive. But you can absolutely see the risk if two aggressive nations were the sole nuclear powers. If it was Switzerland, we'd have little issue. Stability and peace could still come from consolidating nuclear powers, but you can't forsake NATO for Russia. It has to be Russia/EU/NATO/ USA or it doesn't change much but the direction of where the nukes are facing.
You posted this at literally the worst point, a US-Russia alliance looks less likely than it has since the cold war with Russia trying to invade Ukraine
That's why he did it, it's for the algorithm. If you're ever going to make content making it based around current events and what people are searching is how you get the most eyes on your content.
And the US is ruled over by the least legitimate regime we've had since the Civil War. Geopolitics is one half of this equation, American domestic politics is the other half.
As an European, I am fearful.
It's a possibility. A lot of people lump China and Russia into a group of ex-communist allies but during the Cold War, Russian and Chinese relations soured over time and there was contention between the two throughout the Cold War.
Most people forget that China was a factor in the Soviet Union dissolving. They even had the nerve to say that the Russians weren't "true communists", and it caused even more infighting.
I love these high quality videos, keep making these videos!
Count on it, pal!
This did not age well.
This video aged like milk lol.
The Western Right needs to ally with Putin and Eastern Europe!
Either or.
Either Putin, but you give him entire Eastern Europe
Or EE but you hurt Putin's feelings
Possible, but as of right now not likely to say it shortly.
It can only become possible if China and EU make moves to team up first. And even if that happened, Russia and America would still keep each other at an arm's length. Also, Russia has disputes and/or political conflicts with many of her neighbours who are American allies: Baltics, Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia and most importantly - Japan, the main platform of American influence in the Eastern Asia/Pacific and one of the main trade partners.
Long term Russo-American partnership may happen only if:
1. Neoliberalism and Globalist policies (the main factor driving the US towards the EU and against Russia) fall out of fashion in the eyes of American polical elites (estabilishments of Republican and Democratic parties both of which are currently strongly supportive of it). American government starts taking more pragmatic approach (instead of the ideologically motivated one) in the matters of foreign policy
2. Russian government and the political elite go through some kind of major change/reform. Russia manages to solve the issues with American allies (especially with Japan) without causing much trouble. Russia starts building ties with America instead of publically demonizing the US
It's only the legal and military systems keeping Russia and America apart politically. Business and the public welcome friendship, even Putin said that during the 90s America and Russia were "like allies." Former President H W Bush said that those that cling to "Old Europe" are the problem on the continent 👩💼🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺
Here's hoping Biden (or Harris if Biden can't complete his term) is our last neoliberal president
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Considering the shit approval ratings of Biden, Neoliberalism is reaching its last legs.
Trump or Desantis is for sure to win in 2024 which in turn would convince the DNC to ditch neoliberalism and bring in either a progressive or isolationist faction to power
No one cares about the kuril Islands dispute
@@sdagoth3037 The Democrat party is full of neoliberal, globalist Russia-haters who are also CCP fanboys and likely corrupted by Chinese money or by Communist ideology. Biden and Harris were the weakest, most controllable “leaders” they could find to install. After they’re gone they’ll either install someone else they can control or someone who actually runs things and then WW3 is virtually inevitable. WW3 is what the CCP wants (in a few years), with Russia on their side against the US. The Democrat party leaders think they are in control, but they are being used and played like pawns by the CCP.
This didn’t age well, I don’t think.
I think this downplays a few really key trends. The tensions between Russia and the United States aren't getting better, they're getting worse (especially recently). There is still a key ideological difference between Russia and the Western Bloc: Russia is controlled by an insecure autocrat who sees Soviet collapse as a tragedy that demands payback. The EU has a long long long road towards true integration, expansion has stalled (and even regressed via Brexit), and certain member states have started to backslide into nationalism and economic stagnation. Meanwhile, the United States establishment still seeks to maintain hegemony under the justification of global order, and so something like unilaterally annexing parts of Ukraine is in some ways more unacceptable to America than it is to, say, Germany.
If there's one thing I think this video nailed, it's that Putin's Russia will refuse to play China's obedient little brother. All it will take is Chinese nationalists asking uncomfortable questions about the Russian far east and 150 year old unequal treaties, diplomats talking a little too tough, and suddenly India and Russia are in talks.
Putin is not insecure, believe me
China has already been making some rather aggressive comments about Vladivostok and such. So things already aren't that great. Honestly, if it weren't for their mutual enemy in the US, they'd probably be at each others throats right now.
But you're ignoring domestic American politics, populism is on the rise and population is decisively opposed to the post-war, rules-based system of international order and especially opposed to the US maintaining this system; our national character is inherently isolationist and we can only go against this norm for so long before things fall apart at home. Yes, the current political establishment is anti-Russia, but they're equally anti-American as well and increasingly it looks like their days are numbered.
@@costakeith9048 The American Populace isn't concerned with the international order much at all right now. The major issues of concern that dominated the last few elections are all internal.
@@braxon Ultimately, yes, the concerns are domestic but the maintenance of the international order has negative effects on domestic politics. So you won't hear many say we need to end the post-war system of international order, but you will hear many say we need to shut down our overseas base and return our army home, which is effectively the same thing. Likewise, you won't hear many say we need to exploit dollar hegemony to increase domestic capital, but you will hear many argue we need protections for American industry, which would effectively accomplish the same thing.
When the system of international order is almost exclusively maintained by one country, geopolitics and the domestic politics of that country cannot be separated. If we were to move in the populist direction, it would de facto end the system of international order, even if that isn't the primary intent.
Dang this aged horribly
Yeah... yeah it did
This aged very well.
I was always thinking that the german-russian aliance was possible but was on purpose killed many times by a few politicians and foreign influence
German-Russian Empires Pre-WW1 would’ve been pretty Based. Throw in Italy and they divide up Austria-Hungary and Boom: Ultra-Based. 😎👍
Neighbors make poor allies over time, only ever really maintained if there is a third party threat. Russia and Germany are bound to come to blows for dominance in the region if left alone.
I still believe that one day we could see Russia join the European sphere. Historically, culturally, ethnically and geographically we are brother nations.
@@matt7192 agreed.
@@matt7192 Not temporally. Russian Culture rejects egalitarianism, liberalism, and feminism. Russia uses a different alphabet. Russia has different history that only occasionally intersected with portions of Western History. Russia also has large influences from non-germanic ethnicities which controlled the country for hundreds of years. Russia is also an expansive country containing many different peoples.
Meanwhile, Western Europe is a collection of small, monoethnic states of almost entirely Germanic ancestry that uses the same alphabet. They spent hundreds of years being ruled by each other. The cultures emphasize egalitarianism, liberalism, and feminism.
I feel like it be like the Nazi-Soviet pact, both of us would just be waiting to backstab each other at the right moment.
Hotline Miami 2 bouta be real :)
Oh fuck... you're right... history is repeating itself
Oh fck oh fck oh no no no... that's not good at all lol
well this aged incredibly
I really miss the period of friendship in the 90s a lot, and In the 1800s some leaders did have respect for the motherland
The 19th Century yes, 1990s no. I doubt most Russians want a return to them, also Russia wasn’t so much an ally in the 90s, but rather Yeltsin was a western puppet.
Russia can and is fostering strong trade ties with Germany, particularly with energy exports and they get their fancy German luxury imports. The US actually subsidizes energy imports to Germany so they don't get too buddy-buddy and codependent on Russia.
The US should have actually tried to do more to genuinely help Russia transition during the 90s instead of just sending over some officials from the Bill Clinton administration to essentially just say, "Hey, we don't think things are working." Yeltsin made mistakes, but he was given a monumental task that he and almost anyone else in his position would have been willfully unprepared for. Putin would have failed about just the same. Putin's "recovery" or at least stabilizing of the economy just so happened to coincide with rising oil prices after they had been down during the 90s, not any genius or truly decisive decisions on his part. Putin never rained in the oligarchs that were and still are infested in nearly every part of the Russian government that prevents industry and Market competition within the economy of Russia. Putin himself is a part of it and benefits from it directly. He would better be described as a mediator I'm still bility between the true forces of power within the government and Country, or even as a soft puppet of sorts.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 The US shouldn't have interfered against the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics at all.
Not anymore. It’s a damn shame.
The world would be praying this doesn't happen
This aged like milk
Well this didn’t age well
"Britain and America contribute more to NATO defense spending than the EU combined"
And that ladies and gentlemen, is why I believe NATO should be dissolved.
LOL from March 2022
For this to ever happen, the EU has to sort out their differences with Russia.
Or the US has to get fed up with the EU...and we're getting close, the US people are already done with the EU and NATO, but the political class will hold on for as long as they can.
Putin just needs to stop being a stubborn Boomer and retire and dissolve his power on the way out.
If Putin pulled a George Washington it would solve so many things.
@@Tzizenorec Like America is already a pretty good blue print for how a democratic Russia could work. They literally don't even have to do any work, they can just copy it.
@@buffgarfield3231 They mostly already did. Russia has presidential elections, and legislative elections, and an independent judicial branch.
@@buffgarfield3231 >America
>Democratic
Nice joke, with rig election and greedy captialist it won't work
All it would take for the US and Russia to get along is an Australian Cowboy screaming his head off in the sky.
I would love an alliance with russia, one that doesn't interfer with one anothers practices but allows for better trade and cooperation and free movement of its people.
As a Finnish person this sounds terrifying
If you can’t beat em, join em.
If the EU keeps trying to undermine American interests while leeching defense funds off of it, I can see the US stepping away from NATO in protest to the EU putting Chinese interests and BS ahead of ours. The US and China are on a collision course for a Cold War-style economic battle.
NATO served its purpose keeping Soviet communism from taking over Europe, now it lacks purpose. Now, the US’s best interests is stopping China’s expansionist interests and influence. The EU is harming that goal more than helping now.
After stepping away, we’d form a new alliance of nations to help that goal. Likely, forming even stronger relationships with South Korea, Japan, Taiwan (I dare a EU leader to publicly acknowledge Taiwan as an independent nation), and the Philippines. I also hope the US reaches out more to India, Indonesia and Vietnam, as they stand to lose a lot. Finally, as the video suggests, Russia would be a game changer in terms of a US-Russian alliance in terms of checking Chinese influence. Having an ally that shares a huge border with China is also a game changer. Not to mention the amount of Oil Russia and the US would have between them strategically.
If I was Finland, and things go the way this video says (which may be likely, as the EU is a dumpster fire of an ally with their current attitude), I’d make sure to ally with the US directly and get in on this in the future, same goes for the Baltic states.
@@DJSpike-ft9yw If Russia is the key ally for US to contain China, what would they(US) do when Russia invades the Baltic to get their precious buffer zone? US-Russia alliance is the absolute worst case scenario for any country neighboring Russia.
I’ve never understood why Russians expansion is bad but American oil wars and government toppling is ok
There are important differences between the US oil wars and Russian expansion. US is only interested in access to the oil but lets these countries more or less keep their independence, their own language and culture. Russia has destroyed the native ethnic groups and cultures in the territories it has conquered by Russification polices and with masses of Russian colonists.
Did you make the flag in the thumbnail or did you get from google? Because it’s looks amazing.
Well thank you, I did make it, along with all the other flags in my thumbnails.
@@MonsieurDean Wow! All you flags look amazing, what do you use to make them?
Oh boy i cannot call anything else that has aged more horribly then this…💀
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I'm all for a Russo American alliance I mean come on nobody would ever want to mess with something like that
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but that's kinda how ww1 started "hey let's make an alliance so big and scary no one will mess with it" as we all should know this did not turn out as planned and is at least something to consider
@@firstnamelastname7124 That requires 2 such alliances. There are basically no other great-power combinations that would work. Europe and China wouldn't exactly be too keen on an alliance, especially since Europe is already aligned with the US, and India hates China and likes both the US and Russia.
Russia isn't that powerful. It's economy is smaller than Italy's and comparable to the Nordic countries and Spain. It depends heavily on its natural resources and the international demand for them.
Yes they have an impressive army, but they wouldn't be able to afford a long engagement. The EU or China are focusing on soft power but have the industry and economy to become military powers of they want to.
@@vqlcano1698
*You’re forgetting the second part of that geo political equation*
America although they’re allies with the EU , the EU wants to work with America’s enemies like Russia , Iran and China which doesn’t help America’s influence.
China is currently using economic warfare and is buying up the U.S and EU which also doesn’t help in the long run.
Russian interests collide with American and EU interests which means they will always be enemies sadly , and Russia doesn’t trust China and definitely not America.
India is surrounded by Chinese influence while America is trying to keep India under its control through it’s influence.
Also the Indo Pacific alliance is broken , Japan and Korea constantly don’t get along while India is working with Russia on S-400s and America fk hates that.
*See how stupidly complex geo politics is ? It’s never 1 side vs 1 side , it’s more like 3 vs 2 vs 5*
@@proger1960 If America broke its ties with Europe, it wouldnt have much reason to care if Russia started expanding again and that would be the end of their conflicting agendas, same with Russia and India cooperating, why would that matter if Russia and America were friends now lol, all of your examples for why they have conflicting interests…would cease to exist in the context of the video’s scenario.
Yes the US would always have conflicts of interest with Russia as long as they stay allies with the EU, but idk if you watched the video but the whole scenario made it very clear that the US and EU would have to distance themselves and not be allies anymore really for this to happen, which isnt too implausible if Europe continues down its current route.
Then again I dont see the EU ever actually uniting, and in all likelhood its probably headed for collapse down the line here given how much division we already can see from the migrant crisis and covid shenanigans. The countries in the EU are too strongly sovereign/individualistic and their individual cultures are too pronounced to just form some harmonious union, thats not how shit works.
And if the EU does fall apart or weaken drastically, it will fall back into the US Sphere by default barring the very unlikely scenario that the powerful western European countries then decide to ditch all the liberal bullshit and turn back to nationalism and strong militaries again and therefore are across the board strong enough to create their own sphere or sphere again.
In either of those scenarios the US would stay intertwined with Europe and no an alliance with Russia wouldnt be likely, unless the world had become fucked enough for the US to be fine with throwing most of Eastern Europe and the Balkans under the bus and letting Russia go to town there.
Maybe they wouldnt even need to do this though if they let Russia expand into the Middle East with free reign instead, and whatever they want to try and wrestle away from China in asia, I mean after all why would the US need to care? It would have total free reign to annex and vassalize all of North and South America if it wanted to overtime and that population, land, and resources would be more than enough to maintain parity or supremacy with any other nation or empire on Earth.
Resource wise it wouldnt matter because as buddies, Russia and America could just trade all the resources they now control at favorable rates, and not judge each other’s imperialism anymore.
Now for most of this the US populace would have had to significantly change its world view but thats already kinda in the process of happening. The population is noticeably trending towards either political apathy or nationalism and are becoming more angry and militant. Both of those trends would enable the US to pretty much do whatever it wants within reason, especially if you had the propaganda networks all on the same page to support these actions instead of trying to stir up trouble at home and divide the populace over petty bullshit anymore.
This alliance is the alliance that every Indian dreams for. 🇮🇳♥️🇷🇺♥️🇺🇸. Hope this alliance is formed in the future
@@rylencason4420 Sure buddy.
Inevitable??? I don't know
Desirable??? Hell yes!!!
Maybe, I hope.
Tsar Alexander II had sympathies with Lincoln and the Union and sent the Baltic to New York Harbor and San Francisco Bay. And the old Russian Empire in the past did want the U.S. as a nice ally to help counter Britain.
Did America support Russia Diplomatically During the Crimean War? I think they did.
I don't recall if the US did lend diplomatic support to Russia during the Crimean War, but Russia has had a long history of subtly supporting the US dating back as early as the War for Independence, when Catherine the Great basically threatened Britain to respect free trade (for the secret purpose of allowing French supplies to reach the colonies), and refused to align with the British even despite territorial offers.
@@MonsieurDean Okay thanks.
@@MonsieurDean just curiosity, won't the recent developments in Ukraine make it harder for the Russian-American alliance to happen?
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The problem in ukraine is this.
1. US and EU are slowly putting troops in ukraine, that Russia feels threatened, which in response places troops on its border.
2. Ukraine is a failed state that is run by facsists, with the support of US political elites(ehem... biden and his son) which prevents ukraine from improving because they have a tight grip.
(Sorry for bad format on phone)
@@sandvich4days871 "run by facsists" are you kidding me? Ukrainians and facism... You better watch your nose. You took 500-1000 nukes from ukrain, now protect it, a deal is a deal.
That fact that we were friends even before WWI shows that we have the ability to work together again. Also I only think this will happen if the US, Canada, UK, New Zealand, and Australia all form a new coalition and then partner with Russia. That will honestly be the strongest suit for all. Because we all have different spheres of influence. That is after the US devourers Canada.
Funny enough but bush and Clinton thought putin could be an ally in the fight against terrorism UNTIL russia invaded Ukraine, set up its own spheres of influence in the Middle East and tons of other espionage and grievances. I will like to remind people that it was putin who ruined what could've been a good diplomatic relationship.
@@BeaverChainsaw They thought that because of the conflict with the Chechnyans (hope i spelled that right). Prior to 9/11, Chechnyan terrorists had made several high profile attacks on including a hostage situation at a school that turned into a bloodbath. It's more complicated then that but that's the short version
@@BeaverChainsaw Putin ruined everything lol
From what I've seen, he's pretty much ran Russia into the ground just to keep himself and his ambitions in the spotlight.
I’d say start a pan pacific coalition. Russia, US, NZ, Australia, Malaysia, Thailand, India, South Korea, and Japan would be pretty strong. There’s a ton of tech, natural resources, and work force there, and a huge differential in labor capabilities with a willingness to act upon those opportunities.
@@nodishtoodeep3053 This makes the most sense for all countries involved, but would require turning both Russia and the US against the CCP. I don’t know about Russia, but the current leaders of the US government (Democrats) are CCP fanboys and too stupid to recognize the benefits of aligning with Russia and prioritizing Pacific partnerships over European/Baltic relations.
USA & Russia: “Let’s team up”
Japan & Germany: [Nervous sweating]
Oh god this aged horribly
I can't envisage a scenario where the U.S and Russia would be allied without the rest of Europe also being part of the Alliance.
I can. It really depends on how "ambitious" either France or Germany becomes with the EU. Both countries have elements that could take them into a hostile economic stance vs the US, in many ways the already do (hence Trump's sanctions), but leaders who worked in US institutions during the Cold War are dying off, and the logic of subsidizing the defensive policy of a hostile economic competitor just doesn't make sense.
@@redrave404 Except there's more to world politics than just economic factors. I see a scenario with the EU and US being hostile and the US being allied with Russia being really difficult to sell to the European and American peoples. Especially for the US, considering they've been REALLY hostile for around a century at this point.
This sort of alliance is playing by the old rules, the pre-WW1 rules, where everything was a competition to see who can be the biggest bully, who has the biggest empire.
And much as this is a narrative that lots of people like to push nowadays, that simply isn't the case anymore. I mean, look at all the wars that the US and EU have gotten involved in the last three or so decades. How many of these wars do you think have actually gained them any influence or "imperial" holdings?
And as for Trump, he was a lunatic, and all sides knew it. And now he's gone. He clearly never cared about any world outside himself, and was merely at the wheels briefly due to internal political squabble.
There goes that dream
The Pentagon and Military Industrial Complex has prevented the US from disengaging in Europe. Also, a Russo-American alliance can be called NPTO, North Pacific Treaty Alliance. They will also be able to collaborate in the Artic
There's also the question of whether in the short term, China may experience another revolution or political change, and whether the EU will disintegrate or become a federal entity.
China is unlikely to face a revolution or regime change
I think the EU should downsize back to the North European Plain and just remain amicable militarily and economically to countries like Greece or Bulgaria. But people are greedy and they love to see their color on a map expand.
@@casper_z1259 the EU is nice as it is, no need for any further additions though a removal of poland and Hungary would be nice
@k. The last time the CCP tried to liberlize, the people demanded more and it resulted in the Tiananmen massacre. It won't happen in the near future.
China has a tendency to rebel every now and again
Aged like fine wine
Well, this certainly aged well.
Russian invasion voids this lol
If only the were allies, the world would be complete peace 😄😄
America and Russia: join forces
The World: "Oh FUCK!"
One invades for OIL
Other one for potatoes... for... Vodka
Small correction: China’s economy is not “growing at a rapid pace”. It is declining at a rapid pace, albeit declining from a very high place to begin with.
In China's infinite wisdom they decided it would be a very good idea to turn aginst chinese nationalized businesses in a vain attempt to return china to psudo maoism
We can’t even grow at 3% compared to us they are growing at least twice as fast
@@jesusdaholy Everyone was saying the exact same thing about Japan in the 80's and thinking they were going to overthrow the U.S. economy. Then it was swiftly revealed that growth was largely unfounded, and everything came crashing down.
China is like that, but multiplied by 50. Their GDP has grown simply because the primary message set by the federal government to its regional governments has been; "Grow the GDP, get rewarded, don't grow the GDP, get punished"
So, they divided up labor to require as many jobs as necessary, and enacted absurd economic measures like constructing more buildings than they know what to do with, with money they don't even have.
It's all gonna collapse underneath their feet given time.
@@jesusdaholy With Trump the US reached 4% until the pandemic came. The us is purposely being limited because our growth would be unmatched and our politicians and the world doesn't want that to happen.
@@PixelBlitzXP No he didn’t. He didn’t even hit 3. He peak was 2.9% yearly gdp growth in 2018. You’re thinking about a single quarter which Obama also had quarters above 4%. Try again
"Russia and the United States are no longer guided by ideologies irreconcilable with one another"
Debatable, but ideological considerations are far from the only reason countries are rivalrous with one another. The 20th Century tricked a lot of people into thinking it's all about ideology, but if you look at the 19th and early centuries, you can see that a lot of the conflicts are territorial and are driven by conflict over what are perceived to be strategic resources. Some resources can't easily be shared to mutual benefit.
There are geographical reasons why a Russo-American alliance won't happen. The two regions are too different to have the same needs, and so any alliance requires enormous compromises. Moreover, the Cold War may be over, but its legacy is not. When the Soviet Union became the Russian Federation it lost territories, and we see that conflict involving Crimea and Ukraine, two former territories, has driven both Russian revanchism and European Union desires for expansion.
The difference between Europe and Russia isn't totally arbitrary and ideological, but stems from the geographical choke point of the transitional region. This tends to drive things towards an attractor state of rivalry with ideological differences developing out of the separate needs of the different regions. The ideology of liberalism probably required mercantile sea dominant powers as exist in Europe. Russia has always tried to strategize water access. Only England could develop "Manchester liberalism", not because it has a Manchester, but because it is a sea dominant trading-imperial power being an island above the European mainland. Its successor, the USA, may not be an island, but it has easy access to long coasts on both the Pacific and Atlantic side. Russia can access both the Atlantic and Pacific, as well as the North, but on the Atlantic side it must negotiate Europe and the Scandinavian Peninsula, and its power centers are far away from its Pacific access on the other side of the country. This has heavily influenced American and Russian thinking on what kinds of powers they are. It would be difficult to unwind that.
Your comment make more sense that the video
They most important issue within the context you have set is whether the northern passage becomes a viable economic trade route. This would make the Bering Strait more valuable than both the Suez and Panama canals. Russia and the US could cooperate and dominate global shipping trade between East and West, or they could end up fighting over control of the North Pacific and Arctic Ocean, and at war with each other again. I for one think an alliance would be mutually beneficial, especially in containing Chinese imperialist expansion. Sadly I also think US leaders are too stupid and/or corrupt to recognize this. Communism is infiltrating the US culturally.
That depends on who you ask in the US. Russia is functionally a fascist dictatorship (the Duma is just a rubber stamp to give the appearance of "democracy"), pretty incompatible with western values. The far right in the US loves Russia because it's a fascist dictatorship, the Trump faction would infinitely prefer a strongman who hates the same people they hate over the slow, and sometimes indecisive nature of US democracy. The US system is also designed around preventing cults of personality from seizing total power.
@@mrvwbug4423 I don't know where you get your information about the "Trump faction" but the Trump supporters I know and have been in contact with (including online) are not interested in "strongman dictatorship" of any kind and certainly don't want any one personality (no not Trump) to seize total power of anything.
@@Finraen Nobody does, on either side, but they don't vote accordingly. The Democrats have a tendency to vote more power to the Federal government in an attempt to ram progressive agendas through, and then the Republicans take advantage of this to strike back when they gain control and then also undermine the democratic system because they are the numerically disadvantaged party. Instead of paying attention to this destructive feedback loop, people blindly vote on party lines because thinking is hard and their guy says the other guy is evil.
It also doesn't help that the increasing ineffectiveness of the US government has disillusioned the younger generations into preferring government where one party holds all the power, because then they can "get work done". This is going to get very ugly before it gets better unless people cool their rhetoric and look at each other as human beings and fellow Americans with their own needs, feelings, and desires.
Germany: I ain't doing nothing, back off you two, not again...
This did NOT age well💀
For it to be possible the old guard(like Putin) needs to go away and Russia to become proper democracy.
Russia alone is great, America alone is great. America and Russia as allies are invincible.
well well well.. this video didnt age well
Well that's NOT happening anytime soon.
I don't think anyone would like a Russian American alliance on the global stage. They're just too different.
This aged well
this aged not so great
Well if the US doesn't intervene in Russian take over of Ukraine and supports it in in a way. Then there can definitely be a possible alliance.
Some sacrifices must be made m8