Joey had this energy back when kendrick did control, but now is a different moment and time in his career and in hip hop, i think he needs to work more on developing his career and expanding his reach to get into the top tier conversation again
@@mateuszbudniak2802 yes, didn't mean to say he didn't have that energy back then, but that it was in fact appropriate at the time, and now things are so different. In my opinion, his career didn't develop enough to put him in the goat conversation, but that's arguable. Mind you ive been a fan since 1999 dropped
@@sawlty-suite5131 to me he was, honestly back in 2015 when b.4.da.$$ dropped I thought joey was the best rapper of his generation at least, (he was so young back then). not all time but on the way to become one (but you could argue that was just my hype). his career took a different path though.
5:26 i agree with that chatter heavy. I feel he had a lot of steam behind him after all Amerikkkan but he disappeared for too long. And no I'm not counting that escape from new York tape. Iirc that was actually his first bit of controversy cuz his political takes and antagonism against Trump had people talking
@@loki350i went to his concert for 2000, and he swapped out the “trump aint ready to take over” to “biden not ready” proera always been anti government , but u right that was the last time he got ‘buzz’ publicly
Joey’s nice, used to be one of my favs but I feel like he lost his momentum musically. He was busy getting to bigger bags, I ain’t mad at it, but it comes with sacrifice, he can’t force himself into that GOAT of his generation convo. 1999 is a classic, all his albums are good, but, like Shawn said, he isn’t polarizing enough, he’s just really good.
Yeah Joey has always had a pretty big ego and I think that’s part of the reason he thought he could take such a big break from music early on in the first place. He thought what he did pre 2017 was enough and it simply wasn’t. Even 2000 didn’t make the waves it should’ve if he wants to be considered a big dog like Kendrick.
2000 also a classic too, I fw Kendrick heavy and I think he’s the greatest rapper but Joey is also one of the best of this generation while also him being from NY. I think nobody is fw Joey in the NY scene.
All that momentum shit is stupid even catalog we are talking about lyrics. It’s a rap battle if rappers have to be at the same level to battle then drake shouldn’t have let Kendrick have a chance 😂
@@armandogonzalez1145I feel you but it’s different. Kendrick wasn’t a small rapper before the battle with Drake, why are we acting like he didn’t have 17 Grammy awards (even if you’re about to say nobody cares about the Grammys), he didn’t have Pulitzer Prize, he didn’t have one of the best selling tours or he didn’t have a Number 1 solo hit? Kendrick was part of the big 3 for a reason, let’s stop acting like he was a nobody before the battle. Man was over-accomplished
The funny part is he already has clout and a great career behind him, even if he doesn't quite have his finger on the pulse of the culture rn. There's nothing wrong with this
@@MASTERPIECEFROMGODno he definitely still has to rap lol, he doesn’t have the discography, hits, or even fan base to act like he’s one of the “Goats” hence why he peaked early in his career and why ppl are looking at this as “clout chasing”.
Exactly, a lot people are ruining hiphop for me personally. Everyone getting emotional over everything now and daze. This diss track doesn’t make Joey BadA$$ a hater. He is a competitor. Kendrick is my 3 favorite rapper of all time after Pac and Nas. But I’m not going to get emotional because he came at one of my favorite artists. These blogs and mediators seem to always choose sides or nitpick when it best suits their narrative. If you are a critic you are supposed to be neutral and unbiased. We all have different views but some people just be meat riding.
100% agreed, the concept of a Joey/Kendrick beef just isn't really realistic, even if I think it could be interesting in a perfect world. Joey just isn't polarizing enough to engage with people in the mainstream consciousness, even if he could have at one point, maybe if he stayed on the path he forged on All Amerikkkan Badass. Big shade to anyone trying to dismiss his entire catalogue tho, this man has multiple great albums under his belt.
Maybe but also I remember he was getting hate for releasing the revenge bc it had that mainstream kind of sound and it wasn’t true to himself is what ppl said. And I might be lying but I think he also said he’s tryna make hits so that he does look like one of those guys. Don’t take my words for granite tho. I could’ve read something totally fake lol
As much as I am a fan of Joey, it felt like he didn’t say anything on the track. But I still wouldn’t mind seeing Kendrick and Joey have a friendly fade
@@milesmohrien8964nah fr everyone literally tryna turn it into something that’s not supposed to be. Their entertainment levels are probably that low to start some unnecessary stuff 😭🙏
I love Joey and all his music, but he started to diversify his talents and split his focus too much for him to claim King to anything. You can tell Kendrick's absolute passion above all else is the music, and he only took a break after the black panther soundtrack because of writers block.
He was actually helping Keem blow up. There's reference tracks leaked from his vocals. Most of his two albums actually. So he was definitely active from 2019 to 21.
Joe Budden said it during the Kendrick Vs Drake beef. "The tone." If your track doesn't scream 'Fuck you' especially against Kendrick, what are we doing?
Also, Kendrick said it in Like That, "Fuck Sneak Dissing". Gotta leave that shit in the 2010s. Joey is dope as hell, been listening to him for years but he lacks shock value and is very traditional and not very consistent
@@thedon0516funny how you say that but Kendrick been sneak dissing for years with Sean and Drake. Also is it really sneak dissing if we know who Joey is talking about?
Joey failed to capitalize on his momentum back in 2015. now it's too little too late. using classic boom-bap sounds, no matter how amazing it is used by him, is not enough to reach the heights he aspires to. classic case of failing to evolve.
@@DaemonsRetribution”This for every-time they left me out the conversation… swear im on full attack… too much west coast dick lickin” Idk bro kinda sounds like he’s tryna be mainstream or at the very least recognized in the GOAT conversation.
I agree 100% with everything you said. Love Joey, been in my post 2010s top 3 forever but he got some catching up to do. I look forward to whatever he drops this year.
I love joey but shawn hit the nail on the head with this break down imo. Joey has always been safe. Which is fine. But cant really jump into a rap beef rn or call mfs out at this point of his career if u ask me
@ you’re hilarious. Yall said that whole last album was not commercial at all and boring but now Kendrick is pop? lol dude made a whole song in tupacs flow….bro made another two songs straight up east coast rap and another 2 songs just rapping bout life. He did two loves songs where he sampled Luther and a shuffle song; that’s hard. Like what pop?
This the thing I don't think kendrick will respond right now because he has so much shit to do from the tour with sza to the super bowl and I think he's working on his deluxe album
Rap battles exist. Sports teams can have rivalries and produce great matches, while the individual players don't have beef with the opposition. I don't get the narrative of, 'this man has to be Hitler in your eyes' in order for an entertaining competitive lyrical back and forth to exist. You can't claim this without simultaneously calling URL Rap Battle's redundant. In short, I'd love to see Ab Soul Decimate Joey
@ funny enough I caught one of the streams recently. The day right before Christmas Eve he played for like an hour, but I didn’t finish watching because since I don’t have a subscription, I kept getting stupid heavy ads. I was hoping to just catch it on UA-cam, but…it’s been a minute and no upload lmao.
@@casadastraphobia not mad at them, I didn’t know myself but it’s just funny that Gonzalo over here thought he was saying something. Kid probably typed that shit with tears in his eyes 😭
Joey just took too many breaks from his acting when he wasn't big enough to take those breaks i know so many people who didn't know who he was til raising kanan
At least he’s not polarizing in a negative way, look how’s it’s ruined the rep (not pockets) of Drake, Gunna, 6ix9ine, Diddy. Even indirectly Cole, Big Sean, etc
I feel both Joey Badass and Mick Jenkins are not aknowledge enough in the rap community. They are both top lyrical masters, they have solid albums, they care about the culture, etc. but people still sleep on them. The average hip hop fan in 2024 will find projects like B4.Da.$$ and The Patience "boring" because their style is not based on trends, viral moments or social media reach.
@kashtides I think he is niche in his style, but that particular niche does not mix well with commercial rap and it's hard for him to grab the attention of new fans.
Its not boring because its not trendy, its just boring because its boring. Just because you resonate with it doesnt mean everyone else has to just because they have skill. You can be skilled and still but people to sleep. Im saying this as a fan of both of them.
@@user-nn7ct3hk7c which albums from them are boring? If you go to Joey's discography starting in 1999 until 2000 there's no boring album or project that is a step back on his career. Some of his projects are even praised by music critics and magazines (see Fantano or Pitchfork). Does J Cole for instance have a better discography than Joey Badass?
@JDeanBeats-nr3bs Honestly I just like a few songs, like 3-4 max off all their albums. 1999 I probably like the most .They definetely have talent and skill, and the praise is deserved, but theres just something about the music that just doesnt hit all the time. Im not here to compare discographies, Im just saying I get why people dont put them in the same convo as people like Kendrick and Cole.
bro, its just a CTA like control was, in this case not only for the west coast, but for east coast too, he wants the throne of the king of ny, which is apparently vacant after what cole did.
I hope this is just a transition into an album drop. This could be Joey's chance to put himself in the conversation, he just has to come with some real heat.
Sadly no west coast artist is gonna challenge Joey on this bc rappers nowadays only beef it it’s profitable and beneficial. They are gonna treat this like they did with Lupe.
I’m a west coast chick. We didn’t hate when the East and South was up . We embraced them. I still think he is super talented and this is a great freestyle, but this is giving Ross jumping in on the drake shit (white boy😂) or Game having issues with the Em. It’s random af.
i love joey but it is a weird move for someone who has so little hype and movement at the present moment to immediately go at the biggest thing happening in hiphop. maybe this is his way of jumpstarting his return but if joey doesn't follow this up with an amazing body of work, it's gonna be doubly disappointing.
I love Joey. B4Da$$ was a super underrated album that I still go back to. But, when Kendrick drops, the entire industry goes "everyone STOP! KENDRICK DROPPED!" When Joey drops, I go "oh... Joey dropped. Cool." If they actually beefed, it would be a straight replay of Eminem vs MGK.
In a way its like childish gambino dissing drake, like yeah its cool for what it is but you not really finna move the wave and it came off as wanting attention from the beef. The timeline not really matching up
Man I need me a Kendrick vs Lupe beef. Tho given Lupe's innate inability to generate heat without back-tracking or embarrassing himself, I guess I can do with Joey for the time being
Kendrick has no reason to respond to Lupe, he’s been so blatantly jealous for years now. Cole and Drake had it coming because there was actual history of love and hate there, he said it on euphoria. I doubt Kendrick cares all that much about Lupe.
@@Ismael-kc3ry that's what makes this whole situation low-key sad.....Lupe has been too much of a try-hard in trying to get Kendricks attention. He should have kept to the bars instead of going online to explain himself - bro you don't need to explain shit to Twitter or the interviewer. Tho I guess another thing is that Lupe just doesn't even come close to the level of engagement that Kendrick gets from both critics and listeners - he could drop SLR 4 and broil and flambe and grill Kendricks entire career like Bubba Gump shrimp....but people will still deem Kendrick the winner just because. Especially post-beef, Kendrick stans have become unbearable, and I love Kendrick. My opinion, but I think Lupe is one of the greatest lyricists to have ever touched a mic and I do think he's better than Kendrick in constructing verses and the like, whereas Kendrick is a superior songwriter and artist. And I genuinely do believe that Lupe could put out a diss track that could crush Kendrick if he really wanted to - remember what he did to Royce Da 5'9? Unlike the Drake vs Kendrick beef, it wouldn't be one-sided. But yeah, rn this is just a sad state of affairs....
He’s a great MC, but I don’t think he’s changed the game in a significant way to be in that conversation. I also think he cares too much, like just do you and let the chips fall, stop trying to force yourself into the conversation.
Love Joey, and I really like this song. What I’m hoping for more than anything is two things: 1) Joey puts out an album this year that really hits 2) Other NY rappers actually step up and answer to this and start doing shit Justin Hunt said that the NY isn’t back with this, but they have a champion now, and that’s where I’m at. I think there’s a chance that some shit really pops up because of this, but it’s not guaranteed and at most this is just a start to something that could be bigger
@@WANDIVISIONSTUDIOSLLC ofcourse. Lil b won that too. Lil b the king of the underground and inspired all of these rappers since 2009 even Kendrick knows it.
@@sinsoreshippromotesconform8218 yeah Lil B was unmatched for a while. When he dropped based print 2 my whole world elevated lmaooo. He definitely inspired a lot of artists today because he was one of the first to use shock value but in an authentic way.
Well plus the lyricists have better things to do, they’ve got worthwhile passion projects they’re working on, collabs they’re trying to make happen, they’re not trying to become representatives of a region on top of all the work of being indie rappers and whatnot since so much of the lyrical stuff is in the indie scenes.
It blows my mind y’all talk about Joey Bada$$ flow but yall been doing the Migos flow for almost 15 years now that flow wasn’t around that long for yall to say all that now
The one controversial thing Joey bada$$ has ever done is come out as anti-covid vaccine and be transphobic. I pray to everything holy that his project IS NOT polarizing lmfao. We do not need more of 2021 Joey.
Kendrick uplifted the west without putting down the other regions. I wish Joey would do the same for NY. It feels like a time for the real artists to go against the outsiders instead of each other
I went to a Joey show a few years ago before 2000 came out and it was the first time he said him J Cole and Kendrick were the Holy trinity. He also dissed Drake at the show too. Btw a week after Joey made Killuminati part 2 (response to Control) he and Kendrick did a show together.
I think Joey is younger than the dudes that are the Big 3! Them mfs pushing 40 and if I’m not mistaken, isn’t he barely 33? That’s like JID and Smino age! That’s the class he in. He’s trying to hang with the Seniors when his a sophomore
Consistency. He was greselda before greselda, but people was like your too greselda, so he stopped being greselda, then greselda came out and all they do is greselda.
@@user-nn7ct3hk7cyou’re missing the point completely dude be better cmon now. What he’s saying is Guys like Joey and Griselda are Old Heads & Hip Hops Hip Hoppers. They covet that 90s style and Joey broke off to experiment at times making him lose some reign in that niche style even more so after Griselda came
@user-nn7ct3hk7c I mean the oldschool beats, I never thought Mos or Kweli and I was there as it happened and was fully on board. Mos and Kweli were grown men, joey bad ass was a little boy or a teenager when he popped, he was like a child prodigy. That was part of his mystic his narrative wasn't anything like Mos or Kweli who by the way Ive like memorized the whole black star album and it's nothing like 95 till infinity which is incredible.
shawn explains why to me why i feel like this move is a little stiff. ive seen some theories about this being about tyler the creator but whether it is or not ill say this. this is clearly bait, i said this on twitter, but if you want to get a response from another rapper SAY THEIR NAME. stop subbing, take the gloves off. the reason kendrick is called the boogeyman is when someone says his name directly he responds back. none of the control responses stuck because as kendrick said "yall gotta try a little harder". if you really want to go this route then go all the way give him a reason to respond.
It's definitely about Kendrick not Tyler lol. So many lines that link to Kendrick: "I got murals in my city, f a nomination This for every time they left me out the conversation" "It's clear who the heir apparent king of NY" "Too much West Coast lickin'" "This that black Airforce energy comin' out your speaker." "I'm out your reach, your arms too short to box the Elohim" "This ain't boom bap - this that boom-bow-bing" All clearly Kendrick shots. Not seen any clear Tyler shots
@@onetwo8847 apparently tyler was the one that sent shots with the maybach line in his hey now remix. im not too sure of the connection myself but i guess he is going for the whole west coast not just kendrick so it could still somewhat apply to both.
I disagree. Hip hop being competitive is what helps the genre and it actually helps rappers get better. This buddy buddy shit thats been going on since 2013 needs to end honestly lol.
Joey Badass and Troy ave had a beef.... Troy ave talked about capital steeze tryna fly like that one RKelly Song. And Joey ain't like that. They each dropped a track but then Troy got shot and snitched and no one cared
Why Everybody hating on Joey in the comments.... I think the song is good, not amazing or anything but like.... It's not mid or bad. The lyrics were good. I agree with Shawn, Joey isn't that hungry to out a project worth staying - I hope he comes back with a fire project to get people talking
He’s not dissing Kendrick. He’s reminding everybody that NY is here too. That’s all. Joey is doing what Kendrick told everyone to do on Wacced Out Murals. RAP AND STOP WHINING. And don’t be shocked if people come out of Chicago, Texas, Florida, etc doing the same. I think we’ve gone so long without Rap being regional, pride in where you’re from is viewed as dissing. When in reality, this isn’t new, and was a thing a decade ago. People are really mad that Joey is doing what Kendrick just did. Comedy. Lol.😒
He doesn’t use that many literary devices it’s that simple . I’m not gone lie the Kendrick vs Drake beef showed that this generation and UA-cam don’t know how to properly rate rappers skill levels yall jus say cliche shit like he’s not lyricall enough which is an overrated term . People really need to start learning wat there literary devices which is basic information but I forget what generation im part of 🤦🏽♂️😂as a metric to rate rappers skill . Metaphors, oxymorons , hyperbole the list goes on cause yall overlook a lot of shit but i respect his courage and dedication to the craft
@@thesensiblesocialist I don’t believe that. Drake was king for how long again? And how many people came for his head again? Oh right, zero including Joey. This is called clout chasing.
Friendly competition. I think K Dot would appreciate this. These are rappers. They’re supposed to be talking their sh#%. I fw it I don’t listen to Joey much at all, but I’ve heard he was good. He didn’t sound bad here.
Why people overthinking this? 2024 went from Kendrick won the beef, to Tyler has the best album, to actually Doechii has the best album, to Kendrick has the best album (and they did all put out good projects). Not to mention Blue Lips also went crazy before all this and before all that most people were hoping for a Kendrick/Baby Keem album. You see polls for best rap song, where Kendrick wins with a song that's not even real. Plus I've seen talks of the West is leading Hip Hop, surpassing the South, when its mainly 4 artist or so that are going crazy and they really only been snapping for maybe the last half of the year. All that to say, the West is getting rode a bit, but Joey definitely hating a bit too. lol
Yea you right the attention has been on the west coast, for good reason too. I think Joey is just trying to bring back the attention to East coast for 2025, hopefully the others(NYC rappers) get with the plan too. We haven't had a good regional show in a minute.
Delusional. The south been running Hip Hop for more than a decade and change.. You could argue 1/3rd or more of the current Hip Hop Industry are from Atlanta alone. Kendrick is one artist he can't account for an entire region lmao
Yeah I don't agree with the feeling of not wanting bars thrown out unless there's real animosity. Why can't rap be competitive between lyricists in a fun, more casual sense? Shit doesn't HAVE to be about drama.
I don’t think it’s a diss. Joey understood the assignment with control. I think Kendrick would appreciate it especially since he said Joeys response during control was fire
Joey beefed with Troy Ave (yeah I know) but still. Troy Ave made fun of Steez, watch Joeys 5 Fingers of Death freestyle where he responded, Joey really washed him
@@user-nn7ct3hk7c I know lmaoo, but at the time Troy Ave was either hot or cooling down, not sure if he fell off yet, I can't remember precisely. Joey didn't speak on Troy ave disrespecting Steez too much until the 5 fingers of Death freestyle, told him "the karma gonna catch up the album sales won't" and eventually the karma did catch up to troy lol.
His (& any other lyricist) momentum is now… we’re back in the years of real hip hop. This is the first time in years that ATL nonsense isn’t flooding the airways. Perfect timing for any lyricist to come out & play.
joey would have to put out an album for east coast the same way gnx is an album for west coast, his sound is very clearly new york but he needs songs to hit in public like at a club or on tiktok, thats how youre attracting new fans
definitely some direct allusions to the beef and indirect allusions to Kendrick, but nothing here really sounds like an actual diss. a challenge, maybe, but if it is one, it’s directed at the East Coast more than anything else. like “the West is having its moment, we need to step up and i’m gonna lead the charge.” this is not the direct, opening salvo that Like That was. it sounds more like someone who’s out for the respect that he deserves (and i can’t say he doesn’t, he’s incredibly talented). i know a lot of people want to see great MCs going at it, but this isn’t gonna be the track to start it. that said, if for any reason this thing escalates, Kendrick vs Joey would be a hell of a lot closer than the Drake beef was. Joey is respected by hip hop heads and doesn’t have the obvious character issues that Drake has. to be clear, he does NOT have the capacity to destroy Kendrick, but Joey would have a much better chance of surviving it with his respect intact.
This what keeping Hip Hop competitive looks like. He’s not clout chasing, he’s addressing everyone broadly and trying to bring some energy to the East Coast after the West just had a crazy year. No shots just throwing his glove in the ring and seeing who wants to compete 🤷🏿♂️
@@DJDarkStrokes I feel like words don’t matter when people like you choose their meaning based on your feelings. This is 100% clout chasing. He’s coming out of nowhere to diss the man on top for absolutely no reason, completely unprovoked, at a time when he knows mentioning Kendrick will get reaction channels to put him in the title and thumbnail. Mfer’s doing gymnastics to avoid the obvious fact that this is the literal definition of clout chasing. And don’t give me the “hip hop is competitive” line, two things can be true.
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I think Joey feel gassed up because he won that fight in the hat store 😂😂
😂😂😂☠️
My suspicion is now confirmed about the staging of that “altercation”
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😂😂😂
Marketing stunt
Joey had this energy back when kendrick did control, but now is a different moment and time in his career and in hip hop, i think he needs to work more on developing his career and expanding his reach to get into the top tier conversation again
killuminati pt2?
@@mateuszbudniak2802 yes, didn't mean to say he didn't have that energy back then, but that it was in fact appropriate at the time, and now things are so different. In my opinion, his career didn't develop enough to put him in the goat conversation, but that's arguable. Mind you ive been a fan since 1999 dropped
Edited my comment to make that clear
Again? Was he really part of the convo like that?
@@sawlty-suite5131 to me he was, honestly back in 2015 when b.4.da.$$ dropped I thought joey was the best rapper of his generation at least, (he was so young back then). not all time but on the way to become one (but you could argue that was just my hype). his career took a different path though.
1:10 Yes, you are midwest
He's literally biased towards Midwest rappers too
he always is
He definitelytrollin, he knows 😂
Detroit gets an honorary place at the west coast table though, there's way too much shared history there.
"It's not enough"
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Few solid niggas felt
🤣🤣😂 all I kept thinking hearing this track all day
Oh you know ball
4:02 Denzel is WAY more experimental and he stays around doing features, mixtapes, freestyles
5:26 i agree with that chatter heavy. I feel he had a lot of steam behind him after all Amerikkkan but he disappeared for too long.
And no I'm not counting that escape from new York tape.
Iirc that was actually his first bit of controversy cuz his political takes and antagonism against Trump had people talking
@@loki350i went to his concert for 2000, and he swapped out the “trump aint ready to take over” to “biden not ready” proera always been anti government , but u right that was the last time he got ‘buzz’ publicly
true JID , DENZEL AND JOEY IS THE NEW BIG 3 IN 2025
@@Trizzy-d1fI’d love this
Denzel is a rapper for people whose favorite movie is baby driver
Joey’s nice, used to be one of my favs but I feel like he lost his momentum musically. He was busy getting to bigger bags, I ain’t mad at it, but it comes with sacrifice, he can’t force himself into that GOAT of his generation convo. 1999 is a classic, all his albums are good, but, like Shawn said, he isn’t polarizing enough, he’s just really good.
Yeah Joey has always had a pretty big ego and I think that’s part of the reason he thought he could take such a big break from music early on in the first place. He thought what he did pre 2017 was enough and it simply wasn’t. Even 2000 didn’t make the waves it should’ve if he wants to be considered a big dog like Kendrick.
2000 also a classic too, I fw Kendrick heavy and I think he’s the greatest rapper but Joey is also one of the best of this generation while also him being from NY. I think nobody is fw Joey in the NY scene.
All that momentum shit is stupid even catalog we are talking about lyrics. It’s a rap battle if rappers have to be at the same level to battle then drake shouldn’t have let Kendrick have a chance 😂
@@armandogonzalez1145I feel you but it’s different. Kendrick wasn’t a small rapper before the battle with Drake, why are we acting like he didn’t have 17 Grammy awards (even if you’re about to say nobody cares about the Grammys), he didn’t have Pulitzer Prize, he didn’t have one of the best selling tours or he didn’t have a Number 1 solo hit? Kendrick was part of the big 3 for a reason, let’s stop acting like he was a nobody before the battle. Man was over-accomplished
@@armandogonzalez1145no, they both viewed themselves as competition and they both hated each other
Why are people crying hip hop is a competitive sport and it's disappointing seeing people say he's clout chasing
The funny part is he already has clout and a great career behind him, even if he doesn't quite have his finger on the pulse of the culture rn. There's nothing wrong with this
@@kbreezy1581he doesn’t have to rap ever again , he solidify . This all for sport . Kdot fans acting like the Canadian’s fans
“Hip hop is a competitive sport” go outside pls
@@MASTERPIECEFROMGODno he definitely still has to rap lol, he doesn’t have the discography, hits, or even fan base to act like he’s one of the “Goats” hence why he peaked early in his career and why ppl are looking at this as “clout chasing”.
Exactly, a lot people are ruining hiphop for me personally. Everyone getting emotional over everything now and daze. This diss track doesn’t make Joey BadA$$ a hater. He is a competitor. Kendrick is my 3 favorite rapper of all time after Pac and Nas. But I’m not going to get emotional because he came at one of my favorite artists.
These blogs and mediators seem to always choose sides or nitpick when it best suits their narrative. If you are a critic you are supposed to be neutral and unbiased. We all have different views but some people just be meat riding.
100% agreed, the concept of a Joey/Kendrick beef just isn't really realistic, even if I think it could be interesting in a perfect world. Joey just isn't polarizing enough to engage with people in the mainstream consciousness, even if he could have at one point, maybe if he stayed on the path he forged on All Amerikkkan Badass.
Big shade to anyone trying to dismiss his entire catalogue tho, this man has multiple great albums under his belt.
Maybe but also I remember he was getting hate for releasing the revenge bc it had that mainstream kind of sound and it wasn’t true to himself is what ppl said. And I might be lying but I think he also said he’s tryna make hits so that he does look like one of those guys. Don’t take my words for granite tho. I could’ve read something totally fake lol
I think that Soulo would be a better matchup for him. Ab-Soul and him are about the same level
all amerikkkan badass is his weakest album
As much as I am a fan of Joey, it felt like he didn’t say anything on the track. But I still wouldn’t mind seeing Kendrick and Joey have a friendly fade
kendrick is prolly too busy to start some friendly shi with joey 🤣 superbowl, stadium tour etc. i think hes just gonna ignore him
i feel like everyones dragging it, hes not dissing kendrick😂
@@jassyokayget off ur knees dawg
@@milesmohrien8964nah fr everyone literally tryna turn it into something that’s not supposed to be. Their entertainment levels are probably that low to start some unnecessary stuff 😭🙏
@@jassyokaywhat did he say about Kendrick?
I love Joey and all his music, but he started to diversify his talents and split his focus too much for him to claim King to anything. You can tell Kendrick's absolute passion above all else is the music, and he only took a break after the black panther soundtrack because of writers block.
He was actually helping Keem blow up. There's reference tracks leaked from his vocals. Most of his two albums actually. So he was definitely active from 2019 to 21.
@Bionimetic yes but as far as his own music he said he had writers block and nothing moved him on MMTBS
Joe Budden said it during the Kendrick Vs Drake beef. "The tone."
If your track doesn't scream 'Fuck you' especially against Kendrick, what are we doing?
^^^this 100%
Also, Kendrick said it in Like That, "Fuck Sneak Dissing". Gotta leave that shit in the 2010s. Joey is dope as hell, been listening to him for years but he lacks shock value and is very traditional and not very consistent
@@viz683 For me I'm tired of tiptoeing, just name drop atp.
@@thedon0516funny how you say that but Kendrick been sneak dissing for years with Sean and Drake. Also is it really sneak dissing if we know who Joey is talking about?
Joey failed to capitalize on his momentum back in 2015. now it's too little too late. using classic boom-bap sounds, no matter how amazing it is used by him, is not enough to reach the heights he aspires to. classic case of failing to evolve.
I don't think he necessarily has to evolve his style necessarily. I don't believe he evens strives to be a mainstream artist
@@DaemonsRetribution”This for every-time they left me out the conversation… swear im on full attack… too much west coast dick lickin” Idk bro kinda sounds like he’s tryna be mainstream or at the very least recognized in the GOAT conversation.
he was born in the wrong era, in the earl 2000s or 90's he would of been in peak form still
I agree 100% with everything you said. Love Joey, been in my post 2010s top 3 forever but he got some catching up to do. I look forward to whatever he drops this year.
Joey is a consistent 7. never really slips but doesn't wow you really either.
7~? lmfao he got better bars then most, run along fool lol. 7 my ass
@@magshypeHe's at least an 8 bare minimum 💯
@@magshypeSo if 5 is average 7 is above other people? Do people forget 7 is a good score?
I wish he would've capitalized on AAB. I still listen to that album in the heavy rotation but everything since then has been 'just okay'.
@@magshypebars like what? Mention a great bar, something he has said that is just iconic, I'll wait
We know 50 Cent hyping him up I the background
Facts
“Old ass flows trying to convince me that you they favorite” 🤔🤔🤔
who said this ?
@@bishopmedia4580 👀
@@bishopmedia4580Kendrick
@@bishopmedia4580 Kendrick Duckworth
is the flow Joey used an old flow ?
I love joey but shawn hit the nail on the head with this break down imo. Joey has always been safe. Which is fine. But cant really jump into a rap beef rn or call mfs out at this point of his career if u ask me
5:12 agreed, he went the acting route and never really professed for that 'top spot'. This screams "I'm jux being contrarian"
Exactly
joey more lyrical then kendrick. kdot with the west coast shit went pop
@ you’re hilarious. Yall said that whole last album was not commercial at all and boring but now Kendrick is pop? lol dude made a whole song in tupacs flow….bro made another two songs straight up east coast rap and another 2 songs just rapping bout life. He did two loves songs where he sampled Luther and a shuffle song; that’s hard. Like what pop?
@ don’t back track cuz you don’t have a point. You said he turned pop. What that he did on this album didn’t he do on gkmc? What “turn” did he make?
He wanted to create an earth tremor but ended up being a tummy rumble.. 😭
😂😂😂
Joey needs to be consistent that's all, whether it's about west coast, east coast, he needs to represent himself better Discography wise.
This the thing I don't think kendrick will respond right now because he has so much shit to do from the tour with sza to the super bowl and I think he's working on his deluxe album
Kendrick is not going to respond
Kendrick has no reason to respond regardless
Rap battles exist. Sports teams can have rivalries and produce great matches, while the individual players don't have beef with the opposition. I don't get the narrative of, 'this man has to be Hitler in your eyes' in order for an entertaining competitive lyrical back and forth to exist. You can't claim this without simultaneously calling URL Rap Battle's redundant.
In short, I'd love to see Ab Soul Decimate Joey
Current Joey possibly but 2012-2015 Joey is not being decimated lmao. They literally did a song together and it was pretty much even
Everybody mad that west coast been up
UNC where's the bully playthrough
It’s been TOO long since he’s uploaded bully 😩
@@onlyijr fr, tf he up to on the streams then? i cant see his stream, i guess its region locked? idk.
@ funny enough I caught one of the streams recently. The day right before Christmas Eve he played for like an hour, but I didn’t finish watching because since I don’t have a subscription, I kept getting stupid heavy ads. I was hoping to just catch it on UA-cam, but…it’s been a minute and no upload lmao.
Zoomer fans really think Joey is the first rapper make that west coast lickin comment.
Zoomer not an insult anymore u just sound old and bitter
@@gonzalo2465found the zoomer lmao
To be fair though how you expect them to know gang 😂
@@casadastraphobia not mad at them, I didn’t know myself but it’s just funny that Gonzalo over here thought he was saying something. Kid probably typed that shit with tears in his eyes 😭
@@gonzalo2465 I'm literally a zoomer
Joey just took too many breaks from his acting when he wasn't big enough to take those breaks i know so many people who didn't know who he was til raising kanan
joey literally had no reason to do this lmao
At least he’s not polarizing in a negative way, look how’s it’s ruined the rep (not pockets) of Drake, Gunna, 6ix9ine, Diddy. Even indirectly Cole, Big Sean, etc
I feel both Joey Badass and Mick Jenkins are not aknowledge enough in the rap community. They are both top lyrical masters, they have solid albums, they care about the culture, etc. but people still sleep on them. The average hip hop fan in 2024 will find projects like B4.Da.$$ and The Patience "boring" because their style is not based on trends, viral moments or social media reach.
Shit doesn't need to be a 'trend' to draw attention though. Joey is talented but his style doesn't stand out
@kashtides I think he is niche in his style, but that particular niche does not mix well with commercial rap and it's hard for him to grab the attention of new fans.
Its not boring because its not trendy, its just boring because its boring. Just because you resonate with it doesnt mean everyone else has to just because they have skill. You can be skilled and still but people to sleep. Im saying this as a fan of both of them.
@@user-nn7ct3hk7c which albums from them are boring? If you go to Joey's discography starting in 1999 until 2000 there's no boring album or project that is a step back on his career. Some of his projects are even praised by music critics and magazines (see Fantano or Pitchfork). Does J Cole for instance have a better discography than Joey Badass?
@JDeanBeats-nr3bs Honestly I just like a few songs, like 3-4 max off all their albums. 1999 I probably like the most .They definetely have talent and skill, and the praise is deserved, but theres just something about the music that just doesnt hit all the time. Im not here to compare discographies, Im just saying I get why people dont put them in the same convo as people like Kendrick and Cole.
All due respect if Joey gonna beef with Kenny he needs to worry bout Earl, Vince, Denzel or JID first
Or Tyler
Dont put jid in front of him lol
Putting JID before Joey is insulting.
@@JustTooRisky1 Joey is way better than "JID"
Only twitter hip hop nerds care about those names no one in the real world listens to them. Joey clears every single one you mentioned.
Mfs diss Kendrick way faster than they diss the babynapper is crazy
Right, it's mad weird.
bro, its just a CTA like control was, in this case not only for the west coast, but for east coast too, he wants the throne of the king of ny, which is apparently vacant after what cole did.
@@showmade235 I don't think Cole could be the king of NY even if won the beef since he's not from NY
0:57 you Midwest lmao “they not like us” 😂😂
😂
So in Tyler’s Hey now remix he mentions Rick the ruler and the maybach. Did he know about this diss coming out before it did?
He said R.I.P the Ruler (Drakeo the Ruler) not Rick the Ruler
@ oh shit my fault . I totally misheard then.
@@Poppa_appa no reason to say my fault G. Just informing you.
The conductor tag lets you know this is a smash hit
I totally missed the sopranos house
I hope this is just a transition into an album drop. This could be Joey's chance to put himself in the conversation, he just has to come with some real heat.
No end of year list😔
Sadly no west coast artist is gonna challenge Joey on this bc rappers nowadays only beef it it’s profitable and beneficial. They are gonna treat this like they did with Lupe.
No no. Lupe is to be FEARED and they all know that. Love Joey, but nowhere in the same bracket.
I hope DAYLYT fucks shit up at least competitively we need some Room Full of Mirrors recognition.
Icejjfish is more known @@WeAreAllThings
@@WeAreAllThings If Lupe were to drop a diss track tomorrow I would be shoving to be first in line to hear it.
@@toriansanders6176 not the same thing. Joey is ill but Lupe is something else. No one wants to battle him. He's not ignored, he's feared
100% agree with this take. The song is nice enough, but it's just a big perfunctory and out of nowhere.
I’m a west coast chick. We didn’t hate when the East and South was up . We embraced them. I still think he is super talented and this is a great freestyle, but this is giving Ross jumping in on the drake shit (white boy😂) or Game having issues with the Em. It’s random af.
I feel like y’all are gassing it too much like bro is not dissing kendrick if he and his team are still cool with each other ..
i love joey but it is a weird move for someone who has so little hype and movement at the present moment to immediately go at the biggest thing happening in hiphop. maybe this is his way of jumpstarting his return but if joey doesn't follow this up with an amazing body of work, it's gonna be doubly disappointing.
I love Joey. B4Da$$ was a super underrated album that I still go back to. But, when Kendrick drops, the entire industry goes "everyone STOP! KENDRICK DROPPED!" When Joey drops, I go "oh... Joey dropped. Cool."
If they actually beefed, it would be a straight replay of Eminem vs MGK.
I have seriously realized a lot of this generation of fans aren't fans of hip hop at all
When u playing bully again
In a way its like childish gambino dissing drake, like yeah its cool for what it is but you not really finna move the wave and it came off as wanting attention from the beef. The timeline not really matching up
Man I need me a Kendrick vs Lupe beef.
Tho given Lupe's innate inability to generate heat without back-tracking or embarrassing himself, I guess I can do with Joey for the time being
Lupe would have bars that would go over Kendricks head. Lupe will be doing laps around kendrick
Kendrick has no reason to respond to Lupe, he’s been so blatantly jealous for years now. Cole and Drake had it coming because there was actual history of love and hate there, he said it on euphoria. I doubt Kendrick cares all that much about Lupe.
@@ahmadlansari5224 if lupe has bars that goes over everyone's head, what's the point of them?
Naw I don’t need it tbh by default dot wins regardless bc of public opinion.
@@Ismael-kc3ry that's what makes this whole situation low-key sad.....Lupe has been too much of a try-hard in trying to get Kendricks attention. He should have kept to the bars instead of going online to explain himself - bro you don't need to explain shit to Twitter or the interviewer.
Tho I guess another thing is that Lupe just doesn't even come close to the level of engagement that Kendrick gets from both critics and listeners - he could drop SLR 4 and broil and flambe and grill Kendricks entire career like Bubba Gump shrimp....but people will still deem Kendrick the winner just because. Especially post-beef, Kendrick stans have become unbearable, and I love Kendrick.
My opinion, but I think Lupe is one of the greatest lyricists to have ever touched a mic and I do think he's better than Kendrick in constructing verses and the like, whereas Kendrick is a superior songwriter and artist. And I genuinely do believe that Lupe could put out a diss track that could crush Kendrick if he really wanted to - remember what he did to Royce Da 5'9? Unlike the Drake vs Kendrick beef, it wouldn't be one-sided.
But yeah, rn this is just a sad state of affairs....
He’s a great MC, but I don’t think he’s changed the game in a significant way to be in that conversation. I also think he cares too much, like just do you and let the chips fall, stop trying to force yourself into the conversation.
I wanna see Tyler (west coast) take on joey. Would be 🔥
this beat is heavenly
“Old ass flows, tryna convince me that you they favorite”
I love joey badssa and would love to see them diss each other but im not sure if kendrick would want too unfortunately.
yes because why would he
I need need need a Mick Jenkins, Joey badass, and Saba track
Love Joey, and I really like this song. What I’m hoping for more than anything is two things:
1) Joey puts out an album this year that really hits
2) Other NY rappers actually step up and answer to this and start doing shit
Justin Hunt said that the NY isn’t back with this, but they have a champion now, and that’s where I’m at. I think there’s a chance that some shit really pops up because of this, but it’s not guaranteed and at most this is just a start to something that could be bigger
2:23 look up the Joey V.S. Lil B beef it was 13 years ago… classic
Lil B won that.
@ that’s a fact. have you heard the lil B diss towards Joe budden ?
@@WANDIVISIONSTUDIOSLLC ofcourse. Lil b won that too. Lil b the king of the underground and inspired all of these rappers since 2009 even Kendrick knows it.
@@WANDIVISIONSTUDIOSLLC Joey did good though but Lil b responded very well
@@sinsoreshippromotesconform8218 yeah Lil B was unmatched for a while. When he dropped based print 2 my whole world elevated lmaooo. He definitely inspired a lot of artists today because he was one of the first to use shock value but in an authentic way.
You crazy for not wanting to be Midwest. We got Freddie Gibbs, Kanye, Eminem, and more…
We can get back to regional beef if it’s between lyricists. Unfortunately to many nobodies wanna crash out.
Well plus the lyricists have better things to do, they’ve got worthwhile passion projects they’re working on, collabs they’re trying to make happen, they’re not trying to become representatives of a region on top of all the work of being indie rappers and whatnot since so much of the lyrical stuff is in the indie scenes.
@ I agree.
It blows my mind y’all talk about Joey Bada$$ flow but yall been doing the Migos flow for almost 15 years now that flow wasn’t around that long for yall to say all that now
The one controversial thing Joey bada$$ has ever done is come out as anti-covid vaccine and be transphobic. I pray to everything holy that his project IS NOT polarizing lmfao. We do not need more of 2021 Joey.
Kendrick uplifted the west without putting down the other regions. I wish Joey would do the same for NY. It feels like a time for the real artists to go against the outsiders instead of each other
Love Joey....this was boring. And he's been getting boring for a a while now. He needs to evolve his sound.
I went to a Joey show a few years ago before 2000 came out and it was the first time he said him J Cole and Kendrick were the Holy trinity. He also dissed Drake at the show too.
Btw a week after Joey made Killuminati part 2 (response to Control) he and Kendrick did a show together.
I think Joey is younger than the dudes that are the Big 3! Them mfs pushing 40 and if I’m not mistaken, isn’t he barely 33? That’s like JID and Smino age! That’s the class he in. He’s trying to hang with the Seniors when his a sophomore
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Consistency. He was greselda before greselda, but people was like your too greselda, so he stopped being greselda, then greselda came out and all they do is greselda.
bro what?
Joey was never like Griselda. More like Talib Kweli And Mos Def. Idk where you ever heard anyone compare him to Griselda
@@user-nn7ct3hk7cI’m just as confused as you
@@user-nn7ct3hk7cyou’re missing the point completely dude be better cmon now. What he’s saying is Guys like Joey and Griselda are Old Heads & Hip Hops Hip Hoppers. They covet that 90s style and Joey broke off to experiment at times making him lose some reign in that niche style even more so after Griselda came
@user-nn7ct3hk7c I mean the oldschool beats, I never thought Mos or Kweli and I was there as it happened and was fully on board. Mos and Kweli were grown men, joey bad ass was a little boy or a teenager when he popped, he was like a child prodigy. That was part of his mystic his narrative wasn't anything like Mos or Kweli who by the way Ive like memorized the whole black star album and it's nothing like 95 till infinity which is incredible.
shawn explains why to me why i feel like this move is a little stiff. ive seen some theories about this being about tyler the creator but whether it is or not ill say this.
this is clearly bait, i said this on twitter, but if you want to get a response from another rapper SAY THEIR NAME. stop subbing, take the gloves off. the reason kendrick is called the boogeyman is when someone says his name directly he responds back. none of the control responses stuck because as kendrick said "yall gotta try a little harder". if you really want to go this route then go all the way give him a reason to respond.
It's definitely about Kendrick not Tyler lol. So many lines that link to Kendrick:
"I got murals in my city, f a nomination
This for every time they left me out the conversation"
"It's clear who the heir apparent king of NY"
"Too much West Coast lickin'"
"This that black Airforce energy comin' out your speaker."
"I'm out your reach, your arms too short to box the Elohim"
"This ain't boom bap - this that boom-bow-bing"
All clearly Kendrick shots.
Not seen any clear Tyler shots
@@onetwo8847 Shots or nods? These two have always had respect for each other. So either way its not personal.
@@onetwo8847 apparently tyler was the one that sent shots with the maybach line in his hey now remix. im not too sure of the connection myself but i guess he is going for the whole west coast not just kendrick so it could still somewhat apply to both.
I disagree. Hip hop being competitive is what helps the genre and it actually helps rappers get better. This buddy buddy shit thats been going on since 2013 needs to end honestly lol.
Joey Badass and Troy ave had a beef.... Troy ave talked about capital steeze tryna fly like that one RKelly Song. And Joey ain't like that. They each dropped a track but then Troy got shot and snitched and no one cared
Joey vs Troy Ave was cool, let’s see how the other team responds
Shawn talking bout some “I ain’t ever seen joey in a rap battle” while Kendrick never had been in a rap battle before Drake. It goes both ways.
He was battling in Compton before the fame. Maybe was a cypher but people was callin it a battle
Hip hop is a sport let's get competitive
ngl all this makes me think is how Kendrick would sound over a 90's G-Funk beat.
Why Everybody hating on Joey in the comments.... I think the song is good, not amazing or anything but like.... It's not mid or bad. The lyrics were good. I agree with Shawn, Joey isn't that hungry to out a project worth staying - I hope he comes back with a fire project to get people talking
Bro staged an altercation as rollout to this mid 😂 going out sad
He’s not dissing Kendrick. He’s reminding everybody that NY is here too. That’s all. Joey is doing what Kendrick told everyone to do on Wacced Out Murals. RAP AND STOP WHINING. And don’t be shocked if people come out of Chicago, Texas, Florida, etc doing the same.
I think we’ve gone so long without Rap being regional, pride in where you’re from is viewed as dissing. When in reality, this isn’t new, and was a thing a decade ago. People are really mad that Joey is doing what Kendrick just did. Comedy. Lol.😒
He doesn’t use that many literary devices it’s that simple . I’m not gone lie the Kendrick vs Drake beef showed that this generation and UA-cam don’t know how to properly rate rappers skill levels yall jus say cliche shit like he’s not lyricall enough which is an overrated term . People really need to start learning wat there literary devices which is basic information but I forget what generation im part of 🤦🏽♂️😂as a metric to rate rappers skill . Metaphors, oxymorons , hyperbole the list goes on cause yall overlook a lot of shit but i respect his courage and dedication to the craft
I'm glad he's back. And I fuck with Kendrick but you can't be a king without people coming for your head.
@@thesensiblesocialist I don’t believe that. Drake was king for how long again? And how many people came for his head again? Oh right, zero including Joey. This is called clout chasing.
Ain’t no other king in this rap thing, they siblings….
Who rapped that?
I mean if he feels this way then he should say it. I don't think Kdot will respond but this is the energy he wanted. Fair enough
It’s messed up cause Joey is still respected but it’s like bruh in a few years and run this back
Shawn part of that midwest movement. Such and such said so and so about somethiing. Whatever Surf said
I thought of the same shit we he said Midwest
Nah Shawn if you were really meant that “got smoke” point, then Chicago or NY drill rappers would be the most exciting rap beefs
Friendly competition. I think K Dot would appreciate this. These are rappers. They’re supposed to be talking their sh#%. I fw it
I don’t listen to Joey much at all, but I’ve heard he was good. He didn’t sound bad here.
Joey needs to just start doing hella features & features on different regional artists to.
Why people overthinking this? 2024 went from Kendrick won the beef, to Tyler has the best album, to actually Doechii has the best album, to Kendrick has the best album (and they did all put out good projects). Not to mention Blue Lips also went crazy before all this and before all that most people were hoping for a Kendrick/Baby Keem album. You see polls for best rap song, where Kendrick wins with a song that's not even real. Plus I've seen talks of the West is leading Hip Hop, surpassing the South, when its mainly 4 artist or so that are going crazy and they really only been snapping for maybe the last half of the year. All that to say, the West is getting rode a bit, but Joey definitely hating a bit too. lol
Yea you right the attention has been on the west coast, for good reason too. I think Joey is just trying to bring back the attention to East coast for 2025, hopefully the others(NYC rappers) get with the plan too.
We haven't had a good regional show in a minute.
Delusional. The south been running Hip Hop for more than a decade and change.. You could argue 1/3rd or more of the current Hip Hop Industry are from Atlanta alone. Kendrick is one artist he can't account for an entire region lmao
Yeah I don't agree with the feeling of not wanting bars thrown out unless there's real animosity. Why can't rap be competitive between lyricists in a fun, more casual sense? Shit doesn't HAVE to be about drama.
Michigan is midwest so it basically counts as east coast
Nah Midwest is its own region
I don’t think it’s a diss. Joey understood the assignment with control. I think Kendrick would appreciate it especially since he said Joeys response during control was fire
Can we stop making everything about Kendrick please, damn
Honestly thought is was agent from amp in the thumbnail 😂
Joey beefed with Troy Ave (yeah I know) but still. Troy Ave made fun of Steez, watch Joeys 5 Fingers of Death freestyle where he responded, Joey really washed him
Troy Ave isnt even competition
@@user-nn7ct3hk7c I know lmaoo, but at the time Troy Ave was either hot or cooling down, not sure if he fell off yet, I can't remember precisely. Joey didn't speak on Troy ave disrespecting Steez too much until the 5 fingers of Death freestyle, told him "the karma gonna catch up the album sales won't" and eventually the karma did catch up to troy lol.
His (& any other lyricist) momentum is now… we’re back in the years of real hip hop. This is the first time in years that ATL nonsense isn’t flooding the airways. Perfect timing for any lyricist to come out & play.
we need a new joey album :(
Just put the fries in the bag Joey
This the second time he came at Kendrick for picking other ppl to face off with vs him
joey would have to put out an album for east coast the same way gnx is an album for west coast, his sound is very clearly new york but he needs songs to hit in public like at a club or on tiktok, thats how youre attracting new fans
definitely some direct allusions to the beef and indirect allusions to Kendrick, but nothing here really sounds like an actual diss. a challenge, maybe, but if it is one, it’s directed at the East Coast more than anything else. like “the West is having its moment, we need to step up and i’m gonna lead the charge.” this is not the direct, opening salvo that Like That was. it sounds more like someone who’s out for the respect that he deserves (and i can’t say he doesn’t, he’s incredibly talented). i know a lot of people want to see great MCs going at it, but this isn’t gonna be the track to start it.
that said, if for any reason this thing escalates, Kendrick vs Joey would be a hell of a lot closer than the Drake beef was. Joey is respected by hip hop heads and doesn’t have the obvious character issues that Drake has. to be clear, he does NOT have the capacity to destroy Kendrick, but Joey would have a much better chance of surviving it with his respect intact.
This what keeping Hip Hop competitive looks like. He’s not clout chasing, he’s addressing everyone broadly and trying to bring some energy to the East Coast after the West just had a crazy year. No shots just throwing his glove in the ring and seeing who wants to compete 🤷🏿♂️
i can see that, he did the same thing with Control.
What crazy year did the west have outside of kendrick ?
@@DJDarkStrokes I feel like words don’t matter when people like you choose their meaning based on your feelings. This is 100% clout chasing. He’s coming out of nowhere to diss the man on top for absolutely no reason, completely unprovoked, at a time when he knows mentioning Kendrick will get reaction channels to put him in the title and thumbnail. Mfer’s doing gymnastics to avoid the obvious fact that this is the literal definition of clout chasing. And don’t give me the “hip hop is competitive” line, two things can be true.
Bro ain’t you Detroit you mid west asf💀😭
Man yall act like Joey ain’t drop Killuminati pt 2. I know yall ain’t really into hip hop like that
loving the uploads