The old town that is two years old - New Frankfurt Old Town

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • The area between the Cathedral (Dom or Kaiserdom) and Römerberg square in Frankfurt's historic city center ("Altstadt") used to be the oldest part of the city until it was destroyed in World War II. A small part of this Old Town was reconstructed (kind of...) and opened to the public in 2018. This is the "New Frankfurt Old Town" or Dom-Römer Project with 35 new buildings, some of which are reconstructions of the originals.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 48

  • @valopf7866
    @valopf7866 3 роки тому +30

    Hopefully they will rebuild more. Frankfurt was such a beautiful city. Also, its such a great experience walking from skyscraper area right next into the medieval old city of Frankfurt with its small alleys and streets. Such a great contrast.

    • @mark9294
      @mark9294 Місяць тому

      Absolutely, that’s what I love about Frankfurt. It’s such a unique blend

  • @williamtoner8674
    @williamtoner8674 3 роки тому +18

    Speaking as a British person who has lived in Germany I can't help but constantly be saddened by what we did to each others cities. Both in terms of human life but also the destruction of so much beautiful architecture and history. The medieval half of my home city was destroyed in the war and there was no attempt whatsoever to rebuilld anything. The 50s buildings have ruined the city forever. Judging from these pictures I'd say what they've done in your city in this square looks beautiful and tasteful. They haven't done it exactly the same so that they aren't trying to pretend something which isn't true but it looks like a lovely place to have a beer. cheers for the video

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 3 роки тому +6

      I think it's always an argument that is used against reconstructionists, that it would be like pretending something didn't happen .
      In my view it's a very stupid argument though because what is the USE of architecture, other than asthethics?
      There should be more reconstruction not less. Thanks for your comment.

    • @williamtoner8674
      @williamtoner8674 3 роки тому +3

      @@karlheven8328 To clarify what I mean; I don't think reconstructing old architecture is pretending that ww2 didn't happen. However I do think it is pretending something and I believe that architecture is about more than just visual appearance. One wouldn't, for example, create an exact replica on the Rome's colosseum in the middle of a modern city. Similarly it would be strange to produce a modern village of houses designed to look medieval. I think there's a form of deception in doing something like that. In this video I think a lovely balance is found.
      Of course I accept other people have different opinions. These old buildings do look very nice after all.

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 3 роки тому +2

      @@williamtoner8674 Architure is mostly about appearence though. The rest is just the function of it's utility, but that is always a given. And to be honest if ever god forbid anything happens to the great Colloseum it would be a crime against humanity not to rebuild it at least close to its original form. So I think there are situations where the architecture quality is so great that it should not be watered down because it is already too magnificent.
      But I agree with you that one has to sometimes balance different aspects to make certain architecture FIT IN better into the landscape and other houses around.

    • @jenshep1720
      @jenshep1720 Рік тому

      @@karlheven8328 to be honest, you could still rebuild here without reconstructing the old town. it'd be no sweat off anyones back to plan a new city quarter in modern architectural style, which is also beautiful if in a different way, and build that, and it'd probably be more useful. their arguments absolutely have a point.
      that said, i personally love traditional architecture and go nuts for good reconstructions. i love what theyre doing in berlin around museum island, in potsdam with the old market, dresden, etc. it just feels like making things right. and in many cases, there is practical use for it. reconstructing the city palace in berlin restored the architectural unity of museum island and the end of Unter den Linden. restoring the old market in potsdam gave them back their historical center. ive been to it yesterday and it literally took my breath away. dresden used to be called florence on the elbe, and if you now look at the river basin, you can once again tell why.
      im not entirely decided on it myself, i can see both sides, but its also not really erasing the past. new houses that are reconstructions of old ones are still very much and very visibly new. they are clearly identifiable, its not gonna fool anyone. and we today arent the people who committed the atrocities of the second world war. its our job to remember and make sure it never repeats itself, but does that mean that we cant rebuild?
      it comes down to how relevant we still perceive the events of ww2 to be at the end of the day. it was a break in civilization that is pretty much unrivaled in its horror. when you try to grasp that in any capacity, the only option you really have is to tear down everything thats left, wipe the slate clean, and begin completely from scratch. and ive held that opinion for a time, its just not possible to put into words.
      but what ive said before is also still true. and old architecture kicks butt. and doesnt our pre-war history deserve to get remembered too? because architecture is a visible record of history, its not just pretty. and probably a lot mroe accessible than historical texts.

    • @dagmarvandoren9364
      @dagmarvandoren9364 5 місяців тому

      Now i am crying as a berliner....so grateful that you say this....all this pain...and kulturel gesehen, I hre kuche. Looks like mine....same drawers thinking, draperies. The same!....yes the distruction was beyond words your history also...usa, cannot understand....founded german british....all t hede fights...great cities bombarded to the ground.....but skunkville idaho. Survived...its ok....peace please

  • @a.r.stellmacher8709
    @a.r.stellmacher8709 5 місяців тому +4

    I love the reconstructions. They should do more of this. And I don’t care what you think of it TC Jacobi. It is surely at least ten times better than what there was before.

  • @edgargermaniaherre7213
    @edgargermaniaherre7213 Рік тому +5

    I don't care what you people are saying the area looks fascinating and in a very close days it will be full of shops and restaurants

  • @KeinAlias1995
    @KeinAlias1995 3 роки тому +13

    The new Old City Center from Frankfurt is wonderful! Great place to be! :o)

  • @miketackabery7521
    @miketackabery7521 Рік тому +4

    All the intellectualizing and philosophical arguments are useful, but finally...
    it's a lovely and charming place. And isn't that enough? I think so.

  • @jameshannum7270
    @jameshannum7270 3 роки тому +13

    Pre-war European city centers had buildings very close together & several stories high, making the cities DENSE. That means they are walkable. Narrow streets also increase density, and also prevent cars from going fast. These are cities built for people.

    In modern city centers buildings are very far apart & only one story high, making the cities SPRAWLED OUT. This means everything is too far apart for pedestrians to walk. Multi-lane streets allow for greater numbers of cars, and at greater speeds, which further reduces walkability. These are cities built for cars.
    The differences between these 2 types of cities are no accident, they are intentional. The oil & automobile corporations donate gigantic sums of money to politicians, who in turn pass local & federal laws requiring or subsidizing car infrastructure (sprawl). The people who live in modern huge buildings in city centers, and in suburban sprawls, don't like it. Out their front doors in the suburbs are only empty sidewalks, cars, & R-1 zoning laws that prohibit all shops, cafes, etc in residential areas. Thus everything is too far away from their house to walk to, & they must drive. This is planned this way, to maximize the profits of the oil & auto companies!
    To see any beauty at all suburbanites must spend $Thousands to vacation in beautiful pedestrian European centers.
    YES they should build more of these small, 6 story, beautiful & unique buildings with narrow streets & small squares. One doesn't need a big flat to be happy. Be modest, live small, live among quality & beauty. And live as a pedestrian. The money you'll save on not having a car is substantial.
    An automobile is an expensive, dangerous, unpaid high stress part time job to drive, environmentally destructive, and disrupts, disperses, and destroys compact pedestrian communities. Raus mit dem Auto!

  • @MagyarManXLT
    @MagyarManXLT 4 роки тому +7

    Very interesting! It's always fascinating when cities try to walk the line between modernizing and staying traditional. Great discussion!

    • @geesehoward700
      @geesehoward700 3 роки тому +4

      The trouble with most modern buildings is they are incredibly ugly

  • @zorngottes1778
    @zorngottes1778 5 місяців тому +1

    Das eigentliche Problem ist nicht, dass Altes durch Neues ersetzt wird sondern dass Gutes durch Schlechtes ersetzt wird. Unfähige Architekten möchen vermeiden, dass alte Gebäude trotz damals mangelnder Mittel als besser erkannt werden.

  • @user-qm7nw7vd5s
    @user-qm7nw7vd5s 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice channel. Look at all those views already! Frankfurt, the so called “black sheep” of German cities (presumably because of all the skyscrapers) is one of my favorite! 👍

  • @kurtmayer489
    @kurtmayer489 3 роки тому +7

    Disneyworld is no habitable architecture. But this is..

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 3 роки тому +17

      "Disneyworld" is just a strawman used against reconstruction.

  • @Austin8thGenTexan
    @Austin8thGenTexan 10 місяців тому +1

    No one will forget about the Nazis or World War II, no matter what is built or rebuilt. Frankfurt is usually merely an airport hub for most of us traveling, but I would stay a couple of nights and spend some money there to see this feature. And and, it will eventually become old, too!

    • @LukasZ_77
      @LukasZ_77 5 місяців тому

      this ! these new bulidings if they stay of course will be old too in hundreds of years...

  • @zorngottes1778
    @zorngottes1778 5 місяців тому +1

    Bauregeln sind nur Regeln. Man kann sich fragen zu welchem Zweck und zu wessen Nutzen sie tatsächlich geschaffen werden.

  • @hannan3487
    @hannan3487 10 місяців тому

    thank you! Super English and German

  • @ragazzaverdedeifiordi451
    @ragazzaverdedeifiordi451 3 роки тому

    Subscribed. I haven’t been to Frankfurt for some years. Can’t wait to see it! Thanks for your videos

  • @zorngottes1778
    @zorngottes1778 5 місяців тому

    Auch wenn es eine Kulisse ist, diese Kulisse schafft die Vebindung zu den eigenen absichtsvoll abgetrennten Wurzeln.

  • @edmundflett474
    @edmundflett474 3 роки тому

    Fantastic video TC, thanks so much!

  • @pacof7768
    @pacof7768 6 місяців тому

    Lo cierto es que la construccion de edificios alrededor de una catedral tiene dos opciones, o dejas que los especuladores se dedique a construir bloques de viviendas que destrocen el ambiente que rodea un monumento, o imponer la reconstruccion de las casas que habia antes de la destruccion por bombas de aviacion, y cuando esto no es posible obligar a que se ajusten a un estilo similar a las reconstridas, el caso de Dresden es una demostracion del exito del segundo sistema, en cambio Berlin es un ejemplo del fracaso del primer metodo.

  • @magnetronicmusic
    @magnetronicmusic 3 роки тому

    Thank you, very interesting summary of this place history. Maybe some similar concept movie from the old town in Dresden? :)

  • @nowhereman8564
    @nowhereman8564 3 роки тому +5

    This is because bomber Harris, I can't understand bombing old towns no stratigical

    • @amygould4242
      @amygould4242 3 роки тому +3

      Lets not kid ourselves the only “strategy” that came from bombing old towns was erasing german heritage. It wasnt much different than what germany did to poland or the netherlands. The british and americans just took it to the extreme. Its quite sad as germany had the most beautiful cities in europe before the war

    • @nowhereman8564
      @nowhereman8564 3 роки тому +4

      @@amygould4242 it makes me cry when I see cities like Dresden, Leipzig, Berlin, koln, have a look at old videos of these cities it's mind blowing architecture the top of the art and civilisation, very very sad

    • @kentrosaurusboi3909
      @kentrosaurusboi3909 Рік тому

      That's funny, "bomber harris" was over Dresden not Frankfurt.

    • @u.p.1038
      @u.p.1038 Рік тому +1

      @@kentrosaurusboi3909 Harris was in command of all RAF bomber forces since 1942. He also bombed Frankfurt.

  • @a.r.stellmacher8709
    @a.r.stellmacher8709 5 місяців тому

    I have to apologise because you actually didn’t reveal your personal opinion about the reconstructions. Should have watched it right to the end before commenting on it.

  • @dailydoseofsunshine2319
    @dailydoseofsunshine2319 2 роки тому +1

    Britian should pay for the reconstruction

    • @gramophonebelgium5790
      @gramophonebelgium5790 Рік тому

      And Germany will pay for British, Belgian, French, Polish, Norwegian, Czech, ... reconstruction.

    • @wanderschlosser1857
      @wanderschlosser1857 4 місяці тому

      I think it's safe to say that this isn't a very well thought through suggestion.

  • @mariankramer267
    @mariankramer267 3 роки тому +1

    rothenburg ob der tauber is NOT known for its reconstructions. About 80% survived the war and is original. I don´t know where you got this information from, maybe you mean the other rothenburg?

    • @tcjacobi9275
      @tcjacobi9275  3 роки тому +3

      The sources I used stated that 40 to 45 percent of the old town were destroyed in an air raid in march 1945. Wikipedia gives similar figures. What is special about Rothenburg o.d.T. is that the city government decided to reconstruct the buildings that had been destroyed, rather than building new modern buildings.

    • @chriswalker4370
      @chriswalker4370 Рік тому +3

      @@tcjacobi9275 Agreed. I've seen the arial shots of R odT after the war and about 50% of it was destroyed. Fortunately, not the oldest bit. But you wouldn't know it today unless you REALLY knew where to look.
      Frankfurts Old Town was one of the greatest German city losses of the war. They should rebuild the Salzhaus for a start, that would be a nice little project. Hopefully though, this all gathers momentum and at least gets the street grid back. It'll never feel authentic (go to Regensburg for that, the biggest largely unbombed city), but the more reconstructions the better.

  • @zorngottes1778
    @zorngottes1778 5 місяців тому +2

    Ich denke gerade an Schinkels Bauakademie, deren demokratisch beschlossener Wiederaufbau anscheinend durch eine linke Bau- und Politmafia verhindert wird.

  • @dirkhardy3489
    @dirkhardy3489 Рік тому +1

    New Disney Land

    • @robertusthemac
      @robertusthemac Рік тому +7

      Better Disneyland than soulless, dehumanizing brutalism

    • @a.r.stellmacher8709
      @a.r.stellmacher8709 5 місяців тому +1

      @@robertusthemac Totally agree. They should do more reconstructions.