Michi X3 VS Yamaha and Hegel!?
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X Marks the Spot? Michi X3 Review
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I’ve been thru a lot of amps including McIntosh, Yamaha and Hegel. The Michi puts all of them to shame. It’s extremely well made and the sound is amazing.
I have a pair isodynamic Magneplanar type speakers. I'm very undecifed about the Rotel Michi X3 or the Hegel H390. He listened to Hegel H390? I ser pairings of Hegel with isodynamic online. How Will It match the Michi?
Is the Michi Warm or neutral ?
Hi guys. I have had the B&W 702 s3 since december 2022. Had the Hegel H190 paired and allways hade the feeling that something was missing. Bought the Michi X5 Series 2. My God. I Know. Big difference in power but how the higher notes just eased out from beeing harsh and how much more base is coming out is tremendous. Now I am longing home to my listening room every day instead of trying to find excuses not to listen.
Paired with which speakers?
Should go well with the Focal Sopra’s 😊
after sitting and actually listening too many amps/speakers/etc finally went for the x3. It wasnt available so they gave me the x5 for a small amount more. The x3 and x5 are the most honest sound you are ever gonna get :)
How's the Michi one month later?
I have the X5 since 4 month with ELACs Concentro S507...just awesome power!!! Love it
@@gerihifi Hi Gerald. How do you find the DAC in the X5?
@@patrickctleung8555 it is okay, but typical AKM based analytical, as I assume Rotel didn't spent so much effort to bring in the best DAC, BUT it is for sure very well sound. I use an external DAC (Weiss 501). For watching TV I use the Rotel DAC, works very well, with good speakers, pretty awesome, not need of 5.x 7.x channel..
@@gerihifi Does this amp play well at lower to moderate volume or does it need to be cranked up to be a good listen?
Great review, thanks for sharing... Would it be worth going up to the Michi X5 which offers more power than the Hegel H590 and is like half the price? Or is the X3 literally a very nice sweet spot to start with for some good floor standing reference grade speakers? And is the Hegel sound warmer or as neutral as the Michi's?
X3 is plenty for most people, unless you have a larger room or very power hungry speakers that would be my choice. Or if you just want the larger more power X5 amplifier just because that's fine too lol
Your review was great! Give one a better comparison than most other reviews. However, when reviewing an integrated with phono and DAC, it should be important to review these features as it is a big part of the cost and value decision to get either full featured or basic amp.
Fantastically helpful. I’ve been trying Accuphase, Hegel, Burmester, Rega and Naim amps over the last few days. I’m trying the Michi X3 and X5 tomorrow.
@colin5577 I would love to hear your findings on the different amps you have been trying, including the Michi range. I am on a similar upgrade path, replacing a very decent all-in-one Gold Note IS-1000 with something more powerful than the 125wpc it offers. Been looking at Accuphase, Hegel, NAD M33, and Michi. Unfortunately, due to my location I can only audition easily the NAD M33. Thanks in advance!
Colin, can you please share your impressions. I cannot get any meaningful demo where I live.
@@sapkan7879 Sure. It’s highly, highly subjective, but what I have found is as follows. Firstly, the amps have all been tried using Bowers and Wilkins 804 D4s and D5s. I slightly preferred the D5s, but bought the D4s because I got a great deal on them, they look nicer, work better in my room and create a much bigger, beefier soundscape than the D5s, even if it’s slightly less sparkly and well balanced. I also tried ProAc K1s and have nothing bad to say about those… they’re better than the B&Ws in some respects IMO.
Amps?
Michi… huge disappointment. Both X3 and X5. I really wanted one of these to be my amp. They were both on a great special offer and I think they look great. Neither sounded in any way special to me. Flat, boring sound that wasn’t well refined. I didn’t think they did well in the upper, mid or low ranges and I couldn’t find anything they did well enough to stop me dismissing them both.
Hegel… better than the Michi, but again… I found its performance uninspiring. Just meh.
Macintosh…. I had a good go at the MA352. It looks incredible, there was an ex-demo unit that I could have had at a knock down price, Macintosh have a great name and I would have been thrilled to have had one driving my speakers with all of its lovely chrome and valves. But…. I thought it sounded hopeless. Fantastic bass, so-so mid range performance and hopelessly messy and unresolved top mid and top end. Every now and again, it was brilliant, but mostly it sounded a bit pants. I was gutted.
Naim? I bought a Mu-so (brilliant) and am getting an NDX2 for streaming (best I can afford at the minute), so love Naim gear, but didn’t try any of their high end amps. I couldn’t find any to try and those amp products that I did try in the Atom and Unity weren’t great.
Burmester… the 032 is amazing. Lovely, lovely, lovely amp. Utterly brilliant. But expensive. I didn’t try the 082 as it probably isn’t up to driving 804 D4s.
Accuphase. I’m not even that super keen on how they look, but Jesus…. They punch way, way, way above their weight. I don’t know what they do in their lab as they make and test these things, but… for what they cost… to me anyway… they’re fantastic. Not perfect, but close enough for what I’m willing to spend. I had thought I’d get away with an E-380, but they had to work too hard to drive the 804s, so I had to go for an E4000. I didn’t want to buy an Accuphase particularly, but after 20-30 hours of listening to everything I could find in the £6,000-£15,000 range, Accuphase’s E380 and E4000 were the best equipment I listened to next to Burmester’s 032 and Gryphon’s Diablo 300. I thought the E4000 was almost on a par with the Burmester, but the E4000 is new and that 032 has been out for 10 years…I didn’t fancy blowing £15k on something overdue an update. The Gryphon was great, but I thought the Accuphase was more musical and made a nicer noise, even if it made less of it. At £9,000 the E4000 was a no brainier for me. It’s amazing. Again… I tried everything NOT to buy an Accuphase and went back 5 or 6 times to try an Accuphase next to something else. For me, it beat all comers time and time again. So it’s a retro champagne coloured box for me. 😑 There is genuine magic dust in it somewhere, though.
Edited to add… I did try some other bits along the way. A Dan D’Agostino amp here, B&W 804 D1s and some 700s there, Macintosh mono amps etc etc etc… but kept my comments to things I was actually considering buying and could afford. This stuff is MENTALLY expensive. Cables and power supplies alone could cost me well over £5k. So I listened to a lot of different stuff and spent a lot of time in studios testing my music, none of which was deranging jazz or a cigarette voiced lounge singer with a guitar. Lots of electronica, cinema scores, classical, metal, rock, pop etc… the equipment got properly worked out.
@@bgmule Sorry I didn’t respond to you…I didn’t get notified that you had commented. See my notes above. For whatever they’re worth. 🤗
@@colin5577 Thank you for the detailed feedback! A couple of surprises for me personally, I hoped to hear the Michi gear is well worth it…Accuphase seem to get something very right, I don’t recall hearing or reading a negative comment about their amps! Congratulations on your new amp, enjoy :)
The most organized back terminal layout I've seen on an integrated amplifier in a long time! 👌 BTW, I really like your approach to reviewing the time-domain performance. Thanks!! 👍
I agree 😉👍
I think this has the most WAF of the three integrated. Looks much better than the hegel.
Great video and when you say this might be for those who don't know what they want,for some reason resonated with me. The rear panel set up is nice and a simple front is good. This one really interested me. Good to see you back.
The Michi (road) seems like a brand new Japanese toll expressway. Well done, Rotel.
The first Rotel Michi is from the 90.
Staring at those Sapphires in the background is really making me crave that X5 review, with lots of sound samples hopefully included. 🙂
I am extremely happy with my X5, highly recommended!
@1:37 That USB port is almost lined up perfectly. Not a bad job considering the MSRP of the X3.
You hit the nail on the head. I don't have a clue of what I want! My apologies to online dealers, but I'm sending my second set of front end components back, more confused now than when I began.
I have a pair of isodymamics, 85 db, 6 ohm. Better Rotel Michi X3 or Hegel H390?
Hey Ron. Speaking of X: are you planning to post a review of the Spatial Audio X5?
I tested this amplifier against the H390 to make my final buying decision and went with the H390. I found the X3 to be slightly edgy in comparison to the H390 which wasn’t the sound I was after. Good amp, great build and remote, just didn’t draw me into the music like the H390 did.
I bought the X5 and it is quite smooth compared to the X3 :)
Thanks for the heads up. I’m torn between the same two amplifiers.
Maybi ask which speakers you used for demo?
@@SlicedBread1001 I have the Fyne Audio 502SP
@@jamessteedman5281 X5 or the H390 in your opinion?
@@themoistgreenorganic I didn't care for the H390, and I'm biased towards the X5 lol
At least you mentioned a MC SUT (moving coil step up transformer). MC SUT’s are not a dirty little secret. 🤫 They have the ability to not only raise the gain of an MC cartridge to suit MM input levels, but they also lower the noise far lower than all but the most expensive MC preamps, while also expanding the soundstage and relaxing the treble without losing detail. Not magic, just the result of a much lower noise floor. Transformers are passive and dead silent. High gain transistors at the microvolt level most assuredly are not. Especially when they are in the company of a high powered amp and huge power supply. They are little boxes with four jacks and no power supply. Even McIntosh saw the light where on their higher end phono stages, they use a MC SUT on their MC input. Excellent SUTs are available for a couple hundred bucks from companies such as K&K to name one. Just call the SUT manufacturer and make sure it’s a good match for your chosen MC cartridge.
This is the path that Sansui followed at the time of the AUX901, which was equipped with these transformers for MC cells!
That’s a lot of cash to spend for someone that doesn’t know what they want. I want to audition one now. Good to see you sounding healthy.
Maybe not if you want it to be your last audio electronics purchase.
Paused at 2.57. I own the Michi P5/S5 combo and was surprised by a couple of things on this video already. My P5 has MC and MM phono stage and it has stereo left/right channel sub outs. I noticed the x3 only has mono sub outs.
Anyway, on with the vid...
Finished, thanks for the great review, you always seem to be an honest straight shooter.
After watching it I'm sort of glad I spent up and got the dual DAC stages and Dual mono S5 poweramp. My female vocals are ridiculous.
How would you rate your experience with the Michi P5/S5 compared to other amps you know well?
The pre-out does the job to link up with my Focal Sopra SW1000 😊
Cool content and well done! I think hegel is more my ally but always appreciate diversity of products offered.
As far as the quality of the components and wiring is concerned, the Heigel is the last one, I think it gives a very low-end image, then comes the Yamaha which is more qualitative, and finally the Rotel which is very high end.
Image? What’s a low end image? Doesn’t sound like Hegel at all.
@@morespinach9832 I'm talking about the visual on the inside of the Heigel amps, the wiring is a bit messy!
@@dab9742 If you keep the cover attached, it's not a problem and doesn't affect sound quality.
@@Mark-rw3kw Electronics and electricity are influenced by physical dimensions/positioning.
@@CristianIorga That is true in that lack of attention to wiring and shielding can sometimes induce noise. But just because the wires are hidden doesn’t mean that are less prone to noise and Hegel amps are probably the quietest on the market.
Great review Ron. I really enjoy your approach. How does it perform with poorly recorded material? Thank you.
My father used to say, "You're hunting mice with hand grenades." Might be the same thought.
The Michi X3 is my dream amp to pair with my JBL HDI 3800’s 🔊🔊🔊
I have a Gato Audio AMP 150 which is made in Denmark... a nice and very good amplifier, the sound is on the same level as the Hegel 390 and the price is also very good.
Great review, bud. Pretty much what I figured so great to have some detailed impressions. That being said how good is the built in dac? Thanks Ron
Nothing to get thrilled about. It’s fine and probably on par with most integrated dacs but it ain’t no May DAC, that’s for sure!
The AKM DAC is great!
Buy a premium-level hi-res streamer as your source device and take advantage of its built-in high-end DAC...
I bought the X5 even more power plus moving coil phono setting .
how do you like your X5 ?
Thx for your continued efforts. Just looking around for my next journey with ATC speakers and looking at amp to match. Michi, Kinki, Kinki michi? Nice to hear the Layne and Neil references 🙏
Any idea about it driving 2ohm speakers? It states it’s 4ohm minimum….. H390 will drive 2ohm.
Hi Ron, I'm curious what would be your personal preference, pairing KEF Reference 1s with either an NAD M33 or Arcam SA-30?
I have a couple of Arcam + KEF Reference setups at home. I tried and liked the SA30 for a while and it did an admirable job, but really needed an external DAC to shine.
Amplifier reviews are pointless, you cannot say what an amp sounds like unless there is only one speaker in the world, amplifiers will sound different depending on what speaker is on the end of it, there are thousands of speakers out there, with thousands of different impedance, drivers and crossovers, therefore there is no standard, unless an amplifier is designed to pair with a specific pair of speakers then you are gambling your money. When a car is built, the designer puts in an engine that will work with the car, they don’t sell you an engine and then tell you to go find a car elsewhere until you find the one that works well with it, that would be nonsense. So, if you want to get the best from any amplifier, buy active speakers, they will have been designed to work together properly. Any stand alone amplifier can only work well with whatever speakers the designer used to listen to it with, and since there are thousands of different designs out there, chances of it matching is remote!
Michi amplifier are really awesome but it’s a pity that after two years there is still no adequate Michi streamer/cd player available!
Streamers and CD players are a dime a dozen.
Hey Ron what stereo rack do you use I see it's hardwood and multisectional ? 🤔
I built it, thanks!
@@Newrecordday2013 wow 👍
Thanks for this articulate review. Very helpful. 👍🏾
If this had streaming built in, I might have gone for it. It's so nice looking.
All you've described sounds actually
Like my Rotel ra-1572mkll
I WANT! but how long before a Michi CD or SACD player? x.
You should review a Rotel mkll series next! You'd be surprised how similar they sound to the Michi series.
I now have in my possession the Rotel RB-1552MKII and currently comparing it to the ELAC-Alchemy DPA-2 power amp. I love the warmth of the Rotel but find the ELAC more neutral/leaner and revealing. I have to decide which one I will return to the dealer...any thoughts would be appreciated?
It would be great if you would provide a list of tracks that you use for evaluation
If go against Denon PMA-A110 which is better?
I have the 1700 with 703 S2’s and for 5500 CAD total (speakers second hand) I could never have done better.
There is better. Way better. But after about 30 minutes, when the house is quiet, I’m hearing chairs squeak and finger nails tap the string beside the string they pluck. I love it. Highs are extended but not fatiguing. Mids are super clean, bass is only there if it’s in the recording.
I bet the a110 punches above the $5k cad class by at least $2000.
Especially considering the pma1700 keeps up with (and beats) the likes of the $4000 as1200.
i had the original 90s stereo amp michi RHB-10 in my system to demo it for a few weeks (about a year ago)and had very little to complain about true dual mono 10w of class A and finesses i wasn't expecting imaging and effortless scaling just jumped out of the speakers*(very high current capability something i have as a minimum feature in all amps i look for ) and a price that was hard to look away from..... however 802s and any mechanical noise are a nono, (hey its 30 yers old ) sad to send it back but it was great to have the experience and better then iv ever heard any rotel before or since , im sure this new stuff is capable but it will not offer the cost to performance ratios id hope for
NAD M33, Hegel H390, Michi X3.
Would really like to know what you think of the Lyngdorf 3400 with Room Perfect and compare them with the others.
Any chance for a review soon?
which of these ones?
@@japan4ever1 why not Lyngdorf 3400 vs Michi X3
Here in greece we dont have this amplifier in stores.thats why....
Can you please review musical fidelity M6si500
One look at the back of the amp and I knew I couldn't afford it lol.
You congratulated yourself on a good question. Nice.
No streamer built in
No mc facility
Yet powerful clean sound
Was this the series 1? Probably given the date.
Hi Ron, what abt the kinki studio EX M1+
how does it compare to the Musical Fidelity m8xi??
With any integrated you can expect corners to be cut in various places like in the DAC but at this price point the mediocre phono stage sticks out like a sore thumb. Either do it right or leave it out during the design phase. Throw in a second set of balanced inputs.
Thank you @NRD for your review and great work!
As a satisfied owner of the Michi X3, the comment about Roon certification made my ears prick up. According to the Rotel website, the X3 is only certified for roon aptX?
Can I use the X3 directly via the Internet port (RJ45) as a Roon Endpoint? Does not work for me yet, glad about a solution :-).
Maybe by now, you could upgrade your kit to the new series 2 level?
So, it would work well with a pair of Magnepan 1.7i's?
Supremely well. Maggies are a bear to drive and demand lots of current at 4 ohms. The Michi has that and more. Maggies don’t need any tonal editing and the neutrality of the Michi hits the sweet spot. Enjoy!
Nice review, thanks!
Hello from Russia! Will be glad to receive Michi X3 :)
Awesome review, love your work.
I would get the Michi p5 and a Hegel amp the dac on the Michi p5 is nice.
Any idea on the output of the MM phono? They're are some MC carts that play nicely on MM. Benz Micro Silver comes to mind.
Have compared the X5 to the h390 Denon pma 2500ne and rotel 1592.
The Hegel H390 was clearly the better amp. My friend who owned the X5 was quite stunned by the difference. He had both amps at home for a while to test them to.
As you says in the end x3 is for audiophiles who don't know what they want. My advice is save your money till you know or could test. The x3 is overpriced.
Hegel's build quailty is ridiculous in comparison to Denon.
The new X5 series 2 beats the h390 hands down...
I wish it had hdmi eArc along with subwoofer out
Use line level to subs
It’s not an ht amp
Anyone played the michi line on monitor audio speakers? I have gx200 gold (prev version).
Currently on an older Marantz av8003 (using just 2 channel)
Thanks about the innuos-I have it and the reclocker and it would be a deal breaker
Will it match Magnepan? Thanks
Absolutely
@@Newrecordday2013 Thanks for the answer. I am planning to but magnepan rls or 0.7 or 1.7. Still not sure what amp. Seems it may be a good candidate.
Cupcake says: it does not beg the question. It may suggest the question, prompt the question, raise the question. But not beg it. To “beg the question” means to commit an informal logical fallacy.
Your 8th grade grammar students are waiting for you.
Dear New Record Day, I'm Alisa from Deenkee Robot Vacuum Company, I emailed you, but I haven't heard back from you. I really look forward to your checking my mail.
Nice editorial.
Any x3 owners out there know if this thing can do AV Bypass?
Yes it does, but slightly different than others as all inputs can be set to a fixed setting and you can choose the level. I use to own the X3 and Rotel told me 79 was the unity gain setting.
@@Turkish1480 Thanks Turkish
@@Turkish1480 Did you find x3 a good sounding unit for money? Had you ever compared it to marantz reference series? (pm10 or ruby). Thanks
@@gmamou6862 I owned the PM10 for a little bit, but had some problems with the volume knob so I returned it. I have owned a lot of integrated amps and this is my favorite along with the Krell K-300i at $9,500. I actually have mine up for sale on USAudioMart as I need the money to finish up some house projects that are going over budget.
My biggest gripe is they are not a streaming endpoint/roon endpoint. X3 and P5 At this price and spec point... why not just include it!! Just like the MC phono.
I agree
I'd bet that more potential buyers will want the streaming features. As for the added phono gain, MC has too many variables vs. MM.
@@Newrecordday2013 The Michi intergradeds and P5 are now Roon Certified :)
It doesn’t matter to me since I plan to connect my amazing sounding Atoll ST300 Signature dual mono pre-amp / streamer (which is fully ROON compatible) as a digital source to the X3 Series 2. Could try it out as a transport only and compare the sound of the X3 S2’s ESS 9028 with the Atoll’s dual DAC chip, as an option.
Please review Musical Fidelity M8xi
Use X3 in Russia and, though I do not appreciate your joke about Russia, the review itself is quite accurate.
Good to see you back, brother! Rock on!
Здравствуйте! Я не понял - зачем Вы хотите отправить усилитель в Россию? Или переводчик плохо переводит или юмор я не понял )
Can someone please explain to me how an amplifier can make the top end "brighter, more forward" or the low end "more emphasized" when amps do not affect frequency response(assuming a normal output impedance)? The mids aren't being sucked out on a "brighter treble" amp, nor is the treble level increased. So what is it?
Probably has to do with the capacitors
@@ericschulze5641 Why do you say that? How so?
I have owned no fewer than 25 amps ranging from $500 to $7000 and every one of them has its own unique sonic character. Some warm, some bright, and some in between.
As Mike S says I’ve owned 6 amplifiers from 500 to 6000 (albeit AV) and no two has sounded the same, even when in direct mode and all processing disabled.
@@SlicedBread1001 Sighted tests done after researching, watching reviews/opinions, and then spending your money can certainly make it seem so. I won't discount that. When you want to find miniscule changes, you may find them. But when it comes to the little testing that has been done in a more controlled environment, there are no notable differences. If the amp has a low output impedance, high input impedance, low distortion and noise, it will sound the same as others with those qualities. I do fully believe that you hear a difference despite this. Our minds do that to us.
Now I'm hungry for a cupcake
2nd the best!! =P ( if we are still doing this silly comment race )
The Michi build is really nice and better than Hegel. Hegel does sound better IMO
“Cupcake” 😂
anybody playing records at this price point ... uses a seperate amp... nobody uses an integrated mm/mc input 😂
You have one in Russia, I have x3 and I’m from Moscow. Ha ha )))
i guess there aren't many flies to pick out of the horse turd. lol
Yamaha!
Suona meglio
Cupcake!
😊 ｐｒｏｍｏｓｍ
Repeat after me. It's pronounced, me-she. Not mit-chē.
Wrong.
Me-chee I thought it was
I don't want to buy step up transformers so I will buy an entire Phono pre-amp. That does not make sense to me to be honest. But talking about Russia whilst reviewing an audio amplifier really does not make sense. Dude, stick with the topic, if I want a politics video I know how to find it.
Thanks for the feedback and comment, I can see where you are coming from.
@@Newrecordday2013 Thanks for not getting triggered, and I appreciate your answer :)
No, I almost took it out for the very reason you mentioned. I get it man!
@@Newrecordday2013 Forget that, Ron! Speak your mind. If someone loves Putin so much that they're triggered you're probably better off without them to be honest.
Dear Ron. First I respect your work with this channel. But I advice you to read, to study ( as you do on hi-fi field) or to check out on YT some balanced views of experts on this matter, about geo-political reasons - documented, historical agreements, between US/Nato and Russia so you will get more clear hi-fi picture what is origin of evil with situation in Europe and Ukraine. I do not support any war, but I also do not support any huge weapon concentrations and I hope you do neither, except If you think that US with Nato can do anythnig they want on the world to anyone. Perhaps, if you learn more you will get Woow factor. Kind regards from Europe.
That’s totally fair, thanks for sharing your opinion.
@@Newrecordday2013 Thank You. I wish you all best and keep on with your channel. It s a good one 👍👌😉
I had a chance to listen to Michi top gear - preamp + amp, but through B&W 802 D4 speakers and I was dissapointed. Not for my ears at all - speakers. I guess Michi is OK., or even great, because of details I heard, and that was only interesting thing for me, everything other was sonicaly so strange for my ears... Also had listened to Marantz gear with B&W 6's bookshelf speakers... I know Marantz gear from other systems but this experience was horrible, harsh, unlistenable for me. Worst of all, piano had an dry, iron-ish sound on both systems. Not for me at all and I think totaly untrue to natural sound, tonality,timbre of instrumets. I listened jazz on both systems. Maybe are B&W OK for home cinema, for stereo not at all for my taste. So becuse I disliked this speakers so much, I can not comment on Michi and I am sorry for that.
No. You are rationalizing a crazed dictator attacking a free country with no provocation. Europe tried appeasing Hitler before WW2 and we all (hopefully) know what that accomplished.
@@Gary_M And you are rationalizing US aggressions, provications al arround the world? When US and Nato exports "democracy" to countires arround the world in fact there are just imperial, expolitation interests of global corporate industry especially US war machine industry and their crazy doings in a name of "national interst and seciurity".
No provocation??
Tell me, how did US react when Soviets were putting up a rocket base in Cuba?? Were they rational or provocated by this and in a state of total alert?? But Cuba is 1500 miles away from the Sates? Why to worry? US also had a crazy dictator runing a country back then??
Media brainwashing... what else to say...
@@Gary_M And this is Ron's channel about hi-fi enthusiasm, and he is with all his ears and heart with this so I will say no more about this issue. Respect.
Both amplifiers are abysmal audio quality including poor circuit quality design compared to the best of the 90,s amplifiers, never mind we are in 2022. Rotel has also poor substandard signal seperatation for just one thing never mind the rest, and the hegal is also a poor quality substandard design that also suffers from distortion artifacts. These two companies amplifiers have totally abysmal amplifiers and circuitry and sound quality performance to say we are in 2022. Expensive audio rubbish is what they both are. Wouldn't touch either of these companies with a barge pole, and would not waste hard earned money on either companies products. Neither do they have any sort of musical reproduction that offer any resemblance to any realistic sound rendering of true natural realistic sound quality. A lot of Audio companies today in 2022 need a reality check for the expensive audio rubbish that comes from their audio facilities, which in my eyes is totally unacceptable to say we are in 2022, that might have been acceptable in the 90's for even some of the top audio electronics companies, but we are not in the 90's we are in 2022, in my eyes this is disgusting to say the least. Reviews and reviewers need their heads shaken up quite a lot, because a large majority of audio components and companies are still just pure junk today.
i may agree with you at an 80%, but which are the best hifi brands for you?
Swing and and miss
One and Done....
Snakes hissing here.
LoL... your a gem.... I like your take on hifi from Down Under..🎶🔊🦘