I've stayed at the Platterhof many times in the mid-80's, when it was the Gen. Walker, run by the US Army. Even got to take a tour of the bunker system under the hotel, which connected to the rest of the network of bunkers under many of these homes and buildings. At the time, many of the ruins of these buildings were still standing in the woods down the slope from the hotel. The easiest to visit was the old Gastehaus (guest house), which was right next to the hotel's mini golf course. I have some bits of tile I looted from there as a kid. Dad and I also made the hike down to visit the remains of the Berghof. There wasn't much more than than stone section seen to the lower right from the main building. I think it was the garage. We poked around there some and liberated a brick, which my folks still have and use as a door stop.
I got to stay at the General Walker once when I was stationed in Germany in the 11th ACR. It's such a shame they tore all that down and even more of a shame that I hardly got any pictures of it.
I went to the Berghof site, and it's still incredibly eerie to stand exactly where the Fuhrer had stood. It's like going to a lost world, very haunting indeed
Last week visited Berchtesgaden, Obersalzberg, Kehlstainhaus. Saw all the sites and ruins, camped out the night few hundred meters under Eagle's nest. Went up with the bus, took golden elevator ride, had coffee and apfelstrudel in Eagle's nest. After that 2 days at Zell am See, camping and swimming in the lake, also had coffee in Grand Hotel.
Hard to believe looking back this existed and happened. And I now it did as my dad was there in 43-45 (miss you dad). May we never forget how easily it is for a country to be led in such a way and that our Founding Father's gave everything as did my dad's generation to insure our freedom.
Speer didnt think too much of the design that placed the garage below the huge opening window, putting gasoline and exhaust fumes into the famous big room
I think the design of the Berghoff was all screwed up! The big room what's a retractable window should be in the center of the house and the grand stair case should have come up to the center of the terrace.! The garage should have been behind the Berghoff not in front! In my opinion poorly designed?
There are already some very good and extensively researched videos about the Berghoff and the Obersalzberg. They are an inestimable source, both historical and pictorial of the place.
Hitler himself ordered the Berghof to be blown up before the Americans occupied the site. The SS carried out the order in good time. After the war, the estate was nothing more than a burnt ruin. To prevent this ruin from becoming a shrine for neo-Nazis and Hitler worshippers, the Bavarian state decided in the 1950s to blow up and clear away the remains of the Berghof. That was a good decision! It was just a building and not even a historic one. Nothing good happened within its walls.
Mark Felton send me here What an amazing video and learning other things I did not know. AH had impeccable style and taste that withstand the test of time.
Having been fortunate enough to visit the Obersalzburg twice I can attest that it is a magical area with the beautiful mountains, small shops and great restaurants. It's a unique historical area as well if you are a student of WWII history although not much remains of that period today. There are traces of the Berghof left and the Hotel Zum Turken remains as well. in addition the train station built by the Nazi's remains and of course the beautiful Khelstein house. (Eagles nest)
Just once I wish one of these things would define exactly what "the Obersalzberg" means. Area? Region? Town? Mountain? What defined "the Berghof"? the house itself? The compound? I've watched numerous vids and read numerous books and not one ever defines exactly what is meant by these terms. There are others that escape me right now.
Well, thats actually pretty easy to describe. The Obersalzberg is a mountain. It translates to "Upper Salt Mountain" Ober = Upper, Salz = Salt, Berg = Mountain. there is also the Untersalzberg which translates to "Lower Salt Mountain" and that is below the Obersalzberg. The Berghof is just one of the many buildings on the Obersalzberg. Berghof translates to Mountain Estate. Berg = Mountain, Hof = Estate Hope this helps :)
My son and I stayed at the Turkin around 2005 when it was owned and operated by Frau Sharfenberg (sp). We spent a pleasant evening talking with her. To be honest, we were trying to get her drunk. She had stories of various people like Gunsche (sp) who carried the body of Hitler from the bunker. He knocked on her door some time in the 60s .... staying there for some days. He told her stories, and the people who had been the housekeepers of the Berghoff also told her stories. She said she would take all that information to her grave, which I believe she did. No matter what books you read or UA-cam videos you watch, there are still things the general public will never know. After sleeping in the Turkin, my son and I took the walk that Hitler took often. And it was a bit spooky .... like a ghost from the past invaded my being. I looked in the mirror within our rental car. It was as if someone else's eyes were looking back at me. That era of the 30s & 40s was filled with wonder, cruelty, and things that most people would not begin to understand. I felt a bit like a moth to the flame while there.
It's been my goal since I was eight to some day visit Obersalzburg and explor the system. I have researched the tunnels and buildings extensively and have a wealth of knowledge on the area. One day l will see for myself. ❤💯 HISTORY
I was just relaying what Frau Sharfenberg (sp) told my son and I. She did not say how many times Gunsche had visited there, just about the first time he knocked on her door there at the Turkin. Her grandfather was the one the Nazis (Bormann) forced to sell. After the war she insisted the property be returned to her family. From what I read the building & property is now owned by someone else who is renovating it.
Lloyd George was Welsh. He is the first and only British PM to have been able to speak Welsh as a first language and english as second. He is buried in his home village of Llanystumdwy in North Wales, UK
Siempre que veo estos videos tan fascinantes lo agradezco mucho, pero también siento una gran indignación y coraje por qué fue destruido. Sería fascinante que se hubiera conservado y poder visitarlo, de cualquier manera gracias nuevamente por tan excelente video ,pues al menos lo podemos disfrutar visualmente.
I forgot to add it. It is Herbert Doehring speaking. He was Hitlers House & Property administrator on the Berghof for 8 years. I have added a link to the complete interview in the video description.
Lt. Welsh: "Eerie...not even any natives..." Captain Nixon: "That's because this is the one town you can't deny being a true Nazi." Lt. Welsh: "What do you mean?" Captain Nixon: "Because you have to be to live here..." -Band of Brothers
Actually there was a "Kegelbahn" in the basement and the game was not classic bowling but "Kegeln". Main differences are no holes in the balls (they´re also smaller) and nine instead of ten pins.
I have never seen many of these pictures and videos of Hilter's mountain retreat. The setting is spectacular but my God ..he needed a better interior decorator. Some of it Reminded me of Wagner's villa in Bayreuth...dark..heavy..and cumbersome..
And behind this impressive facade of normality, an immense and deep hell in the bowels of the master of evil for millions of innocent people killed, murdered, gassed and burned !!
Architecturally the exterior is just ok. The interiors are bland, and uninspired. Very boring. The vaulted ceilings or the coffered wood ceiling are yawn. It's neither warm and inviting or awe inspiring and imposing. I guess you'd be polite and say how wonderful mein fuhrer, but having it bombed and burned out was no loss to architecture. There's really nothing there. Design by a fourth year high school draughting student. B-
Looking at artefacts of another era with 21st century eyes completely distorts the view and makes one's opinion of very low factual, intellectual and architectural value, those who were there at that time had visual references completely different to our own today and no computers to express their very personal opinion, trying to make it read like an established matter of fact when in reality, equating a renown architect to a fourth grade student has nothing to do whatsoever with objectivity, architecture or reality.
Having a great affinity for and an extensive knowledge of the architecture of the period I can say that my opinion is based on the design of the house and not it's owner. It's not ground breaking for the period in any way. Its one trick pony, the living room window is a whoop de do. The furniture is bland, the textiles are meh. I'd draw your attention to the significantly better works of Mies Van de Rohe, le Corbussier, CFAVoysey, CRMackintosh. Even FLWright did better work in his toilet after a night binging on tacos and refried beans. The Berghof is just an exercise by a lack luster draughtsman with a limited understanding, no finesse, and an big ego.
@@andrewmacgregor8717 Still, just an opinion, one sole voice, neither backed by numerous shared 21th century opinions, or any known criticism by those who actually visited the place in the context it was conceived and used and the cast of characters that populated it. Question: Do all those who have an extensive knowledge of the architecture of the period use trick pony, whoop de do, bland or meh in their professional evaluations? And do they all agree that even FLWright did better work in his toilet after a night binging on tacos and refried beans? And when you say that your opinion is based on the design of the house and not it's owner, you are so not credible, any valid, unbiased critic would balance like and don't like, pros and cons, positive and negative, let me show you: "The living room window is a whoop de do... but the view is incredible." See, that's objectivity, your comments are unilateral, negative and your disgust or anger or prejudice, call it what you will, is much closer to the surface than you think. Therefore, you may have an extensive knowledge all you want, there is no reason whatsoever for me to believe a single word you say, Frank Lloyd Wright's tacos and refried beans don't make the cut.
Put aside any preoccupation with the occupants and the 21st Century perspective. My view is based solely on the comparison of this work with other contemporary works. There isn't a coherent thread to the interior design. A story to be told in architecture, like music, poetry or a good novel. This was important to the architects I mentioned before. The Berghof was just a hash of different ideas (tropes) assembled under one roof. It demonstrates an immaturity in design understanding and didn't bring anything new to the art. It was a venue for significant historic certainly but easily dismissed as you would dismiss a Hollywood studio back lot. It's really not worth getting into the merits of Austrian knotty pine, embroidery patterns, coffered ceiling and imposing steps and how they were used to establish pecking order.
@@andrewmacgregor8717 Pecking order? Are you talking about a house or are you projecting thoughts and a type of personality on the master of the house based on pure speculation that parades as reality, covered by broken pieces from the winners' version, another charade that was created for public consumption, that most believe to be true because they were born on one side of the border rather than the other for whom evidence, research and objectivity have ceased to be part of the processes of making valid accusations, and forming a coherent opinion. That good and evil, black and white, cowboy and Indians version of the events of vWW2 was/is a sanitized necessity for the allies, to keep the hangman away but to keep the fiction alive it also requires an enemy so evil, that in order to beat him, "sometimes you have to use some evil tactics, in order to defeat a greater evil". and that's exactly what happened after the end of the war, Hitler's evil has been used up to this day to validate the creation and the survival of a state and to keep the people of Germany on their knees, humiliated and to prevent them from telling what was done to them because that would put their good guy image in serious danger, that's why they are still under foreign occupation and why their politicians seem to mostly go against the will of the people, they don't work for the people. Anyway, your words make your emotions and your opinions almost come out of the page and message after message, your incapacity to say even one good word about the house and its inhabitants speak louder than whatever nonsense you're throwing at us.
I've stayed at the Platterhof many times in the mid-80's, when it was the Gen. Walker, run by the US Army. Even got to take a tour of the bunker system under the hotel, which connected to the rest of the network of bunkers under many of these homes and buildings.
At the time, many of the ruins of these buildings were still standing in the woods down the slope from the hotel. The easiest to visit was the old Gastehaus (guest house), which was right next to the hotel's mini golf course. I have some bits of tile I looted from there as a kid.
Dad and I also made the hike down to visit the remains of the Berghof. There wasn't much more than than stone section seen to the lower right from the main building. I think it was the garage. We poked around there some and liberated a brick, which my folks still have and use as a door stop.
You saw the garage, demolished in the 1990s.
I got to stay at the General Walker once when I was stationed in Germany in the 11th ACR. It's such a shame they tore all that down and even more of a shame that I hardly got any pictures of it.
I stayed in 1983, and it was the second time for my wife and in-laws.
Former occupants and politics aside, it's a crying shame that such beautiful, functional residences were summarily destroyed.
Ditto that...
That's just it. BECAUSE OF THE FORMER RESIDENT and its use as a war locale, it HAD to be destroyed.
I would live there scenery is so beautiful especially at the kehlstein house
Who wouldn't ? 🌳🌲🏔⛰🗻🌄
You are welcome 🙂
Referred here from Mark Feltons website. Have subbed. ;)
Two new videos in a week??! Thank you so much ... we missed you!
I went to the Berghof site, and it's still incredibly eerie to stand exactly where the Fuhrer had stood. It's like going to a lost world, very haunting indeed
The "painting" that could be folded up was a huge tapestry.
Hitlers 1910 painting?!
Absolutley incredible and top notch work, as always. My only complaint was it is not 3 hours long and more detailed:)
That would be too dark 🕶️
that narration deep voice is just so spot on to this historical info-footage, thank you 🙂 very interesting 🙂
Mark Felton brought me here. Looking forward to all of your history exploration.
Last week visited Berchtesgaden, Obersalzberg, Kehlstainhaus. Saw all the sites and ruins, camped out the night few hundred meters under Eagle's nest. Went up with the bus, took golden elevator ride, had coffee and apfelstrudel in Eagle's nest. After that 2 days at Zell am See, camping and swimming in the lake, also had coffee in Grand Hotel.
Hard to believe looking back this existed and happened. And I now it did as my dad was there in 43-45 (miss you dad). May we never forget how easily it is for a country to be led in such a way and that our Founding Father's gave everything as did my dad's generation to insure our freedom.
Speer didnt think too much of the design that placed the garage below the huge opening window, putting gasoline and exhaust fumes into the famous big room
Speer strongly advised against it, AH insisted.
I think the design of the Berghoff was all screwed up! The big room what's a retractable window should be in the center of the house and the grand stair case should have come up to the center of the terrace.! The garage should have been behind the Berghoff not in front! In my opinion poorly designed?
There are already some very good and extensively researched videos about the Berghoff and the Obersalzberg.
They are an inestimable source, both historical and pictorial of the place.
Seems a shame to destroy all this. The wood panelling is incredible.
Read the Old Testament and you will see that those people behave like this.
Absolute destruction and merciless massacres.
Hitler himself ordered the Berghof to be blown up before the Americans occupied the site. The SS carried out the order in good time.
After the war, the estate was nothing more than a burnt ruin. To prevent this ruin from becoming a shrine for neo-Nazis and Hitler worshippers, the Bavarian state decided in the 1950s to blow up and clear away the remains of the Berghof.
That was a good decision! It was just a building and not even a historic one. Nothing good happened within its walls.
@@mrx0088 The Old Testament has nothing to do with WW2. totally out of context
Fascinating, thank you.
Fascinating insight 👍
Very interesting. Thank you. Mark Felton, sent me over🤔👍
good to see the channel active again
Mark Felton send me here
What an amazing video and learning other things I did not know.
AH had impeccable style and taste that withstand the test of time.
Having been fortunate enough to visit the Obersalzburg twice I can attest that it is a magical area with the beautiful mountains, small shops and great restaurants. It's a unique historical area as well if you are a student of WWII history although not much remains of that period today. There are traces of the Berghof left and the Hotel Zum Turken remains as well. in addition the train station built by the Nazi's remains and of course the beautiful Khelstein house. (Eagles nest)
VERY good. Really enjoyed it! Subscribed, hoping to see more like it.
This is an absolutely spectacular documentation on the obersalzburg. Thank you so much for your perspective and detail.
Excellent video. Thanks!
Endlich hört man von euch wieder ❤
Just once I wish one of these things would define exactly what "the Obersalzberg" means. Area? Region? Town? Mountain? What defined "the Berghof"? the house itself? The compound? I've watched numerous vids and read numerous books and not one ever defines exactly what is meant by these terms. There are others that escape me right now.
Well, thats actually pretty easy to describe.
The Obersalzberg is a mountain. It translates to "Upper Salt Mountain" Ober = Upper, Salz = Salt, Berg = Mountain.
there is also the Untersalzberg which translates to "Lower Salt Mountain" and that is below the Obersalzberg.
The Berghof is just one of the many buildings on the Obersalzberg. Berghof translates to Mountain Estate. Berg = Mountain, Hof = Estate
Hope this helps :)
I believe Obersalzberg translates to "Over salt mountain", and I'm not sure about the Berghof.
Go to visit the salt mines amazing.
The Berghoff means the FARM or Court !
Outstanding and thank you for another great video.
Maybe soon you can give us an update on the Turkin, it's future and the bunker system below.
❤💯
My son and I stayed at the Turkin around 2005 when it was owned and operated by Frau Sharfenberg (sp). We spent a pleasant evening talking with her. To be honest, we were trying to get her drunk. She had stories of various people like Gunsche (sp) who carried the body of Hitler from the bunker. He knocked on her door some time in the 60s .... staying there for some days. He told her stories, and the people who had been the housekeepers of the Berghoff also told her stories. She said she would take all that information to her grave, which I believe she did.
No matter what books you read or UA-cam videos you watch, there are still things the general public will never know. After sleeping in the Turkin, my son and I took the walk that Hitler took often. And it was a bit spooky .... like a ghost from the past invaded my being. I looked in the mirror within our rental car. It was as if someone else's eyes were looking back at me. That era of the 30s & 40s was filled with wonder, cruelty, and things that most people would not begin to understand. I felt a bit like a moth to the flame while there.
It's been my goal since I was eight to some day visit Obersalzburg and explor the system.
I have researched the tunnels and buildings extensively and have a wealth of knowledge on the area.
One day l will see for myself. ❤💯 HISTORY
I was just relaying what Frau Sharfenberg (sp) told my son and I. She did not say how many times Gunsche had visited there, just about the first time he knocked on her door there at the Turkin. Her grandfather was the one the Nazis (Bormann) forced to sell. After the war she insisted the property be returned to her family. From what I read the building & property is now owned by someone else who is renovating it.
Beau Travail🎬🔥🌌🙏
It was a pleasure just to watch a video without UA-cam ads
Err u know that’s how the video creator gets paid right?
@@alldoodlesmatter6095 I know that by the time I've made it through most of the ads, I've already forgotten why I've clicked on the video?
excellent production guys!!!
Interesting video with some good internal photos i haven't seen before
Lloyd George was Welsh. He is the first and only
British PM to have been able to speak Welsh as a first language and english as second. He is buried in his home village of Llanystumdwy in North Wales, UK
Siempre que veo estos videos tan fascinantes lo agradezco mucho, pero también siento una gran indignación y coraje por qué fue destruido.
Sería fascinante que se hubiera conservado y poder visitarlo, de cualquier manera gracias nuevamente por tan excelente video ,pues al menos lo podemos disfrutar visualmente.
Doesn't look too dark to me
It's not dark at all. You just need to say that, we know who has control over UA-cam..
@@dannyk1351spare me. I bet youre going to mention the Protocols of Zion next. Are you really that stupid?
@@Roller_Ghoster I was gonna say democrats. Jesus Christ. I guess we know where your head is at. Wowwwwwww
Weißte was dark ist.? Das aktuelle Deutschland.
Denk ich an Deutschland in der Nacht , so bin ich um den Schlaf gebracht.
@@dannyk1351 think you need a couple more k's in your name there Danny.
Fascinating, thank you for this amazing video
This is an outstanding video.
To ensure History doesn't repeat itself, the Prestigious Fine Arts Academy of Vienna accepted all applicants after WW II. 😎
Os alemães jamais vão aceitar a derrota pára os russos nem daqui mil anos 😢😢😢🇩🇪🇧🇷
Excellent video bud. 😊😊😊
Very interesting, thank you🤔👍
Who is the german man speaking in the beginning? Why isn´t there any name captions?
I forgot to add it.
It is Herbert Doehring speaking. He was Hitlers House & Property administrator on the Berghof for 8 years.
I have added a link to the complete interview in the video description.
Very well done. Thank you.
The Berghof to my eyes looked a whole lot better (by far) than the White House.
What a pity (and loss) that this was destroyed.😢
Yes I agree, it's not really that dark to me either.
Great video. I find Hitler's Berghof to be fascinating.
Brilliant historical film!
The pictures at the end of the video, I recognize as being of Bormann having the roofs removed from houses that he wanted vacated.
7:23 that is interesting.
Was an amazing majestic house for its time. Fit for a king literally.
Not in honor if Hitler, but for history, if they would rebuild the Berghof, it would be a tourist attraction.
Gréât documentaire 👌
Lt. Welsh: "Eerie...not even any natives..."
Captain Nixon: "That's because this is the one town you can't deny being a true Nazi."
Lt. Welsh: "What do you mean?"
Captain Nixon: "Because you have to be to live here..." -Band of Brothers
Great Stuff.
It's all moved to Brussels now..! You can see a look-alike Eva Braun performing there!
It's called skittles - not bowling & Lloyd George was a taffy not English.
The Bergerhofster Meister Berger.
Very interesting...
What happen to the house now?
Seems there should be a Part 2, no??
Such a shame it is gone
Actually there was a "Kegelbahn" in the basement and the game was not classic bowling but "Kegeln". Main differences are no holes in the balls (they´re also smaller) and nine instead of ten pins.
Most impressive living room in the world at the time. 😏
Well done! Finally a tour of the obersalsburg.berghof. indepth history and details. Is there another video on this? A+
Salve a Grande Alemanha Ocultista e Esoterica
No Albert Smear?
First time i saw his bedroom
Magnificent home.
Intesting but most of i have seen before.
I have never seen many of these pictures and videos of Hilter's mountain retreat. The setting is spectacular but my God ..he needed a better interior decorator. Some of it Reminded me of Wagner's villa in Bayreuth...dark..heavy..and cumbersome..
There must be thousands of documentary’s about this man. Why is the world so obsessed which this guy?
I would have thought Speer would have done most of the architecture!
I don't think Speer was involved with Hitler at the time the house was being built.
I never realized Hitler bowled. Wild.
I fully expected H and E's quarters to be much more opulent, tbh.
I never knew that there was a bowling alley in the Berghof, I'm guessing it was fitted out with WiFi and had blue tooth capability.
Next: Berghof vs Freakoff.
A beautiful building it just had Pure Evil there
Ever though about a tour of the facilities without all the propaganda?
Ruiter Productions on UA-cam has pretty great videos on the matter, Obersalzberg then and now, and without the dumb creepy music.
Thank you. Will check it out.@@colonelsmith7757
Lloyd George was British, but he wasn't English.
That has to be Iggy Pop narrating
Lloyd George was Welsh not English.
Who’s there now
The left looks dark to me
Nice place too bad what happened. How is Russia and communism doing for everyone?
And behind this impressive facade of normality, an immense and deep hell in the bowels of the master of evil for millions of innocent people killed, murdered, gassed and burned !!
Absolutely ignorant US pronunciation. Eidolf vs Adolf, Bormen vs Borman. OMG 😳👎
Very bad narrator
Architecturally the exterior is just ok. The interiors are bland, and uninspired. Very boring. The vaulted ceilings or the coffered wood ceiling are yawn. It's neither warm and inviting or awe inspiring and imposing. I guess you'd be polite and say how wonderful mein fuhrer, but having it bombed and burned out was no loss to architecture. There's really nothing there. Design by a fourth year high school draughting student. B-
Looking at artefacts of another era with 21st century eyes completely distorts the view and makes one's opinion of very low factual, intellectual and architectural value, those who were there at that time had visual references completely different to our own today and no computers to express their very personal opinion, trying to make it read like an established matter of fact when in reality, equating a renown architect to a fourth grade student has nothing to do whatsoever with objectivity, architecture or reality.
Having a great affinity for and an extensive knowledge of the architecture of the period I can say that my opinion is based on the design of the house and not it's owner. It's not ground breaking for the period in any way. Its one trick pony, the living room window is a whoop de do. The furniture is bland, the textiles are meh.
I'd draw your attention to the significantly better works of Mies Van de Rohe, le Corbussier, CFAVoysey, CRMackintosh. Even FLWright did better work in his toilet after a night binging on tacos and refried beans.
The Berghof is just an exercise by a lack luster draughtsman with a limited understanding, no finesse, and an big ego.
@@andrewmacgregor8717 Still, just an opinion, one sole voice, neither backed by numerous shared 21th century opinions, or any known criticism by those who actually visited the place in the context it was conceived and used and the cast of characters that populated it.
Question: Do all those who have an extensive knowledge of the architecture of the period use trick pony, whoop de do, bland or meh in their professional evaluations? And do they all agree that even FLWright did better work in his toilet after a night binging on tacos and refried beans? And when you say that your opinion is based on the design of the house and not it's owner, you are so not credible, any valid, unbiased critic would balance like and don't like, pros and cons, positive and negative, let me show you:
"The living room window is a whoop de do... but the view is incredible."
See, that's objectivity, your comments are unilateral, negative and your disgust or anger or prejudice, call it what you will, is much closer to the surface than you think.
Therefore, you may have an extensive knowledge all you want, there is no reason whatsoever for me to believe a single word you say, Frank Lloyd Wright's tacos and refried beans don't make the cut.
Put aside any preoccupation with the occupants and the 21st Century perspective. My view is based solely on the comparison of this work with other contemporary works. There isn't a coherent thread to the interior design. A story to be told in architecture, like music, poetry or a good novel. This was important to the architects I mentioned before. The Berghof was just a hash of different ideas (tropes) assembled under one roof. It demonstrates an immaturity in design understanding and didn't bring anything new to the art. It was a venue for significant historic certainly but easily dismissed as you would dismiss a Hollywood studio back lot. It's really not worth getting into the merits of Austrian knotty pine, embroidery patterns, coffered ceiling and imposing steps and how they were used to establish pecking order.
@@andrewmacgregor8717 Pecking order? Are you talking about a house or are you projecting thoughts and a type of personality on the master of the house based on pure speculation that parades as reality, covered by broken pieces from the winners' version, another charade that was created for public consumption, that most believe to be true because they were born on one side of the border rather than the other for whom evidence, research and objectivity have ceased to be part of the processes of making valid accusations, and forming a coherent opinion. That good and evil, black and white, cowboy and Indians version of the events of vWW2 was/is a sanitized necessity for the allies, to keep the hangman away but to keep the fiction alive it also requires an enemy so evil, that in order to beat him, "sometimes you have to use some evil tactics, in order to defeat a greater evil". and that's exactly what happened after the end of the war, Hitler's evil has been used up to this day to validate the creation and the survival of a state and to keep the people of Germany on their knees, humiliated and to prevent them from telling what was done to them because that would put their good guy image in serious danger, that's why they are still under foreign occupation and why their politicians seem to mostly go against the will of the people, they don't work for the people.
Anyway, your words make your emotions and your opinions almost come out of the page and message after message, your incapacity to say even one good word about the house and its inhabitants speak louder than whatever nonsense you're throwing at us.
Prime Minister of gullibility Neville is more appropriate.