An easy way I did it on Hero first playthough - start with Huang Gai, do similar route but go straight, take base, then left, take base (killed all generals except the extras that show up) - rush forest, skip phantom mini-boss, go straight to Bailuan, smash his cheeks - By the time I rushed back to Sun Quan, he and his posse were still healthy for the rush to the final base. Trying the video method on Hero caused me a lot of issues with Sun Quan dying and everyone being murdered. Remember that higher grade weapons might drop to help the battle in your favor. Happy hunting Dynasty Warriors!
Will be using this in a bit, I used your other guide to save sun Jian. I wanted to say you were right I did it on the middle difficult, and it was really difficult. Lots of grinding to level, and lots of attempts. I hope this has a good payoff or a satisfying one thanks for the videos.
Gotta say, I did not fight Yan Baihu, just went straight to Bailuan, and saved him, unsure if it's because i saved sun jian before or not, but thought I'd let you know
If you sort of do the start the way I do it should work out. I know reinforcement troops show up and focus attack him taking out at least 1 should make him last
@@dassbear I managed to beat it! Thank you! I just clicked to see where you went to fight the boss the first time and assumed that was all I needed, my bad 😣
So I have understood something. If you take out Yan Baihu's phantom before going to Bailuan, you fight Bailuan as normal, high as health and defense. If you go straight into the hidden forest, he is weaker, but the other Phantoms are much more aggressive I guess? There may also be more, I don't know there is too much happening on screen and I am getting rofl stomped in my frustration.
I ended up doing this on the same save playthrough after saving sun jian. I got the fate altered notification but it didnt end the mission right there like it did before with sun jian, but instead had to continue playing the mission and missed the cutscene with sun ce
Correction, the cutscene plays after the MC Story cutscene first with the edgy ninja, then the cutscene with Sun Ce. Typed and published that comment while in the edgelord cutscene first
So i got the fate altered thought i didn't get the cut scene but it plays after the ending battle screen where you see your ranks gained and xp for your horse and all that.
Oh my god I’ve been playing solo against this guy and getting destroyed, restarting whenever he gave that stupid message because I thought I ran out of time. I didn’t even wait for the altered fate. Fuck that I’m going with a companion right now.
The first part of the video is for those that struggle not to lose the battle part after saving sun ce. The first phantom can be skipped too but may cause phantoms to be stronger in the cave with bailuan.
Dramatic effect on assault? The only 2 are the normal where you hit them alot and they don't die and the other is an instant kill under half health. Dramatic effect on tactics is arrows from high ground or cav charges late game
This might arguably be the most annoying fight I have ever done. Especially since it seems if you start he fight and go a few seconds without hitting him, time runs out and he disappears. I can not tell you how many times I had this little brat down to nothing just for him to like.. Disappear
Lost 4 hours to this before last save.. I beated Bailuan and i did not get the Fate Altered.. completed the battle and still no fate... now i have to do all over again.. pretty pissed. Autosave already saved to chapter 5 so no loading that.
So I'm quite curious if you know this tidbit cause I may have missed it... Does altering Fate change anything? *Spoilers* I beat Wu after saving Sun Ce and there was absolutely no impact i feel from all that work to try and save him 😅 Do i have to have saved both him and Sun Jian or is it more just a pride thing?
If you do it fast enough you get fate altered. taking out the reinforcement troops that focus sun quan should help, at least one. Cut scene is after battle
Ya i thought that was case. I've seen people saying if you don't defeat him the phantoms are stronger and if you do they are weaker. Not 100% sure if he makes a change
To be honest, this game was very exciting, but I'm very disappointed too. I managed to save Sun Jian. And the last battle was CHIBI!!! THE LAST! And the game ended with my decision to become a general of Wu. Sun Jian never appeared again. I have waited for this. And nothing. Didn't knew I can save Sun Ce too, but as I see, it is just as useless, as saving Sun Jian....
I swear to god if both Sun Jian, and Sun Ce don't reappear later in the story, after going through this, I'm gling to be one upset gamer. 😂
An easy way I did it on Hero first playthough - start with Huang Gai, do similar route but go straight, take base, then left, take base (killed all generals except the extras that show up) - rush forest, skip phantom mini-boss, go straight to Bailuan, smash his cheeks - By the time I rushed back to Sun Quan, he and his posse were still healthy for the rush to the final base.
Trying the video method on Hero caused me a lot of issues with Sun Quan dying and everyone being murdered.
Remember that higher grade weapons might drop to help the battle in your favor. Happy hunting Dynasty Warriors!
Will be using this in a bit, I used your other guide to save sun Jian. I wanted to say you were right I did it on the middle difficult, and it was really difficult. Lots of grinding to level, and lots of attempts.
I hope this has a good payoff or a satisfying one thanks for the videos.
definitely a lot easier compared to the Sun Jian rescue fight in my opinion
Agreed. I think it’s because sun jians happens so early in the game & you’re not properly leveled up yet
Thank you I been pounding my head on a wall trying to figure out how to save my dawg
شكرا صديقي ❤️
oh yeah i forgot one thing i was thinking about how to save Guo Jia.please
haven't gotten here yet but nice of you to have something out so early. will keep this in mind!
Gotta say, I did not fight Yan Baihu, just went straight to Bailuan, and saved him, unsure if it's because i saved sun jian before or not, but thought I'd let you know
That would save so much time to, my bad
If Sun Quan would stop dying that would be greaaaaaat. I've had to repeat this boss fight 5 times now because he always dies right after it :
If you sort of do the start the way I do it should work out. I know reinforcement troops show up and focus attack him taking out at least 1 should make him last
@@dassbear I managed to beat it! Thank you! I just clicked to see where you went to fight the boss the first time and assumed that was all I needed, my bad 😣
sun quan is wea
So I have understood something. If you take out Yan Baihu's phantom before going to Bailuan, you fight Bailuan as normal, high as health and defense. If you go straight into the hidden forest, he is weaker, but the other Phantoms are much more aggressive I guess? There may also be more, I don't know there is too much happening on screen and I am getting rofl stomped in my frustration.
I didn't realize this but maybe that makes sense, I was over leveled for this as well for my run. It's a very annoying battle
Funny thing I got the cutscene after the ending of the mission
That's right, I cut to that moment to save time on the video.
Wait until u play it in the ultimate Warrior mode
I've just done it and I've been screaming to bailuan like nuts but it's done
thanks
I ended up doing this on the same save playthrough after saving sun jian. I got the fate altered notification but it didnt end the mission right there like it did before with sun jian, but instead had to continue playing the mission and missed the cutscene with sun ce
Correction, the cutscene plays after the MC Story cutscene first with the edgy ninja, then the cutscene with Sun Ce. Typed and published that comment while in the edgelord cutscene first
So i got the fate altered thought i didn't get the cut scene but it plays after the ending battle screen where you see your ranks gained and xp for your horse and all that.
Ya, i cut to that point, my bad 😅
@@dassbear Dude, I literally replayed the same mission like six times. I thought I messed up somehow. You're so wrong for that 😭😭😭
@@dassbearwhat a douche. Enjoy the dislike.
I did this and i killed too many officers and sun quan got to the point where Bailuan runs away so he just leaves mid fight with me lol
i got Fate Altered but i didn't see any cutsene its that ok?
It should pop after the battle ends
@@dassbear oh ok i though its pop up after its say Fate Altered
Oh my god I’ve been playing solo against this guy and getting destroyed, restarting whenever he gave that stupid message because I thought I ran out of time. I didn’t even wait for the altered fate. Fuck that I’m going with a companion right now.
Do u have to be in the red faction to save sun ce?
Yes
you actually only have to defeat the shadow figure and bailuan to change sun ces faith
The first part of the video is for those that struggle not to lose the battle part after saving sun ce. The first phantom can be skipped too but may cause phantoms to be stronger in the cave with bailuan.
@@dassbear well i am max level adn now i start doing the saving stuff so i think i would have a problem with him XD
How do you get dynamic success with assaults?
Dramatic effect on assault? The only 2 are the normal where you hit them alot and they don't die and the other is an instant kill under half health. Dramatic effect on tactics is arrows from high ground or cav charges late game
archer also can be used for ambush if enemy is facing other way so they panic(but not engaged with your forces yet)
This might arguably be the most annoying fight I have ever done. Especially since it seems if you start he fight and go a few seconds without hitting him, time runs out and he disappears. I can not tell you how many times I had this little brat down to nothing just for him to like.. Disappear
bailuan withdraw while fighting him, i have no idea why but he just withdraw and i didnt get the cutscene where i save sun ce :((
If he disappears then it passed the time limit
@@dassbear many thanks bro :DDD
i did the same has you it says fate changed but then i don't have the cinematic do i have to finish the fight ?
Yes, you have to finish the battle ( i cut that off to save video length a bit)
@@dassbear ok thank you very much
I did all this and yet he disappears and summons ice and then leaves battle what am I doing wrong?
He disappears when time runs out. The timer starts the moment sun ce disappears in the Forrest
I have posted 33 volumes of kingdom out of 75
Apparently, it doesn’t work if you just go and do the singular battle, you have to play through the actual story
Ya, you have replay from the chapter itself
Lost 4 hours to this before last save.. I beated Bailuan and i did not get the Fate Altered.. completed the battle and still no fate... now i have to do all over again.. pretty pissed. Autosave already saved to chapter 5 so no loading that.
If you don't beat him fast enough, it will be too late, but you can still defeat him. If you take even longer, he eventually disappears, I think.
So I'm quite curious if you know this tidbit cause I may have missed it... Does altering Fate change anything?
*Spoilers*
I beat Wu after saving Sun Ce and there was absolutely no impact i feel from all that work to try and save him 😅 Do i have to have saved both him and Sun Jian or is it more just a pride thing?
Ya, you have to save both to get a new ending
@dassbear appreciate it!
I didn't get fate altered or the cutscene and then that clown Quan died right after.
If you do it fast enough you get fate altered. taking out the reinforcement troops that focus sun quan should help, at least one. Cut scene is after battle
You dont need to defeat yan baihu to see the door.
Ya i thought that was case. I've seen people saying if you don't defeat him the phantoms are stronger and if you do they are weaker. Not 100% sure if he makes a change
@@dassbear i will try defeating phantom to check the difference. Thank you
I don't know I killed sun jin I didn't make it to him in time
I’m loving the game but I’m hating the story route for saving these guys. Everyone is still sad af and we have to hide that they’re alive so stupid.
I take back everything I said I love this game lol😂
I can't do it on Hero mode!
Ya i could only do it on the easiest
so the whole rescue is a waste because nothing changes....
Doing both fates gets a new ending.
First time doing this u reckon lol ok
Do you really have to defeat all the generals? Just to do these two important fights to save this guy. It seems a lot a waste of time
Only the main guy but you don't want all your forces to be defeated in the meantime
To be honest, this game was very exciting, but I'm very disappointed too. I managed to save Sun Jian. And the last battle was CHIBI!!! THE LAST! And the game ended with my decision to become a general of Wu. Sun Jian never appeared again. I have waited for this. And nothing. Didn't knew I can save Sun Ce too, but as I see, it is just as useless, as saving Sun Jian....
Ya saving both gets a new "true" ending but that's it
@@dassbear Oh thanks, then I'm gonna go back to a previous early save game, and save Sun Ce too, to get this ending.
Maybe dlc to extend the story well atleast I hope that is the case.
In my playthrough sun ce just died via cutscene i didnt even get a mission for it
Ya, it won't tell you or anything you just gotta go to the area