@@PAKallmantexas is a really big state. nothing “dry” about where i live. damn near same climate as southern florida except it does get a little colder here but in exchange it gets hotter here. you can cut the summer air with a knife. live a couple hours away from the mexico border but on the gulf and it actually rains more in the winter than it does in the summer here
If you get west of Ft. Worth the per/unit acreage goes up quickly. This summer no rain for well of 💯 days and temperature 99 and up . Parker County Palo Pinto Jack and beaucoup more had wild fires.
West Central Texas is 10+ acres per pair on real good years. Most times it's closer to 20+. Don't forget to add in hay. Junk hay is going for $65-75 for a round bale.
😂😂That's too funny! But he's just being real I think. People think they can just get cows and throw them outside in the backyard and make money it seems.lol. We're truck drivers and can't believe how the grass is still growing in some southern stares!
He probably inherited the ranch through generations, so no land payment , just rancher friendly taxes. The ranchers run the state of Montana, for better or worse!
@@gambleoakranchwe are the same as MT. In northwest ND good luck trying to buy land that's lower than 5k to 10k an acre. SD is a little better with growing but not by much. And we dont have that extra grow season to put cows on cover crops in the winter like the southern states do.
Here in the Blue ridge of Virginia and it’s one cow per acre. Good years we get 4 solid hay cuttings, one in late April early May, good rain we can get another in late July early august and another in mid September, then a late cut in late October.
I'm from Ohio and worked on a ranch in Central Montana for several years. one thing I realized is you have to also look st the price per cow/acres. in Ohio I can run a cow to 1or two acres but land here because of the row crop potential has been selling for 10 to 13 thousand an acre. if I need two acres that's 26000$ of land per cow. it takes more than one calf a year to cover that bill the way I pencil it out.
One or two acres per cow in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. In the Valley and nearby valleys into West Virginia, Blue Ridge land, a lot of farming is growing hay for cattle out West.
@@HomerEscobar1 California is a communist shit hole. I geel bad for the generational farmers there. Between the government complaining about cow farts, the homeless and crime stupid taxes stupid laws who in there right mind would want to go there? California has a mass Exodus, problem is they move because of said problems then go somewhere else and vote the same asinine way
Central Texas is about 10 acres per cow (course if you have a fertile place and plant well managed Bermuda some can have a cow per 3 to 4 acres). Abilene (about 3 hours west) area is 12 acres per cow.
I keep it a 2 acres per cow and I’m in Ga. We focus as much on grass quality as we do the herd and it shows purchase time. But to make a living you have to have a lot of cows
Im glad you shared this important info my friend. Most folks think we are completely nuts for running cows up here in the mountains of Montana where we have cows on HAY only for 9 months of the year! Yes. I think we are crazy. LOL! Making money with that kind of system has to depend on use of cattle in more ways than the normal income revenues. Down lower where you are is still incredibly difficult because the winters are just SO LONG up here in Montana! You truly have to understand how cattle ranching works before you decide to get into ranching. Thanks for sharing really good info!
Which is why so much alfalfa is grown out west, which is why so much water is sucked up from the LIMITED underground water sources. More than is being replaced. Get ready to get out of the cattle businres where you have to do that. This can't go on forever.
I lived around Eureka Montana for a spell, I dearly love the Rockies there...I live back in KY now. We had two farms in Kentucky plus I had grazing rights on another farm too. Now I'm retired, still live in the country , I'm seventy now.
I live in the Ozarks. The hills are great cattle country. Get 4x4 dont drive along steep hills drive up and down. You dont even need 4x4 if its not muddy
In oklahoma, we can run about 40 head on 70 acres and it depends where in the state your located, but you will typically pay through the ass for cleared grassland regardless
i think about that here in PA alot of people have cattle and small properties because of longer growing season . but alot of farms are sold off for parking lots and warehouses for shipping and receiving products that are useless for feeding society. smh I'm gonna need my own farm soon. 🙄👍
Not only is South Carolina full but theirs a bunch of pissed off saaquatches who got into a still and ate all the mash. They rampage and steal kids, pets and livestock at night. 0-10 don't recommend....and we have the highest state income tax in the south.
We’re buying land there next spring. But I promise you we share the same general beliefs if you’re saying that because we will still own land here in the soon to be commie land of Arizona. Floods of people moving here. You won’t even notice I’m there 😉
@@MajorChipHazard1 🇺🇸👍🏻 So highlarious!! Luv it! Ha! I caught days ago! Now I understand the Sasquatch thing! It means stay away! Ha!! Got it! Will do!🤪😉
i think in Arkansas u need 3/4 of an acre per cow to make a living ranching- i think the mountains here have more beef cattle and the low lands are where the dairy cattle are- on my family land we raise 150 acres in hay the feed cattle- which we do sell to ranchers
Its how the ranchers move herds in the United States too, if I have one hundred acres, I can divide that into sections. And let my four cows graze on one section, while the other sections grow grass. After the section the cows are on is depleted, I move my four cows to the next section. I still need one hundred acres to raise four cows, but the cows aren't actively grazing all one hundred acres the whole time, that would be irresponsible land management.
cool season, perennial grasses are super nutrition and respond well to grazing. MT weaning and 205 day adjusting weights are fantastic, and done with no creep feeding. Few know but MT is closed to non residents for the next 20 years ... check back often tho for updates.
Southern Mississippi is that way too. Grasses, vines, moss and weeds grows just about year round. In a month of growth, ur looking at 1-3 foot of growth.
He’s basically telling Californians to stay the fuck out of Montana, I talked to a couple from Montana and they said everyone moving there is completely wrecking their state, he even blamed the show Yellowstone, which I 100% agree
Sorry from Alabama but we are required to have AT LEAST 1 acre per animal (horse or cow). And our grass is currently dormant until probably 1st part of March end of February.
I live in northwest montana, we have 2 cow calf pairs, 14 goats and 3 pasture pigs, we have our property cross fenced for pasture, we can make enough hay for our animals and graze them on a little over 20 acres, depends on the year and location for how many acres per cow.
😁😂🤣 I just chewed you out on the wolf video, and said this to you!! Not OK, or TX, not enough water in either. Dont have to go that far south either. Its 2;1. Dobt need grass year round. Winter we just switch over to hay, like you do. Michigan religiously gets 3 hay cuttings per year, but most often gets 4 or 5. TN too. My personal ranch is in Wyoming, but we have family ranches in MI and TN. I dont utilize my full 4000 acres , in WY, for ranching. (Tiny, puny, place compared to my neighbors, 90k, 136k, 126k, 360k BLM, Parks) About half of my place is working ranch, but that half includes my 20 acre garden, my chickens = another 5 acres ,and my home & 6 out buildings, so not even half. The other half, I just like altering the Earth, to make it do, what everybody said I couldn't be done in WY. Yes, I can, and do. Made it into a 2000 acre mini paradise, growing things that people said couldn't grow here. Like oak, maple, & fruit trees. Sweet grass. (The Elk love it too.) Back east, we've sold 1500lb rounds for $60 the last few years. 5 cuttings. Water... theres plenty over there. Rains often. JS. I just bought a couple small, neighbouring, properties in TN. 622 acres, and 631 acres. I can raise far more cattle there than I could even think about raising on my WY 4k place.
I live in Western Washington. We don't get the cold and the snow that Montana does. Our growing season is a lot longer, but not year-round like in the South. I'm not sure on the growth cycle for pasture grass, but I know that we can mow for hay 2-3 times per year depending on the soil composition and the weather.
Hell yeah Trinity as a fellow Native Montanan I like you’re strategy here the Ole Bait and switch keep them out of staters out state Lol! No jkng Does make sense to start out with land that can feed year round.
In Kentucky, I've always been told that I should figure one cow, per acre. We always had less cattle than we did pasture so we never had a problem with under grazing. I'd love to come out west and see how things run out there. I sure do appreciate u sharing tips with us. Always an interesting video and usually learn something each one I watch.
I'm not sure what the "official" amount is in Kansas. But I know that my dad always made sure to have 5 to 6 acres per cow/calf pair, year-round, plus feeding both brome bales and alfalfa bales during the cold months.
I'm a former Okie. The Sooner State has a WIDE variance of requirements for a cow/calf pair. It's over 500 miles from McCurtain to Cimmaron Counties. The latter, in the Panhandle's tail end (much of their land is school trust land and very trying for today's land lesees with a 5 year bid period!), generally requires nearly 40 acres because of the semi-desert, often dry climate and is over 4000' above sea level. The former is in the southeast end, bordered by the Red River and SW Arkansas and is mostly lowlands under 500' above sea level with some mountains, so rain is way more plentiful. Note though, there's been drought conditions earlier this year which affected that SE region, severe enough that many cattlemen had to sell portions or entire herds.
It depends on your location. I live in Virginia and keep 20 head on 12 acres. Other places you’d need much more acreage for that same 20 head. Yes I feed hay all winter and a bit in the summer too
So everywhere I know of in Texas the standard rule is five acres per cow. Lotta scrub brush and it’s heating up. Santa gertruda and longhorn is all anyone I know runs down there.
One acre per head in Oklahoma and Missouri. I try to keep mine to two acres per head. Gives me good separate pasture for my bull herd. But I have a smaller operation than you. I run around 145 to 160 on my Oklahoma 450 acres and about 600 head on my 1450 acres in Missouri. I have another 1500 acres in western Oklahoma I own and I lease another 2 sections or 1280 acres. I use my western Oklahoma place and lease for hay, wheat and milo. But, at 73, bout ready to turn it over to my kids and retire.
Average in the East, 2 acres per cow/calf unit. In the north, that 2 acres is pasture and hay. Here, Arizona, 57 acres. It's not so much the feed as available water. If you can irrigate a pasture, then you can put a lot of cows on an acre but move them several times a day.
Look in to smaller paddocks and rotate frequently giving the land time to rest and you'll have a better grassland and won't have to supplement feed. Worth looking in to.
In Michigan I can turn sheep out around the 1st of May and graze until the winter when the snow is to deep for them to find grass. Some winters we don't have much snow so I can keep them out in the field until shearing time and then they want to be inside. After lambs are born and started, I turn them back out. I like having corn near by as well because after I pick ear corn I like to turn the sheep out on corn stubble for an hour or so each day. I have been experimenting with mob grazing and at this point I think could run about 50 sheep on for acres all summer or about a cow and a half per acre.
Look up Greg Judy on UA-cam he does mob grazing and he was just in Arizona with a farm he just helped to get up and running and that farm does mob grazing.
I farm 22 acres in southern Arkansas and move my cows everyday. My paddocks are 1 acre each and I graze 30 cows on that and feed hay from the last week in November to mid February.
Wow, in KY have to have 1 acre per cow or horse. Our cows eat mostly hay in the winter tho. Gotta look at the cost of living and land per acre and taxes and things too tho. Dont come to KY, its awful here.
Stupid winter🥶 Albertan who gets shut down half of the the year. Just finished for the season really would love to emigrate down to the US but at 40 that's quite the move.
Here in the Ozarks its a cow an acre, sometimes more if you have nice bottom with lots of sediment that washed down from the hills. My grandpa has 55 head on 42 acres. Washington county arkansas used to have the highest stocking rate in the country at 300k head. Down to 95k from so much development and the rich folks coming to work for walmart, buying up land and buying a tractor just to mow all their land and call it a ranch😂
I've researched for so long the different states that would be good for homesteading, and you just read off about half my list lmfao guess I can throw away all of my research now 😂 Fr though, those pythons and gators in Florida aren't a joke. Good luck if you buy there everything else seems great except the sink holes and hurricanes but that's the east coast for ya lol
A dear friend with roots in OK, still owns part of a ranch on prime river bottom land, that supports a cow & a calf per acre!! He will hold it as a legacy for his two sons...
In NV the Bureau of Land Mgt if you request a grazzing map it tells you how many acres per cow.Some places it takes 300 or 400 acres per cow.Now some places it was alot better 25 acres per cow.Then feeding is another issue.A cow with a calf about 1.5 to 2 tons of hay to get them through the winter.Why to we ranch here?
I see a lot of folks from the south that are talking about grass hibernation in the winter time well yeah that will happen with turf but grasses for feeding the man is correct it's year-round
I'm in the central valley of California. Around here it's one animal unit per acre. But you can no buy that kind of property and make a living. And we have to irrigate. Most people farm. I'm lucky, my grandfather bought the pasture I use back in the 1940s. Also, I was able to buy 20 acres in 1995. No snow here either. But grass does slow down. Especially with no rain.
Less acres per cow, but the land is more expensive I’ve been looking into this for a while. All I wanna do is Homestead and Montana is beautiful but land down south is expensive.
It’s ain’t grown here in Alabama since about October 20th so not sure what you are talking about, I landscape and farm here and have been putting out hay because the grass is done till spring.
Question: why don’t ranchers raise Buffalo? Or would it be too hard to care for them? Wouldn’t they live on scrub and you wouldn’t need to supplement with corn feed?
@@willhorting5317 I think you know what I mean. I don’t see bison meat in the grocery shelves, no bison steaks. If you want me to phrase it correctly, I guess, then add the word “more” before the word “ranchers”.
@@BlackSeranna maybe you don't see them where you live. But there's ranchers in my area of Kansas who are raising Bison. And there's a couple of "natural" grocery markets in my area that sell Bison meat. My previous comment had nothing to do with terminology. Quote: "Question: Why don't ranchers raise Buffalo?" Your question made it sound like you didn't think ANY ranchers raise Buffalo. My intention was not to bash you or irritate you. Happy Thanksgiving
@@willhorting5317 Thanks for your answer! Around me, there is only a couple of farmers who raise Buffalo. I say “around me” but really I mean “up state” or “several counties over” which would also be “one farmer in each location, and a 4-5 hour drive each way”. Maybe my question should be more about “Why don’t grocery stores carry more.” I just thought if there is an animal that will take grass and convert it into meat, it would be better than having to feed corn to animals every day. I do try to support the farmers who market the grass-fed animals and milk, thinking it would be easier on the farmers all the way around. But perhaps I am wrong. I didn’t mean to be cranky, it is just when I ask questions, people assume things about me, such as I am being critical of farmers or of meat; they assume I am someone who is going to go into a criticism saying that meat is the cause of greenhouse gas. I am sorry for being so prickly, it was just an honest question. I know that buffalo, being wild could pose a lot of problems. But I guess I wanted to see what others say.
I live in Hawaii, If you could afford an acre of land here on Oahu you could have 10 cows per acre. They could eat and watch the grass grow! LOL 😆
There are ranchers on other islands. Very expensive and you better not be white. I had kids with a Norwegian. They cant go there.
can't you apply for a land grant if you are native hawaiian? I can't recall correctly but I think they'll give you like 5 to 8 acres or something
Paniolo cowboys. High production of Beef in Hawaii. Grass never stops growing
@@Pfarley fun fact. Hawaii was the first place in America to run cows. Oldest cowboys in America are the paniolos
@@Paco-S. Florida dates back 500 years. How many years does Hawaii date back Paco?
Where I live in Texas it's recommended 4-6 acres per large herd animal.
Dry winters. Florida alabama etc are much wetter
@@PAKallmantexas is a really big state. nothing “dry” about where i live. damn near same climate as southern florida except it does get a little colder here but in exchange it gets hotter here. you can cut the summer air with a knife. live a couple hours away from the mexico border but on the gulf and it actually rains more in the winter than it does in the summer here
If you get west of Ft. Worth the per/unit acreage goes up quickly. This summer no rain for well of 💯 days and temperature 99 and up . Parker County Palo Pinto Jack and beaucoup more had
wild fires.
West Central Texas is 10+ acres per pair on real good years. Most times it's closer to 20+. Don't forget to add in hay. Junk hay is going for $65-75 for a round bale.
It's the same here in Tennessee
You not saying but saying “ stay outta Montana “ Lol
😂😂That's too funny! But he's just being real I think. People think they can just get cows and throw them outside in the backyard and make money it seems.lol. We're truck drivers and can't believe how the grass is still growing in some southern stares!
No one is moving to MT to be a cattle rancher.
The Dakotas did not say that
He probably inherited the ranch through generations, so no land payment , just rancher friendly taxes. The ranchers run the state of Montana, for better or worse!
@@gambleoakranchwe are the same as MT. In northwest ND good luck trying to buy land that's lower than 5k to 10k an acre. SD is a little better with growing but not by much. And we dont have that extra grow season to put cows on cover crops in the winter like the southern states do.
Here in the Blue ridge of Virginia and it’s one cow per acre.
Good years we get 4 solid hay cuttings, one in late April early May, good rain we can get another in late July early august and another in mid September, then a late cut in late October.
Can u count?
I like that you are quietly telling people to not move to Montana, I'm in West River South Dakota and wish these people would get a hint and leave!
Hahaha
Well unless you were born in Montana perhaps people thought the same way about you
Everybody came from somewhere else at some point. California didn't get 40 million people in that state because they grew out of the ground.
I'm from Ohio and worked on a ranch in Central Montana for several years. one thing I realized is you have to also look st the price per cow/acres. in Ohio I can run a cow to 1or two acres but land here because of the row crop potential has been selling for 10 to 13 thousand an acre. if I need two acres that's 26000$ of land per cow. it takes more than one calf a year to cover that bill the way I pencil it out.
One or two acres per cow in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. In the Valley and nearby valleys into West Virginia, Blue Ridge land, a lot of farming is growing hay for cattle out West.
There is a little bit of a difference though. Acreage is a lot more expensive in those areas so it is equally as difficult to finance.
California is a great place to raise cattle.
@@HomerEscobar1 California is a communist shit hole. I geel bad for the generational farmers there. Between the government complaining about cow farts, the homeless and crime stupid taxes stupid laws who in there right mind would want to go there? California has a mass Exodus, problem is they move because of said problems then go somewhere else and vote the same asinine way
Central Texas is about 10 acres per cow (course if you have a fertile place and plant well managed Bermuda some can have a cow per 3 to 4 acres). Abilene (about 3 hours west) area is 12 acres per cow.
Probably because y'all have all those rocks in the soil.
@@JM-yx1lm you are correct. That is definitely a contributing factor.
This is so crazy to me. Our ranch in north Texas still has grass growing until late October/ early November.
Bullshit
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You have a ranch, but didn't know that grass doesn't grow under snow? Or Montana is chilly?
I keep it a 2 acres per cow and I’m in Ga. We focus as much on grass quality as we do the herd and it shows purchase time. But to make a living you have to have a lot of cows
Where did you get that wool jacket?. Nice.
Im glad you shared this important info my friend. Most folks think we are completely nuts for running cows up here in the mountains of Montana where we have cows on HAY only for 9 months of the year! Yes. I think we are crazy. LOL! Making money with that kind of system has to depend on use of cattle in more ways than the normal income revenues. Down lower where you are is still incredibly difficult because the winters are just SO LONG up here in Montana! You truly have to understand how cattle ranching works before you decide to get into ranching. Thanks for sharing really good info!
Which is why so much alfalfa is grown out west, which is why so much water is sucked up from the LIMITED underground water sources. More than is being replaced.
Get ready to get out of the cattle businres where you have to do that. This can't go on forever.
UP THIS WAY..IN RED LODGE WHERE I LIVE....NOT A LIT OF CATTLE ANYMORE..THEY ARE FARMING HOUSES
Washington state has become a nightmare. Montana is calling my name. Soo beautiful and peaceful. Couldn't do what you do but greatly appreciate it.
I lived around Eureka Montana for a spell, I dearly love the Rockies there...I live back in KY now.
We had two farms in Kentucky plus I had grazing rights on another farm too.
Now I'm retired, still live in the country , I'm seventy now.
What's that got to do with the length of grazing times?
@@jeffc2630 nothing.... the man had something he wanted to say.... so he said it.. that's ok with you isn't it....?
I think Kentucky would be a great place to raise cattle. The grass here aggressively grows. The only thing about Kentucky is all the hills.
Same here in western Virginia!
I live in the Ozarks. The hills are great cattle country. Get 4x4 dont drive along steep hills drive up and down. You dont even need 4x4 if its not muddy
In oklahoma, we can run about 40 head on 70 acres and it depends where in the state your located, but you will typically pay through the ass for cleared grassland regardless
i think about that here in PA alot of people have cattle and small properties because of longer growing season . but alot of farms are sold off for parking lots and warehouses for shipping and receiving products that are useless for feeding society. smh I'm gonna need my own farm soon. 🙄👍
Trinity VandenTexas has spoken. Thank you.
Dont come to Tennessee it’s full😂
Don't come to NC either it's full too!!!
Not only is South Carolina full but theirs a bunch of pissed off saaquatches who got into a still and ate all the mash. They rampage and steal kids, pets and livestock at night. 0-10 don't recommend....and we have the highest state income tax in the south.
We’re buying land there next spring. But I promise you we share the same general beliefs if you’re saying that because we will still own land here in the soon to be commie land of Arizona. Floods of people moving here. You won’t even notice I’m there 😉
@@Badger1776 I guess we could make room for one more...😉
@@MajorChipHazard1 🇺🇸👍🏻 So highlarious!! Luv it! Ha!
I caught days ago!
Now I understand the Sasquatch thing!
It means stay away!
Ha!! Got it! Will do!🤪😉
i think in Arkansas u need 3/4 of an acre per cow to make a living ranching- i think the mountains here have more beef cattle and the low lands are where the dairy cattle are- on my family land we raise 150 acres in hay the feed cattle- which we do sell to ranchers
As a fellow Montanan, great advice 😂😂😂
Didn’t know this. Here in the U.K. they just move cows from field to field until the grass grows back.
They still take into account how many per acre. That’s why they move them to allow grass to come back.
Its how the ranchers move herds in the United States too, if I have one hundred acres, I can divide that into sections. And let my four cows graze on one section, while the other sections grow grass. After the section the cows are on is depleted, I move my four cows to the next section. I still need one hundred acres to raise four cows, but the cows aren't actively grazing all one hundred acres the whole time, that would be irresponsible land management.
Florida turns brown in the winter. Hibernation of plants starts in Nov and goes to March.
cool season, perennial grasses are super nutrition and respond well to grazing. MT weaning and 205 day adjusting weights are fantastic, and done with no creep feeding. Few know but MT is closed to non residents for the next 20 years ... check back often tho for updates.
Don't forget to figure in land price or lease per acre. Land is cheap in more arid locations, but takes more. Pencil it out.
In Colorado, we get 2-3 cuttings of grass hay after June. Amazing that Montana doesn’t get grass growth during that time.
Southern Mississippi is that way too. Grasses, vines, moss and weeds grows just about year round. In a month of growth, ur looking at 1-3 foot of growth.
Here in Tennessee 2 acres per cow for grazing and mowing the grass for hay.
And remember folks... Montana winters are 10 months and we are full of Californians...
He’s basically telling Californians to stay the fuck out of Montana, I talked to a couple from Montana and they said everyone moving there is completely wrecking their state, he even blamed the show Yellowstone, which I 100% agree
Code for "Don't come to Montana. Not worth it. Terrible place to raise good cows. They'll hate you when they are teenagers".
😁
Hahaha
Yeah, my thoughts too....STAY AWAY! Lol
@@meycoego to Montana, Californians!
Year round, when i moved to tenn from cali its like a freakin jungle here
It usually does turn into a jungle when Californians move in.
@@MoonShadowRayne Classic!
in northern alberta it takes 1.5 acres per cow for grass and hay we only graze 5 mounths if we r lucky land price is 7000 per acre
In northeastern NM, it's 11 acres per cow.
People from back east don't get the west, north or south.
Was a truly nice way to put it ! LOL !😂 you're clever!
I grew up in louisiana and all the ranchers there have at least 10 cows/bulls per acre. Sometimes more.
Sorry from Alabama but we are required to have AT LEAST 1 acre per animal (horse or cow). And our grass is currently dormant until probably 1st part of March end of February.
Seminole county, FL about 3 acres per cow due to swamps. Lots of swamps. So realistically 30-32 head per hundred acres
I live in northwest montana, we have 2 cow calf pairs, 14 goats and 3 pasture pigs, we have our property cross fenced for pasture, we can make enough hay for our animals and graze them on a little over 20 acres, depends on the year and location for how many acres per cow.
😁😂🤣 I just chewed you out on the wolf video, and said this to you!! Not OK, or TX, not enough water in either. Dont have to go that far south either. Its 2;1. Dobt need grass year round. Winter we just switch over to hay, like you do. Michigan religiously gets 3 hay cuttings per year, but most often gets 4 or 5. TN too. My personal ranch is in Wyoming, but we have family ranches in MI and TN. I dont utilize my full 4000 acres , in WY, for ranching. (Tiny, puny, place compared to my neighbors, 90k, 136k, 126k, 360k BLM, Parks) About half of my place is working ranch, but that half includes my 20 acre garden, my chickens = another 5 acres ,and my home & 6 out buildings, so not even half. The other half, I just like altering the Earth, to make it do, what everybody said I couldn't be done in WY. Yes, I can, and do. Made it into a 2000 acre mini paradise, growing things that people said couldn't grow here. Like oak, maple, & fruit trees. Sweet grass. (The Elk love it too.) Back east, we've sold 1500lb rounds for $60 the last few years. 5 cuttings. Water... theres plenty over there. Rains often. JS. I just bought a couple small, neighbouring, properties in TN. 622 acres, and 631 acres. I can raise far more cattle there than I could even think about raising on my WY 4k place.
Yeah I'm from Georgia and that goes along with what a farmer told me one time if your ground is poor maybe two and a half acres per cow.
I learned something today.
I live in Western Washington. We don't get the cold and the snow that Montana does. Our growing season is a lot longer, but not year-round like in the South. I'm not sure on the growth cycle for pasture grass, but I know that we can mow for hay 2-3 times per year depending on the soil composition and the weather.
Where I live in the cross Timbers region of Texas it’s about 15 acres per cow.
Yep! Thanks John
Hell yeah Trinity as a fellow Native Montanan I like you’re strategy here the Ole Bait and switch keep them out of staters out state Lol! No jkng Does make sense to start out with land that can feed year round.
That’s why I love Alabama
I'm guessing you love your sister too.
@@murraycrichton2001 of course he does
absolute ignorance ^
I’m in Alabama and you are absolutely right I got cows and the grass grows year round great video keep ranching
I live in South Texas and run 2 per acre. However, that being said, i also roataional graze with irrigation.
That’s interesting statistics. We own a 7000 acre ranch in coastal Northern California which is quite mountainous and we run 165 cow-calf (370 total).
In Kentucky, I've always been told that I should figure one cow, per acre. We always had less cattle than we did pasture so we never had a problem with under grazing. I'd love to come out west and see how things run out there. I sure do appreciate u sharing tips with us. Always an interesting video and usually learn something each one I watch.
Good to know! I have wondered this many times
If I lived where I had that view - I would never get work done. You've got the life!
I'm not sure what the "official" amount is in Kansas.
But I know that my dad always made sure to have 5 to 6 acres per cow/calf pair, year-round, plus feeding both brome bales and alfalfa bales during the cold months.
good advice. thank you.
I'm a former Okie. The Sooner State has a WIDE variance of requirements for a cow/calf pair. It's over 500 miles from McCurtain to Cimmaron Counties. The latter, in the Panhandle's tail end (much of their land is school trust land and very trying for today's land lesees with a 5 year bid period!), generally requires nearly 40 acres because of the semi-desert, often dry climate and is over 4000' above sea level. The former is in the southeast end, bordered by the Red River and SW Arkansas and is mostly lowlands under 500' above sea level with some mountains, so rain is way more plentiful. Note though, there's been drought conditions earlier this year which affected that SE region, severe enough that many cattlemen had to sell portions or entire herds.
I live in tennessee, and we say 1 ½ acres per cow. But you'll probably need to feed hay for 3 or 4 months a year
Glad my family raises beef in VA! Takes less land per head and is DELICIOUS!!!
In Arkansas where I run cattle to do it right you need 4 acres per cow not to over graze
Good advice!
In South Carolina it a acre to 1-1/2 acres per cow on fescue and we usually get 3 solid cuttings per year.i have heard of 4 but it not that common
It depends on your location. I live in Virginia and keep 20 head on 12 acres. Other places you’d need much more acreage for that same 20 head. Yes I feed hay all winter and a bit in the summer too
2.5 acres in South western Kentucky
We had 60 acres of pasture and 20 of hay for 32 cows with calves
Grandpa always suggested 3.5 acres to a pair, cow and her calf. That’s here in Kansas.
So everywhere I know of in Texas the standard rule is five acres per cow. Lotta scrub brush and it’s heating up. Santa gertruda and longhorn is all anyone I know runs down there.
They recommend 3 acres per cow , here in Southern Illinois.
One acre per head in Oklahoma and Missouri. I try to keep mine to two acres per head. Gives me good separate pasture for my bull herd. But I have a smaller operation than you. I run around 145 to 160 on my Oklahoma 450 acres and about 600 head on my 1450 acres in Missouri. I have another 1500 acres in western Oklahoma I own and I lease another 2 sections or 1280 acres. I use my western Oklahoma place and lease for hay, wheat and milo. But, at 73, bout ready to turn it over to my kids and retire.
Average in the East, 2 acres per cow/calf unit. In the north, that 2 acres is pasture and hay. Here, Arizona, 57 acres. It's not so much the feed as available water. If you can irrigate a pasture, then you can put a lot of cows on an acre but move them several times a day.
Look in to smaller paddocks and rotate frequently giving the land time to rest and you'll have a better grassland and won't have to supplement feed. Worth looking in to.
I live in Smyrna Tennessee spot on mostly. Gamble family out my back door ,they have around 50 head .very cool !!
I use to live on 387 acres a calf birth mountain. I loved it . Fields of trumpet swans. Coyotes bobcat ect. But I didn't farm.
In Michigan I can turn sheep out around the 1st of May and graze until the winter when the snow is to deep for them to find grass. Some winters we don't have much snow so I can keep them out in the field until shearing time and then they want to be inside. After lambs are born and started, I turn them back out. I like having corn near by as well because after I pick ear corn I like to turn the sheep out on corn stubble for an hour or so each day. I have been experimenting with mob grazing and at this point I think could run about 50 sheep on for acres all summer or about a cow and a half per acre.
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Look up Greg Judy on UA-cam he does mob grazing and he was just in Arizona with a farm he just helped to get up and running and that farm does mob grazing.
Here in Southern New Mexico, it's more like 60 acres unless you supplement. Tough dam way to make a living
Exactly right. The chihuahuan desert is brutal. Might have two week growing season.
I farm 22 acres in southern Arkansas and move my cows everyday. My paddocks are 1 acre each and I graze 30 cows on that and feed hay from the last week in November to mid February.
Yeah as a montanan born and raised 25 is about on point for the average some spot a little more some spots a little less
Wow, in KY have to have 1 acre per cow or horse. Our cows eat mostly hay in the winter tho. Gotta look at the cost of living and land per acre and taxes and things too tho.
Dont come to KY, its awful here.
Stupid winter🥶 Albertan who gets shut down half of the the year. Just finished for the season really would love to emigrate down to the US but at 40 that's quite the move.
Here in the Ozarks its a cow an acre, sometimes more if you have nice bottom with lots of sediment that washed down from the hills. My grandpa has 55 head on 42 acres. Washington county arkansas used to have the highest stocking rate in the country at 300k head. Down to 95k from so much development and the rich folks coming to work for walmart, buying up land and buying a tractor just to mow all their land and call it a ranch😂
Great video!
Yeah but here in missouri cost for an acre has gone up dramatically.
I do 1 acres a cow with rotational grazing. And on a really dry winter they get hay.
I've researched for so long the different states that would be good for homesteading, and you just read off about half my list lmfao guess I can throw away all of my research now 😂
Fr though, those pythons and gators in Florida aren't a joke. Good luck if you buy there everything else seems great except the sink holes and hurricanes but that's the east coast for ya lol
I’m from far East Tennessee and we have 1 acre per cow but we also have to put out hay from mid November to march ish depending on the winter
Right now in Tennessee the grass has stopped growing for the most part but in my area you need around 3-3 1/2 acres per cow
A dear friend with roots in OK, still owns part of a ranch on prime river bottom land, that supports a cow & a calf per acre!! He will hold it as a legacy for his two sons...
Parts of west Texas we are 25 or more per pair.
My grandfather had 90-100 head in upstate New York with way more winter on a 300-320 acre farm.
Tennessee is 2-3 acres depending on if it is flat or rocky
In NV the Bureau of Land Mgt if you request a grazzing map it tells you how many acres per cow.Some places it takes 300 or 400 acres per cow.Now some places it was alot better 25 acres per cow.Then feeding is another issue.A cow with a calf about 1.5 to 2 tons of hay to get them through the winter.Why to we ranch here?
I see a lot of folks from the south that are talking about grass hibernation in the winter time well yeah that will happen with turf but grasses for feeding the man is correct it's year-round
Here in East TN it’s a cow calf pair/ acre unless it’s a bad year
@TrinityMT I live in East TN. The carrying capacity for a pair is around 2.2 per acre.
I'm in the central valley of California. Around here it's one animal unit per acre. But you can no buy that kind of property and make a living. And we have to irrigate. Most people farm. I'm lucky, my grandfather bought the pasture I use back in the 1940s. Also, I was able to buy 20 acres in 1995. No snow here either. But grass does slow down. Especially with no rain.
I know a rancher in Montana with a few hundred head of cattle, you can't even see land he doesn't own from his buildings.
Less acres per cow, but the land is more expensive I’ve been looking into this for a while. All I wanna do is Homestead and Montana is beautiful but land down south is expensive.
It’s ain’t grown here in Alabama since about October 20th so not sure what you are talking about, I landscape and farm here and have been putting out hay because the grass is done till spring.
Question: why don’t ranchers raise Buffalo? Or would it be too hard to care for them? Wouldn’t they live on scrub and you wouldn’t need to supplement with corn feed?
Why assume that ranchers don't raise Bison?
@@willhorting5317 I think you know what I mean. I don’t see bison meat in the grocery shelves, no bison steaks. If you want me to phrase it correctly, I guess, then add the word “more” before the word “ranchers”.
@@BlackSeranna maybe you don't see them where you live.
But there's ranchers in my area of Kansas who are raising Bison.
And there's a couple of "natural" grocery markets in my area that sell Bison meat.
My previous comment had nothing to do with terminology.
Quote: "Question: Why don't ranchers raise Buffalo?"
Your question made it sound like you didn't think ANY ranchers raise Buffalo.
My intention was not to bash you or irritate you.
Happy Thanksgiving
@@willhorting5317 Thanks for your answer!
Around me, there is only a couple of farmers who raise Buffalo. I say “around me” but really I mean “up state” or “several counties over” which would also be “one farmer in each location, and a 4-5 hour drive each way”.
Maybe my question should be more about “Why don’t grocery stores carry more.”
I just thought if there is an animal that will take grass and convert it into meat, it would be better than having to feed corn to animals every day.
I do try to support the farmers who market the grass-fed animals and milk, thinking it would be easier on the farmers all the way around.
But perhaps I am wrong.
I didn’t mean to be cranky, it is just when I ask questions, people assume things about me, such as I am being critical of farmers or of meat; they assume I am someone who is going to go into a criticism saying that meat is the cause of greenhouse gas.
I am sorry for being so prickly, it was just an honest question. I know that buffalo, being wild could pose a lot of problems. But I guess I wanted to see what others say.
@@BlackSeranna 😎