Use heartsteel, redemption, dawnshroud, and amaranth/mantle on rakan, the healing is wild, dash in, take dmg, cc, dash out, heal backline till your cds are up, dash in, ez pz wins, you can even just skip heartsteel if you want to go dawn mantle and amaranth, it still works
Also use Ingenious Hunter rune to reduce the Redemption cooldown to ~5sec. It also reduce Heartsteel, Dawnshroud and Mantle's cooldown. It also reduce the boots enchant cooldown, which can be nice if you use Locket or Spellblock (Veil) over the Revival enchant. Ingenious Hunter rune is one of these niche runes who can be godly with the right build, but almost nobody use it.
Bro tank soraka and hybrid sera are broken with this item harmonic and psychic projector. Ur team is immortal. Please try it. Arcane comet. Tank runes with ingenious hunter. Harmonic into redemption into psychic into the tank item that when u ult creates a blizzard and buffs your highes ad teammate
The heart steel seems like a really good idea for the infinite scaling but even base value with item haste it’s a lot. I feel like redemption + warmogs might just be better or redemption + spirit visage considering you take overgrowth.
Redemption on Swain is SO broken. I started playing Swain before Redemption became Redemption because I was sick of being one shot as a Nami main. I love that Swain is an AP tank. I get the skill shot aspect I have always played since I started a little over a year ago, and I can take damage. I feel like itemization for tanks is a little simpler too. I love that I can also better enable my team to take Baron when I have Redemption because he does so much damage plus the debuff. I. AM. THE FOUNTAIN! PS: I’m surprised you didn’t take 3rd ability first with Swain.
Could you run something like Ingenius Hunter, to reduce the CD time of Redemption maybe ? while building tons of HP, warmog I think would come in nicely here. Not only you're healing yourself, you're healing your teammates too
@@Krek_ori I would argue it's not good enough scaling on most champions and would prefer to have actual defenses by mid to late game which is when you would finish both items. Swain also scales hp on passive so you see the effect on redemption and makes sense to scale as much hp as possible. Also J4 is good since he stacks heartsteel so easily and can survive through mobility alone.
If you plan on building heartsteel and redemption, I think 90% of the time redemption first is better... Think of the extra sustain (especially as support) 1 item heartsteel is gonna increase chances of securing a kill at slightly, IF and only IF the enemy makes a mistake and let's you kill them... while having redemption, standing next to your ally, and spamming abilities, can be the entire reason you get 2 kills without the enemy having counter play, the extra mana is an extra rotating of cooldowns every fight, while the constant healing during the battle... only at 4/5 items will you actually realise the benefits from going hearsteel first into redemption for increased healing... obviously if you are jungle or baron, then ignore this entire comment, but I'm speaking solely for support... if you plan on getting redemption at all, get it first item no matter what 👌 think of those 2v2 battles where the champion who had plants had the advantage.. well now you are those plants, for the entire duration of laning phase
You explained it well but as broken stated on the last video if you take redemption first you'll need to leave heartsteel out of the equation since on your first two items as tank you won't have any armor stats 🤷🏻♂️
All people suggesting heart steel + redemption but you maybe forget that if you're a tank you'll probably gonna take load of damage and without any kind of armor for the first 10 mins... Well you're going to be useless 😁 If you take the redemption path heartsteel it's not a good choice as first item and since taking it as second will delay you so much on the stacks, it's going to become useless... My boy kerx here maxxing Q instead of E it's another arguable choice but hey he's the pro and I'm the grandma'scheesecake adept so nevermind ❤
I'm just quoting broken supp on his maokai video... Minute 2:58 "If you plan to get redemption forget to buy heartsteel (unless you're swain)" . Don't hate me 😅
Heartsteel + Redemption + Titanic Hydra can literally be built on any champion to make them an insane tank stacking infinite hp, infinite scaling ad, and infinite constant healing for his entire team...not to mention the bonus damage from Titanic and hydra procs during battle, the stats alone are insane... You build 0 damage items and do more sustained dps then any full build bruiser in the game... as a squishy ap champion... riot have completely nerfed this game into absolute arcade nonsense... in their patchs notes they speak alot of rubbish about balance, but in actual reality they create it so there are only about 10 items in the entire game that are viable options, the rest are just a waste of data when you update every patch 😅😅 there are no assigned roles or champion types anymore.... its got to the point building wrong is the only build... fizz with Titanic, heartsteel, redemption, twinguard and warmogs is completely troll useless build for an ap assasin, at the same time it's the strongest build possible to him and he eats enemy champions as if they are fish bait, 0 ults necessary on a champion fully designed around the use of his ult.. pure stupidity, that's the only thing riot devs can truly claim
Also psychic projecter (instead of TH). I had 1 game where it was worth building PP with Tank Sion as the ennemy team had a lot of DOTs and no anti shield. (great item for Sion but situational)
I 10000000% agree with this post, heartsteel broke the game, i've been playing since season 1 and the game has been the least fun with this garbage item in it
Broken ... until you realise giant slayer gives 16% bonus damage against you, and in the way of building this, you have only HP so you get cooked, fast. Better forget the heartsteel and rush redemption and a tank item that gives armor/magic resistance and some kind of damage like dawnshroud. Feel free to tell me what you think about my thought. Thanks for the video tho. P.S : I used to play lethal j4 support, with electrocute you can nuke the ennemy adc, lvl 5 even better but cheesy af lol.
c'mon, then your redemption will be useless, why you even build that if you don't go heartsteel at least, I don't even talk about revitalize rune and boots enchant worst strat i ever heard don't be scared of giant slayer rune buff, its not that high, you still can buy resistance, but 3 item or just go heartsteel + resistances and then redemption
@@keyboard- jeah but normally i have to buy Thornmail and Frozen Heart. Then some Magic restist force of nature. And then Most of the time i Go for the Item that gives Ally a shield. But hey If U want to max the healing that OK. Everybody can do what He wants. Xd
Now if the Swain was to sell support item and buy ardent censer, then they get 16-40% attack speed on heals for 6 seconds. Redemption pulses every 5 seconds. You're fucked.
Broken Support where?
Every match where the ADC feeds... The supp will end mentally broken 🙃😅
he's a small youtube content creator 😊😊
Use heartsteel, redemption, dawnshroud, and amaranth/mantle on rakan, the healing is wild, dash in, take dmg, cc, dash out, heal backline till your cds are up, dash in, ez pz wins, you can even just skip heartsteel if you want to go dawn mantle and amaranth, it still works
I like AP Rakan any ideas how to make a tank AP maybe the other new item that converts health to AP?
Its useless when your team has 0 map awarenesss as an lvl 200 player
To go down the even more degen route, go harmonic and redemption
The base healing of these two items are insane
Also use Ingenious Hunter rune to reduce the Redemption cooldown to ~5sec.
It also reduce Heartsteel, Dawnshroud and Mantle's cooldown.
It also reduce the boots enchant cooldown, which can be nice if you use Locket or Spellblock (Veil) over the Revival enchant.
Ingenious Hunter rune is one of these niche runes who can be godly with the right build, but almost nobody use it.
Bro tank soraka and hybrid sera are broken with this item harmonic and psychic projector. Ur team is immortal. Please try it. Arcane comet. Tank runes with ingenious hunter. Harmonic into redemption into psychic into the tank item that when u ult creates a blizzard and buffs your highes ad teammate
Zekes Convergence
Finally someone who mention Ingenious Hunter rune 👍
This rune really flys miles above most players radar^^
What the fuck
Naw not the seraphine for me she’s better than a heal bot
The heart steel seems like a really good idea for the infinite scaling but even base value with item haste it’s a lot. I feel like redemption + warmogs might just be better or redemption + spirit visage considering you take overgrowth.
Im a fan of broken support too! 🙌🏻 cuz of him i rank up fast 🤙🏻
14:58 pure masterclass moment ggs🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Redemption on Swain is SO broken. I started playing Swain before Redemption became Redemption because I was sick of being one shot as a Nami main. I love that Swain is an AP tank. I get the skill shot aspect I have always played since I started a little over a year ago, and I can take damage. I feel like itemization for tanks is a little simpler too.
I love that I can also better enable my team to take Baron when I have Redemption because he does so much damage plus the debuff.
I. AM. THE FOUNTAIN!
PS: I’m surprised you didn’t take 3rd ability first with Swain.
Ornn support eating good this patch, have you tried it on maokai?
Could you run something like Ingenius Hunter, to reduce the CD time of Redemption maybe ?
while building tons of HP, warmog I think would come in nicely here. Not only you're healing yourself, you're healing your teammates too
He's running it, he mentions his Redemption's cd is at 5.5s on game one (thanks to ingenious hunter)
@@ulamgexe7442 Ah I see, thanks
I dont think u should build heartsteel +redemption(except
On swain) on suport
Reason: buffed Giant Slayer 😢
redemption scales with hp ofc u stack hp
@@Krek_ori I would argue it's not good enough scaling on most champions and would prefer to have actual defenses by mid to late game which is when you would finish both items. Swain also scales hp on passive so you see the effect on redemption and makes sense to scale as much hp as possible. Also J4 is good since he stacks heartsteel so easily and can survive through mobility alone.
Mayhe u can do the mana item and then heartsteal?(i really hate mana issues)
You need to improve decision making if you're main issue is mana.
Mana item is good but useless if you simply spam without reason.
I have tried this many times. But whenever I go Heartsteel after, I die very easily.
You really need some armor and mr.
Otherwise you're useless.
Imagine sion adc with senna support sion has redemption. I guess u can go this item on sion as a last item baron lane
If you plan on building heartsteel and redemption, I think 90% of the time redemption first is better...
Think of the extra sustain (especially as support) 1 item heartsteel is gonna increase chances of securing a kill at slightly, IF and only IF the enemy makes a mistake and let's you kill them... while having redemption, standing next to your ally, and spamming abilities, can be the entire reason you get 2 kills without the enemy having counter play, the extra mana is an extra rotating of cooldowns every fight, while the constant healing during the battle... only at 4/5 items will you actually realise the benefits from going hearsteel first into redemption for increased healing... obviously if you are jungle or baron, then ignore this entire comment, but I'm speaking solely for support... if you plan on getting redemption at all, get it first item no matter what 👌 think of those 2v2 battles where the champion who had plants had the advantage.. well now you are those plants, for the entire duration of laning phase
the worst idea is to buy redemption first, what a joke 😂😂😂
You explained it well but as broken stated on the last video if you take redemption first you'll need to leave heartsteel out of the equation since on your first two items as tank you won't have any armor stats 🤷🏻♂️
Jarvan 4 need mana items or u cant do nothing ! Like leona u need mana to fight over 30 seconds teamfights
36:13 tell me you don’t know the guy that does satisfying for men videos😂😂
I think of this on nasus support
All people suggesting heart steel + redemption but you maybe forget that if you're a tank you'll probably gonna take load of damage and without any kind of armor for the first 10 mins... Well you're going to be useless 😁
If you take the redemption path heartsteel it's not a good choice as first item and since taking it as second will delay you so much on the stacks, it's going to become useless...
My boy kerx here maxxing Q instead of E it's another arguable choice but hey he's the pro and I'm the grandma'scheesecake adept so nevermind ❤
I'm just quoting broken supp on his maokai video... Minute 2:58
"If you plan to get redemption forget to buy heartsteel (unless you're swain)" .
Don't hate me 😅
Imagine a yumi with this… if she gets it 2nd or 3rd item it’s going to make her healing sustain so much more annoying
Such a bad idea.
@@jessco8950 i think it’s doesn’t work you have to be arround your mate not on him
Eehehe enemy support was actually nr. 1 jarv supp on eu server xD
Of course you're in a party. I'll just pretend i didn't saw this.
Bro u r partial mundo
Heartsteel + Redemption + Titanic Hydra can literally be built on any champion to make them an insane tank stacking infinite hp, infinite scaling ad, and infinite constant healing for his entire team...not to mention the bonus damage from Titanic and hydra procs during battle, the stats alone are insane...
You build 0 damage items and do more sustained dps then any full build bruiser in the game... as a squishy ap champion... riot have completely nerfed this game into absolute arcade nonsense... in their patchs notes they speak alot of rubbish about balance, but in actual reality they create it so there are only about 10 items in the entire game that are viable options, the rest are just a waste of data when you update every patch 😅😅 there are no assigned roles or champion types anymore.... its got to the point building wrong is the only build... fizz with Titanic, heartsteel, redemption, twinguard and warmogs is completely troll useless build for an ap assasin, at the same time it's the strongest build possible to him and he eats enemy champions as if they are fish bait, 0 ults necessary on a champion fully designed around the use of his ult.. pure stupidity, that's the only thing riot devs can truly claim
yeah I only build this path currently on every ad champ, and some AP like swain, akali etc
Also psychic projecter (instead of TH). I had 1 game where it was worth building PP with Tank Sion as the ennemy team had a lot of DOTs and no anti shield. (great item for Sion but situational)
I 10000000% agree with this post, heartsteel broke the game, i've been playing since season 1 and the game has been the least fun with this garbage item in it
thats why i really love and support @BrokenSupport ❤❤❤
Lmao im already doing this since the release of the new patch.
Broken ... until you realise giant slayer gives 16% bonus damage against you, and in the way of building this, you have only HP so you get cooked, fast. Better forget the heartsteel and rush redemption and a tank item that gives armor/magic resistance and some kind of damage like dawnshroud. Feel free to tell me what you think about my thought. Thanks for the video tho.
P.S : I used to play lethal j4 support, with electrocute you can nuke the ennemy adc, lvl 5 even better but cheesy af lol.
I dont Like heartsteel either with this Item
c'mon, then your redemption will be useless, why you even build that if you don't go heartsteel at least, I don't even talk about revitalize rune and boots enchant
worst strat i ever heard
don't be scared of giant slayer rune buff, its not that high, you still can buy resistance, but 3 item or just go heartsteel + resistances and then redemption
@@keyboard- jeah but normally i have to buy Thornmail and Frozen Heart. Then some Magic restist force of nature. And then Most of the time i Go for the Item that gives Ally a shield. But hey If U want to max the healing that OK. Everybody can do what He wants. Xd
Hi
i dunno what devs were thinking while creating this item of abomination?😂
not on PC or mobile, all players are trolls😂
This is broken support 😂
Im his secret cousin ..
First
The heal is max 400 every 5 seconds. Its not op
The OP part that it's constant and definitely helps in team fights
I just think your kinda slow go play Roblox seems more your speed
@@DanielAlvarez-nq9hb im slow because i said the heal is only 400 every 5 seconds? HOW🤣🤣🤣
Now if the Swain was to sell support item and buy ardent censer, then they get 16-40% attack speed on heals for 6 seconds.
Redemption pulses every 5 seconds.
You're fucked.