The mirage 2 is literally my dream head and with a carbon 2 shaft perfect stick for me bc I have fast hands I’m and o mid and I know how to shoot really well
I cant decide what i should do im a d mid and i currently have the rebel offense and cf5 pre made stick and i want to get i head that i can have a mid pocket on the deeper side while still being legal got any suggestions
We have tested most of our heads in our Flexfrom material and have found it to be awesome but we want to offer a variety of heads that cater to different styles of players.
@@ECD understood. I’ve always liked how STX will make some of their defensive heads in their usual plastic AND their enduraform plastic so different people had different options, but different companies do different things and I love what you guys are doing. Will ECD ever bring back Graphene heads?
LSM using Maverik Tank on Carbon Pro 3.0. Love the Tank but love ECD Company and equipment even more and want to switch over. Do you Recommend the Rebel or the DNA?
I also play attack, I play wing so I mainly shoot. I’m gonna buy a mirage 2.0 and pair it with a carbon 3.0 because of the flex form I can shoot really fast. I’m gonna string it mid-high which is in the middle, for good shot and decent handles. Don’t string low for attack because if you are shooting a lot it will decrease the power a lot. This is my main issue with my maverick optik 3.0 head.
I am an incoming 9th grader who is about to buy a carbon 3.0 and mirage 2.0. Is this a good mix/choice for an wing attackmen who likes to shoot? I was thinking the carbon would be good because of the way it flexes. If so, how should I string it? Also, how does the graphene mirage differ from the normal black/white mirage?
I’m an LSM/Faceoff player. Should I get the DNA or Weapon X? I don’t need to be clamping down on the ball so I don’t think it’s necessary to have the Weapon X. I’m just not sure.
Most likely weapon X. Weapon X is a good head that can throw, shoot, and bend if you need it. I have a DNA head, and their heads land more on the heavier side of lacrosse heads and it doesn't want to bend either. So I'd go Weapon X as a safe choice.
If you're an LSM get the DNA. I'm guessing you're not full time face off, so for longevity the DNA will probably be better for you. If you are full time face off then maybe the Weapon X but that the face off position is changing to where clamps are used less.
What is the difference between a mid to mid-low pocket and a mid to mid-high pocket. Does a mid-high pocket have more whip or a faster release? I'm using a dna right now with a mid to mid-low pocket. Im not liking the weight of the dna so I'm looking to changing to a different head/pocket combo!
The placement of the pocket in the head changes how long it takes for the ball to leave your stick and that usually effects how/ where you snap your wrists in space in front of your body and how much you pull with your bottom hand. A lower pocket takes longer for the ball to leave the head given the channel is the same tightness as a higher pocket: this effect makes the ball come out at shallower angle and creates the perception of less whip.
It's all about how the ball catches and releases out of the pocket one style of pocket doesn't have more whip per say. Its truly all in the way it's strung and the tension used while stringing
@@cameronsilvestri3724 I don't recommend it. Trying to bend your mirage is a horrible idea. I have a Mirage and I was forced to do faceoffs this one game. The sidewalls broke :(. I know the MIrage 2.0 is a new stick but I wouldn't want to risk it.
I would probably so Rebel O would be the best for your specific case with the lightweight and not super pinched face shape it will allow you to get the ball in and out fast
Face off heads will have a higher failure rate when comparing to other position specific heads as they go through the most abuse. Where most attack men can just go shoot for reps faceoff guys have to get nitty gritty bending those heads to put in reps
I can’t decide between the mirage, rebel, or DNA. I play mostly middie with a little defense and more attack then defense. What head is for me? I will probably go with the DNA though because of it’s all around design. Edit: I also want a mid-mid high pocket
Yes DNA is a very good head for that but just think of your past heads and their shape and which ones you liked the most and then incorporate what you did not like about those heads into this video and then pick a head that has the same look a like to your older heads and DNA has that mid to high pocket which is very good for all potions. Like he said it has bean played with at every potion. So the DNA or rebel are good heads for you.
@@codawaygross I will go with the dna purely for the flex-form plastic because I play u12 and theres a lot of contact and you never know what position you will play.
They both have a very similar face shape and design, the main difference is the type of plastic. so if you don't mind the weight, the DNA would be perfect for you. If weight is a big deal for you it has to be the rebel. I play two-way middie and love my DNA
I'm a 2-way middie that's going to switch to lsm next season and I currently use the warrior evo 5. Does you guys think that would be okay for lsm or should I get a different head.
That a tough call to make, if everything seems to be in good condition and works for you don't change it yet. When you notice things start to feel off or you can notice your head is getting a lot softer then might be the better time to change.
But make it better and name it different would be awesome, or just reproduce the expect same design and head and ask for a patent for making them. To bad they don't sell and make them anymore. 😍🥍 Or I should try out that new 2-bomb beast mirage 2.0
Now we need one about all of the ECD shafts
Great suggestion! Will add that to our docket
Got a mirage 2.0 with a carbon 3.0 shaft and hero 3 and it’s absolutely amazing!!!!
Love to hear that!
What position?
@@Middyman43most likely middie or attack prob attack
You guys should do an updated Bryan Costabile stringing tutorial with his mirage 2
We are working on that soon!
You know what you should make, An update of the element onset. 😍😍
That's my go to head: stiff, good pinched face shape, offset.
The mirage 2 is literally my dream head and with a carbon 2 shaft perfect stick for me bc I have fast hands I’m and o mid and I know how to shoot really well
It sounds like a dream set up!
Put the Mirage 2.0 on a Carbon 3.0 60inch and i love it for lsm it’s great for transition and is stiff enough to play good defense
I have seen that a few times! I still think personally the DNA is the better option in the long run for any LSM
@@ECD The DNA material is so nice because it doesn’t warp.
Our goal is to keep finding the best plastics to push the gear to their limits.
I have almost all of those heads except the rebel d and mirage 1 and I have to say my personal favorite is the DNA
Love to hear that!
I was wondering if the mirage is good for running the ball up and Down the field and shooting or does that depend on how you string it?
all about the pocket, i love how it shoots and throws
Wheres my faceoff guys at?
Here
Right here
Yessir
Here
Could you use the mirage 2.0 for two way middies
Please review Rebel O and CF5 complete stick!
What would you like to see in the review? Have you seen the inside the product for the CF5 and Rebel items by themselves ?
Anyone have a good mid pocket pattern for a bravo 1?
Use the mirage pattern on ecd
Top string on 2nd
Loop start on 3rd
0,knot,0knot,0,knot,1,1, 2 skip,1 skip, ending 1
@@ECD is a 0 a skip? Just wondering
Im a 2 way middie and the mirage is perfect for shooting on the run
Its the perfect fit!
I cant decide what i should do im a d mid and i currently have the rebel offense and cf5 pre made stick and i want to get i head that i can have a mid pocket on the deeper side while still being legal got any suggestions
Hi ECDLax, would you guys ever consider making the Rebel D in FlexForm plastic so people still get the wide face shape but added durability?
We have tested most of our heads in our Flexfrom material and have found it to be awesome but we want to offer a variety of heads that cater to different styles of players.
@@ECD understood. I’ve always liked how STX will make some of their defensive heads in their usual plastic AND their enduraform plastic so different people had different options, but different companies do different things and I love what you guys are doing. Will ECD ever bring back Graphene heads?
Bought the ecd target and it came today 😀
I still ain’t seeing the head that’s right for me. Gotta rep the goalies
Soon (they’re working on it)
No time table on a release yet but its no secret one is in the works
@@ECD I’d say the Nemisis 3 and the Eclipse 2 are the two best goalie heads on the market I can’t wait to see what you guys put out for the goalies!
I use the eclipse 2. For the stringing I use 2 u’s
I’m a goalie but I like shooting in my backyard, do you suggest the mirage 2 or the dna
Mirage 2.0 if it solely for shooting
Thanks
LSM using Maverik Tank on Carbon Pro 3.0. Love the Tank but love ECD Company and equipment even more and want to switch over. Do you Recommend the Rebel or the DNA?
I would recommend the rebel defense. The DNA is very pinched and not very stiff compared to the tank. Rebel D will be more familiar.
I got a Mirage 2.0 and I’m wondering if a mid or mid low pocket would be able to be strung for attack? Is it possible based on the head’s shape?
I also play attack, I play wing so I mainly shoot. I’m gonna buy a mirage 2.0 and pair it with a carbon 3.0 because of the flex form I can shoot really fast. I’m gonna string it mid-high which is in the middle, for good shot and decent handles. Don’t string low for attack because if you are shooting a lot it will decrease the power a lot. This is my main issue with my maverick optik 3.0 head.
@@dylanplayshockey Yep I figured that out the hard way. Getting it restrung with a mid pocket for junior szn.
Awesome explanation 👍
Glad you think so! Hopefully this helps narrow down your search for your next head.
I'm a d pole but I like to use a pinched maverick middi head witch one should I use
How pinched of a head are you looking for ?
Nothing to jurassic its just like a normal wide top with about 4 inches of space where the ball sits
wich head do you think would go best with the carbon 3 shaft
What position? All of our heads will fit on the Carbon 3. I would not recommend a weapon x on any carbon fiber shafts
Which of these heads is best for one a SSDM and which is best for a two way mid that plays an even amount of time on both sides of the ball?
DNA
@@ECD does the extra weight of the dna reduce shot speed and release time?
For middie should I get the rebel o or the mirage 2
Either option is solid. If you are looking for a head with more pinch then the Mirage 2.0 would be the better fit
I am an incoming 9th grader who is about to buy a carbon 3.0 and mirage 2.0. Is this a good mix/choice for an wing attackmen who likes to shoot? I was thinking the carbon would be good because of the way it flexes. If so, how should I string it? Also, how does the graphene mirage differ from the normal black/white mirage?
Question: Is it true that you guys are stopping production of the Original Mirage?
We are not going to be making more of them. That would be correct.
I’m an LSM/Faceoff player. Should I get the DNA or Weapon X? I don’t need to be clamping down on the ball so I don’t think it’s necessary to have the Weapon X. I’m just not sure.
Most likely weapon X. Weapon X is a good head that can throw, shoot, and bend if you need it. I have a DNA head, and their heads land more on the heavier side of lacrosse heads and it doesn't want to bend either. So I'd go Weapon X as a safe choice.
If you're an LSM get the DNA. I'm guessing you're not full time face off, so for longevity the DNA will probably be better for you. If you are full time face off then maybe the Weapon X but that the face off position is changing to where clamps are used less.
What is the difference between a mid to mid-low pocket and a mid to mid-high pocket. Does a mid-high pocket have more whip or a faster release? I'm using a dna right now with a mid to mid-low pocket. Im not liking the weight of the dna so I'm looking to changing to a different head/pocket combo!
Same. I'd might go Mirage 2.0 or Rebel O
The placement of the pocket in the head changes how long it takes for the ball to leave your stick and that usually effects how/ where you snap your wrists in space in front of your body and how much you pull with your bottom hand. A lower pocket takes longer for the ball to leave the head given the channel is the same tightness as a higher pocket: this effect makes the ball come out at shallower angle and creates the perception of less whip.
It's all about how the ball catches and releases out of the pocket one style of pocket doesn't have more whip per say. Its truly all in the way it's strung and the tension used while stringing
I bought a white weapon x when it first came out, but the white color has become yellow over the months, is it because of FlexForm?
Flex from can have slight color changes but it does not affect the performance of the head.
@@ECD I am sad that it looks terrible now, I wish I bought the black one :(
i love my mirage 2.0 but next year can you please make a flex form mirage
Is it bendy?
@@aidanobrien9122 no preety stiff but it will warp over time i bet
@@cameronsilvestri3724 I don't recommend it. Trying to bend your mirage is a horrible idea. I have a Mirage and I was forced to do faceoffs this one game. The sidewalls broke :(. I know the MIrage 2.0 is a new stick but I wouldn't want to risk it.
We learned a lot since the first Mirage.. This won't noodle out
@@ECD plz do it
Are you going to the stadium tournament at Annapolis high school on. Nov24
We are not, most tournaments have been cancelled in the state of Maryland due to the current rise in covid cases
I use the dna 2.0 for attack
honestly a great pick if you like the stiffness
Need a new video including the ion
I play midfield and I want to do face offs but my head was too stiff. I play on both sides of the field. What head would you recommend
I think the weapon X is going to be your best bet
For a crease/x attackman what would you recommend? The mirage or the offense?
Mirage,it’s stiffer
I would lean towards the Rebel O and Mirage 2.0 the decision would be on how tight of a face shape you want.
Pop out to the famous autum classic this weekend
if i put a ecd rebel offense head on a ecd carbon pro 2.0 shaft will it fit good so i can use it?
It will be a perfect match!
@@ECD thank you
For middie should I get a rebel or migrage
You could use either !
I play attack and I love my weapon x
What?
I am an attack man who is physical and shoots mostly inside shots what head(s) would you recommend? (Preferably one with good hold)
I would say MTX paired with the Mirage 2.0
Wich one of your head do you recommand for box lacrosse
DNA
Weird question but why aren’t you including the mirage 1.0?
It has been replaced but the 2.0
What’s best for a quarterback x attack
I would probably so Rebel O would be the best for your specific case with the lightweight and not super pinched face shape it will allow you to get the ball in and out fast
Does anyone know where I can get a dyed DNA online?
Lacrosse unlimited. Zap Lacrosse also does amazing dye work
Wich would be the best head for box lacrosse
We recommend the DNA for box
I actually like my long pole with repel offence
What about the bravo 1
Does anyone have a better range of heads than ECD
Aye! We appreciate that! But still trying to add one more big one to fill in the complete line
Thanks ecd I have a Rebel offense and love it
I’m a transition middy and it’s stiff enough to check also has a great area to string
A goalie head?
is the lakota u similar to the rebel o?
Not really. Geared towards a similar position but that is about it
I will show this to my friends
Great idea!
I’m debating the mirage 2 or the kinetik 2.0
Mirage 2
Mirage 2.0 It's a NO Brainer
@@ECD Yesir
Review on the X20???
Coming soon
I need to restring my rebel. Haven’t since last summer
It sounds like it might be time! Big news coming soon you might want to wait for
Love your videos almost as much as I love to play lacrosse
Wow that is a lot!
i had 2 weapon x's and they broke in the same spot on the left side
Face off heads will have a higher failure rate when comparing to other position specific heads as they go through the most abuse. Where most attack men can just go shoot for reps faceoff guys have to get nitty gritty bending those heads to put in reps
Any good d mid options?
Highly recommend the DNA
Is ECD working on a goalie head?
Yes
You know it!
@@ECD Wicked
could it also depend on how you want it strung???
Yes that is also a key factor when choosing what head is right for you
Next highlight tape you should use rescue by johnny2 phones for the audio!! Love the vids!!
I'll check it out!
Realy cool
We need the rebel g now
It might just be time for a project beta!
Wish I saw this before they had a goalie head so I could comment “which one of these should I use for goalie?”
I can’t decide between the mirage, rebel, or DNA. I play mostly middie with a little defense and more attack then defense. What head is for me? I will probably go with the DNA though because of it’s all around design.
Edit: I also want a mid-mid high pocket
Yes DNA is a very good head for that but just think of your past heads and their shape and which ones you liked the most and then incorporate what you did not like about those heads into this video and then pick a head that has the same look a like to your older heads and DNA has that mid to high pocket which is very good for all potions. Like he said it has bean played with at every potion. So the DNA or rebel are good heads for you.
@@codawaygross I will go with the dna purely for the flex-form plastic because I play u12 and theres a lot of contact and you never know what position you will play.
They both have a very similar face shape and design, the main difference is the type of plastic. so if you don't mind the weight, the DNA would be perfect for you. If weight is a big deal for you it has to be the rebel.
I play two-way middie and love my DNA
@@diederikboonman4845 I don’t mind weight I just want a good solid head for all positions
@@RealJawnes then the DNA is definitely your head!
I like my DNA a lot, but I'm an attackman, and I do want a lighter head for shooting. I'm on the fence between a Rebel O and a Mirage 2.0
Mirage 2.0 the rebel O is good but the mirage 2.0 is way lighter and built more for attakman.
Either way you can't pick wrong!
I'm a 2-way middie that's going to switch to lsm next season and I currently use the warrior evo 5. Does you guys think that would be okay for lsm or should I get a different head.
That a tough call to make, if everything seems to be in good condition and works for you don't change it yet. When you notice things start to feel off or you can notice your head is getting a lot softer then might be the better time to change.
@@ECD thanks for the advice
Hi
Hey!
I have a raw DNA, can’t wait to grab a mirage 2
I think imma buy a DNA for LSM
You will love it! Stay tuned for a big holiday special coming next week
But make it better and name it different would be awesome, or just reproduce the expect same design and head and ask for a patent for making them.
To bad they don't sell and make them anymore.
😍🥍
Or I should try out that new 2-bomb beast mirage 2.0
Rebel O all the way
Solid choice!
Myles Jones replica plz
Something better is coming soon....
@@ECD with all due respect Greg.... no.
What about me I am a LSM
Rebel Defense or DNA
Ok
You should make a goalie head
We are ! Hoping to have one finished by next year!
mirage 2
🔥🦀🔥
Where’s the goalie head?
In the works...
@@ECD HMU if you want some “independent product testing”
Can I get a free ion
Lol I wish we could give everyone freebies!
First
Y’all are fr cheating goalies out
Nope, we are working on it with some of the best in the game. We got you guys
Hi
Hey Jackson! What's going on?
Nothin much how about u
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