This was the best summary on why JWs are not from God. It was straightforward and accurate. I regret the time I spent in the organization and the damage it did to my family.
58:26 Piñatas… I remember as a child that this was a frowned upon or verboten party substance, but never knew of any reference or guidance from the “Organization” on this. I have been thusly educated. Pretty much any party has been stained as an event to be avoided. Thanks, Governing Body for the plethora of lifelong scars.
You have become one of my most favorite host, been looking forward to hearing from you all week, even checked your channel late last night to ensure myself I hadn't missed a post. Love your voice, your thoughts and your channel.
Yep, the truth hitting us in the face all these years and we knew something was off but we had no idea how off it was and still defended it. Took me 58 years......ugh. I think I was always labeled as negative because I couldn't understand why we covered things over and how bad the elders were. The lack of love is astounding and oh all the rules. I love listening to you and we do have to laugh about it as it really is a lot to process.
That lack of love was one of the biggest reasons I headed for the door. It's astounding to watch/see.....even a long time 'loyal servant' can be treated so poorly
Hi Stacy. Thank you for your channel. You’re right, JWs don’t follow the Bible. I joined in my 30’s because I was convinced they did. It took me another 30 years to accept that I was in a cult. I left 4 years ago. No regrets. I saw so many red flags I thought I was in a parade! Keep up the thoughtful comments, I’ll be listening.
I usually listen to this on Spotify, but I like to pop over here to hit like and comment for the Almighty Algorithm. I love it when you go deep into a rant- the passion I can hear behind your words is quite endearing. You have *the best voice* in the exjw game, and you also present as a solidly good and kind man.
Exactly! The bible wasn't enough so for charles taze russell the origional faithful and discreet slave he could only figure it out though using the pyramid to 'proove' the dates he was 'prophesying'!
Thank you so much for doing this podcast. I don't know how you did it, but you were able to put into words what I always thought, but was unable to define. I always kept my hair short when I was PIMI and I actually got counseled for having my hair too short, an elder told me I look like a Nazi and would if a person sees me who went through the war out in service? I remember thinking that that's not in the bible? And I totally remember mandrakes, I still don't know what the F they are?
Thanks Bron and I appreciate you listening. Ah yes, mandrakes!!! I had someone close to me (female), cut her hair short and it was actually an agenda item at an elder's meeting.....insane!
HOLY HELL!!!!! did you just start this year!! This is my first podcast that I’ve listen from you. My wife and I woke up together three years ago and pulled our family of three children out. You just got another subscriber and I can’t wait to listen to your previous videos!!
Hello there Stacy! Your channel is growing. I subscribed before you got to 1,000 subs. I came back today and you’re over that number. Congratulations! 🎉
Same here. I went through HS without enjoying a single activity...😔 I would've wanted to join sports, go to Homecoming, Jr. and Sr. Proms. 😔 My Parents were so Super JWs, that if back then there would've been homeschooling, for sure they would've pulled us all kids out of regular school.
It's funny brotha you're breaking down why I left ... anytime I'm asked I say oh I don't worship men ... you find a way to put it in hour long videos and I love it
@@survivingparadisepodcast exactly! I just want you to know how much I enjoy and appreciate your videos. Your honesty and candid is so refreshing and it makes me see that others feel the same way as I do!
Matthew 28:18 Baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. If you go beyond what is written you baptize in the name of Jehovah, Jesus, and the organization. Check it out!
This 1977 movie, Saturday Night Fever (R) had a scene in it showing the Watchtower Brooklyn Building. Yes, I saw this movie and was counseled for it. Great podcast, now I feel like disco-ing to Bee Gees music and beat a pinata. Pinatas are now allowed (an un-re-unwritten rule) according to an early 2000 Awake Magazine. Anyone have a bottle of MaCallan, I feel like partying!
I remembered the 70s when we were condemned for having Rock or any kind of posters on our walls, especially Autographed! It was Creature Worship! Ive been out for 20 years and can't believe how different Watchtower is now. I'm glad it's getting obvious that it's a cult. The teens leave ASAP along with others waking up. With all levels of age, from 1 to 100 in Watchtower, its Astronomically the younger ones leaving. Now that raises Astronomically the age average in the Kingdom Halls. So if the average age is 40, and Watchtower isn't getting hardly anyone to join anymore, How long will it take for, sadly to say, but how long untill Watchtower has no living members? If you read this and are currently a JW, I'm not your enemy. I'm just a man that woke up. "If it's the Truth it can stand up to question, If it's not the Truth it SHOULD be questioned!!!! Be blessed. Someday I'd enjoy having a conversation with you. I must say my friend,,, you have the very best radio voice and the perfect personality to match. Thank you for all the informative videos
Thanks Danny! You're too kind! I was one of those kids too....I had the posters and once had an elder visit and counsel me on my Sammy Hagar, Standing Hampton cassette tape cover. NOT kidding!! LOL
What’s so funny about this is that most of the elders that I happen to know around my age which is about yours Stacy , is that they all went to discos and clubs in that era ! It’s a shame most of them haven’t woke up yet ! But these videos of yours can definitely help them wake up !
Most are slowly lulled into the 'habit' of being a JW and you're right: many of the guys serving today are my age and we had all kinds of fun back in the day!
I love the way you break things down. There are so many concepts as to what is wrong with this religion. Not just one thing. It's the fact that they don't follow the bible. Yeah they follow the obvious morals, but every Christian religion does. But when it comes to there "unique" beliefs are no where in the bible. Oh scriptures can be pieced together to vaguely prove there "unique" teachings. And the amazing thing is EVERY one of their "unique" teachings can be proven wrong from the bible!
Wow...autographing the word of God. Really shouldn't be surprised they do say they substitute for Christ and they are the G-guardiands O-of D-doctrine.
@@survivingparadisepodcast I can't take credit for the acronym .. it was in fact Geoffey Jackson himself that called the Govening body Guardians of doctrine in his testimony at the Australian Royal Commission.
@@anniesavedbygrace His entire testimony on the stand in Australia is one of the most damning, hideous lies I've ever seen. Most JW"s don't even know about it....and the Governing Body literally sits there and lies on the stand. Not to mention how utterly unimpressive he was as a 'teacher' or speaker
Everything you say is true. You could speak on the details of how they go beyond what is written for YEARS! One thing that bothered me was that men had to have short hair. Some guys look great with long hair. The elders went around the hall nagging guys about their hair starting to inch toward their ears or collars. They railed about it in talks. Jesus & all the men of old had long hair & the bible says DONT CUT IT! Where do they get off? Portland had a music & dancing culture among JW's that I didnt experience anywhere else. The Bee Gees were huge! Did you know the Strand brothers or the Fogelquist girls? I went from that to a very rural area with small congregations spread about 30 miles apart. No dancing, no music. Only at a rare wedding. The single pioneer sisters in my congregation once wrote & dirrected a bible drama for the young people in our area. The kids all got to together several times for rehearsals, coming from miles around. It was beautiful. There was no trouble. The only time in 11 yrs they got together. After it was over, we were all in trouble. Especially the brother who allowed us to use the historic old theater stage in the upstairs of his home! He moved away! They would have passed out if they even knew I had always worn 2 piece bathing suits growing up on the west coast! I was made to buy a one piece. It was a strange combo of being in a small town where everyone saw all you did, & doing things secretly because you had NO CONTACT with other kids. It was soul killing for young people. They all grew up & left as fast as possible. So sad & SCARRING.
Sorry, to go on...but that town & congregation nearly cost me my life. I came very close to suicide. One thing saved me. I made the 1st worldly friend of my young adult life there. A man in his 60's who was a true horseman & had raised 4 daughters of his own. I exercised his roping horses & the young ones he had in training for other people after he was injured in a heavy equipment accident. He was such a great man & a born teacher. After he passed, I found out that he had saved my last message to him, written on the chalkboard in his barn where he drew diagrams for his roping students & communicated with me when we missed each other, as I rode a lot while he was at work. He saved that message for 25 yrs! And THAT is the difference between a JW cult & a "worldly" person! Very telling.
So sorry Heather, I'm just seeing these posts!! :( I hate to read of the misery so many people suffered with; it's so painful! Portland did have a big dancing and roller skating culture for the young people. I don't recognize any of those names; what part of the city?
Where I'm the watchtower translation did it say the bible student leaders where chosen by God? And if he did where did it say they have authority to discipline people on private thoughts? I think thought that verse said something about feeding, not punishment
Nowhere. It's all tied to 1919 and as this episode goes into.....they can add and take away from the Bible at will. Never mind that it completely breaks god's commands......they are above god LOL
You hit the nail on the head at @ 32 to 33 minutes in on the 2008 Watchtower reference!! Oh my goodness! I laughed for a full minute!😅😆🤣 I guess when you live with your head up your butt, (like the governing body), everything looks fine! Though I had that scripture in my list of scriptures to reprove the 3 stooges on my committee; seeing it in context with only ONE SENTENCE REMOVED from their statement completely contradicting the previous sentence just blew my mind!
Hi Stacy, I'm looking for the quote that says something to the effect of: "Bible understanding belongs to the Christian congregation alone." Could you please help me out with this one?
Here are a couple for you: United in Worship Book, page 111: "Special attention was being given to making up the government that would rule mankind for 1,000 years, and nearly all the inspired letters in the Christian Greek Scriptures are primarily directed to this group of Kingdom heirs - "the holy ones," "partakers of the heavenly calling." One more: "Also, it is to the spirit-anointed Christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the Christian Greek Scriptures is directed, including the promises of everlasting life." - Watchtower June 15, 1974 p.376
@@survivingparadisepodcast You are killing me Bro. School overseer for 20 years. When I gave my wife a #3 and counsel point was gestures, she gave me a descriptive gesture using both hands 😂
I'm addicted to this channel, hilarious at times, scary that I believed all of their BS, it's a roller coaster ride for sure. But sad my mother is still in with those nest of vipers....
The Bible has a bit to say about piercings: (From the NWT) Gen 24:22 When the camels had finished drinking, the man took out for her a gold nose ring weighing a half shekel and two bracelets of gold weighing ten shekels, 23 and he said: “Please tell me, whose daughter are you? Is there any room at your father’s house for us to spend the night? Ezekiel 16:8 (Jehovah himself speaking) “‘When I was passing by and saw you, I noticed that you were old enough for expressions of love. So I spread my garment over you and covered your nakedness and made an oath and entered into a covenant with you,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘and you became mine. 9 Furthermore, I washed you with water and rinsed away your blood and put oil on you. 10 I then clothed you with an embroidered garment and gave you fine leather sandals and wrapped you in fine linen, and I clothed you with costly garments. 11 I adorned you with ornaments and put bracelets on your hands and a necklace around your neck. 12I also put a ring in your nose and earrings on your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. 13 You kept adorning yourself with gold and silver, and your clothing was fine linen, costly material, and an embroidered garment. Fine flour, honey, and oil were what you ate, and you grew to be extremely beautiful, and you became fit to be a queen." Deuteronomy 15:16 “But if he says to you, ‘I will not go out from your company!’ because he loves you and your household, since he has been happy while with you, 16 you should then take an awl and put it through his ear into the door, and he will become your slave for life. You should do the same with your slave girl The one in Ezekiel is especially interesting to me since it's God himself talking about a nose ring in a positive light
It sure does Redfox, thank you. Good references! My comment was more to the modern day 'rules' of not having multiple piercings, where to pierce on your body, etc. These are all arbitrary opinions the Bible does not comment on, therefore, 'going beyond what is written'....and I'm fairly certain any 'god' would be less than concerned about number of piercings on someone over .... say..... war, famine, etc. ;)
True, but he does comment on the importance of caring for family as well....remember his final words regarding his mother while being crucified. Also, Jewish law/culture was big on family
What watchtower printed about Revelation the 22nd chapter there when it says not to add or take away, what they’re trying to do is to steal the authority of the inspired word of God when they themselves tell us their writings are not inspired of God, but they take the liberty to put their words and teachings as being the equivalent of the inspired word of God. That is the act of an “evil slave” and as a matter of fact that very verse tells such anointed Christians they’re going to lose out if they do it. What they’re doing is pure evil incarnate, who are they imitating are they obedient and loyal to their creator Jehovah God who wrote the Bible or are they lying and thieving from God putting themselves in the authority of the Bible itself, kind of like Satan quoting and twisting the Scriptures to trick Jesus, see the connection? PS. Another good one from the Governing Body is the perverted statement; “we need to keep up with Jehovah’s on the move chariot” and they use this to twist it into creating new rules and regulations and new light which they use to protect themselves and do what they want under the disguise of being backed by the biblical authority of God‘s word, which is an utter misleading deception. You can read about these demigods in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2.
They have openly put themselves over the God they worship. They want the world to believe that mankind needs them to explain anything in the Bible.....and only their Bible, which has been blatantly doctored to support their teachings
@@survivingparadisepodcast 👍 well yes they are a blatantly obvious travesty. Appreciate your unique informative channel. Having my own channel was an idea I myself entertained, but with capable intelligent speakers like you on UA-cam there’s not much need for me, you more than adequately speak the truth of it.
As to there's no scripture about masturbating...I thought that I remember a scripture that says, maybe get a blister on your little finger maybe get a blister on your thumb. Lol 😂
@@survivingparadisepodcast hey I don't think that you caught the joke. This "scripture" was actually the lyrics to the song money for nothing, by dire straights.
There is a magical moment that happens in the womb. Spirit enters matter in a singularly unique way. The Holy of Holies is symbolic of that very mystery but no one talks about that. Literally all about sex the whole tabernacle, altar, pillars, curtain etc. The hateful 8 know this symbolism and happily bury its meaning along with the power of the female.
Fascinating stuff Phil; very deep. YES, they bury a great deal....and I sometimes wonder if they even know the half of it. They don't seem very 'bright'
@@survivingparadisepodcast I try to not get into the deep stuff but it flys out sometimes. They definitely appear the Fool, with Mark slowly becoming the exception to that.
@@lizzidpeepole I love the deep stuff...this org has changed so much. They used to 'try' to be deep.....now they are just intellectually insulting at every turn
@@survivingparadisepodcast H.P. Blavatsky was a brilliant mind on all things religious. She died just as ol Chuck started this lil cult. I'm not a follower or anything like that but the wealth of information she has written on religious roots is mind boggling. I would have liked to hear her take on these 8 gems.
@@survivingparadisepodcast The cross is the most rudimentary example of this Sex symbolism. The root analogy is spirit (the upright) enters matter (the horizontal). The cross on the old Watchtower doubles down on the penetration. Sounds rowdy but it is basic Sex Magick symbology. Anyways I digress.
By 2000, earrings in men 2 ears was mainstream, I got both of mine done in 1990, from going to school with a bunch of cats from NYC. As far as strobe lights they are dangerous cause you might end up with some one not attractive!!! There's a song called STROBE LITE HONEYS by Black Sheep.
🤣😂that made me laugh out loud....LOL. "can someone turn the lights on?" The earrings thing is just insane! It's VERY common by the 2000's.....and that list of evil places it came from .....I can't stop laughing
Can someone point me to what Watchtower source it is where the GB is autographing Bibles? I hear about it, but it seems too farfetched to be true. Yet, Watchtower has also amazed me at how bizzare and culty it is. So it also could be true.
It's in the May 15th, 1999 Watchtower, a photograph and it's featured above in the video tile for reference.....the Governing Body, autographing Bibles... also can be found on the podcast Instagram page
In Watchtower study article 29; "support our overseers" paragraphs 9&10. Paragraph 9 explains Mathew 24:45-47 that in the last days, Jesus would appoint A "Faithful Slave" paragraph 10 explains all the publications provided by that Faithful Slave in 1919, buy the Governing body was not in existence In 1919? 😳 so how can we rightly say these 8 men are the Faithful Slave? Since they did not exist in 1919! So tge Faithful Slave, small group has to be the 144,000 anointed one's resurrected and serving either Jesus our King in heaven. Explains why the original Harp of God book was full of lies!
All fabricated, man made lies; mostly created by Fred Franz under Judge Joe's leadership. The Governing Body didn't even exist until the 1970's and it's a term found NOWHERE in the Bible. As for Matthew 24...they've done an incredible job of getting thinking people to believe a PARABLE is somehow a prophecy!! Fairy tales have more weight...
They are the mediators to God so of course they’ve got the unmitigated gall to autograph the Bible. Their own literature says Jesus is only the mediator to the anointed and it’s impossible to have a relationship with Jesus without them. Once you understand that all this blasphemy makes sense. This is a business enhanced by free labour.
Stacy can you do a video on your experiences dealing with Jws married to non believers. I was married to a Jws for 21 years. She left me for a another jw and he left his jw wife. They eventually married.
😞 I'm so sorry to read about what you've been through. Yes, I can touch on this subject. It's a very interesting one and many women marry unbelieving men, etc. I'm so sorry to see this :(
Is there ANY non men-made organisation on earth?? and to go further, isn t the whole Bible men-made? our JW “knowledge” was biased, we did not learn about the real writers and the time of writing of the Bible books. And: aren t the gods man-made? but of course I agree with you: JWorg is definitively man made!
@@survivingparadisepodcast As long as you maintain the hypothesis of YHWH the only God inspiring the Bible and sending his Son to earth…believing JWs will find objections to your reasoning. Example: you are surprised that God chose Russell then Rutherford and his acolytes, but you will be told: the first disciples and apostles were illiterate fishermen. Perhaps Peter had a speaking skill comparable to Tony or Sam. God did not choose a Hellenizing scholar. In fact many of your arguments also turn against Christianity or Judaism. Except that if you shout it too loud… you will lose half of your American followers :)
You know what use to get me in the watchtower study is like a paragraph would say something like Jesus must be thinking and I use to think what ?? You know what Jesus might be thinking but we are so brainwash we sat there and adhere to every word yet that scripture at 2nd Timothy 3 16 is one that is widely use in the ministry that we should be applying to ourselves don't know if I quote the right scripture
We are the same person! You should have seen me conducting the book study in the Revelation Climax book. I openly made fun of it! Our group would sit around laughing at that book....I should have known then I was leaving. It's just absurd how they do that!
Stacy, you often mention the duration or length of your podcasts, as if you have gone beyond a sensible time and we have to endure the remaining content when you do. Please make your podcasts as long as they have to be so that you exhaust all your thoughts on each topic without keeping an eye on the length. We can all turn off if we want to, we have a choice in that. We don't have the opportunity or choice to listen to you fully if you shorten your videos when there is room for more comment. So, as far as this listener is concerned (I suspect many others, too) please vent all your thoughts on a subject. There is always a. "Pause or Stop" button, Thank you for your superlative content.
I went and listened to Janet Jackson nasty, couldn’t see the problem. How rude and annoying for someone to think they have the authority to shut down someone else’s party because they don’t understand lyrics
If your interested, I have 1,862 videos uploaded to my channel of discussions with British Jehovah's Witnesses from Jehovah's Witness congregations from across the UK. These videos often deal with individual chapters from their book Enjoy Life Forever and are divided on my channel into UK geographical regions.
The GB signing gift Bibles does not really bother me. I have done this (writing a message and adding my signature) with the Bible and many other books (metaphysics, philosophy, cosmology, science, etc.), none of which I authored. Having said that, there are MANY other things the GB does and say that I find unpalatable (whole gamut from being annoying to being dead wrong (does not follow “what’s written”) or worse evil ( CSA) or blasphemous. I’m glad I left (PIMO at age 16, POMO at 28). Thanks for your activism!
The organization is a culturally cooperated man made structural system that goes beyond the scriptures, and judges everyone’s spirituality based on that structural system. Just by doing this alone, among many other things, they stray from God, Jesus and the Bible… and follow themselves while requiring members to follow them. Which is what Jesus warned his followers about. There was never given any exception or free pass to any man, or future group of men, to overstep the Bible. What the GB and this organization has done with this and many other things on so many different levels over the decades to this day is simply, blasphemous!
YES!! JW's live under an umbrella of man made rules; none of which are found in the Bible. It's very sad and .....insane! It causes a lifetime of unhappiness
Everytime you said 8 guys from up state New York I laughed, because thats all they are its nothing special about them. Out of all places in the world Jehovah allegedly choose 8 old men in New York.. smh. Pleass do a part 2 episode of the 8 guys from up state new york! 🤣
Always enjoy your humorous but obviously logical development of what is happening in today's organization of JW's. But I would suggest you re-analyze your comments about God's name not present in the older manuscripts. From the 3rd century or so on; yes you're right. As the corrupted form of apostate Christianity began to substitute the tetragrammaton (Hebrew letters for God's name) for titles like "kyrios" or Lord, and "God", (the'os) in Greek. And very old copies of the Greek Septuagint have been found which date to the first century; and they contain the divine name YHWH in the 237 locations found in the Greek scriptures originally. See the brochure, "The Divine Name that will Endure Forever", published by the Watchtower Society in 1984; pages 23-27 for starters. Many of the first century Roman and Christian historians as well as other manuscript scholars are referenced there for folks to consider. Also, "Insight on the Scriptures", volume 2, pgs. 10-12 for starters.
Thanks Connor, great stuff and you're clearly a deep thinker. I appreciate the references, but have you looked into the history of 'The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever?"..... very controversial. Scholars have strong feelings about whether the name was used in ancient manuscripts....I'll take another look, but would encourage you to do so too.....very interesting history!
Can Jehovah gives us the remaining books yet to be found of the bible instead of leaving us the ones chosen by the Vatican? C´mon Jehovah we are in the last days of the last days, in the precise final part of the final part, in the last moment of the last moment, in the last sec...oh... I´m done with this crap!! :P
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Stacey my man. Best part of the week. Let's do it.
Thanks my comrade!!
This was the best summary on why JWs are not from God. It was straightforward and accurate. I regret the time I spent in the organization and the damage it did to my family.
Thanks Freda! I'm so glad you're now out! I still struggle with the lost time and regret as well.... we can't get the time back :(
Well, I think they can sign the bible today since they changed it so much. Come on Tracy, they earned it!!!
LOL, valid point!
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58:26 Piñatas… I remember as a child that this was a frowned upon or verboten party substance, but never knew of any reference or guidance from the “Organization” on this. I have been thusly educated. Pretty much any party has been stained as an event to be avoided. Thanks, Governing Body for the plethora of lifelong scars.
Oh yes, pinatas were big no no's in the 70's.....as a kid you would think demons were going to come flying out!
130 years of wasted paper
So many trees destroyed.....for nonsense and deadly lies
You have become one of my most favorite host, been looking forward to hearing from you all week, even checked your channel late last night to ensure myself I hadn't missed a post. Love your voice, your thoughts and your channel.
Thank you so much Ashera!! That means a lot!!
I did the same as of yesterday making sure I didn’t miss his podcast. I agree great mind, great voice.
@@alottafagina7468 Thank you so much Alotta!
Wow, I had never seen that autographing of bibles picture. Unreal
Can you believe it????? It's incredible
Excellent discussion! Thank you!
Thank you for listening Pamela!
Unbelievable! Thank you Tracy.
thank you!
👋 Warm regards from SW Florida. 🙂🥰👍
Greetings D Y.....love me some Florida!
I have an hour run tomorrow morning so I’ll listen to the morning worship then.
Morning worship!!!!! nice!!!!
Thanks Huston, I'm getting back into my fitness regime too!
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I love you my brother...❤️
Thanks Super, I love you back!
Yep, the truth hitting us in the face all these years and we knew something was off but we had no idea how off it was and still defended it. Took me 58 years......ugh. I think I was always labeled as negative because I couldn't understand why we covered things over and how bad the elders were. The lack of love is astounding and oh all the rules. I love listening to you and we do have to laugh about it as it really is a lot to process.
That lack of love was one of the biggest reasons I headed for the door. It's astounding to watch/see.....even a long time 'loyal servant' can be treated so poorly
Hi Stacy. Thank you for your channel. You’re right, JWs don’t follow the Bible. I joined in my 30’s because I was convinced they did. It took me another 30 years to accept that I was in a cult. I left 4 years ago. No regrets. I saw so many red flags I thought I was in a parade! Keep up the thoughtful comments, I’ll be listening.
Thank you Cheryle! I'm so glad you got out 4 years ago. We all ignore the red flags for far too long! I appreciate you listening!
I usually listen to this on Spotify, but I like to pop over here to hit like and comment for the Almighty Algorithm.
I love it when you go deep into a rant- the passion I can hear behind your words is quite endearing.
You have *the best voice* in the exjw game, and you also present as a solidly good and kind man.
You're too kind! Thank you jrojala! I appreciate you!
Exactly! The bible wasn't enough so for charles taze russell the origional faithful and discreet slave he could only figure it out though using the pyramid to 'proove' the dates he was 'prophesying'!
And he got that wrong as well😁🕊
He sure did.....started measuring steps on a pyramid. Very few JW's even know that....sad and hilarious!
Bringing a common sense, logical perspective to what jws are put thru everyday. Thank you Stacy
Thanks brother...you got a shoutout this week!
@@survivingparadisepodcast Thanks Brother. You are helping alot of people.
@@ooklathemok7322 Thanks my friend....only reason I started this rambling journey
Similar to the old adage
"Join us or die"
That's the entire message in a nutshell
We need a spin-off show, "These eight guys". Eight con artists from upstate New York starting a real estate company.
LOL, I love that idea Randy!!
If you need a deep resonant lady voice, I volunteer as tribute. Oh, silly me, no girls allowed… lol
@@jrojala I love it! Nah.... we leave gross misogyny to those 'inspired' guys in NY
Thank you so much for doing this podcast. I don't know how you did it, but you were able to put into words what I always thought, but was unable to define. I always kept my hair short when I was PIMI and I actually got counseled for having my hair too short, an elder told me I look like a Nazi and would if a person sees me who went through the war out in service? I remember thinking that that's not in the bible? And I totally remember mandrakes, I still don't know what the F they are?
Thanks Bron and I appreciate you listening. Ah yes, mandrakes!!! I had someone close to me (female), cut her hair short and it was actually an agenda item at an elder's meeting.....insane!
Remember all them songs but songs they didn’t want us to listen too so sad cause I love dancing
I sure do! I loved them all too....and I completely disobeyed and did it anyway! LOL
HOLY HELL!!!!! did you just start this year!! This is my first podcast that I’ve listen from you. My wife and I woke up together three years ago and pulled our family of three children out.
You just got another subscriber and I can’t wait to listen to your previous videos!!
Hey! Yes, started a few months back now, thank you for listening....and I'm happy to hear you got your entire family OUT!!!
And you will love it so much info and the sense of humor makes you laugh 😆
Yes we have to laugh to get thru this stuff but you make it easy with good sense of humor
Yes!!
Hello there Stacy! Your channel is growing. I subscribed before you got to 1,000 subs. I came back today and you’re over that number. Congratulations! 🎉
Thank you Dantoinette, I appreciate you!!
Being concerned with healing. 💯
THE CURTAIN IS OPEN ON THE WIZARDS OF WATCHTOWER !
So true.. great video
Thanks Lee!
Yup. Piñatas were akin to wearing a smurf shirt at the YMCA. Might as well sacrifice a cat.
🤣🤣🤣 that made me laugh LOUD
Read the Bible? When does any jw find the time to read the Bible...? A very incisive and valuable analysis, many thanks.
Very true. JWs are kept very busy evey minute of the day so that they do not have time to actually read the bible
Thanks Mark. Very few JW's read anything....
I was not permitted to go to a single school dance! 😩
Same here. I went through HS without enjoying a single activity...😔 I would've wanted to join sports, go to Homecoming, Jr. and Sr. Proms. 😔 My Parents were so Super JWs, that if back then there would've been homeschooling, for sure they would've pulled us all kids out of regular school.
Me neither....it KILLS me to read this :( so many scars. But I snuck to some 😎
UGH, it kills me that things we all missed out on.....for NOTHING. :(
It's funny brotha you're breaking down why I left ... anytime I'm asked I say oh I don't worship men ... you find a way to put it in hour long videos and I love it
Thanks Quis....I'm truly trying to shorten them up, still struggling LOL. Yep, this was the big one for me
@@survivingparadisepodcast nah don't get me wrong I like the long episodes
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Yeah, long is even better!
Even IF they are suppose to “feed” us the spiritual food, they are not doing that. They are not “servers “, as it were, but they are the “cooks”.
Great illustration....they make it up, ingredients and all!
@@survivingparadisepodcast exactly! I just want you to know how much I enjoy and appreciate your videos. Your honesty and candid is so refreshing and it makes me see that others feel the same way as I do!
@@beautyRest1 thank you so much!! I appreciate you listening!
I left 6 years ago but man if I had seen that 1999 watchtower I would have left sooner. The ego those guys have 🤦🏻♂️
Glad you're out! Isn't that something??? I still can't believe it
@@survivingparadisepodcast I know for the 2013 Bible version they did that also 🤦🏻♂️
Matthew 28:18 Baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. If you go beyond what is written you baptize in the name of Jehovah, Jesus, and the organization. Check it out!
Very good point Ookla!!
This 1977 movie, Saturday Night Fever (R) had a scene in it showing the Watchtower Brooklyn Building. Yes, I saw this movie and was counseled for it. Great podcast, now I feel like disco-ing to Bee Gees music and beat a pinata. Pinatas are now allowed (an un-re-unwritten rule) according to an early 2000 Awake Magazine. Anyone have a bottle of MaCallan, I feel like partying!
LOL.....yeah it was in the skyline! Thanks for the update on the pinatas. It's insane. MaCallan is very.....very good ;)
I remembered the 70s when we were condemned for having Rock or any kind of posters on our walls, especially Autographed!
It was Creature Worship!
Ive been out for 20 years and can't believe how different Watchtower is now.
I'm glad it's getting obvious that it's a cult.
The teens leave ASAP along with others waking up. With all levels of age, from 1 to 100 in Watchtower, its Astronomically the younger ones leaving.
Now that raises Astronomically the age average in the Kingdom Halls.
So if the average age is 40, and Watchtower isn't getting hardly anyone to join anymore, How long will it take for, sadly to say, but how long untill Watchtower has no living members?
If you read this and are currently a JW, I'm not your enemy. I'm just a man that woke up.
"If it's the Truth it can stand up to question,
If it's not the Truth it SHOULD be questioned!!!!
Be blessed.
Someday I'd enjoy having a conversation with you.
I must say my friend,,, you have the very best radio voice and the perfect personality to match.
Thank you for all the informative videos
Thanks Danny! You're too kind! I was one of those kids too....I had the posters and once had an elder visit and counsel me on my Sammy Hagar, Standing Hampton cassette tape cover. NOT kidding!! LOL
Men can’t wear beards but Prince could rock heels and makeup and he was still called brother Nelson. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL. I had some very close friends attending the congregation Michael Jackson was in as well......the stories!
Great channel!
Thank you so much Hannah!
Hey! What did the bra say to the hat?
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You go on a head, I’ll give these two a lift.
LOL, well okay!
You got good jokes. lol
Seriously though, good video.
Thanks rdhawk...my sarcasm is somewhat uncontrollable.....I'm still working on those 'fruitages of the spirit' 🤣
@@survivingparadisepodcast 😂
What’s so funny about this is that most of the elders that I happen to know around my age which is about yours Stacy , is that they all went to discos and clubs in that era ! It’s a shame most of them haven’t woke up yet ! But these videos of yours can definitely help them wake up !
Most are slowly lulled into the 'habit' of being a JW and you're right: many of the guys serving today are my age and we had all kinds of fun back in the day!
I love the way you break things down. There are so many concepts as to what is wrong with this religion. Not just one thing. It's the fact that they don't follow the bible. Yeah they follow the obvious morals, but every Christian religion does. But when it comes to there "unique" beliefs are no where in the bible. Oh scriptures can be pieced together to vaguely prove there "unique" teachings. And the amazing thing is EVERY one of their "unique" teachings can be proven wrong from the bible!
Wow...autographing the word of God. Really shouldn't be surprised they do say they substitute for Christ and they are the G-guardiands O-of D-doctrine.
LOL, nice job on the acronym....yep, they somehow feel like they have the right to autograph the Bible. I still cant' wrap my head around it
@@survivingparadisepodcast I can't take credit for the acronym .. it was in fact Geoffey Jackson himself that called the Govening body Guardians of doctrine in his testimony at the Australian Royal Commission.
@@anniesavedbygrace His entire testimony on the stand in Australia is one of the most damning, hideous lies I've ever seen. Most JW"s don't even know about it....and the Governing Body literally sits there and lies on the stand. Not to mention how utterly unimpressive he was as a 'teacher' or speaker
i could never understand the 144.000 thing. no one could ever make it make since.
It's truly absurd. While everything else in Revelation is symbolic, they want us to believe this number is literal.
Everything you say is true. You could speak on the details of how they go beyond what is written for YEARS! One thing that bothered me was that men had to have short hair. Some guys look great with long hair. The elders went around the hall nagging guys about their hair starting to inch toward their ears or collars. They railed about it in talks. Jesus & all the men of old had long hair & the bible says DONT CUT IT! Where do they get off?
Portland had a music & dancing culture among JW's that I didnt experience anywhere else. The Bee Gees were huge! Did you know the Strand brothers or the Fogelquist girls? I went from that to a very rural area with small congregations spread about 30 miles apart. No dancing, no music. Only at a rare wedding. The single pioneer sisters in my congregation once wrote & dirrected a bible drama for the young people in our area. The kids all got to together several times for rehearsals, coming from miles around. It was beautiful. There was no trouble. The only time in 11 yrs they got together. After it was over, we were all in trouble. Especially the brother who allowed us to use the historic old theater stage in the upstairs of his home! He moved away! They would have passed out if they even knew I had always worn 2 piece bathing suits growing up on the west coast! I was made to buy a one piece. It was a strange combo of being in a small town where everyone saw all you did, & doing things secretly because you had NO CONTACT with other kids. It was soul killing for young people. They all grew up & left as fast as possible. So sad & SCARRING.
Sorry, to go on...but that town & congregation nearly cost me my life. I came very close to suicide.
One thing saved me. I made the 1st worldly friend of my young adult life there. A man in his 60's who was a true horseman & had raised 4 daughters of his own. I exercised his roping horses & the young ones he had in training for other people after he was injured in a heavy equipment accident. He was such a great man & a born teacher. After he passed, I found out that he had saved my last message to him, written on the chalkboard in his barn where he drew diagrams for his roping students & communicated with me when we missed each other, as I rode a lot while he was at work. He saved that message for 25 yrs! And THAT is the difference between a JW cult & a "worldly" person! Very telling.
So sorry Heather, I'm just seeing these posts!! :( I hate to read of the misery so many people suffered with; it's so painful! Portland did have a big dancing and roller skating culture for the young people. I don't recognize any of those names; what part of the city?
Where I'm the watchtower translation did it say the bible student leaders where chosen by God? And if he did where did it say they have authority to discipline people on private thoughts? I think thought that verse said something about feeding, not punishment
Nowhere. It's all tied to 1919 and as this episode goes into.....they can add and take away from the Bible at will. Never mind that it completely breaks god's commands......they are above god LOL
You hit the nail on the head at @ 32 to 33 minutes in on the 2008 Watchtower reference!! Oh my goodness! I laughed for a full minute!😅😆🤣 I guess when you live with your head up your butt, (like the governing body), everything looks fine! Though I had that scripture in my list of scriptures to reprove the 3 stooges on my committee; seeing it in context with only ONE SENTENCE REMOVED from their statement completely contradicting the previous sentence just blew my mind!
The stunning incompetence they roll out is incredible. Within centimeters of each other. That scripture alone destroys the entire religion!
Hi Stacy, I'm looking for the quote that says something to the effect of: "Bible understanding belongs to the Christian congregation alone." Could you please help me out with this one?
Here are a couple for you: United in Worship Book, page 111: "Special attention was being given to making up the government that would rule mankind for 1,000 years, and nearly all the inspired letters in the Christian Greek Scriptures are primarily directed to this group of Kingdom heirs - "the holy ones," "partakers of the heavenly calling." One more: "Also, it is to the spirit-anointed Christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the Christian Greek Scriptures is directed, including the promises of everlasting life." - Watchtower June 15, 1974 p.376
@@survivingparadisepodcast thank you sir.
Hey Stacy you might have repetition for emphasis but I got coherence through connectives! 😜
LOL, oh man....you got me there!!! Remember how much we all hated 'gestures?'
@@survivingparadisepodcast You are killing me Bro. School overseer for 20 years. When I gave my wife a #3 and counsel point was gestures, she gave me a descriptive gesture using both hands 😂
@@ooklathemok7322 🤣I mean....who wants to counsel their wife?? LOL, dangerous territory!!
I'm addicted to this channel, hilarious at times, scary that I believed all of their BS, it's a roller coaster ride for sure. But sad my mother is still in with those nest of vipers....
Thank you Andi! I appreciate you! My mother is still 'in' as well....I understand!
the witch tower babble and trick society or the doomsday bookclub cult.
Take your pick.
Those sound like some great names for a podcast show 😉😉😉
The Bible has a bit to say about piercings: (From the NWT)
Gen 24:22 When the camels had finished drinking, the man took out for her a gold nose ring weighing a half shekel and two bracelets of gold weighing ten shekels, 23 and he said: “Please tell me, whose daughter are you? Is there any room at your father’s house for us to spend the night?
Ezekiel 16:8 (Jehovah himself speaking) “‘When I was passing by and saw you, I noticed that you were old enough for expressions of love. So I spread my garment over you and covered your nakedness and made an oath and entered into a covenant with you,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘and you became mine. 9 Furthermore, I washed you with water and rinsed away your blood and put oil on you. 10 I then clothed you with an embroidered garment and gave you fine leather sandals and wrapped you in fine linen, and I clothed you with costly garments. 11 I adorned you with ornaments and put bracelets on your hands and a necklace around your neck. 12I also put a ring in your nose and earrings on your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. 13 You kept adorning yourself with gold and silver, and your clothing was fine linen, costly material, and an embroidered garment. Fine flour, honey, and oil were what you ate, and you grew to be extremely beautiful, and you became fit to be a queen."
Deuteronomy 15:16 “But if he says to you, ‘I will not go out from your company!’ because he loves you and your household, since he has been happy while with you, 16 you should then take an awl and put it through his ear into the door, and he will become your slave for life. You should do the same with your slave girl
The one in Ezekiel is especially interesting to me since it's God himself talking about a nose ring in a positive light
It sure does Redfox, thank you. Good references! My comment was more to the modern day 'rules' of not having multiple piercings, where to pierce on your body, etc. These are all arbitrary opinions the Bible does not comment on, therefore, 'going beyond what is written'....and I'm fairly certain any 'god' would be less than concerned about number of piercings on someone over .... say..... war, famine, etc. ;)
Jesus did not tell men to care for their family, but to leave wife and children to follow him and his gang.
True, but he does comment on the importance of caring for family as well....remember his final words regarding his mother while being crucified. Also, Jewish law/culture was big on family
Jesus wasn’t a real person 😐
@@krissykatportal I agree Krissy...or at best, was a charismatic Jewish rebel. But I tend to believe he didn't exist or is highly embellished upon.
You can lead a JW to knowledge but you can’t make him think!
What watchtower printed about Revelation the 22nd chapter there when it says not to add or take away, what they’re trying to do is to steal the authority of the inspired word of God when they themselves tell us their writings are not inspired of God, but they take the liberty to put their words and teachings as being the equivalent of the inspired word of God. That is the act of an “evil slave” and as a matter of fact that very verse tells such anointed Christians they’re going to lose out if they do it. What they’re doing is pure evil incarnate, who are they imitating are they obedient and loyal to their creator Jehovah God who wrote the Bible or are they lying and thieving from God putting themselves in the authority of the Bible itself, kind of like Satan quoting and twisting the Scriptures to trick Jesus, see the connection?
PS. Another good one from the Governing Body is the perverted statement; “we need to keep up with Jehovah’s on the move chariot” and they use this to twist it into creating new rules and regulations and new light which they use to protect themselves and do what they want under the disguise of being backed by the biblical authority of God‘s word, which is an utter misleading deception. You can read about these demigods in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2.
They have openly put themselves over the God they worship. They want the world to believe that mankind needs them to explain anything in the Bible.....and only their Bible, which has been blatantly doctored to support their teachings
@@survivingparadisepodcast 👍 well yes they are a blatantly obvious travesty.
Appreciate your unique informative channel. Having my own channel was an idea I myself entertained, but with capable intelligent speakers like you on UA-cam there’s not much need for me, you more than adequately speak the truth of it.
As to there's no scripture about masturbating...I thought that I remember a scripture that says, maybe get a blister on your little finger maybe get a blister on your thumb.
Lol 😂
deserves an entire episode!
@@survivingparadisepodcast hey I don't think that you caught the joke. This "scripture" was actually the lyrics to the song money for nothing, by dire straights.
@@stevebenoit6649 🤣gotcha! Some Mark Knopfler baby!!
There is a magical moment that happens in the womb. Spirit enters matter in a singularly unique way. The Holy of Holies is symbolic of that very mystery but no one talks about that. Literally all about sex the whole tabernacle, altar, pillars, curtain etc.
The hateful 8 know this symbolism and happily bury its meaning along with the power of the female.
Fascinating stuff Phil; very deep. YES, they bury a great deal....and I sometimes wonder if they even know the half of it. They don't seem very 'bright'
@@survivingparadisepodcast I try to not get into the deep stuff but it flys out sometimes. They definitely appear the Fool, with Mark slowly becoming the exception to that.
@@lizzidpeepole I love the deep stuff...this org has changed so much. They used to 'try' to be deep.....now they are just intellectually insulting at every turn
@@survivingparadisepodcast H.P. Blavatsky was a brilliant mind on all things religious. She died just as ol Chuck started this lil cult. I'm not a follower or anything like that but the wealth of information she has written on religious roots is mind boggling. I would have liked to hear her take on these 8 gems.
@@survivingparadisepodcast The cross is the most rudimentary example of this Sex symbolism. The root analogy is spirit (the upright) enters matter (the horizontal). The cross on the old Watchtower doubles down on the penetration. Sounds rowdy but it is basic Sex Magick symbology. Anyways I digress.
By 2000, earrings in men 2 ears was mainstream, I got both of mine done in 1990, from going to school with a bunch of cats from NYC. As far as strobe lights they are dangerous cause you might end up with some one not attractive!!! There's a song called STROBE LITE HONEYS by Black Sheep.
🤣😂that made me laugh out loud....LOL. "can someone turn the lights on?" The earrings thing is just insane! It's VERY common by the 2000's.....and that list of evil places it came from .....I can't stop laughing
@@survivingparadisepodcast make sure the Rams beat the brakes off the bills Thurs so I can 😂😂😂@all the bills fans
@@Rwdogg21 Dude, I'm counting the minutes!!!!!!
Can someone point me to what Watchtower source it is where the GB is autographing Bibles? I hear about it, but it seems too farfetched to be true. Yet, Watchtower has also amazed me at how bizzare and culty it is. So it also could be true.
It's in the May 15th, 1999 Watchtower, a photograph and it's featured above in the video tile for reference.....the Governing Body, autographing Bibles... also can be found on the podcast Instagram page
When Jesus said don't go house to house he was talking about lodging. Of course, I don't believe in Jesus.
yes and no....I don't either, but to build a religion around door to door preaching in the manner JW's have is nothing like Jesus ministry....
In Watchtower study article 29; "support our overseers" paragraphs 9&10. Paragraph 9 explains Mathew 24:45-47 that in the last days, Jesus would appoint A "Faithful Slave" paragraph 10 explains all the publications provided by that Faithful Slave in 1919, buy the Governing body was not in existence In 1919? 😳 so how can we rightly say these 8 men are the Faithful Slave? Since they did not exist in 1919! So tge Faithful Slave, small group has to be the 144,000 anointed one's resurrected and serving either Jesus our King in heaven. Explains why the original Harp of God book was full of lies!
All fabricated, man made lies; mostly created by Fred Franz under Judge Joe's leadership. The Governing Body didn't even exist until the 1970's and it's a term found NOWHERE in the Bible. As for Matthew 24...they've done an incredible job of getting thinking people to believe a PARABLE is somehow a prophecy!! Fairy tales have more weight...
They are the mediators to God so of course they’ve got the unmitigated gall to autograph the Bible. Their own literature says Jesus is only the mediator to the anointed and it’s impossible to have a relationship with Jesus without them. Once you understand that all this blasphemy makes sense. This is a business enhanced by free labour.
Stacy can you do a video on your experiences dealing with Jws married to non believers.
I was married to a Jws for 21 years. She left me for a another jw and he left his jw wife. They eventually married.
😞 I'm so sorry to read about what you've been through. Yes, I can touch on this subject. It's a very interesting one and many women marry unbelieving men, etc. I'm so sorry to see this :(
Is there ANY non men-made organisation on earth?? and to go further, isn t the whole Bible men-made? our JW “knowledge” was biased, we did not learn about the real writers and the time of writing of the Bible books. And: aren t the gods man-made? but of course I agree with you: JWorg is definitively man made!
Deep stuff...agree Disas!!
@@survivingparadisepodcast As long as you maintain the hypothesis of YHWH the only God inspiring the Bible and sending his Son to earth…believing JWs will find objections to your reasoning. Example: you are surprised that God chose Russell then Rutherford and his acolytes, but you will be told: the first disciples and apostles were illiterate fishermen. Perhaps Peter had a speaking skill comparable to Tony or Sam. God did not choose a Hellenizing scholar. In fact many of your arguments also turn against Christianity or Judaism. Except that if you shout it too loud… you will lose half of your American followers :)
@@disassociated1731 Definitely something I considered. I just decided to take a road of candor from my perspective.
You know what use to get me in the watchtower study is like a paragraph would say something like Jesus must be thinking and I use to think what ?? You know what Jesus might be thinking but we are so brainwash we sat there and adhere to every word yet that scripture at 2nd Timothy 3 16 is one that is widely use in the ministry that we should be applying to ourselves don't know if I quote the right scripture
We are the same person! You should have seen me conducting the book study in the Revelation Climax book. I openly made fun of it! Our group would sit around laughing at that book....I should have known then I was leaving. It's just absurd how they do that!
Stacy, you often mention the duration or length of your podcasts, as if you have gone beyond a sensible time and we have to endure the remaining content when you do. Please make your podcasts as long as they have to be so that you exhaust all your thoughts on each topic without keeping an eye on the length. We can all turn off if we want to, we have a choice in that. We don't have the opportunity or choice to listen to you fully if you shorten your videos when there is room for more comment. So, as far as this listener is concerned (I suspect many others, too) please vent all your thoughts on a subject. There is always a. "Pause or Stop" button, Thank you for your superlative content.
Thank you! I'm sensitive to my own repetitive nature....I appreciate your kind feedback!
I went and listened to Janet Jackson nasty, couldn’t see the problem. How rude and annoying for someone to think they have the authority to shut down someone else’s party because they don’t understand lyrics
If your interested, I have 1,862 videos uploaded to my channel of discussions with British Jehovah's Witnesses from Jehovah's Witness congregations from across the UK. These videos often deal with individual chapters from their book Enjoy Life Forever and are divided on my channel into UK geographical regions.
Wow! I'll check your channel out, thank you!
The GB signing gift Bibles does not really bother me.
I have done this (writing a message and adding my signature) with the Bible and many other books (metaphysics, philosophy, cosmology, science, etc.), none of which I authored.
Having said that, there are MANY other things the GB does and say that I find unpalatable (whole gamut from being annoying to being dead wrong (does not follow “what’s written”) or worse evil ( CSA) or blasphemous.
I’m glad I left (PIMO at age 16, POMO at 28).
Thanks for your activism!
actually pinatas are ok now😂 they changed it a few yrs ago🤦🏻♂️
The organization is a culturally cooperated man made structural system that goes beyond the scriptures, and judges everyone’s spirituality based on that structural system. Just by doing this alone, among many other things, they stray from God, Jesus and the Bible… and follow themselves while requiring members to follow them. Which is what Jesus warned his followers about. There was never given any exception or free pass to any man, or future group of men, to overstep the Bible. What the GB and this organization has done with this and many other things on so many different levels over the decades to this day is simply, blasphemous!
YES!! JW's live under an umbrella of man made rules; none of which are found in the Bible. It's very sad and .....insane! It causes a lifetime of unhappiness
I think most whacked out thing I ever read was a ‘73 Awake that talked about Carnivals and how they are evil and based from pagan origins.
😮 oh no, I missed that one, but now I have to go find it......good god.....
Name one religion that follows the Bible when money, pleasure or some other resource is on the line?
Everytime you said 8 guys from up state New York I laughed, because thats all they are its nothing special about them. Out of all places in the world Jehovah allegedly choose 8 old men in New York.. smh. Pleass do a part 2 episode of the 8 guys from up state new york! 🤣
LOL, you get me.....great idea!
Always enjoy your humorous but obviously logical development of what is happening in today's organization of JW's. But I would suggest you re-analyze your comments about God's name not present in the older manuscripts. From the 3rd century or so on; yes you're right. As the corrupted form of apostate Christianity began to substitute the tetragrammaton (Hebrew letters for God's name) for titles like "kyrios" or Lord, and "God", (the'os) in Greek. And very old copies of the Greek Septuagint have been found which date to the first century; and they contain the divine name YHWH in the 237 locations found in the Greek scriptures originally.
See the brochure, "The Divine Name that will Endure Forever", published by the Watchtower Society in 1984; pages 23-27 for starters. Many of the first century Roman and Christian historians as well as other manuscript scholars are referenced there for folks to consider. Also, "Insight on the Scriptures", volume 2, pgs. 10-12 for starters.
Thanks Connor, great stuff and you're clearly a deep thinker. I appreciate the references, but have you looked into the history of 'The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever?"..... very controversial. Scholars have strong feelings about whether the name was used in ancient manuscripts....I'll take another look, but would encourage you to do so too.....very interesting history!
Can Jehovah gives us the remaining books yet to be found of the bible instead of leaving us the ones chosen by the Vatican? C´mon Jehovah we are in the last days of the last days, in the precise final part of the final part, in the last moment of the last moment, in the last sec...oh... I´m done with this crap!! :P
LOL....he get's distracted a lot...he probably forgot
Who is Ashley??? I need to talk to her 😮 I like a man with an earing or 2. 😅
THE BLOOD IS ABOUT ANIMAL BLOOD NOT HUMAN; REMEMBER NOAH AFTER THE FLOOD !
WATCHTOWER FULFILLS THE SCRIPTURE IN TIMOTHY ABOUT NOT BELIEVING TOSSED BY EVERY WIND OF TEACHING. NWT !