Thumbs down for no science at all. Thumbs down for suggesting you put your life on the line with parachord handling the weight of a person. Go ask a climber if they would want something with the strength of 550 chord, even fresh out of the package, to trust their lives too. Thumbs down for expecting a 200# test to hold the weight of a man pushing against it and "disqualifying" it for doing something it was never intended to do. Just thumbs down. A waste of an opportunity to test chord that had been weathering for a year. A waste of your viewers time.
As a former old school trad climber, I think you missed the point. As far as I've seen, most people that use cordage aren't climbers and don't want to be.
@@clintstinkeye5607I'm not a climber, but I do use cordage. I think most people have a sense of intended use. I wouldn't call a fountain pen bad because it can't write upside down and in the the rain. It was never meant to. If you don't recognize or call out the purpose of something, then testing it is pointless. And I don't need someone to tell me that 2lb fishing line won't hold my weight. I got that from that fact that it is rated to break at 2lbs...
@@Scuba11Steve - I don't disagree. I can make anything complicated about anything that most people just don't want to ponder. I can disenchant freakin Ghandi on his most altruistic level. Just want a stout cord/rope that is basically at Victorinox Swiss Army Knife standards for the claims. Kevlar and Dyneema are cost prohibive to most. That's what matters to a lot of people. They got other stuff to worry about. No disrespect, and I appreciate the kindness of words in the exchange. P.S. - As a former climber I opine that you are a bit wonker for breathing underwater. That is just wrong. You're a silly person.
I love your videos, the only thing that give me chills is that when doing your testing, you forget all about safety glasses. Your eyes are very important, so traje care of them when testing anything that can hurt you.
I’ve used regular 550 paracord for plenty of outdoor projects over the years and it’s held up to the elements of the central PA mountains of hot summers, rainy weather, snow & ice storms in the winter. It’s always been my goto cordage but I’ve been also carrying survival cord & #36 bankline in my kit over the last year or so as well.
Nothing really beats 550, it just works! I do have some Technora Cordage that I use for my Mjolnir Necklace though as an additional use item, that stuff is stronger than standard Kevlar line. Good stuff brother!
I am glad you didn't sustain any injuries during the testing! I had to scavenge some cordage during a class, mostly #36 bankline. Some of it was on the ground and some hanging in trees left from previous classes. None failed in any of the projects. I have seen some really old paracord and 1 in. tubular webbing turn almost brittle after multiple years of exposure. Thanks for the video!
I'm a 550 cord guy through and through. I've had some out in the sun for a couple years as part of my hawk protection for the chickens. I recently took it down and will reuse it, no problem. I love my paracord.
Interesting and surprising results. One of the (various) scary things in the Coast Guard was towing at sea. There are stories of tow lines snapping and coming back into the wheelhouse smashing the port light. No one was killed but scary! This video reminded me of that. Again, interesting and useful video!
In my opinion, lashing of any kind isn't meant for long term application, it's understood that it will have to be replaced to avoid failure. That said, I use both bankline and paracord. I like bankline for projects that require a smaller footprint, or water resistance. Paracord works well for other needs [ tarp shelter, dummy cord for critical items, etc. ]. Don't leave home without them.
For strength, durability, and light weight I use kevlar. For a temporary project, jute works well and will degrade pretty quickly if accidentally left behind. I also prefer the lighter weight bank line over #36.
Hello- This was a cool video and Im glad you did the testing and did not get too banged up. Im a fan of both bankline(#36) and paracord. I use the bankline for lashings, tent grommet tie-outs, tri-pods, ect.... and the paracord for ridgelines, getting stuff off the ground, ect.... I guess as with everything else, this is all personal preference, but I would never use cheap imitation made cord of any kind. Great video- Thanks-
I bought some really good cordage that's called iron wire from lawson equipment and it's really good. It's 2mm and it's really strong and it holds its shape so it doesn't tangle up as easy as many others types of lines.
I have been using 550 paracord for several years. Nothing left out in the weather for a year in southern Alabama. I am going to be testing #36 bank line in the near future..i don't think i need kevlar line.. Thank for test one..please be careful with that breaking test.
Hey Top. You should have used a pull weight scale to accurately measure the breaking strength of each cordage you used in the experiment, to get a baseline of strength, durability, multi-purpose use, and affordability. That way, we all can determine the best bang for our buck. Just a thought. Your initial tests are great for baseline choices. Who knows, it may just be better to get them all, and apply them for specific uses.
If you want to test something out in the weather here in Washington state is the place it will rot anything thanks stokers much appreciate your time. God bless and stay stoked
Pretty good test. I was waiting on you to bust your arse while pulling against the tree. You didn't disappoint. Lol hope you didn't get more than a good bump. Nice to see the results.
Thanks for taking one for the team. I'll admit it. I laugh when you hit the ground. I'll say 550 chord. You can take it apart and use it many different sections of it.
Great idea to test some widely used cordage materials - sadly you missed to test polypropylene (PP) and polyester (PES) as well as Dyneema (UHMW-PE) too. Polyester and Dyneema are highly UV-resistant by its own, while Nylon, PP and Kevlar only get SOME UV-resistance, if treated. Climbing ropes often come with a polyester shell and a Nylon core to get the best of both worlds. For a static line a braided Dyneema line with a Kevlar core would be an awesome combination. BTW: I'm a great fan of pre-cut cordage, so I don't have to fiddle around with fraying ends in the field. I use super-glue on Kevlar to keep the ends slim and tidy.
Around here bankline is hard to come by and fairly expensive. So I stick to 550 paracord or lighter duty kernmantle. For actual climbing and rappeling I stick to dedicated climbing rope. That rope does not get used for other purposes.
Where I’m at in NEast Texas, the problem we have here is squirrel’s. They will eat and chew on anything other than paracord. I’ve never tried Kevlar cordage and suspect it would be ok too, but as you said it’s expensive.
Did the lines fail at the knots, the sharp edge of the ratchet hook, or in the middle of the strand? I'm really impressed with the performance of all of these cords, as UV damage is generally the failure point with synthetic line. I didn't expect them to handle 365 days of sunshine that well. Rot/moisture generally only affects natural fiber cordage. Maybe I need to twist up some rope made from that tarred bank line...
Personally, Stoker. You should really perform a actual scientific study doing exactly what you just did to provide factual data coming in and comparing it to actual factual data coming out. As a engineer and a actual trained lifetime survivalist who is prepared to walk into the scrub and not come back out when the shit hits the fan, I personally find tremendous interest and value in knowing that information! Perfect example would be using cordage in a load bearing survival structure and how long the lashings, etc, will maintain their structural integrity before they fail under environmental stress from especially U.V rays and continuous wet dry cycles before they dry rot Th
Thanks!!!! This is the kind of info I can't test for. Now, a question I have is "What is the breaking strength of mil spec paracord with one strand removed? Two strands? Three? " I think you'd need a dynamometer to test this, but any info is great.
Those ratchet straps look very familiar 😂. Solid test I’ve been wanting to test Rapid Rope utility cord against 550, I like the rapid rope a lot especially to keep in a vehicle comes with a canister with cutter and you buy rope refills.
You can buy a digital scale with a hook on it which would measure the breaking point of all of those lines. Then we would know the numbers to expect. Not to expensive. I have one.
You usually have a small bottle with you that you can keep in your pocket. Do you have any tips on liquid you can have in such a bottle? Water is not an option.
When you dont test by scientific standards even if they are your own standards it cant be quantified. Although it would have been nice to get the new vs year weathered technical specs. But it was fun for you and you got some views.
Stoker, Stoker, Stoker - EYE PRO dude! Although you might look awesome with an eye patch! Never seen the cordage test before by anyone - awesome project! Think I've got a roll of #18 bank line somewhere and a couple large rolls of 550 cord (mil spec? Damn - and I know better! I'll skin it and see). Love the T-shirt!
I normally enjoy your videos. I’m gonna give you a fail on this one. You had a whole year to prepare for testing the cordage and that was the best you could do? Why not put a spring scale between the tree and the ratchet strap? The you could measure the amount of force in pounds or kilograms it took to break the line. For that matter, a small coffin hoist or come-along would be better than the cheesy ratchet strap but I guess it worked. Other commenters, please don’t hate me for not being a slavish fanboy.
Structurally, my personal experience over long term field use where cordage is directly exposed to the elements and changes of the seasons, there is a huge difference in longevity of using actual MIL SPEC PARACORD (from 5 Col Survival) vs the commercially available so called Mil Spec Paracord thar is made in the USA. So, with that said, for long term usage of constantly being exposed to UV rays, Rain, climatic temperature ranges, spend the money and buy the genuine article. I will not buy ANYTHING that I cannot depend on my life with! Enough said!
This was a real stinker. Firstly the applications for each type of cordage weren’t addressed. Bank line is preferable around water. Or in heavy precipitation. Super cord is a gimmick so that REI Warriors have a wax jute line and cheap ass monofilament inside the nylon sheathing (to this day no one knows why) Also you failed to mention that by tying knots in your rigging you diminish the tensile and load bearing strength of each cordage by halves and half again. This is rigging 101. And it’s a pretty big safety issue. Bro? Number 36 bank line and 9 or 11 strand Super Cord are related the same way slip jaw pliers, Channel Locks and a Crescent wrench are related. I still 👍🏼upped you cuz falling on your ass shows heart No hate here. I just think you missed a heckuva opportunity 👊🏼💥
Thumbs down for no science at all. Thumbs down for suggesting you put your life on the line with parachord handling the weight of a person. Go ask a climber if they would want something with the strength of 550 chord, even fresh out of the package, to trust their lives too. Thumbs down for expecting a 200# test to hold the weight of a man pushing against it and "disqualifying" it for doing something it was never intended to do.
Just thumbs down. A waste of an opportunity to test chord that had been weathering for a year. A waste of your viewers time.
As a former old school trad climber, I think you missed the point.
As far as I've seen, most people that use cordage aren't climbers and don't want to be.
@@clintstinkeye5607I'm not a climber, but I do use cordage. I think most people have a sense of intended use. I wouldn't call a fountain pen bad because it can't write upside down and in the the rain. It was never meant to. If you don't recognize or call out the purpose of something, then testing it is pointless. And I don't need someone to tell me that 2lb fishing line won't hold my weight. I got that from that fact that it is rated to break at 2lbs...
@@Scuba11Steve - I don't disagree.
I can make anything complicated about anything that most people just don't want to ponder.
I can disenchant freakin Ghandi on his most altruistic level.
Just want a stout cord/rope that is basically at Victorinox Swiss Army Knife standards for the claims.
Kevlar and Dyneema are cost prohibive to most.
That's what matters to a lot of people.
They got other stuff to worry about.
No disrespect, and I appreciate the kindness of words in the exchange.
P.S. - As a former climber I opine that you are a bit wonker for breathing underwater.
That is just wrong.
You're a silly person.
For the common man on a budget,,,,, #36 or # 18 Tarred twisted Bank Line is THE STUFF
I think the fact that none of the cordage failed from lashing tri-pods together after a year said enough.
I love your videos, the only thing that give me chills is that when doing your testing, you forget all about safety glasses. Your eyes are very important, so traje care of them when testing anything that can hurt you.
I’ve used regular 550 paracord for plenty of outdoor projects over the years and it’s held up to the elements of the central PA mountains of hot summers, rainy weather, snow & ice storms in the winter. It’s always been my goto cordage but I’ve been also carrying survival cord & #36 bankline in my kit over the last year or so as well.
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@@tomquirin4231 Juniata County
I added tarred bank line to my cordage’s about four years ago. I was more than pleasantly surprised by its strength and longevity. Just my own opinion
Very interesting glad to see you don’t knock your eye out with test.
Good stuff right here. Thanks for taking the time to do the test.
Nothing really beats 550, it just works! I do have some Technora Cordage that I use for my Mjolnir Necklace though as an additional use item, that stuff is stronger than standard Kevlar line. Good stuff brother!
I am glad you didn't sustain any injuries during the testing! I had to scavenge some cordage during a class, mostly #36 bankline. Some of it was on the ground and some hanging in trees left from previous classes. None failed in any of the projects. I have seen some really old paracord and 1 in. tubular webbing turn almost brittle after multiple years of exposure.
Thanks for the video!
I liked your year long test of the different cordage. I was actually surprised how well some held up to the elements. This was quite a useful video👍.
I'm a 550 cord guy through and through. I've had some out in the sun for a couple years as part of my hawk protection for the chickens. I recently took it down and will reuse it, no problem. I love my paracord.
Interesting and surprising results. One of the (various) scary things in the Coast Guard was towing at sea. There are stories of tow lines snapping and coming back into the wheelhouse smashing the port light. No one was killed but scary! This video reminded me of that. Again, interesting and useful video!
Neat test, and practical too! Thanks!! I'm more confident now in my #36 line, and will hold the paracord for "emergencies".
Stokermatic cordage test Mythbuster-style . Jamie Heineman and Adam Savage would be proud .
Good testament to the capability of the bowline you tied as well👍
In my opinion, lashing of any kind isn't meant for long term application, it's understood that it will have to be replaced to avoid failure. That said, I use both bankline and paracord. I like bankline for projects that require a smaller footprint, or water resistance. Paracord works well for other needs [ tarp shelter, dummy cord for critical items, etc. ].
Don't leave home without them.
During this video I started to feel tense, but then I snapped out of it.
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For strength, durability, and light weight I use kevlar. For a temporary project, jute works well and will degrade pretty quickly if accidentally left behind. I also prefer the lighter weight bank line over #36.
Hello- This was a cool video and Im glad you did the testing and did not get too banged up. Im a fan of both bankline(#36) and paracord. I use the bankline for lashings, tent grommet tie-outs, tri-pods, ect.... and the paracord for ridgelines, getting stuff off the ground, ect.... I guess as with everything else, this is all personal preference, but I would never use cheap imitation made cord of any kind. Great video- Thanks-
I agree with what has already been said, #36 tarred bankline and 550 paracord is the best overall combination for general usage.
I bought some really good cordage that's called iron wire from lawson equipment and it's really good. It's 2mm and it's really strong and it holds its shape so it doesn't tangle up as easy as many others types of lines.
I have been using 550 paracord for several years. Nothing left out in the weather for a year in southern Alabama. I am going to be testing #36 bank line in the near future..i don't think i need kevlar line..
Thank for test one..please be careful with that breaking test.
I'm jiggin' to the paracord banjo!
Good info. Glad you came away unscathed. Little dirt never hurt anyone. Que no?
Awesome tests
Great video Stoker keep'em coming bud. Wishing you and yours the best. Stay safe and be well brother. 👊😎🤙🍻🇺🇸
Need a scale or meter device so we can see how many lbs of tension it takes to break each one
Hey Top. You should have used a pull weight scale to accurately measure the breaking strength of each cordage you used in the experiment, to get a baseline of strength, durability, multi-purpose use, and affordability. That way, we all can determine the best bang for our buck. Just a thought. Your initial tests are great for baseline choices. Who knows, it may just be better to get them all, and apply them for specific uses.
Interesting long-term test and reults, makes sense that the stonger kevlar cordage did the best
Excellent video sir! Thank you & God bless 🙏🏽🇺🇸
If you want to test something out in the weather here in Washington state is the place it will rot anything thanks stokers much appreciate your time. God bless and stay stoked
Pretty good test. I was waiting on you to bust your arse while pulling against the tree. You didn't disappoint. Lol hope you didn't get more than a good bump. Nice to see the results.
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Thanks for taking one for the team. I'll admit it. I laugh when you hit the ground. I'll say 550 chord. You can take it apart and use it many different sections of it.
Great idea to test some widely used cordage materials - sadly you missed to test polypropylene (PP) and polyester (PES) as well as Dyneema (UHMW-PE) too.
Polyester and Dyneema are highly UV-resistant by its own, while Nylon, PP and Kevlar only get SOME UV-resistance, if treated. Climbing ropes often come with a polyester shell and a Nylon core to get the best of both worlds. For a static line a braided Dyneema line with a Kevlar core would be an awesome combination.
BTW: I'm a great fan of pre-cut cordage, so I don't have to fiddle around with fraying ends in the field. I use super-glue on Kevlar to keep the ends slim and tidy.
Another outstanding video brother! Thanks
You should have done the same test but put a breathable size load test scale in between and watched how much strength it retained
Around here bankline is hard to come by and fairly expensive. So I stick to 550 paracord or lighter duty kernmantle. For actual climbing and rappeling I stick to dedicated climbing rope. That rope does not get used for other purposes.
Great video. God bless. From Glenn CATT. In Massachusetts.
Thnx
Thank you!😮😊
Watching you do these tests, I was wondering who is going to do your line of duty determination 🤣
My shirt kept me protected. 🥃
That is a great video 📹!! Thank you so much !!
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love this great idea to test this way
Great test.
That was a good test now I know paracords and okay which I have a lot of
Where I’m at in NEast Texas, the problem we have here is squirrel’s.
They will eat and chew on anything other than paracord. I’ve never tried Kevlar cordage and suspect it would be ok too, but as you said it’s expensive.
Did the lines fail at the knots, the sharp edge of the ratchet hook, or in the middle of the strand?
I'm really impressed with the performance of all of these cords, as UV damage is generally the failure point with synthetic line. I didn't expect them to handle 365 days of sunshine that well. Rot/moisture generally only affects natural fiber cordage.
Maybe I need to twist up some rope made from that tarred bank line...
Middle of cord - not at knot. Great question!
Good video, thanks for sharing, God bless !
Personally, Stoker. You should really perform a actual scientific study doing exactly what you just did to provide factual data coming in and comparing it to actual factual data coming out.
As a engineer and a actual trained lifetime survivalist who is prepared to walk into the scrub and not come back out when the shit hits the fan, I personally find tremendous interest and value in knowing that information!
Perfect example would be using cordage in a load bearing survival structure and how long the lashings, etc, will maintain their structural integrity before they fail under environmental stress from especially U.V rays and continuous wet dry cycles before they dry rot
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Thanks!!!! This is the kind of info I can't test for. Now, a question I have is "What is the breaking strength of mil spec paracord with one strand removed? Two strands? Three? " I think you'd need a dynamometer to test this, but any info is great.
Those ratchet straps look very familiar 😂. Solid test I’ve been wanting to test Rapid Rope utility cord against 550, I like the rapid rope a lot especially to keep in a vehicle comes with a canister with cutter and you buy rope refills.
Funny how those 'ratchet straps' always look familiar when your friends keep borrowing your truck and trailer - know what I mean?
😂🤣
@@STOKERMATIC if you know, you know, I got lots of stuff that looks oddly familiar, to stuff we used 😂.
I was afraid those broken line would have slashed right into you.
And that is why no one will remember your name....
@@bafumat I should care why?
@@josephg.3370 because you kinda sounded like you needed a flick in the nuts there my man. Welcome back to male awesomeness.
It’s ok - I had on an invisible PT belt.
I was waiting for what pitch the kevlar had, after you measured the paracord. 😐
More good useful information.
Good for beekeeping ;-)
You can buy a digital scale with a hook on it which would measure the breaking point of all of those lines. Then we would know the numbers to expect. Not to expensive. I have one.
You usually have a small bottle with you that you can keep in your pocket. Do you have any tips on liquid you can have in such a bottle? Water is not an option.
One bulleit at a time. 🥃
Good stuff
When you dont test by scientific standards even if they are your own standards it cant be quantified. Although it would have been nice to get the new vs year weathered technical specs. But it was fun for you and you got some views.
amsteel cordage. made with dyneema, which is stronger than steel by weight. its expensive, but its the best of the best.
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Stoker, Stoker, Stoker - EYE PRO dude! Although you might look awesome with an eye patch! Never seen the cordage test before by anyone - awesome project! Think I've got a roll of #18 bank line somewhere and a couple large rolls of 550 cord (mil spec? Damn - and I know better! I'll skin it and see). Love the T-shirt!
Very interesting! Thanks man!!
👍👍 ...Alan in 🇨🇱
I normally enjoy your videos. I’m gonna give you a fail on this one. You had a whole year to prepare for testing the cordage and that was the best you could do? Why not put a spring scale between the tree and the ratchet strap? The you could measure the amount of force in pounds or kilograms it took to break the line. For that matter, a small coffin hoist or come-along would be better than the cheesy ratchet strap but I guess it worked. Other commenters, please don’t hate me for not being a slavish fanboy.
No worries amigo. Lots to the story of why it went down the way it did.
@@STOKERMATICwell it’s all good. You’re certainly allowed one. I hope all is well with you and yours. I’m looking forward to your next installment.
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You was not using any ppe good way to lose an eye
the sun is the killer
Structurally, my personal experience over long term field use where cordage is directly exposed to the elements and changes of the seasons, there is a huge difference in longevity of using actual MIL SPEC PARACORD (from 5 Col Survival) vs the commercially available so called Mil Spec Paracord thar is made in the USA.
So, with that said, for long term usage of constantly being exposed to UV rays, Rain, climatic temperature ranges, spend the money and buy the genuine article.
I will not buy ANYTHING that I cannot depend on my life with!
Enough said!
☝️
Great video, rated A-Flat, lol
This was a real stinker. Firstly the applications for each type of cordage weren’t addressed. Bank line is preferable around water. Or in heavy precipitation. Super cord is a gimmick so that REI Warriors have a wax jute line and cheap ass monofilament inside the nylon sheathing (to this day no one knows why) Also you failed to mention that by tying knots in your rigging you diminish the tensile and load bearing strength of each cordage by halves and half again. This is rigging 101. And it’s a pretty big safety issue. Bro? Number 36 bank line and 9 or 11 strand Super Cord are related the same way slip jaw pliers, Channel Locks and a Crescent wrench are related. I still 👍🏼upped you cuz falling on your ass shows heart
No hate here. I just think you missed a heckuva opportunity 👊🏼💥