Can We Train This Riding Horse To Drive??? // Adjusting Horse Harnesses
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- Today @ Working Horses With Jim, we see if we can train Justin's riding horse how to drive, and we talk a little bit more about adjusting the horse's harnesses.
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Great to see someone like yourself passing on that knowledge and in such a calm unflustered fashion.
Jim, you are an excellent teacher! Keep calm and drink some tea and everything will be all right. That little mare will be working and doing just fine with a little practice. Well done!
She is doing good, thanks
So great that Justin has you to help him along Jim. Thank you for being there for him.
Of course you can they've been doing it for 100 years. I had an appaloosa no tail very short mane is one of the best horses I ever had. I pulled out a Chevrolet out of the ditch with that saddle horse. Her name was Lady. She was trained for harness and then I trained her sister. Great video thanks for sharing.
Sounds like you've had some useful horses! Thanks for watching
Brenda to Jim: "What'd you do today Jim"? Jim to Brenda" "Oh, went to the neighbors and horsed around"! Justin had a great teacher today. At the end, Justin relaxed the reins just a little bit and that helped.
I spend more time watching .. I in my 90s now work most with my eyes ..keep the good work up Jim and thank all you the wife and the 2 girls. For me and the hours of great reading ..
Thanks so much for watching. Glad you can work with your eyes still :)
The intelligence that these beautiful creatures have is just amazing. Great video once again!!!
Yes they are, thanks for watching
Nice that the neighbour recognised she was calmer after Jim worked with her. Also good that he recognised he was much of the problem and will therefore be more open to working with her, rather than against her.
Wow, an awful lot of hazards to navigate. They will be prepared for combined driving competitions in no time if she learns in that environment!
My last horse was never much of a riding horse, but after I broke him to chains and then shafts, he found his calling. She looks to be in line for being useful for both ride and drive.
Oh to have someone like Jim living just down the road.....
Yes, she is doing well
The fact he saw it means he has the awareness needed to work with horses. Good people
She did really well, especially with the noise going over the gravel🙌🏼 The gradual increase in weight was good, not going to long and ending on a good note👍🏼
Not only the noise of dragging over gravel but the sounds of a barking dog and neighing horse.
Always good to end on that good note!
I think she enjoys it! She certainly didn’t protest and seemed to understand very quickly
Nearly EVERY riding horse is trained to drive before they are ever ridden. But training them to pull objects and then weight is an entirely different situation. This takes patients and dedication. It seems that Jim clearly understands the fundamentals of this part of the training quite well.
Thanks!
As far as training them to drive first, that mainly depends on the local trainers.
Here in where I live in Florida, we don't have many people who know how to do that, so most of the horses around here are just saddle horses.
A few people ( like myself) at least ground drive them, but people here seldom put them to cart.
Yes! My mom and I stayed on a race farm in Germany and they trained their youngsters to pull small carriages first! Built tons of muscle and stamina!
All the small steps help any horse learn new things! Great job!
Experience is gold and giving of one’s self is priceless! Amazing difference in just a short time
Nothing like helping out a friend thanks jim god bless
Jim your a good neighbor, and teacher. I never knew that harnessing and training was so detailed. Thanks for sharing, and happy holiday. 👍
Thanks
i agree.. thxs for showing us this Jim
I’m no expert, but I think Jim is right. Practice doing half halts with her now. Full halts now are pointless. Also, I feel like she would benefit from a bridle with blinders. She is very smart, but some horses think the dragging single tree and traces are chasing them. That’s sometimes why they fidget and move around after stopping. It’s like they think they are walking away from the harness and stuff behind them, but when they stop, they get nervous and think the stuff behind them could hurt them. ...Try out blinders and see what happens.
Seeing this again it's really nice you help teach the young...mr.jim the teacher for sure...
I sure wish you were a little closer Jim... I've been trying to teach myself off of your videos... sure wish I had a second set of hands and some one with good experience to train...
It seems like Justin has a great teacher , there .
I love your videos. I have 2 ponies that are 20 years old. I have had them a long time. They are my first horses. I have learned a lot with them. I am hoping to soon get a team of drafts. So I just want to say thank you. For all the help you have given to me.
You're welcome, it's good to hear I'm helping someone. Hope you get your Drafts soon
Thanks for sharing! Thanks for helping Justin to learn! He has the best teacher!!
It is wonderful to watch a teacher, take time with a student!! You should be giving lessons to so many, Jim
He is giving lessons. I was getting a schooling while watching the video.
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Great!
Good job I trained my horses the same way.Now when my back is up to it I go out and work with my wife's appaloosa.I have a scoot or stone boat I made a few years ago. I took a 4x6 and cut the end at a angle and nailed 2 inch hemlock on the top.IT's about 4 foot by 6 foot.It works good.When he gets used to that, I jump on and ride for a little while,than I give him a brake.The more time you can spend the better they get.Thanks for the video
A masterclass, great to witness
Thanks for watching
Your a great ambassador and instructor, Mr. Jim..
This riding horse is going to train good for a working horse. Just work through the issues. Well Done.
Yes, thanks
He's lucky to have a neighbor like you Jim it shouldn't take to long to train her keep the videos coming stay safe and God bless
Thanks, God bless you also!
That horse will work to harness. Grandaddy told me if you couldn't work a saddle horse to harness or ride a plow horse you needed to trade. Thanks for sharing
Always good to hear the last generation's wisdom, thanks for watching
I'm happy to have stumbled on you channel. It put more insight on what was doing wrong. Thank you from🇨🇦
You are very welcome, glad to help
Great everything coming together anothergood share thank you both and that awsome horse
Good afternoon Jim,really enjoyed watching this video thankyou.l did notice that the mare was quite uncomfortable walking on gravel,lm sure Justin will get her hooves sorted out.Very very nice mare, kind and calm....she should do very well.The way you speak to any horse Jim is truly from your heart ❤ brings a tear to my eye.Thankyou for taking the time and sharing your videos,your a true inspiration. All the very best 🌱🌱🌱💕🇬🇧uk
Enjoyed the vid. Like that you identified that she has a tender mouth. Might be that Justin has some more explanation of that to aid in his process. Had a quarter/Welch pony cross gilding 4 year old as a youngster. Broke to ride to start broke to drive with help of my grandfather. Went to blinder bridal with drive and non blinder with ride and horse seemed to totally understand. Just a thought. Be safe and be careful.
Thanks for sharing and for watching!
We had a small riding horse 13 HANDS . She was never a great saddle horse but would pull the small buggy we had all day and I swear you could see her smile.
She found her calling :)
Why not? My mule and quarter horse were both trained in harness!
Just found this one. I have to advise you that as woman a harness must be smooth and extremely comfortable all seems on the outside. The advice on softly softly is so right.
Just wanted to add my experience as a farrier. Doesn't look like that horse has too much depth in the sole. I would start working on the quarters of the foot, rasp down the flairs on the walls and shape that toe up. if he has a sharp knife scrap a little off the sole not much cause it doesnt look like it has much sole.
Thanks!
Yes, you absolutely can. Here is a short clip of a Lusitano that up until I bought him had been a dressage horse. We taught him to drive this winter, shot archery off him and saddle rode him three days a week up in the mountains here around the house. He can now do pretty much anything. About the only thing I haven't done off him is rope. Now that he is a lot more useful than a simple lesson horse he will go out for sale sometime in June and hopefully have a much richer life than he would have had just being a lesson horse at a dressage stable: ua-cam.com/video/m4Bw6gVXsQw/v-deo.html
Go to settings and switch it to 1080p as for some reason all my videos default to low resolution playback even though they are shot in HD.
Good teaching video Jim. Thanks to you and Justin for sharing. She is a striking mare and seems to be level headed. Hope her front hoof is okay.
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Yes, she is a nice horse
Good one.The little lady is doing just fine.
Just like with children -- "reward approximation"! 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🐴
That was a sweetly successful beginning Jim, she's a good little horse. Things could have been much, much more exciting than that, lovely start. I could almost feel her responding to your knowing a lot about what you asked her to do. And no blinders, she could see it all and was not afraid, maybe she's drug a beast or two from the saddle. Shame about that foot, what we call seedy toe when the wall comes away like that, and mine always had a bit of seedy toe, never caused a problem, wants all cutting away, and perhaps shoes for protection. Good video, yours are always worth watching.
Thanks for watching Louise
That's a good little mare, not skittish at all. She will be fine and you and Justin are taking the right steps to train her. I have trained a good many horses in my life for driving. There comes the point when you have to put the horse in shafts. I found it useful to use PVC pipes in preparation for that before a cart is put behind the horse. The horse will learn to walk between them while they are in the shaft holders, maybe with a person holding them and allowing them to touch the horse's sides.
Sounds like a good idea
Happy Trails from Canada.
Same to you!
for not having blinders I think she is doing great it freaks some horses out if they can see what they are pulling
That horse is doing really awsome wow such a beautiful job
Yes she is
Good training. It shows the previous work and the genes of the horse. Congratulations,
Yes, thanks
Nice job! My first driving horse was my Morgan quarter horse mare. She ended up preferring riding to driving. There is no reason that a light horse can’t drive. Nice sequencing.
Thanks
Immer langsam beim anlernen,gut so👍
I have had many horses that did both, my Arabian also was show used as a hunter.
Great!
Is there another video updating Justin's progress with her? Or is another video a possibility?
Great video .
You make it look so easy. Thanks for the vid.
Great video😊
Love watching your videos
Glad you like them!
She will be working in no time
Great video! Has he thought about Blinders/Blinkers on the bridle to maybe help keep her focus a little better?
It wouldn't hurt but he's just working with what he has
She loves you guys she is like i love it hear so glade to get away from amish jim and justin she loving her life and she is a real nice girl
Yes she is
Your a great helper good advice thanks for sharing
Thanks for taking time to watch
We had a gentle riding horse that we worked with harness but only one time did I do it without a blind bridle, bad accident.
Maybe she thinks the black tire is a bear chasing after her....
Jim, you are amazing with horses. That is a really nice horse. Your friend is doing a great job. However, I can't even watch the end of the video for the number of hazards making my hair stand on end. Seriously, guys, put the bikes away. Put the gas can away. Put it all inside the shed while you work the horse, instead of stacked around the shed. Move away from that back hoe bucket hanging in midair. If nothing else, back the machine up close to the shed so there is something to keep the horse from running into it. What happens if the hook on the end of that dragging chain catches any of those things? What happens if that dragging chain hook catches the gas can? Can you imagine a runaway with a gas can on the end? A runaway dragging a bicycle by a chain? A nylon britching strap catching a backhoe bucket as you walk by?
I have always used either a tractor tire or a semi tire for breaking in, and precisely because I've seen some really bad accidents with other things. Decades ago, a friend of mine hooked to a fence post the first time. The horse jumped a fence with it, one trace let go and the fence post impaled the horse through the ribs. It was dead before it landed on the other side. That same person had another bad accident driving a two wheeled cart too close the the riding ring fence, and caught the end of the shaft on a fence post at a brisk trot: same fence, different horse.
I've got no beef with the way you are doing things. You are an amazing horseman, doing a great job as usual. My only caution is that your friend needs to clean up the area of operation before he works the horse, and stick to the tire. At least a tire will bounce off the horse, or the horse will bounce off the tire.
Great job! 👍🏻
Thanks!
She is a very nice mare! I like her a lot.
That front hoof has some big problems. It looks like white line disease. Needs some intensive treatment. White line can be very difficult to get rid of. I hope she does ok with that hoof.
Thanks for sharing
It is not easy as a plow horse bit rains while a riding horse is neck rained ..i knew this one time and the horse was confused at times ..not the best thing ..
*Hello from México*
Hello and thanks for watching
My horse keeps flipping around when I’m working on getting her to walk
I think the lines need to be extended a little when she is pulling. That metal rod on the ground seems to be too close to her? Also Jim, is there actual chain being used as a part of her harness? On her rear.
The chains you are probably seeing are the heel chains connected to the tugs.
Well, I know you can ride a driving horse. I also know a barrel racer makes a lousy hunter.
There are very few breeds specific to driving. Throughout history, horses were rarely considered to be "broke" unless they could do both. Many breeds were created to be saddle/buggy horses. In other breeds, like the Lippizan, the stallions were used for riding while the mares were considered carriage/coaching horses. In times of heavy work, like during plowing season, most farmers would put the buggy horses to work too, to take a bit of the load off their heavy horses. The Amish and Mennonites still do so. You can move your eveners around a hole or two so that the heavy horses are pulling a bigger load and the lighter horses are pulling a lighter load. I had a pair of Kentucky Mountain Saddle horses crossed on Appaloosa who were around 720-750 lbs each, soaking wet with shoes on. The dam was gaited and a fast racking horse. The daughter never hit a lick once. Both were decent saddle horses but excelled in harness. They weren't heavy enough for plowing, but they did many farm chores including cultivating the garden, spreading manure, pulling a stone boat for rock picking chores, mowing pastures and skidding logs out of the woods. They did horse and carriage weddings all around the Baltimore area, and participated in carriage shows up and down the east coast. They often beat my employer's pair of Canadian crossbreds, and he would sulk all the way home when the only ribbons in the camper window were mine.
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I would have two harnesses that would fit that horse.
We always broke our riding horses to work usually before breaking them to ride.
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Kind of concerned about the emaciated horse in the background. What's going on there?
Is that a pony harness? Looks small on the mare.
The pretty mare is a horse with no name? She did a good job.
Her name is Beauty. Yes she did
LOL ... I've been to desert on horse with no name ...
She did great i think she realy like u guys that i imagin makes all the diference you can see on video she is trying to please she thinks she has died and gone to hevin living with justin
Just keep telling them Eric, the rest is up to the Lord!
My Grandfather, a old farmer told me: Workhorse is not a horse to riding, Riding Horse is never good to working on the Farm…😊
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That other horse we saw in the lot alongside the one Justin and you were training, is he/she a friend of that little mare of Justin?
Because, I don't think it's good for a horse to live alone.
Mind you, «I think it isn't good» you know better than me, that's for sure.
That is Justin's neighbor's horse and they are used to seeing each other all the time. Yes horses sure like being around other horses!
@@WorkingHorsesWithJim Happy for that horse girl that seems to be sympathetic. As usual, plenty of interesting details. Thanks again..
@@WorkingHorsesWithJim need groceries.
Whats the pedigree do you have in your mare
Justin is not sure
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Realizing I'm late to the party but I think blinkers on the bridle would help a bit. This horse is too concerned with what's behind her and keeps turning her head to look.
@@smokeykit57 Hi Cera. First of all, you do realize that you're replying to a comment that is a year old. Second, I'm quite familiar with Barry Hook. I admire his training methods and style but personally don't quite fall into the touchy feely camp he's in. He takes some unnecessary and, frankly, quite dangerous risks in his training. Finally, I'm not going back to rewatch this video, but if I remember correctly, the horse in this video is overly concerned with what is "chasing it." Not necessary to go into the whole prey animal explanation, blinkers would help to not be aware of what is chaxing it. As much as we humans want to anthropomorphize our critters, horses just don't rationalize things the way we do. They don't really understand that they are causing the object to chase them. They know that it's latched on and continues to follow no matter how hard they try to get away. What they can be trained to understand is that it's not going to eat them, escentially that it's ok for it to follw.
Hey, I still understood that scissors with the mane. Stands have long been banned in Germany for reasons of animal welfare. But this video is really awesome. Regardless of how you groom your hooves, but you have to be more than painless to harness young horses. The horse is tied to the car and harnessed. The rest is no better either. I thought I could learn something from the Amish people, some videos are very interesting. You shouldn't have uploaded this video. I'm already looking forward to the sequel. Remember Jim, you are not 20 years old either, you should be a little more careful.
Trim the poor horse, s feet before you work her !
It's very scary that a person with no idea what he is doing is trying to train a horse to do something