2022 Honda Civic Si - What's actually different??
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The 2022 Honda Civic Si is here and let’s get right to it, it looks absolutely fantastic.
The 2022 Honda Civic Si will only be available as a four-door sedan meaning you can’t have it with the regular Civic hatchback design.
It does take some bits and pieces from the old hatchback Type-R though and one of the more important ones is the fantastic 6-speed manual transmission.
Honda isn’t playing around here and they’re really doing their part in saving the manuals by making it the only option for the new 2022 Si.
Another feature carried over is the Type R's rev-matching feature, which some people like and some don’t. If you’re not a fan of it, no need to worry, it can still be turned off completely.
The 2022 Honda Civic Si is powered by the same turbocharged 1.5-liter I-4 as before, however it now puts out 200 horsepower and 192 lb-ft of torque.
This in combination with a relatively light car and the six-speed manual should make for an engaging driving experience.
The transmission isn’t completely the same as the old one. Honda did a bit of tweaking to shorten the shift throws by 10% and also improve the overall shift feel.
The old transmission was an absolute joy to use and I look forward to seeing how this new one feels.
As we’re used to with Civics the new 2022 Si is front-wheel drive only.
What about the wheels? The plantedness and visual connection to the ground? Well the Si comes standard with all-season 235/40 tires and optional summer tires all around with unique Si matte-black 18-inch rims.
They don’t look too bad and I bet they’re very comfortable. But those are definitely the first to go if I bought one of these. For my personal taste, I want more connection to the ground than these wheels give me visually.
The biggest news on the inside is the 9-inch infotainment screen with wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto which are connected to a 12-speaker Bose stereo system.
You could buy the previous generation Si for as little as $26,000 and even though this new model is expected to be more expensive than that, it won’t be by much.
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I liked that Honda went back to a ‘traditional’ yet identifiable design, but with a few details, side view reminds me of last gen Kia and at the back, those taillights are an oversized version of the ones in the 7th gen Jetta, as for the Si version, looks like something you can do with their own parts catalog, nothing with a wow factor apart from the orange color, let’s wait for the type R.
The Si has more HP than the standard model civics as well
10th gen Honda Civic still better looking imo
It's pretty crazy seeing the split in the community. I think it can definitely go both ways but I like the "boring" look more. It's like a sporty accord which looks cool to me. I can see how the design is a let down for other people though. I really wanted a 10th gen and now I would be happy with this. Not sure about the red around the honeycomb vent, I'd get that wrapped or maybe it's an easy to pop off part.
Now I can't get either generation cause car prices are dookie.
More people like this than the disaster that was the previous generation.
@@iwontreplybacklol7481 more loyal civic fans hated this than the previous better looking sporty gen.
10th gen looked like an overdone 10yr olds drawing with fake vents. 11th gen is clean with a lot of room for custom parts to shape it better
The Civil looks like a VW Jetta now
The wheels of the normal civic look kind of similar to the 2015 subaru liberty/legacy wheels.
It looks so plain. Looks like someone just went to an aftermarket company and just slapped a spoiler on it
I hope they have optional lips or different wheel options. Maybe even an alternate wing option.
Wait I think they do actually do offer an HPD pack or something.
Yup. I actually think last gen looks better
I agree. Seems lazy that SI doesnt get its own front facia, only grill, and the spoiler might look better being just a smooth steady lip extension without the dip in the middle.
honda still wants to use wrong wheel drive aka front wheel drive for there performance cars. they could at least make the Si a awd. geesh.
Just bring the European model Sport Line Type R .... With smaller wheels, dark colored seats, lower profile rear wing, etc.
I like the mew Honda style and design. Again, not much you can change. But from what I see, it is quite amazing that Honda trying a new design style. I do like it. 👍
Not a huge fan of the hatchback, so this is pretty nice imo
The new Subaru WRX can learn a lot from Honda's styling of the civic.
That’s why I still have my 2020 WRX lol not planning on trading it for the 22
I Love my Nissan Sentra & Altima, even Corolla Standard Shift, planning to get a Civic Standard Shift 2023
looks boring they should've made a hatchback one
Where the absolute hell did you get the type r tranny in the Si?! This is an l15b7. Not a k20c. 2 ENTIRELY different platforms. Stop. L15b7 is a terrible, terrible transmission without upgraded synchros.
Wish they would have 2-Door Coupe Option 🥲
It looks ok, I'm a bit disappointed
Pretty cool design.
is that bakhoor ?
Yeah, but the tail lights are still too big!
I am not a fan of reduced power. The SI needs another 40 hp.
Nothing that a Ktuner cant easily take care of for cheap
I just want the Type R to be a 5 seater instead of the 4 seater it has been.
You’re part of the problem
@@lethalpenguin61 What problem are you referring to?
@@Tjtjboy the problem of the manufactures feeling like they have to scale up and make everything bigger, even when its a sports car were talking about. the fact that you are even asking for the type R to have more seats is deeply offensive to anyone who is a car enthusiast. and frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself.
@@lethalpenguin61 If car enthusiast gets offended over someone else's preferences, then that's their problem. And I have never been ashamed of my own preferences. I stand by what I said. I want that extra seat in the middle of the back seat of the Type R.
@@Tjtjboy people like you are killing sports cars
If by looking fantastic you mean boring then yeah, it's very fantastic. A fun design it ain't, for me.
Yeah , I guess you could stick with 10 Gen that looks like it was designed by a kindergartener's drawing .
video at 0:03: “It looks absolutely fantastic....”. Me: pause the video, claim his blind, and close the video.
Who the fuck decreases horsepower??? Honda🤣🤷🏻♂️
I like the styling. But to call it stunning? Come on. lol...I own a 18 R. We'll see what comes of it. Might just trade it in. I'm hopeful. Hopefully the looks and sound supersede the 10th gen.
Looks like 1990's
Don't buy any car now. Honda civic 2016 used car is now $30000. Holly S. Hold on until IC engine car market crashes, and EV is in mass production which is 2023. Then you can buy any Honda at $10000.
That wing has become so generic
it does not look absolutely fantastic
Having owned a 9th Gen 2013 Coupe Si with the 2.4 is one of the best.
Sorry kid, 6th and 8th was the best. You missed out
Definitely loved the level headed way you went about this car. I think this generation Type R is going to look absolutely perfect, I can't wait.
If it was a sedan then yes but as the hatchback will look ugly from the rear
@@jovtecxtv1321 a Sedan Type R this gen would've been absolutely perfect I know
Good visual comparison. However- would you please do the same comparison between the 10th Gen Si and this 11th Gen Si? I'd like to see how the two compare and differ.
all I can say about it is thank you for finally giving the civic dual exposed exhaust
The regular Civic hatch has that
@@enriqueali oh I didn’t notice that well I don’t count that because it’s just some crappy look surround bumper piece
I like the new Honda Civic, but what disappoints me about the Si is the fact that it doesn’t look any different from your standard base model. Of course it has a different exhaust and little deck lid spoiler but that can be easily changed in the aftermarket. I would have incorporated some fog lights, a hood with a little bit of a bulge to make the front end look a little more aggressive and quad tips for the rear. Also, I don’t know if I am missing the point on what this car is trying to be but I drive a car from 2008 with 253 HP and the fact that this is 50 HP less for a sport model is kind of disappointing. I think 275 HP would have been good and the Civic Type R should have had 350.
Definitely. Especially since Honda is adding Turbos to their Engines. The SI should’ve been around 250HP. They shouldn’t have gone down to a 1.5L rather just should’ve kept the K20 with a turbo to give it the proper power. 15 years and they’re still at 200hp. 🤦♂️
Tell me when the Si looked different than the standard base model... don't worry I'll wait...
In 10 years when It's depreciated to hell and back maybe I'll be able to afford it.
It's a Honda they don't depreciate much
Civic Si vs Hatchback ... both are quality good, one is gear more toward fun (Si) and the other one is for practicality (large cargo capacity), I really wanted a Hatchback Si, Type R is grat for sure but for where I live, it will get stolen in the blink of an eye x_x
Why don't you give us your version of the TypeR Sketch...love your work
Fantastic ? 🤨 are we looking at the same car?
It's a great car. I traded in a "19 Sport for a "22 Touring Civic and it's a huge improvement inside and out.
Omg why less power!!?? They needed to improve the 0-60!
Imagine buying a brand new Si, and then being smoked by an older gen Si. 🤦♂️
That comment is so ignorant and completely stupid I won’t even give a proper response
@@WOMPCRASH lemme guess: you’re planning to buy the new one with less power 😂
Ma ma Mia!
@Dale Macarena they skipped 2021…good luck
They ruined it.
Gr86: RWD, 228HP, LIGHTWEIGHT, SPORT STYLINGS, SUBIE ENGINE...
CIVIC SI: 4 DOORS...
na, the older one looks way better
It's looking more like an Accord and is getting bigger...RIP Honda Civic.
All I can say is that I heavily prefer how the Chinese market Honda Integra looks over our Civic. If we got the Chinese Integra design here and that got an Si, I would've been very interested in buying one. Seriously, what are the designers in Japan doing? How did Chinese designers beat them??
I think the Chinese one looks like cheap ebay aftermarket. I'd take a fresh 8th gen over either.
a car with 90 hp can be more fun than a car with 300 hp... i stopped listening there. sure a go kart can be fun, but who wants to get smoked off the line by a corolla?
IKR , he probably got paid to say that crap.
It’s an average design. Not ugly, but it doesn’t stand out at all. I honestly prefer the looks of the 10th gen.
No hate to the car or etc but only ppl who like/love this car love Accords. Not Civics since this thang is tweakin, I’m still a proud owner of a 2016 Touring and I love it better than this. I’ll wait for the next best thing in Accord/Integra. :D And Accord better not look like this! 😆
And I think I heard they took away the heated seats.... why would you downgrade some aspects of a NEWER car??
I’m trying to not hate this car but I just can’t bring myself to like it
It lost some of the aggressive looks the 10th gen had that gave it an appealing look imo
I am a fan of any liftback.
Actually prefer the look of the standard civic 😅
I have too say .. I just have the new 2022 bace Honda Civic sport..sedan ..and on and off center feel in the steering,damping , and spring rates.. the overall driving dynamics.. for the non high performance model is fantastic!! The new si and type r should be outstanding!
Any new car around 200hp with new coilovers should feel fantastic, if you don't push the limits of the car and test other cars you would not be able to identify whats missing
That's all well and sound good until you see what's on offer beyond the northern borders 😳
On the outside alone, the Canadian Honda Civic Si comes with fog lights. It also has parking sensors at the front and at the back, while the LED turn signals are already integrated on the side mirrors. Of note, the US version has only one advantage over the Canadian Civic Si, and that's the availability of the $200 High Performance Tires (HPT) upgrade, which isn't available north of the border.
Inside, the baffling changes continue as the Canadian Civic Si comes standard with a 10.2-inch TFT display for the instrument that changes depending on the drive modes. It also has shift lights, while the cabin gets heated seats, front and back, and a heated steering wheel.
Climate control's also dual-zone for the Canadian Civic Si, while the rearview mirror is auto-dimming and integrated with a home link for garage door integration. There's a wireless smartphone charger, finishing the list of specs that the US Civic Si doesn't have.
This is fine since not all of these features are coveted ones for the US market - until you learn that the Canadian Civic Si is actually cheaper than the US counterpart.
Of note, the Civic Si in Canada starts at CAD $33,150😃😃😃
I love the way you redesign it, i think it looks better too with a small taillight. Can you do more of a series of redesigns? And focus on designs that last and look good for years to come.
Lol this man said it looks good. It looks very bland. Not even the last gen si looked this sad.
I have a last gen and it's a bulky mess... This is clean like how Honda's used to look. In person it looks even more aggressive
@@Hondaddy Yea, I don't think that you know what aggressive is. I've seen a couple of sport models in the streets, basically an accord sport. Even the corolla looks sportier than this.
The reason it got toned down is probably because people just didn't like the huge fake plastic vents of the previous civic, sure the front of with the fake vents looks aggressive af, but the rear just doesn't work.
You lost me when you said a 90 hp car can be more fun than a 400hp car, lol. I guess if we're talking about a go cart, lol.
The difference is one is the Si and the other is not the Si
The problem with the rear lights is that big plastic triangle on the inner lower region of each light, it covers such a large portion of the trunk and has no real use.
I think people are really disappointed with the lower power figures because we see Hondata easily pushing past those figures a generation ago. No one was delusional enough to expect 300 HP, but I think alot of people wanted 230 HP. So 200 HP, even if it is more usable, is still a huge let down.
My 2020 Si with a tune is probably making 220 without a problem, with 4 more psi of boost. Just weird they thought we needed more low end. I think 2100 rpm peak torque was low enough.
But spec wise, it looks like more of a Civic "sport package" rather than an Si, it have less horsepower than before, while it should atleast can compete with the like of Golf GTI or the new Hyundai or atleast the Mazda3 turbo, it's a bit disappointing in that part
I'm sure it would get outperformed by the Elantra N (the hyundai I'm assuming you're talking about). That's supposed to be the type r fighter from them
@@azhule4041 thats what I'm saying, it's not like this gonna kill the upcoming type-R if they decided to put more power, since type-R compete on the higher more "extreme" class than the Elantra N , the type-R competition is closer to the A45 , Focus RS and RS3, rather than Golf GTI, or A35
and also they can do it easily with the 2.0 turbo from the accord
@@ezrapardede1921 well the 2 liter accord engine is the detuned type r engine. I do think the elantra N will be a very hard hit to type r sales though. Considering its a dct auto ( instantly has more range of audience) it's close to the 300 hp mark stock (276 I think). Think Velocster N and the Type R from last gen.. If honda did add more power to the si, then it would be considered in that area. But since they didn't, the Elantra N falls closer to the type R and Velocster N than the SI
As an s2000 owner , you can’t really play with an s2000 on normal city roads , has no torque and you need a lot of space to wind the motor up where the power is … also vtec doesn’t even engage until 6k rpm’s at least on the AP1 😂
It’s only fun on the highways/ road trips
Nah I'm sorry but there's no excuse for them downgrading power, even if it's only 5HP. Lazy excuse for lazy engineering. Literally everything in the competition is increasing power. Just because they use a 6MT they get away with it? Nah.
There is no difference except for displacement of engine which is smaller than older 8th gen car. Lame!!!
Civic is not civic anymore, it’s mini accord!!!
Lame!!! It’s just getting ugly to make up for the price hike!!!
Maybe you should have compared a Civic Sport, it's worst Si civic ever
They need an Si hatch. Still waiting.
WVish looking design. I like mine 10th gen Si better. Not only exterior but interior also. I don’t like that entertainment screen “new trend” sticking out of the dash
I prefer the sport touring hatchback with a tune vs the Si
I don't know why but I just don't like the way it looks. There's just something about it that prevents me from liking it visually.
I’m happy my Sport looks almost identical for 2K less, although it’s a lot slower.
have we heard prices yet?
@@SIIKAP1 no but it’s estimated to be 26-27 USD
@@pbscars6320 let’s hope !
I bout a used accord 2.0 touring for 24k low miles and it spanks pretty much all si
@@Jdm_fl5 Nice! I wish I could’ve found one for that price before buying my Civic. The Si will probably handle better, plus it only comes in manual, but those 2.0s are mean on a drag strip.
And 99% on drivers on the road wont notice the difference between them and to them it will still be "just another Civic" lol.
You should’ve been the designer the back looks way better with the smaller tail lights
Sadly the type R is only a Hatch. And Both 10&11 Gen Hatch from Honda is disgusting.
Horrible car less horse power then my 9th gen 🤣🤣 sad honda failed with this car
compare it to the spurt model
New Si should be 2.0 L engine with 220-260 hp. 1.5 Turbo is pathetic!
It’s ugly, not sporty at all, I will keep my 2013 SI coupe
its better then the new wrx
"Beautiful car"... you mean more GENERIC car 🙄
I went with the touring model I had to have the leather
If you want to save yourself some time, the answer is nothing. It's just a mix of existing features and design that are already on the other trims
Compare the civic si with the accord
I’m getting this. I been looking for a 10th gen Si new but it’s impossible and my 10th gen hatchback sport 2021 was totaled recently and this style is growing on me
What type R had a 1.5t engine? He keeps saying the transmission from the type R.......I doubt the K20 tranny bolts up to the L15 .....
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about at all, throwing out misinformation go figures and he doesn’t know how terrible the l15b7 transmission is. I came from a 17 Si. The reliability and construction internally of the new Hondas, steered me away from Honda sadly.
That's why I like my 9thgen just fine. I can beat on it all day and it's still ticking like new 240,000 miles later
@@jrkustomz5538 Exactly!!! I have an 04 Rsx Type S. And I traded the Civic for an 09 Lexus ISF 8 speed v8 track machine. Which both will happily go well well well over 200k being beat on and still being reliable.
@@jrizzyjoe I have a 98 ex for the daily commuter and it's still putten around with a measely 314,000 on the clock . I sold my last rsx but it wasn't an S just base and sold it with over 330 on the clock. And I beat em like slaves and they still go.
You guys are dumb. The k20c1 and l15 share the same tranny. That hardly means anything though when they change everything else inside it.
Conservative = boring
Should’ve been a coop
Looks horrible
I love the blacked out trim and the new Civic looks better than the old gen.
It looks WAY better in person!!!! I'd go for white
Throw a tune and bolt ons...that will make it worth it
It's easy for a company to justify why horsepower, or an increase in it, is not necessary for a car to be fun and engaging to drive. Fact is, the Si needs more power - not less power. I was hoping the new Si could have at least 20-25 additional horses. It needs it! And Honda can do it AND make it engaging and fun too.
The proof is in the Type R. I can guarantee that Honda will bump up the HP for that vehicle and they can make it more fun and more engaging to drive. If Honda can make a 300+ hp, fwd car that has been hailed as one of the best handling, most fun cars to drive, they can surely put a little more power in the Si and still make it a fantastic car to drive. But instead, Honda reduces the hp by 5 and claim that it will be a better, overall car.
Give me a break!
Car is almost accords size. Hood is long, not proportion when you look at the side. They didnt test the 2.0L engine.. always the 1.5L turbo..
i think they may the tail lights bigger for the wider type r
I like the standard model wheels more than the blacked out Si wheels. Although I think blacking out everything is past overdone now. OEMs do tend to pick up trends when they are passed due. :) Problem GM has with some of their sport trims black out too much see the Corvette. The black trim around the window is ok. The front grill change I think it's better than the standard model and maybe should be considered for Civics across the board. But the blacked out mirrors....eh leave it body colored. The lip spoiler on the trunk would be better probably body colored too.
Should be a fun car. Wish they did that Acura Metallic Red too.
Oh and I agree with the tail lights comment. When I first saw pictures thought they were too big. Then I saw one on the road and thought it's not so bad. They have grown on me.
I honestly think it looks amazing and is simple but looks like a civic still. I’m going to buy one once I finish highschool which is this year and absolutely can’t wait
is the honda civic rs same with that of a honda civic si? if not, what is/are the differenc(es)?
can you do more of these but compared to older generations? that would be great for people like me who owned the older generations of SI
You can see that they took inspiration from the EG, EK and FD generation of civic.
Meh, it looks like a half-assed effort.
Could you please make a video on the Nio ET7
Maybe you should go to honda and design a type r see if it sells
Great video. The civic sport model is more similar to the civic si. Same wheel style and blacked out side mirrors.
I'll tell you whats different....the Si badge and sport wheels