Man, David is great at camera reviews. Having someone who is passionate about the subject but otherwise spends his days on other tech subjects comes through in his dialogue...he clearly loves making these. Also, this was the best explanation of Content Credentials that I have found yet. Great stuff
No doubt. Markus…it’s your shop. You already know that putting the spotlight on talent is a critical element necessary in achieving excellence. This kid David might very well be your best resource and extension of your capacity. 🙌
Not only is David really passionate about this stuff, but he explains it REALLY WELL. Great qualities for someone making videos like this. Well done, man.
I have to say that your camera videos are some of my favorites on youtube. They never feel too long and I like the balance of not to much spec reading.
eh. this one was kinda boring and long. I prefer the camera reviews where he talks about how the photos are being taken, the physics etc, then shows some sick shots. this....was a wiki article being read on camera.
I've been subed and watching for about a year now and David's camera videos are literally THE BEST THING that is uploaded from the MKBHD Studio. I would love to see a series where he explains more about cameras. Everything from the basics of photography (exposure triangle) to the technical side like sensors sizes, color sciences and lens options. Also massive credit to the graphics, very well done as always both in quality and story telling.
I absolutely love them too, as good as it gets. except the dust ad fingerprints on the camera in the opening shot just kinda hurt my soul, also the lens was focused on the shotgun mic the whole video... the actual contents of the video, the explanation, writing delivery was perfect. But the studio has built quite the name for itself in production value, and this seems sloppy.
I'd love to see David's take on a beginner getting into photography or film photography specifically, he has really captivated my attention with this stuff but I wouldn't be sure where to begin!
The David's lessons are always the best. Aside that and how beautiful and divulgative these videos are, we should hope that some method like this takes place, otherwise internet will become a very very dark jungle.
Great video, David! Just got mine this week. Sooo good with low light and shadow recovery. I haven't really dealt with the "credentials" thing yet, but it's nice to have.
I genuinely have just a passing interest in photography and this corner of tech - but the storytelling and this videos production is so compelling and satisfying I’ve stayed and learnt something - thanks
Yeah i think we're not far from it. You already have cryptographic chips on every smartphone since most of your data on phone is encrypted by default so a software update could bring it quite easily. And in my opinion that would be the point of critical mass that he has talked about.
Truepic is an example of an SDK that adds CAI capabilities to any "photo" app on Android and IOS. So if it caught on even apps like Filmic Pro could easily link against them to gain said capabilities. So, even if the phone manufacturers didn't do it in the stock app there are ways for third parties to integrate it if they wanted. The keys could be stored in the enclaves that are already provided by many manufacturers via SDKs.
This makes me genuine happy. As a photographer who wants to do this as an art form I hated Ai and the upcoming tools that are in this world right now. But Ai works so well when working for clients. This tool just gives me a real split in my work and others will know what is modified and what not. So the real art can and will stay art, but my client work can be mixed with Ai *sigh of relief*
Thank you so much David! Appreciate the simple and clear explanation and use case for this. I look forward to your contributions to this channel. I'm hoping Content Credentials does gain traction and is implemented more widely.
Great explanation, people need to understand that this is very important. The screenshot thing could be avoided with digital watermarks. Hope this will get lots of attention in the future. Thanks for doing this video!
Digital watermarks can be edited out with generative fill. A watermark would need to be overlayed over a large portion of the photo or video. But that would be annoying and destroy a lot pieces.
David Really love your videos. I have had this exact experience where my work was used although I’m not famous it still makes me feel some type of way. Thanks so much for sharing.Always enjoy your work and for keeping it real.✌️💯
I was so super exited for a hot minute when I first thought that someone made a camera that mimics the field of view and depth of eyes, to take s picture so it would be as close as possible to 1:1 comparisons
A related point: Google has made the reverse image search so convoluted at this point to the point where it is extremely difficult to track the oriign of an image.
Nice review David, but honestly this feature is useless on the M11 if the signature only happens on JPEG files. Leica JPEGS are honestly quite poor and it would be a waste to shoot this camera in anything other than raw. If Fuji had this feature it would be killer, but just doesn't make sense on a Leica.
We have full reviews for the regular M11 and M11 Monochrome! This camera is almost exactly the same as the regular M11 so I didn’t really see a reason to do the same review again.
It pained me to overhear this conversation: “you have such a fancy phone, what phone is it? iPhone 13 (they had an iPhone 11) but the iPhone 15 is out now right? So Apple is gonna slow down my phone so I’m gonna get my dad’s old phone. Is it android? No I think it’s LG. Android is so much better than iPhone: my dad has it so when someone texts him Tokyo drift is his ringtone, you can’t do that on iPhone(yes you can, I have 7 custom ringtones that I switch between) on android you can change your wallpaper(you can do that on iPhone too)” it was so painful to listen to this and while it is true that android has way more customization than iPhone these people had absolutely no idea about anything they were talking about they did not even know what phone they had.
This helps. Great explainer. I would say it is absolutely feasible for every news gathering organization to provide cameras enabled for this or only accept images from cameras that have it. That would cost little, force all the camera, and more importantly cell phone makes, to add this really fast.
the only way to trust a piece of content is to trust the source (or that someone else you trust signed it) it has been like this for a long time and it will always be like this Content credentials is a convenient way to show what exactly was done to the video (only if you trust the source already)
I really like the knowledge of David about Cameras and explaining things in an easy way. Is there any possibility to get a Video from the Studio or Main Channel about how a Super Slow Motion Camera works? Not the usual "filming in 120fps", more like "How does the tech work to enable a camera to capture 1000, 5000 or even 10000 frames per second" There is basically no Video or Blog on this I can find 😅
its crazy that a lot of people can't tell the difference between real images, photoshopped images and ai generated images. the scary thing for me is AI generated images are getting better the with every image created
Leica as always (micro) refining it's M camera range, and David as always goes beyond numbers and specs and deep dive on something new to learn in photography. Then there's me as always waiting for more content like this on The Studio channel 👍UP! as always.
4:43 so my quesrtion is, naturally, is there a way to exploit this where you can "bring in" an AI-generated image to a software such as Adobe, and still assign it content credentials? 5:126:32 This is why I say that if this were grounded in blockchain, I feel like it would solve the problem. If the original source point (e.g. Dall-E) is embedded in the blockchain, then false verifications should go down to zero.
I am curious on how apps like Instagram will use this feature (if they use it) and how will they enable the user to see that information when they see a photo uploaded by a photographer they follow. I am a photographer that uploads photos on a daily basis and features like alt text are buried in the advanced features when posting. Would love it to be more of an upfront feature.
Everything already has different kind of metadata and much of is writable which can be used for privacy reasons. What prevents a company from forcing geolocation to be saved and then it isn't changeable and anyone can see it?
I've been doing my own version of "Content Credentials" since 2017 using the Bitcoin and Ethereum blockchains. My process involved creating an MD5 and later a SHA256 hash of my images in addition to the arbitrary data related to the capture. P.S. I have recently joined the CAI as a contributor and hope to share my experiences in ensuring the provenance of images. Good Times!
When Cameras first came up, Landscape painters were all against it. Then came the impressionists who paint what cannot be photographed. I'm quite optimistic in what new art styles or techniques come out of this A.I revolution. Video didn't kill the Radio Star, Camera didn't kill of painters.
Excellent video. I learned a lot. The title was a bit misleading, though. I thought it would be a camera review, which, to tell you the truth, I am only mildly interested in, as I am never going to buy a camera like that. The actual content was much more worthwhile to me.
A way around the screenshot thing is to have manufacturers sign screenshots as screenshots when they happen. Same with manufacturers of scanners, etc. That way no image starts off with a blank manifest. Otherwise this whole initiative starts off with a glaring and easily exploitable gap in it.
@@YOitsBAyet. Having in built monitoring of what you are screenshotting being processed on an off-device cloud network would be both expensive as well as an overreach of privacy / ripe for exploit
@@GatorAidMedical 1. why would it need to be processed off device? 2. do you know how much processing it takes to create a manifest.json file? 🤣 3. Metadata is metadata, it isn't personally identifiable by nature. I'm confused as to how this could be a privacy concern. This is a win-win for manufacturers with minimal effort and 99.99% of users would never even notice a difference.
Interesting subject. For news and media photos, they would still be edited before upload, which would still make it hard to know how authentic, or what editing was done to that image. Unless, they have/use an editing software that only allows for basic photo editing.
Content credential is underrated. Think about the importance on having content credential on the Nikon z9s that will go on the moon with Artemis mission.
Excellent review! I wonder if AI could even fool this solution, go back to the original and resign metadata to itself from, say, a journalist. Also, this is surely only software based? Or does it require some kind of a chip? If it is only software, can’t manufacturers just incorporate this into the firmware of cameras already in use today? In that sense it could become an industry-standard quicker than by releasing new camera models. Which as a side-effect would cancel content authenticity as an advantage or selling point of the M11-P. For now I applaud Leica and the open-source solution for the initiative.
Great explanation and the idea behind it makes total sense. The problem is that this might backfire if it becomes a widely known standard. The more successful it becomes the more likely it is for bad actors to take aim. And when it gets cracked (and it will) it will be even harder to identify misinformation. I think the only possible way to deal with fakes and AI generated stuff is through education. People need to be aware of it.
No need to crack it. You can literally just sign an AI generated photo. Everything from there on is tracked, but nothing that happened to the image before. Unless cameras automatically sign images at time of creation, this whole system is just based on good will.
Well they do. ... Have you watched the video? lol @@omgawesomeomg But nothong is stopping you from photographing a projection or a print of something that was manipulated. And like I said it will get cracked.
Imagine when ALL data we create and publish will be this well protected!!!! no tiktok thieves, no youtube lame imitation, no "inspirations" anymore, FINALLY a way to trace the ORIGIN of a trend... AND FINALLY a way to get PAID for the huge amount of work we put in creating all type of contents...
What if someone uses an older camera and uploads the jpgs straight out of the camera. Will there be credentials for that? Feels like this idea has so many loopholes.
Man, David is great at camera reviews. Having someone who is passionate about the subject but otherwise spends his days on other tech subjects comes through in his dialogue...he clearly loves making these. Also, this was the best explanation of Content Credentials that I have found yet. Great stuff
Agreed!
100% agree, he also has a great voice and tempo in his speech. They should start a separate camera review channel!
No doubt. Markus…it’s your shop. You already know that putting the spotlight on talent is a critical element necessary in achieving excellence. This kid David might very well be your best resource and extension of your capacity. 🙌
Not only is David really passionate about this stuff, but he explains it REALLY WELL. Great qualities for someone making videos like this. Well done, man.
I have to say that your camera videos are some of my favorites on youtube. They never feel too long and I like the balance of not to much spec reading.
eh. this one was kinda boring and long. I prefer the camera reviews where he talks about how the photos are being taken, the physics etc, then shows some sick shots. this....was a wiki article being read on camera.
can we just take a moment to appreciate how good David's camera reviews are?
It deserves its own dedicated channel. For real.
Can we just acknowledge how old and tired the "can we just take a moment..." comments have become?
is this even a camera review?
@@stevenqirkle this
This is not a camera review at all
I've been subed and watching for about a year now and David's camera videos are literally THE BEST THING that is uploaded from the MKBHD Studio. I would love to see a series where he explains more about cameras. Everything from the basics of photography (exposure triangle) to the technical side like sensors sizes, color sciences and lens options. Also massive credit to the graphics, very well done as always both in quality and story telling.
I absolutely love them too, as good as it gets. except the dust ad fingerprints on the camera in the opening shot just kinda hurt my soul, also the lens was focused on the shotgun mic the whole video... the actual contents of the video, the explanation, writing delivery was perfect. But the studio has built quite the name for itself in production value, and this seems sloppy.
One I really appreciate David bringing light to this and also just great video overall
Two good AI-related videos from David this week, both really interesting and thought provoking. Thank you!
Always love seeing your takes on these, David.
This kinda reminds me of how old developed photos would have a tamp on the back of them with the brand or data of the film
Killer description. I think this is definitely the future for professional photographers especially those in the documentary sector!
David is all hits, no misses around here. Loving his solo videos
David photography channel when?
I'd love to see David's take on a beginner getting into photography or film photography specifically, he has really captivated my attention with this stuff but I wouldn't be sure where to begin!
The David's lessons are always the best. Aside that and how beautiful and divulgative these videos are, we should hope that some method like this takes place, otherwise internet will become a very very dark jungle.
David deserves an Oscar for the clarity and simplicity explanation 🎉🎉
I love the editing and David's presentation! You guys are killing it along with the Waveform podcast.
I’ve been documentary wedding photographer for more than 3yrs now and I was completely unaware of this topic. Thanks for this video.
Great video, David. This is somehow the first time I've come across this channel, but I'll definitely be coming back after this.
Great video, David! Just got mine this week. Sooo good with low light and shadow recovery. I haven't really dealt with the "credentials" thing yet, but it's nice to have.
love davids studio vids so much 👌
it'd be rlly cool if you like a quick photo walk or smth one time
I genuinely have just a passing interest in photography and this corner of tech - but the storytelling and this videos production is so compelling and satisfying I’ve stayed and learnt something - thanks
Best camera reviewer on the planet. Please do reviews for more cameras and lenses across all brands!
I don’t really care about the camera but knew David would deliver a worthwhile video.
I love this new videos with a touch of MKBH and the personality of each guy of The Studio, love it 😎👍
It would be cool if this could be enabled on smart phone photos as well.
Yeah i think we're not far from it. You already have cryptographic chips on every smartphone since most of your data on phone is encrypted by default so a software update could bring it quite easily. And in my opinion that would be the point of critical mass that he has talked about.
Truepic is an example of an SDK that adds CAI capabilities to any "photo" app on Android and IOS. So if it caught on even apps like Filmic Pro could easily link against them to gain said capabilities. So, even if the phone manufacturers didn't do it in the stock app there are ways for third parties to integrate it if they wanted. The keys could be stored in the enclaves that are already provided by many manufacturers via SDKs.
This makes me genuine happy. As a photographer who wants to do this as an art form I hated Ai and the upcoming tools that are in this world right now. But Ai works so well when working for clients. This tool just gives me a real split in my work and others will know what is modified and what not. So the real art can and will stay art, but my client work can be mixed with Ai *sigh of relief*
Thank you so much David! Appreciate the simple and clear explanation and use case for this. I look forward to your contributions to this channel. I'm hoping Content Credentials does gain traction and is implemented more widely.
David is becoming one of my favorite youtubers... excellent video.
Great explanation, people need to understand that this is very important. The screenshot thing could be avoided with digital watermarks. Hope this will get lots of attention in the future. Thanks for doing this video!
Digital watermarks can be edited out with generative fill. A watermark would need to be overlayed over a large portion of the photo or video. But that would be annoying and destroy a lot pieces.
David is amazing. Hands down my favorite host
David Really love your videos. I have had this exact experience where my work was used although I’m not famous it still makes me feel some type of way. Thanks so much for sharing.Always enjoy your work and for keeping it real.✌️💯
David needs to make more camera videos. I used to have no interest in them, but now I love cameras
A strong david week, thx for the informations. In 2 years or so i think this will be a big topic. Glad to see how it starts!
I was so super exited for a hot minute when I first thought that someone made a camera that mimics the field of view and depth of eyes, to take s picture so it would be as close as possible to 1:1 comparisons
A related point: Google has made the reverse image search so convoluted at this point to the point where it is extremely difficult to track the oriign of an image.
“What even is a photo?” has overtaken my brain thanks to you, haha! So glad to see it getting it’s time in the spotlight
Nice review David, but honestly this feature is useless on the M11 if the signature only happens on JPEG files. Leica JPEGS are honestly quite poor and it would be a waste to shoot this camera in anything other than raw. If Fuji had this feature it would be killer, but just doesn't make sense on a Leica.
Hey David, thanks for sharing this info, I was not aware of this particular technology and now I am thanks to you =)
Born to educate. Well done David.
This was a very different video than i thought, im glad i clocked? Great job Team!
Love the video, David! I hope you make an actual review for that camera in the near future!
We have full reviews for the regular M11 and M11 Monochrome! This camera is almost exactly the same as the regular M11 so I didn’t really see a reason to do the same review again.
@@TheStudio that’s fair! Thanks for the reply!
David drives me crazy on WVFRM but I love his camera videos. Really good.
Love these videos ❤
It pained me to overhear this conversation: “you have such a fancy phone, what phone is it? iPhone 13 (they had an iPhone 11) but the iPhone 15 is out now right? So Apple is gonna slow down my phone so I’m gonna get my dad’s old phone. Is it android? No I think it’s LG. Android is so much better than iPhone: my dad has it so when someone texts him Tokyo drift is his ringtone, you can’t do that on iPhone(yes you can, I have 7 custom ringtones that I switch between) on android you can change your wallpaper(you can do that on iPhone too)” it was so painful to listen to this and while it is true that android has way more customization than iPhone these people had absolutely no idea about anything they were talking about they did not even know what phone they had.
I love david videos
Great Video, David! Thanks for spreading the knowledge on this area of photography📚
Great video David! Lets hope this becomes a standard in every camera going forward. Is there any news about how phone cameras would handle this?
This helps. Great explainer. I would say it is absolutely feasible for every news gathering organization to provide cameras enabled for this or only accept images from cameras that have it. That would cost little, force all the camera, and more importantly cell phone makes, to add this really fast.
im a simple man i see david video i like it, then watch.
Thought this was going to be a rehash of known info. Surprised with new info. Great video.
Uh. I guess I thought I would get a camera review. Moving on now
Great review, I want this camera bad
the only way to trust a piece of content is to trust the source (or that someone else you trust signed it)
it has been like this for a long time and it will always be like this
Content credentials is a convenient way to show what exactly was done to the video (only if you trust the source already)
What we need (also) is an app where people could share their photos for people to like, see and admire.
I expected a camera review, what I got is a hundred times better.
I've been following David 's content for a while, and he just keeps getting better
Dave is a champ. Great video!
Pretty neat idea! I hope it sticks around...
I thought MKBHD was the voiceover at first 🤣
Same! I almost thought this was one of those AI voice-overs. Most likely just good audio mixing.
I agree@@pat.huertas e ..or we can say
I really like the knowledge of David about Cameras and explaining things in an easy way.
Is there any possibility to get a Video from the Studio or Main Channel about how a Super Slow Motion Camera works? Not the usual "filming in 120fps", more like "How does the tech work to enable a camera to capture 1000, 5000 or even 10000 frames per second"
There is basically no Video or Blog on this I can find 😅
I really loved this video, The explanation was boom💥💯💯. Although I wonder how a camera could be that expensive🙀🙀
its crazy that a lot of people can't tell the difference between real images, photoshopped images and ai generated images. the scary thing for me is AI generated images are getting better the with every image created
I love the background of this video
Great presentation well done David.
Love this! It's like beefed up EXIF data!
Leica as always (micro) refining it's M camera range, and David as always goes beyond numbers and specs and deep dive on something new to learn in photography. Then there's me as always waiting for more content like this on The Studio channel 👍UP! as always.
100th video and it's by David on photography🤩
4:43 so my quesrtion is, naturally, is there a way to exploit this where you can "bring in" an AI-generated image to a software such as Adobe, and still assign it content credentials? 5:12 6:32 This is why I say that if this were grounded in blockchain, I feel like it would solve the problem. If the original source point (e.g. Dall-E) is embedded in the blockchain, then false verifications should go down to zero.
Want such more videos from David.
I am curious on how apps like Instagram will use this feature (if they use it) and how will they enable the user to see that information when they see a photo uploaded by a photographer they follow. I am a photographer that uploads photos on a daily basis and features like alt text are buried in the advanced features when posting. Would love it to be more of an upfront feature.
I love David videos
Everything already has different kind of metadata and much of is writable which can be used for privacy reasons. What prevents a company from forcing geolocation to be saved and then it isn't changeable and anyone can see it?
I think this is great tech! Thanks for sharing
David, please start a channel, we wanna learn about the camera stuff this way always...
I've been doing my own version of "Content Credentials" since 2017 using the Bitcoin and Ethereum blockchains. My process involved creating an MD5 and later a SHA256 hash of my images in addition to the arbitrary data related to the capture. P.S. I have recently joined the CAI as a contributor and hope to share my experiences in ensuring the provenance of images. Good Times!
When Cameras first came up, Landscape painters were all against it. Then came the impressionists who paint what cannot be photographed. I'm quite optimistic in what new art styles or techniques come out of this A.I revolution. Video didn't kill the Radio Star, Camera didn't kill of painters.
Great informative video. I'm not a photographer but this idea will hopefully take off.
What an amazing camera. Top class.
More Leica videos please, David!
Excellent video. I learned a lot. The title was a bit misleading, though. I thought it would be a camera review, which, to tell you the truth, I am only mildly interested in, as I am never going to buy a camera like that. The actual content was much more worthwhile to me.
Another David video life is good. .
Phenomenal video!!
A way around the screenshot thing is to have manufacturers sign screenshots as screenshots when they happen. Same with manufacturers of scanners, etc. That way no image starts off with a blank manifest. Otherwise this whole initiative starts off with a glaring and easily exploitable gap in it.
EXACTLY!
that sounds like a nightmare. I already can't screenshot netflix to share memes with my friends.
@@GatorAidMedical no ones saying you can't do something
@@YOitsBAyet. Having in built monitoring of what you are screenshotting being processed on an off-device cloud network would be both expensive as well as an overreach of privacy / ripe for exploit
@@GatorAidMedical
1. why would it need to be processed off device?
2. do you know how much processing it takes to create a manifest.json file? 🤣
3. Metadata is metadata, it isn't personally identifiable by nature. I'm confused as to how this could be a privacy concern.
This is a win-win for manufacturers with minimal effort and 99.99% of users would never even notice a difference.
Imagine David is your professor to some complex subject in your academics.
this is genius if it works! would help bring more accountability to news organizations.
The opening shot of WALL-E was great
good informative video...well done👏👏👏
Interesting subject. For news and media photos, they would still be edited before upload, which would still make it hard to know how authentic, or what editing was done to that image. Unless, they have/use an editing software that only allows for basic photo editing.
Love it. No more fake news
Very cool video. And informative. Dope.
Does David have a personal ch? If not he should. Well done sir.
Content credential is underrated. Think about the importance on having content credential on the Nikon z9s that will go on the moon with Artemis mission.
A screenshot away from breaking the whole system
Excellent review! I wonder if AI could even fool this solution, go back to the original and resign metadata to itself from, say, a journalist. Also, this is surely only software based? Or does it require some kind of a chip? If it is only software, can’t manufacturers just incorporate this into the firmware of cameras already in use today? In that sense it could become an industry-standard quicker than by releasing new camera models. Which as a side-effect would cancel content authenticity as an advantage or selling point of the M11-P. For now I applaud Leica and the open-source solution for the initiative.
well done video dude
Great explanation and the idea behind it makes total sense. The problem is that this might backfire if it becomes a widely known standard. The more successful it becomes the more likely it is for bad actors to take aim. And when it gets cracked (and it will) it will be even harder to identify misinformation. I think the only possible way to deal with fakes and AI generated stuff is through education. People need to be aware of it.
No need to crack it. You can literally just sign an AI generated photo. Everything from there on is tracked, but nothing that happened to the image before. Unless cameras automatically sign images at time of creation, this whole system is just based on good will.
Well they do. ... Have you watched the video? lol @@omgawesomeomg
But nothong is stopping you from photographing a projection or a print of something that was manipulated. And like I said it will get cracked.
Imagine when ALL data we create and publish will be this well protected!!!! no tiktok thieves, no youtube lame imitation, no "inspirations" anymore, FINALLY a way to trace the ORIGIN of a trend... AND FINALLY a way to get PAID for the huge amount of work we put in creating all type of contents...
really, really good video! :)
What if someone uses an older camera and uploads the jpgs straight out of the camera. Will there be credentials for that? Feels like this idea has so many loopholes.
David took a picture with the Leica M11-P on 06/21/2018???? HOW!!!
This concept could be further applied to any user generated content to reduce spam on social media