I grew being taught by my father that I have to work fast and work hard. then I will get a better raise and praise. Later in life I learned my co workers got paid more than me plus they slack off expecting me to take care of their work when I got there. Lesson learned.
@@josepholague925 Same here. I was like that. I've worked my ass off for every job. This does nothing. Like he said, it shows that you have little self respect. Back off, take it easy. Go 20% about 80% of the time.
More specific: use your workplace to upgrade yourself. if they ask you to do something that has no benefit for your skill improvement you better leave them.
I have a saying. "The reward for work is more work." That is literally how the corporate world works. They don't necessarily pay you more, but they'll definitely give you more work.
That's why I always time my task to finish roughly at the same time as everyone else. Before I'd get things done efficiently and just be given more work or told to help other people out for no more compensation
This isn’t just for devs, this is advice for all working people. Don’t make it easy for them to exploit you. Labor without wages has a name and it’s called slavery.
@@tonyg9921 you missed the point. People who work late for no money are CHOOSING to do so, and their selfishness and cowardice is making work worse for everyone
@@drewmandan At my previous job, the company experienced a month of heavy work load so they asked all the employees to volunteer to do overtime... and then managers went around and warned everyone they'd have to pick volunteers if too few employees volunteered... which kinda destroys the definition of the word. I now like to refer to it as "mandatory volunteering unless you want your coworkers to resent you".
My job has a zero tolerance policy for working after hours, which I’m so thankful for. If we don’t finish work in the day, it’s ok, and we can do it the next day.
I was that guy. Got my first good job and wanted to work hard. Quickly I realized for working hard my reward was only extra work with zero compensation. Society always tell you “work hard and you will go places” but it’s not true at all.
Exactly! I just quit my job for another job that pays less money. I was being taken for granted because I wore many hats and didn’t get compensated. My company was a startup! And he’s spot on about startups
True! I know lots of people who work crazy long hours and their health is shot. They are either overweight or stressed out which can lead to health issues.
Made that mistake, recovering from it now. Don't do it folks, nothing is worth it can you can't put something important on a backburner and think you can come back to it later without it being worse off.
If you mean health generally, good or bad, sure, it's with you, but probably only as long as you are alive. Maybe someday we'll live forever. In which case, you definitely shouldn't sacrifice health.
Im not even in programming, but this shit hit me hard. This guy literally described me. I'm that asshole who works like mad, gets paid dirt money, and makes everyone else look bad.
@@mr.giraffe7076 I would never programm for a living but this channel has so much good advice in general so... Stay compassionate you damn nihilist! :D
I think the worst thing is those people who jump up and volunteer to work extra hours for free, and make you look bad for not doing the same. If you want my time, you have to pay for it. I'm not a charity for your business!
yep. A while ago, I was an IT field-instllation-Microsoft-Type-Guy. We were fitting out a new School with servers, desktops,laptops etc.... the project was quite quickly behind, so whilst being away from home mon-fri, I was asked if I could stay a couple of weekends to catch the project up......yeah sure, but I'll warn you my weekends are worth ALOT to me, especially when I spent 4-5evenings a week in a 'holiday Inn'......so the project manager, was like, yeah, cool, how much......I already knew my answer was £350 per day, (I was salaried) the pm was genuinely insulted....and laughed.....as If I was kidding!!!! .... Yeah, ok, the project cant afford that.... unlucky, then I go home this afternoon to see my wife and my dog, see you monday.......The project was around £1million in kit, and considering Microsoft provide all School licenses sdirt cheap/free, alot of it was maybe 300-400k for kit, the rest on labour...I was not wrong.
@@ywarlock charge them a rate where you don't care... if they say yes then you get a lot of money, if they say no then you get your weekend... make it a win-win for you and not the company
This is always my response (dropped out and went back to high school) to every manager that hires me. "You don't pay me shit. Don't expect me to work for shit."
@Mister Guy You are very naive. You can work as a software developer for minimum wage. It's not about the type of work. It's about the company. I worked at an insurance company as a fullstack developer for 6680$/year. Of course, it was in Europe. So the statement, "Minimum wage, minimum effort" is true. If you want people to value you more, value yourself more. Make people belive you are valuable more than they think. You gotta be greedy about building your reputation. That's it.
His advice is true not only for the workplace, but for every human relationship! Set your boundaries / respect level early into the relationship and don't let anyone cross them!
I remember my first software engineering job in 1992. I worked until i passed out. I was so proud of myself of that job and what i was doing. I got laid off one year later.
I went through that in the late 1990s. I worked by myself to burnout, and then we got bought out and I was laid off eventually. I wasn't aware about the frequency of acquistions and then they just layoff.
IBM or EDS by chance? I started work for EDS about that time, did the SED program came back and they started their RIFs. I lived in fear, it was going to be me for years.
There is a joke doing the rounds - it goes like this: Always give 100% a work, 10% on Monday, 19% on Tuesday, 38% on Wednesday, 28% on thursday and 5% on friday. I used to think it was funny. After 28 years working in IT I actually think it's good advice and provides a nice home/work life balance.
I learned this the hard way. For 4 years I worked my ass off on my first job. They sweet-talked me and said I was an idol to the company and offered me several raises. However, the moment I wanted to work regular 40 hours like everyone else, I'd get constantly called into review meetings asking "If I was okay, I seem unmotivated". I left that shitty place, got a new job earning double the salary, and working less. So yes, do minimal work necessary to keep everyone happy. Best advice ever man. Great content and UA-cam channel. You've got a new subscriber. P.S. You don't have an annoying voice lol.
The only time you should work "your ass off" is when you are working for yourself because let's face it when you are working for a boss you are probably being underpaid and overworked. Even if you are getting $200 000 a year, that means the boss is making $2 000 000 a year from your work.
I don’t understand this logic. You can work hard and learn a bunch of stuff that will translate to another job if something happens, or you can do the bare minimum and have nothing to show for it. The developers that worked in big companies and are crying on LinkedIn for a job because they can’t find a job probably didn’t work very hard.
my bosses tried to push extra hours. they even refused to give me a laptop for over 2 years so i wouldn't be able to remote work. i saw all the new hires in the department get laptops at start. i would only work the 40h. if i had an appointment in between, i would work a little extra hard but still within the hours. and then we had summer hours where we would leave the office at noon on fridays. the boomers were so irritated by it, they would try and pile work so people have to stay late. but i wouldn't play ball. i would tell my boss bye see you on monday. eventually they gave up trying to change.
Phantom Warrior I don’t understand. If there was already a rule in place to close down at noon, why were boomers trying to pile work? Did they not respect the company’s decision?
It's not like Joshua is ahead of it's time. He lived, like many of us, many life changing experiences and learnt about the reality of the corporate world. He makes a difference by being open AND public about it. He's risking a lot. Much respect my friend, lots have seen it and lived it, few are public about it.
Holy shit, this is so real. Years later, I would go around the office and tell younger devs to go home and live life. When I burned out after four years, my supervisor had no sympathy.
They forced me out after burning out, they went bust the next month, fuck em, unfortunately they kept going, because they had money, because we were being paid a shittance.
Wish i learnt this at a younger age. I had a severe burnout at 57 after 25 years in a high pressure job. Nearly took my life. Took 2 years off and now work part time (3 days pw) driving Cars on and off Ships. Love it. Btw this young Man is on point.
I burn out constantly, about every 4 to 6 months because the deadlines are unrealistic and I'm expected to do whatever it takes to meet them. I love programming but I find the IT industry to be extremely toxic with suffocating deadlines and clients who are always unhappy with the product. You can work 16 hour days but its still not good enough... I advise most young people who want to be programmers to go into another field unless they are really passionate about programming.
@@BillClinton228 I'm passionate about programming, yes. But... I do feel a bit burnt out right now. I keep feeling pressured to get Jira cards done in 2 weeks even when some bugs come up.
I work 4 hours per day, monday to friday. During those 4 hours my phone is in plane mode so my focus goes entirely to my job. I stand up every 25 minutes to rest my eyes for 1 minute, and every hour I stretch. Only when some client issues arise I work more. It has been a great balance and always finish my work in time without burnout.
"I've always subscribed to the idea that if you really want to impress your boss, you go in there and you do mediocre work, half-heartedly." -Jim Halpert
My personal philosophy is that if you work too hard you will grow to hate what you are working on. Take the gym for example, most newbies go in and completely shred only to stop going after a week. Its better to take it easy at the beginning and build up as you go. If you dont feel it then workout easy and the next day you will feel better about it. This works well for personal projects but for a job its more complicated and I think you have summed that up nicely.
Story of my life. One thing to keep in mind: working hard does not mean working well. You just become tired and depressed if you push it to the limit, and then you try harder and do less. It's like running a marathon, you need to keep a steady pace.
This is so real. I was laid off for a year and a half and got a job and was so excited I got a job and they had tons of ot. I was working 80-100 hours a week because I wanted to work hard and get ot and also learned every thing and became the best at their job. Never got promoted for five years applying to many manager jobs while dumb people who don't do their job got promoted. If you make to much money for the company they will try to keep you at your position forever. Great advice Josh
Not only that, but you proved to be a very dependable person at the position you were at. They realized hiring someone else for that promotion is better than giving it to you and having to hire someone to cover your roles since you provided so much. Very common amongst the work force and how promotions go.
Sometimes you get "lucky" and get a manager/project lead that knows all this and you can be open about expectations and workload with him/her. There are huge skill differences in managers too.
When I worked as a line cook, I'd hustle hard every day. Slow season came around, and one day I ran out of work to do. So I told my chef..... His response: "Never say that again! You only know how to work fast, but now you need to work slow."
Sounds like me at work. Coworkers(not management) are like “man you’re so slow I can do that way faster” and I’m like no I work just as fast as I need to for the task
Why this channel is so underrated: comparing to other dev YT channels where they talk about unrealistic things and Josh come in here and gives actual practical advices no BS straight to the point.
This month must have been the greatest plot twist in my life/career. I began with the mindset of getting the best job and just make money for a living to having the mindset of getting a job where I can learn more things and then actually progress in my career as an individual, not just with a company. Thank you Josh! much love.
I totally agree with this. I remember several years ago, I negotiated two weeks vacation in August, it was October at the time. I got the salary and the two weeks vacation in writing. I worked hard, then 9 months rolled by. In July, I reminded my manager that I was taking two weeks vacation in August.They started to try to stop me from going on vacation and threatened to fire me. I went on vacation anyway. The day I came back from vacation our manager resigned and three members of my sales team resigned. I left a month later. I now run my own business. I will never rely on a corporate job again.
I worked in the federal government if you complete your work you can pretty much do whatever you want because the boss does not want to find extra work because that will give him extra work on finding extra work. I want to go back to federal service since I finished university and do my 15 years and retire.
@@JoshuaFluke1 yea it was. Currently I manage a hotel overnight to do online courses. I pretty much get paid to do nothing and I have trained no one to do my job except my shitty part timer that does not really do it well but shes good to cover days off.
@@JoshuaFluke1 I will get a Federal job again so I can do my thing. After a few years its near impossible to fire you so the easiest way is to promote you due to rules and must transfer depts.
This guy is very honest. That exactly what I was doing in my first job, and I remember that I was really drained at the end of every day. Now, in my second job, I not giving 100% because they aren't paying the appropriate amount, and when I press to 40-50% the upper management feels like Wow you're doing great !
Bottom line every job you ever get is about expectations. A buddy at my first job ever taught me that when I asked him how he was able to come in late almost everyday and not get fired.
Really really needed to hear this. Thank you Joshua. I experienced burnout from putting 100% for my first job (I felt extremely guilty because they hired me knowing that it’s my first job like you said and I didn’t even have the 2 years of experience that they put on the job posting and yet they gave me a chance). Right now I realized I am doing so much more than my fellow coworkers who have the same position as me, yet I’m getting paid the same or even less than some people. My company also has the tendency to guilt trip the employees into over time and without pay and I didn’t notice it as a wild red flag because I was just so happy to get a job after graduation. Really wish I had watched this video a little sooner! For all of you new employees out there, Joshua is so right. Do not put in 100%!! A lot of employers will just take advantage of you that way!!
I had a job where a person would do 3 hours overtime everyday and then complain about having to work so hard. After working there long enough I saw it was because management gave him harder projects because they knew he would sacrifice his livelihood to finish what was ever put in front of him. Meanwhile, people like me, who did the bare minimum, wouldn't do more when the boss gave us more. The boss would actually help us because he knew the extra workload wasn't going to get done otherwise. The guy I just described understood this but, after working himself to the bone for years, he was convinced if he started doing less he'd be fired. It was tragic to watch him running around frustrated, tired, and angry everyday. His reward? Earning about 25 cents more per hour.
Ya he is worried that he will be fired for poor performance. Curious though, aren’t you worrried that you will be fired for doing the bare minimum or get less performance bonus?
@@junc2191 I wasn't worried about getting fired because it was a bad, manual labor job with high turnover. Management could find new people easily, but most wouldn't stay very long like all us regulars. They knew it and we knew it. Also, remember an extra 25 cents per hour isn't much of a performance "bonus," which is why most of us weren't motivated to go above and beyond for such a company.
At least at Walmart(Night Shift) Managers would have to stay and do whatever we didn't finish so as long as you didn't let them trick you into staying over they would be the ones to get screwed if they didn't give you enough man power to finish (Sometimes the task would show 18 hours which means it should be like 2-3 ppl doing it and they'd expect 1 person to do 18 hours worth of work in 8)
@junc2191 Performance bonus isn't enough to matter if they even give one and minimum wage jobs are a dime a dozen so if they fire you just easily get another one Walmart is a very good example (I used to stock Frozen/Dairy overnight and you would have to sign on/off for "tasks" basically the system would calculate roughly how long your stuff would take to be fully complete and I kid not you not there would be nights where the workload would be rated to take 20+ hours and the manager is essentially expecting you to do 20+ hours worth of work in 8 (They used to write ppl up for it too until ppl started pointing out the task times and complaining and corporate made the rule that you couldn't be wrote up for performance if the task time was more than 8 hours(16 for 2 ppl)(24 for 3 etc)
Health and well-being is everything FIRST. If you're dead or very sick, you cannot work. It is that simple. You can/will be replaced at the job. Eventually ppl will move on.
The first time I learnt this the hard way was in my local university where I took CS. This was during the start of the pandemic where institutions started to transition towards online learning. During that semester there were a lot of group work and final projects. Unluckily most of my assigned group mates on the classes I took flaked, leaving me to do all the projects alone. I had to work and study on average 19 hours a day for almost 4 months straight. At the end of it all I had to be hospitalized for overexerting myself. I had reported to the teaching assistants about this matter. Despite sparing no effort, they gave me a failing grade on one of my classes. There should be no way I failed after calculating my scores according to the syllabi. So, still in bed I protested to the teaching staff by phone. Gave proof that I did all my assignments. They told me to contact the administration. But the admins said there was nothing they could do about it because it was already past the deadline for scoring. Bullshit! How can the admins in charge of the database themselves not fix errors just because of a stupid rule! Yet they dare have the audacity to call themselves a "wOrlD cLaSS UniVeRsITy" that preaches honesty, truth and fairness! Their ranking isn't even above the 30th percentile of universities worldwide! Because I was marked as failing that class, I became ineligible to graduate with honors, all thanks to their incompetence. I swore never again to sacrifice my health for anything. It's not worth it. Just like companies, universities care about profit, and the more despicable ones like mine will do all they can to keep students in for longer.
In the startup I work at, I'm literally the only one who works their full 8 hours and thats it. They've been so used to working more than 8-9-10 hours a day that IM the one who feels bad for leaving at 5 or 510 and being the only one getting ready to leave =/
Yeah don’t feel bad. you’re working the amount of hours the job requires you to be there, and being paid for it. If other people want to waste their time do somthing that isnt even job and not getting paid then thats on them. if any manger brings up shit with you say that you work 10 hours a day if your salary is updated to 10 hour schedule. Nothing in life is free so start applying that to yourself because your time is extremely valuable.
This is so needed! I was straight out of college and landed a job in consulting. Gave it my all then I ended up burnt out. Thank you for speaking the truth!
fresh out of college engineer here. currently in a production engineering "fast paced, go getter, self motivated" environment and im quickly realizing that a lot of this video is true.
Very very good advise! My experience from enterprise IT job: every year in order to get a raise you have to exceed expectations and often even if you do, you still don't get a raise, they say you performed average... Aaand once you raised your own bar, next year you have to work even harder and still you won't get promoted. So basiclly you're setting a trap for yourself xD Don't do that! I learned it the hard way. Be average, change job every 2 years to get 20-30% raise.
I've been trying to inform coworkers of this, but it's hard when they are willing to do the work to make themselves look better, so being the black sheep just makes you replaceable.
It's really funny about the give you extra work bit, that's all my old works did. When I eventually told them to give me a raise they attempted to denegrade the work I did and didn't give me a raise. I immediately matched my co-workers output. Got asked what was wrong soon after. The nerve of management
@diongwi I was discussing the origin with you, not the prevalence. However keep this in mind: you're far more likely to hear bad things than good. It's pretty hard to get people positively raving, but not hard to get people complaining.
Tbh, I don't mind getting extra work. I'd rather have something to do instead of nothing to do. I want my 40 hours to fly by because I stuff to do; I don't want to be struggling to stay awake while watching the clock because my queue is empty.
More sage advice.Whatever is said, however it may appear, they ain't gonna buy the cow when they're getting the milk for free.Corporate or private,- all the same.
I can so relate to this. I worked so hard in the beginning that I had lot of back problems and sleepless nights. I just snapped and from one day started drawing my boundaries. Initially I was called me lot of time to office so that manager can get angry with me. i just told them to fire me if they think I am not doing the job. They didn't because I was doing a lot more in 8 hours than my peers who were working sleepless nights and going for office team building nonsense. I hope young people should value themselves more.
This was a pretty crucial concept that i missed. I was one of the top performers at my last job, got run down and burnt out, still out performed most people but got told i have dropped in performance and need to go back to how i was before.. because they expected that as a baseline
This is the reason why I couldn't last more than 4 months in any job... Trying to please everyone, do everything now and today. After few months I start looking for a way out and by the time I leave I'm burnt to the ground... Feel like I don't know better, it's either 0 or a 100. Happy birthday man :)
Man you've for sure magic powers. First, you had talked about your dev history in corporations (pretty similar to mine) until started to talk about failure and i was about to drop a tear remembering failures everytime trying so hard, and to put the cherry in the cake, this video. Love your channel, thanks for all your content, it's very valuable and i appreciate this kind of videos, this gives me no motivation, moreover something to think and that's cool 'cause motivation is like having a ball (it works but only once a time) but thoughts stay a long time with us. Keep the good work! and ty again
This is gold. Leaving at the end of your work day, and having time to do your own thing outside of work are so important in any industry. It's good to see videos that don't suck up to the corporate bosses. I'd add, as I often do, that an historically effective way to improve things at work, as well as standing up for yourself, is to recognise your shared position of being exploited with your colleagues by the company; from there, you organise together to improve terms and conditions, pay etc, in other words you unionise your work place. It's self defence at work, collectively, against the corporate bureaucracy.
THIS !!! I'M OVERWORKED IN MY NEW JOB. OVERTIMED. I TRY TO SHOW THAT I'M WORTH IT. JUST BECAUSE I GOT THIS JOB DURING PANDEMIC. ALSO MY "MANAGERS" DON'T EVEN RESPECT ME. I REALLY SHOULD RESPECT MYSELF & MY TIME AND THEY SURE TF SHOULD TOO.
I need to follow this advice. I tortured this for years while working in places, i threw everything. I was afraid getting of in trouble and not meeting expectations, i was afraid i wouldnt be loved at some level. I almost cant work hard anymore because the anxiety it causes me is like someones holding a knife to my eye.
Ideal work day: 7 hours self improvement, 1 hour lunch. "Pretty sure he's working hard" - mgmt Average work day: 5 hours self improvement, 2 hours laid back work, 1 hour lunch. "Wow what a productive lad" - mgmt Oh no we need this project done in 2 days!11: 3 hours relaxing, 4 hours working, 1 hour lunch. "This guy is really coming through for us" - mgmt
I am curious! Do you self improve by searching and reading on the Internet on what ever is of your interest at that moment? For me best form is thought audio and video, but probably you dont watch something at the workplace.
Absolute gold advise never bend over for any company always respect yourself and time and if they don't then look for another job that will respect your time.
The last job I had required mandatory overtime, even if you didn't have anything to do. I hated it, especially when the bosses could skip out on Saturdays but require us to work. I learned quickly to not rush and take my time with things. What really killed me is when I would take my time, I would constantly get in trouble for no reason. Even my coworkers asked why I had a target on my back.
I did this in a digital marketing job i've just been let go from. Went in at 100% knowing I shouldn't, but i was excited to start the new role. Impressed them for 6 months then had to take my foot off the gas as I was burning out, and a baby was coming / lost a family pet and member. 3 months later, yearly review, and it was essentially "where did all that enthusiasm go" . Picked it back up, only to be let go this November for '"performance issues", even after I let them know they gave me no goals and targets to aim towards. You're right to say only give them what they need. I won't be making this mistake again.
I've fallen into this trap when I first started. It took me a few months (maybe half a year) and quite a few sprints until I took a deep breath and recognized it doesn't matter how much I finish for the sprint review. Noone realy cares how hard you tried to fix that bug last second before the sprint review. It was weighting hard on my relationships and on my nerves/psyche but completely unnecessary. Noone actually expected that extra effort or realy appreciated it. My medium effort was still better than the effort of some of my colleagues so why care... So basicaly, your words are true.
This is good advice. I make hiring decisions and I agree 100%. I hire people (in an industry where 20 hour days are a reality) for the hours I need them based on potential. The expectations are stated in the beginning and a minimum is the baseline, if you work more, you get more money or work less later. The one thing I disagree with is that this isn’t about a playbook or an ethical issue. You hit the nail on the head, this is life. People are paid for their time, that’s the exchange. If you lie about working 12 hours, then it’s wrong, but if you honestly work 8 or 6 or 4 and are honest, then it’s up to me to tell you what the expectations are (clearly) and why you are or aren’t meeting them. It’s terrible that a lot of businesses see employees as fungible and are willing to burn them out, but I’d rather get 8 hours a day of good consistent work for 10 years, than 1 year of unsustainable effort that results in a burnout who quits.
Man I wish I would have seen this when it came out. I pushed out a massive project that crunched from 2 years to 3 months in early 2019 and I burned myself out.
I needed this right now. Ive been working way longer hours, now that I'm working from home. Less time on my personal self improvement. I don't get paid lots at all, or paid for overtime. I need to respect my time more.
Wow...this video hit home for me. After months of applying to countless jobs after university and internships I finally landed a job in my career of choice. It was a great paying position, but on contract. I got this after 6 months of being unemployed, and being unemployed that long really knocked the self confidence outta me so I never thought I deserved the job (thus starting the toxic cycle of proving to myself and the company that I deserved this job and having imposter syndrome). I would come in early, stay late, offered to take on projects people didn't want to do, pushed myself mentally and brought work home just to keep up with it. I got so fed up and burnt out after 1 year and asked for less projects and to extend some deadlines because I felt like I was always drowning in work, to which management refused since no one else was willing to take the projects back. Well my work suffered and they ended my contract early while extending others. All in all I wish I hadn't tried so hard to show them I deserved the job because it just bit me in the ass and was my downfall lol. Better to take the advice in this video and just put in 20% so you don't burn yourself to the ground.
You're completely right. Probably the worst situation you can put yourself into is when you work with family, especially parents. The guilt trip is huge. Just avoid it at all costs.
I had jobs where months after I was working there they would try and get more out of me by saying "Well in the interview I saw your potential and you convinced me you were the one I thought you were the person to step up I'm disapointed". Then I would feel guilty and work extra hours projects etc.. What a bunch of bs..
I completely agree with that 'baseline expectation' thing being crucial in the beginning. It's something I wish I had been taught earlier - but I'm glad I did learn it at the first job and not at a later time in life. Very relevant content. Pacing yourself is important, to avoid burnouts & self-care... Life is not just about work as you frequently state & I completely agree. Some people completely build their lives around their careers & if that makes them happy then go for it, but I agree that a balanced & a more varied life is much more fulfilling...
I completely agree with you. I've had a team leader that had 2 kids and every day stay in the office for 2, 3 and sometimes more hours. That guy tried several times to prevent me from leaving the office on time, neglecting the fact that everyone in the office knew that I go to work half hour earlier and leave just in time. The things escalated and I told him straight - You know, I arrived to this company as former freelancer. I've got this job to know that I'm on work from 9 do 6, if you want it otherwise - I'll give you my rates which we both know that you won't like (my rate back then was about 4 times higher compared to my salary).
"Keep it backwards, maybe just enough to keep them happy, if not a little bit more, because that's how your impress them" Not in the industry yet but can i wish i did this in other areas with other people at points.
I am a Private Bank Data analyst. I just have to say that this guy is so right. Everything he says is reality out there. Value yourselves and enjoy your personal time way way more than your work time
I have been running for 20 damn years, I'm burned out and done with corporate America, they will always take advantage of you and use you up until your dead. I know a couple people that have had heart attacks on the toilet at work. We had a guy that died in the parking lot at work. Not how I want to go out.
This is way too accurate lol. But here's the one story of one time where it wasn't boy do i miss this place. Every year in November they put together a burn down list of every thing that needed to be done by the end of the year. When we as a company finished the list we were all off for the year. The best part was this was all paid and didn't effect our vacation time at all. I'll never forget the year we finished everything 2 days before thanksgiving! That was awesome. More companies should do that!
This is exactly why you never ever show what you are truly capable of as a worker. If you use 100% effort right off the bat, the 100% effort is what they would expect from you all the time. While if you use 70~80%, they would simply expect the 70~80% from you. And occasionally you can simply use somewhere like 80~90% efforts just to show them you have improvement space so that they would keep you around.
You speak my language throughout your videos. I'm in a pinch of life with not a great job and looking to improve, find my passions (lol i used to be a career freak in high school and college - so passions NOW means something i genuinely value, not something to sound impressive and less cringe), etc. and the algorithm blessed me with your content. So lucky to have found you! Subscribed!
You can grind. But do it FOR YOU. If you are going to put in 12 hours, be damn sure it benefits your mission.
Exactly, the workplace is a marathon NOT a sprint.
I grew being taught by my father that I have to work fast and work hard. then I will get a better raise and praise. Later in life I learned my co workers got paid more than me plus they slack off expecting me to take care of their work when I got there. Lesson learned.
@@josepholague925 Same here. I was like that. I've worked my ass off for every job. This does nothing. Like he said, it shows that you have little self respect. Back off, take it easy. Go 20% about 80% of the time.
So just work enough to not get fired like Office Space.
More specific: use your workplace to upgrade yourself. if they ask you to do something that has no benefit for your skill improvement you better leave them.
''Givers have to set limits because takers never do.'''
I like that. It makes sense.
Now consider how democracy works.
Aline is my wife from another life.😍
PREACH!
That should be on a T-shirt.
This is so damn true!
I have a saying. "The reward for work is more work." That is literally how the corporate world works. They don't necessarily pay you more, but they'll definitely give you more work.
Yp - get as much as they can from you ….
That's why I always time my task to finish roughly at the same time as everyone else. Before I'd get things done efficiently and just be given more work or told to help other people out for no more compensation
Then force CEOs to work for minimum wage and force feed that ideology down their throats.
Work on commission
Yep,
This isn’t just for devs, this is advice for all working people. Don’t make it easy for them to exploit you. Labor without wages has a name and it’s called slavery.
Don't be dramatic. It's called volunteering.
@@drewmandan lol good joke
@@tonyg9921 you missed the point. People who work late for no money are CHOOSING to do so, and their selfishness and cowardice is making work worse for everyone
@@drewmandan At my previous job, the company experienced a month of heavy work load so they asked all the employees to volunteer to do overtime... and then managers went around and warned everyone they'd have to pick volunteers if too few employees volunteered... which kinda destroys the definition of the word. I now like to refer to it as "mandatory volunteering unless you want your coworkers to resent you".
@@Alpharexx I call that "being a coward". If my boss ever talked down to me like a child, I'd have a chat with him about my future employment
My job has a zero tolerance policy for working after hours, which I’m so thankful for. If we don’t finish work in the day, it’s ok, and we can do it the next day.
just curious what industry do you work in ?
I need this 🥲
Lol
@@mouten1889 probably Amazon 😂
@@Staymadcompapretty sure it's not Amazon
I was that guy. Got my first good job and wanted to work hard. Quickly I realized for working hard my reward was only extra work with zero compensation. Society always tell you “work hard and you will go places” but it’s not true at all.
Only applies to self-improvement and running your own business, not working for others
@@psprinny5348 yup, I had to learn that the hard way I guess. Or maybe I just needed to see it for myself
Exactly! I just quit my job for another job that pays less money. I was being taken for granted because I wore many hats and didn’t get compensated. My company was a startup! And he’s spot on about startups
Unless you work for your self and more work equals more money and time off
@Jase haha yeah! I notice the same people in multiple channels sometimes too!
Work hard, but never sacrifice your health. *_Health_* is the one thing that will be with you FOREVER
True! I know lots of people who work crazy long hours and their health is shot. They are either overweight or stressed out which can lead to health issues.
Made that mistake, recovering from it now. Don't do it folks, nothing is worth it can you can't put something important on a backburner and think you can come back to it later without it being worse off.
If you mean health generally, good or bad, sure, it's with you, but probably only as long as you are alive. Maybe someday we'll live forever. In which case, you definitely shouldn't sacrifice health.
Until dead, of course.
Very good point!
Josh is wise beyond his years.
After > 20 years in the industry, I can tell you he’s 100% correct.
Im not even in programming, but this shit hit me hard. This guy literally described me. I'm that asshole who works like mad, gets paid dirt money, and makes everyone else look bad.
@@mr.giraffe7076 atleast you are self aware enough to realize thatm and for that. Respect. 👌
Been there, done that. Now I value my time.
yup this is what real life is like. The world is full of not so nice people. Read the 48 laws of power.
@@mr.giraffe7076 I would never programm for a living but this channel has so much good advice in general so... Stay compassionate you damn nihilist! :D
I think the worst thing is those people who jump up and volunteer to work extra hours for free, and make you look bad for not doing the same. If you want my time, you have to pay for it. I'm not a charity for your business!
Exactly. We need to stop getting mad at management and instead get mad at the coworkers who are making things worse for everyone.
@@drewmandan Do both, management is also a problem
yep. A while ago, I was an IT field-instllation-Microsoft-Type-Guy. We were fitting out a new School with servers, desktops,laptops etc.... the project was quite quickly behind, so whilst being away from home mon-fri, I was asked if I could stay a couple of weekends to catch the project up......yeah sure, but I'll warn you my weekends are worth ALOT to me, especially when I spent 4-5evenings a week in a 'holiday Inn'......so the project manager, was like, yeah, cool, how much......I already knew my answer was £350 per day, (I was salaried) the pm was genuinely insulted....and laughed.....as If I was kidding!!!! .... Yeah, ok, the project cant afford that.... unlucky, then I go home this afternoon to see my wife and my dog, see you monday.......The project was around £1million in kit, and considering Microsoft provide all School licenses sdirt cheap/free, alot of it was maybe 300-400k for kit, the rest on labour...I was not wrong.
@@ywarlock charge them a rate where you don't care... if they say yes then you get a lot of money, if they say no then you get your weekend... make it a win-win for you and not the company
Are you sure they're not just japanese
"Minimum wage, minimum effort."
This is always my response (dropped out and went back to high school) to every manager that hires me. "You don't pay me shit. Don't expect me to work for shit."
Min wage usually jobs that require no training. Learn a trade or leave if underpaid is all you can really do.
@Mister Guy HAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
@Mister Guy You are very naive. You can work as a software developer for minimum wage. It's not about the type of work. It's about the company. I worked at an insurance company as a fullstack developer for 6680$/year. Of course, it was in Europe. So the statement, "Minimum wage, minimum effort" is true. If you want people to value you more, value yourself more. Make people belive you are valuable more than they think. You gotta be greedy about building your reputation. That's it.
They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work
His advice is true not only for the workplace, but for every human relationship! Set your boundaries / respect level early into the relationship and don't let anyone cross them!
I remember my first software engineering job in 1992. I worked until i passed out. I was so proud of myself of that job and what i was doing. I got laid off one year later.
I was born in 92. Hope you’re doing well I life.
I was born in 01 and I honestly don’t know how to land my first Tech or IT job
I went through that in the late 1990s. I worked by myself to burnout, and then we got bought out and I was laid off eventually. I wasn't aware about the frequency of acquistions and then they just layoff.
IBM or EDS by chance? I started work for EDS about that time, did the SED program came back and they started their RIFs. I lived in fear, it was going to be me for years.
lol
We have a saying here in Germany. "Stell dich dumm, brachste nicht arbeiten." Pretend to be dumb, save yourself work.
TOTALLY AGREED. The minute you start helping for free, you end up being a free helper lifer!
There is a joke doing the rounds - it goes like this:
Always give 100% a work, 10% on Monday, 19% on Tuesday, 38% on Wednesday, 28% on thursday and 5% on friday.
I used to think it was funny. After 28 years working in IT I actually think it's good advice and provides a nice home/work life balance.
If you give 120% 24/7 7 days a week 365 days you’ll be more successful
I learned this the hard way. For 4 years I worked my ass off on my first job. They sweet-talked me and said I was an idol to the company and offered me several raises. However, the moment I wanted to work regular 40 hours like everyone else, I'd get constantly called into review meetings asking "If I was okay, I seem unmotivated". I left that shitty place, got a new job earning double the salary, and working less. So yes, do minimal work necessary to keep everyone happy. Best advice ever man. Great content and UA-cam channel. You've got a new subscriber. P.S. You don't have an annoying voice lol.
People need to learn some self-respect. If your boss complains that you seem unmotivated, you tell them that it's THEIR PROBLEM to motivate you.
The only time you should work "your ass off" is when you are working for yourself because let's face it when you are working for a boss you are probably being underpaid and overworked. Even if you are getting $200 000 a year, that means the boss is making $2 000 000 a year from your work.
At least they were offering you raises with the sweet talk.
I don’t understand this logic. You can work hard and learn a bunch of stuff that will translate to another job if something happens, or you can do the bare minimum and have nothing to show for it. The developers that worked in big companies and are crying on LinkedIn for a job because they can’t find a job probably didn’t work very hard.
@@WesWesThePupja you're diluted
Don't work hard, work smart. Nobody teaches this. You just learn it.
What if you work smart and hard?
Roberto Diaz lol work hard when it’s smart to do so
@@bigstevedzn2353 duh, lol
my bosses tried to push extra hours. they even refused to give me a laptop for over 2 years so i wouldn't be able to remote work. i saw all the new hires in the department get laptops at start. i would only work the 40h. if i had an appointment in between, i would work a little extra hard but still within the hours. and then we had summer hours where we would leave the office at noon on fridays. the boomers were so irritated by it, they would try and pile work so people have to stay late. but i wouldn't play ball. i would tell my boss bye see you on monday. eventually they gave up trying to change.
Phantom Warrior I don’t understand. If there was already a rule in place to close down at noon, why were boomers trying to pile work? Did they not respect the company’s decision?
Having a solid work ethic just means you will get exploited nowadays.
It's not like Joshua is ahead of it's time. He lived, like many of us, many life changing experiences and learnt about the reality of the corporate world. He makes a difference by being open AND public about it. He's risking a lot. Much respect my friend, lots have seen it and lived it, few are public about it.
Holy shit, this is so real. Years later, I would go around the office and tell younger devs to go home and live life.
When I burned out after four years, my supervisor had no sympathy.
They forced me out after burning out, they went bust the next month, fuck em, unfortunately they kept going, because they had money, because we were being paid a shittance.
@pokepoke guy They didn't I left.
Wish i learnt this at a younger age. I had a severe burnout at 57 after 25 years in a high pressure job. Nearly took my life. Took 2 years off and now work part time (3 days pw) driving Cars on and off Ships. Love it. Btw this young Man is on point.
I burn out constantly, about every 4 to 6 months because the deadlines are unrealistic and I'm expected to do whatever it takes to meet them. I love programming but I find the IT industry to be extremely toxic with suffocating deadlines and clients who are always unhappy with the product. You can work 16 hour days but its still not good enough... I advise most young people who want to be programmers to go into another field unless they are really passionate about programming.
@@BillClinton228 I'm passionate about programming, yes. But... I do feel a bit burnt out right now. I keep feeling pressured to get Jira cards done in 2 weeks even when some bugs come up.
Them: what do you do?
Me: just enough to not get fired.
i do that now.
I work 4 hours per day, monday to friday. During those 4 hours my phone is in plane mode so my focus goes entirely to my job.
I stand up every 25 minutes to rest my eyes for 1 minute, and every hour I stretch.
Only when some client issues arise I work more.
It has been a great balance and always finish my work in time without burnout.
Amazing
What job do you do?
What job do you do?
"I've always subscribed to the idea that if you really want to impress your boss, you go in there and you do mediocre work, half-heartedly." -Jim Halpert
My personal philosophy is that if you work too hard you will grow to hate what you are working on. Take the gym for example, most newbies go in and completely shred only to stop going after a week. Its better to take it easy at the beginning and build up as you go. If you dont feel it then workout easy and the next day you will feel better about it. This works well for personal projects but for a job its more complicated and I think you have summed that up nicely.
Steady pace...wins the race.
Amen for that
Story of my life. One thing to keep in mind: working hard does not mean working well. You just become tired and depressed if you push it to the limit, and then you try harder and do less. It's like running a marathon, you need to keep a steady pace.
This is so real. I was laid off for a year and a half and got a job and was so excited I got a job and they had tons of ot. I was working 80-100 hours a week because I wanted to work hard and get ot and also learned every thing and became the best at their job. Never got promoted for five years applying to many manager jobs while dumb people who don't do their job got promoted. If you make to much money for the company they will try to keep you at your position forever. Great advice Josh
Yes and you make yourself irreplaceable
Not only that, but you proved to be a very dependable person at the position you were at. They realized hiring someone else for that promotion is better than giving it to you and having to hire someone to cover your roles since you provided so much. Very common amongst the work force and how promotions go.
Thank you for showing us inexperienced devs the reality of corporate world! You're awesome
Big facts here. The standard you set when you first get a job will be extremely hard to change later.
Sometimes you get "lucky" and get a manager/project lead that knows all this and you can be open about expectations and workload with him/her. There are huge skill differences in managers too.
I have a manager like this and I’m celebrating 5 years at my job in 2 weeks. 😅
When I worked as a line cook, I'd hustle hard every day.
Slow season came around, and one day I ran out of work to do.
So I told my chef.....
His response:
"Never say that again! You only know how to work fast, but now you need to work slow."
Sounds like me at work. Coworkers(not management) are like “man you’re so slow I can do that way faster” and I’m like no I work just as fast as I need to for the task
thomas samson I work at a pizza delivery place so I’m not worried about them having my best interest I’m trying to leave anyways lol
this is why companies like people who dont have experience. because they know those people work hard.
Why this channel is so underrated: comparing to other dev YT channels where they talk about unrealistic things and Josh come in here and gives actual practical advices no BS straight to the point.
This month must have been the greatest plot twist in my life/career. I began with the mindset of getting the best job and just make money for a living to having the mindset of getting a job where I can learn more things and then actually progress in my career as an individual, not just with a company. Thank you Josh! much love.
Thats awesome man
I totally agree with this. I remember several years ago, I negotiated two weeks vacation in August, it was October at the time. I got the salary and the two weeks vacation in writing. I worked hard, then 9 months rolled by. In July, I reminded my manager that I was taking two weeks vacation in August.They started to try to stop me from going on vacation and threatened to fire me. I went on vacation anyway. The day I came back from vacation our manager resigned and three members of my sales team resigned. I left a month later. I now run my own business. I will never rely on a corporate job again.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅 hahahahahahaha
i had this happen b4
I worked in the federal government if you complete your work you can pretty much do whatever you want because the boss does not want to find extra work because that will give him extra work on finding extra work. I want to go back to federal service since I finished university and do my 15 years and retire.
Sounds cushy af
@@JoshuaFluke1 yea it was. Currently I manage a hotel overnight to do online courses. I pretty much get paid to do nothing and I have trained no one to do my job except my shitty part timer that does not really do it well but shes good to cover days off.
@@JoshuaFluke1 I will get a Federal job again so I can do my thing. After a few years its near impossible to fire you so the easiest way is to promote you due to rules and must transfer depts.
Being civil servant is my dream job. 😍
@@Kanal7Indonesia yea I think I'll return to military service as an officer should be good gig if picked right. I just need to work off a few pounds.
Life; 8 hour work, 8 hour sleep, 8 hour frivolous thing. Work; 2 hour helping, 2 hour studying, 2 hour making things, and 2 hour idle. Based on my experience.
Hmmm. You might be on to something here.
Wish I could get 8 hours of sleep
@@jeremyrodriguez5923 you can take an hour or half nap... opportunistically throughout the day. Done that several times.
worse case is multiple nap throughout the day, as I didn't sleep the previous night but have to travel the next day.
@@jeremyrodriguez5923 try doxylamine succinate. Melatonin didn't even work for me... had sleep issues my whole life until I found it.
This guy is very honest. That exactly what I was doing in my first job, and I remember that I was really drained at the end of every day. Now, in my second job, I not giving 100% because they aren't paying the appropriate amount, and when I press to 40-50% the upper management feels like Wow you're doing great !
Bottom line every job you ever get is about expectations. A buddy at my first job ever taught me that when I asked him how he was able to come in late almost everyday and not get fired.
Really really needed to hear this. Thank you Joshua. I experienced burnout from putting 100% for my first job (I felt extremely guilty because they hired me knowing that it’s my first job like you said and I didn’t even have the 2 years of experience that they put on the job posting and yet they gave me a chance). Right now I realized I am doing so much more than my fellow coworkers who have the same position as me, yet I’m getting paid the same or even less than some people. My company also has the tendency to guilt trip the employees into over time and without pay and I didn’t notice it as a wild red flag because I was just so happy to get a job after graduation. Really wish I had watched this video a little sooner! For all of you new employees out there, Joshua is so right. Do not put in 100%!! A lot of employers will just take advantage of you that way!!
I would takr advantage of you. ofc
Seems like a lot of people view setting good boundaries (which is often difficult and uncomfortable to do) as being "unethical".
fuck it
I had a job where a person would do 3 hours overtime everyday and then complain about having to work so hard. After working there long enough I saw it was because management gave him harder projects because they knew he would sacrifice his livelihood to finish what was ever put in front of him.
Meanwhile, people like me, who did the bare minimum, wouldn't do more when the boss gave us more. The boss would actually help us because he knew the extra workload wasn't going to get done otherwise. The guy I just described understood this but, after working himself to the bone for years, he was convinced if he started doing less he'd be fired. It was tragic to watch him running around frustrated, tired, and angry everyday. His reward? Earning about 25 cents more per hour.
Ya he is worried that he will be fired for poor performance. Curious though, aren’t you worrried that you will be fired for doing the bare minimum or get less performance bonus?
@@junc2191 I wasn't worried about getting fired because it was a bad, manual labor job with high turnover. Management could find new people easily, but most wouldn't stay very long like all us regulars. They knew it and we knew it. Also, remember an extra 25 cents per hour isn't much of a performance "bonus," which is why most of us weren't motivated to go above and beyond for such a company.
@@TimErwin thank you for your reply!
At least at Walmart(Night Shift) Managers would have to stay and do whatever we didn't finish so as long as you didn't let them trick you into staying over they would be the ones to get screwed if they didn't give you enough man power to finish (Sometimes the task would show 18 hours which means it should be like 2-3 ppl doing it and they'd expect 1 person to do 18 hours worth of work in 8)
@junc2191 Performance bonus isn't enough to matter if they even give one and minimum wage jobs are a dime a dozen so if they fire you just easily get another one Walmart is a very good example (I used to stock Frozen/Dairy overnight and you would have to sign on/off for "tasks" basically the system would calculate roughly how long your stuff would take to be fully complete and I kid not you not there would be nights where the workload would be rated to take 20+ hours and the manager is essentially expecting you to do 20+ hours worth of work in 8 (They used to write ppl up for it too until ppl started pointing out the task times and complaining and corporate made the rule that you couldn't be wrote up for performance if the task time was more than 8 hours(16 for 2 ppl)(24 for 3 etc)
Health and well-being is everything FIRST. If you're dead or very sick, you cannot work. It is that simple. You can/will be replaced at the job. Eventually ppl will move on.
The first time I learnt this the hard way was in my local university where I took CS. This was during the start of the pandemic where institutions started to transition towards online learning. During that semester there were a lot of group work and final projects. Unluckily most of my assigned group mates on the classes I took flaked, leaving me to do all the projects alone. I had to work and study on average 19 hours a day for almost 4 months straight. At the end of it all I had to be hospitalized for overexerting myself. I had reported to the teaching assistants about this matter. Despite sparing no effort, they gave me a failing grade on one of my classes. There should be no way I failed after calculating my scores according to the syllabi. So, still in bed I protested to the teaching staff by phone. Gave proof that I did all my assignments. They told me to contact the administration. But the admins said there was nothing they could do about it because it was already past the deadline for scoring. Bullshit! How can the admins in charge of the database themselves not fix errors just because of a stupid rule! Yet they dare have the audacity to call themselves a "wOrlD cLaSS UniVeRsITy" that preaches honesty, truth and fairness! Their ranking isn't even above the 30th percentile of universities worldwide! Because I was marked as failing that class, I became ineligible to graduate with honors, all thanks to their incompetence. I swore never again to sacrifice my health for anything. It's not worth it. Just like companies, universities care about profit, and the more despicable ones like mine will do all they can to keep students in for longer.
In the startup I work at, I'm literally the only one who works their full 8 hours and thats it. They've been so used to working more than 8-9-10 hours a day that IM the one who feels bad for leaving at 5 or 510 and being the only one getting ready to leave =/
Well you've done your job already, there's nothing wrong with it
Yeah don’t feel bad. you’re working the amount of hours the job requires you to be there, and being paid for it. If other people want to waste their time do somthing that isnt even job and not getting paid then thats on them. if any manger brings up shit with you say that you work 10 hours a day if your salary is updated to 10 hour schedule. Nothing in life is free so start applying that to yourself because your time is extremely valuable.
@johan 11 that doesn't make your decision a wrong one though, stay strong
This is so needed! I was straight out of college and landed a job in consulting. Gave it my all then I ended up burnt out. Thank you for speaking the truth!
It's fantastic how relevant this became with "quiet quitting"
fresh out of college engineer here. currently in a production engineering "fast paced, go getter, self motivated" environment and im quickly realizing that a lot of this video is true.
Funny environment!
They need to slow da fuk down..
Very very good advise! My experience from enterprise IT job: every year in order to get a raise you have to exceed expectations and often even if you do, you still don't get a raise, they say you performed average... Aaand once you raised your own bar, next year you have to work even harder and still you won't get promoted. So basiclly you're setting a trap for yourself xD Don't do that! I learned it the hard way. Be average, change job every 2 years to get 20-30% raise.
I've been trying to inform coworkers of this, but it's hard when they are willing to do the work to make themselves look better, so being the black sheep just makes you replaceable.
It's really funny about the give you extra work bit, that's all my old works did. When I eventually told them to give me a raise they attempted to denegrade the work I did and didn't give me a raise. I immediately matched my co-workers output. Got asked what was wrong soon after. The nerve of management
@diongwi it might be from 2008 where people were desperate. But we're not even close to in that market anymore.
@diongwi I was discussing the origin with you, not the prevalence. However keep this in mind: you're far more likely to hear bad things than good. It's pretty hard to get people positively raving, but not hard to get people complaining.
Tbh, I don't mind getting extra work. I'd rather have something to do instead of nothing to do. I want my 40 hours to fly by because I stuff to do; I don't want to be struggling to stay awake while watching the clock because my queue is empty.
@@ordinaryhuman5645 agreed, but if my co-workers make the same and I do more, I match my coworkers
More sage advice.Whatever is said, however it may appear, they ain't gonna buy the cow when they're getting the milk for free.Corporate or private,- all the same.
I can so relate to this. I worked so hard in the beginning that I had lot of back problems and sleepless nights. I just snapped and from one day started drawing my boundaries. Initially I was called me lot of time to office so that manager can get angry with me. i just told them to fire me if they think I am not doing the job. They didn't because I was doing a lot more in 8 hours than my peers who were working sleepless nights and going for office team building nonsense. I hope young people should value themselves more.
This was a pretty crucial concept that i missed. I was one of the top performers at my last job, got run down and burnt out, still out performed most people but got told i have dropped in performance and need to go back to how i was before.. because they expected that as a baseline
This is the reason why I couldn't last more than 4 months in any job... Trying to please everyone, do everything now and today.
After few months I start looking for a way out and by the time I leave I'm burnt to the ground... Feel like I don't know better, it's either 0 or a 100.
Happy birthday man :)
Has it gotten any better?
Man you've for sure magic powers. First, you had talked about your dev history in corporations (pretty similar to mine) until started to talk about failure and i was about to drop a tear remembering failures everytime trying so hard, and to put the cherry in the cake, this video.
Love your channel, thanks for all your content, it's very valuable and i appreciate this kind of videos, this gives me no motivation, moreover something to think and that's cool 'cause motivation is like having a ball (it works but only once a time) but thoughts stay a long time with us.
Keep the good work! and ty again
This is gold. Leaving at the end of your work day, and having time to do your own thing outside of work are so important in any industry. It's good to see videos that don't suck up to the corporate bosses. I'd add, as I often do, that an historically effective way to improve things at work, as well as standing up for yourself, is to recognise your shared position of being exploited with your colleagues by the company; from there, you organise together to improve terms and conditions, pay etc, in other words you unionise your work place. It's self defence at work, collectively, against the corporate bureaucracy.
Employers always win as employmernt law is corrupt.
THIS !!! I'M OVERWORKED IN MY NEW JOB. OVERTIMED. I TRY TO SHOW THAT I'M WORTH IT. JUST BECAUSE I GOT THIS JOB DURING PANDEMIC. ALSO MY "MANAGERS" DON'T EVEN RESPECT ME. I REALLY SHOULD RESPECT MYSELF & MY TIME AND THEY SURE TF SHOULD TOO.
I need to follow this advice. I tortured this for years while working in places, i threw everything. I was afraid getting of in trouble and not meeting expectations, i was afraid i wouldnt be loved at some level. I almost cant work hard anymore because the anxiety it causes me is like someones holding a knife to my eye.
company will have a for hire ad up before your obituary, take care of yourself....i like turtles
Turtles? Sexually?
Ideal work day: 7 hours self improvement, 1 hour lunch.
"Pretty sure he's working hard" - mgmt
Average work day: 5 hours self improvement, 2 hours laid back work, 1 hour lunch.
"Wow what a productive lad" - mgmt
Oh no we need this project done in 2 days!11: 3 hours relaxing, 4 hours working, 1 hour lunch.
"This guy is really coming through for us" - mgmt
This is great.
@@JoshuaFluke1 maybe I don't suck after all. I get this!
I'm starting to think that i work way too much
I am curious! Do you self improve by searching and reading on the Internet on what ever is of your interest at that moment?
For me best form is thought audio and video, but probably you dont watch something at the workplace.
Self improvement. Buddha didnt do some and had a ball anyway
Absolute gold advise never bend over for any company always respect yourself and time and if they don't then look for another job that will respect your time.
Still remember my bosses face when i told the reason i dont want to stay late is because i don't feel like it ..was priceless
He probably cried afterwards on her wife's lap
The last job I had required mandatory overtime, even if you didn't have anything to do. I hated it, especially when the bosses could skip out on Saturdays but require us to work. I learned quickly to not rush and take my time with things. What really killed me is when I would take my time, I would constantly get in trouble for no reason. Even my coworkers asked why I had a target on my back.
Never work yourself to be their mule because they will take advantage of you everytime.
Employment law is corrupt. Its a slave system in place that many people don't know about
I wish i would have heard these words years ago, before my burnout.
In the corporate world no good deed goes unpunished. This is so true!
Sad that bad deed go rewarded
This exactly what I was trying to Explain to people in my team... DON'T SET THE EMPLOYER EXPECTATIONS TOO HIGH!....
I did this in a digital marketing job i've just been let go from. Went in at 100% knowing I shouldn't, but i was excited to start the new role.
Impressed them for 6 months then had to take my foot off the gas as I was burning out, and a baby was coming / lost a family pet and member.
3 months later, yearly review, and it was essentially "where did all that enthusiasm go" . Picked it back up, only to be let go this November for '"performance issues", even after I let them know they gave me no goals and targets to aim towards.
You're right to say only give them what they need. I won't be making this mistake again.
You are my window to the industry, I’m new and this helps so much
I've fallen into this trap when I first started. It took me a few months (maybe half a year) and quite a few sprints until I took a deep breath and recognized it doesn't matter how much I finish for the sprint review. Noone realy cares how hard you tried to fix that bug last second before the sprint review. It was weighting hard on my relationships and on my nerves/psyche but completely unnecessary. Noone actually expected that extra effort or realy appreciated it. My medium effort was still better than the effort of some of my colleagues so why care... So basicaly, your words are true.
This is good advice. I make hiring decisions and I agree 100%. I hire people (in an industry where 20 hour days are a reality) for the hours I need them based on potential. The expectations are stated in the beginning and a minimum is the baseline, if you work more, you get more money or work less later. The one thing I disagree with is that this isn’t about a playbook or an ethical issue. You hit the nail on the head, this is life. People are paid for their time, that’s the exchange. If you lie about working 12 hours, then it’s wrong, but if you honestly work 8 or 6 or 4 and are honest, then it’s up to me to tell you what the expectations are (clearly) and why you are or aren’t meeting them. It’s terrible that a lot of businesses see employees as fungible and are willing to burn them out, but I’d rather get 8 hours a day of good consistent work for 10 years, than 1 year of unsustainable effort that results in a burnout who quits.
I’m 19, these videos are actually great. Thank you for this. I’m learning a lot
this was uploaded in 2019 but spoke so much to me in 2021, thanks Josh!
Man I wish I would have seen this when it came out. I pushed out a massive project that crunched from 2 years to 3 months in early 2019 and I burned myself out.
Just finished coding some tasks that were delayed. It's 1 am. Should've gone to sleep or study for my finals
Rock on dude
The harder you work, the more work they are going to give you.
Yup. And with no raise.
It's pointless.
"Set your respect level" - excellent.
this is so me lol. just make your boss' expectation at a "good enough" level and you'll have a good enough day at work
I needed this right now. Ive been working way longer hours, now that I'm working from home. Less time on my personal self improvement. I don't get paid lots at all, or paid for overtime. I need to respect my time more.
Amen, mister; give a company an inch and it'll take a mile
Wow...this video hit home for me. After months of applying to countless jobs after university and internships I finally landed a job in my career of choice. It was a great paying position, but on contract. I got this after 6 months of being unemployed, and being unemployed that long really knocked the self confidence outta me so I never thought I deserved the job (thus starting the toxic cycle of proving to myself and the company that I deserved this job and having imposter syndrome). I would come in early, stay late, offered to take on projects people didn't want to do, pushed myself mentally and brought work home just to keep up with it. I got so fed up and burnt out after 1 year and asked for less projects and to extend some deadlines because I felt like I was always drowning in work, to which management refused since no one else was willing to take the projects back. Well my work suffered and they ended my contract early while extending others. All in all I wish I hadn't tried so hard to show them I deserved the job because it just bit me in the ass and was my downfall lol. Better to take the advice in this video and just put in 20% so you don't burn yourself to the ground.
You're completely right. Probably the worst situation you can put yourself into is when you work with family, especially parents. The guilt trip is huge. Just avoid it at all costs.
I used to work like 13 hours WFH in a startup as an unpaid intern. Now I learnt what I wanted to learn , I wanna quit now. Thanks to you Josh
I had jobs where months after I was working there they would try and get more out of me by saying "Well in the interview I saw your potential and you convinced me you were the one I thought you were the person to step up I'm disapointed". Then I would feel guilty and work extra hours projects etc.. What a bunch of bs..
I really needed to see this - thank you. I've been burnt out for a long time...but I was too close to the fire to see why. You pulled me back.
So it's 3 years later listening to this and thinking about what's happening in the tech industry
Always remember, the more real work you do, the less real money you earn. Bullshit jobs for life.
I completely agree with that 'baseline expectation' thing being crucial in the beginning. It's something I wish I had been taught earlier - but I'm glad I did learn it at the first job and not at a later time in life. Very relevant content. Pacing yourself is important, to avoid burnouts & self-care... Life is not just about work as you frequently state & I completely agree. Some people completely build their lives around their careers & if that makes them happy then go for it, but I agree that a balanced & a more varied life is much more fulfilling...
Always remember kids: when you eventually burn out, they don't say "thank you". They fire you.
I completely agree with you. I've had a team leader that had 2 kids and every day stay in the office for 2, 3 and sometimes more hours. That guy tried several times to prevent me from leaving the office on time, neglecting the fact that everyone in the office knew that I go to work half hour earlier and leave just in time. The things escalated and I told him straight - You know, I arrived to this company as former freelancer. I've got this job to know that I'm on work from 9 do 6, if you want it otherwise - I'll give you my rates which we both know that you won't like (my rate back then was about 4 times higher compared to my salary).
"Keep it backwards, maybe just enough to keep them happy, if not a little bit more, because that's how your impress them" Not in the industry yet but can i wish i did this in other areas with other people at points.
I am a Private Bank Data analyst. I just have to say that this guy is so right. Everything he says is reality out there. Value yourselves and enjoy your personal time way way more than your work time
I have been running for 20 damn years, I'm burned out and done with corporate America, they will always take advantage of you and use you up until your dead. I know a couple people that have had heart attacks on the toilet at work. We had a guy that died in the parking lot at work. Not how I want to go out.
This is way too accurate lol. But here's the one story of one time where it wasn't boy do i miss this place. Every year in November they put together a burn down list of every thing that needed to be done by the end of the year. When we as a company finished the list we were all off for the year. The best part was this was all paid and didn't effect our vacation time at all. I'll never forget the year we finished everything 2 days before thanksgiving! That was awesome. More companies should do that!
Until next year. They'll learn the lesson and put more stuff on the list. XD
This is exactly why you never ever show what you are truly capable of as a worker. If you use 100% effort right off the bat, the 100% effort is what they would expect from you all the time. While if you use 70~80%, they would simply expect the 70~80% from you. And occasionally you can simply use somewhere like 80~90% efforts just to show them you have improvement space so that they would keep you around.
If you have to think twice before pushing back any work because you're worried about how you'll be judged. It ain't the right place for you.
Thanks good advice for my current condition
Happy birthday Josh
This video is my work and training beliefs in a nutshell
Thanks sujay!
That roach on the wall at 1:38 was like: Oh shit, I am in the shot, hurry get out.
Oh shit I saw it too.
This is the most accurate video I have ever watched. Working Smarter > Working Harder.
You speak my language throughout your videos. I'm in a pinch of life with not a great job and looking to improve, find my passions (lol i used to be a career freak in high school and college - so passions NOW means something i genuinely value, not something to sound impressive and less cringe), etc. and the algorithm blessed me with your content. So lucky to have found you! Subscribed!