ULTIMATE commuter E-Bike: ORBEA VIBE (fully modified)
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
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After fully upgrading my Orbea Vibe H30 and using it for six months, I have made quite a few interesting modifications to make it even lighter, faster, more convenient and practical to use - to that is what I'll be talking about in this video.
My previous videos about Orbea Vibe:
1) why I chose it: • E-bike: why I chose Or...
2) full upgrade and weight reduction by 3 kilograms: • Orbea VIBE H30 full up...
The modifications I've made in this version of the bike:
1) Veloduo mudguards: www.veloduo.co.uk/products/ca...
2) Speedfun Ghost for Mahle Ebikemotion: www.speedfun.bike/en/prodotto...
3) Fabric cageless water bottle: fabric.cc/products/hydration/...
4) Battery extender: www.orbea.com/ro-en/gear/acce...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:12 Carbon mudguards
2:40 Rear integrated light
3:43 Battery extender
4:37 Twisted Wheels DIY quick release system
6:56 SpeedFun Ebikemotion speed modifier
9:03 Why I put a narrow cassette
9:56 Women-specific saddle 0_o
10:13 New extralight 650B tyres
10:51 Handlebar bag
12:13 Bike weight
13:04 Conclusion
Great video. A previous video of yours helped me decide to buy a Vibe EQ which I have now had for 5 months. I can't fault it, it's lightweight, comfortable, robust and a pleasure to ride even when the battery runs out. I've now also got a range extender. Thanks for your continued tips.
Thanks mate. Glad you liked it
Like your careless mount hack ! Thank you for posting.
I bought this bike because/thanks to you. It's awesome !! I haven't done any upgrade but it's light enough for me. Great commuter bike !!!
Thank you just bought this bike for £1400 closing down sale froma ebike shop bought it on your recommendation gonna add a rack and mudguards soon
Thank you ☺️
Great deal!
I like your bike. It's so non-nonsense, industrial and practical. Almost military with your OD color scheme. Your bottle mount modifications are equally practical and the manufacturer should have listened to your suggested inprovements to their design. Don't they care about improving their product?
Brilliant! I love your style.
Well done on the video quality and the bike.
Thanks mate
I love this bike, lovely to ride. I have the fully loaded commute version so it's way heavier than your machine. For some reason the front light insists on turning on when i charge it, my only gripe. Love these videos, thank you :)
Thanks Sam!
You can turn the light off when charging by pressing the top button.
After watch both Videos, I bought this bike. Tubeless and the handle bar rise is the best. Orbea should pay you. Excellent commuter
same here, excellent bike! best review online for this bike
nice upgrades😍
Glad you like them! :)
I'd buy this e-bike tomorrow, but I understand you can't remove the battery, and I live on the third floor..a pain to bring it upstairs for charging (and I don't fancy using the battery extender only) . Nice work and inventive spirit. You deserve more subscribers!
Thanks, Stefano!
Like your style dude, vey tasteful bike 🚲. I personally ride the Specialized Creo e5 which has great battery range and assistance up to 45kmh. After having previously owned 3 ebikes, I always advise new owners to buy motor and battery first, then the bike, as the biggest complaint is range and speed cut off limits.
surely 45 kph isn't legal?
@@funksoulbrother3620 depends on market. EU pedal assist rules are a lot stricter than US. The same bike shipped to the EU has a different firmware for the region to adhere to 25kmh, where US restrictions are much looser and different by state (I think)
@@neilk22 That's true. 45 kmh might as well be a moped
@@funksoulbrother3620 you should try give one a try to understand the dynamic. No one I know rides their bike in turbo mode all day (you can’t, the battery won’t allow you to in terms of range) - so in eco or sport modes you are still getting a workout, and helping the bike to 40kmh speeds which in terms of road biking is not that high. The benefit is that you aren’t sitting anerobic to achieve the speed, therefor getting around a set course in reasonable time, with a workout. I have a couple of bikes (6) and I see my creo as an augment to my gravel/road training. Others with health conditions could use this as a tool as well etc no doubt this technology is revolutionising riding for a whole new segment in the industry.
Nice list, and a nice bike. I currently run those Vittoria Terreno tires and while I'd love to be able to swap to some lovely René Herse, not on my commute. The Vittoria have have zero punctures, lighter tires I've tried didn't make a single ride.
I was inspired by your previous video on this bike. So I bought the exact same model here in Australia. Am slowly trying to upgrade parts to reduce the weight but parts aren't so easy to find here compared to UK. And being a novice, I am very unsure about a lot of stuff. May need your help on some parts. Keep up these great videos.
Thanks mate. The situation with bike parts globally is pretty bad, so I assume that in Australia it might be even more difficult to get the right parts.
Hi, does the assist power change under slow speed climbing? I had the volabike one and with that below 18 km/h the assist was about 50% of what it was without the tuning.
Great video! I just got my Orbea H30 Vibe and it’s absolutely amazing. One question: Do you use the mounts provided with the fabric bottle?
Any comments on the speedfun? Does it drastically decrease in power after the natural 23/25km/h natural limit of the bike? Thanks! Did it affect battery life a lot? Also, does the mahle motor drag after assist cuts off?
oh and a very entertaining review ,which has made me consider buying that model ,do you know how wide i could go on 700 wheels ? and what was the cost of re lacing the rear wheels
Sick video! I'm still eyeing on this bike ever since I saw your 1st video. From Aus Melb and Orbea has dealers. Just waiting for Covid and life / the right time to look at it. Would be cool to get a ride POV go pro kinda video of a commute in London? :) Thanks!!
Thanks, Klauze. Agree. I wasn’t expecting the video to be almost 15 minutes (so much to talk about!), otherwise would include footage from the ride :)
Thank you so much for the video. I have the same bike, and I am looking to update to save weight just like you. However, I would like to keep the wheel size at 700C. Do you have any recommendation when it comes to wheels at this size for upgrade? Thank you.
Hey, thanks for putting up the video, I am thinking of getting a vibe h30, what kind of millage are you getting on a single charge?
I’ve got the gain d30 but the rear light is positioned poorly I’m thinking of getting rid of the light all together and getting a carbon seat post then just have a catseye on the back . Do think I could run it with. Or do you think I will end up with system problems?
Fascinada
What's the bike stand you're using in this video? Are you able to clean the chain with the bike mounted on it?
I’ve just bought this bike and want to fit mudguards in autumn. How are the mudguards fitted? Under the front fork?
Vado 5.0 IGH ✅
How can I add a more powerful e-bike extra light in the front?
Hello there!!! Really liking your videos 👍.
Just wanted to know if you had any long term issues with the Speedfun cable?
Hi Thanks for your great information. Im buying the H30. EQ version is €400 so i think i will get my own mudguards and rack - can you reccommend a lightweight robust mudguard and rack - rack strong enough to take a babycarrier for my granddaughter. Thanks Brid
Great Video!
I’m inspired to copy your upgrades, particularly the muddies, which look great as well as being practical.
I wonder how puncture resistant your light weight tyres are?
Here in Australia, like the UK, all eBikes are speed limited to 25kmh but interestingly, in New Zealand the same Orbea eBikes have a 35kmh limit…hmm, some hidden software I suspect. I’d love to know how to unlock that extra potential.
Thanks! These are lightweight tyres, so I assume the puncture protection will not be the best in class, I assume, but I’m fine with them so far. Ride quality is amazing.
I don’t think you can unlock the 35kmh, unfortunately, but you can buy a bike in New Zealand 😄
Such a greate bike.
Thanks!
you were great in Road To Perdition, especially the face plant at the end. Great review also.
Had the H10 almost a year now
Love the bike but fitted the speed fun ghost and in all honesty can't tell much difference
The Mahle app isn't reading the mph
and all the measurements are wrong .
Any ideas anyone ?
Top quality video. I really like the mods and having flexibility about what you want to hook onto your bike. Are you London based? If so, is it something you'd offer doing? I've got the same bike, same lock, same bottle.
Hey, I do. Send me an email or message in Insta.
Great bike mate , how is this bike holding up in London town ? Is it still on point ?
Hah! Happy wife, happy life. So true. Looking forward to the xc build.
This is the main rule 😄
Is it easy to cycle the bike if battery is dead?
Fantastic video. Thanks so much for making it. I learned a lot and appreciate your passion and expertise. I've got 2 questions, if you have time to respond. 1. What advantages and/or disadvantages do 650B wheels have as compared to 700cc? And, 2. I'm looking to get my first electric bicycle (I'm an old roadie, 60 years-old living on a very hilly Greek island :)) and I'm curious about your thoughts on a rear hub motor driven e-bike versus a bottom bracket/crank motor driven bike? I'm looking to get the Specialized Turbo Creo road/gravel e-bike which has a bottom bracket/crank motor. Thanks for any reply. Really enjoy your channel. Keep-up the good work!
Thanks!
Answers to your questions:
1. I only put 650B wheels because both my wife and I are using this bike and she is much shorter (163cm) than me (182cm), so I wanted to make the bike more comfortable for her (lower centre of gravity, easier to reach the ground with your leg).
2. I believe the bb motors are more efficient when it comes to rolling resistance when you are not pedalling or pedalling without motor support. So if this is a road/gravel bike, I’d probably go for a bb motor. Since speeds in the city are usually below 30km/h, then whatever you choose, bb or hub motor, won’t make much difference
@@TwistedWheels Thanks again so very much for your reply. Appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. Yes, I think I'll be getting an e-bike w/a bb motor with 700cc wheels. :)
Domanda, si riesce a fare questa trasformazione anche sulla e-bike Gt egrade current oppure il telaio non merita?
I have recently purchased this bike, I'm in the process of fitting mudguards, but realise now that the Orbea H30 doesn't have a seatstay bridge to fit them to! Can I ask where you got yours from or did it come with the Velodou mudguards? Great video there doesn't seem to be much content on this model so was useful when deciding to go for this bike.
Hey, I believe Orbea sell these bridges separately, but they were out of stock when I contacted them. So I used the bridge from a different bike - Tifosi Cafazzo.
Hey 👋 great video. Inspired me to buy one. Bought the speedfun + extender. Swapped out the awful Kenda tyres 😢. What have you used to connect top of rear mudguard as there is no seat stay bridge. Thx Bill
Thanks. I used a bridge from a different frame
Thanks for your videos, man. Really useful. Which pedals are you using by the way?
In this video I have XPEDO XMX24MC, but I have now switched to Arclight LED pedals from Redshift sports (just released) which are absolutely amazing in terms of improving your visibility on the road.
I hope they make a carbon frame one that is cheaper than the Vado
Great bike and video, where did you get the range battery extender from ? Can only find it for OREBA Spanish site but it’s costly ? Any deals out there ? Cheers
Thanks! I bought the extender in the UK. Paid £550 :(
Liked your three vibe videos, do you have any rear-carrier to advice ? I used a topeak one but it is like 900 grammes. It would be awesome if you could suggest some light 700 wheels and explain how do you move the motor from a wheel to another (you probably need special wheels to be able to fit the engine). Changing the frontwheel shoould be much cheaper. Also link toward the cranck would be nice.
Did you consider using a cracnk with 2 gear, the problem with the vibe is that past 40-45km/h you don't have any gear left. I really liked the cranck and front gear on your another video but i don't get the model name, it s full carbon so i will probably go for second hand. I also don't know if the front crank is standard, can i just buy any crank or do they have different thickness or even diameter.
Thanks.
I can’t advise any rear racks as I have never used one.
The motor is the same hub as others, just with bigger flanges, so the process of moving to a different wheel is the same as with standard hubs.
Cranks are Sram Red DUB with Garbaruk chainring.
HI - now own 2 of these (mine and my partner!) due to your videos! - could you advise where you got/model of the rear mudguard seat stay bridge from please?
Haha I wish Orbea has put me on commission for this bike. I could have earned a small fortune 😃
I believe you can buy an Orbea-specific bridge if you contact them, but they were out of stock when I checked. Therefore, I used the one that came with a different bike - Tifosi Cavazzo. I believe there should be some adjustable bridges if you search online
Hey, great informative video. Can I ask, did you get a red/pink flashing light on controller after installing the Speedfun? I did so removed it for now. Thanks.
Hey, no I didn’t get any flashing light. Suggest you contact SpeedFun.
@@TwistedWheels will do. Thanks again and safe riding.
Hi It says on the speed fun site that you should not use the extender with the speedfun speed modifier. Have you used this with the extender?
I have a volabike extender and an orbea extender (my wife) has one but I have the volabike speed modifier which I think is the same thing as yours. I only had it a few rides with the volabike extender and the speed modifier and I found that on 100% level 3 assist going up a hill the motor cuts out if you drop below 8mph which is interesting and not what I expected. Please tell me if this is the case with you. Thanks in advance. I have not tried it yet without the extender or with the orbea battery extender connected. One more thing please. On 100% level 3 with the speed modifier fitted no extender, do you still get the motor assist to get you going from a standing start? soz for all the questions.
I think I used it with the extender once and didn’t notice any difference. Though I only use it for commuting short distances.
Hi at 6m53 you show the extender on the front down tube, tell me does the cable fit still?
I can’t remember, but the cable is very short. So I have the adapter that allows to move the mounts down.
i have the orbea gain with drop bars same green as yours. interested in the bar bag, who makes it .? your bike looks sweet with those mudgaurds . thanks for any bag info...Ray
Hi Ray, thanks. The bag is made by Cafe Du Cycliste
Love the bike looks awesome , I want to buy and change the handle bars to gravel bars do you know if the existing cables are long enough ? how long is the bike handle bars stem ? I am based in the UK London do you take on bike upgrades ? now you have speed fun installed what is the cut off speed now ?
Would be nice to see this bike with road bike handlebar. Did you make it? Any experience?
@@andreaslouca4721 No actually , I bought a Cube hybrid pro MTB e bike , and now I have bought a frame and wil be converting that to a gravel bike .
I'm looking to pick a Vibe soon but am unsure on the sizing and don't have any nearby that I can check out in advance. I'm 6ft3, what height are you and what size did you go with?
XL without a doubt. You'll have even more height depending on your shoes.
Hi. Thanks for great info. I’m about to purchase the H30. But would like to ride the handlebars. The shop said bit possible. Do u agree. It’s important question for me as the position puts a lot of pressure on my wrists. Thanks so much
You mean drop handlebars?
Options for getting a little more off road comfort? Any front suspension I can add while keeping its sleek looks?
I’d recommend installing Redshift Sports suspension stem, you might need to change the shape of the understem spacer though to allow for stem movement… I haven’t tried it on Orbea, but I’m using this stem on my gravel bike.
Or go with 650B wheels with wider tyres (like I did) and reduce the pressure to 30-35 PSI (or even lower)
@@TwistedWheels thanks did not know this existed. Will check them out.
Are you able to transport your baby/toddler with this bike? Do you add a childseat or pulll a trailer at times?
Hi, I’ve installed Thule rear child seat. Works well.
Can you use your battery extender and the ghost system? The website doesn't recommend it
Did you try it?
Hi, liked your review on this and definitely A1 on weight weeney upgrades! I have a question, is there a chance can we upgrade or covert Vibe into belt driven bike? in this way it could be cleaner and less maintenance to own one. I hope you could share your thoughts on it. cheers! :)
Hi, thanks!
Two things here: 1) You would normally need a frame with the split rear seatstay to put the belt through, but I’ve seen this on Eurobike:
www.veercycle.com/products/split-belt-pro?variant=39563266424910
This theoretically allows to make a belt drive on any frame.
2) The second question is the gears: with belt drive they need to be either in the rear hub - that wouldn’t work as there is a motor there on Vibe, or you need a gearbox at the bb area, like pinion - but for that you need a special frame, so it will also won’t work.
So unless you are happy with a single-speed, the belt drive + gears won’t work. Unless there are belt drives with external gears - I haven’t done a research, so maybe there are… 🤷🏻♂️
@@TwistedWheels I thought there"s a way to do it, sad to know it won't work because of the frame itself. Really like how orbea did with its internal cable routing and the battery in the downtube, sleek and clean. Anyways, maybe they'll release belt-drive version of this soon. Thank you. Cheers! :)
i bought this bike because of these videos, but there is issue i wanted to ask about. sometimes when i drive fast (used a fixie,so strong legs:) its kinda jerky feeling in the back motor. Is it because i drive faster then 25km. Would the "tuning" mod maybe resolve this issue ?
Hi, not sure. It’s better to contact Orbea or the store you bought the bike from.
yeah, terrible customer service here i live. But i will contact orbea. thx
I cant afford those carbon mudguards. Would 46mmx700 be okay or 55mm x700? Would the 55mm fit between the forks? Any help appreciated!
Sorry, I have 650B wheels, so haven’t tried 700c mudguards. You can do the measures of the frame and fork and decide on the size that would fit.
@@TwistedWheels Hi.Cheers. The EQ has 55mm mudguards ...just checked the spec ...so,I.m assuming the non eq bike is specced similarly. Thanks for the reply ...
Did you consider using a retrofit table belt drive by Veer Cycle?
No, because I need gears
Hello
did you use the Carbon Fibers Mudguards 700C x 40mm or 50mm?
thank you
very cool bike
Hey, yes, they are carbon. I believe they are 58mm x 650B as they need to wrap around 48mm tyres.
@@TwistedWheels
Thank you
did you also change the pedals?
do you have any suggestions for a pedals?
The Speed fun ghost system you installed.... I don't get it...in the US the bike will go 20MPH which seems higher than the Ghost system is giving you... Is the bike sold slower in Europe?
Speed fun gives an increase of 10-13% to what the restriction is. In EU and UK e-bikes are restricted to 25KMH, so it will give you roughly 28-29KMH speed. In the US it will be 22-24MPH.
@@TwistedWheels Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it! I just ordered the Vibe in green just like you! Now to figuring out mods to get it much the same as yours weight wise and maybe a bit different stylistically! Great content!
good bike for the price
I wish you'd upgraded stem to sth like redshift shockstop suspension stem. That is my next big change on mine Vibe.
PS. I also bought this bike thanks to you :)
I was thinking about it, but you have a sleeve for internal cable routing under the stem, so it won’t work or you’ll have to remove the sleeve
@@TwistedWheels That's also my concern, but check our how GCN did it. Doesn't look that bad imo.
ua-cam.com/video/DWrMpTj-SGE/v-deo.html
@@MateuszSzumny they have a standard stem. Redshift needs to move up and down.
@@TwistedWheels Right, but they installed it in negative position. With redshift I will go other way to provide space for the bounce. Also notice they added one small ring above the sleeve. You can always go higher with those. Will share results once my stem and seatpost arrive.
Anyways... Great channel! Keep it going!
@@MateuszSzumny I’m not saying it is not possible to install it. I’m saying that I didn’t want to compromise the looks. Moreover, I went for 650B wheels with 48mm tyres, so this provides more than enough cushioning for commuting.
Share how you manage to get it on yours - it would be interesting to see.
Nice bike. Is the crankset stock?
Watch this :)
ua-cam.com/video/Zbmv7yxLoBg/v-deo.html
If Orbea support doesn’t help. This is that a good company.
We wants it.
Why didn't you choose a drop bar model with x35?
Because I didn’t want a drop bar 😃
@@TwistedWheels lovely answer and lovely bike. I am not having a chance of trying a x35 motor in the hills of Lisbon. Do you think it's a good option to commute in a city with Hill ?
Привет, где купить такие крылья? Очень красивые, может есть ссылка на магазин? Заранее спасибо
Привет, www.veloduo.co.uk
Great video, great bike! What crankset do you have?
Hey Alexander, thanks!
I’m using Sram Red DUB cranks. There is a video on my channel about upgrading this bike:
ua-cam.com/video/Zbmv7yxLoBg/v-deo.html
Hey, thanks for answer 😊
I have the Vibe H10 with a 12 speed cassette. Since I find this much too large cassette very ugly and I don’t need 12 gears. I would like to downgrade to 10 speed. What do I have to consider when converting? 10-speed cassette, new shifter, new rear derailleur... Does the freewheel still have to be replaced?
@@alexandergroe5187 I wouldn’t downgrade 12 speed to 10. There are smaller 12-speed cassettes that you can use, for example Rotor 11-39T - it’s not cheap, but you’ll probably save about 400g (!) by replacing just the cassette and also avoid the hassle of changing the whole groupset.
@@TwistedWheels OK thank you. I already suspected that the conversion would not work 😤
@@alexandergroe5187 it will work and you’ll even save some money, I just don’t see why you would be downgrading the drivetrain
Can this Ebike be programmed for 25+ mph?
No
Is the battery replaceable?
I believe it is, but I never tried
Ref: water bottle holder... Could you not 3D print an adaptor to make a normal water bottle fit the battery holder?
How? You’ll beed to 3D print a water bottle to be the shape of a battery holder
@@TwistedWheels take an existing water bottle which fits in the battery holder with room to spare, and print out a shim to go around the bottle to make it snug. Like the rubber inserts you get on bicycle accessories that go on the hand bars to adapt to the size of bar, if you see what I mean?
I wanted to see how the extra battery connect's to the bike electrically
Through the charging port
@@TwistedWheels ok
The fabric bottle mounts do not hold very well!!!
As soon as I hit a speed bump it went absolutely flying.
Do that do this to your battery.
It means you need to tighten the mounts better (squeeze them). I’ve been using them on my road and gravel bikes for over two years and never had a tool keg disconnect from the mount.
I build ebikes in Southern California. Everyone here wants an ebike that goes 70mph.
Haha I want one too!
All you need is a Brooks B17 saddle
I think I’m good 😊
Man i am saying this seriusly. I'm from Spain and i proudly ride an Orbea bike. I have some nice german accesories like rear rack, panniers, lights, grips and tires. And my favorite upgrade so far i did to my bike is a B17 saddle, it says "made in England" what a beutifull and brilliant saddle ever made. If i would live in London, i would proudly ride a Brooks saddle
@@playth2627 It just doesn’t fit me 🤷🏻♂️
@@TwistedWheels your bike is amazing, specialized saddle is one of the greatest for confort and it looks sweet.
Nice custom bike. Loved your video
I have just bought an Orbea, to commute to work and back every day. But you're haste to reduce weight always grinds against common sense. If you want a lighter bike have a beer less or a snack less. As a truck driver I see - rather struggle to see in poor light conditions - cyclists who prefer to reduce weight by reducing lights and visibility. You may well say its the responsibility of the car or lorry driver to see you, you may well think you will be suitably compensated if you are knocked off a bike. But having spent time recovering from injuries in a hospital, then you quickly realise just how stupid a few less grams actually saves a whole load of pain. You also realise that compensation will never really cover the cost of pain you go through. Finally, that few grams less will have no impact on that coffin you may well end up in..
Watch my next video about this Orbea ;)
It amazes me that people could be satisfied with 25kmh with an ebike.
Initial response: Got this bike for my friend. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ Delivery was fast. And the friend was surprised I would order it when she had never suggested she wanted anything but the pedal bike she had. She has now ridden the bike two times and gives it a 10 and says it is very fun. We have some hills in our town that are very challenging to climb on a typical bike. But tonight she went up with the pedal assist and loved it. I was way behind on my standard bike, huffing and puffing. Now she is no longer lagging behind me. This thing is powerful enough that a person could go around town without any pedaling. She likes to get some exercise so on flat ground she hits the red button to turn off pedal assist and only uses the twist throttle when she's in a tough spot. The bike looks good. It is really a very nice bike for the friend. Now for me, when I get an electric bike, I'm twice her size and will be looking for a bigger watt motor and battery. But this one is just wonderful for my friend. I am happy with this purchase.