I bought the jewel setting tool and all the pieces a couple weeks ago and was very surprised at how small it was also. Last night I picked up a K&D staking set, like you I made an offer and they accepted. Haven’t even received it yet but I know mine will need much more work than yours did. The price was absolutely perfect though. I hope to fully restore mine and find any missing pieces. Thank you for this video, it ran across my feed at just the perfect time. I will be using it as a guide for my staking set inspection and cleaning.
@@pigskinfanboy Congrats on your new gear! I feel like refinishing a vintage tool creates an attachment to it that you will remember when you use it in the future. Happy watchmaking!
Mike, very well done; great purchase and really great bargain. Biggest hassle with a staking set is getting the cleaned stakes back in some realistic order. Biggest help I’ve found is that many of the old manufacturers have handbooks and those are frequently on line. Very useful for finding a missing stake or stump and they often show the sequence of storage. Again thanks for the video.
What a fantastic eBay find. Great score on that staking set. You'll be using it more than you had imagined! Barrel arbor port adjustments, wheel & pinion repairs, etc. all are in your near future. Have you sourced a jeweling/Horia tool yet? You'll find that you'll begin to enjoy having to replace jewels, adjust end shake, etc. once you get one of those in your tool kit as well. I'm enjoying the channel, great work!
Hi Adam! Thanks for the encouraging words. I haven't started looking at jeweling tools yet. I am hoping for my next "big" purchase to be a stereo microscope with a good video camera. (I love my digital microscope for observation, but I am always hitting the lens with my tweezers.) Between the staking set and eventually a Horia tool, I'm looking forward to understanding all of the nuances in restoring and fine-tuning my watch projects. I've really been enjoying watchmaking, and wearing the watches I fix… The learning process seems endless, as does my shopping list for new tools and supplies, lol!😁
@@WatchWithMike as a result of your video I saw a ebay set and made a silly offer. Just for the heck of of it. We'll, heck. They accepted. It's on it way. One again I'll be viewing. Woohoo!
Hi Tom, that's awesome! My wife basically said the same thing. I really had fun making the video… And now I get to learn how to use the tool and put it on the channel for all to see! 😁
Love watching your videos because I learn so much. Almost like hopping onto Chat GPT. Great advice and it’s a pleasure to watch how you work. I think that you are right about the potential issues if the first photo is of a decent looking box. Thanks as always.
Hi Mike , What a great resource your videos are ! keep up the great work ! . I am looking for some information and thought you might be able to point me in the right direction . I recently bought a well used C. & E. Marshall set and it looks like somebody tried to "restore" it by soaking in rust remover and now a number of the smaller holes on the anvil are plugged. I'm looking for original spec's for the holes diameters so I can limit the size of the cleaning effort to prevent damage - Also looking for recommendations for lubrication on the inner workings ( cam ,etc) for reassembly . Any help would be much appreciated - Thanks, Matt
Hi Matt, thanks for the kind words! I don't know the hole diameter sizes. For the inner works I used a 3-in-1 type household oil. For the holes that are plugged, I might try soaking the part again in Evaporust, and then blowing out the holes with compressed air. It might be enough to dislodge any oxidation, and you wouldn't have to worry about re-machining the holes. Good luck!
Mike, great video! It was very helpful for me as I just purchased a similar set on eBay. Do you happen to know where I can find the CE Marshall catalog you mention around 18:45? I'd love to be able to compare the stakes I received just like you did in your video.
Don't those pins go to the roller table removers to tighten/loosen the jaws? 5 pins for your 5 roller table removers. ;-) I just picked up a K&D 18R deluxe set but am having buyer's remorse after how much I paid for it. Lost out on several auctions and just gave up and threw my wallet at it. Maybe I'll feel better about it once I have the set in hand.
Is that what those pins are for? I'm going to check out your theory! Thank you! I hope the set you bought lives up to your expectations! I saw so many auctions go sky high, and I was getting discouraged, too. Good tools are definitely worth it! 😁
Great video as always! I would love a video where you show some examples on how this tool could be used. I'm still pretty new to the hobby and haven't seen anybody use this before. So I don't really get how its used :P
I agree! I need to spend some time with it and do a little bit of learning, and then I will be putting out some videos. Looking forward to it and thank you for the suggestion! 😁
Hey Mike. Nice staking set. I got a similar one from e-bay that required much more rust intervention. Mine has a balance staff jammed into one of the table's holes. Any idea how to completely remove the table to get at that blockage?
Thanks! I wasn't able to fully get mine apart, so I stopped out of fear that I would not be able to get it back together again! I might try pushing a stuck balance staff out of a hole using a similarly sized drillbit before taking it apart. Worth a try?
I disassembled a Moseley staking tool by first removing the large hand screw that holds locks the table and then using a brass drift to gently tap the table up from the bottom. It's friction fit. YMMV.
That's a fair comment! FYI, while my workspace is temperature and humidity controlled, I also have a moisture absorbing silica packet in the toolbox as a precautionary measure. 😁
No joke, in cleaning hundreds of guitars in restoration, I've found that the best preserved finishes were always underneath layers of tar and nicotine!
@@WatchWithMike hand rubbing in a light coat of window cleaner over a guitar caked with years of grime will loosen that up without hurting the finish, not sure I would use it on a decades old Gibson, Fender or Martin, certainly not leave it on for long, and it's a one time job, don't recommend using it regularly, only when you need to get that grime off.. I only experienced some clouding once when I left it on for a while (>15 minutes - negligence on my part, though over time, the clouding dissipated). And you might want to avoid it with checking finishes..
@@jscan Thanks for the feedback! Window cleaner is my go-to cleanser in my shop, and on my watch making bench. Just enough solvent, and it evaporates without residue.
@@WatchWithMike Ha! I heard that but because of the emphasis on "much" followed by "wiser and older" I was like, "Nope. Not me. And not me again!" 😂😂😂 I guess I forgot I'm in my 60's now and that you're still only in your 50's (for the next few weeks anyway!) 😂😂😂
I bought the jewel setting tool and all the pieces a couple weeks ago and was very surprised at how small it was also. Last night I picked up a K&D staking set, like you I made an offer and they accepted. Haven’t even received it yet but I know mine will need much more work than yours did. The price was absolutely perfect though. I hope to fully restore mine and find any missing pieces. Thank you for this video, it ran across my feed at just the perfect time. I will be using it as a guide for my staking set inspection and cleaning.
@@pigskinfanboy Congrats on your new gear! I feel like refinishing a vintage tool creates an attachment to it that you will remember when you use it in the future. Happy watchmaking!
Mike, very well done; great purchase and really great bargain. Biggest hassle with a staking set is getting the cleaned stakes back in some realistic order. Biggest help I’ve found is that many of the old manufacturers have handbooks and those are frequently on line. Very useful for finding a missing stake or stump and they often show the sequence of storage. Again thanks for the video.
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Slowly getting caught up on your videos Mike. Making a wish list of tools that I need.
Hi Sam, thanks for watching! Leave some space at the bottom of the list, as it's sure to get longer! 🤣
What a fantastic eBay find. Great score on that staking set. You'll be using it more than you had imagined! Barrel arbor port adjustments, wheel & pinion repairs, etc. all are in your near future. Have you sourced a jeweling/Horia tool yet? You'll find that you'll begin to enjoy having to replace jewels, adjust end shake, etc. once you get one of those in your tool kit as well. I'm enjoying the channel, great work!
Hi Adam! Thanks for the encouraging words. I haven't started looking at jeweling tools yet. I am hoping for my next "big" purchase to be a stereo microscope with a good video camera. (I love my digital microscope for observation, but I am always hitting the lens with my tweezers.) Between the staking set and eventually a Horia tool, I'm looking forward to understanding all of the nuances in restoring and fine-tuning my watch projects. I've really been enjoying watchmaking, and wearing the watches I fix… The learning process seems endless, as does my shopping list for new tools and supplies, lol!😁
Thank you for the information and the instruction. Well worth the watch. I note your comments and accept the content.
Ross, you're welcome! This was a fun video to make! 😁
@@WatchWithMike as a result of your video I saw a ebay set and made a silly offer. Just for the heck of of it. We'll, heck. They accepted. It's on it way. One again I'll be viewing. Woohoo!
@@rossjackson3670 Woohoo indeed! 😁👍🏻 That's awesome!
The unmarked stake is a stake used to
Line up
The tool in perfect line.
@@davidhindman2166 Yes!
I also have the CE Marshal stake set. I absolutely love my set it is beautiful.
Very cool!
Great information Mike. Very thorough and well thought out. Your explanations were clear and helpful. Thank you.
Thanks Steve! It was a lot of information so your complement means a lot. 😁
Mike, I admire your determination which made me watch the complete video without having a clue what one can do with these tools! 😅
Hi Tom, that's awesome! My wife basically said the same thing. I really had fun making the video… And now I get to learn how to use the tool and put it on the channel for all to see! 😁
@@WatchWithMike I can’t wait! 😉
Hello. A cool tool. Congratulations. Tell me, what is the diameter and length of the punches?
Thanks! The stakes are approximately 80mm long x 4.7mm thick.
Love watching your videos because I learn so much. Almost like hopping onto Chat GPT. Great advice and it’s a pleasure to watch how you work. I think that you are right about the potential issues if the first photo is of a decent looking box. Thanks as always.
Hi Sky Blue! Really glad you're enjoying the shows... I'm having so much fun making them. Stay tuned, lots more fun on the way! 😁
Hi Mike ,
What a great resource your videos are ! keep up the great work ! . I am looking for some information and thought you might be able to point me in the right direction . I recently bought a well used C. & E. Marshall set and it looks like somebody tried to "restore" it by soaking in rust remover and now a number of the smaller holes on the anvil are plugged. I'm looking for original spec's for the holes diameters so I can limit the size of the cleaning effort to prevent damage - Also looking for recommendations for lubrication on the inner workings ( cam ,etc) for reassembly .
Any help would be much appreciated -
Thanks,
Matt
Hi Matt, thanks for the kind words! I don't know the hole diameter sizes. For the inner works I used a 3-in-1 type household oil. For the holes that are plugged, I might try soaking the part again in Evaporust, and then blowing out the holes with compressed air. It might be enough to dislodge any oxidation, and you wouldn't have to worry about re-machining the holes. Good luck!
Mike, great video! It was very helpful for me as I just purchased a similar set on eBay. Do you happen to know where I can find the CE Marshall catalog you mention around 18:45? I'd love to be able to compare the stakes I received just like you did in your video.
Thanks for the kind words! I think I found those screen grabs on a random watchmaking forum… Google search is our friend! 😁
Don't those pins go to the roller table removers to tighten/loosen the jaws? 5 pins for your 5 roller table removers. ;-) I just picked up a K&D 18R deluxe set but am having buyer's remorse after how much I paid for it. Lost out on several auctions and just gave up and threw my wallet at it. Maybe I'll feel better about it once I have the set in hand.
Is that what those pins are for? I'm going to check out your theory! Thank you! I hope the set you bought lives up to your expectations! I saw so many auctions go sky high, and I was getting discouraged, too. Good tools are definitely worth it! 😁
Great video as always!
I would love a video where you show some examples on how this tool could be used. I'm still pretty new to the hobby and haven't seen anybody use this before. So I don't really get how its used :P
I agree! I need to spend some time with it and do a little bit of learning, and then I will be putting out some videos. Looking forward to it and thank you for the suggestion! 😁
Marshall Mosley's Betting Box
I feel like I won the bet! 😀
Hey Mike. Nice staking set. I got a similar one from e-bay that required much more rust intervention.
Mine has a balance staff jammed into one of the table's holes. Any idea how to completely remove the table to get at that blockage?
Thanks! I wasn't able to fully get mine apart, so I stopped out of fear that I would not be able to get it back together again! I might try pushing a stuck balance staff out of a hole using a similarly sized drillbit before taking it apart. Worth a try?
I disassembled a Moseley staking tool by first removing the large hand screw that holds locks the table and then using a brass drift to gently tap the table up from the bottom. It's friction fit. YMMV.
There is a reason why instrument boxes are 'bare' inside. It's because any cloths or velvet dressings attract and hold moisture. Just saying!
That's a fair comment! FYI, while my workspace is temperature and humidity controlled, I also have a moisture absorbing silica packet in the toolbox as a precautionary measure. 😁
The punches you had a question about are "cross hole punches".
@@mkahky Awesome, thanks! 👍🏼
Please measure the length, width, and height of the wooden punch box.
The staking Set box is 7.5 inches wide, 5.5 inches deep and 7.75 inches high.
@@WatchWithMike THANK YOU, YOU ARE A TRUE FRIEND
No joke, in cleaning hundreds of guitars in restoration, I've found that the best preserved finishes were always underneath layers of tar and nicotine!
That's crazy! So I'm curious… How do you get off tar and nicotine from a vintage guitar with a lacquer or nitro finish, without destroying the finish?
@@WatchWithMike hand rubbing in a light coat of window cleaner over a guitar caked with years of grime will loosen that up without hurting the finish, not sure I would use it on a decades old Gibson, Fender or Martin, certainly not leave it on for long, and it's a one time job, don't recommend using it regularly, only when you need to get that grime off.. I only experienced some clouding once when I left it on for a while (>15 minutes - negligence on my part, though over time, the clouding dissipated). And you might want to avoid it with checking finishes..
@@jscan Thanks for the feedback! Window cleaner is my go-to cleanser in my shop, and on my watch making bench. Just enough solvent, and it evaporates without residue.
Hello. Thanks for the reply. One more small request. Please measure the dimensions of the potance box. Length, width, height.
Please tell me, what is potance box?
@@WatchWithMike Marshall Moseley Staking Set
very interesting
Thanks! Glad you think so!
nice cie moser you wearing fist i tought he is wearing a apple watch but that cant be it must be a cie moser lol
Always go with your first thought!
Hey, did you get that staking tool set on Amazon? 😂😂😂
Lol, so how about that packaging? Good thing I'm not trying to hide my eBay buying habits from my wife! 😁
@@WatchWithMike 20:30 I need a tool picker-upper like that!
24:16 is you buddy! 😁
@@WatchWithMike Ha! I heard that but because of the emphasis on "much" followed by "wiser and older" I was like, "Nope. Not me. And not me again!" 😂😂😂 I guess I forgot I'm in my 60's now and that you're still only in your 50's (for the next few weeks anyway!) 😂😂😂
@@IMakeWatches Yes, sir! 🚨🧜♀️
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Thanks John! 😁