Top 10 Lost F1 Circuits - Abandoned Formula One Tracks - Improved Edition

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  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 5 років тому +803

    They created a simulation of the old Spa circuit and found that a 2018 F1 car would be at full throttle for 94% of the lap.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +127

      Yeah for todays F1 it would be too fast. Even the current circuit is a lot full throttle. I rember in the 90's they brake for Pouhon, now they only lift a little for the first one.

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 5 років тому +47

      @@Circuitsofthepast Pouhon became full throttle/small lift in qualy only after 2017 rules, they used to brake and downshift in V10 V8 era

    • @rockypupoxo
      @rockypupoxo 5 років тому +39

      But isnt that F1 is supposed to be ? Flat balls out racing ! Not like it is now with fuel saving on some tracks . The hybrid era maybe faster but its all about managing different modes on the car , Senna would have hated it .

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 5 років тому +59

      @@rockypupoxo 94% on throttle is more like drag racing

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +46

      I agree with both skandre7 7 7 and rockypup1968. Todays F1 is more about fuel and tyres saving, while it should be about pushing to the limit. On the other way, a track which is 94% full throttle is not interesting. There should be a good mix of different corners. Not like the old AVUS (for example), but for sure also not like the modern Tilke track with the only fast corners after a very slow corner, so you tan take it easy flat out.

  • @rockypupoxo
    @rockypupoxo 5 років тому +437

    They ruined Hockenheim when they changed it , some brilliant races in both F1 cars and on bikes .

    • @SCYN0
      @SCYN0 5 років тому +36

      Dont say they ruined it. It's still an insanely good track when u see the last 2 years were upon the best for centuries

    • @daijirokatoh3769
      @daijirokatoh3769 5 років тому +26

      Agree! It lost what made it Hockenheim

    • @carlcushmanhybels8159
      @carlcushmanhybels8159 5 років тому +12

      @@daijirokatoh3769 And they completely removed much of the old track, e.g, the 'Jim Clark' big sweeping turn.! I read there were German tax incentives to destroy it and plant trees and hay-grass.

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 5 років тому +14

      @@SCYN0 because it was raining, old Hocke had its character and was unique in terms of car setup only second to Monza. Currently in F1 most tracks demand similar medium or high downforce what makes things easier

    • @rockypupoxo
      @rockypupoxo 5 років тому +22

      @@SCYN0 its more like a mickey mouse kart track now compared to how it use to be , just my opinion , but its no where as good as it was .

  • @waspassiertwenn8806
    @waspassiertwenn8806 5 років тому +177

    We miss the old Hockenheimring!

  • @alancommaille7789
    @alancommaille7789 5 років тому +76

    Really enjoy this format with commentary and a track map. Great!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +3

      Thank you. A new video in this style is in production.

    • @carlcushmanhybels8159
      @carlcushmanhybels8159 5 років тому +1

      Yes. I do wish the narrator/ producer would spend a bit of time (could be done on the phone) to learn and adopt correct French pronunciations. Rather than offhand mangled English ones.

  • @veronviper06
    @veronviper06 5 років тому +118

    At least we can relive Rouen-les-Essarts, old spa, old Monza, old silverstone and old hokenheim in project cars 2

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 5 років тому +1

      I really wish the French 'Ring to be modernized and re-open, gosh by the few looks it was epic ! ;0)

    • @lordofkiwi5144
      @lordofkiwi5144 5 років тому +8

      @@poplaurentiu4148 It will not happen... our governement hate everything related to speed and noise. They want us all in 50hp electric car.

    • @Brandon-oi4fq
      @Brandon-oi4fq 4 роки тому

      Yes

    • @casscroute8706
      @casscroute8706 4 роки тому

      @@lordofkiwi5144 c'est assez dommage quand on se dit que c est les français qui ont inventé le sport auto

    • @saltbjorn
      @saltbjorn 4 роки тому +1

      Wait Rouen is in pc2?

  • @leroyrs
    @leroyrs 3 роки тому +23

    I appreciate your passion for abandoned race tracks. You look at them and they still have the magic...What people did to the Hockenheimring is a shame. In 1992 I was there to see the F1 GP. (Senna, Berger, Mansell, Patrese, a young Schumacher) Never forget... in 1977 my parents took me to the old Nürburgring. I still regret for not having taken fotos with a cam. Even that this day was no race some training sessions of several touring cars were very amazing. I also remembered looking to the Südlurve and wondered what part of the Nordschleife that was and why no cars were driving there. I didn't know that this were the old Südschleife. Unfortunately I was too young to explore and my parents weren't intetested in more Nürburgring. Thx for your efforts to show us the abandoned tracks...Grüße aus Deutschland...

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 роки тому +2

      Danke für das Teilen der Erinnerungen! Grüße aus den Niederlanden.

  • @arthurguitar
    @arthurguitar 5 років тому +153

    Hockenheimring was absolutely ruined. The length of the track meant you could have rain on one side and dry on the other. Wings basically at horizontal angles for straight line speed. They should never have changed it!

    • @betaorionis2164
      @betaorionis2164 5 років тому +12

      It was a great circuit: the nearly horizontal wings meant that the cars had very little downforce at the twisty Motodrom section, so it was tricky and mistakes were common.

    • @lenstrul5067
      @lenstrul5067 4 роки тому +2

      I feel like they could convert that into a endurance track

    • @charlesklass4209
      @charlesklass4209 3 роки тому +3

      Tilke only did what he did because the rest of the land was already sold to the local government, that's all he had to work with, and they wanted chicanes and massive runoffs too...crying shame but he did what he had to do

    • @dylanzrim3635
      @dylanzrim3635 3 роки тому

      @@charlesklass4209 he was going to leave it original to the first chicane, then have a hairpin and a long straight to the senna chicane then as it is today... the local govt couldn’t even make that concession.

    • @WoddCar
      @WoddCar 3 роки тому +2

      I think the newer circuit is better, but I think they should have kept the old layout for other divisions of racing

  • @paullindenfelser2323
    @paullindenfelser2323 5 років тому +110

    The Hockenheim with the blast through the woods was one of my favorite tracks. I still have VHS footage of Nigel Mansell bounding over the kerbs at the chicanes on his way to a fantastic qualifying lap. The new layout is completely uninspired.

    • @davidellis5135
      @davidellis5135 3 роки тому +6

      On F1 2001 on the PS2 if you jumped start, drove your car into the tree section and stoped in the middle of the road about 50 yards before the first chicane, the Ai cars would plow into you and cause spectacular multiple pile ups with cars flipping everywhere . I did load's. sometimes reversing a little helped, I still have that game .

    • @obez42
      @obez42 2 роки тому

      My favourite of all time

    • @n4s117
      @n4s117 2 роки тому +4

      World Superbike was the series to see at Hockenheim bfore F1 destroyed it.

    • @MisterMister5893
      @MisterMister5893 2 роки тому

      Still take the new layout over some of the newer tracks which have no memory/heritage. You could argue new tracks need time to develop heritage and a fanbase but some just flat out don't have the requisites to do so. Russia? Korea? I'll temper my criticism a bit as Korea did have some good corners but economics wasn't in their favour. I especially like Velancia which in a way had charm and died off far too soon. The bridge, the tight corners, it was different.

    • @Dmitry_Fadeev
      @Dmitry_Fadeev Рік тому +3

      The old Hockenheim was a great track, but races were not very interesting there. The fast cars ran away and there was not too much challenge. Monza has the same feature.

  • @IIGrayfoxII
    @IIGrayfoxII 5 років тому +79

    I remember the old Hockenheim Ring from Formula 1 on the PS1

    • @magnussencube
      @magnussencube 4 роки тому +3

      IIGrayfoxII you could cut the chicanes and drive sectors 1 and 2 flatout

    • @napoleonbonaparte7172
      @napoleonbonaparte7172 3 роки тому +1

      I play F1WGP on N64 i miss that track playing as Häkkinen and win races

    • @MrDavidbiohazard
      @MrDavidbiohazard 8 місяців тому +1

      Its also on f1 2019

  • @clonmeliw
    @clonmeliw 5 років тому +16

    Thank you for the time and effort you put into this video. I've made many of those pilgrimages myself - my wife thought I was the only one crazy enough to do so - because I love the feeling of the historic fabric and hearing the voices of ghosts. It's a moving experience to be transported backward in time but bittersweet to see the utter disregard for what for many of us is hallowed ground. Nothing says we cherish and venerate the memories you gave us like the sound of a bulldozer!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +1

      Thank you. Now you can show you're wife you're not the only one :D Yes it's a bittersweet feeling exploring those abandoned circuits. On one side it's such a cool experience. On the other side it's motorsport history in decline.

  • @thetruth7633
    @thetruth7633 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, on Google Earth you can see the old lay-outs more clear in the past (using time stamps). Hockenheim old layout is still there in 10/2000.

  • @christophermathern6796
    @christophermathern6796 5 років тому +12

    Great video. It makes me sad to see this being forgotten but I thank you for keeping the past alive

  • @DFN86
    @DFN86 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for the video, my dad was a big F1 nut and many summer holidays were spent visiting these tracks (with my dad pushing his Renault 19 past the legal limit on the left over tracks/public sections). Have fond memories of exploring the grandstand at Reims-Gueux and have spent ages trying to find out where it was!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing this story. Good to hear there are more people like me :D

  • @stevesolo16
    @stevesolo16 5 років тому +7

    Wonderful historic information. This insight goes to prove, to build truly great tracks, the whole town has to be behind it. In the U.S. it's all private money, and that doesn't leave us with enough large, new road courses. Here, we run inside an oval and up onto the banking. These are fun, but are a lot of the samething. These Euro tracks have a beauty unto each of them.

  • @wschell4023
    @wschell4023 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for a great UA-cam video. We took in some racing at Monza September 2018. Luckily found the tunnel to the infield for a great experience. While your video extends to present day I couldn’t determine how the old track relates to current track.

  • @fw0756
    @fw0756 3 роки тому +7

    Very enjoyable to see the old spa track ,dangerous and spectacular at the same time,no words can properly express the skill and daring the drivers of that era showed.🇦🇺👍

  • @CFS08
    @CFS08 5 років тому +5

    Great video, sad to see Hockenheim on first place but I totally agree.
    I remember watching Rubens Barrichello’s first win there in 2000 in a crazy rainy race. It broke my heart to see what they did to the circuit in 2002, an amazing and unique track was transformed into a regular and boring one.
    Glad they still make the classic circuit in games (not only Hockenheim) so we can have a shot of those good times.

    • @Yoshiman2024
      @Yoshiman2024 5 років тому

      Nostalgia is a strange thing... The races on the old track were actually very boring

    • @CFS08
      @CFS08 5 років тому

      Joske78 I agree somehow but I believe they were relatively boring because of the huge mechanical and technological gaps between the teams.

    • @Yoshiman2024
      @Yoshiman2024 5 років тому

      @@CFS08 Maybe you're right. All I can say is I personally find it a little tedious running long races on sims because of the (maybe to) long straights.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +3

      I have also mixed feelings about the old track. It was absolutely not a great track as many fans claim. However, it was good for the alternation on the calendar. And what they did to the track is a shame and it was unneccesary. The old track may have been unpopular by most drivers and a little boring. On the other side it was an unique track with it's contrast between the woods and the stadium. Now they replaced the historic part of the track by an average modern section.

    • @CFS08
      @CFS08 5 років тому +2

      Circuits of the past Yes that’s exactly what I mean. It didn’t produce super exciting races but the track was unique. My nostalgia is much more about the circuit rather than the races.

  • @zanclod
    @zanclod 5 років тому +6

    Excellent video and commentaries. It's very interesting to rediscover these old circuits

  • @DanySahne85
    @DanySahne85 5 років тому +44

    I'm from Germany and at first I say sorry for my bad English.
    I knew the old Hockenheimring very well, I was born not far from there. I must say that it don't like the new Hockenheimring because of the changing of the atmosphere. In the past there was a atmosphere like a stadium. Sure, the fans don't saw their hero's very often because one lap was very long. But the speed on the track was very high and the races where so spectacular because of the high-speed. The new layout (i think Hermann Tilke is one reason for that) is nearly boring. A typical Tilke-Track... I don't like it.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +9

      Yes Tilke designed the new section of Hockenheim, but he's not resonsible for the destruction of the old track. However, I don't like his designs neiter. They all have the same components, he copy pasted the corners from track 1 to track 2, 3 and so on. And most fast corners are after a very slow corner, so they are easy full throttle.

    • @remiicario
      @remiicario 4 роки тому

      Circuits of the past he only did some little tweaks to his track designs (placement, elevation changes, etc.) but still made it boring lol

    • @DJLauth
      @DJLauth 4 роки тому +2

      They should save up money, find a sponser like RedBull, and invest in making the old section drivable again.
      But it will surely cost loads of money.

    • @remiicario
      @remiicario 4 роки тому +1

      @@DJLauth they actually remade the track due to their own initiative. They know that track will be forgotten due to how simple the track is and feared that the track would be considered dull. But WHY they chose Tilke to design it?

    • @DJLauth
      @DJLauth 4 роки тому

      @@remiicario I know. Something about not selling tickets in the forrest section, was the official statement to remake the track, if i remember right.

  • @Jimmer93
    @Jimmer93 5 років тому +65

    F1 should go back to Charade, looks a wonderful track and very picturesque, anything is better than the eye sore and bore fest that is Paul Ricard circuit!
    Very interesting video.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +4

      Thank you. Charade would be a more technical track than Paul Ricard. On the other side, it would be more difficult to overtake there, and the safety could also be an issue. So maybe they would require adjustments that would ruin Charade.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 роки тому +2

      @@Circuitsofthepast TV coverage would be all but impossible too.

  • @lepicvert
    @lepicvert 5 років тому +3

    I come from Clermont-Ferrand, so I know well the Charade's circuit. The deleted part is my sandbox when I ride my motobike. It is a big pleasure to discover other old F1 circuits. Thanks a lot !

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      You're welcome! Yes it was big fun to drve the old part of the Clermont-Ferrand circuit. Especially the fast banked corner (15:11) before the long climb, where I overtake that slow driving car :)

  • @Esteban.Garcia.87
    @Esteban.Garcia.87 5 років тому +7

    Very good video! So sad what happened with original Hockenheim layout, it was one of my favourite circuits

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +1

      Thanks. Actually the version we now call old Hockenheim was the third version. The original version was the triangular street circuit. However, I agree they shouldn't butcher the old section through the woods. That was the only remain of the original layout and gave the track it's unique character.

    • @davefloyd9443
      @davefloyd9443 2 роки тому

      Jim Clark chicane, approached at full speed was what prompted Schwantz's infamous. 'Wait until you see God, then brake', technique description.

  • @MultiCOOLFRESH
    @MultiCOOLFRESH 5 років тому +7

    Amazing work and really good investiagations on these tracks. Keep it up :)
    MCF

  • @iainmcintosh9068
    @iainmcintosh9068 4 роки тому +1

    Tremendous upload , the good old days before health and safety took hold , was surprised how steep the bankig was at the old Monza is & Avus was even steeper, Epic .

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 роки тому

      Sitges-Terramar had the steepest banking, 66 degrees! Here a video with 5 steep bankings: ua-cam.com/video/fDrAoLEmo5M/v-deo.html
      This video also need a remake with the AVUS included.

    • @firenerf2197
      @firenerf2197 3 роки тому

      @@Circuitsofthepast THE STEEPEST BANKING IS AT SITGGS-TRREAMAR?! Man! I did NOT notice that!

  • @Aesh-om2sz
    @Aesh-om2sz 5 років тому +1

    I clicked on the vid because of the Scirocco but stayed for the beautifully well done video.
    Keep up the good work

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +1

      Thanks! Yes that was my silver VW Scirocco, when I visited Nivelles for the first and second time. Later I had another Scirocco and a Corrado.

    • @Aesh-om2sz
      @Aesh-om2sz 5 років тому +1

      @@Circuitsofthepast Very lovely cars.
      My current Scirocco looks exactly like your old one :)

  • @dowhillsta
    @dowhillsta 5 років тому +6

    I remember playing f1 challenge 99-02 , and then in the 99 season racing at the old hockenheim , I was impress on how long the track was .

  • @gosportjamie
    @gosportjamie 5 років тому +7

    It was Kieth Odor, also known as Kieth O'dor who died at Avus. He was the son of Jan Odor who started Janspeed. He was a very talented touring car driver who drove the rapid, but under-funded and under-developed Janspeed Nissans in the BTCC to some surprising results, considering the manufacturer power and spending they were up against, and were probably responsible for Nissan running a full, manufacturer funded team in the BTCC later in the '90s...

  • @philiptownsend4026
    @philiptownsend4026 2 роки тому

    That was an excellent and very interesting production. Nostalgic emotions in play now. Thank you so much.

  • @antoinegruner2327
    @antoinegruner2327 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing video - keep going. it's history there. twice more interesting than BBC pre race track info... you learn more here than anywhere else.

  • @Peasmouldia
    @Peasmouldia 5 років тому +39

    Loss of the old Hock was a particular shame for me and other F1 fans here in Wiltshire as some teams would test their aero and gearing for the Hock here at Kevill Airfield.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +2

      Yes it was a good aternation of the calendar, even if it was not a technical circuit. Interesting information about Kevill Airfield. Thanks!

    • @GUNNERSIGHTZEROED
      @GUNNERSIGHTZEROED 5 років тому +1

      Is that an incorrect spelling of Keevil?

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +2

      @@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED I think so. I never heard about it untill Ian told me about it here. But after paste it into Google I learned it should be Keevil.

    • @Peasmouldia
      @Peasmouldia 5 років тому

      @@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED You are quite correct, I could probably misspell my own name. As to the testing, many F1 fans would show up for the tests as the engine noise could be heard for miles. A Renault V10 F1 engine is pretty distinctive!

    • @Peasmouldia
      @Peasmouldia 5 років тому +1

      @@Circuitsofthepast Your right, I've lived here 50yrs+, so no excuse other than idiocy! Just an extra piece of information, at one of the Williams tests (1998 I think) the driver was some kid called Juan Pablo Montoya. Wonder what became of him?

  • @ernestogasulla7763
    @ernestogasulla7763 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome video, thanks. One comment; Montjuich does not qualify as "abandoned". It was a street track, and all the streets that formed it are still there in pretty good condition. Of course, it's crazy dangerous for today's standards, and having the dedicated Catalunya race track nearby there's zero chances it could ever be raced again. But it would be doable.

  • @SCYN0
    @SCYN0 5 років тому +4

    Just wow. The effort and the story behind each track is really really interesting. Great UA-camr. Found a new Sub :)

  • @JanBinnendijk
    @JanBinnendijk 5 років тому +3

    Great Video!.. I really like the old circuits.. I've been on the Nordschleife, Francorchamps and one day i sneaked through a fence to ride on the old part of Zandvoort..from the top of Hunzerug all the way to Tunnel Oost..
    also.. i've ridden Santamonica in Italy when it was still counterclockwise..
    The Local roads around Francorchamps still make you feel like you're on a racetrack..
    Also, i've driven some of these tracks in the "Grand Prix Legends" Game.. and Nivelles is quite a challenge..

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      Bedankt. Ik ben in 1989 vlak na de opening van het interim-circuit van Zandvoort ook eens vanaf het parkeerterrein het oude gedeelte opgereden. Eerst tegengesteld naar de hekken op de Hunserug (niet Hunzerug) en toen terug naar het Bos Uit. Aanvankelijk had ik nog aardig de gang er in, maar bij het Scheivlak liep een vrouw met haar hondje te wandelen. Toen besloot ik toch maar wat langzamer te rijden.
      Later toen het bungalowpark er stond kon je nog via een woonwijk de baan op, vlak voor waar ooit de Panoramabocht was. Maar al gauw hadden ze Tunnel Oost eruit gehaald en gebruikten ze een deel van het oude circuit als woonwagenkamp.

  • @rickyprice7586
    @rickyprice7586 5 років тому +3

    Very good and interesting video. I have visited the old banking at monza myself a few years ago. The history is amazing

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @rickyprice7586
      @rickyprice7586 5 років тому

      Two years ago I also visited imola to see ayrton sennas memorial. What a place

  • @Pluvillion
    @Pluvillion 5 років тому +15

    *_"The gate of Nivelles inspired him in 2003 to start a website about lost circuits._*
    *_The name?_*
    *_“Circuits of the Past!”"_*
    And with that, I immediately tapped on the subscribe button with no hesitation. That actually made me smile, not gonna lie.

  • @wobbler6372
    @wobbler6372 5 років тому +6

    Great video . Watched the whole thing . Hockenheim change was the biggest shame in f1 track history . Just think how much money they would be making now if they have kept it for historic races

  • @DYNANiK
    @DYNANiK 4 роки тому +2

    05:34 cool to see the beauty is coming back to some old circuits

  • @AlconburyBlues
    @AlconburyBlues Рік тому

    I love those shots of the classic Monza banking. One of my favorite GP tracks.

  • @theoanderson3575
    @theoanderson3575 5 років тому +190

    Rest in Peace Anthoine Hubert 💔🙏🏼

  • @6591del
    @6591del 5 років тому +8

    I love them old (proper) race circuits especially Hockenheim....think I`ll dig out the old Play Station and have a blast around it in a Ferrari, thanks for posting this I found it just by chance.

  • @dutchsailor6620
    @dutchsailor6620 5 років тому +4

    I remember racing the Nivelles circuit very well. It was in the beginning of the eighties and we were competing some races in the Dutch national competition series after a previous year with to many lethal accidents on Dutch road circuits (think Man style including curbs trees and houses to spice things up a little). Even then the buildings surrounding the track were almost falling apart and trees were growing in the grandstands. Track surface was horrible with the bike (Z900 based) bouncing around and understeering in the great loop. Those were the days my friends......

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      Bedankt voor het delen van dit verhaal. Ik heb ook gehoord dat ze in die tijd voor de afwisseling het circuit tegengesteld reden. Ik heb er zelfs een foto van. Die kun je hier zien: www.circuitsofthepast.nl/nl-NL/nivelles

    • @dutchsailor6620
      @dutchsailor6620 5 років тому +2

      @@Circuitsofthepast : That's right, the circuit itself wasn't very challenging except for the big loop (it just kept going on and on and on...), but because of the wide runoff areas and the possibility to ride the circuit in two directions combined with adding or leaving out chicanes you could drive a different kind of track every weekend. I only remember driving the track clockwise direction. Another tricky thing of the circuit was that you mostly heated up your slicks on the right side (driving clockwise) but leaving the big loop you needed all the grip you could get on the left side of the tires to accelerate out of the 130 degrees lefthander that followed. Some exciting memories there.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      I drove it only by car, but I remember the exit of the Big Loop. The short straight was just long enough to switch from the left to the right side and brake for the left-hander.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 2 роки тому +1

    WONDERFUL video.
    I really appreciate the effort you have put into it.
    Thank you.

  • @luclaan8165
    @luclaan8165 5 років тому +4

    I love these videos. There is a chill vibe around them.

  • @W00000000000000
    @W00000000000000 5 років тому +1

    That was an incredibly informative video,
    Enjoyed massively

  • @lateralg3169
    @lateralg3169 3 роки тому

    Well done and very interesting. Try and move the camera a bit slower though, I was getting dizzy. Great research.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 роки тому

      Thanks. Most footage was filmed with my old camera. Now I have a new camera with stabilisation.

  • @Kiba520
    @Kiba520 Рік тому +1

    Very nice Video. Thx!!

  • @mustang10141980
    @mustang10141980 5 років тому +1

    I just discovered this video. Great work sir! Instantly subscribed!

  • @FlyBoyGrounded
    @FlyBoyGrounded 3 роки тому

    I love this kind of thing. Thanks for posting!

  • @RC-tn7qs
    @RC-tn7qs 3 роки тому

    Very great video ; so thank's ! And for the tracks abandoned by the Fomula 1 ; there is (about my house, but who receive now the France Lorry Race : Charade - Clermont-Ferrand) ; & Jackie Stewart say : "It's the world's best circuit". Friendly Circuits of the past

  • @nickandrew1089
    @nickandrew1089 3 роки тому

    Would've liked to have seen the old Crystal Palace & Aintree circuits mentioned & shown on this post.
    Maybe you could do another video to include those historical circuits.
    Very interesting video though, thanks for posting.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 роки тому

      I visited both in 2018. Here the video's: ua-cam.com/video/s-GshhwG2Ec/v-deo.html
      This top 10 is more from the urbex perspective. Maybe I make another top 10 where these circuits are shown/

  • @lexuslfaguy3758
    @lexuslfaguy3758 5 років тому +5

    I love your channel about historical race track for f1 & other motorsports

  • @nathaliestarlight6372
    @nathaliestarlight6372 5 років тому +1

    The voiceover kept me watching this ❤

  • @glauberbelo9602
    @glauberbelo9602 5 років тому +1

    You did a great job doing this video man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @chrisbaker2903
    @chrisbaker2903 3 роки тому +4

    I remember attending races at Riverside Raceway in Southern California. IMHO it was a great track as good as any in Europe. It was a fully complete track and had been raced on for years and years. It's now a housing tract. That sucks.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 роки тому +2

      I agree, Riverside was a great track. In 2012 I visited the location. Unfortunately nothing reminds to the motorsport past of the site. See also this video: ua-cam.com/video/RGNToJaUhXU/v-deo.html

    • @bloqk16
      @bloqk16 2 роки тому +1

      The aspect I loved about Riverside was the ability of the drivers to go 'wheel to wheel' with competitors; unlike Laguna Seca, that while it is in a picturesque setting, sees race lead changes happen due to pit stops.

    • @terryjacob8169
      @terryjacob8169 5 місяців тому

      The Motor Trend 500 NASCAR races were the stuff of legends, particularly the 1966 running that saw an epic race long battle between Dan Gurney and the legendary Curtis Turner where, as one journalist ( Brock Yates I believe ) described them assaulting one another 'with everything bar a lead pipe'..........!!!!

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 5 років тому +17

    The current Tilke-Hockenheim is not Hockenheim. It's so far from the original and the most well known version with the long straigths through the woods with chicanes. Oh how I miss the 90s when Formula 1 cars sounded like race cars and screamed through the woods. The current Hockenheim and the current cars that sound more like vacuum cleaners are so boring compared to that.
    Thanks for the awesome video by the way! I did not know France had so many fancy looking tracks. It actually makes me wonder even more why the current French GP is on Paul Rickard which is also a very boring track. I would love to see Magny-Cours return...

  • @snakeoilaudio
    @snakeoilaudio 2 роки тому +3

    What's IMO most interesting about these old tracks (even those that still exist like Monza or Hockenheim) is that back in the days they were basically straight lines and had just very few sharp corners or banked corners. That means that the divers of those times had even less influence than they have today because with these kinds of tracks, whoever has the most powerful engine wins.

    • @bloqk16
      @bloqk16 2 роки тому

      The powerful engine aspect was on full-display at the 1967 Italian Grand Prix with Jim Clark driving the Lotus 49 with the Cosworth DFV engine.
      A flat tire had him falling wwwaaayyy back; only to have him go through the field and build up a 30 second lead going into the last lap, only to lose with his car running out of fuel.
      That was a full-display of how dominant the DFV engine was in 1967 when nothing broke in that Lotus.
      The advantages the Brabham team had in 1967 was the the lightness of the car and engine reliability.

  • @TracksideViews
    @TracksideViews Рік тому

    I drove around the original (pre permanent track) course through Watkins Glen last year and it was amazing to think racing took place on those roads. I can only imagine that’s how some of these feel when driving on them.

  • @lauscho
    @lauscho 5 років тому +4

    Frankly, having those old layouts of Hockenheimring, Spa-Francorchamps and Monza (as well as a couple other classic track layouts like the 60s version of Silverstone) is one of my favourite things about Project Cars 2!

  • @FlavioSpirit
    @FlavioSpirit 5 років тому +5

    Que dor no meu coração ver esses templos da velocidade, abandonados dessa maneira......
    Muito triste......
    Mas muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal......
    Abraço do Brasil......

  • @thehooks3065
    @thehooks3065 5 років тому

    Fascinating video. Well done!

  • @gaelsebastiani2198
    @gaelsebastiani2198 2 роки тому

    I loved Bremgarten and the old Monza track. But when you speak about old Monza track, do you mean the Monza track used for the Monza Grand Prix held between 1929 & 1952? Or the one used for Italian Grand Prix? Thanks and nice videos love it! Excellent.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 роки тому

      Speaking about old Monza we mean the 10 Km long combination of the oval and the road circuit. There have been several variants on the layout, but basically, we mean the full track.

  • @wernerschneider4460
    @wernerschneider4460 5 років тому +1

    Very interesting for a motorsports-buff like me. Great work.

  • @ОлегМищенко-т7л
    @ОлегМищенко-т7л 5 років тому +1

    Thank you very much for your content. good luck with your channel

  • @sbatty65227
    @sbatty65227 3 роки тому

    Used to love F1 at the old Hockenheim circuit. The blast through the woods was ace to watch.

  • @Lebenslicht_eu
    @Lebenslicht_eu 2 роки тому

    Really nice presentation! Thank you.

  • @dylanzrim3635
    @dylanzrim3635 3 роки тому +1

    Hockenheim was the beginning of the FIA changing tracks. Though the track management were the ones who commissioned the work, it was that work which started the trend of altering tracks, and the FIA just happened to choose the same guy

  • @firenerf2197
    @firenerf2197 3 роки тому

    “The name?”
    “Circits Of The Past!”
    And with that I IMMEDIATELY clicked the subscribe button.

  • @knowlesy3915
    @knowlesy3915 5 років тому

    Thank you that Mayor of Rheims & the trust, it looks great & I wish more places honoured their former tracks better. (when possible)

  • @Wingyy1995
    @Wingyy1995 5 років тому +18

    surprised Südschleife wasn't on the list
    but guess F1 didn't really race that part of the track

    • @terryjacob8169
      @terryjacob8169 5 місяців тому

      The 1960 German GP, which was a non-World Championship race for F2 cars, was held on the Sudschleife. Compared with the modern F1 Nurburgring circuit it was an absolutely brilliant 'proper' road-racing circuit, ie not a mickey mouse, glorified kart track

  • @vheggem
    @vheggem 5 років тому +3

    Great job as usual.

  • @Ndjx3
    @Ndjx3 3 роки тому

    Very interesting!
    Have you ever considered approaching Xbox or Playstation to propose the incorporation of these memorable old tracks to the roster of tracks available for racing on their platforms?
    I'm sure there is a ton of info you could provide them. Imagine a Forza Motorsport - Lost Circuits Edition.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 роки тому +1

      If they interested they may contact me :) Years ago I cooperated with a guy who made tracks for GPL.

  • @YuriBruschi
    @YuriBruschi 5 років тому +8

    With Simon's comment on the images, the video is truly cultural!

    • @HigherPlainGames
      @HigherPlainGames 5 років тому +3

      Let's hope I said all the names correctly haha :)

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +2

      Actually no hahaha ;) But the audience understands what you mean.

  • @LoneWolf-wp9dn
    @LoneWolf-wp9dn 5 років тому +1

    The Montjuic is still used in bicycle racing... most often in the tur de catalunya... the tour often finishes there

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      Yeah I have seen cyclists there on TV, doing a lap on the track before they finish.

  • @jordanhoeben6583
    @jordanhoeben6583 5 років тому +2

    I really enjoyed this video, glad to see people appreciating classic tracks, but I think a track that needs to be re-looked is Kyalami, South Africa.
    My home country, the classic layout was pretty awesome but the new one is just as amazing, there were a few incidents back in the day with driver Tom Pryce being killed when a young South African Marshall was crossing the track ("illegally") and Pryce was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher but after about 1985 (probably wrong) or something the owner of the circuit could not keep the South African Grand Prix running.
    But hopefully in the next few years we can have it back!!!😍😁🇿🇦

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      When I ever visit South Africa I will visit Kyalami. I heard there are some parts of the old circuit left. Is that right?

    • @hughcoetzer5036
      @hughcoetzer5036 5 років тому

      we will never host a F1 again !!!!! this country is going the way of zimbabwe nothing will be the same again

    • @stadleroux
      @stadleroux 5 років тому +1

      Circuits of the past, I doubt there's anything left of the original Kyalami, but if there is it would probably be pretty unrecognisable, as the layout has been changed a number of times since we last had a GP there.

  • @Katejsej
    @Katejsej 8 місяців тому +1

    It is crazy how you visited all these countries.

  • @pilotthomas144
    @pilotthomas144 3 роки тому

    Super vidéo! Really love it! Thanks !

  • @eddherring4972
    @eddherring4972 5 років тому +66

    The word for Hockenheim is emasculated

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +16

      Or travesty. That's what I also heard many times about Hockenheim.

    • @ilikestuffandstuff4127
      @ilikestuffandstuff4127 5 років тому

      De-balled.

    • @incorectulpolitic
      @incorectulpolitic 5 років тому

      just like married men and men in relationshits...

    • @willb3486
      @willb3486 4 роки тому

      @@incorectulpolitic sounds like you can't find yourself a woman

  • @ktmpasser
    @ktmpasser 3 роки тому

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @stevenroland7472
    @stevenroland7472 5 років тому

    Nice Video but historic clips of the tracks would have been a nice reference point. Notice how all the changes before 1990 were to make the track faster and after to slow them up.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +1

      Yes that would be interesting, but there are copyrights on these old videos. So I can't use them, however there are channels who do. But I don't want to risk a copyright strike from UA-cam.

  • @shayneramsay1388
    @shayneramsay1388 5 років тому +5

    The old Hockenheim was a brilliant track and my favorite on my F1 gaming calendar even being Australian I preferred it over the Adelaide and the newer Albert Park in Melbourne

    • @shayneramsay1388
      @shayneramsay1388 5 років тому

      @Cini minis I remember hearing about Port Wakefield but never really saw anything of the track or what it was even shaped like

  • @GrrMeister
    @GrrMeister 5 років тому +7

    11:10 *Belgian GP Circuit 1961 - I remember this well, after watching the Grand Prix Race sitting within inches of the track at Malmedy, after the road reopened did a circuit in my then Car the Fabulous Citroën DS19 and was absolutely amazed how quick they got around the track, I had to change down gears at many of the steep uphill sections. There looked to be a Thunderstorm Brewing so decided to leave and drove all night with my mates quietly sleeping away to Salzburg (no 3) where I had no idea of a Race Track being there, but bought an amusing metal plaque "Actung Sheifer Hund" I still have it today as have two Chihuahuas !*

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your story. In the 90's I visited the Belgian GP too. After the race the track went also open for traffic those day's. So in the evening I went back and drove some laps on the old track. And sometimes also on the new section, but this was actually illegal. In 2017 I visited the Salzburgring and made this slow onboard: ua-cam.com/video/fXVlx4WDPRI/v-deo.html

  • @sparcosimracer902
    @sparcosimracer902 4 роки тому

    Many thanks for this video...You missed Linas-Montlhery where GP & endurance races took places from 1923 to the early 90'..

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 роки тому

      This video is about lost F1 tracks and Linas-Monthlhéry never hosted an F1 race and is still operational and almost complete. In 2017 I visited Linas-Monthlhéry. Here the footage: ua-cam.com/video/-PC_l5UIW9I/v-deo.html

  • @Rackhage
    @Rackhage 5 років тому +3

    Nice video! Thanks!

  • @searchforthelight.3287
    @searchforthelight.3287 2 роки тому

    I love these small, abandoned sections, that they not even used for public roads. Thickly surrounded by all these bushes and trees!
    So old...so peaceful and quiet...

  • @GrrMeister
    @GrrMeister 5 років тому +5

    *A rather Glaring Omission was **_Donington Park Circuit (UK)_** where Pre War 2 (39-45) races were held, and I presume right on your doorstep. This is thriving today, and was used as the European GP (wet race with Senna winning in April 1993 where I watched with awe) Unfortunately it failed to meet standards after spending enormous amounts to be accepted as a modern F1 circuit, and is now held at very difficult to reach Silverstone, near Towcester. The road infrastructure is totally unable to handle GP traffic and it took me more than an hour to leave car park after the race in 2019.*

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      Well, it's actually not on my doorstep, because I'm from the Netherlands. However, I visited Donington Park last year, including the lost part of the Melbourne Loop: ua-cam.com/video/eGy3kRLonQQ/v-deo.html

    • @GrrMeister
      @GrrMeister 5 років тому

      @@Circuitsofthepast *Amazing went to the MotoGP with 2 friends from The Netherlands who stayed with me over the weekend. (from Harmelen)*

  • @lowproscrumbum
    @lowproscrumbum 5 років тому +13

    Love the old Scirocco!

  • @psodq
    @psodq 8 місяців тому

    Here in Finland a legendary race-track was Keimola. Abandoned a long time ago, the area became forested. Now there's high-rise housing with the streets somewhat matching the original track.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  8 місяців тому

      Yes I know Keimola. Mika Häkkinen started his carreer there on the kart track. It is also presented in one of my videos: ua-cam.com/video/zcziY7-uKAA/v-deo.html

  • @kevinnash851
    @kevinnash851 5 років тому

    Really a good video.... I appreciate your efforts for the videos

  • @ricardolossoricardolosso8903
    @ricardolossoricardolosso8903 5 років тому +1

    Nice job mate, pretty fun and nostalgic to watch

  • @jayd2517
    @jayd2517 5 років тому +23

    Hockenhiem is a prime example of a ruined circuit. I get that they felt that it needed to be modernized but they went way too far. I felt at the time and even more so now that the old part should have been left or just used like the old Nurburgring is now.

    • @AJZulu
      @AJZulu 5 років тому

      I agree.

    • @teppo9585
      @teppo9585 5 років тому

      I´m glad to see many feel the same about Hockenheim as I. Only thing I would have changed of the old version was the first chicane, it seemed an unnecessary disruption to the flow of the lap.

  • @ICKY427
    @ICKY427 5 років тому

    i LOVE learning about and seeing historic racing tracks. the older the better. something about standing on that hallowed ground where, long ago, the most exciting and dangerous racing took place. drivers back then really ran the ragged edge without fear of the almost inevitable consequences. i think the only thing missing from the video (aside from sudshliefe) is some pictures of the old "wall of death" wooden banked corner on avus.
    i live in charlotte, nc, so for me, there is a lot of history near by of nascar's glory days. i also recently learned of a 1.25 mile wooden high banked oval that was built in 1924 for indy racing, the FIRST "charlotte speedway".

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      Thank you. The Südschleife was never used for F1, so that's why it is not in this video. But I visited it several times. Here a video: ua-cam.com/video/5Tub0XGA5uI/v-deo.html

  • @ccrider3435
    @ccrider3435 2 роки тому +1

    1:38 VW Rabbits?
    Great Vid Thx!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 роки тому +1

      You're welcome. There are always many rabits at Nivelles. Check also the latest video from Nivelles: ua-cam.com/video/ymh1iQlJjfk/v-deo.html

  • @Benjamin_Jehne
    @Benjamin_Jehne 5 років тому +4

    Can‘t forget those screaming engines at Hockenheim in the 90s. I loved that track. I don’t watch races on the new version of the track. It’s a horrible, dead race track like most of the Tielke-tracks. His only good race track is Sepang.

  • @mattkaustickomments
    @mattkaustickomments 4 роки тому +1

    Avus: So weird to see an empty grandstand slapped up against a busy highway. Also, now I know where the AUDI Avus show car from the ‘90s got its name. Thanks!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 роки тому

      Many people who didn't know about the AVUS are wondered about the grandstand along the highway near Berlin. You can see that in the statistics of Google. People find my AVUS article on the website with the search phrase "grandstand on autobahn near berlin" :)
      Yes Audi named a model after this race track, like more models are named afer a race track like the Bentley Brooklands.

  • @vefos09h85
    @vefos09h85 4 роки тому

    Very cool and interesting video. Keep going👍

  • @reptongeek
    @reptongeek 5 років тому +3

    I actually went to Spa Francorchamps in 2000 just when the circuit became permanent and you couldn't drive on it. I did drive on the old part looking for the Plain Vent restaurant (where the Jordan team celebrated it's first victory)

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      I visited the Belgian GP several times in the 90's. Those days you could after the race drove the full lap on the old track. And even the new section was accessible, but that was illegal.

    • @reptongeek
      @reptongeek 5 років тому

      I think I did actually see one year that ticket holders walking down Kemmel Straight, so I believe today you can walk a lap of the track after the race

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      @@reptongeek That was already in the 90's. Immediately after the race they opened the fences and leave the spectators on the track. Then we walked over the track to the pitlane. I remember in 1994 a drunk idiot took a fire extinguisher from a marshall post and sprayed extinguishing powder on the track. Sometimes there were also cars left, while the spectators were already on the track. Once there was a Sauber surrounded by safety guards. Later I heard they were there because people go sit in the car for a picture.

  • @billfunk3168
    @billfunk3168 5 років тому

    Enjoyed your video !

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  5 років тому

      Thank you! Good to read that you enjoyed the video :)

  • @theeaselrider4032
    @theeaselrider4032 5 років тому +3

    Pretty much any circuit that Hermann Tilke has touched, he has ruined.
    Most of those earlier circuits I knew nothing about, but the top 5 were all familiar.
    Thank you, very informative.

  • @markoarkaina8656
    @markoarkaina8656 5 років тому

    Really interesting, you've just earned a sub.

  • @firemanfred9471
    @firemanfred9471 5 років тому +2

    Does Kayalami in South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🏎🏎🏎 form part of your journalism...?
    That circuit was one of the favorites amongst the drivers. There was a GP Masters that had most of the Master Drivers. It has been recently refurbished to Porsche standards.. spread the news, let's get racing..🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦