Bobcat Timing Belt Repair. Does Your Bobcat Skid Steer Have A Timing Belt? Bobcat 863 or 873 service
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Bobcat loaders equipped with the Deutz engine has a timing belt that should be changed every 3000 hours or every 5 years. The Deutz engine is an interference engine and if the timing belt breaks then the engine can suffer internal damage.
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At 17:40 and 22:15 you mention a measurement of 3.5. What units is that in? Thanks for the videos. They are helping me a lot.
You were talking about what type videos are liked better. Personally, I enjoy and learn from every video you create. You are a wealth of knowledge and I appreciate everything you share. I'm refurbishing a Bobcat S300 , and can use all the help and ideas you can dish out. Thank you for what you do. Very appreciated.👍
Wow, thank you
I actually also have an S300 that I just bought. 5500 hrs and needs some TLC.
I just replaced one of the parking brake discs, now the entire bobtach needs to be rebuilt. Good luck with yours.
@@coledogger2227 I have the bobtach issue also, plus two drive chains, two drive sprockets with cracked welds I'm rewelding , plus other issues. It was badly neglected. I hope it was a good investment.
Good luck on your project also.
I just bought an A220 that rear left sprocket bolt worked it’s way against right sprocket bolt causing chain to fall off? Any suggestions before I remove the whole wheel and axle assembly? Thanks.
The how to video's are really really helpful. I like the tips you offer. You really help all us rookie mechanics a lot and take some of the fear away from trying things. Honestly I like both general and more in depth. More in depth because you make it very interesting and easy understand how things work. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
Bobcat S650 carrier seals I did! ua-cam.com/video/PZgyYH1fjPM/v-deo.html
This guy is one of the best! Great video. Very professional. Good camera views. I found this extremely helpful.
Wow, that was a great training session. Finished off with great tips at the end. Some lucky guy is going to get a great machine that will be ready to go!
I bet the majority of your subscribers are backyard/garage mechanics working on their own equipment. I think this channel would hugely benefit from more structured content. Such as: SYMPTOM description, DIAGNOSIS process steps, PROBLEM CORRECTION education! Love your stuff.
Thanks for the feedback, that is useful information.
Great video. Always nice to see another person's way of doing something.
There's how to videos then there's knowledge videos. You get 10/10 👏
I'm slowly working my way through all your videos. Appreciate them all.
As someone who owns a couple of T300's, all your videos are so helpful. Thank you.
Another great video!
I have an 863 and an 873 that both need the timing belts replaced. I’ll be doing them this winter with the help of this video.
Many thanks!
I wish my 873 was that clean. Great video. Thanks
Another really good video! I enjoy all of your content, general maintenence and major repairs, keep them coming. When I worked at the airport I did many timing belt exchanges just like the one you did in this video, I still have the pins in my toolbox waiting to be used. Thank you and God bless.
Love your channel man ! Would love to see how you perform a compression test on this engine in particular. I will be working on my 863 this weekend!
I Love watching your how to videos on the Track Loaders and wheeled loaders, starting to work on a John Deere track loader with a bad Final Drive, keep up the how to videos on these machines. Great Job!!!!
I have a s250 I’m getting ready to do the timing belt. It has over 4100 hrs and previous owner couldn’t tell me when belt was changed. I heard your supposed to pull front injector out and find top end center but you didn’t have to do that step. Good to know. Thank you for your videos
I have an 873 that is overdue for a timing belt. I feel comfortable to attempt to do the belt myself.
Awesome wish I found this back in Oct (ya I know it was done in Nov). Yours is the best and most concise explanation I've found. Thank you very much
The im depth troubleshooting tips and tricks are always helpful. I have gone back and watched your videos when doing some of my own repair since you are very detailed and have great tips
I ran across this article after viewing this video To time the crankshaft correctly, first, remove the fuel injector closest to the front of the engine. Now rotate the engine, by hand, until this front cylinder piston is at top dead center. Caution: be care full not to find TDC on the #1 cylinder. The #1 cylinder is located closest to the rear of the engine. You must find TDC on the front cylinder only (the cylinder closest to the front crankshaft pulley.) Is that the reverse of what you said.. I have just purchased a 863 1999 year and an interested.
Thanks for the informative video. I have to start working on a 863 for the sawmill I work at. I'm going to do timing belt, filters, check for leaks then go through it and see what else is wrong. Hopefully nothing too bad.
Really cool video. I bought one of these bad boy with only 200 hours. Had bobcat dealer change that belt and I replaced that lift pump myself because it was going out. Great tips.
Appreciate the useful tips at the end, I've been told these engines will go 20,000-30,000hrs, I've personally never put over 8k on any equipment engine so I'm pretty stoked with that info. Also this deutz is very efficient on fuel, uses half the fuel my last skidsteer did with a different 82hp turbo, that's what sold me on the 6640 gehl.
Thanks for these great video’s
They are extremely helpful, I have a 2007 T300 that needs a pump shaft seal. cant wait to see more videos. Thanks for your hard work
just came across your channel and I love the video!
Thanks for watching!
Is there a video on changing fuel injectors at all. These videos are full of information and extremely helpful.
Had to pull one at work this week, I almost sound like I know what I'm doing because of this video.
Extremely helpful!
Thanks for help, I'm fixing to do one on a gehl and my moter is straight, just have to remove oil cooler, fan and battery and face of moter is exposed to back of machine, that looks challenging with that sideways moter
Great info to keep the 863 running! You mention 3.5 and them 6 to 9 for the tension. The tensioner that you have a link to starts at 30 lbs. Please teel me how these number relate?
Never mind, I found answer below. Final tension should be between 100 to 120 lbs or 500 to 530 newtons
This ruined Deutz reputation .. I had a few JLG and machines break belts .
Yet the old Deutz ran forever gear drive cams.
I also had one Deutz run away from fuel in oil due to leaking fuel lift pump diaphragm .
Watch for oil level rising or it will run away spewing oil like a geyser throw a rod from high rpm .
Excellent video 👍
like the maintenance videos so I don't have to rebuild . Thank you very much !!!!!
Great to hear!
Excellent video! Thank you!
Very good video! Can you make other video how to set crankshaft and camshaft if the timing belt has been broken?
Great suggestion!
Great video please continue making them very useful!!!!!
Best camera shots I have seen for what I would consider one of the hardest machines to film (or work) on due to spacing. My job did not go well. I got the tools and did the work but it looks like I bent the fuel rack. I have investigated how to remove that but have not started as I don't know what bent the rack. The unknown I have is that right near (in the way) of the belt tensioning tool, there is a multifaceted set screw/bolt aperatus 'linked' to an stud with a nut on it by a claw. When I got my cover off the lower adjusting/set aperatus (the whole thing, not just the set screw) was four turns out from the cover/block and the claw was broken in half (both arms still in position). I tried to put it back as it was but hard to tell given it was partually detached. What is this and adjuster for and could it have damaged my rack in not adjusted properly? It was running fine prior to timming belt replacement. It runs now, but only a poor idle, throttle movement does not change RPM. Rack does not move from inspection hole. Checked timing with method from service manual and I am at one turn, inside the 3/4 to 2.5 turns specified. Help?
Perfect teacher
Hey I’m glad I found your channel, lots of useful information. Im going to check my dip stick now as I have an 863 with an intermittent overheating problem. Ive replaced the thermostat and flushed the oil cooler and still every so often it gets up to the 260 range. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Usually the thermostat is to blame if the cooler has good internal flow and the cooling fins are clean and in good condition. Sometimes the hydraulic system can be building heat making it harder for the engine to cool.
I know my comment is a year later, but my 2 cents is please keep the post n depth stuff especially the diag stuff coming!!
Great video on timing belt. Thanks
If you ever get a chance to do a fuel rail replacment, I think that would be a popular video.
Thanks for the great help it really works!!!👍👍👍
Your work is amazing. Thank you Sir.
Thanks great video I have a Gehl 6640 e with same engine only difference is have to take radiator out to get to timing belt pain in the neck
I have the same skid and about to do the same thing. Any tips? The crank access hole looks real fun to look down since ours are longitudinal! Plus I’m super pumped to drain all of the hydro fluid I just replaced.
Great teacher! Thanks !
Thanks for a great video, but I dont have the confidence to do the engine belt. How long does it take the dealer to do this belt? The only real trouble that I have had is the small rubber return lines. The one that you get at the dealerships are not what they used to be. They leak quickly and I had to replace many times. I ordered new lines from a injection company that the rubber was thicker and had more protection on the outside. I haven't had to replace these little lines since, and they are also less expensive than the dealer. Thanks for the info about the engine belt.
Dealer should be able to do a timing belt in about 3 hours total.
I’m trying to torque my cam bolt to 210° I can only get a little over 90° and I probably got 200 foot pounds of torque I’m getting a little nervous I was hoping to see you tightening the one on that machine but it got edited out How much torque do you think you’re putting on that bolt when you once you hit 210°?
Excellent video, thank you very much, I just bought a similar machine and the belt broke, I don't know what damage it caused or how to put it back on time! If you have any advice I would appreciate it!
thank u
When you say you set the belt tension at 3.5 is that 3.5 newtons? (Using the belt tension gauge from the Amazon link)
Used to have a 98’ 863. I loved that machine, I agree those old deutz were amazing engines. Then they went to Kubota which I also loved, they are amazing engines. Why did they stop using them and start making their own? I’ve run quite a few 595’s and I just don’t like the way those engines run. What do you think?
I work on Bobcat machines also. Could I contact you directly? You do a good job presenting your videos.
Absolutely, I'll do my best to help if I can. My email is in my about section, that's how most people contact me. Thanks for the comment!
I like all the videos, just found & subscribed & plan on watching & liking more Thanks a bunch fer sharing !!!
Just watched this video, if you’re using the otc version belt gauge what would thr equivalent be on it compared to the bobcat tool
Great stuff from 🇮🇪
The belt tensioner listed is not the same as you use, the scale is different and it doesn't fit in the small area
Great video should helps out a lot, just one question I have , my oil pump is not working so should i lock out chank and cam to change it.
Thanx...you are the best
Got the same setup in my 864 but I did not loosen the cam pulley when installing the new belt.
Can you do a video on fuel system diagnostics on the 873? I have one that turns over for an extended period and puffs white smoke before finally starting.
Have you ever seen one with a bent fuel rail? It runs good with screwdriver against the spring in the fuel shutoff selananoid.
The fuel rack can be bent if someone tried to install injection pumps without pinning the rack and pumps first. I've also seen the governor weights damaged and will not allow the rack to move unless forced. A pump could also be sticking not allowing the governor to control the rack.
Great Video! Do you know the measurement the belt gauge you use is reading? 3.5 what? I would like to use my kent moore timing belt gauge.
I am wondering the same. I have a Kent-Moore J-36018 gage and it reads in LBS and nwts
Can anyone give the proper belt tension in LBS or nwts ?
Thank you so much your videos are real help
very good video help a lot can i change the oil pump at the same time whith no problem
Very helpful you do a great job
Great tips
Thank you ❤
Could you give me all measurements of those timing pins? I'm figuring out to make ones for myself with a lathe. Thanks!
AWESOME videos !!! Thanks SO much!!!!
Thanks Very Much for another great video .
Your information is awesome! I have a Gehl with a deutz and this greatly improved my understanding of the process, I am about to change it out along with the fuel pump. My buddy has a bobcat I send him your videos and he appreciates it also. My gehls fuel pump has a primer and I see your does not, how do you prime it after breaking into the fuel system? Does bobcat have a hand pump on a line? Thanks again very very much appreciated!
Thanks for the comment. Yes Bobcat has an inline primer bulb you squeeze to prime the fuel.
What is the 90 and 120 degree marks on the pulley for, great video tks
I wish you were to change the timing belt on an 863 Cause I don't know how you could reach the crunchshot stopped pinned on that you can't reach it from the back side of the motor and a dipstick thing I'm gonna have to did that with the fuel with the fuel pump the lift pump If you ever get 863 then do one stuff on it Is Oxford
Hi
So my belt ripped off and bent a few rods so just wondering if you got a video of how to set the valves, Thanks
Great video ))) Thank you!
Thanks again, is there an easy way for me to check the condition of the timing belt, without taking off the front cover? My machine is not at 3K hours but it is 20 years old. Given its condition, I am guessing it was not ever done. Given it took you under an hour for this service, it is probably not too expensive of job for the dealer to perform, I just wanted to get an idea of its condition to see if I should be doing this sooner than later. Looking for future videos on this engine! The previous owner of my machine bypassed its fuel filter, probably a indication I need to replace that fuel pump, plus my oil looked a little high...
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Hi, just wondering if you can share why the Cam pulley has to be loosened and adjusted? Belt wear? Thank-you so much!
When tightening the belt tensioner you want to loosen the cam pulley so the belt is not pulling the cam in one direction or the other. If you don't loosen the cam pulley when tightening the belt, the cam could move when you pull the pins. Just helps keep everything perfectly in time. Hope that makes sense.
@@tetradgroup Yes, it does! Thank-you so much, your videos are invaluable!
Thank you for sharing
Just came across your channel and I just got a 873. What type of hydraulic fluid is acceptable it's hard to find Thank You.
Great videos! Please share where you got the timing belt gauge and pins
Thank you so much, I have links in the video description for all the parts and tools to do the job. Most everything can be found on Amazon.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the support!
Where is the thermostat on these deutz engines I have a 2000 bobcat 864
Great content
Thank you
@howididit i purchased a palfinger forklift deutz f4l1011f engine in it, i changed timing belt kit, push rods, fuel shut off solenoid. Without moving the forklift, it cranked and started Hard, like stall when cold, after a minutes it would ran fine. I fixed an oil leak and rolled it in my yard and After a 5 min trial, it stopped, cranked again and started, ran 30 ft and stopped again, since then it crank and no start. Seems that when it got Hot, it died. What do you suggest to look for?
Hello I appreciate your video and wanted to ask how can a find a way to see the market value for skid steers like Kelly blue book type site? I’m looking to get one of these and trying not to get ripped off. I’m looking at a 1999 Bobcat skid steer 743 right now on FB
VERY GOOD U R THE BEST
Why does tension read tighter after turning engine over?
Great video!
Great video! Thanks
Do you have a video on linkage adjustments?
Not yet but will soon
@@tetradgroup great content. Also how do you keep your machine so clean
Awesome information thanks ......thought it was Kermit the frog taking out the tensioner pulley when I first saw it
Glad it helped
Thank you...
Have you had any issues with the Deutz motors and their oil pans? I worked on an 873 where the motor mount sagged a bunch. With a little luck, a rock or some sort of crap got stuck under the pan. Eventually it wore a hole through it. Either way...Great Video!
Thanks for the comment. That's a common issue, not only on the Deutz but most of the other engines as well. And it's not only a Bobcat issue it happens on kubota, caterpillar, etc.
Great Video! I Just bought a 03 T200 With 3800 hours so any content about the Deutz is great! I recently replaced a final drive so the machine sat for about 2 months while waiting for parts and time to complete the job. It ran fine when when parked but now it cranks for a few seconds than stops. It Throws the code 22-03. The machine sat over night and tried it again now it throws the 22-03 and 04-22 any suggestions on a path of diagnosis?
04-22 is engine oil pressure out of range, 22-03 is starter error off. There are two small wire terminals on the starter, the one closest to the rear door is the return signal the controller is looking for. I would check that wire first. Then probably try a new starter relay. Also check the RPM sensor in the bell housing and make sure it's not damaged.
@@tetradgroup Awesome, this is very helpful and I really appreciate the response! I’m going to check into those things today.
Great video ...I have an 873 with the duetz and i think it sounds like it is miss firing ...could it be an injector problem ...how best to clean them ...or valves need adjustment....any suggestions
First check the timing belt, then I would crack each individual fuel injector line one at a time while engine is running to try to isolate a cylinder. If you find a suspect cylinder swap injectors to another cylinder and see if problem follows injector. No good way to clean injectors other than have rebuilt at your local injection shop.
Do you have to find dead stop on the cylinders? And also i have the other gauge the has ft lb’s where would i start off the ft lbs at?
Cool Good Job!
I have the problem with the little pieces breaking off the dipstick. I probably lay lost a full circle. Anything I can do ?
Not really, just hope for the best short of tearing down the engine. Make sure you have good oil pressure.
How does a person get in contact with you for questions if that's all right
We will be doing a live Q and A tomorrow on UA-cam starting at 4:00 pm mountain time. More in depth questions or trouble shooting may need to be one on one which can be scheduled at www.4tetradgroup.com