Magic, like everything else, has two sides; the dark and light. And because something is dark, doesn't mean it's evil, it just corrupts more easily. It depends on the user. If they're weak willed, they'll fall to temptation like Sunset, Sombra, or Starlight Glimmer. If they're strong willed they'll stay strong like Twilight.
Let me explain: Magic isn't evil, but it isn't good either. My theory is that "light" magic isn't good and that "dark" magic isn't evil. However, the "light" warps a pony's mind to believe that the "dark" is evil. And the "dark" usually always corrupts those who attempt to use it (Ex. Sombra, NMM's essence). Unless, of course, their soul is pure. After all, we've seen people with dark magic be good guys and light magic be bad guys in other shows, books, etc. Magic isn't good or evil, it depends on the *USER*.
I was all focused and enjoying your alternate view on the role magic, and then you went and said "friendship speeches," and all I could think of was the parallels MLP:FiM has with Yu-Gi-Oh. You replace magic with the "heart of the cards" and you get the same stuff coming out of the Mane Sixes out of Yugi/Yami and the rest of gang. ...That actually would be a fun video, now that I think about it!
#CannedCream it would be nice if you could do a part two for this theory on evil magic. I have a few ideas that could be of some use. Like in "Princess Twilight" zecora gives twilight a potion that had to be activated with "Alicorn" magic, but was instead activated with "Dark" magic.. why is that? and maybe other instances where evil/dark magic was present that weren't touched upon or now shown in mlp.
My headcanon is that the cutiemarks became a necessity after the War with the Draconiqui screwed up the natural balance of the world to the point that every pony had to know their place to help repair it over time.
Ooo! I've got somethin' for ya, CC! On the topic of Starlight, and how she can control time, maybe she pulled a Ms Peregrine (From Ms Peregrine's Home For Peculiar Children) and created a time loop where she could study her spell without aging. Just a 24 hour loop of her studying. Think about *that,* CC.
exactly why do YOU not have a cutie mark? HUH????? OHH so ANOTHER mystery!! CUTIE MARK CRUESARDS... GO!!!!!!!! time to find the lost cutie mark of cannedcream!!
Love all your magic vids, this one no exception. But anyways, I have a villain OC who has powerful enough magic to drastically alter probability. Yeah, sounds like fun. Luckily she's a villain.
hey i found something creepy in mlp. when applejack was chew on her hooves. should was biting off some of her skin. and when you see her do that when she biting down it mushy like a hand
Even though it's fan made, a good example of equestria not being able to be saved by magic, is my little portal episode 5 : heart of darkness. It's basically the story of the fall of canterlot.
Magic is the cause and solution of every problem in Equestria. Every problem can be said to have been both caused and solved by something or other, like differing ideologies, advanced weaponry, or just plain people. It doesn't mean we should we should get rid of the thing in question.
First of all I like your videos. And I'm not completely sure if magic can be a bad thing for equestria or not... Maybe we'll have to watch more of the show...
Honestly, If I see it's night time while it's supposed to be noon at school, I'm running like hell. If all that stuff about dangerous magic leaking into other worlds is true, humanity's screwed. And like in Equestria Girls, when Sunset Shimmer got ahold of that crown, she turned dark, if smaller yet more powerful elements of magic were passed through other dimensions, such as the Alicorn amulet, or even that magic comic book of Spike's, who knows what could happen? The universes could clash or something, and mlp villains enter our world, just imagine the things that could happen to the world? Even if some of that magic is supposedly good, it's like you said, magic in Equestria can destroy a pony or other creature's life physically, mentally, and in their destiny. That's some pretty scary stuff.
Well just think on the bright side CC, you don’t have a cutie mark for her to take anyway! Also, I don’t either on my channel. I was inspired but too late to make my own channel of theories on MLP, but I’ll still do my best to catch up with the other MLP theorizers! Thanks for inspiring me and all of us!
Hey, cannedcream! Who is your favourite pony in the whole show, well, exept luna. I LOVE Starlight Glimmer and your video has made me think otherwise! OMG!!! SHE COULD MAKE EVERYPONY TALENTLESS!!! OMG OMG OMG!!!
Well maybe Starlight Glimmer isn't as young as we think... I mean think about it if she was powerful enough to remove a cutie mark she used a more powerful version of the age spell Trixie used causing her to change her age completely...
I think that when the history of Equestria started magic was out of balance. So that is why all the evil beings could (And did) try to destroy equestria. Now that ponies have developed and learned more, that doesn't mean that dark magic is gone. Anyway, all the bits of dark magic we have seen from the show were basically special cases. The average pony probably doesn't deal with dark magic. So, if you jitsu took magic away, Equestrian society would crumble. (Though now that I think about it, that would be an epic 2 parter.) Magic is what their works is built on. Sure there is the bits of dark magic, but that doesn't magic all together should be taken away. Thanks for reading!
I have to say Fallout Equestria is pretty much the ultimate SHTF scenario when it comes to magic fucking up the world. And as they say, "The portal to Tartarus is opened with the incantation of good intentions".
Ooh! Time for a song! Cuz rainbows won't light up the sky unless you let it rain! And shiny apples sometimes come with worms! Oh you can't give up your magic cuz you're scared of a little pain. Sometimes you've gotta let it BBUURRRNNN!!!!
2:33 I think counting the secret of my excess is kind of unfair because it wasn't really a misuse of magic, it was just a problem that was caused by Spike being a dragon and dragon biology which doesn't really count as magic exactly.
I think there is two types of magic: regular magic and dark magic. For example, in the season 4 finale, after the princesses gave their magic to Twilight to hide from Terik, the black splotch of Luna's cutie mark didn't disappear. My theory says that the black splotch represents the dark magic she used when she was Nightmare Moon. And that Terik doesn't take dark magic. Dark magic is more powerful than regular magic, but causes side effects; like insanity, transformations, etc. And that regular magic is in every living thing. But, some living things have dark magic instead; like Sombra. And Discord and Chrysalis has both types of magic.
Everything you have said is very true, but I'd like to point out that magic replaces most technology in their world, and we are also having problems with technology (magic) like hackers (evil ponies using magic in a bad way) or its working the right way, but something wasn't put together right, like a glitch in a game or software. (Rarity and the weird magic spell book... Thingy... I have no idea) or having another app Improve another one, like giving you cheats and changing how a game works, like Minecraft PE and the app Plug PE (Trixie and the alicorn amulet) Hope you can read this and understand what I'm saying! Thanks!
What I want to know is where she got that cutie mark spell anyway, she is just a civilian, are the princesses so lax that they let these spells be learned by anypony? I mean there was a REFORMING spell in a PUBLIC library
Just as the Night and the Day all things must be repeated both good a bad. It repeats so we do not forget what can happen. And just as we forget we become doomed to repeat that which has been forgotten.
maybe you're right CC like when was a question coming to the first episode was of Equestria you thaw what a question really was but now all the question episodes just made it like what is a question coming to
Magic, like any form of power is dangerous. In the wrong hooves it can do terrible things and tends to corrupt the user. But no matter what is done to hide, destroy or distribute it, it will always be there to use and abuse at will. That's why there must be a constant battle on the part of the good and wise to keep power out of the hands of those who would abuse it.
Its also in order for something to flourish, something must be comprised or sacrificed. Like how magic brings in new discoveries, yet natural processes are no longer flourishing(being harmonious with nature). Also every good has a counterpart; plus the magic in the show help gets the lessons across.It's really just an imitation if the human condition.
Well CC .... We already kinda know how every pony would react to their magic away.... Thanks T. Also as Newtons laws have stated energy can not be destroyed, nor created, only transferred that apparently still applies to magic because all the Princess had to transfer their alicorn magic to Twilight so T couldn't take it from them. So even if magic was going to destroy and ruin equestria what could anypony do about it anyway?
I have an idea of Starlight Shimmer, but it's out there Starlight Shimmer was originally the Alicorn Queen of Equestria before Celestia and Luna but she oppressed the people of Equestria and would take away their cutie marks and hold them away to ensure that no one would rise against her but she was defeated by Celestia and Luna had not only had her throne taken away, but was doomed to live her life as a Unicorn and stripped her of most of her magic and wings but she had enough power to get this spell off the ground if she was originally an Alicorn would explain how young she looks the time to study that spell and the power to do it
Ok, so, if magic were to disapear from equestria: CELESTIA CANNOT RAISE SUN, AND LUNA CANNOT RAISE MOON, TWILIGHT'S TALENT BECOMES USELESS AND NONE OF THE PEGUSUSUSES CAN FLY, MAGIC IS ATTACHED TO CUTIE MARKS, NO ONE HAS CUTIE MARKS= NO ONE HAS TALENTS IT WOULD BE UTTER CHAOS. So, I say magic should stay.
The thing is that magic IS a part of pony themselves I mean look at it this way what if their were no unicorns or pegasus then only earth pony would be left(nothing wrong with earth pony oc's)leaving a huge factor of equestrian life missing and in the where terek takes the pony race's magic their eye's turn gray showing that a big part of their existence was taken away I mean I get it with every spell casted a new problem is created but if they did take away magic sure it'd stop major problems but it will also affect equestrian life in all but that's just my opinion
Equestrian Magic is like our technology. It can probably be taken away (probably), they both cause good and evil like curing cancer to hacking and taking over someone's whole life and even killing. But ponies rely on magic. It makes their crops grow it helps them make weather and overall protects them. This is like our technology because without it, we no longer have enough power to make food for so many, can't make and analyse for medicines, so we'd basically not end too well. we rely on tech too much to just give it up and as do ponies so it makes sense to just keep it.
Aside from the whole geocentric nature of the planet Equestria is on? I'd argue that just the potential for misuse for good(a misfired spell or a spell with unintended consequences cast for the right reasons) or ill (Enslavement, chaos, etc) doesn't make it evil or something to be removed.
Look at what happened for just a day when every pony lost thier magic to terik. If twilight didnt raise the sun I doubt terik would have even bothered to do it if he had to
*Has epic idea* what if in the season 5 finally starlight comes back and takes the mane 6 (and everyone else's) cutie marks BUT the Magic doesn't work on blank flanks (the CMC) this could be a good way for them to get their cutie marks like they save the day and then BANG cutie marks about being Heroes or something
this for some reason reminded me of a movie called castle in the sky, theres a part in that movie ware this grama tells this little girl (shes apparently a princess) a spell now I don't rember what it meant or what it was but basicly sometime during that movie I belive the grama said it... screw it basicly she said you can not learn good magic unlease you learn evil magic what this means is for good magic to exist there needs to be evil magic you cant have one without the other its like having light but no shadow it just dosent work or good and evil you cant have one because whos to say they aren't the evil one since theres only 1 side of it, so can magic be deadly yes but it HAS to be evil for the good to exist its not just there for the bad or the good its there to be there and it has consequences for when used
Im actually curious now, what would happen if starlight attempts to take away the cuties mark of a pony who have no cutie mark? while it;s a rare occasion, it does apply, what happen if and when that happens?
Now THIS is a Good topic! Equestria is THE Land of Magic and as you said it can travel into other universes. Magic can have Bad outcomes, and with what you gave us I think things can get MUCH worse if someone like Sombra or Chrysalis learnt the "Cutie Switch" or "Spell of Sameness" Spells. IT WOULD BE BAD! And we have to remember that Tirek can ABSORB MAGIC! He Literally Eats magic! Imagine if Starlight Glimmer found a way to take all those Cutie Marks and make a SUPER Cutie mark. It could possibly Make someone More Powerful than A FREAKIN ALICORN! And if Tirek came back he could fine a way to Eat that Magic to! That's some Creepy Stuff there People!
Sparkle Chord He already does: he drains magic so completely he takes the marks. And drained ponies do not show any signs of recovering their magic over time like they normally would. But we do not have any proof that Tirek's spell works on magic species other than ponies, or inanimate enchanted items. This is supported by the recent comic where he learned that spell.
Sparkle Chord Ah right, but Sombra doesn't need to take anypony's cutie marks. He just corrupts their minds with 'Dark Takeover' until they turn into his slaves.
Well if you look at it this way its only the villains such as Discord and Sunset Shimmer use magic for evil bit yet have turned it around for good but if the technology to bend this existed then they would be controlled as to how much they and others could use it
That's what I've been thinking that magic is starting to be both a crutch and a weakness to all of Equestria and I would have thought it would be way better for it to be removed but seen the consequences of that in princess Trixie Sparkle, with Tirek, and school Raze ,I'm starting to reconsider knowing how in deep magic was connected to Equestria,as well as the whole sun and moon Fiasco. However I do find ways to integrate technology as a counterbalance to this magic dependency or it's a slowly Wayne magic away from the equation by having tablets to communicate with others much better than old style magic Scrolls and droids to help defend Equestria and provide additional support work to ensure safety and protection.
4:25 Powerful magic users on the level of Starlight, Twilight and Sunset are very rare look at Rarity and Lyra most unicorns can levitate, fire a beam and use some magic towards their special talent, Starlight, Sunset and Twilight's special talents pertain to magic in some way.
magic can solve problems but you make a really good point it seems like all the problems are made with magic like discord and sombra and chrisalis and all the other villans but on the other hoof magic can solve those problems but are you just doing this just because your an earth pony and do you have a unicorn enemy
Steven Escareno yeah, like Loren said earlier, all of mane six are in early 20. I think Starlight is a little older then Twilight, like Sunset should be older than Twilight cuz she was Celestia's student earlier. So if Twilight is 20-22, I say that Starlight and Sunset are 23-25 years old.
kottadragon But Sunset was personal Sun Butt's student earlier than Twilight and as we see in comic she looks like a grown mare and Twilight never heard of her, which means Twilight became student after Sunset's exile. Which means Sunset should be older than Twily.
Anything that has ever existed in any world can be misused to horrific degrees. Blaming magic rather than those that weild and misuse it is an exercise in pure folly. You argue that using magic to defeat magic is just fighting fire with fire and not solving the problem, I would argue that it's simply the easiest and safest solution to a problem.
I think it balances out. For every blatant misuse or destructive use of magic there is an equally grand benevolent use of it. Think about it. Magic brought pony kind together (Granted it also nearly wiped them out). Magic spread friendship across Equestria. Hell, as far as we know magic is what causes the sun and moon to rise every day and night, bringing forth that which gives the world the very light it needs to live.
Well if magic was removed from equestria we wouldn't have those funny and pretty hilarious discord moments such as when he awakes from the stone and like he was just sleeping turning ponyville upside down the Buffalo into ballet we wouldn't have any of that if magic was removed so that's just what I'm thinking
I'm like five years late but magic can be contained as well as possibly being groomed and controlled so unless there's creatures that still want to use magic for bad their activity could be stamped out and like starlight become better because of that!
Personally, I think that there are multiple kinds of magic, which HAS been proven and speculated. The Elements of Disharmony, the dark/shadow magic, etc... But I think that it has been seperated to different parts of the world- advanced magic is taught almost instantly in Canterlot, while in ponyville, you need to work your way up- Los Pegasus is 'mane'ly air magic, while sweet apple acres is growing food
I assumed that the spell Starlight studied for years was the super magic blast that Twilight just blocked. As for her ability to remove cutie marks, I assumed it was some inate magical ability she had, no study required. This falls similarly to Rarities ability to find gems, an inate magical spell she knows. I went with this idea mostly by the way Starlight's cutie mark is depicted, wisps of magic pulled form a star. If you chooseto beleive this head cannon, I pose this question, "What in destiny or fate warrants such an ability to exist with anyone? What purpose does it serve?"
dude I love your channels and I think you are totally right btw I had a question-why do all the canterlot guards have the same cutie mark if all cutie marks are different?
i think magic is going to far ponies use it for everything such as: fixes problems making problems causing problems. but its mostly unicorn/alicorn magic why? i dont know! pegasus and earth magic haven't been used before well thats all i got
Celestia,Luna,cadence,and twilight Celestia:raises the sun Luna:raises the moon Cadence:gives love Twilight:gives friendship to every pony!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To leave a serious comment for a change (even though it is really tempting to point out how your earth pony purism shows when I ask if magic show be banned all together :P ) I share your understanding that magic is an integral part of the world of Equestria. And to pick up on your own analogy of "fighting fire with fire": fire can be frigging dangerous, he can be used for harm, but it also allowed humans to evolve, controlling it is even today an important part of our society. Most important however: you can not ask for its removal. Fire is a natural phenomenon, he form of energy. There is now option to life in a world with or without it. It is there and to only option we have is how to life with it. Back to ponies: same goes for magic. The question if it is good or bad is wrong from the get go since it simple is. It's alignment only gets created by it being used for one purpose or another.
I think the problem lies deeper than simple magic. Magic is nothing but a mean to those who wants to spread Chaos, but the Human World clearly proved than even without magic, you can have a LOT of problems of every kind. I think Magic makes just happens things faster. Luna and Celestia don't have magic ? Then the Nightmare Moon part may have looked like the Lion King. If a character doesn't have any magic but wants something, he'll find other ways. That's what we call adaptation and that's what every living being do.
how would tirec take the magic from a blank flank, the magic is their special talent, but if they don't know what that is, then, how would someone take it away?
#CandidCream It would be nice if you could do a part two to this video. Like in episode "Princess Twilight" where zecora gives Twilight a potion that needed to be activated with "Alicorn" magic to work, was activated by DARK magic? and other instances of dark magic in equestria. Pretty Please plus love your videos (-^.^-)
I can't help but think of Fallout Equestria rn. Of how magic could easily be that destructive. It really just takes one small miscalculation in something to send the world up in smoke. Shoot, friendship alone had that power! We all seen what happens if Rainbow Dash hadn't created the Sonic Rainboom. How it can lead to a desolate wasteland
I don't think it would be better. Just different. Magic is both the ultimate equalizer as well the ultimate polarizer. As much as it brings ponies together it splits them apart. Also I don't think starlight glimmer's spell took their talents so much ad suppressed them. Forcing them to the bare bones of what they were.
We have seen it seems that not even the day and night cycle work without magic, in friendship is magic and in hearths warming. Their entire world is screwed without magic
Maby they could use the evil magic and use it on the bad guys because if it gets to out of hand they could use it on them because if you think about it they do have some evil on there side they have discord and Luna now I'm not saying that Luna's bad she just still has some evil in her or that has been left behind I could go more into this but plz tell me what you think plz cc thanks and bye
it seems to be very much on how you use it. Also it seems like another way to say privilege, not all ponies have magic and I'm not saying the other ponies aren't the worst but comparably a unicorn could overpower a earth pony or Pegasus. That's a lot of power to have and it pretty much goes to Uncle Ben in Spiderman "Great Power comes with Great responsibility" Its very easy to misuse it when you have.
with starlight glimmer in the episode that she takes cutie marks her and twilight's true talents are BOTH magic but twilight couldn't do any spells when her cutiemark was removed heck even do magic but I could spot starlight still had her cutie mark because she could still do magic and powerfull magic at that and that was even before fluttershy joined them
Magic is like a gun. A gun, though powerful, is nothing more than a neutral tool that can either used to hurt or to defend. The same can be said of magic. Which is why, to quote the Amazing Spiderman, "with great power comes great responsibility" and in every instance the magic had a bad or evil outcome it was either used irresponsibly by the main characters or to harm others by the villains. That's why it's illogical to blame the magic for what happens, because the outcome of its usage is the result of how it was used not the magic itself.
Magic, like everything else, has two sides; the dark and light. And because something is dark, doesn't mean it's evil, it just corrupts more easily. It depends on the user. If they're weak willed, they'll fall to temptation like Sunset, Sombra, or Starlight Glimmer. If they're strong willed they'll stay strong like Twilight.
Marcus teNijenhuis I wish I could give her this comment double likes
Let me explain: Magic isn't evil, but it isn't good either. My theory is that "light" magic isn't good and that "dark" magic isn't evil. However, the "light" warps a pony's mind to believe that the "dark" is evil. And the "dark" usually always corrupts those who attempt to use it (Ex. Sombra, NMM's essence). Unless, of course, their soul is pure. After all, we've seen people with dark magic be good guys and light magic be bad guys in other shows, books, etc. Magic isn't good or evil, it depends on the *USER*.
4:23 DAT QUOTE- (spoiler!!!) A UNICORN WITH A STICK
I was all focused and enjoying your alternate view on the role magic, and then you went and said "friendship speeches," and all I could think of was the parallels MLP:FiM has with Yu-Gi-Oh. You replace magic with the "heart of the cards" and you get the same stuff coming out of the Mane Sixes out of Yugi/Yami and the rest of gang. ...That actually would be a fun video, now that I think about it!
#CannedCream it would be nice if you could do a part two for this theory on evil magic. I have a few ideas that could be of some use. Like in "Princess Twilight" zecora gives twilight a potion that had to be activated with "Alicorn" magic, but was instead activated with "Dark" magic.. why is that? and maybe other instances where evil/dark magic was present that weren't touched upon or now shown in mlp.
+cannedcream
Magic is like water,you can drown in it ,but also be saved by it (irrigation for crops)
+Savannah Waddell not to mention it makes up alot of your body, all ponies have magic after all. though only unicorns have spells.
My headcanon is that the cutiemarks became a necessity after the War with the Draconiqui screwed up the natural balance of the world to the point that every pony had to know their place to help repair it over time.
"Feelings about being unwanted and un-loved." Wasn't she been taken over by nightmare spirits on the moon?
Ooo! I've got somethin' for ya, CC!
On the topic of Starlight, and how she can control time, maybe she pulled a Ms Peregrine (From Ms Peregrine's Home For Peculiar Children) and created a time loop where she could study her spell without aging. Just a 24 hour loop of her studying.
Think about *that,* CC.
exactly why do YOU not have a cutie mark? HUH?????
OHH so ANOTHER mystery!!
CUTIE MARK CRUESARDS... GO!!!!!!!!
time to find the lost cutie mark of cannedcream!!
Love all your magic vids, this one no exception. But anyways, I have a villain OC who has powerful enough magic to drastically alter probability. Yeah, sounds like fun. Luckily she's a villain.
Green Sonic HA HA HA! Oh your to cute. "*Alter Probability itself*" That's Nothing Sister.
Discord Draconequus LOL.
Discord Draconequus Royal: Hey!
Ruby: Serves you right.
Green Sonic Bravo! Bravo! What a Wonderful show!
Discord Draconequus Hey, i found a spell in a book from Limbo. I have a feeling you can read it. ((god I'm gonna regret this))
that would be a good episode idea. magic being suddenly gone from equestria and the rest of the ponies have to cope for an x amount of time.
I was starting to get distracted until he shouted "Are you even paying attention to me?"
hey i found something creepy in mlp. when applejack was chew on her hooves. should was biting off some of her skin. and when you see her do that when she biting down it mushy like a hand
5:20 "cough"falloutequestria"cought"
You know, i can kinda see a pony version of you presenting this in equestria.
Even though it's fan made, a good example of equestria not being able to be saved by magic, is my little portal episode 5 : heart of darkness. It's basically the story of the fall of canterlot.
Magic is the cause and solution of every problem in Equestria.
Every problem can be said to have been both caused and solved by something or other, like differing ideologies, advanced weaponry, or just plain people. It doesn't mean we should we should get rid of the thing in question.
First of all I like your videos. And I'm not completely sure if magic can be a bad thing for equestria or not... Maybe we'll have to watch more of the show...
Honestly, If I see it's night time while it's supposed to be noon at school, I'm running like hell. If all that stuff about dangerous magic leaking into other worlds is true, humanity's screwed. And like in Equestria Girls, when Sunset Shimmer got ahold of that crown, she turned dark, if smaller yet more powerful elements of magic were passed through other dimensions, such as the Alicorn amulet, or even that magic comic book of Spike's, who knows what could happen? The universes could clash or something, and mlp villains enter our world, just imagine the things that could happen to the world? Even if some of that magic is supposedly good, it's like you said, magic in Equestria can destroy a pony or other creature's life physically, mentally, and in their destiny. That's some pretty scary stuff.
Well just think on the bright side CC, you don’t have a cutie mark for her to take anyway!
Also, I don’t either on my channel. I was inspired but too late to make my own channel of theories on MLP, but I’ll still do my best to catch up with the other MLP theorizers! Thanks for inspiring me and all of us!
You sound a lot like Amon from The Legend of Korra.
"Bending has been the cause of every war in every era."
Hey, cannedcream! Who is your favourite pony in the whole show, well, exept luna. I LOVE Starlight Glimmer and your video has made me think otherwise! OMG!!! SHE COULD MAKE EVERYPONY TALENTLESS!!! OMG OMG OMG!!!
Well maybe Starlight Glimmer isn't as young as we think... I mean think about it if she was powerful enough to remove a cutie mark she used a more powerful version of the age spell Trixie used causing her to change her age completely...
I think that when the history of Equestria started magic was out of balance. So that is why all the evil beings could
(And did) try to destroy equestria. Now that ponies have developed and learned more, that doesn't mean that dark magic is gone. Anyway, all the bits of dark magic we have seen from the show were basically special cases. The average pony probably doesn't deal with dark magic. So, if you jitsu took magic away, Equestrian society would crumble. (Though now that I think about it, that would be an epic 2 parter.) Magic is what their works is built on. Sure there is the bits of dark magic, but that doesn't magic all together should be taken away. Thanks for reading!
I have to say Fallout Equestria is pretty much the ultimate SHTF scenario when it comes to magic fucking up the world. And as they say, "The portal to Tartarus is opened with the incantation of good intentions".
Ooh! Time for a song!
Cuz rainbows won't light up the sky unless you let it rain!
And shiny apples sometimes come with worms!
Oh you can't give up your magic cuz you're scared of a little pain.
Sometimes you've gotta let it BBUURRRNNN!!!!
2:33 I think counting the secret of my excess is kind of unfair because it wasn't really a misuse of magic, it was just a problem that was caused by Spike being a dragon and dragon biology which doesn't really count as magic exactly.
Tirek was a goddamned hero! We should freaking kiss the ground he steps on!
huh. . . never thought of magic that way. It really is a scary thought that the thing that holds together Equestria could eventually be the end of it.
I think there is two types of magic: regular magic and dark magic. For example, in the season 4 finale, after the princesses gave their magic to Twilight to hide from Terik, the black splotch of Luna's cutie mark didn't disappear. My theory says that the black splotch represents the dark magic she used when she was Nightmare Moon. And that Terik doesn't take dark magic. Dark magic is more powerful than regular magic, but causes side effects; like insanity, transformations, etc. And that regular magic is in every living thing. But, some living things have dark magic instead; like Sombra. And Discord and Chrysalis has both types of magic.
Everything you have said is very true, but I'd like to point out that magic replaces most technology in their world, and we are also having problems with technology (magic) like hackers (evil ponies using magic in a bad way) or its working the right way, but something wasn't put together right, like a glitch in a game or software. (Rarity and the weird magic spell book... Thingy... I have no idea) or having another app Improve another one, like giving you cheats and changing how a game works, like Minecraft PE and the app Plug PE (Trixie and the alicorn amulet) Hope you can read this and understand what I'm saying! Thanks!
What I want to know is where she got that cutie mark spell anyway, she is just a civilian, are the princesses so lax that they let these spells be learned by anypony? I mean there was a REFORMING spell in a PUBLIC library
Just as the Night and the Day all things must be repeated both good a bad. It repeats so we do not forget what can happen. And just as we forget we become doomed to repeat that which has been forgotten.
maybe you're right CC like when was a question coming to the first episode was of Equestria you thaw what a question really was but now all the question episodes just made it like what is a question coming to
Of course magic is dangerous in any form of fiction. You cannot have magic only solve problem because it would kill every form of tension in storys.
Magic, like any form of power is dangerous. In the wrong hooves it can do terrible things and tends to corrupt the user. But no matter what is done to hide, destroy or distribute it, it will always be there to use and abuse at will. That's why there must be a constant battle on the part of the good and wise to keep power out of the hands of those who would abuse it.
I like it! it really footteeths the power of ne, just like the power of three.
I like the subject of Magic In Equestria.
Please touch up on it as much as possible :D
Its also in order for something to flourish, something must be comprised or sacrificed. Like how magic brings in new discoveries, yet natural processes are no longer flourishing(being harmonious with nature).
Also every good has a counterpart; plus the magic in the show help gets the lessons across.It's really just an imitation if the human condition.
Well CC .... We already kinda know how every pony would react to their magic away.... Thanks T.
Also as Newtons laws have stated energy can not be destroyed, nor created, only transferred that apparently still applies to magic because all the Princess had to transfer their alicorn magic to Twilight so T couldn't take it from them. So even if magic was going to destroy and ruin equestria what could anypony do about it anyway?
I have an idea of Starlight Shimmer, but it's out there Starlight Shimmer was originally the Alicorn Queen of Equestria before Celestia and Luna but she oppressed the people of Equestria and would take away their cutie marks and hold them away to ensure that no one would rise against her but she was defeated by Celestia and Luna had not only had her throne taken away, but was doomed to live her life as a Unicorn and stripped her of most of her magic and wings but she had enough power to get this spell off the ground if she was originally an Alicorn would explain how young she looks the time to study that spell and the power to do it
The Rose would approve. (Dragonfable reference)
Of course, Twilights speeches aren’t going to save them *every* time, that’s why in the latest eg vid Pinkie said, “Yeah, yeah. Light er up ladies!”
Canned Cream if I didn't know any better I would say you have a fear of unicorns and the magic they wield.
Ok, so, if magic were to disapear from equestria:
CELESTIA CANNOT RAISE SUN, AND LUNA CANNOT RAISE MOON, TWILIGHT'S TALENT BECOMES USELESS AND NONE OF THE PEGUSUSUSES CAN FLY, MAGIC IS ATTACHED TO CUTIE MARKS, NO ONE HAS CUTIE MARKS= NO ONE HAS TALENTS IT WOULD BE UTTER CHAOS.
So, I say magic should stay.
The one thing I can say is that maybe magic isn't perfect, but in a way it's neither good or bad, just depends on the type of person that uses it.
I think you earth ponies are just JEALOUSSSSSSSSSS.
Ok, maybe not, I do agree on some points, BUT magic I think, overall is more good than bad.
The thing is that magic IS a part of pony themselves I mean look at it this way what if their were no unicorns or pegasus then only earth pony would be left(nothing wrong with earth pony oc's)leaving a huge factor of equestrian life missing and in the where terek takes the pony race's magic their eye's turn gray showing that a big part of their existence was taken away I mean I get it with every spell casted a new problem is created but if they did take away magic sure it'd stop major problems but it will also affect equestrian life in all but that's just my opinion
Equestrian Magic is like our technology. It can probably be taken away (probably), they both cause good and evil like curing cancer to hacking and taking over someone's whole life and even killing. But ponies rely on magic. It makes their crops grow it helps them make weather and overall protects them. This is like our technology because without it, we no longer have enough power to make food for so many, can't make and analyse for medicines, so we'd basically not end too well. we rely on tech too much to just give it up and as do ponies so it makes sense to just keep it.
Aside from the whole geocentric nature of the planet Equestria is on? I'd argue that just the potential for misuse for good(a misfired spell or a spell with unintended consequences cast for the right reasons) or ill (Enslavement, chaos, etc) doesn't make it evil or something to be removed.
Look at what happened for just a day when every pony lost thier magic to terik. If twilight didnt raise the sun I doubt terik would have even bothered to do it if he had to
Steve-O questions to go from Madre to wooden Activia question would be something different
*Has epic idea* what if in the season 5 finally starlight comes back and takes the mane 6 (and everyone else's) cutie marks BUT the Magic doesn't work on blank flanks (the CMC) this could be a good way for them to get their cutie marks like they save the day and then BANG cutie marks about being Heroes or something
this for some reason reminded me of a movie called castle in the sky, theres a part in that movie ware this grama tells this little girl (shes apparently a princess) a spell now I don't rember what it meant or what it was but basicly sometime during that movie I belive the grama said it... screw it basicly she said you can not learn good magic unlease you learn evil magic what this means is for good magic to exist there needs to be evil magic you cant have one without the other its like having light but no shadow it just dosent work or good and evil you cant have one because whos to say they aren't the evil one since theres only 1 side of it, so can magic be deadly yes but it HAS to be evil for the good to exist its not just there for the bad or the good its there to be there and it has consequences for when used
Im actually curious now, what would happen if starlight attempts to take away the cuties mark of a pony who have no cutie mark? while it;s a rare occasion, it does apply, what happen if and when that happens?
Now THIS is a Good topic! Equestria is THE Land of Magic and as you said it can travel into other universes. Magic can have Bad outcomes, and with what you gave us I think things can get MUCH worse if someone like Sombra or Chrysalis learnt the "Cutie Switch" or "Spell of Sameness" Spells. IT WOULD BE BAD! And we have to remember that Tirek can ABSORB MAGIC! He Literally Eats magic! Imagine if Starlight Glimmer found a way to take all those Cutie Marks and make a SUPER Cutie mark. It could possibly Make someone More Powerful than A FREAKIN ALICORN! And if Tirek came back he could fine a way to Eat that Magic to! That's some Creepy Stuff there People!
Wardoctor13 Your over thinking it! XD
Wardoctor13 if sombra could remove cutie marks... we would all be doomed.
Sparkle Chord He already does: he drains magic so completely he takes the marks. And drained ponies do not show any signs of recovering their magic over time like they normally would. But we do not have any proof that Tirek's spell works on magic species other than ponies, or inanimate enchanted items. This is supported by the recent comic where he learned that spell.
Ben N that was tirek... not sombra.
Sparkle Chord Ah right, but Sombra doesn't need to take anypony's cutie marks. He just corrupts their minds with 'Dark Takeover' until they turn into his slaves.
So, could magic be like drugs on our world? Some forms have benefits but overuse can slowly destroy the user and other forms are just harmful?
Well if you look at it this way its only the villains such as Discord and Sunset Shimmer use magic for evil bit yet have turned it around for good but if the technology to bend this existed then they would be controlled as to how much they and others could use it
That's what I've been thinking that magic is starting to be both a crutch and a weakness to all of Equestria and I would have thought it would be way better for it to be removed but seen the consequences of that in princess Trixie Sparkle, with Tirek, and school Raze ,I'm starting to reconsider knowing how in deep magic was connected to Equestria,as well as the whole sun and moon Fiasco. However I do find ways to integrate technology as a counterbalance to this magic dependency or it's a slowly Wayne magic away from the equation by having tablets to communicate with others much better than old style magic Scrolls and droids to help defend Equestria and provide additional support work to ensure safety and protection.
That's a bad idea like it or not magic is a part of that world removing it would be like removing gravity falls in our world
4:25 Powerful magic users on the level of Starlight, Twilight and Sunset are very rare look at Rarity and Lyra most unicorns can levitate, fire a beam and use some magic towards their special talent, Starlight, Sunset and Twilight's special talents pertain to magic in some way.
magic can solve problems but you make a really good point it seems like all the problems are made with magic like discord and sombra and chrisalis and all the other villans but on the other hoof magic can solve those problems but are you just doing this just because your an earth pony and do you have a unicorn enemy
The episode thumbnail was hilarious 😂
I say Starlight is around the same age as Twilight and all her friends.
Steven Escareno yeah, like Loren said earlier, all of mane six are in early 20.
I think Starlight is a little older then Twilight, like Sunset should be older than Twilight cuz she was Celestia's student earlier.
So if Twilight is 20-22, I say that Starlight and Sunset are 23-25 years old.
Ksardes inc i think sunset and twilight are around the same age but we know rainbow dash is 21 because of pinkie pride.
kottadragon But Sunset was personal Sun Butt's student earlier than Twilight and as we see in comic she looks like a grown mare and Twilight never heard of her, which means Twilight became student after Sunset's exile.
Which means Sunset should be older than Twily.
kottadragon Or they studied separately and I think that make sense.
Dunno
Ksardes inc i'm pretty sure they studied separately.
Anything that has ever existed in any world can be misused to horrific degrees. Blaming magic rather than those that weild and misuse it is an exercise in pure folly. You argue that using magic to defeat magic is just fighting fire with fire and not solving the problem, I would argue that it's simply the easiest and safest solution to a problem.
If magic is bad for equestrian is technology bad for Star Trek?
Yes?
You mean the Fucking teleporter
I think, magic in Equestria is a energeting manifestation of feelings and imaginary. That kind of magic was in my native mythology.
I feel like magic may cause problems, but ponies need it in their lives! imagine unicorns without magic.
I think it balances out. For every blatant misuse or destructive use of magic there is an equally grand benevolent use of it. Think about it. Magic brought pony kind together (Granted it also nearly wiped them out). Magic spread friendship across Equestria. Hell, as far as we know magic is what causes the sun and moon to rise every day and night, bringing forth that which gives the world the very light it needs to live.
Well if magic was removed from equestria we wouldn't have those funny and pretty hilarious discord moments such as when he awakes from the stone and like he was just sleeping turning ponyville upside down the Buffalo into ballet we wouldn't have any of that if magic was removed so that's just what I'm thinking
I'm like five years late but magic can be contained as well as possibly being groomed and controlled so unless there's creatures that still want to use magic for bad their activity could be stamped out and like starlight become better because of that!
Technology can be just as dangers as magic, if not more dangers, but both are just as important to advancement.
Personally, I think that there are multiple kinds of magic, which HAS been proven and speculated. The Elements of Disharmony, the dark/shadow magic, etc... But I think that it has been seperated to different parts of the world- advanced magic is taught almost instantly in Canterlot, while in ponyville, you need to work your way up- Los Pegasus is 'mane'ly air magic, while sweet apple acres is growing food
Dj Pon3 What do you think, Canned Cream? And how is Loathing? Evil as always I belive
Remember what happened last time magic was removed from this series. We don't want to go back. Trust me.
I assumed that the spell Starlight studied for years was the super magic blast that Twilight just blocked.
As for her ability to remove cutie marks, I assumed it was some inate magical ability she had, no study required. This falls similarly to Rarities ability to find gems, an inate magical spell she knows. I went with this idea mostly by the way Starlight's cutie mark is depicted, wisps of magic pulled form a star.
If you chooseto beleive this head cannon, I pose this question, "What in destiny or fate warrants such an ability to exist with anyone? What purpose does it serve?"
dude I love your channels and I think you are totally right btw I had a question-why do all the canterlot guards have the same cutie mark if all cutie marks are different?
Bruh getting rid of magic is exactly what Cozy Glow tried to do lmao
i think magic is going to far
ponies use it for everything such as:
fixes problems
making problems
causing problems.
but its mostly unicorn/alicorn magic
why? i dont know!
pegasus and earth magic haven't been used before
well thats all i got
Speaking of Starlight...WHERE IS UR CUTIE MARK?! IT HAS DISAPPEARED!
Celestia,Luna,cadence,and twilight
Celestia:raises the sun
Luna:raises the moon
Cadence:gives love
Twilight:gives friendship to every pony!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To leave a serious comment for a change (even though it is really tempting to point out how your earth pony purism shows when I ask if magic show be banned all together :P )
I share your understanding that magic is an integral part of the world of Equestria. And to pick up on your own analogy of "fighting fire with fire": fire can be frigging dangerous, he can be used for harm, but it also allowed humans to evolve, controlling it is even today an important part of our society.
Most important however: you can not ask for its removal. Fire is a natural phenomenon, he form of energy. There is now option to life in a world with or without it. It is there and to only option we have is how to life with it.
Back to ponies: same goes for magic. The question if it is good or bad is wrong from the get go since it simple is. It's alignment only gets created by it being used for one purpose or another.
point on how magic has changed equestria, in gen 1 there were humans in equestria and the land worked more like the everfree forest (naturally)
This is why my OC is gonna be a pegasus! and no cutie mark!
I think the problem lies deeper than simple magic. Magic is nothing but a mean to those who wants to spread Chaos, but the Human World clearly proved than even without magic, you can have a LOT of problems of every kind. I think Magic makes just happens things faster. Luna and Celestia don't have magic ? Then the Nightmare Moon part may have looked like the Lion King. If a character doesn't have any magic but wants something, he'll find other ways. That's what we call adaptation and that's what every living being do.
Magic: The ultimate doomsday device.Also known as a Mad Scientist's Wet Dream.
how would tirec take the magic from a blank flank, the magic is their special talent, but if they don't know what that is, then, how would someone take it away?
Funny I have been thinking about that since EQG movies. And I noticed a missing factor in both worlds. The element of balance.
Perhaps starlight glimmer's motive was to get rid of all magic via their cutie mark. It would explain why twilight' cutie mark was so important
#CandidCream It would be nice if you could do a part two to this video. Like in episode "Princess Twilight" where zecora gives Twilight a potion that needed to be activated with "Alicorn" magic to work, was activated by DARK magic? and other instances of dark magic in equestria. Pretty Please plus love your videos (-^.^-)
I can't help but think of Fallout Equestria rn. Of how magic could easily be that destructive. It really just takes one small miscalculation in something to send the world up in smoke. Shoot, friendship alone had that power! We all seen what happens if Rainbow Dash hadn't created the Sonic Rainboom. How it can lead to a desolate wasteland
I hate to say it, but maybe magic _should_ be removed.
it makes sense I mean in the first eqestria girls movie twilights own element turned sunset into a literal monster!
I don't think it would be better. Just different. Magic is both the ultimate equalizer as well the ultimate polarizer. As much as it brings ponies together it splits them apart. Also I don't think starlight glimmer's spell took their talents so much ad suppressed them. Forcing them to the bare bones of what they were.
We have seen it seems that not even the day and night cycle work without magic, in friendship is magic and in hearths warming.
Their entire world is screwed without magic
Maby they could use the evil magic and use it on the bad guys because if it gets to out of hand they could use it on them because if you think about it they do have some evil on there side they have discord and Luna now I'm not saying that Luna's bad she just still has some evil in her or that has been left behind I could go more into this but plz tell me what you think plz cc thanks and bye
the entire reason we like this show is because of magic!
it seems to be very much on how you use it. Also it seems like another way to say privilege, not all ponies have magic and I'm not saying the other ponies aren't the worst but comparably a unicorn could overpower a earth pony or Pegasus. That's a lot of power to have and it pretty much goes to Uncle Ben in Spiderman "Great Power comes with Great responsibility" Its very easy to misuse it when you have.
with starlight glimmer in the episode that she takes cutie marks her and twilight's true talents are BOTH magic but twilight couldn't do any spells when her cutiemark was removed heck even do magic but I could spot starlight still had her cutie mark because she could still do magic and powerfull magic at that and that was even before fluttershy joined them
*serious but goofy-ish look* WE ARE ALL COLLECTIVELY DOOMED!!
Magic is like a gun. A gun, though powerful, is nothing more than a neutral tool that can either used to hurt or to defend. The same can be said of magic. Which is why, to quote the Amazing Spiderman, "with great power comes great responsibility" and in every instance the magic had a bad or evil outcome it was either used irresponsibly by the main characters or to harm others by the villains. That's why it's illogical to blame the magic for what happens, because the outcome of its usage is the result of how it was used not the magic itself.
I think magic should be took carefully, and pony's/dragon's should be smarter to prevent this from happening!☺
Its like the Warp Engine from Star Trek. Its the most important Tecnologie but it destroys the Subspace.