Why wouldn't she be reading a script? Dude... that literally means nothing. She's talking about something extremely emotional and serious; if she says something that can be misinterpreted then things could get a lot worse. It's smart for her to be reading a script when recounting this, as she can express her clear thoughts that she typed when she wasn't as emotional as she wasn't speaking out loud about it. Are you people crazy... in what world does her reading a script make her a liar. Of course she's reading a script.
Frr tho she's squeezing her eyes thats a forced/fake cry also if you haven't noticed she's taking and she's crying hard one last thing is that she started her stream by FUCKING SMILING, SMILING!!!
to be fair george did say he touched her while she was drunk and took her being physically and verbally “happy abt the situation” as consent but never truly asked for the permission
@@devin7683 I do agree that her side seems fishy as I haven't even seen any evidence really, but that is not consent, if a guy is creeping out a girl and she feels uncomfortable and leans away from him but that guy thinks that her body language is that she is into it, is that consent to you? People can missread body language or have the wrong idea, it needs to be verbal. And people for various reasons might not leave, could be that they are just too drunk to be totally in the right headspace to even think about it, they could be flustered enough not to think about, and heaps of other reasons, as it is never black and white when it comes to how people react and think in situations like this, it's too complicated of a thing to just say, ''she didn't leave so it couldn't have been that bad.''
@@user-vq4su9me5lthe thing about it all is both are at fault. She should have left, she shouldn't have been drinking, and she should have said something then and there. He should have also asked but giving the case they cuddled for over an hour and she came back to him after getting up, it's "natural" to give it a shot. Was it wrong yea, but at least it didn't escalate to anything worse. The age gap doesn't matter, it's creepy yea but there are older men sleeping with young women everywhere. She needs to also apologize about making this bigger than it is cause this drama is she said she said and again, BOTH ARE AT WRONG. Again both had drinks, both cuddled for over an hour, and she didn't do anything. She should have, her excuses of, hurting his ego, means nothing. It doesn't help that she has gone radio silence since. It is nice George has owned up and apologized, it's her turn to apologize for being dumb that night and making this WAY bigger than it needed to be
Listen I won’t say he’s guilty until it’s proven. Seeing how every single person from the dream SMP are getting called out I’m going to wait. (After hearing his side….bro I’m just confused) ok after it all went down nah man she’s a LIAR
😂 guys she just a person that wants to ruin Georges carrear bruh she keeps changing her story every time someone ends up finding the truth to make it seem like George really did assault her sexually which is just not the case
I’d like to remind people: PLEASE TAKE A GENERAL STAND ON THIS. Remember these are allegations not actual confirmed actions, the best we can do is just sit in the middle rather than jump on a side and feel fooled and betrayed when the truth is revealed. Also, do not go harassing either of them, weither the allegations are true or not it doesn’t make anything better, you can’t fight fire with fire.
@@namiitang this was meant to be a general stance and I’m still trying to find out more myself, I still don’t encourage attacking anyone mentioned in this tho
@@ionabona1st, Goerge have proofs that she lied. 2nd, no need to George, if u have a lit bit of brain energy in ur head then u would notices that she lied: She changed her stories so much (1st clip she said George touched her stomach, next one she said he touched her boobs) + she smiled like nothing happened just few days before her "incident", and i genuinely dont think an SA's victim can recovering that fast.
@@ionabonayes bruddah i’m cuddling with a girl for an hour now and i put my arm on her waist. All of a sudden im charged with assault. Do you hear yourself? 😂
That cry seemed prettt fake...like its was the high pitch voice and the cry that madenit seems fake , definitely need more context for this for this .not a fan of either of them , but i dont doubt tjat someone would lie about one of dreams friends
So what if she is reading from her phone? It could a script if for example she doesn't know what to say, streamers and youtubers have scripts. What im trying to say is reading from phones/scripts doesnt mean that its fake
Idk what these comments are on. Reading from the phone might not prove it's fake, but it's hella suspicious. When you're talking about something like this, you perfectly know what happened, writing a script and then crying through it looks fake af
Nah you guys actually lack the skill to detect fake crying. Never give sympathy to any crying women without knowing the full story. They weaponize others kind heart to get away with bs. She lied about her age and when he ghosted her after finding out she was 18 not 21 she did this for attention.
damn bro you called it. have you seen george's new response? i knew her crying was off from the start but i chose to give her the benefit of the doubt and immediately sided with the "victim". although i didn't jump in the twitter smear train for george, i did start to unfollow him and in my mind he was this vile abuser now. Now that George had taken accountability of his mistakes, proved that he meant well and no sexual abuse happened and even sincerely apologized all without invalidating caiti's feelings, i feel so bad and i wish i never so quickly dismissed that gut feeling i had that she could have been blowing it out of proportion somehow.
Okay but if you watch her thing.. it’s so fake.. her crying is so fake.. Okay I just watched the response and my point stands.. her friends manipulated her pretty much is my opinion. Neither of them are bad people.
I'm staying neutral considering I haven't fully seen her stream and she hasn't replied to George's video yet but I did read the quotes people were putting from her stream on Twitter and I just noticed her being EXTREMELY specific which is very suspicious imo
It's not weird. She's literally stated the Shelby gave her the confidence to come out and talk about it. She felt like no one would be on her side but someone with a similar experience came out so she felt confident to speak out as well. You people are so loud and so wrong. And yes, she's reading off of a script. Why wouldn't she? She's going to be emotional while talking about it, and whenever you're emotional, you tend to exaggerate or skip over words and such. It was smart for her to make a script to read so that way she can have clear words that cannot be misinterpreted. That's not suspicous at all. Be serious.
@@jamesbtr6152 The person that falsely accused tubbo said that exact same thing about Shelby giving her strength to come out about and how easy it is to ruin someone’s career over a lie.
That video has already been dismissed by George himself and he apologised to caiti on twitter it just shows how people easily believes the side the wanna believe.
The saddest thing is how his friends decide to instead of actually talking to George about this. They decide to believe a girl they’ve never talked to and just believe everything she says.
This is sick. In her stream, she said she went away and sat back on the same seat to protect George’s ego. Would any other woman or man that was being SA ed go away and sit back where they were, keep on being assaulted, just for someone’s ego? Silence isn’t consent, but neither is regret assault. I don’t think she realises how serious and traumatising SA can be.
Hlly shit this comment makes so much more sense now. Twitter is literally a hell hole, there is sooo much hate comments about george. People should understand that whenever a girl cries doesnt always mean she is always right. The one being called out can also defend himself but nah that audience will even worsen the situation by making even more false allegations. Im so glad i have deleted that app, i would never by amy chamce install that app ever again
I agree, although the allegations seem damning they’re not actually confirmed so why would you start spamming hate comments Also it could be someone else!! She didn’t even say it was Georgenotfound. Imagine how goofy you would look if she wasn’t lying and it also wasn’t George.
This is the whole amber heard and debt situation all over again, why is it that every minecraft youtuber from the dsmp is getting caught going weird shit, i mean yea they’re weird but like, Dream was already proven to be innocent and the fact that so many ppl took his “victims” sides without hearing his side of the story? Wilbur is guilty as far as things currently are, He’s guilty, Dream wasn’t, Now George? What’s next? Tommy, Ranboo, Puffy and Quackity have done some shit? At this point it seems like ppl are just making up random bs to make Minecraft creators get cancelled and the fact that even if they are innocent, say that they’re innocent and show PROOF, ppl still don’t believe them
This definitely resonated with me so I believe it at the moment. I’ve been put in similar situations not much with drinking but being touched and stuff around people and feeling as though you can’t voice being uncomfortable with it especially if the person is closer to the people around than you are. It can feel so shameful and it can feel like it’d be even more embarrassing to call it out so you just repress your feelings about it.
How can she blame George for not knowing she's uncomfortable, though? Sure, you explained why she didn't say it, but George didn't know, and she kept silent. I'd say this is just one giant miscommunication
@@fruitshatemae3041 ever heard of non-verbal consent? If you cuddle with a guy, he starts touching you, and you don't speak up, then you can't blame the guy for not knowing you weren't comfortable
@@fruitshatemae3041 no? Not everything is asked. That's just weird. Sometimes, people just shoot their shot, and you are free to reject them, but if you don't reject them, you only have yourself to blame.
Jesus Christ, she blew this WAY out of proportions. What was she trying to get? Because without people giving George time to explain his side, she could have ruined his entire LIFE, sent him to JAIL if it got worse enough, this is not something you lie about and do to a person. People make me sick sometimes. (And don’t reply to this saying that George is wrong or whatever, idc. In my eyes, they are both at fault, but it is such a minor little thing and could have been dealt with at the time. She kept going back to George, how was he supposed to know that she was actually “uncomfortable”, she also lied about her age, nevertheless, I’m not arguing anything, I’m just disappointed in people, and how people react to such things.)
To all the people saying “You need to ask verbal consent before having sexual interaction with someone” you are so delusional. When someone approaches me and I don’t like that I tell them “No, thank you, I’m fine, have a nice day” and they stop. This is how adults interact with each other. If you’re not fine with someone approaching you tell them. Don’t pretend they can read your mind.
@@jamesbtr6152 She was 18, she’s an adult. If she gets drunk and regrets the stuff she did when she was drunk well good job, grow up and be responsible next time, learning experience over here. Don’t drink if you can’t handle the consequences and take care of yourself.
This is actually crazy bro . She was underage drinking going to a hotel room with a bunch of strangers and thinks nothing will happen?She is an adult and should make better choices,also she is blaming so much on being drunk when George was too so basically your saying it’s ok for you to have no blame just cause your drunk. he should of had asked,but you posting it online before actually talking about this like the “adult you are” is crazy bro how do you think people will respond to empty words they’re both in the wrong she shouldn’t of had been irresponsible with strangers he should’ve asked if it was ok instead of just doing it cause they were cuddling.moral of the story don’t underage drink with a bunch of strangers and have consent before doing things. This has much more to do with regret of allowing George’s actions George should apologize for touching her and she should for publicly posting and not speaking in private to better understand each other’s feelings towards the situation and resolve the situation.
I'm so fuckin done with this girls just going live and crying rivers while telling the worst story all out of nowhere Dude, it even looks like she's reading all the shit she's saying ffs
Okay, how many DSMP members have crashed and burned after Techno died? Let’s see, (not in order and from my bad memory) So obviously there’s this with George, there were like 20 allegations against Dream, then Wilbur, and wasn’t there a Quackity stream apologizing recently for not paying volunteers and saying he was going to be more involved in QSMP, in the same one he said Wilbur is not in the QSMP server anymore obviously. I know there are more but I don’t have the brain cells to remember. I swear if something comes out against Tommy or Ranboo I’m going to lose my shit
Well, everything has been proven to be fake except Wilbur's abuse. People just hate to see them succeed, and wants attention by making up fake stories. Just support the victims, but don't hate on the people they are accusing of before there's proof. Or just don't hate on them at all, hate is bad.
@@17SharkBro Yeah, that’s been my position on all of them. I sort of hope it turns out Wilber did nothing but it doesn’t seem like that’s the case. Idk, I’ve just been keeping my mouth shut
@@S_lay220 well the thing is I was playing with my friend and my friend accidentally bumped into him He is the one who apologized,we also do but he didn't like out of instinct or something
@@S_lay220 ya I understand your point But I don't think that victim or who seem like victims are always right He will stream about the topic so we will get to know soon
@@blacka-karot_ Myguy I agree with fuji, If your a really popular youtuber and hundreds of thousands of people think you "violated" her while she was drunk You'd just sit their and ignore it? You're clearly not GeorgeNotFound, he has 10m subs and Could lose his entire channel and EVERYTHING because of these lies, USE. YOUR. BRAIN. THINKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Keep in mind, she tried to say he sexually assaulted her, Which with hundreds of thousands of people Thinking shes right (Shes not.) It could cause Legal Action against GeorgeNotFound. He'd get his story out and prove her wrong with her fake story BUT Would u rlly want to go thru all that. And even after all her bs HE said sorry TO HER BC SHE PRETTY MUCH ASKED FOR 1. So after all that he still said sorry and is trying to leave it at that.
Ok 1. I support George 2. “His hand went places i did not ask them to be” just kinda got me laughing cuz like men cant try to make a move on a girl without getting cancelled
The thing is the people who support George are the same who send death threats to Wilbur (not all of course, but a lot do) and that’s hypocritical. Apparently Wilbur’s apology was weak? And George’s story was fine. I don understand. I’m unbiased here just want everything back to normal
@@0dumbduckie053 He touched her waist after they cuddled for more than an hour. You're doing a disservice to actual victims of SA by spreading those lies.
I'm gonna stay neutral, cuz who knows if george is innocent and she is just faking it or maybe it's true that george is a weird creep. We don't know till we hear george's side
wisest decision! she lied and blew it all out of proportion. this can't even count as SA, he tickled her waist/belly area 💀 people really need to stop minimizing the meaning of the word smh it's like a slap in the face of actual SA victims.
I’m getting so pissed off like these ppl litterally got me thru most of my childhood and teenage years and now ppl come out saying all this. I’m quitting the internet. Also her crying was so fake
Something this traumatic do you think you need to type it out and read it on your phone?🤨 I would assume like anyone you would remember the incident vividly
I swear the dsmp og members are being accused of stuff we don't want to support and until George or anyone is proven guilty they will have my full support and if they're proven guilty I will slowing start to watch different videos because I can't support someone with bad intentions or if the were misunderstood Long story short I will always defend the victim and help people see if they were misunderstood or mistaken for the wrong person
she’s obviously faking 1. her story doesn’t add up because she has 0 evidence and George clearly has evidence, 2: she was cuddling with George so obviously they were touchy and they were play fighting, but that doesn’t seem sexual. 3. She said George grabbed her waist then she said George grabbed her boobs. Which isn’t clearing up. Because if u said he grabbed u by the waist but then say that he was actually touching ur boobs? that doesn’t add up. 4. she said she was 18, then she said she was 18 and 5 months. She’s obviously 18 and she’s clearly an adult to take stuff in her own hands. 5. She doesn’t want to tell the authorities or cops which doesn’t make sense to me. Because if I were in this situation then I would tell and make it a case. So she’s obviously faking it and making George look bad. And she did this because George didn’t want to have a relationship with her so she got upset what a real hater. SHES READING A SCRIPT ‼️‼️
its been so long and i dont understand how dream can release a statement on reddit siding with george and then delete it and side with her after!?!? even though when he was in those kinds of allegations George didn’t change up on him? its just so ducked up
Catiebugzz posted a text from one of the other boys in the room which he did not state the name of. On video he called he and to sum it up he said he'll naw I never sent her that. Also it was not sexual assault neither assault he was sitting next to her. I have lost faith in humanity for these reasons he has proof. But he is being canceled. 💔 I STAND FOR GEORGE THIS IS TERRABLE. I HATE THIS PLANET WHY IS THIS SPECIES LIKE THIS.
Damn it seems like anyone who has a sizeable following and a decent net worth just suddenly seem to start doing these horrible things to people and I couldn't possibly image why people woupd want to make up this stuff 🙃
Also as a woman we have this defense mechanism. It's called crying. Only some of use can cry real tears and the ones who do have truama behind it so it's easier but they usually don't want to cry AT ALL, it's just how their body reacts and actual tears form and fall. No tears...either they have dry eyes or it's fake.
Its so sad that after technoblades death everythings gone down first dream got accused or a lot of stuff, then wilbur is a abuser, and now george?!?! Also you see how cati is squizing her eyes thats a fake/forced cry, and we have no proof exactly what happened
Everyone is saying first dream but he is innocent he had evidence and Wilbur did do something and came out that he did do it and George is going to tell us today but he’s not guilty or innocent we will fine out but don’t give hate to him yet let him give an explanation. I’m not saying to not support bc we all should support even if we don’t know yet
Lmao, idk if it'd be funny or messed up if Molly does a bit where she comes out to say that Tommy was cheating on her, because he got married to Tubbo.
He says she says. She has no evidence whatsoever outside of a video where she's crying. That's not evidence the only thing it proves is she's capable of crying. Fake crying is actually easy because you just have to think of something else that makes you sad
A person is innocent until proven guilty and I think George is innocent. Truly innocent -2011 gen z who has never been in the dsmp fandom or whatsoever
They barely give details in hopes the guy will out himself and apologize then they can turn it on them like. "See he apologize for the way I felt, he is guilty. See other people don't like him too he is guilty. I'm not the only one." 😂
Everyone that has ever stepped foot on the dream smp are slowly rotting their reputations away with these allegations ... Everyone except... Technoblade
U saying this while knowing damn well that 99% of SMP's allegations is proven fake, except Wilbur, right ? Instead of just simping and believing whatever a girl said becuz she cried, used ur brain
@@ionutlupu783 and it’s a good assumption if she is at a 18+ party with 21+ people you would assume that person is over the age of 21 and like I said she is drinking under the age of 21 and asking to play over the age of 21 games which can add more reasoning to why he thought she was over the age of 21
@KAILLINNN just because someone does things like this, it doesn't "prove" or "show" they're the same age that's like assuming a girl is the same age as you just because she tries to flirt with you.
Imagine if Molly comes out about Tommy allegations I would fucking quit the internet
Weird thing to say
I wouldn't be surprised bro💀💀
@@YTzhenomusme too.
@@YTzhenomus I mean most people find him annoying isn't that a red flag 💀💀
@@De_Thunderred flag? That's just tommy from the start
Georgenotfound being accused of something bad was on my 2024 bingo list💀
damn 💀💀
How cares
@@user-gf8ni7nh7r **who
@@user-gf8ni7nh7rwhen cares
he's Dreams friend, ofcourse he likes minors
Bruh iswear all DSMP youtubers are getting allegations
Me watching the Minecraft community falling apart:
hopping onto hermitcraft real quick💀
@@forrest6939some of the only good minecraft creators left:(
They r getting out of hand
First Dream, also Wilbur & Punz, now George. Wtf
IM CRYING SHES READJNG A SCRIPT
Exactly, the fact that people believe her is appalling
She deserves an Oscar.
Also before some of the simps reply to me, no i do not watch george or any streamer
pls its so obvious too 😭 im so sorry if i turn out to be wrong but
Why wouldn't she be reading a script? Dude... that literally means nothing. She's talking about something extremely emotional and serious; if she says something that can be misinterpreted then things could get a lot worse. It's smart for her to be reading a script when recounting this, as she can express her clear thoughts that she typed when she wasn't as emotional as she wasn't speaking out loud about it. Are you people crazy... in what world does her reading a script make her a liar. Of course she's reading a script.
@@jamesbtr6152 suspicious af and we all know it
Nah she’s so fake 😂
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Frr tho she's squeezing her eyes thats a forced/fake cry also if you haven't noticed she's taking and she's crying hard one last thing is that she started her stream by FUCKING SMILING, SMILING!!!
that's what im saying-
@@Fizzarollio_oshe even laughed too bro
She's literally just reading from a script
Nah bro because one girl saying stuff on the internet is definitely enough proof to cancel an entire UA-cam with no proof whatsoever.
to be fair george did say he touched her while she was drunk and took her being physically and verbally “happy abt the situation” as consent but never truly asked for the permission
@rellydavis2696 that is consent lmao if she didn't like it why not move or leave? Her story never made sense and ite clear that her tears are fake
@@devin7683 I do agree that her side seems fishy as I haven't even seen any evidence really, but that is not consent, if a guy is creeping out a girl and she feels uncomfortable and leans away from him but that guy thinks that her body language is that she is into it, is that consent to you? People can missread body language or have the wrong idea, it needs to be verbal. And people for various reasons might not leave, could be that they are just too drunk to be totally in the right headspace to even think about it, they could be flustered enough not to think about, and heaps of other reasons, as it is never black and white when it comes to how people react and think in situations like this, it's too complicated of a thing to just say, ''she didn't leave so it couldn't have been that bad.''
He was also drunk and she got up and sat on his lap multiple times@@rellydavis2696
@@user-vq4su9me5lthe thing about it all is both are at fault. She should have left, she shouldn't have been drinking, and she should have said something then and there. He should have also asked but giving the case they cuddled for over an hour and she came back to him after getting up, it's "natural" to give it a shot. Was it wrong yea, but at least it didn't escalate to anything worse. The age gap doesn't matter, it's creepy yea but there are older men sleeping with young women everywhere.
She needs to also apologize about making this bigger than it is cause this drama is she said she said and again, BOTH ARE AT WRONG. Again both had drinks, both cuddled for over an hour, and she didn't do anything. She should have, her excuses of, hurting his ego, means nothing. It doesn't help that she has gone radio silence since. It is nice George has owned up and apologized, it's her turn to apologize for being dumb that night and making this WAY bigger than it needed to be
Next thing you fucking know, Tommy and Ranboo will have done some shit 💀
Imagine molly doing a live like that 💀
@@Rohannn0007 DON'T GIVE IDEASSSSSS
NOT THEM NOO THEIR MY FAVORITE PLEASE SPARE THEM
At this point every dsmp streamer person will probably get caught doing some shit💀
@@S_lay220 Yeah... later we know the better?
Listen I won’t say he’s guilty until it’s proven. Seeing how every single person from the dream SMP are getting called out I’m going to wait. (After hearing his side….bro I’m just confused) ok after it all went down nah man she’s a LIAR
seeing what happened to dream we gotta stay safe and support the victims but also not attack the alleged perpetrators
@@daintydummy yes this is what I was trying to say you just put it into words better.
Agreed
@@daintydummy yeah exactly
Did he say snth more abt it like the stream
He came out with a response, he’s innocent 😂
😂 guys she just a person that wants to ruin Georges carrear bruh she keeps changing her story every time someone ends up finding the truth to make it seem like George really did assault her sexually which is just not the case
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I’d like to remind people: PLEASE TAKE A GENERAL STAND ON THIS. Remember these are allegations not actual confirmed actions, the best we can do is just sit in the middle rather than jump on a side and feel fooled and betrayed when the truth is revealed. Also, do not go harassing either of them, weither the allegations are true or not it doesn’t make anything better, you can’t fight fire with fire.
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What about now that there is proof?
@@namiitang this was meant to be a general stance and I’m still trying to find out more myself, I still don’t encourage attacking anyone mentioned in this tho
@@notJO3Y7 I recommend checking Twitter and TikTok right now because the info has been out for a week
@@namiitangyeah.he proved that she is lying
bruh this is click bait for ppl confused he touched her WAIST. that’s it. nowhere else, they were reciprocating cuddling. he did not assault her
if u touch someones waist in a sexual way which obviously wouldve been his motive it is actually classed as assault
@@ionabona1st, Goerge have proofs that she lied. 2nd, no need to George, if u have a lit bit of brain energy in ur head then u would notices that she lied: She changed her stories so much (1st clip she said George touched her stomach, next one she said he touched her boobs) + she smiled like nothing happened just few days before her "incident", and i genuinely dont think an SA's victim can recovering that fast.
@@Shicva2029you mean days after, right?
@@ionabonayes bruddah i’m cuddling with a girl for an hour now and i put my arm on her waist. All of a sudden im charged with assault. Do you hear yourself? 😂
@@ionabonashe is def not a victim she keeps on changing her story and tries to make him seem predatory af
keep in mind same thing happened to dream and he beat the allegations 🤷 george is innocent until truly proven guilty
He is innocent she got lied about her age to him and he ghosted her so she got butthurt and lied
Yep and if you watched her stream she started but by smiling!
People still fucking think dream is a groomer
That cry seemed prettt fake...like its was the high pitch voice and the cry that madenit seems fake , definitely need more context for this for this .not a fan of either of them , but i dont doubt tjat someone would lie about one of dreams friends
I don’t support abuse or assault but when she was saying what George did to her it kinda sounded fake like she’s reading off of her phone-
I’m not really on any side currently as George has not given his side of the story. But how does reading it from her phone make it fake?
So what if she is reading from her phone? It could a script if for example she doesn't know what to say, streamers and youtubers have scripts. What im trying to say is reading from phones/scripts doesnt mean that its fake
a script doesn’t mean it’s fake
For me, she's exaggerating what happened. Her tears are so fake and the fact that she keeps looking at the camera to see if she looks believable
Idk what these comments are on. Reading from the phone might not prove it's fake, but it's hella suspicious. When you're talking about something like this, you perfectly know what happened, writing a script and then crying through it looks fake af
They were cuddling and he touched her stomach. 😂 she should be banned from vidcon
Nah you guys actually lack the skill to detect fake crying. Never give sympathy to any crying women without knowing the full story. They weaponize others kind heart to get away with bs. She lied about her age and when he ghosted her after finding out she was 18 not 21 she did this for attention.
Iv got 4 sisters that was a classic fake cry.
damn bro you called it. have you seen george's new response? i knew her crying was off from the start but i chose to give her the benefit of the doubt and immediately sided with the "victim". although i didn't jump in the twitter smear train for george, i did start to unfollow him and in my mind he was this vile abuser now.
Now that George had taken accountability of his mistakes, proved that he meant well and no sexual abuse happened and even sincerely apologized all without invalidating caiti's feelings, i feel so bad and i wish i never so quickly dismissed that gut feeling i had that she could have been blowing it out of proportion somehow.
@@astraeuscorrigan yea sadly the internet is full of malicious people. That's why we can not trust victims just from their own word anymore.
As a woman I can Agree (with everything lmao)
Okay but if you watch her thing.. it’s so fake.. her crying is so fake..
Okay I just watched the response and my point stands.. her friends manipulated her pretty much is my opinion. Neither of them are bad people.
Might not be, we don't know.
You say support the victim, but when its your favorite white boy being accused you switch sides💀
@@S_lay220 no… I really don’t care for George. I loved Wilbur but I hate him now. I believe Shelby. Not this pick me.
I'm staying neutral considering I haven't fully seen her stream and she hasn't replied to George's video yet but I did read the quotes people were putting from her stream on Twitter and I just noticed her being EXTREMELY specific which is very suspicious imo
@@alecweeb3758 same
She’s literally reading a script, also don’t you think it’s kind or weird for her to say this right after Shelby came out about Wilbur?
It's not weird. She's literally stated the Shelby gave her the confidence to come out and talk about it. She felt like no one would be on her side but someone with a similar experience came out so she felt confident to speak out as well. You people are so loud and so wrong. And yes, she's reading off of a script. Why wouldn't she? She's going to be emotional while talking about it, and whenever you're emotional, you tend to exaggerate or skip over words and such. It was smart for her to make a script to read so that way she can have clear words that cannot be misinterpreted. That's not suspicous at all. Be serious.
@@jamesbtr6152bruhh...wake up to reality
@@jamesbtr6152 The person that falsely accused tubbo said that exact same thing about Shelby giving her strength to come out about and how easy it is to ruin someone’s career over a lie.
You have a good heart, but don't let it leave you being too vulnerable and easily fooled @@jamesbtr6152
@@jamesbtr6152 you still stand by this?
Update: go watch his new video for the actual story
That video has already been dismissed by George himself and he apologised to caiti on twitter it just shows how people easily believes the side the wanna believe.
@@LucinaMeowYeah this comment was before that sry
@@arcticmonkeys.version well she lied soooo
@@LucinaMeow But after we got confirmation from both sides, this was dramaticized and was just a poorly handled rejection on caiti's part.
The saddest thing is how his friends decide to instead of actually talking to George about this. They decide to believe a girl they’ve never talked to and just believe everything she says.
i laughed at her reading that scripte ngl 😭💀
She's reading this wtf
no offense to catali, i love her and she’s a great streamer, but that was so fake, and george is innocent
She’s probably playing the victim, George had some good evidence, I think caiti needs better friends.
This is sick. In her stream, she said she went away and sat back on the same seat to protect George’s ego. Would any other woman or man that was being SA ed go away and sit back where they were, keep on being assaulted, just for someone’s ego? Silence isn’t consent, but neither is regret assault. I don’t think she realises how serious and traumatising SA can be.
SHE READING A SCRIPT BAHAHAAH 😂😂😂😂
Hlly shit this comment makes so much more sense now. Twitter is literally a hell hole, there is sooo much hate comments about george. People should understand that whenever a girl cries doesnt always mean she is always right. The one being called out can also defend himself but nah that audience will even worsen the situation by making even more false allegations. Im so glad i have deleted that app, i would never by amy chamce install that app ever again
I agree, although the allegations seem damning they’re not actually confirmed so why would you start spamming hate comments
Also it could be someone else!! She didn’t even say it was Georgenotfound. Imagine how goofy you would look if she wasn’t lying and it also wasn’t George.
@@orihallmark how would I look goofy in this situation. Are you talking about the people who are choosing sides or particularly me?
I'd so delete Twitter if it wasn't for the fact that I don't use Insta and have a few good friends on Twitter
@@orihallmark They weren't damning at all. She really took 'tickling' and tried to spin it as SA
This is the whole amber heard and debt situation all over again, why is it that every minecraft youtuber from the dsmp is getting caught going weird shit, i mean yea they’re weird but like, Dream was already proven to be innocent and the fact that so many ppl took his “victims” sides without hearing his side of the story? Wilbur is guilty as far as things currently are, He’s guilty, Dream wasn’t, Now George? What’s next? Tommy, Ranboo, Puffy and Quackity have done some shit? At this point it seems like ppl are just making up random bs to make Minecraft creators get cancelled and the fact that even if they are innocent, say that they’re innocent and show PROOF, ppl still don’t believe them
Honestly the only allegations from the DSMP I believe are the ones about Wilber
This definitely resonated with me so I believe it at the moment. I’ve been put in similar situations not much with drinking but being touched and stuff around people and feeling as though you can’t voice being uncomfortable with it especially if the person is closer to the people around than you are. It can feel so shameful and it can feel like it’d be even more embarrassing to call it out so you just repress your feelings about it.
How can she blame George for not knowing she's uncomfortable, though? Sure, you explained why she didn't say it, but George didn't know, and she kept silent. I'd say this is just one giant miscommunication
@@SomeGuyH3re you don’t touch someone if you don’t know if their comfortable. that’s basic consent rules
@@fruitshatemae3041 ever heard of non-verbal consent? If you cuddle with a guy, he starts touching you, and you don't speak up, then you can't blame the guy for not knowing you weren't comfortable
@@SomeGuyH3re doesn’t matter if she doesn’t say yes i want this you don’t do it
@@fruitshatemae3041 no? Not everything is asked. That's just weird. Sometimes, people just shoot their shot, and you are free to reject them, but if you don't reject them, you only have yourself to blame.
I don't believe anything this girl is saying. Parts of her story keeps changing and George has proof. Justice for George.
Bro they were deadass cuddling lol wtf this girl wants clout
Says George and literally nobody else
@@DroidStudios001 Everybody else who was at the party also confirmed
@@izachi-chan2432 cuddling isnt abusing yes but he can go further you know?
Jesus Christ, she blew this WAY out of proportions. What was she trying to get? Because without people giving George time to explain his side, she could have ruined his entire LIFE, sent him to JAIL if it got worse enough, this is not something you lie about and do to a person. People make me sick sometimes. (And don’t reply to this saying that George is wrong or whatever, idc. In my eyes, they are both at fault, but it is such a minor little thing and could have been dealt with at the time. She kept going back to George, how was he supposed to know that she was actually “uncomfortable”, she also lied about her age, nevertheless, I’m not arguing anything, I’m just disappointed in people, and how people react to such things.)
Cmon bro? I feel like she’s just jealous of his subs
To all the people saying “You need to ask verbal consent before having sexual interaction with someone” you are so delusional. When someone approaches me and I don’t like that I tell them “No, thank you, I’m fine, have a nice day” and they stop. This is how adults interact with each other. If you’re not fine with someone approaching you tell them. Don’t pretend they can read your mind.
She was 18 and DRUNK. What do you people not understand?????
@@jamesbtr6152 She was 18, she’s an adult. If she gets drunk and regrets the stuff she did when she was drunk well good job, grow up and be responsible next time, learning experience over here. Don’t drink if you can’t handle the consequences and take care of yourself.
SPEAK LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
@@francescoforner2513also fun fact she is also underage for drinking
@@jamesbtr6152 18 and snuck into a 21+ drinking party oof
After technoblades death the dream smp has been falling apart.
Technoblade kept the dream smp together 💔😭
Not really, Dream SMP members just got targeted by people-who-want-attention-by-false-accused-streamer-and-played-victim
@@Shicva2029 yeah that's true
George says he'll prove himself right today with evidence but i swear if he does this girl's online life is getting ruined otherwise support her ❤❤
This is actually crazy bro . She was underage drinking going to a hotel room with a bunch of strangers and thinks nothing will happen?She is an adult and should make better choices,also she is blaming so much on being drunk when George was too so basically your saying it’s ok for you to have no blame just cause your drunk. he should of had asked,but you posting it online before actually talking about this like the “adult you are” is crazy bro how do you think people will respond to empty words they’re both in the wrong she shouldn’t of had been irresponsible with strangers he should’ve asked if it was ok instead of just doing it cause they were cuddling.moral of the story don’t underage drink with a bunch of strangers and have consent before doing things. This has much more to do with regret of allowing George’s actions George should apologize for touching her and she should for publicly posting and not speaking in private to better understand each other’s feelings towards the situation and resolve the situation.
this is some good comment
I'm so fuckin done with this girls just going live and crying rivers while telling the worst story all out of nowhere
Dude, it even looks like she's reading all the shit she's saying ffs
Okay, how many DSMP members have crashed and burned after Techno died? Let’s see, (not in order and from my bad memory)
So obviously there’s this with George, there were like 20 allegations against Dream, then Wilbur, and wasn’t there a Quackity stream apologizing recently for not paying volunteers and saying he was going to be more involved in QSMP, in the same one he said Wilbur is not in the QSMP server anymore obviously. I know there are more but I don’t have the brain cells to remember. I swear if something comes out against Tommy or Ranboo I’m going to lose my shit
Well, everything has been proven to be fake except Wilbur's abuse.
People just hate to see them succeed, and wants attention by making up fake stories.
Just support the victims, but don't hate on the people they are accusing of before there's proof. Or just don't hate on them at all, hate is bad.
@@17SharkBro Yeah, that’s been my position on all of them. I sort of hope it turns out Wilber did nothing but it doesn’t seem like that’s the case. Idk, I’ve just been keeping my mouth shut
George is innocent team
👇
I STAND WITH GEORGE
I’m dying that cry is so fake and she’s clearly reading of a script this is hilarious
I don't believe her, George is one of the most friendly person I know as I have met him in public once
Well, you said only once but your not actually close to him, he could be a horrible person underneath. But we shouldn't exactly jump to conclusions
@@S_lay220 well the thing is I was playing with my friend and my friend accidentally bumped into him
He is the one who apologized,we also do but he didn't like out of instinct or something
@@dakshbhatia8878 well, that was one time im assuming, but he still could be a completely other person underneath.
@@S_lay220 ya I understand your point
But I don't think that victim or who seem like victims are always right
He will stream about the topic so we will get to know soon
@@dakshbhatia8878 i agree,like i said a lot of times already,we cant just jump to conclusions
Me watching the minecraft community fall apart day by day with some random allgeations 😭:
For those who think it's fake then why would George respond to it knowing it's fake
HE HAS TO RESPOND TO IT Because ITS FAKE??? TO CLEAR THE FAKE ALLEGATIONS??? WHERES YOUR BRAINT ATTT
@@fujiiisooo he doesn't have to respond to fake allegations
@@blacka-karot_ Myguy I agree with fuji, If your a really popular youtuber and hundreds of thousands of people think you "violated" her while she was drunk You'd just sit their and ignore it? You're clearly not GeorgeNotFound, he has 10m subs and Could lose his entire channel and EVERYTHING because of these lies, USE. YOUR. BRAIN. THINKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Keep in mind, she tried to say he sexually assaulted her, Which with hundreds of thousands of people Thinking shes right (Shes not.) It could cause Legal Action against GeorgeNotFound. He'd get his story out and prove her wrong with her fake story BUT Would u rlly want to go thru all that. And even after all her bs HE said sorry TO HER BC SHE PRETTY MUCH ASKED FOR 1. So after all that he still said sorry and is trying to leave it at that.
@@fujiiisooo Think even more abt that
Shes clearly reading a script
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@@kids23436George confirmed it was real and said sorry to her
@@XD_ist ik
HELP, WHY DOES SHE LOOK LIKE SHES READING A SCRIPT OFF OF A PAPER😭
Ok 1. I support George 2. “His hand went places i did not ask them to be” just kinda got me laughing cuz like men cant try to make a move on a girl without getting cancelled
The thing is the people who support George are the same who send death threats to Wilbur (not all of course, but a lot do) and that’s hypocritical. Apparently Wilbur’s apology was weak? And George’s story was fine. I don understand. I’m unbiased here just want everything back to normal
If you actually pay attention to what she said it really isn't that bad at all. He really didn't do anything
Your disgusting. He SA’d her.
@@0dumbduckie053
He touched her waist after they cuddled for more than an hour.
You're doing a disservice to actual victims of SA by spreading those lies.
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg I am an actual victim.
@@0dumbduckie053
Then you should understand why her actions are wrong.
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg Her actions were bad, she shouldn’t lie (if she is lying), but I’m responding to the commenter
Her reading that script is kinda funny
“From one sex offender to another, George is innocent” is basically what dream is saying.
I'm gonna stay neutral, cuz who knows if george is innocent and she is just faking it or maybe it's true that george is a weird creep. We don't know till we hear george's side
Same
wisest decision! she lied and blew it all out of proportion. this can't even count as SA, he tickled her waist/belly area 💀 people really need to stop minimizing the meaning of the word smh it's like a slap in the face of actual SA victims.
I’m getting so pissed off like these ppl litterally got me thru most of my childhood and teenage years and now ppl come out saying all this. I’m quitting the internet. Also her crying was so fake
You can literally see her eyes reading a script 💀
If it was actually so bad go to police. Why would you put it all over social media for random people to see.
Because the police wouldn’t do anything
@@0dumbduckie053
Ofcourse they don't do anything when nothing actually happened.
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg What are you talking about
Something this traumatic do you think you need to type it out and read it on your phone?🤨 I would assume like anyone you would remember the incident vividly
I swear the dsmp og members are being accused of stuff we don't want to support and until George or anyone is proven guilty they will have my full support and if they're proven guilty I will slowing start to watch different videos because I can't support someone with bad intentions or if the were misunderstood Long story short I will always defend the victim and help people see if they were misunderstood or mistaken for the wrong person
She’s capping and that’s it
She's so fake. She just wants attention.
idk, but i feel like it’s kinda weird that it would have been in front of an entire room full of people, but that’s just me.
A room full of drunk people. It wasn't a random sober social gathering. They were all drunk.
George is too sweet. He would never. Also looks like she's reading off of a script and fake crying.
she’s obviously faking 1. her story doesn’t add up because she has 0 evidence and George clearly has evidence, 2: she was cuddling with George so obviously they were touchy and they were play fighting, but that doesn’t seem sexual. 3. She said George grabbed her waist then she said George grabbed her boobs. Which isn’t clearing up. Because if u said he grabbed u by the waist but then say that he was actually touching ur boobs? that doesn’t add up. 4. she said she was 18, then she said she was 18 and 5 months. She’s obviously 18 and she’s clearly an adult to take stuff in her own hands. 5. She doesn’t want to tell the authorities or cops which doesn’t make sense to me. Because if I were in this situation then I would tell and make it a case. So she’s obviously faking it and making George look bad. And she did this because George didn’t want to have a relationship with her so she got upset what a real hater. SHES READING A SCRIPT ‼️‼️
Idk bud, sounds fake, I mean all of this is targeted only at the SMP, like no one else, just them
2024 be one of the worst years for DSMP including Techno used to hold everyone together
its been so long and i dont understand how dream can release a statement on reddit siding with george and then delete it and side with her after!?!? even though when he was in those kinds of allegations George didn’t change up on him? its just so ducked up
Caiti is a liar
The clothes have a right to defend themselves
Wait so she said *it was the first time anyone had ever touched me*. And then she cried. Maybe she’s crying of happiness that someone touched her
I leave the fandom for a little and come back to this?! What have i missed??
Catiebugzz posted a text from one of the other boys in the room which he did not state the name of. On video he called he and to sum it up he said he'll naw I never sent her that. Also it was not sexual assault neither assault he was sitting next to her. I have lost faith in humanity for these reasons he has proof. But he is being canceled. 💔 I STAND FOR GEORGE THIS IS TERRABLE. I HATE THIS PLANET WHY IS THIS SPECIES LIKE THIS.
Damn it seems like anyone who has a sizeable following and a decent net worth just suddenly seem to start doing these horrible things to people and I couldn't possibly image why people woupd want to make up this stuff 🙃
Also as a woman we have this defense mechanism. It's called crying. Only some of use can cry real tears and the ones who do have truama behind it so it's easier but they usually don't want to cry AT ALL, it's just how their body reacts and actual tears form and fall.
No tears...either they have dry eyes or it's fake.
Innocent until proven guilty. Let’s not belive what some random woman on twitch says
oh but george has admitted that he was guilty 🤡
@@deathformen Idc, he's innocent until proven guilty by law
@@deathformen He admitted to touching her... On the waist. That's all she confirmed as well
A touch on the waist is not sexual assault
First Wilbur, now George!?!?
First dream
Actually, everything dream was accused of was proven false. You just don't want to believe it because you don't like him. @@Rohannn0007
@@Rohannn0007 Yeah, so it would be
Dream, Wilbur then George right?
@@ThatElmTree yeah
@@Rohannn0007didn't he say those where fake?
I can't believe people fall for this 😂😂😂.
She's reading it lol
⟟ watched the stream, he did NOT touch her without her consent, he said she was smiling and laughing and he was being sure she wasn’t uncomfortable
Its so sad that after technoblades death everythings gone down first dream got accused or a lot of stuff, then wilbur is a abuser, and now george?!?!
Also you see how cati is squizing her eyes thats a fake/forced cry, and we have no proof exactly what happened
Minecraft youtubers getting accused for the 475737175857672th time
They were making out on the couch, so what?
Were they kissing?
Where were her hands?
Did she say no?
Did she say stop?
This is absurd.
She’s an adult.
Ik its true but that lowkey sounded like a youtuber apology
18 yr old gets touched on the waist🤯🤯🤯🤯 and get this she was ALSO claiming to be 21 that’s why she was drunk
I swear to fck if Molly comes out talking abt Tommy of like allegations I will fcking be so fcking pissed off
Oml- first we got Wilbur soot now Georgenotfound? This been a crazy start for the year
Everyone is saying first dream but he is innocent he had evidence and Wilbur did do something and came out that he did do it and George is going to tell us today but he’s not guilty or innocent we will fine out but don’t give hate to him yet let him give an explanation. I’m not saying to not support bc we all should support even if we don’t know yet
From a video I saw creators were already shitting on him
She literally reading a script that’s crazy
I have a feeling that Tommy’s next 😳
Lmao, idk if it'd be funny or messed up if Molly does a bit where she comes out to say that Tommy was cheating on her, because he got married to Tubbo.
He says she says. She has no evidence whatsoever outside of a video where she's crying. That's not evidence the only thing it proves is she's capable of crying. Fake crying is actually easy because you just have to think of something else that makes you sad
What makes no sense to me is why tf they're saying all this crap on Twitch 💀💀💀💀🙏🙏
IKR. If she was uncomfortable they could have taken it up privately🤷🏽♀️
I just don’t understand why all this is happening all at once.
A person is innocent until proven guilty and I think George is innocent. Truly innocent
-2011 gen z who has never been in the dsmp fandom or whatsoever
They barely give details in hopes the guy will out himself and apologize then they can turn it on them like. "See he apologize for the way I felt, he is guilty. See other people don't like him too he is guilty. I'm not the only one." 😂
Everyone is explaining who’s wrong and why but nobody is talking about the fact that he cuddled with someone else that wasn’t dream😔😞💔
Even if it is fake first it’s Wilbur, the George next thing we know it’s gonna be someone else from the dsmp 😭
Everyone that has ever stepped foot on the dream smp are slowly rotting their reputations away with these allegations
... Everyone except...
Technoblade
U saying this while knowing damn well that 99% of SMP's allegations is proven fake, except Wilbur, right ? Instead of just simping and believing whatever a girl said becuz she cried, used ur brain
A reason why caiti is spreading misinformation: she is 18 legal age limit to drink is 21 why is she there in the first place
It was a 16+ event.
@@ionutlupu783 they gave her a 21 plus bracelet and she’s 18 she’s also not the age to be playing drinking games or drinking
@KAILLINNN nobody gave her a bracelet. George just assumed she had one bcs her friends had.
@@ionutlupu783 and it’s a good assumption if she is at a 18+ party with 21+ people you would assume that person is over the age of 21 and like I said she is drinking under the age of 21 and asking to play over the age of 21 games which can add more reasoning to why he thought she was over the age of 21
@KAILLINNN just because someone does things like this, it doesn't "prove" or "show" they're the same age that's like assuming a girl is the same age as you just because she tries to flirt with you.
Did she call the police? Why would someone just post about it instead of hiring an investigator, calling the police, and bringing a law suit?