Andre Iguodala Gets Real About Jordan Poole

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2023
  • In this clip, Andre Iguodala talks to JJ and Evan Turner about the fit of Jordan Poole and his fit on The Golden State Warriors with Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green.
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  • @JJRedick
    @JJRedick  8 місяців тому +141

    Check out the full pod: ua-cam.com/video/WkpPPxJbUIQ/v-deo.html

    • @GloryTwin_
      @GloryTwin_ 8 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/C1bnREyyHoU/v-deo.htmlsi=n25ngfDAjYI-4feK

    • @ragingoracle6239
      @ragingoracle6239 8 місяців тому

      Turn (Evan) Still owes me that 1v1..

    • @albundy495
      @albundy495 8 місяців тому +3

      Evan Tuner sounds like he's talking with coks in the mouth ..DA fuq

    • @MonstaRoe
      @MonstaRoe 8 місяців тому +2

      JJ You need to apologize to Kendrick Perkins for talking down to him for speaking on what actually happens in the Voting of the MVP in the NBA. You should of looked into it, instead of coming at him like he was wrong. when in fact you was wrongly speaking out of turn; You called him “irresponsible” if I remember correctly, when you was in that moment… Shaq has said similar things and other big named guys also! Would you sit in the faces of those men that actually knows because they was good enough to be up for it and talk to them like you did KP? That was such a huge step back from that article you wrote about black peoples plight. Made me think you was an ally of the truth and justice but I was wrong about your mindset.

    • @jonathanchan1365
      @jonathanchan1365 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@albundy495 good comment

  • @TimeBucks
    @TimeBucks 8 місяців тому +1211

    Pooles 285 turnover was enough

  • @Shemzinho
    @Shemzinho 8 місяців тому +3667

    I understand the Draymond punch affected him but he was more polished in the championship year than last year. He went from torching the Nuggets to slipping on invisible banana peels every possession

    • @Average_Incel
      @Average_Incel 8 місяців тому +133

      When will yall understand they pay these players to throw games.

    • @DoesRocksFloat
      @DoesRocksFloat 8 місяців тому +107

      There's only so much leeway you can give for the punch. But Poole was sucking the whole season and showed no improvement on both ends. Playmaking was inconsistent and defense was non-existent.

    • @mygaffer
      @mygaffer 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Average_Incelbullshit

    • @zion8993
      @zion8993 8 місяців тому +174

      @@DoesRocksFloatno he wasn’t he averaged 20 😂 he just sucked vs the lakers

    • @Chris7820
      @Chris7820 8 місяців тому +105

      It’s called a scouting report as he get a bigger role on the team the more they put spot light on him

  • @diablejambe3460
    @diablejambe3460 8 місяців тому +2198

    Beyond him inexplicably just slipping/losing the ball constantly, what pissed me off the most was how after losing the ball, he would just throw his hands up/pout and not run back on defense. Meanwhile, his teammates would be hustling back and hes just standing there. That, beyond anything else, was my biggest issue with him.

    • @gordongarlic
      @gordongarlic 8 місяців тому

      and all the stupid stupid shots

    • @adrrodw4975
      @adrrodw4975 8 місяців тому +137

      Why would you play hard for a team when the guy that sucker punched you has the full support of the locker room and front office? The Warriors got what they deserved.

    • @samirl375
      @samirl375 8 місяців тому +99

      he clearly downed tools, why would he put in effort when his mentor sucker punched him and got away with it, he felt like the franchise turned against him and he was completely spot on to give up on those who turned on him.

    • @adrrodw4975
      @adrrodw4975 8 місяців тому +26

      @@samirl375 too true brother, these fools are tripping

    • @samirl375
      @samirl375 8 місяців тому +1

      @@adrrodw4975 facts homes these clowns are bugging cuh

  • @normang663
    @normang663 8 місяців тому +343

    Andre has so much wisdom, that’s why he was so valuable to the warriors

    • @Antonin1738
      @Antonin1738 8 місяців тому +23

      he should join the staff tbh

    • @1234jokerboy
      @1234jokerboy 8 місяців тому +5

      I want Iguadala

    • @HighlightReelFactory
      @HighlightReelFactory 7 місяців тому

      ​@Antonin1738 nah the warriors staff did right lol. Iggy would've had him there still.

    • @YeahOk8
      @YeahOk8 6 місяців тому +1

      He didn’t say anything. He jumbled up a couple stories that had nothing to do with the conversation. The one time he did mention JP he kept sugarcoating calling him his brother.

    • @badabing7044
      @badabing7044 5 місяців тому

      and yet he stifled the Warriors for 2 years sitting on the bench.. instead of allowing younger players more development and playing time to grow. Whether it be TJD, Moses Moody, Brandin Podziemski, Kuminga, Wiggins, Quintin Cook... I think that this is a factor in the warriors downfall, we are seeing now. This goes for draymond too.

  • @Coicoy
    @Coicoy 8 місяців тому +1897

    The trying not to try part was my favorite quote in this 😂

    • @yaboiishaun9124
      @yaboiishaun9124 8 місяців тому +33

      I'm telling you that's my new quote right there.

    • @jeremycortes6349
      @jeremycortes6349 8 місяців тому +64

      Its weird how It makes sense though😂

    • @brandonbell8616
      @brandonbell8616 8 місяців тому +28

      Don't ask me why, but in the drilling field they call it "hot-dogging!" Trying to make it look like you're trying! More muscles are activated with fake facial expressions and movements.... when all that energy could have been used to actually TRY! I definitely get it! 😂

    • @Andrew-ms8md
      @Andrew-ms8md 8 місяців тому +41

      It's the same at every job. I can't tell you how many people at my work expend more energy trying to get out of work than they would if they just did their dang job

    • @victorampo1137
      @victorampo1137 8 місяців тому +2

      There’s a book on it

  • @TossGawd
    @TossGawd 8 місяців тому +190

    Turners voice surprises me every time even though I know it’s coming.

    • @jamardns77
      @jamardns77 8 місяців тому +14

      My eyes didn't want to believe that voice was coming out of him😂

    • @tonygaertner8863
      @tonygaertner8863 8 місяців тому +25

      Nah that’s yachty

    • @lancestriplin8161
      @lancestriplin8161 8 місяців тому +16

      It’s disgusting…I can’t bare to listen to it for too long

    • @COOLFOOL1980
      @COOLFOOL1980 8 місяців тому +27

      He sounds like Meatwad

    • @johnleighty6564
      @johnleighty6564 8 місяців тому +19

      Man just needs to clear his throat, and then continue to do it over and over and over and over. Not sure how to describe it it’s so odd

  • @sometimesposting6779
    @sometimesposting6779 8 місяців тому +159

    Andre is such a good basketball conversationalist.

    • @davidmack644
      @davidmack644 8 місяців тому +6

      Very charismatic, genuinely enjoyable to listen to.

    • @AR-io8fv
      @AR-io8fv 8 місяців тому +1

      And Evan Turner is not lol feel bad that I think it’s partly his voice

    • @courtdunge468
      @courtdunge468 8 місяців тому +1

      It’s his voice

    • @heofprophesy8188
      @heofprophesy8188 7 місяців тому

      lol@@courtdunge468

  • @donovanbradford8231
    @donovanbradford8231 8 місяців тому +28

    I love discussions like this because these are players not very far removed from the league. Because I remember when JJ finally talked about his thoughts on tge Draymond punch to Poole, and JJ thought it looked like a young player who got paid and didn't want to put in the work and got checked for by a veteran. Right or wrong it's so interesting to hear these thoughts on players from guys just out of the league.

  • @jonaslundholm
    @jonaslundholm 8 місяців тому +108

    The thing about Iggy is that he is saying stuff that I haven’t heard other players say. Gold!

  • @WrestlingIsReal649
    @WrestlingIsReal649 8 місяців тому +728

    Dude get knocked out and sent to Washington they did him dirty 😂😂😂

    • @nikithchengappa8405
      @nikithchengappa8405 8 місяців тому +141

      He got paid and now he's going to get way more shots to put up numbers. He was not done dirty

    • @andrewp5845
      @andrewp5845 8 місяців тому +134

      Flip side.. he won a ring and got paid

    • @deykno87
      @deykno87 8 місяців тому +31

      He a scrub he about to be exposed

    • @tay3583
      @tay3583 8 місяців тому +96

      @@deykno87That SCRUB was one of the reasons GS won that ring🤡Put sum respect on bruh name

    • @DABEATBAKERZ
      @DABEATBAKERZ 8 місяців тому +32

      @@deykno87get out of here Draymond you not fooling anyone

  • @Will-fq1um
    @Will-fq1um 8 місяців тому +5

    Andre Iguodala is always on point! Love the brother

  • @jasminedawson3998
    @jasminedawson3998 8 місяців тому +410

    Bottom line: to play with the warrior big 3 you have to take a role. Usually they get players on the downslope of their career who are willing and able to play their role. Poole just happened to be the one guy (so far) who was young and succeeded in a role. Problem was, he wasn’t on the downswing; he’s on an upward trajectory and grew beyond just a role. Sounds like warriors were promising him he’s be next but timing expectations were off … they wanted him to stay in his role and wait for things to progress with time and age … he wanted to start the transition right away. We see which side won out.

    • @doubleyoujaytee3017
      @doubleyoujaytee3017 8 місяців тому +60

      You know ball, GSW is a place for Team Ball, JP is a good player but he thrives in those Hero Ball situations, and he’d develop a ton on a Hero Ball team, so I’m kinda glad he’s in Wizards.

    • @cjwrench07
      @cjwrench07 8 місяців тому +22

      It’s like playing with prime LeBron/Magic/Russell. They are the system, and you fit in around them.

    • @tailoredfor831
      @tailoredfor831 8 місяців тому +21

      JP thought he was KD... sounds the same, but wrong set of letters. Didn't understand that it's not about potential when you're around people with experience/skill, u have to pay your dues first

    • @cjwrench07
      @cjwrench07 8 місяців тому +13

      @@doubleyoujaytee3017 SanFran has only ever loved & forgiven *failed* Hero-ball from Steph and Klay. Poole messed up by thinking they loved him like that too.
      Steph’s ~30% shooting in the last 5min *to tie or take the lead* is never held against his legacy [LeBron 46%, MJ 45%, Kobe 43%, Mr.Bill Russell 48% for historical context]. It’s just tossed away as part of his game like getting targeted on D.

    • @ahmereware8063
      @ahmereware8063 8 місяців тому

      @@cjwrench07I don’t think so I think people know.

  • @zType2
    @zType2 8 місяців тому +800

    At the end of the day Poole was benched in the playoffs and a complete liability defensively. With Jordan Poole the biggest issue was his lack of effort on defense... and when he's having struggles on offense that issue is amplified 10x. Sucks that it played out the way it did but everyone won in the end... JP got paid and is now the #1 option on his team, Warriors got another championship.

    • @xengarcia1217
      @xengarcia1217 8 місяців тому +12

      And the true is poole quits to GSW team and he should be shameful to him self

    • @alexescutia4805
      @alexescutia4805 8 місяців тому +143

      @@xengarcia1217they quit on him draymond knocked him out and nothing came of it and the rest of the team didn’t stick up for him. Shameful

    • @beankobe8205
      @beankobe8205 8 місяців тому +35

      Draymond been a liability every season … we never seen nobody knock him out or trade him 🥱

    • @peaceful344
      @peaceful344 8 місяців тому +48

      ​@@xengarcia1217What are you even talking about? Because he didn't play well during the playoffs doesn't mean he quit. Klay didn't play well either does that mean he quit too. They're human and every human has bad games and stretches of time.

    • @TreeSnackz
      @TreeSnackz 8 місяців тому +8

      He’s a grown man who pushed another man , those are aggressive fighting actions .

  • @tkknows00
    @tkknows00 8 місяців тому +18

    Evan Turner talking about the Portland teams. No defense, no assists, but made it to WCF

    • @kweefsweat5628
      @kweefsweat5628 8 місяців тому +2

      😂 I was trying to figure out what team he was talking about

  • @djkeefer76
    @djkeefer76 8 місяців тому

    Andre, you da man!! I love your perspective, and I am so happy you came back to the Warriors. Love your insight!

  • @younesyassine9409
    @younesyassine9409 7 місяців тому +1

    Man i just love andre man you just feel that the brother is genuinely good

  • @chinito1724
    @chinito1724 8 місяців тому +208

    I've always admired JJ's play, now I admire his take on a lot of subject matter regarding the nba

    • @wack...
      @wack... 8 місяців тому +10

      D rider

    • @taetrrtot6205
      @taetrrtot6205 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@@wack...🤣 Can't just appreciate what someone does?

    • @heywolfeyy
      @heywolfeyy 8 місяців тому

      @@taetrrtot6205 welcome to the new world, where admiration = D*ck riding

    • @samuelvillanueva9956
      @samuelvillanueva9956 8 місяців тому +7

      @@taetrrtot6205no u cannot admire another man

    • @iluvdissheet
      @iluvdissheet 8 місяців тому +2

      I agree. As someone who hated JJ since Duke, I have a whole new love and respect for him as a podcaster.
      I think we all can appreciate hearing from the guys who actually played than some talking head who studies statistics.

  • @pauldunlapjrbham
    @pauldunlapjrbham 8 місяців тому +37

    These three are a winning combo. Have them on again!

  • @drancealot
    @drancealot 8 місяців тому +315

    I can't wait to see Poole in DC. I don't think he's going to be a superstar, but he will light it up. His defense will always be sus. But it was obvious he mentally checked out of Golden State after the Draymond punch.

    • @Polo22546
      @Polo22546 8 місяців тому +8

      Facts!!

    • @frappexd_2959
      @frappexd_2959 8 місяців тому +14

      I think he can be like a ben gordan and before yall go at me for that. Go check ben gordan before the injuries in like 06-10 when he was averaging like 25 a game with the bulls and a young derrick rose. He was all offense and would destroy people in the pick n roll. and had a good deep range. He just was horrible defensively. Kinda like ben gordan can give u 25 a night just was a horrible defender

    • @cephasdaka7279
      @cephasdaka7279 8 місяців тому +8

      He was mentally punched out of Golden State warriors.

    • @getmoney3806
      @getmoney3806 8 місяців тому

      DC probably the worst place he could have landed. DC, Detroit, Orlando etc are career killers.

    • @randy2949
      @randy2949 8 місяців тому +3

      ⁠@@frappexd_2959this is actually a great comparison. I think poole is the better ball handler though, and Gordon was the more pure shooter. Legit a near perfect comparison.

  • @crypticfrost5634
    @crypticfrost5634 8 місяців тому

    Your vids/ pods are great man. Keep them comming!

  • @wyatthowe9234
    @wyatthowe9234 8 місяців тому +20

    Love the show JJ glad to have ya back.

  • @nuevacancion1242
    @nuevacancion1242 8 місяців тому +11

    Jordan Poole looks like the type who listens to the song “Dupe x Skyloker - cash” , on the low 😊

  • @t.p.8876
    @t.p.8876 8 місяців тому +27

    What I couldnt stand the most about watching Poole play besides the turnovers was his reaction to losing especially when he was a big factor, he didn't care , you see him on the bench smiling and joking while the majority of the team looked pissed!

  • @oppsrunning
    @oppsrunning 8 місяців тому +257

    Andre was 100% correct on that effort comment. Only guys that played sports at the high levels would understand. When you see guys faking it to get out of situations. Jordan was doing that all last year on defense 😂

    • @isaacdebeila8085
      @isaacdebeila8085 8 місяців тому +13

      😂😂😂no he wanted to force Draymond out the same way Draymond wanted to force Poole out... front office said they were looking to cut someone and Poole lost the bet

    • @sleeksilve2
      @sleeksilve2 8 місяців тому +15

      I knew from his demeanor at off-court events he's that kind of guy. Selfish is the word. Glad he's gone now. I never really was a fan of him.

    • @Ballinbmac
      @Ballinbmac 8 місяців тому +2

      @@sleeksilve2you know nothing

    • @ralph_m31
      @ralph_m31 8 місяців тому

      @oppsrunning Yeah, and then JP gets "the bag" while Dray didn't… It must be all of that, and because of that sucker punch, JP will give minimum effort bcoz he's not appreciated...

    • @reeseangle9621
      @reeseangle9621 8 місяців тому +5

      Draymond played no defense in the Lakers series, But played super physical in the Kings series

  • @MrKrabs-ho6gz
    @MrKrabs-ho6gz 8 місяців тому +172

    Shoutout iggy for keeping it real. Need more of this

    • @beankobe8205
      @beankobe8205 8 місяців тому +6

      Iggy lied to make draymond look good bro stop your bullshit.. poole was second in scoring all iso plays.. curry can’t get a bucket without a screen . Give poole his credit

    • @fxbeliever123
      @fxbeliever123 8 місяців тому

      seriously 'BeanKobe8205' come on dawg@@beankobe8205

    • @swaggyardigan
      @swaggyardigan 8 місяців тому +14

      @@beankobe8205your comment screams casual🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @iluvdissheet
      @iluvdissheet 8 місяців тому +11

      ​@beankobe8205 2nd in scoring 1st in defensive liability....
      The offense is designed around Curry not Poole. His job was to blend in and stabilize not need a new offense for his skills.
      Remember who the leader is.....

    • @connorhess923
      @connorhess923 8 місяців тому +8

      @@beankobe8205Poole also had 252 turnovers, had abysmal individual and team defense and had questionable shot selection at times. When his crazy shots went in, it was somewhat worth it and it gave Steph and klay some space for the screens. However, when he missed, teams forced him into tough shots and got the ball out of curry’s hands. He’s too inconsistent and when he plays bad he pulls the entire team down

  • @kingmitchell456
    @kingmitchell456 8 місяців тому +24

    Not for nothing Andre Igoudala is and has been one of my favorite people in the nba. Aside from him being an underrated monster in his prime he’s incredibly humble, a great locker room guy/ leader (according to ppl that have played with him) then on top of that he’s very candid and objective when he’s on podcasts. Not many people can walk the fine line of a harsh and open criticism all while keeping it completely professional/ respectful and iggy is definitely one of the few. If he chooses so, he’s going to have a great sport media career

    • @bplayerr1
      @bplayerr1 8 місяців тому +4

      Ppl do forget his prime as the "other" AI. A fast break and dunk monster!!!

    • @g4lsupreme542
      @g4lsupreme542 2 місяці тому

      Also a 🔐 on defense.. his only year in Denver showed who he was

  • @lonestarwealthmanagement7830
    @lonestarwealthmanagement7830 8 місяців тому +21

    JJ, keep them both. Y'all's chemistry is crazy! And it's so informative!

  • @amsterdamgraham8278
    @amsterdamgraham8278 8 місяців тому +1

    This is so good 🍿 love this conversation

  • @truthnotfeelings
    @truthnotfeelings 8 місяців тому +6

    Andre one of the realest in the league.

  • @evefet5491
    @evefet5491 8 місяців тому +40

    Jordan Poole did not win game 5 , it was Andrew Wiggins who won that. Jordan had 14 pts, Andrew had 26 points, 13 rebounds.

    • @estupedude21
      @estupedude21 8 місяців тому +15

      The spark and specific moments in that game was why he won that game

    • @michaelf6205
      @michaelf6205 8 місяців тому +3

      @@estupedude21thank you. Stats don’t always tell the whole story

    • @thomassutton679
      @thomassutton679 8 місяців тому

      @@estupedude21 That's bullshit. Credit where credit is due JP had good moments but that game was absolutely Andrew Wiggins' game. There were even some retards saying he could win finals MVP if he outplayed Steph in game 6. You can't say JP won that game because of specific moments because that logic can apply to anyone who played that game.

    • @myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070
      @myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 8 місяців тому +1

      @@estupedude21 nobody seems to understand this. Celtics are making a comeback after warriors leading most of the game and they have all the momentum, then poole hits that shot as the 3rd quarter ends giving the warriors the lead again and changes everything. That's also why I think Poole probably won the warriors game 6 too, he was the catalyst of the 21-0 run which was too much for the celtics to come back from.

    • @savannahalexander86
      @savannahalexander86 7 місяців тому

      Exactly!!!

  • @JebaJohn-fe7qp
    @JebaJohn-fe7qp 8 місяців тому

    Excellant this video i really respect you guys and your constributions to basketball a good luck 👍

  • @kevinnatale4920
    @kevinnatale4920 7 місяців тому +1

    Please more of iguodala, the guy is awesome

  • @Mula510
    @Mula510 8 місяців тому +7

    Your tryin Not to try That's the perfect way to sum up Poole last year.

  • @patitoduck123
    @patitoduck123 8 місяців тому +255

    Bro the fact Draymond and some GS fan have successfully turned the situation around and made it seem like Poole is the reason for all of GSs struggles and he’s the one to blame is crazy. At this point you would think he threw the punch lmaooo. The main reason they lost was because Poole regressed after Draymond knocking him out, Klay was back to full health and was buns, Steph’s and Wiggins were out for a while, Draymond couldn’t hit a shot, and the biggest thing, they were small lmao. No size and small ball only took them so far

    • @occultsymbols
      @occultsymbols 8 місяців тому +13

      Spot on

    • @kevinhousen2791
      @kevinhousen2791 8 місяців тому +16

      Draymond said " punching Poole had something to with it"
      Poole makes bad decisions and has terrible shot selection at times. He thought he was a splash bro but he wasn't.

    • @KrisHornett_
      @KrisHornett_ 8 місяців тому +32

      ​@@kevinhousen2791klay thought he was too

    • @0hsoaj513
      @0hsoaj513 8 місяців тому +9

      He didn’t even regress he averaged a career high in points and his moments , he just had a inconsistent role in the playoffs becus of early play which destroyed his confidence.

    • @DoesRocksFloat
      @DoesRocksFloat 8 місяців тому +24

      @@KrisHornett_ Klay had a bad playoff year, that's true. But Klay during the regular season shot over 40% on threes and made 301 threes for the season. Third player ever to break 300 threes a season. He also averaged over 20 points a game. Cmon bro.

  • @dream6woyy807
    @dream6woyy807 8 місяців тому +2

    bruh evan turner voice be fuckin my head up

  • @Atownstump
    @Atownstump 8 місяців тому

    Guess I’ll go ahead and subscribe. every vid this man drop have interesting convos

  • @ggsimmonds1
    @ggsimmonds1 8 місяців тому +3

    This is the first time I've heard Iggy speak at length in this kind of setting and I gotta say, I love his personality.

  • @powertothetubers456
    @powertothetubers456 8 місяців тому +3

    Never a dull moment hearing Iggy talk about the game of basketball

  • @roxy_hernandez
    @roxy_hernandez 8 місяців тому

    Thank you, as usual, for standing up on this point. #podcast

  • @jessebrowne2163
    @jessebrowne2163 8 місяців тому

    a million views in 4 days. JJs pod is phenomenal

  • @jjballers81
    @jjballers81 8 місяців тому +176

    Why tf he sound like Lil Yatchy

    • @Conroesavage
      @Conroesavage 8 місяців тому +3

      He doesn't think your own thoughts

    • @cooper8985
      @cooper8985 8 місяців тому +2

      Boat has a whole podcast .They sound nothing alike .

    • @KingGeeKay
      @KingGeeKay 8 місяців тому +11

      Evan Turner does sound just like Yatchy

    • @shaqsimmons5876
      @shaqsimmons5876 8 місяців тому +2

      U a Fool Bruh 😂😭😭😂

    • @user-ii1fe5hv4f
      @user-ii1fe5hv4f 8 місяців тому +6

      Can’t unhear it now

  • @kevinyuksekol646
    @kevinyuksekol646 8 місяців тому +1

    JJ and Iggy should 100% have a podcast with the two of them. They have great chemistry.

  • @Badlandz
    @Badlandz 8 місяців тому +2

    Andre was my favorite player my whole life

  • @24dreww
    @24dreww 8 місяців тому +5

    I hope he’s an all star in the future!

  • @360conscience
    @360conscience 8 місяців тому +262

    Pooles 285 turnover was enough 😆.

    • @beankobe8205
      @beankobe8205 8 місяців тому +14

      Stop lying poole as a starter did work cause curry can’t score without a screen. So poole being on the court gave curry more space to run around screens. Every team has to defend poole so curry can’t get double teamed. They literally lost to a 7 seed after trading poole 🙅🏾‍♂️

    • @peaceful344
      @peaceful344 8 місяців тому +33

      I bet you don't know that Steph averaged more turnovers than Poole last season. Steph averaged 3 3 per game to Poole's 3.2 per game. Poole's total number was higher because he played all 82 games whereas Steph only played 56. People report their own narratives about a situation and unfortunately don't always know the facts

    • @JoJo-ns9kx
      @JoJo-ns9kx 8 місяців тому

      @@peaceful344shit dont matter steph is golden state are you stupid nvm you dont have to answer

    • @ryanmcphee8451
      @ryanmcphee8451 8 місяців тому +13

      ​@beankobe8205 what r u talking about they didn't trade Poole until the season was over he played in the playoffs for the warriors

    • @switchbiz
      @switchbiz 8 місяців тому +29

      @@beankobe8205 curry can’t score without a screen? well yeah, if the defense throws a double on you everytime you get the ball, you won't be able to score as well without screens

  • @sdfhdz
    @sdfhdz 8 місяців тому

    yo Evan Turner wilds out for real love this dude commentary

  • @jmanny93
    @jmanny93 8 місяців тому

    Real conversation gotta love it

  • @devonteleggett3353
    @devonteleggett3353 8 місяців тому +10

    Evan Turner sounds like lil Yatchy 😂

  • @ljay061
    @ljay061 8 місяців тому +8

    Same people saying trade klay and draymond to keep Poole is the same people that would’ve been clowning them if they did that and gave up their defensive leader despite what they had going on behind the scenes doesn’t change the fact he underperformed poorly in the post season, and yes you can say klay did as well but it’s understandable because klay will never be the same he suffered a career ending injury, the only thing hurt about Poole was his EGO.

    • @ljay061
      @ljay061 8 місяців тому +2

      Poole got satisfied with one ring and the money and lost that hunger he was playing with before

  • @umarghourii6524
    @umarghourii6524 8 місяців тому +2

    The trying not to part was my favorite quote in this 😂😅

  • @christopherbahena5955
    @christopherbahena5955 8 місяців тому

    Happy to hear from you guys 🏀 such wisdom

  • @figuredrawing4912
    @figuredrawing4912 8 місяців тому +3

    5:47 It reminds me of this Bart Simpson quote: "I can't promise I'll try, but I'll try to try." 🤣🤣

  • @kobicooper8762
    @kobicooper8762 7 місяців тому +4

    Ahhh... The former 76ers shooting guards podcast. Lovin' it 😂 Gotta get AI and Maxey on with these guys.

  • @tromainrp3788
    @tromainrp3788 8 місяців тому

    Dang! I was really into the video and it seems like it ended too soon. This conversation was so good! 😄

  • @schwolmart
    @schwolmart 8 місяців тому +14

    Love hearing Iggy speak. What a legend

  • @jonpoon3896
    @jonpoon3896 8 місяців тому +127

    Poole is a good player taking good shots. But when he learns the difference between good shots and great shots, he’ll unlock into something else

    • @snakedog77
      @snakedog77 8 місяців тому +1

      We will see.

    • @MKIVD
      @MKIVD 8 місяців тому +7

      @@relaxpls- This is like the "Its a bad shot" comment by PG about that Dame game winner. The shots Steph does and makes are great shots for him and his ability, but aren't great shots for most people. That Dame shot was a good shot for him since he could still shoot beyond that point. For everybody else that's not a deep range sniper tho-its a bad shot.

    • @insanepolygon
      @insanepolygon 8 місяців тому +1

      And that's what makes him Steph. When you shoot 46.2% from 30-40 feet while the next best guy shoots 37.9%@@relaxpls-

    • @Polo22546
      @Polo22546 8 місяців тому

      Hopefully so.

    • @twoface9959
      @twoface9959 8 місяців тому +1

      @@MKIVDThe funny thing about that Dame shot is Lillard hit that exact same shot in the exact same spot over the exact same defender (Paul George) earlier in the game. The foreshadowing was strong with this one.

  • @blairsnyder1067
    @blairsnyder1067 8 місяців тому

    Great insight

  • @hikaru._.4284
    @hikaru._.4284 8 місяців тому

    Y’all made 7 minutes feel like 3 that was a goated vid

  • @davehowell6703
    @davehowell6703 8 місяців тому +3

    JJ you are the man. Love your content and views on the game - You keep it real and do not bow down to goofballs not to name names but Steven A _ i sincerely hope to see a LOT more from you.

  • @drewskii777
    @drewskii777 8 місяців тому +5

    He was a huge part of why they won a chip… they couldn’t have done it without Poole

  • @michealwells3943
    @michealwells3943 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice take on the Javale McGee situation 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @user-sz2zd7hr4r
    @user-sz2zd7hr4r 7 місяців тому +1

    This show so 🔥🔥🔥🔥 I can’t watch any other podcast fr

  • @jimcroce620
    @jimcroce620 8 місяців тому +8

    I've never watched a professional ball player slip as many times as JP, and I'm not even exaggerating. If you watched enough Warrior games, you'd know Jordan Poole slipping and losing the ball in a game is almost as certain as death and taxes.

  • @therockneverstops8261
    @therockneverstops8261 8 місяців тому +28

    Not all points are created equal when it comes to Jordan Poole. His lack of efficiency and ability to make others better is the main reason his scoring is not valued as much for a team with Championship aspirations. As much as he won the GSW a game in the finals he was also unplayable for multiple rounds of the playoffs because of his lack of defense and efficiency. 🤷🏾‍♂️ go figure..

    • @she.is.alissia
      @she.is.alissia 8 місяців тому +1

      💯🎯 talk to these people.

  • @ShumileSwift
    @ShumileSwift 7 місяців тому +1

    JJ Redick is such an intelligent guy. Such a good podcaster its so entertaining to watch.

  • @SurekhaGupta-md3wu
    @SurekhaGupta-md3wu 8 місяців тому

    Nice video 👍

  • @Lonewolf54322
    @Lonewolf54322 8 місяців тому +5

    Once Poole got that big contract. The hunger was gone

  • @drugonzalez7908
    @drugonzalez7908 8 місяців тому +4

    I thought lil yachty was doing a voice over for Evan turner 😂

  • @davidleong6606
    @davidleong6606 8 місяців тому +1

    What I will miss about JP is his surprising 😮creativity and fearlessness to shoot the winning shot or taking it to the rack… his confidence is his greatest asset… but just not for the Dubs… who grew impatient with him playing hero ball on O but zero ball on D.

  • @bayboy1967
    @bayboy1967 8 місяців тому

    Andre looking at this dude like dude you have pearls on.

  • @ANGELOFDARKification
    @ANGELOFDARKification 8 місяців тому +31

    JJ got it spot on. GSW need another Shaun Livingston archetypal PG type player off the bench. The only issue is Klay isn't what he used to be so Wiggins or someone else has to step up scoring wise.

    • @MandoGuerrero2
      @MandoGuerrero2 8 місяців тому +10

      Wiggins was their second best player when they won their chip in 22. When he wants to and is asked to step up he does.

    • @simonanderson4858
      @simonanderson4858 8 місяців тому +1

      @@MandoGuerrero2 He did't quite have it after the time off last season. Hopefully he springs back

    • @simonanderson4858
      @simonanderson4858 8 місяців тому

      I think the issue is broader than that unfortunately. None of the big three are quite what they used to be, even Steph. Plus the league has caught up

    • @DoesRocksFloat
      @DoesRocksFloat 8 місяців тому

      @@simonanderson4858he got injured then spent a long time away from the team due to a family matter. The guy only came back right as the playoffs started.

    • @simonanderson4858
      @simonanderson4858 8 місяців тому

      @@DoesRocksFloat Yeah that's what I was referring to when I said "time off."
      His level of play was understandable but that doesn't mean he a was where the team needed him to be

  • @b32acon
    @b32acon 8 місяців тому +52

    I really respect you guys and your contributions to basketball. I am not sure how JP will do in Washington without Klay and Steph spacing the floor. Regardless of the freedom that the Big 3 has, they were disciplined first or before the freedom. That freedom is slightly built off of that discipline or structure. I like JP but i felt that he was often out of control when he was frustrated resulting in TO's and poor decisions. At times I also felt that he was getting caught up in the hype / limelight resulting team breakdowns. I think he could be great, but I feel a lot will have to do with his maturity and growth from this point on. Also, he will not be at the Warriors organization which is going to be a different experience. It reminds me of Bynum leaving the Lakers. Bynum never played for another organization on the Laker's level.

  • @magisathletictraining5384
    @magisathletictraining5384 8 місяців тому

    Old Man and the Sea painting, love it

  • @djdoc06
    @djdoc06 8 місяців тому +4

    1:48 this take on Jordan Poole 100% confirms everything I suspected when I watched him on the court. And ironic thing is that he is not smart enough to be a winner when he is given freedom. He didn’t recognize that he only did well before because he played within the system.
    Smart defenders literally happy to go to Poole Island and bait him into doing the same mistakes.
    Poole thinks that he is the 2nd leading scorer because he was 2nd best player, when the reality is that he was 2nd leading scorer because opponents picked him as their poison.

  • @thatfatguy7591
    @thatfatguy7591 8 місяців тому +5

    Poole was worth $15 mill max yearly. The $125mill deal was almost as bad as the Gobert contract.

  • @Marx1684
    @Marx1684 8 місяців тому +1

    Piggy was one of my favorite players when he was in the court. Always showed up. Could easily change what’s taking place on court. Much respect.

  • @3030hp
    @3030hp 8 місяців тому

    This was great.

  • @KevinGrantandayolofortheroad
    @KevinGrantandayolofortheroad 8 місяців тому +54

    I have been waiting for someone credible to put words to the JP situation with the team this way for months!! Thank you as always Andre for finally being the person to speak facts. So much of the media around this is so mind boggled on the relationship or loves to only focus on the punch and some awful feud. NAH. JP a sniper but he's no second fiddle. The man was hitting half court bank shots in the finals, he needs a loose leash. But when you got 3 stars that need the same leeway, that multiplies the magnitude of JP coming down the floor and hitting a double hesi and the ball flying straight into the stands. I think there should be no love lost as he is that dude, and in 3-5 years this could've been his team, but no hate on him not wanting to wait on that.

    • @steverogers9894
      @steverogers9894 7 місяців тому +1

      Poor shot selection and abysmal defense. So give him leeway to do what?

    • @KevinGrantandayolofortheroad
      @KevinGrantandayolofortheroad 7 місяців тому

      @@steverogers9894 damn it's almost like you didn't watch them play if you're gonna say that's all he was

    • @badxgrass
      @badxgrass 6 місяців тому

      @@KevinGrantandayolofortheroad your comment did not age well.

    • @KevinGrantandayolofortheroad
      @KevinGrantandayolofortheroad 6 місяців тому +1

      @@badxgrass it did not, but I also did not think JP was gonna start playing like he's already got 5 rings and is trying out for the Globetrotters

    • @ninerempire3398
      @ninerempire3398 16 днів тому

      Jordan poole was awful and only looked good because he was on the warriors

  • @peaceful344
    @peaceful344 8 місяців тому +123

    The thing with Poole and The Warriors is they wanted and needed him to be all things to the team. One minute he's the 6th man, the next they needed him to start in place of Steph and be the leading scorer! The next minute he's back on the bench and required to lead the 2nd unit which contained 2 two way players and two 2nd year players the coach didn't trust. No role consistency at all and a terrible roster and he was 23 years old with nowhere near the amount of experience the vets had. Washington will actually be good for him. The new player development coaches the Wizards have hired have developed 5 all star caliber players. Everyone from Kevin Durant and James Harden to Shai Gilegous-Alexander. They'll be able to help him develop in ways the Warriors couldn't.

    • @sauce7608
      @sauce7608 8 місяців тому +10

      thank you,i believe the warriors will never find a player that can replace curry like poole.poole in the starting line up if curry wasn’t playing was a good player,he could literally do what curry does on the offensive end.i believe as well that poole will average at least 27 to 30 points per game in washington.

    • @reivelt3715
      @reivelt3715 8 місяців тому +4

      I think you nail the "he's 23". He is young. He is still that thirsty. And it is understandable. And not all player can be all like you said. The only player i remember that can do that is manu.

    • @iluvdissheet
      @iluvdissheet 8 місяців тому +8

      Poole's role was always to lead the 2nd team and be a replacement for Steph. That never changed.

    • @danielpeakperformerscoach
      @danielpeakperformerscoach 8 місяців тому

      Had me in the first half... Poole isn't traded to OKC!

    • @iluvdissheet
      @iluvdissheet 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@sauce7608 27 -30 ppg? Seems kinda high since he is going to the Wizzards and Beal didn't come close to those numbers.

  • @brisenburg
    @brisenburg 8 місяців тому +1

    Evan Turner laugh always sends me

  • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
    @ItIsYouAreNotYour 8 місяців тому +5

    Lou William's quote is great haha.

  • @norriswarner616
    @norriswarner616 8 місяців тому

    What's up JJ, keep on keeping on 👋👍

  • @antoniomoya2460
    @antoniomoya2460 8 місяців тому +7

    A takeaway I have from this podcast is when they're talking abt Poole after winning the ring, questioning "why don't I get freedom like that? I'm proven already." That's the issue there. Jordan balled out in the 2021-22 season, but I remember he even regressed a bit back then, when klay came back into the rotation. Like I said, he did ball out that season, he did come up big plenty of times in the playoffs, and earned his bag. I think him getting that bag probably meant to him, that he was now gonna get the same treatment as Steph. Once he seen that wasn't the case, the attitude showed.
    Now I get Jordan's frustrations. He's young and hungry. Steph's spot on the gsw throne at that time had Jordan poole's name reserved to sit next on it. Had Jordan kept up the work ethic and been a key role player like he was in 2022, the dynasty run coulda continued, and Poole coulda slowly and respectfully nudge out one of the splash bros in the starting and closing spots.

  • @isaacdebeila8085
    @isaacdebeila8085 8 місяців тому +3

    JP3 did understand his role is the issue... he was never the now starter, but he was getting starter player minutes on the floor.
    He should have understood that he was the young players Steph Curry and should have focused on leading the bench and when time goes he would be the starter

  • @alexrdh3591
    @alexrdh3591 7 місяців тому +1

    15 seconds ads is insane work

  • @jnewsom1979
    @jnewsom1979 8 місяців тому

    Very interesting vantage points..... good stuff. Makes Jordan more human and more difficult to judge him

  • @jleegoat9985
    @jleegoat9985 8 місяців тому +5

    I wanna hear Yachty and Evan turner have a convo😭

    • @187um9
      @187um9 8 місяців тому +1

      Lmao

    • @oj397
      @oj397 8 місяців тому

      Sick Man 😭

  • @crashglassbar5879
    @crashglassbar5879 8 місяців тому +7

    Iguodala: "I'm going to level with you, I first saw him I thought one word: scrub. But then, Kylie Jenner was in the building and he went off for 50 points, full on Mamba mode"

  • @dalimmia-lj2zb
    @dalimmia-lj2zb 8 місяців тому

    I love discussion

  • @keatonclark3017
    @keatonclark3017 8 місяців тому

    JJ will go down as one of the best analyzer/ broadcasters ever

  • @mrelove72
    @mrelove72 8 місяців тому +145

    This is kinda disrespectful for everyone in this discussion to keep saying Poole was 2nd in scoring, when he was actually 3rd. For a player to come back after 2 years, no offseason training, only to then lead the league in 3 pointers, averaging 22ppg is crazy to me.

    • @Zaghzackio
      @Zaghzackio 8 місяців тому +61

      Trust me they weren't trying to disrespect Klay with those comments.

    • @Masoch1st
      @Masoch1st 8 місяців тому +42

      poole still played more games and scored more points. so its not wrong to say he was second in scoring. he only scored around 80 more points though.

    • @mrelove72
      @mrelove72 8 місяців тому

      @Masoch1st Well, if that's the case, Steph played in fewer games than Klay during the regular season, so they should probably acknowledge who Poole was 2nd to. I'm guessing they was trying to say 2nd to Steph, which is why I thought it was disrespectful.

    • @mrelove72
      @mrelove72 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Masoch1st Poole played in more games and scored more points than steph also, if you want to angle it that way.

    • @mrelove72
      @mrelove72 8 місяців тому +3

      ...which would mean Poole led the team in scoring based on your analysis.

  • @iamBlackTech95
    @iamBlackTech95 8 місяців тому +46

    The problem with Jordan poole last postseason was he didn't try to incorporate the team. He was trying to pad his stats. He was playing selfish basketball. Look at anytime he took possession of the ball, in times he should have pasted the ball he would see the person open, try to become a highlight with a crossover and slip like water was on the court. He lost possession too many times of the ball because of carelessness and selfishness. They should have put kuminga on the court more, instead of him.

    • @t.p.8876
      @t.p.8876 8 місяців тому

      Agree

    • @pfneuman
      @pfneuman 8 місяців тому +11

      There is a video of Klay making a comment about JP not wanting to pass the ball. If you frustrate Steph enough to make a gesture that gets him ejected and Klay says you’re hogging the ball, you know the comments about ‘playing for self glory’ (and the baddies) carry some truth.

    • @iamBlackTech95
      @iamBlackTech95 8 місяців тому +1

      @@pfneuman yep we seen it on full display last postseason.

    • @bplayerr1
      @bplayerr1 8 місяців тому +3

      When a team takes the side if the man who emasculated you Im sure I' be playing pissed off and unfocused. Right or wrong 🤷‍♂️

    • @iamBlackTech95
      @iamBlackTech95 8 місяців тому +1

      @@bplayerr1 we have no idea what people said to draymond. The fact that it was no repercussions tells me people started it

  • @legattostacatto4805
    @legattostacatto4805 7 місяців тому

    That "trying not to try" quote were genious.

  • @joos4Lyfe
    @joos4Lyfe 8 місяців тому +1

    Evan Turner voice is really something🧐😂💯

  • @denk664
    @denk664 8 місяців тому +4

    Didn't knew Kermit the frog balled as well

  • @j.t.molina7223
    @j.t.molina7223 8 місяців тому +7

    Don't forget thay jp played amazinggg before Draymond knocked him out

    • @kiwigardnersonn
      @kiwigardnersonn 8 місяців тому

      It's almost like he got paid and stopped trying

  • @nintenduboy4825
    @nintenduboy4825 8 місяців тому

    Andre's eye roll says it all.

  • @brians.4403
    @brians.4403 7 місяців тому

    Nice channel- Good content- Also enjoy your game analysis...

  • @mrelove72
    @mrelove72 8 місяців тому +5

    He was 3rd on the team in scoring. Klay averaged 22 ppg

    • @trysephiroth007
      @trysephiroth007 8 місяців тому +2

      He also lead the team in total points last year and was second in points per 36. Guess it depends on what stat you want to look at for points.