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the reason I stopped using BluOS is that it randomly freezes for lengthy periods (requiring a restart) when adding new items to the library; when it lists songs, it comes up with odd listings and it is much less intuitive and more difficult to use than Roon. Even my old winamp was much better software than BluOS...winamp has nice clear listings by comparison. Roon works very smoothly, easily recognizes new songs in the library and is very intuitive.
I love my new Powernode. It drives my Magneplanars with ease. Sent back the new Marantz integrated I was auditioning (no comparison) and retired my vintage Harman Kardon integrated (which I still love). Also retired my Node 2i until I can set up a new bedroom system. The Powernode’s clarity and soundstage with the Maggies is special. I’ve downsized from turntable, open reel, MD, CD, etc. to Powernode only streaming from Tidal and FLAC files of my CD library on an NAS. I value the simplicity and elegance (and exceptional sound experience) of the Powernode.
After thirty years longing for 2-channel again I went to my local hifi-dealer in 2020. They presented Bluesound Powernode 2i(2x60 watt). They had paired it with B&W 707 s2. At first when listening to it in their listening room I thought they were pulling my leg. My first thought was "How is it possible that these small loudspeakers with this small amplifier can sound so fantastic". It was just jaw-dropping. For instance, the bass coming out from these small elements is amazing. The problem I have now is that it sounds better than my other amplifier which cost 4 times more.
I took your advice and bought 1. I was going to use it in backyard/patio/pool area. It was on back order and finally arrived this week. I plugged it into my brand new Forte iii's (great open box discount/close out on Crutchfield) just to try it out. Wow! I will not be putting this one in the back yard! First, sounds great with the Forte's! Second, great App, and the HDMI Arc as you said, is brilliant, plus the sub-out control is awesome. I liked it so much I just ordered another one for the patio and another one for the back of the house! The sound/quality/App/features at this point seems unbeatable to me! Thanks for the review!
I like the idea of the Powernode for a complete system, with a good bookshelf or efficient speaker like the Klipsch you could have a nice setup. Especially if you don't need or want all the separates. Good thing for people with limited space. I've always enjoyed audio equipment and I absolutely love this channel. I like the honest reviews and the depth you go into for your reviews.
I am so GLAD that you guys have mentioned the Powernode multiple times in various videos! I got one and it has beaten all other receivers I have recently tried out at home. Class A/B amps gave me distortion, warmth, punchy bass and greater listening fatigue. Other class D amps were underwhelming for me --or too much the same as old receivers I had: colder, trebly, empty in the mids, and poor on bass performance (Yamaha, Onkyo in the budget category). Sidenote: the NAD C 268 was the WORST amp I tried recently. The Powernode is the one for me with its sound and its features. Thank you!
I just heard the PowerNode connected to a pair of B+W 705 S2's and was blown away with the overall experience. I had been looking at 2 channel equipment that was many, many thousands of dollars more and just couldn't get over how good the PowerNode was in comparison - kind of a no brainer for me. Thanks for directing me to this great piece of equipment.
I think you're correct that the Node gets extremely close to the point of diminishing return. For less the Unity Atom, it's possible to purchase the Node, a set of KEF LS 50 Metas, and a decent flat panel TV.
@@spencerjones2035 +1. This is probably a very popular pairing! In fact, Bluesound had an offer months (years?) ago when you bought the LS50 with the Powernode.
As a beginner in the hifi world, this is really appealing to me, especially with the eARC HDMI port. I only wish there was an ability to add a centre channel because I don't care much for rears. This would be perfect.
Just buy a pair of bookshelf’s that have a good center image like the LS50 meta. You will hardly miss the centre channel. Dialogue will appear to come from the middle and will be crystal clear with the meta’s
Oh mate, thank you for this review. I've been hanging out for you guys to do this Powernode review. I value your better half's comments just as much as yours Andrew. Again, thank you both!!!
This is future - fi and to your question, I do think it will be an all in one quality sound and design solution for many who lean towards a savvy and elegant minimalism and plug & play flex on the digital, aesthetic and set up front. I totally dig their node streamer/dac and the BS App. If they were to ever do a 100W, they could just crush it for the same audience; for those who have more power hungry speakers or who want what an extra 20w would bring. They sure do have some amazing talent designing and marketing their stuff and with years of experience in the industry.
I’m new to this stuff and I’m very happy. I got my Powernode a couple weeks ago and I watched this video with the audio out via eARC to an old set of Yamaha speakers. I love the convenience and simplicity and the sound. Some day the KLH Model 5’s I ordered 2 months ago will get here and I can truly rock the house! I use the dots on top for changing presets...it’s very handy.
Okay, okay, I’m think I have to get this one. The inclusion of ARC/eARC is really the game changer. I have posted on other videos about trying to use zone 2 for the main system and trying to get best sound in a small room. The fact that I can hook my TV and subwoofer to this plus make a 4.1 system AND be able to make whole home audio system with my main AVR when I upgrade to a NAD pretty much seals the deal. The only downside is not having Dirac or another room correction but I think that is outweighed by all the other benefits!
Hello Andrew & Community, I own the Bluesound Powernode N330 paired with ELAC UN-FI 2.0 UB52 Speakers and a Schiit Loki Mini + The speakers are mounted on wall brackets about 5” - 6” from the wall because I’m limited for room space! I’m very pleased with the complete system set up that I have and this is all played through TIDAL MQA The new Powernode for me is an amazing piece of equipment in such a small and attractive (black) package. Simply awesome 👍🏻
Thanks for the review. Was all over the place with what 2 channel setup to go with. After this review I pulled the trigger on it. Tonight hooked it up to a pair of RP-600m and a SVS sub. WOW. I am blown with the sound that came out of such a small package. Honestly when I unboxed it I had my doubts. After playing it for a couple of hours at half volume. More than impressed. The app is very easy to use and setup. Thanks again. Money well spent
You didn’t cover the fact the new Node applies a digital high pass filter to your speakers if you connect a sub and set the sub low crossover in the app. Probably one of the most impressive features of this AIO box!
@@alantty You connect your subwoofer to the subwoofer out on your node. Then connect your line out from your node to the amplifier. And when in app you mark that you are using subwoofer the crossover cuts away bass from your line out like an active crossover. So your amplifier amplifies a signal without bass. Perfect! Super good explanation in not my native language if I may say
re QOTD: Sonos Amp. Sonos is usually omitted from conversation on audiophile channels but the Amp also appears to offer generous power output that I would think would enhance some of the same speaker pairings you tested. An important differentiator for me is the app integration with Apple Music -- not just Airplay2. Would be great to see a review of that component as a comparable. I've also been in the market for a starter pair of audiophile speakers and plan to pair them with a Sonos Amp (I'm already invested in their ecosystem). The best I can do research-wise is to note the preferred speaker pairings of all the competitor music streaming players (the Naim, Arylic, and now the Powernode) and trust that the same speaker pairings might work with the Sonos.
It works, but you will downgrade any speaker when using a Sonos amp. Don’t let the specs fool you. That was funny because they don’t even release serious specs.
@@BRRAAAPP1 Interesting. Very good to know. I might just be succumbing to their polished marketing (reminds me of at least one other big branded speaker company with large market share). I'll proceed with caution with the Sonos Amp - a side by side comparison with the Powernode is probably what I need to do. Thanks for your comment!
I think it's perfect! After my unboxing of the Powernode and in my eagerness to get it up and running, I connected my headphones to it and configured things while listening to the unit. Totally impressed, took me a bit to getting the speakers setup. The unit is small enough to sit comfortably on your desk, which makes the controls on top easily accessible while using the headphone jack (so as to not disturb others). Once away from my desktop, the app is also perfect on either the MacBook or iPhone. My first experience with Bluesound is good :)
One concern probably people of other states do not express. We do not have problem with paying its price, thanks to California salaries, but our houses are too small, so generally I have no space where to put this beautiful device. So your channel is the place where I can enjoy the powernode.
I’m am so glad you reviewed this piece from bluesound. I just got my T778 hooked up and I am enjoying the bluesound app and may want to expand to other rooms. Also since I just hooked up my speakers, has there always been a bass drop when Kristi’s take starts? I thought something dropped when I heard it. 😂 Thanks for another great review and I’m glad you guys are reaching that 200k mark. You guys deserve it. I hope you guys hit the millions mark.
NGL whatever microphone setup you use is working for me. Had to pull this over to my LS50s to listen. Thanks for the great review. This might be what I look for in the future
You guys are really good. Every day I eagerly check UA-cam to see if you have a new review. After seeing John Darko’s review of Powernode I seriously began to consider buying it, instead of a more sophisticated and costly solution like Gato. You have convinced me that this is the way to go for me. Thanks.
I own a pair of B&W 606 S2, which are they same speakers as you used in your review if i am correct. I was thinking of pairing them with the powernode 2i, why did you think those two were not a match?
"You can set crossover inside the app or subwoofer" is not as simple as stated. Inside the app with the slider knob, it is also setting high-pass-filter for the main speakers. Since output to the sub is low-pass-filtered by the Powernode, knob in the sub should at least be equal to what is set in the app or turned to the higher frequency side.
This is a great review. I'm scouting for a new audio system, and this review is hammering home the point that I don't need to spend endless amounts of $$$ for a rock-solid amp. (And I only stream music). Well done. Thank you!
I am learning so much and I'm binging on your videos trying to catch up to the 21st cenrury.i want to thank you so very much to welcoming me to your channel That was truly wonderful to me and very unexpected.
Great video Andrew and Kristi! My QOTD answer is “hell yes” based on your opinion of the amplifier and its ability to drive all of your speakers. Seems like a no-brainer. Love the channel, see you Sunday!
This review couldn't have been more timely. I'm in the market for a streaming amp and had settled on the NAD M10 but was feeling ambivalent about it. I can afford the M10 but was reeeeaaaally wishing there were a roughly equivalent but less expensive alternative. If the Powernode compares favorably to the NAD M33 (which is out of range for me) then I suspect it's an even better value vs the M10. Thanks to you and Kristi both for all the work you put into the channel which in turn kept a good chunk of cash in my pocket!
Same here! I had my heart set on the M10 but now my wallet is screaming at me. I could possibly hold out to the M10's successor as I know it is in its final stages of the life cycle but...
I'll wait for the review, but if Andrew likes the PowerNode better than the M33 he's off his rocker. It really depends on the speakers (in spite of his claim that the PowerNode works with everything). One of my rigs features a pair of Studio Electric M3's, which really respond to power. I tried both the PowerNode and Naim Uniti Atom with them but both paled in comparison to when I hooked the M33 up. If you are driving a speaker that Andrew tried it with, great--but don't just assume. The PowerNode is really good though and honestly if you don't love it, you can flip it for maybe a $150 loss so it's worth trying first.
@@badgerdms - my strong suspicion is that the issue isn't really whether the M33 is better - I expect it is and I suspect the review to say as much. Heck, the fact the M33 includes the full version of Dirac objectively makes it better. Instead, the question is "does it provide 5x better performance given a 5x higher price?" Like you said, we'll have to wait for the review. That said, for me the M33 was never on the table - I'm not willing to spend M33 kind of kind of money. I was just happy to find an alternative integrated amp that was both well reviewed and less than 1/2 the price of the M10. I ended up getting the Powernode and I'm EXTREMELY happy with it. My speakers are very sensitive (92db@1 watt) and sound noticeably better in several ways with the Node than my previous amp (an 80s vintage MCS).
I was looking at one of these to use for a system in my basement that is primarily used for tv watching and occasionally streaming music. I had a high end Sony soundbar years ago but for what I paid it wasn't worth it. My mission was to find a 2 channel amp/receiver with HDMI ARC. Before I saw this I was on the fence about getting the Marantz NR1200 but I am not sold on the Heos ecosystem. I tried a Sonos amp and didn't care for the sound. Instead of paying $950 for the powernode I ended up getting the Node N130 which is basically the preamp section of this. I have it connected to an Emotiva BasX A2 amp. For a little more money I have 160 watts of Class A/B power at 8 ohms. I'm running a pair of SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers and an SVS micro 3000. The system does exactly what I wants it to do. Turns on and off with my TV remote, has great sound and allows me to stream on good speakers in my basement.
I auditioned the previous Powernode 2i earlier in the year, and paired with the PSB speakers the dealer set up, I hated it. It was bright and shrill, and didn’t work well with rock, although other genres ranged from ok to not so good. It put me off Class D. I ended up purchasing a used NAD m10, and was scared, as it was another Class D amp, and I really enjoy it. Curious to know how much the new Powernode has closed the gap. Am keen to see your new NAD m33 review - the Hyrbid Digital amplification suggests it would be a class above the Powernode
I agree. These reviewers always gloss over the fact these Node products are SHRILLLLLL! They are bright and super fatiguing. IF you add a separate DAC to the mix, then you have a decent streamer.
I agree with you. It was bright and shrill, and didn’t work well with rock, although other genres ranged from ok to not so good. I had it for 2 months, first on the bw 606s 2. Then on the Dali oberon 3, which is a much better speaker than the 606s 2. Bright, thin and shrill on both. I can not understand that people do not hear it.
Powernode is an excellent value solution. At $5k the M33 is 6x more expensive with ( Purifi Eigentakt hybrid amp section) maybe 40% improvement in sound quality, but not features. My guess is that the towers you can't yet name are Paradigm'snew 120h. Thank you both for reviewing more accessible products, such as the Powernode, as well as audioplhile gear such as the "unamed" tower speakers.
I'd be interested in your opinion of the Bluesound Pulse Soundbar+. I installed one this weekend, hooked up a Yamaha audio 10" 100W sub, and it's killer sound... Some 'back info', I had a Definitive Mythos XTR-SSA5 and Polk PSW108 hooked up to a Marantz low profile (don't remember the model) receiver for about 10 years. The receiver died, and the sub was acting funky, so it was time for a new set up. Plus I just replace a 2017 65" LG E7 with a 2023 LG 65" C3 (E7 in now the 'basement' TV). I got the LG SC9S soundbar and sub, did not like it, gave it a couple of weeks but it went back to the store. Took the Bose 600 from the basement TV to give that a shot, OK, but neither were close to the Definitive. After some research and looking at Polk, Sonos, Sennheiser and Nakamichi (not the Dragon, I have a small to mid-size space), I liked the look, specs and the ability to plug in any decent 3rd party sub into the Bluesound, plus the ability to add wireless rears down the road. It not only came close to the Definitive, but surpassed it. And it's very simple plug and play. Plug the HDMI into the eARC port, plug the sub into the sub-out port and it just works. Plus the BluOs app is really easy and offers a fair amount of options and control.
Do you still recommend it on 2024? also I'm thinking in pairing the powernode with a pair of KEF Q750, I have an onkyo 8270 and I want to improve my system, and the powernode is on my list
The Node system is pretty cool. I have the Nad M33 and I would say the DIRAC room correction capabilities of it are an ESSENTIAL feature of the amp, not an interesting aside. Future-fi needs to be reviewed by people who find value in the future-fi capabilities otherwise it's all a bit of a misfit proposition. Thanks for the excellent work. Always enjoy it.
This is my opinon: The Sonos Amp defently lack depth on all speakers I have compared it with. Even the Bluesound powernode 2I beats the Sonos Amp. The details are more present, cleaner and you get a precise punch. The sonos amp is not bad in any way, but most people wanting the sonos amp are the ones that already have sonos. The new powernode is worth the listen, and if you can compare those two do it! You will be surprised, maybe the sonos amp and its 2x125 watt is what makes it sell, but in my opinion it does not sound that in control nor that good. Would be cool to see how big the sonos amp power supply acctually is. Anyways i think Sonos does not deliver in the HiFi spectrum yet. Sonos is user friendly, has nice design, and is simple.
@@time9002 Thanks for your reply. I did actually test sonos amp and Powernode both with a pair of KEF LS50 metas and one SVS SB2000pro and I agree with you on the fact that Powernode has slightly better clarity and details but sonos amp is not bad or muddy by any means. It is a bit warmer and more laid back which I would prefer for many songs. Bass is more punchier with the Power node but I found Powernode not handling movies well compared to sonos. Sound effects and dialogs were disengaged in movies with the Powernode, it was like artificially bad proportioned sound mixing. But sonos amp did a lot better with movies (I know it does not do as well as a good AVR but it was satisfactory for me) and the last thing is the app, Sonos app is way better than the Powernode both is supported services, day to day work and functionality. Switching between sources is instant and automatic with sonos but not with Powernode. For all of these, I kept the sonos amp and I am happy with that.
@@VahidHm Cool nice insight on movies. I have not tried either for film at all. Which means you are probably right. I just prefer the Bluesound from a music stereo perspective, and I do not really bother that much about how user friendly these brands are. Mostly because it is adaptable and you get used to both. Then again I can really see why people are chosing Sonos due to the user experience. I simply dont bother, because i can easly manage and fully use both systems. So maybe that settles it Sonos for everything ? (Sonos if technoligy is a hassle aswell). Bluesound for HiFi/Stereo experience? There is also the price difference too. Hard choise for many when neither are bad. I guess if you have Nad with bluos, just stick to bluesound in general.
I think the Powernode makes perfect sense in small apartments or where space is an issue. Guess the other question is if anyone would cross-shop this against Sonos or any other wireless setup?
As someone quite new to the audiophile world looking to buy my first system I LOVE the idea of this product! Only one thing bothering me in the back of my mind is let's say bluesound were to go out of business, would this make this product useless since everything is controlled by the app? Sorry I'm not at all tech savvy lol. Thanks.
Thanks for the review, Andrew and Christie. I’ve been using a Bluesound system for several years based on a Vault 2, which allows me to rip and store my CD collection (on-going project) and downloaded HiRes files. I also used a Node 2 for my smaller living room system and have recently added a stereo pair of Pulse Flex 2i. They all sound great, though I do run the digital signal from the Vault through a separate DAC in my main system. Bluesound is very good about keeping their software and firmware up-to-date, which is pretty painless over a wifi or Ethernet connection. The ability to integrate other streaming options such as Tidal, Amazon HD, TuneIn, and Radio Paradise (now in MQA over Bluesound devices) is just the icing on a very user-friendly system. I noticed a great improvement in sound quality once I moved from my Mac Mini based system to Bluesound, and the ease of use, sealed the deal.
@@sleepythi It’s not in the same league as the Sonos. You’d have to spend double to get something a bit better. Just waiting for native Apple Music support to try hi-res out. As I said, I don’t consider Sonos ‘Hi Fi’ it’s for a generation of people raised on MP3s and streaming.
A friend who I never thought would stream anything as he has a house full of vinyl, bought a node recently and loved it. He finds the BluOS app very easy to use. He's a digital technophobe so they're on to something 😉
Great review, A&K. I understand the NAD M10 is no longer new but comparing the Powernode to the M33, while curious, is not really relevant given the price disparity. The M10 isn’t new but it’s the more appropriate comparison to make. IMHO, folks are unlikely to cross-shop Powernode and M33 but maaaay consider stretching to the M10 if it was “worth it”. I’d love to see what you think between the two. Good job!
Answer to your question, Yes, although I tested the previous Powernode versus the NAD M10, I went with the M10 due to the additional power, if the new Powernode was out at the time with the additional power I would have gone with it for sure.
Nice review, Ty Andrew. I paired my new Power Node to KLH Model 5's, and No subwoofer, the result: This simple system sounds really really nice, love the combination.
Great video! I really think the Powernode is a great device for someone who just wants to play music and not deal with all the issues with a stereo setup.
Yes I do think it is a great solution. I had the node 2i and loved it aside from some nasty WiFi issues (not the nodes fault) and wound up returning because of it. But it was pretty damn great when the WiFi worked. I’m actually shocked you don’t already have one.
Instead of a Powernode + Passive speaker combo it's probably cheaper to get a Node + Active studio monitors, plus it will probably sound better than most passive speakers since you'll get active crossover and biamping. You get a lot more sound for the money with studio gear compared to HiFi.
Don’t forget Thomas, Zeos, and Sean at ZF also dropped vids as well. Might I also suggest a few other channels: Soundnews (Sandu), Passion For Sound (Lachlan), and the next best thing (Sean).
So I’ve wanted to get a music fidelity amp and I think this will work better for me what am I’m losing if go to the power node instead of the music fidelity m3si ?
I hope the 8k towers is a PSB, I have a PSB Imagine T2 and its a very good speaker😉 Since you already have the NAD M33 and the Powernode all from Lenbrook Group that's why my guess is a PSB😊 Really enjoyed the review today. And I want one. Thank you Andrew and Kristi!
Great analysis! I have B&W 607 S2 that I currently power with the POWERNODE Edge with a Bluesound Pulse Sub +. I was thinking of getting a little more volume by going up to the 80 watts in the POWERNODE. Why do you think that the POWERNODE is such a bad match with the B & W 607 S2? Thx!
I am glad this review was couched as just getting into hi-fi. It informs the viewer this should not be the "end all" of what can be realized. It of course should fall upon the individual interested in hi-fi to grow and discover there can be improvements to what they can hear. Those who need not go any further, awesome. But I"m appreciative the perception isn't that this is all that will be experienced.
The M33 includes Dirac. Do you plan to use that in your review/comparison? If so I recommend taking some time to understand it and tweak your response curve for your room if possible, take care with measurements and calibration etc. It's straightforward but not foolproof.
Great review! I think the Yamaha NR 803 or the nad C 338 are good alternatives to the Powernode with a phono stage and full size analogue imputs, or for separates the Cambridge audio AXR 100 + Bluesound Node.
I previously owned the Node 2i, and sold it to a good friend who loved it. I just ordered the new Node 2 days ago to pair with a Musical Fidelity M2si, a Denafrips Ares II, and a pair of Canton Ergo 22 DC’s.
@@jefflacey154 Maybe you should listen to one first. At least check the specs, it has almost double the power. They are both streaming devices with digital amps and the Sonos will drive more types of speakers with greater efficiency.
@@Scalptrash Nope. The Sonos Amp fell flat on it's ass driving a pair of the original KEF LS50s, the Bluesound (and less supposed power) does a much better job.
Nice job as usual guys and admittedly I've heard the Powernode in a high end HIFI shop of all places and yes it just sounded amazing ,with a pair of Sonus Faber bookshelves and a pair of Aeperion bookshelves .Both pairings sounded much higher end than the cost of the actual setups .
I agree! I picked up the Node 2 (2021 version) and the PowerNode 2 (2021 version) and they're staples in my systems. I will pick up another Node down the line and use it as a digital pre-amp with my Rotel amplifier. Basically do all volume control through the app. I love your reviews man! And your insights and point of views. They line up with my own and I am glad someone is speaking up and afraid to point out the misinformation that goes around and hocus pocus of sound magically improving due to break in or cables or what not.
So you can use a power amp with the node 2021, would that make it essentially a powermode with just better amplification? I’m looking at getting a powermode but would also consider getting a node with a separate two channel amp. My only concern is hdmi, my tv doesn’t have e-arc it’s old, and I have a nvidia shield I would need to get hdmi audio to the powermode and then someone get the video back to the tv. Right now I use a Denon Avr receiver with HEOS for music and it has many hdmi.
these bluesounds and the Sonos system both have the same problem for me in that they don't do anything without involving the app, and the speaker app kinda lives separately from my music apps, maybe i'm just kinda spoiled because my speakers just play whatever comes in either input, the apps put all their focus on making it easy to group speakers and move sound around, but that easiness wears thin when you constantly have to do it yourself, and can't configure the speakers to do things without help
I would love the simplicity and convenience of the Powernode but I wonder if I would be better served with something like the Cambridge Audio AXR100 and the Powernode streamer only. Thanks for a great review as always, huge fan of the channel.
This falls in line with my thinking as well. I recently purchased the new Bluesound Node and have it paired with a separate integrated amplifier (the Technics SU-G700 to be exact). I personally like the flexibility of having a few more extra inputs than the Powernode offers. While I have no experience with it, the Cambridge is probably a great option to add to the Node. At the end of the day this would only add about $250 but I would guess it is worth it.
Would this pair well with KEF LS50 Meta? Will be used for both music and movies. For movies specifically I am very picky about hearing dialogue clearly, which I observe some receivers to seriously screw up.
I bought the Powernode to drive B&W 607 S2 speakers and ASW610 subwoofer., replacing an Arcam Uno Solo (which I did like very much). Maybe I didn't tune it right, but the Powernode did not gel with the 607 speakers and subwoofer. I replaced it with the Powernode Edge and it was a perfect match for the 607s. I moved the Powernode to drive 4 x B&W AM1 external speakers and it was a perfect match. Drove them beautifully. Also switches to some in-ceiling speakers in the kitchen. What I really like is that I can merge the Powernode and Powernode Edge so I can have the same music inside and out. Very hghly recommended.
Hi, curious why you didn't like the Powernode on the B&Ws? We have B&W 704s and some 600s as you mentioned in your review. Thanks and love the channel!
I have connected the new Node (not Powernode) to a Naim Uniti Atom (RCA). In this setup, with my ears, the sound from the new Bluesound is better then the sound from the internal streamer in the Atom. I’m streaming from Qobuz and Tidal. I find that very interesting.
These are such a cool concept. Better than a soundbar and does all the “cool stuff” a soundbar/streaming device does. But you get to use a really nice pair of speakers. Oh, and it’s a much better looking system than a soundbar.
If you do 75% TV and movie watching and 25% music (but value sound quality with music more) then thoughts on this and speakers vs the Sony HT-A9 and SA-SW5 Sub? I'm thinking about the Powernode and the Buchardt S400 MKII in particular but happy if you provide a different speaker recommendation.
You have to consider that it is 3 products in one, an amp, a dac and a streamer. The streamer/dac (Bluesound NODE is $600, so you are getting a a good amp for $350. That is cheap,. Btw, I just got a Powernode and paired it with a original pair of Rogers LS3/5a. I have no idea why anyone would want controls and displays on a product operated by a mobile phone,
I have not opened The Fives. Should I return them? I want simplicity with ARC and I already have passive speakers to work with. I basically just stream your videos, Netflix and some Apple Music.
All in one solution for me so far is the NAD M10 with dual sub outs and the BluOS operating system with ARC / eARC. Though I am running my M10 with Dali rubicon 2's with 2 REL subs (T7i's) that actually don't use the pre outs on M10 due to Rel's High Level Output connection (would like your thoughts on that connection as well actually)? Is it a good thing? I did have the old Powernode but just found 60 watts was just not enough. I am curious though what amp you would pair a node with to get you more power than what the power node offers? To me that would be very interesting! I think Bluesound competes well and beats Sonos in quality it can stream to its speakers! I am also now very curious about the Bluesound wireless speakers you spoke of since they own PSB as well. I have had some of the older model of Bluesound speakers (pulse Flex 2i) and enjoyed them but wish they could have just been able to do better with home theatre streaming.
@@KristiWright oops! Absolutely DON'T want to get crosswise with Kristi! Besides, my real interest here was the performance with the KLHs because they have similar design to my beloved EPI 100s and I could see paring the 'Nodes to the EPIs.
I had the Powernode 2i. Liked it at first, but compared it to my dad's Outlaw Audio receiver and found the Powernode's stereo image seriously lacking in depth.
I think that the lack of Chromecast built-in is a serious omission, and you didn't mention it at all. It's fine when it's missing from an AV receiver since those get (e)ARCed to a TV which most likely has Chromecast built-in, but in a stereo "all-in-one" streamer/amp, which might or might not really be connected to a TV (if only TVs had more than one (e)ARC ports), it's a big omission in my opinion. And since you really are sometimes nitpicking about stuff (which I love btw), not mentioning this is weird. I also suggest you take in account the ability of a stereo amp to work in conjunction with an AV receiver for stereo sound in your stereo amp reviews, i.e. the ability to use the front speakers of a surround system connected to an AV receiver. The AV receiver needs to have front LF preouts obviously, but most do. Speaking of which, any chance you can get a hold of an Arcam SA30? It's on my wish list for a while for an all-in-one stereo amp/streamer, with the key thing being that it can work in conjunction with an AV receiver in a surround setup, powering only the front two channels for two channel listening. P.S. You are one of the reasons I'm a proud owner of a Yamaha RX-V6A and I love it, so thanks for that review :). It's paired with Klipsch RP600Ms for fronts and the reference Klipsch line for center, sub and surrounds. I feel that the RP600Ms can sound better with a dedicated quality stereo amplification, and I've seen a few comments online (maybe even including your own) that they react positively to higher quality electronics, which is why I'm considering a nice stereo amp to put between the Yamaha and the Klipsch for two channel listening.
It does, but my point is it won't necesseraly be hooked to a TV, unlike an AV receiver. I guess a lot of people already have AVRs hooked to their TVs and can't add this to the TV as well. It also might be located in another room where there is no TV at all, so having to have a TV hooked up to it to have chromecast capability is not really an option for some.
Oh I hope that Canadian tower review is the new Synchrony t600 series from PSB...;) Maybe? I saw some press back in April and then crickets. I use a pair of the previous Synchrony 1Bs and adore them. Until then I wait with bated breath!
Loved the video on this budget oriented new to hifi amp, but where’s your favorite phono preamp? You don’t have one listed in your Amazon reference gear set, and I’m looking for one. As of now I’m eyeing the u-turn preamp from your partnership video and the fluance pa10. Could I go wrong with either of these? Any other recommendations on phono preamps $120 and lower? A video including such a topic would be very helpful to a budding enthusiast.
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the reason I stopped using BluOS is that it randomly freezes for lengthy periods (requiring a restart) when adding new items to the library; when it lists songs, it comes up with odd listings and it is much less intuitive and more difficult to use than Roon. Even my old winamp was much better software than BluOS...winamp has nice clear listings by comparison. Roon works very smoothly, easily recognizes new songs in the library and is very intuitive.
If only it had a full fat input for a turntable - I would call it a perfect combo of price / power / functionality.
I love my new Powernode. It drives my Magneplanars with ease. Sent back the new Marantz integrated I was auditioning (no comparison) and retired my vintage Harman Kardon integrated (which I still love). Also retired my Node 2i until I can set up a new bedroom system. The Powernode’s clarity and soundstage with the Maggies is special. I’ve downsized from turntable, open reel, MD, CD, etc. to Powernode only streaming from Tidal and FLAC files of my CD library on an NAS. I value the simplicity and elegance (and exceptional sound experience) of the Powernode.
Its is almost there. To me, I want at least 5.2 or 7.2. And class a/b would be better.
As what is becoming a habit for you, great review :-D
Sounds like this one took the peach! If I wasn't a A/V fanatic with a great room this one would do me.
After thirty years longing for 2-channel again I went to my local hifi-dealer in 2020. They presented Bluesound Powernode 2i(2x60 watt). They had paired it with B&W 707 s2. At first when listening to it in their listening room I thought they were pulling my leg. My first thought was "How is it possible that these small loudspeakers with this small amplifier can sound so fantastic". It was just jaw-dropping. For instance, the bass coming out from these small elements is amazing. The problem I have now is that it sounds better than my other amplifier which cost 4 times more.
I took your advice and bought 1. I was going to use it in backyard/patio/pool area. It was on back order and finally arrived this week. I plugged it into my brand new Forte iii's (great open box discount/close out on Crutchfield) just to try it out. Wow! I will not be putting this one in the back yard! First, sounds great with the Forte's! Second, great App, and the HDMI Arc as you said, is brilliant, plus the sub-out control is awesome. I liked it so much I just ordered another one for the patio and another one for the back of the house! The sound/quality/App/features at this point seems unbeatable to me! Thanks for the review!
I like the idea of the Powernode for a complete system, with a good bookshelf or efficient speaker like the Klipsch you could have a nice setup. Especially if you don't need or want all the separates. Good thing for people with limited space.
I've always enjoyed audio equipment and I absolutely love this channel. I like the honest reviews and the depth you go into for your reviews.
This is a GREAT minimalist audiophile option. This system would look clean w just this, the model 5s and a tv.
Exactly what I’ve put together...well the M
KLH 5s are on backorder...but someday soon
*Stereo system. This ain't audiophile.
I am so GLAD that you guys have mentioned the Powernode multiple times in various videos! I got one and it has beaten all other receivers I have recently tried out at home. Class A/B amps gave me distortion, warmth, punchy bass and greater listening fatigue. Other class D amps were underwhelming for me --or too much the same as old receivers I had: colder, trebly, empty in the mids, and poor on bass performance (Yamaha, Onkyo in the budget category). Sidenote: the NAD C 268 was the WORST amp I tried recently. The Powernode is the one for me with its sound and its features. Thank you!
I just heard the PowerNode connected to a pair of B+W 705 S2's and was blown away with the overall experience. I had been looking at 2 channel equipment that was many, many thousands of dollars more and just couldn't get over how good the PowerNode was in comparison - kind of a no brainer for me. Thanks for directing me to this great piece of equipment.
I think you're correct that the Node gets extremely close to the point of diminishing return. For less the Unity Atom, it's possible to purchase the Node, a set of KEF LS 50 Metas, and a decent flat panel TV.
I would like to know the comparison below :😁
KEF LS50 wireless 2 vs Meta + power node
@@jackshchan1 agree, Andrew we would love to hear your take on the Powernode with the Metas!
@@jackshchan1 totally agree. Would love to know.
@@spencerjones2035 +1. This is probably a very popular pairing! In fact, Bluesound had an offer months (years?) ago when you bought the LS50 with the Powernode.
This is the 2 set up I’m deciding. I hope he made a video so I can make my decision!
My favorite hifi UA-cam vlogger, I can’t wait to see even more growth!
Aww, thanks!
That's so nice!
As a beginner in the hifi world, this is really appealing to me, especially with the eARC HDMI port. I only wish there was an ability to add a centre channel because I don't care much for rears. This would be perfect.
Just buy a pair of bookshelf’s that have a good center image like the LS50 meta. You will hardly miss the centre channel. Dialogue will appear to come from the middle and will be crystal clear with the meta’s
Oh mate, thank you for this review. I've been hanging out for you guys to do this Powernode review. I value your better half's comments just as much as yours Andrew. Again, thank you both!!!
This is future - fi and to your question, I do think it will be an all in one quality sound and design solution for many who lean towards a savvy and elegant minimalism and plug & play flex on the digital, aesthetic and set up front. I totally dig their node streamer/dac and the BS App. If they were to ever do a 100W, they could just crush it for the same audience; for those who have more power hungry speakers or who want what an extra 20w would bring. They sure do have some amazing talent designing and marketing their stuff and with years of experience in the industry.
I’m new to this stuff and I’m very happy. I got my Powernode a couple weeks ago and I watched this video with the audio out via eARC to an old set of Yamaha speakers. I love the convenience and simplicity and the sound. Some day the KLH Model 5’s I ordered 2 months ago will get here and I can truly rock the house!
I use the dots on top for changing presets...it’s very handy.
Really, once again, your pace of putting out new videos is nothing short of amazing!
Thanks for continuing to tune in and for all your support!
Okay, okay, I’m think I have to get this one. The inclusion of ARC/eARC is really the game changer. I have posted on other videos about trying to use zone 2 for the main system and trying to get best sound in a small room. The fact that I can hook my TV and subwoofer to this plus make a 4.1 system AND be able to make whole home audio system with my main AVR when I upgrade to a NAD pretty much seals the deal. The only downside is not having Dirac or another room correction but I think that is outweighed by all the other benefits!
Hello Andrew & Community, I own the Bluesound Powernode N330 paired with ELAC UN-FI 2.0 UB52 Speakers and a Schiit Loki Mini +
The speakers are mounted on wall brackets about 5” - 6” from the wall because I’m limited for room space!
I’m very pleased with the complete system set up that I have and this is all played through TIDAL MQA
The new Powernode for me is an amazing piece of equipment in such a small and attractive (black) package.
Simply awesome 👍🏻
Thanks for the review. Was all over the place with what 2 channel setup to go with. After this review I pulled the trigger on it. Tonight hooked it up to a pair of RP-600m and a SVS sub. WOW. I am blown with the sound that came out of such a small package. Honestly when I unboxed it I had my doubts. After playing it for a couple of hours at half volume. More than impressed. The app is very easy to use and setup. Thanks again. Money well spent
You didn’t cover the fact the new Node applies a digital high pass filter to your speakers if you connect a sub and set the sub low crossover in the app. Probably one of the most impressive features of this AIO box!
I have a Blusound node streamer with that same feature. It’s the best way to integrate a sub. Very useful indeed!
@@choronzo202 And so you connect your “sub” at the Bluesound Node level as well as output via RCA to an amplifier?
@@alantty You connect your subwoofer to the subwoofer out on your node. Then connect your line out from your node to the amplifier. And when in app you mark that you are using subwoofer the crossover cuts away bass from your line out like an active crossover. So your amplifier amplifies a signal without bass. Perfect! Super good explanation in not my native language if I may say
re QOTD: Sonos Amp. Sonos is usually omitted from conversation on audiophile channels but the Amp also appears to offer generous power output that I would think would enhance some of the same speaker pairings you tested. An important differentiator for me is the app integration with Apple Music -- not just Airplay2. Would be great to see a review of that component as a comparable.
I've also been in the market for a starter pair of audiophile speakers and plan to pair them with a Sonos Amp (I'm already invested in their ecosystem). The best I can do research-wise is to note the preferred speaker pairings of all the competitor music streaming players (the Naim, Arylic, and now the Powernode) and trust that the same speaker pairings might work with the Sonos.
It works, but you will downgrade any speaker when using a Sonos amp. Don’t let the specs fool you. That was funny because they don’t even release serious specs.
@@BRRAAAPP1 Interesting. Very good to know. I might just be succumbing to their polished marketing (reminds me of at least one other big branded speaker company with large market share). I'll proceed with caution with the Sonos Amp - a side by side comparison with the Powernode is probably what I need to do.
Thanks for your comment!
@@markh2038 Yes, compare them and you will see what I mean :)
I think it's perfect! After my unboxing of the Powernode and in my eagerness to get it up and running, I connected my headphones to it and configured things while listening to the unit. Totally impressed, took me a bit to getting the speakers setup. The unit is small enough to sit comfortably on your desk, which makes the controls on top easily accessible while using the headphone jack (so as to not disturb others). Once away from my desktop, the app is also perfect on either the MacBook or iPhone. My first experience with Bluesound is good :)
Appreciate you sharing your real world experience!
One concern probably people of other states do not express. We do not have problem with paying its price, thanks to California salaries, but our houses are too small, so generally I have no space where to put this beautiful device. So your channel is the place where I can enjoy the powernode.
I’m am so glad you reviewed this piece from bluesound. I just got my T778 hooked up and I am enjoying the bluesound app and may want to expand to other rooms.
Also since I just hooked up my speakers, has there always been a bass drop when Kristi’s take starts? I thought something dropped when I heard it. 😂
Thanks for another great review and I’m glad you guys are reaching that 200k mark. You guys deserve it. I hope you guys hit the millions mark.
NGL whatever microphone setup you use is working for me. Had to pull this over to my LS50s to listen. Thanks for the great review. This might be what I look for in the future
You guys are really good. Every day I eagerly check UA-cam to see if you have a new review. After seeing John Darko’s review of Powernode I seriously began to consider buying it, instead of a more sophisticated and costly solution like Gato. You have convinced me that this is the way to go for me. Thanks.
I own a pair of B&W 606 S2, which are they same speakers as you used in your review if i am correct. I was thinking of pairing them with the powernode 2i, why did you think those two were not a match?
"You can set crossover inside the app or subwoofer" is not as simple as stated. Inside the app with the slider knob, it is also setting high-pass-filter for the main speakers. Since output to the sub is low-pass-filtered by the Powernode, knob in the sub should at least be equal to what is set in the app or turned to the higher frequency side.
This is a great review. I'm scouting for a new audio system, and this review is hammering home the point that I don't need to spend endless amounts of $$$ for a rock-solid amp. (And I only stream music). Well done. Thank you!
No doubt, an expensive hobby that the two of you give us a range of reviews. Thanks tons for opening our eyes to a full range spectrum
Class review as always. Just subscribed and for the life of me I can’t understand why I haven’t done it sooner. Great real world reviews
I am learning so much and I'm binging on your videos trying to catch up to the 21st cenrury.i want to thank you so very much to welcoming me to your channel
That was truly wonderful to me and very unexpected.
Woah woah. What about the Yamaha WXA-50? You get a streamer, amp, dac, digital inputs for $550. Would be a good head to head comparison.
I got the new NODE instead because I felt it had more flexibility with amps and dac's if I wanted down the road. I love the crossover control as well.
Great review. How does the sound quality of this new powernode compare to the Cambridge Audio combo of CXN V2 and their CXA81 amp?
Great video Andrew and Kristi! My QOTD answer is “hell yes” based on your opinion of the amplifier and its ability to drive all of your speakers. Seems like a no-brainer.
Love the channel, see you Sunday!
This review couldn't have been more timely. I'm in the market for a streaming amp and had settled on the NAD M10 but was feeling ambivalent about it. I can afford the M10 but was reeeeaaaally wishing there were a roughly equivalent but less expensive alternative. If the Powernode compares favorably to the NAD M33 (which is out of range for me) then I suspect it's an even better value vs the M10. Thanks to you and Kristi both for all the work you put into the channel which in turn kept a good chunk of cash in my pocket!
Same here! I had my heart set on the M10 but now my wallet is screaming at me. I could possibly hold out to the M10's successor as I know it is in its final stages of the life cycle but...
I'll wait for the review, but if Andrew likes the PowerNode better than the M33 he's off his rocker. It really depends on the speakers (in spite of his claim that the PowerNode works with everything). One of my rigs features a pair of Studio Electric M3's, which really respond to power. I tried both the PowerNode and Naim Uniti Atom with them but both paled in comparison to when I hooked the M33 up. If you are driving a speaker that Andrew tried it with, great--but don't just assume. The PowerNode is really good though and honestly if you don't love it, you can flip it for maybe a $150 loss so it's worth trying first.
@@badgerdms - my strong suspicion is that the issue isn't really whether the M33 is better - I expect it is and I suspect the review to say as much. Heck, the fact the M33 includes the full version of Dirac objectively makes it better. Instead, the question is "does it provide 5x better performance given a 5x higher price?" Like you said, we'll have to wait for the review. That said, for me the M33 was never on the table - I'm not willing to spend M33 kind of kind of money. I was just happy to find an alternative integrated amp that was both well reviewed and less than 1/2 the price of the M10. I ended up getting the Powernode and I'm EXTREMELY happy with it. My speakers are very sensitive (92db@1 watt) and sound noticeably better in several ways with the Node than my previous amp (an 80s vintage MCS).
I was looking at one of these to use for a system in my basement that is primarily used for tv watching and occasionally streaming music. I had a high end Sony soundbar years ago but for what I paid it wasn't worth it. My mission was to find a 2 channel amp/receiver with HDMI ARC. Before I saw this I was on the fence about getting the Marantz NR1200 but I am not sold on the Heos ecosystem. I tried a Sonos amp and didn't care for the sound.
Instead of paying $950 for the powernode I ended up getting the Node N130 which is basically the preamp section of this. I have it connected to an Emotiva BasX A2 amp. For a little more money I have 160 watts of Class A/B power at 8 ohms. I'm running a pair of SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers and an SVS micro 3000. The system does exactly what I wants it to do. Turns on and off with my TV remote, has great sound and allows me to stream on good speakers in my basement.
I auditioned the previous Powernode 2i earlier in the year, and paired with the PSB speakers the dealer set up, I hated it. It was bright and shrill, and didn’t work well with rock, although other genres ranged from ok to not so good. It put me off Class D. I ended up purchasing a used NAD m10, and was scared, as it was another Class D amp, and I really enjoy it. Curious to know how much the new Powernode has closed the gap. Am keen to see your new NAD m33 review - the Hyrbid Digital amplification suggests it would be a class above the Powernode
I agree. These reviewers always gloss over the fact these Node products are SHRILLLLLL! They are bright and super fatiguing. IF you add a separate DAC to the mix, then you have a decent streamer.
I agree with you. It was bright and shrill, and didn’t work well with rock, although other genres ranged from ok to not so good. I had it for 2 months, first on the bw 606s 2. Then on the Dali oberon 3, which is a much better speaker than the 606s 2. Bright, thin and shrill on both. I can not understand that people do not hear it.
Powernode is an excellent value solution. At $5k the M33 is 6x more expensive with ( Purifi Eigentakt hybrid amp section) maybe 40% improvement in sound quality, but not features.
My guess is that the towers you can't yet name are Paradigm'snew 120h. Thank you both for reviewing more accessible products, such as the Powernode, as well as audioplhile gear such as the "unamed" tower speakers.
I'd be interested in your opinion of the Bluesound Pulse Soundbar+. I installed one this weekend, hooked up a Yamaha audio 10" 100W sub, and it's killer sound...
Some 'back info', I had a Definitive Mythos XTR-SSA5 and Polk PSW108 hooked up to a Marantz low profile (don't remember the model) receiver for about 10 years. The receiver died, and the sub was acting funky, so it was time for a new set up. Plus I just replace a 2017 65" LG E7 with a 2023 LG 65" C3 (E7 in now the 'basement' TV). I got the LG SC9S soundbar and sub, did not like it, gave it a couple of weeks but it went back to the store. Took the Bose 600 from the basement TV to give that a shot, OK, but neither were close to the Definitive. After some research and looking at Polk, Sonos, Sennheiser and Nakamichi (not the Dragon, I have a small to mid-size space), I liked the look, specs and the ability to plug in any decent 3rd party sub into the Bluesound, plus the ability to add wireless rears down the road. It not only came close to the Definitive, but surpassed it. And it's very simple plug and play. Plug the HDMI into the eARC port, plug the sub into the sub-out port and it just works. Plus the BluOs app is really easy and offers a fair amount of options and control.
Don´t forget that "the Powernode" can learn every IR-Command form every IR-Remote! Super nice Feature!! :)
Do you still recommend it on 2024?
also I'm thinking in pairing the powernode with a pair of KEF Q750, I have an onkyo 8270 and I want to improve my system, and the powernode is on my list
The Node system is pretty cool. I have the Nad M33 and I would say the DIRAC room correction capabilities of it are an ESSENTIAL feature of the amp, not an interesting aside. Future-fi needs to be reviewed by people who find value in the future-fi capabilities otherwise it's all a bit of a misfit proposition. Thanks for the excellent work. Always enjoy it.
I wish you could compare it with Sonos Amp. I know they are difficult to find nowadays but they are very comparable with this Bluesound powernode.
This is my opinon: The Sonos Amp defently lack depth on all speakers I have compared it with. Even the Bluesound powernode 2I beats the Sonos Amp. The details are more present, cleaner and you get a precise punch. The sonos amp is not bad in any way, but most people wanting the sonos amp are the ones that already have sonos. The new powernode is worth the listen, and if you can compare those two do it! You will be surprised, maybe the sonos amp and its 2x125 watt is what makes it sell, but in my opinion it does not sound that in control nor that good. Would be cool to see how big the sonos amp power supply acctually is. Anyways i think Sonos does not deliver in the HiFi spectrum yet. Sonos is user friendly, has nice design, and is simple.
@@time9002 Thanks for your reply. I did actually test sonos amp and Powernode both with a pair of KEF LS50 metas and one SVS SB2000pro and I agree with you on the fact that Powernode has slightly better clarity and details but sonos amp is not bad or muddy by any means. It is a bit warmer and more laid back which I would prefer for many songs. Bass is more punchier with the Power node but I found Powernode not handling movies well compared to sonos. Sound effects and dialogs were disengaged in movies with the Powernode, it was like artificially bad proportioned sound mixing. But sonos amp did a lot better with movies (I know it does not do as well as a good AVR but it was satisfactory for me) and the last thing is the app, Sonos app is way better than the Powernode both is supported services, day to day work and functionality. Switching between sources is instant and automatic with sonos but not with Powernode. For all of these, I kept the sonos amp and I am happy with that.
@@VahidHm Cool nice insight on movies. I have not tried either for film at all. Which means you are probably right. I just prefer the Bluesound from a music stereo perspective, and I do not really bother that much about how user friendly these brands are. Mostly because it is adaptable and you get used to both. Then again I can really see why people are chosing Sonos due to the user experience. I simply dont bother, because i can easly manage and fully use both systems.
So maybe that settles it Sonos for everything ? (Sonos if technoligy is a hassle aswell).
Bluesound for HiFi/Stereo experience?
There is also the price difference too. Hard choise for many when neither are bad.
I guess if you have Nad with bluos, just stick to bluesound in general.
I think the Powernode makes perfect sense in small apartments or where space is an issue. Guess the other question is if anyone would cross-shop this against Sonos or any other wireless setup?
As someone quite new to the audiophile world looking to buy my first system I LOVE the idea of this product! Only one thing bothering me in the back of my mind is let's say bluesound were to go out of business, would this make this product useless since everything is controlled by the app? Sorry I'm not at all tech savvy lol. Thanks.
Thanks for the review, Andrew and Christie. I’ve been using a Bluesound system for several years based on a Vault 2, which allows me to rip and store my CD collection (on-going project) and downloaded HiRes files. I also used a Node 2 for my smaller living room system and have recently added a stereo pair of Pulse Flex 2i. They all sound great, though I do run the digital signal from the Vault through a separate DAC in my main system.
Bluesound is very good about keeping their software and firmware up-to-date, which is pretty painless over a wifi or Ethernet connection. The ability to integrate other streaming options such as Tidal, Amazon HD, TuneIn, and Radio Paradise (now in MQA over Bluesound devices) is just the icing on a very user-friendly system.
I noticed a great improvement in sound quality once I moved from my Mac Mini based system to Bluesound, and the ease of use, sealed the deal.
I've got this one paired with 2 focal chora 826 speakers. Works like a charm! Great review, thanx a lot!
I thank you for this reply. Going to check this combination out aswell!
A very thorough advice. I definitely agreed with the need of full size analogue inputs.
I’ve had this for exactly one hour coming from a 2021 Sonos Amp and it’s much MUCH better.
How are you finding it after a month?
@@sleepythi It’s not in the same league as the Sonos. You’d have to spend double to get something a bit better. Just waiting for native Apple Music support to try hi-res out. As I said, I don’t consider Sonos ‘Hi Fi’ it’s for a generation of people raised on MP3s and streaming.
@@RyRch I’ve used Sonos connect amp previously and LS50w….but will now be moving to the N330, LS50meta and SVS Micro 3000 very soon! Thanks
would be interresting to have a comparison with the sonos amp
A friend who I never thought would stream anything as he has a house full of vinyl, bought a node recently and loved it. He finds the BluOS app very easy to use. He's a digital technophobe so they're on to something 😉
I see HDMI ARC as a must have. Since I am not expert in home theatre what’s the difference between this and the optical out from the TV?
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks. Got you now, especially the volume control. Now it makes sense
Great review, A&K. I understand the NAD M10 is no longer new but comparing the Powernode to the M33, while curious, is not really relevant given the price disparity. The M10 isn’t new but it’s the more appropriate comparison to make. IMHO, folks are unlikely to cross-shop Powernode and M33 but maaaay consider stretching to the M10 if it was “worth it”. I’d love to see what you think between the two. Good job!
Perfect evening when a new video from Andrew and kristi comes up
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@@KristiWright @Andrew Robinson thank you for you great content
Answer to your question, Yes, although I tested the previous Powernode versus the NAD M10, I went with the M10 due to the additional power, if the new Powernode was out at the time with the additional power I would have gone with it for sure.
I wish they would make a bigger model with a front display where you can see what you are playing with album cover and everything, would be so nice.
nice unit, could be the answer for a lot of people who don`t want the fuss of hifi separates
100% agree!
It is! Although I do not have space problems, I love the minimalism of this product a compact and discreet all-in-one
Nice review, Ty Andrew. I paired my new Power Node to KLH Model 5's, and No subwoofer, the result: This simple system sounds really really nice, love the combination.
I wish they would release a version that doesn't have MQA support, because unfortunately MQA licensing increases the cost of the unit.
Great video! I really think the Powernode is a great device for someone who just wants to play music and not deal with all the issues with a stereo setup.
Please tell me you are hinting to a review on paradigm towers…. 👀
Yes I do think it is a great solution.
I had the node 2i and loved it aside from some nasty WiFi issues (not the nodes fault) and wound up returning because of it. But it was pretty damn great when the WiFi worked.
I’m actually shocked you don’t already have one.
Instead of a Powernode + Passive speaker combo it's probably cheaper to get a Node + Active studio monitors, plus it will probably sound better than most passive speakers since you'll get active crossover and biamping. You get a lot more sound for the money with studio gear compared to HiFi.
Oh man I can’t. John Darko, Josh valour, Steve Gutenberg and Andrew in one day
I'm convinced Guttenberg is a vampire that never sleeps and just sits around during the day recording videos. ;-)
Don’t forget Thomas, Zeos, and Sean at ZF also dropped vids as well. Might I also suggest a few other channels: Soundnews (Sandu), Passion For Sound (Lachlan), and the next best thing (Sean).
Tnbt is Jay sorry
@@KristiWright when Kristi’s reply has more likes than your comment 😔
@@aceofspades6667 thanks for the recommendations will surely check them out :)
Nice review. Impressive little box. Quite surprised to hear that it performs better than Naim's unity atom power-wise! Hard to beat value-wise!
So I’ve wanted to get a music fidelity amp and I think this will work better for me what am I’m losing if go to the power node instead of the music fidelity m3si ?
I hope the 8k towers is a PSB, I have a PSB Imagine T2 and its a very good speaker😉
Since you already have the NAD M33 and the Powernode all from Lenbrook Group that's why my guess is a PSB😊 Really enjoyed the review today. And I want one. Thank you Andrew and Kristi!
Great analysis!
I have B&W 607 S2 that I currently power with the POWERNODE Edge with a Bluesound Pulse Sub +. I was thinking of getting a little more volume by going up to the 80 watts in the POWERNODE.
Why do you think that the POWERNODE is such a bad match with the B & W 607 S2?
Thx!
I am glad this review was couched as just getting into hi-fi. It informs the viewer this should not be the "end all" of what can be realized. It of course should fall upon the individual interested in hi-fi to grow and discover there can be improvements to what they can hear. Those who need not go any further, awesome. But I"m appreciative the perception isn't that this is all that will be experienced.
The M33 includes Dirac. Do you plan to use that in your review/comparison? If so I recommend taking some time to understand it and tweak your response curve for your room if possible, take care with measurements and calibration etc. It's straightforward but not foolproof.
This is the front-runner to power my future stereo system when I move out of a tiny apartment in 2 months
Great review! I think the Yamaha NR 803 or the nad C 338 are good alternatives to the Powernode with a phono stage and full size analogue imputs, or for separates the Cambridge audio AXR 100 + Bluesound Node.
I previously owned the Node 2i, and sold it to a good friend who loved it. I just ordered the new Node 2 days ago to pair with a Musical Fidelity M2si, a Denafrips Ares II, and a pair of Canton Ergo 22 DC’s.
Love the work you and Kristi do on your channel and the refreshing look you bring to audio and HiFi. Keep up the great work!
Wonder how this compares to the Sonos Amp. Very similar products. Great review!!
Sonically the Sonos Amp is abysmal and cannot properly a high quality speaker. But the Powernode sure can. And sounds good doing it.
@@jefflacey154 Maybe you should listen to one first. At least check the specs, it has almost double the power. They are both streaming devices with digital amps and the Sonos will drive more types of speakers with greater efficiency.
@@Scalptrash I did listen trashboy and my conclusions stand.
@@Scalptrash Nope. The Sonos Amp fell flat on it's ass driving a pair of the original KEF LS50s, the Bluesound (and less supposed power) does a much better job.
Nice job as usual guys and admittedly I've heard the Powernode in a high end HIFI shop of all places and yes it just sounded amazing ,with a pair of Sonus Faber bookshelves and a pair of Aeperion bookshelves .Both pairings sounded much higher end than the cost of the actual setups .
I agree! I picked up the Node 2 (2021 version) and the PowerNode 2 (2021 version) and they're staples in my systems. I will pick up another Node down the line and use it as a digital pre-amp with my Rotel amplifier. Basically do all volume control through the app. I love your reviews man! And your insights and point of views. They line up with my own and I am glad someone is speaking up and afraid to point out the misinformation that goes around and hocus pocus of sound magically improving due to break in or cables or what not.
So you can use a power amp with the node 2021, would that make it essentially a powermode with just better amplification? I’m looking at getting a powermode but would also consider getting a node with a separate two channel amp. My only concern is hdmi, my tv doesn’t have e-arc it’s old, and I have a nvidia shield I would need to get hdmi audio to the powermode and then someone get the video back to the tv. Right now I use a Denon Avr receiver with HEOS for music and it has many hdmi.
these bluesounds and the Sonos system both have the same problem for me in that they don't do anything without involving the app, and the speaker app kinda lives separately from my music apps, maybe i'm just kinda spoiled because my speakers just play whatever comes in either input, the apps put all their focus on making it easy to group speakers and move sound around, but that easiness wears thin when you constantly have to do it yourself, and can't configure the speakers to do things without help
Wireless connection to a Bluesound Sub+ is a great thing too for those who have cable management issues.
I would love the simplicity and convenience of the Powernode but I wonder if I would be better served with something like the Cambridge Audio AXR100 and the Powernode streamer only. Thanks for a great review as always, huge fan of the channel.
This falls in line with my thinking as well. I recently purchased the new Bluesound Node and have it paired with a separate integrated amplifier (the Technics SU-G700 to be exact). I personally like the flexibility of having a few more extra inputs than the Powernode offers. While I have no experience with it, the Cambridge is probably a great option to add to the Node. At the end of the day this would only add about $250 but I would guess it is worth it.
Would this pair well with KEF LS50 Meta? Will be used for both music and movies. For movies specifically I am very picky about hearing dialogue clearly, which I observe some receivers to seriously screw up.
I bought the Powernode to drive B&W 607 S2 speakers and ASW610 subwoofer., replacing an Arcam Uno Solo (which I did like very much).
Maybe I didn't tune it right, but the Powernode did not gel with the 607 speakers and subwoofer.
I replaced it with the Powernode Edge and it was a perfect match for the 607s.
I moved the Powernode to drive 4 x B&W AM1 external speakers and it was a perfect match. Drove them beautifully. Also switches to some in-ceiling speakers in the kitchen.
What I really like is that I can merge the Powernode and Powernode Edge so I can have the same music inside and out.
Very hghly recommended.
Works great with my 707 s2
How did you drive four AM-1’s…?
I have four of them but my Powernode is currently hooked up to just the two.
Hi, curious why you didn't like the Powernode on the B&Ws? We have B&W 704s and some 600s as you mentioned in your review. Thanks and love the channel!
yes same question here. the guy in the shop recommneded B and W 606 and the blue note so I was surprised (shocked?) to hear this
I have connected the new Node (not Powernode) to a Naim Uniti Atom (RCA). In this setup, with my ears, the sound from the new Bluesound is better then the sound from the internal streamer in the Atom. I’m streaming from Qobuz and Tidal. I find that very interesting.
These are such a cool concept. Better than a soundbar and does all the “cool stuff” a soundbar/streaming device does. But you get to use a really nice pair of speakers.
Oh, and it’s a much better looking system than a soundbar.
I’d LOVE to see this compared to Sonos Amp!
There is no comparison, the Bluesound is much better. I relegated my Sonos Amp to running my outdoor speakers.
@@badgerdms interesting! Thanks… been trying to decide between the 2 😎
@@stevenrobinson4884 Good luck! I just found the Bluesound brings out much more from my LS50s
If you do 75% TV and movie watching and 25% music (but value sound quality with music more) then thoughts on this and speakers vs the Sony HT-A9 and SA-SW5 Sub? I'm thinking about the Powernode and the Buchardt S400 MKII in particular but happy if you provide a different speaker recommendation.
Thanks 🙏 too Andrew and your vife. It is perfect 👍 I love this little box
You have to consider that it is 3 products in one, an amp, a dac and a streamer. The streamer/dac (Bluesound NODE is $600, so you are getting a a good amp for $350. That is cheap,. Btw, I just got a Powernode and paired it with a original pair of Rogers LS3/5a. I have no idea why anyone would want controls and displays on a product operated by a mobile phone,
I have not opened The Fives. Should I return them? I want simplicity with ARC and I already have passive speakers to work with. I basically just stream your videos, Netflix and some Apple Music.
All in one solution for me so far is the NAD M10 with dual sub outs and the BluOS operating system with ARC / eARC. Though I am running my M10 with Dali rubicon 2's with 2 REL subs (T7i's) that actually don't use the pre outs on M10 due to Rel's High Level Output connection (would like your thoughts on that connection as well actually)? Is it a good thing?
I did have the old Powernode but just found 60 watts was just not enough. I am curious though what amp you would pair a node with to get you more power than what the power node offers? To me that would be very interesting!
I think Bluesound competes well and beats Sonos in quality it can stream to its speakers! I am also now very curious about the Bluesound wireless speakers you spoke of since they own PSB as well. I have had some of the older model of Bluesound speakers (pulse Flex 2i) and enjoyed them but wish they could have just been able to do better with home theatre streaming.
Surprised that the 'Node drove the KLHs well. Not surprised they struggled with the B&Ws. Not surprised it worked fine with the rest of your speakers.
The Powernode did NOT struggle with the B&Ws.
@@KristiWright oops! Absolutely DON'T want to get crosswise with Kristi! Besides, my real interest here was the performance with the KLHs because they have similar design to my beloved EPI 100s and I could see paring the 'Nodes to the EPIs.
@@jarms40 Ain't no thing, Michael. :)
@@KristiWright phew! That's a relief!
would be great if you could get your hands on the Lyngdorf tdai 1200 for comparison
I had the Powernode 2i. Liked it at first, but compared it to my dad's Outlaw Audio receiver and found the Powernode's stereo image seriously lacking in depth.
Nice review - love your chats at the end!
I just bought an Yamaha R-N602. I just prefer heavier things I guess. They kind of bring more confidence :))
I'm split between the R-N602 and the Powernode! Are you liking your 602?
Would it sound better to go with the built in amp? Or go with the preamp model and get the emotiva amp?
I think that the lack of Chromecast built-in is a serious omission, and you didn't mention it at all. It's fine when it's missing from an AV receiver since those get (e)ARCed to a TV which most likely has Chromecast built-in, but in a stereo "all-in-one" streamer/amp, which might or might not really be connected to a TV (if only TVs had more than one (e)ARC ports), it's a big omission in my opinion. And since you really are sometimes nitpicking about stuff (which I love btw), not mentioning this is weird.
I also suggest you take in account the ability of a stereo amp to work in conjunction with an AV receiver for stereo sound in your stereo amp reviews, i.e. the ability to use the front speakers of a surround system connected to an AV receiver. The AV receiver needs to have front LF preouts obviously, but most do.
Speaking of which, any chance you can get a hold of an Arcam SA30? It's on my wish list for a while for an all-in-one stereo amp/streamer, with the key thing being that it can work in conjunction with an AV receiver in a surround setup, powering only the front two channels for two channel listening.
P.S. You are one of the reasons I'm a proud owner of a Yamaha RX-V6A and I love it, so thanks for that review :). It's paired with Klipsch RP600Ms for fronts and the reference Klipsch line for center, sub and surrounds. I feel that the RP600Ms can sound better with a dedicated quality stereo amplification, and I've seen a few comments online (maybe even including your own) that they react positively to higher quality electronics, which is why I'm considering a nice stereo amp to put between the Yamaha and the Klipsch for two channel listening.
Doesn't the Powernode also have eARC, so it should do what the receiver does regarding Chromecast?
It does, but my point is it won't necesseraly be hooked to a TV, unlike an AV receiver. I guess a lot of people already have AVRs hooked to their TVs and can't add this to the TV as well. It also might be located in another room where there is no TV at all, so having to have a TV hooked up to it to have chromecast capability is not really an option for some.
Oh I hope that Canadian tower review is the new Synchrony t600 series from PSB...;) Maybe? I saw some press back in April and then crickets. I use a pair of the previous Synchrony 1Bs and adore them. Until then I wait with bated breath!
Loved the video on this budget oriented new to hifi amp, but where’s your favorite phono preamp? You don’t have one listed in your Amazon reference gear set, and I’m looking for one. As of now I’m eyeing the u-turn preamp from your partnership video and the fluance pa10. Could I go wrong with either of these? Any other recommendations on phono preamps $120 and lower? A video including such a topic would be very helpful to a budding enthusiast.