Hi I’m just curious can anyone tell me the differences between Tongan ngatu and Samoan siapo please. It’s just because some of the taps my Samoan family use for performances look Tongan but they say they’re Samoan and when I go to my Tongan side I think the tapa is Samoan but they say it isn’t so now I can’t tell the difference.
I think maybe just in terms with design and so forth. Other than that I can’t say 🤷🏽♀️ All I know is that as Tongans - we are heavily continuing in the ngatu as the designs have grown vastly over the centuries and have evolved with so many various types of ngatu for what occasion, whom it’s for, and what colour to go with whatever fala, kato teu, etc. - so that being said we have more extensive patterns, meanings and stories told on each tapa and so forth as they probably do, but they just don’t do it as much as we do so they probably have only an obscure amount or had more but sadly lost over time. We may have vastly similar patterns but we may have different names and meanings for them as they would too. Maybe some parts of the ink used is slightly different. But unfortunately due to colonialism Samoa didn’t continue it as much as Tonga has, as Fiji (not sure how) but I know they have their own and continued just as much as we have also probably for their own reasons, not sure on that though. It’s the same with tatau. The practice was banished around 1839 as Samoa has continued the practice as pe’a.
@@leont5096 Yes that’s true. We know it’s predominantly Tongan but its not like we’re going to go and blast people to let them know that it is and be all like “well you can’t use that” coz that’s really ridiculous. it’s also understandable knowing since Samoa has been through a lot and yet we are all one family in that sense, I’ve seen more island nations than just Samoans always using Tongan ngatu, since we do it so much more. It’s just like Tongans using so many materials and even other ngatu and Fijian masi yet we make it our own. Just like if our neighbouring countries do the same with Tongan stuff and make it their own. It’s all part of the master craft thing. And that’s the way it should always be. But you will come across a few Karens and Susan’s of the pacific who think otherwise (I know since I’ve dealt with my fair share), but just keep thriving and going and doing your thing. Don’t worry about what the negative say
Brought to Ha'amoa by Tongan Tu'itonga FaleTonga(tau'olunga precioustop) celebrate with KieTonga and Hiapo Ancient Fulitaunga Taumafa Kava Ceremony Tonga has the most Lapita sites in all Polynesia Vanuatu Fisi Tongatapu even the oldest tatau instrument found in the Ancient Fortress Village of Pea Tongatapu 2700 years old 700BC made of human bones with all evidence in Tongatapu the birth place of Polynesia 😊
@Bronson Can you tell me what the 3 dots mean. I know its also a Fijian pattern called the Tusea but all these are forgotten by grandma. You give her a brush and a ngatu she'll do it by memory and creativity but she cant explain it
You say tapa is a Tongan word but all polynesian languages come from our common ancestry so tapa yes is a tongan word it is a word that belongs to all of polynesian
Well done Bronson! It is great that our younger generation are so interested and involved in continuing and learning our ancestral methods, such as this. Continue to do the great work you are doing. Thank you Coconet and Fresh for the informative piece. Looking forward to more stories regarding our Pacific Island cultural aspect and beloved, ancient methods.
Lol! You’re always going to get that one. That just comes in randomly boasting their nationalist/patriotic pride. Nothing wrong with that. But it had to be on a Tongan based video about Tapa. You just HAD to. And for what motive? Who knows and who cares. Simply just can’t handle themselves now can you…
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Great video! Very informative
Wow..I didnt know Tapa was a Tongan word till now....we also make Tapa in my Province in Papua New Guinea...Ofa Atu from PNG 🇹🇴🇵🇬
Do fijians do this?
No
YES, it's called MASI
Yes. I’m Tongan and I know they have the masi. And we love and use the masi also. I know at least 15 different patterns that it comes in.
Hi I’m just curious can anyone tell me the differences between Tongan ngatu and Samoan siapo please. It’s just because some of the taps my Samoan family use for performances look Tongan but they say they’re Samoan and when I go to my Tongan side I think the tapa is Samoan but they say it isn’t so now I can’t tell the difference.
honestly, we’re the same people so there’s so many similarities
I think maybe just in terms with design and so forth. Other than that I can’t say 🤷🏽♀️ All I know is that as Tongans - we are heavily continuing in the ngatu as the designs have grown vastly over the centuries and have evolved with so many various types of ngatu for what occasion, whom it’s for, and what colour to go with whatever fala, kato teu, etc. - so that being said we have more extensive patterns, meanings and stories told on each tapa and so forth as they probably do, but they just don’t do it as much as we do so they probably have only an obscure amount or had more but sadly lost over time. We may have vastly similar patterns but we may have different names and meanings for them as they would too. Maybe some parts of the ink used is slightly different. But unfortunately due to colonialism Samoa didn’t continue it as much as Tonga has, as Fiji (not sure how) but I know they have their own and continued just as much as we have also probably for their own reasons, not sure on that though. It’s the same with tatau. The practice was banished around 1839 as Samoa has continued the practice as pe’a.
Most samoan functions i see tongan ngatu being used
@@leont5096 Yes that’s true. We know it’s predominantly Tongan but its not like we’re going to go and blast people to let them know that it is and be all like “well you can’t use that” coz that’s really ridiculous. it’s also understandable knowing since Samoa has been through a lot and yet we are all one family in that sense, I’ve seen more island nations than just Samoans always using Tongan ngatu, since we do it so much more. It’s just like Tongans using so many materials and even other ngatu and Fijian masi yet we make it our own. Just like if our neighbouring countries do the same with Tongan stuff and make it their own. It’s all part of the master craft thing. And that’s the way it should always be. But you will come across a few Karens and Susan’s of the pacific who think otherwise (I know since I’ve dealt with my fair share), but just keep thriving and going and doing your thing. Don’t worry about what the negative say
Brought to Ha'amoa by Tongan Tu'itonga FaleTonga(tau'olunga precioustop) celebrate with KieTonga and Hiapo Ancient Fulitaunga Taumafa Kava Ceremony Tonga has the most Lapita sites in all Polynesia Vanuatu Fisi Tongatapu even the oldest tatau instrument found in the Ancient
Fortress Village of Pea Tongatapu 2700 years old 700BC made of human bones with all evidence in Tongatapu the birth place of Polynesia 😊
@Bronson Can you tell me what the 3 dots mean. I know its also a Fijian pattern called the Tusea but all these are forgotten by grandma. You give her a brush and a ngatu she'll do it by memory and creativity but she cant explain it
Im tongan and never really understood the meaning behind it, thank you for this video. Very informative❤
Beautiful....
LOVING THIS!
Love this!❤️
You say tapa is a Tongan word but all polynesian languages come from our common ancestry so tapa yes is a tongan word it is a word that belongs to all of polynesian
It’s nice to know the origins of a word though
what is my poly tutor doing on here??
Malo aupito cuz, fa'a talofa atu le aiga, the Pio's and the Aerenga-Seiuli clan.
Ima send my future wife to Tonga to learn the traditions .
Tapa is Cook island
Tapa in cook island is Tapa Li..
@@top5deadoralive746 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not the kukis Tryna claim 🤣🤣
@@top5deadoralive746 siana its Tapa Ri they don't use L
@@top5deadoralive746 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@top5deadoralive746.... I'm 2yrs late, but that was 💩 funny
Well done Bronson! It is great that our younger generation are so interested and involved in continuing and learning our ancestral methods, such as this. Continue to do the great work you are doing. Thank you Coconet and Fresh for the informative piece. Looking forward to more stories regarding our Pacific Island cultural aspect and beloved, ancient methods.
Mr seiuli 😱😱😱
Malo Bronson :D xx
Aueee saiou Bronnie
Samoa 🇼🇸 685
No
Lol! You’re always going to get that one. That just comes in randomly boasting their nationalist/patriotic pride. Nothing wrong with that. But it had to be on a Tongan based video about Tapa. You just HAD to. And for what motive? Who knows and who cares. Simply just can’t handle themselves now can you…